@@zefflepopZ Have you maybe thought that they don't want arguably the most beloved character in the series to be a bullshit stance mix up monster like every other dlc?
So far, all of the DLC characters in Tekken 8 are 50/50 stance mix-up based with Install mechanics and domain expansion Rage Arts. I was hoping Heihachi would break the mold. He really doesn't need to be stance-based.
That Token system where he goes into ultimate state with ridiculous frames on everything (which is basically guaranteed on round 3) really feels like DLC powercreep.
@@djw_tekken8490 everytime he pops heat, he gains a token, if Heihachi survive to third round, he has it. Dont tell me there are people who dont use heat. Its locked into the key moves, heat is guaranteed to pop. At three tokens Hei player can use the ultimate mode, which on activation it gives him hyperarmor and enemy has to block it (TMM said himself). So there almost no way to prevent it, or atleast its so hard to prevent it, that it makes it guaranteed. And you need add to the fact, that Hei player will always want to go into ultimate mode, thus work for it from the start of the match, because then he gets ridiculous frames and new moves, his damage is not recoverable, thus he gains big advantage to win the round.
I haven't seen this said so far, but I think his new voice actor is great. It's huge shoes to fill performing a character that's been around as long as Heihachi, and dude pulls it off with aplomb.
@@Manley156 That doesn't change the fact that there's a big difference between how he historically played and what they are trying to do with him now. Especially when it seems like the every single DLC we got this season has been reliant on stances and a install
@@NoobyNick0710he looks like he's 100kg not 88. With this weight/height ratio you can't have such big shoulders and arms. But yeah, it's just a game so doesn't really matter at this point.
@@stanislavchugunov Arnold was about 100KG at the 1975 Olympia at 6'2, so 5'11 195 sounds right for Heihachi, let's assume hes in contest condition. But yeah the Japanese made these stats they don't exactly have familiarity with muscle weight (a la Dragon Ball - i can tell they somewhat tried for Tekken but Jin would be way heavier)
Like the stance he did after hitting the RA before transitioning to domain expansion, that's literally THE old Raijin from T5/6 Old Raijin unblockable is Rai 2, btw.
People talking about his animation update and other stuff. But no one noticed he no longer has white hair ? Did Heihachi got younger from that lava spa treatment ?!
While most people dislike the fact Heihachi is getting stances, as someone that has been playing Tekken for half my life, I think it could be a good thing. I like the addition of new mechanics and tools for a character who has been there for awhile is a good thing, and in Heihachi's case, with how epic his death was in T7, if he aint broken and an actual menace for the first month of his release then I'm going to throw hands with Harada.
A lot lf these comments did not age well lol he's not a 50/50 char at all, nore does his gameplan even really revolve around them. You aren't forced into stance like kidia or reina are, he akways has the option not to enter stance. Imma trust a competent, high-level player on this one and acknowledge that heihachi is actually a very defensive char all about punishes and then capitalising on those punishes with some good offense(that isn't actually locked behind his stances whatsoever) Most definitely not mixup orient stace options tho. Shit, feng wei has more mix in stace lol heihachi also is still very high execution and still a mids dispenser. T8 is not a poke and move game like t7, and they did a good job giving heihachi an identity in this game that still feels like him since his keep-out game had no chance of making it into the game. This version looks and feels great
Honestly it is good that heihachi is back but I think this time he should have really died . How many times will Bandai Namco keep adding him like come on at least they should have now let the old man rest once and for all . His voice actor is ok but still , my take though that he didn't needed to be added though .
My theory is that they quickly developed Heihachi at the last minute when the DLC characters for season 1 dlc got leaked back then and got mixed responses from the community. I'd really believe Fahk and Marduk were going to be the last two DLCs for this year but they chickened out due to the reception lol
For me the voice is kinda meh.... But on a good note.. after years of looking I finally got my hands on and ordered the LC T7 figure... I hope it'll go nice with my heihachi-x-kazuya figure and the t8 jin one. Keep up the nice vids Sensei 🗣🔥
Its feels like Kazuya is the only mishima that play like classic and have no stance transition. Also personally im sad that reversal is heat only like reina. And qcf grab and uf 3,4 being stance only. Also i think bb 3+4 also heat only.
@@jordanbass705nobody complained when they did it for Akuma tho. I get it, but tekken isn’t tekken without Heihachi. I think he should’ve been added later if anything.
@@bigbadboof9282 right because tekken wouldn’t be the same without heihachi and I just got through seeing his interaction video with his daughter Reina heihachi is going to use his daughter the same way he did kazuya and jin
@@jordanbass705 I wouldn’t say use cuz the dialogue implies she’s willing. But it is interesting now, finally an heir that wishes to aid Heihachi in his plans.
@@bigbadboof9282 yes I’m interest to see what heihachi character development for tekken 8 that’s all we gotta do and also I’m wondering why the old characters from the previous tekken games underrated characters like Bruce Irvin baek doo San kunmitsu and Forrest law Roger Sr and Roger Jr ganryu haven’t make a return in tekken 8 included angel?
I waited for one of my mains to make an appearance in T8, but honestly I'm disappointed. Not a fan of the mix up heavy game design that can now be found in Heihachi. Heihachi had those impactful hits without long strings and stances. I'll try him out for sure, but at this point I'd wish there was a T7 version with improved loading times. Then I would gladly keep playing T7.
@@hagriddy8 but after all the new powerful moves he has gotten like a i15 launchers both from neutral and while standing that are not electric, PEWGF, guard breaks and inescapable throws, forced 50/50 from ground stomp, -10 hellsweep when in a certain state, armored stance, and most of his new moves are literally plus 2-6. Yes I think it evens it out so it’s fine really.
@@YOHSiRIS they could keep all that new lame stuff. i understand, new game, new mechanics should be implemented and so on and so forth, but damn man i miss the simplicity of his moves, like kaz. omen is a badass og move
Another character ruined by this fucking stance and install BS, if we wanted that bullshit, we would've played reina lidia etc. you had one goddamn job Bamco.. One goddamn Job
The Tekken community: "Reina? Electric? Stance heavy? What a breath of fresh air" And now Heihachi shows up, and people are criticizing that one stance. Brooo
Harada is completely successfully fool his fans by bringing back Fxxking Heihachi to life, first everybody was mad at harada's lied, now everybody said Heihachi is toooo cool, story writer can be that terrible because of the people like u keeps supporting this sxxt
At least it was better than T7's rage art... I'm sorry but that one for him to me was the lamest one i've ever seen and i've expected more from Heihachi, but here, to me his new rage art brought out that extra 'oomph' for and what i had expected from him, a beast
His animations looks cool but not a fan of this stance / install playstyle they have gone for with every dlc character so far
They have been adding more and more 2d mechanics
@@IAMOP they're trying to pull the 2D players into 3D
@@IAMOP Murray’s vision bro. Next character will have dash attack cancels and a weapon
classic tekken players complain about every little thing
@@zefflepopZ Have you maybe thought that they don't want arguably the most beloved character in the series to be a bullshit stance mix up monster like every other dlc?
01:56 I can't believe this move got buffed
Nah, they just made Jin late with his punish. It's still -16 as we saw on Tekken Talk.
Did you see the 24 min video going over his complete moveset?
@@JetaniumThe Korean one?
@@FahmiZFXI don’t think Jin can punish -16 with demon paw though.
@@FahmiZFX bruh thats like lying to us in the vid
They told me Reina was the Mishima version of Lidia but it turns out that was Heihachi.
This comment didn't age well at all.
@@DBTHEPLUG Good lol
What doesn't kill you, definitely makes you stronger! ⚡️💪🏼
So far, all of the DLC characters in Tekken 8 are 50/50 stance mix-up based with Install mechanics and domain expansion Rage Arts. I was hoping Heihachi would break the mold. He really doesn't need to be stance-based.
That Token system where he goes into ultimate state with ridiculous frames on everything (which is basically guaranteed on round 3) really feels like DLC powercreep.
@@YoungSweezy not guaranteed
@@djw_tekken8490 everytime he pops heat, he gains a token, if Heihachi survive to third round, he has it. Dont tell me there are people who dont use heat. Its locked into the key moves, heat is guaranteed to pop. At three tokens Hei player can use the ultimate mode, which on activation it gives him hyperarmor and enemy has to block it (TMM said himself). So there almost no way to prevent it, or atleast its so hard to prevent it, that it makes it guaranteed. And you need add to the fact, that Hei player will always want to go into ultimate mode, thus work for it from the start of the match, because then he gets ridiculous frames and new moves, his damage is not recoverable, thus he gains big advantage to win the round.
Ngl I was thinking about buying hei but then saw the stances and just that turned me away
What so bad with domain expansion rage arts? Better than tekken 7 throw enemy in the air and then hit them once rage arts
13f Electric Finally Old Man😂
I was checking the tekken talk, looks like the stance electric is mid lol
What About Old Man WS2🤔
@@IAMOPit uses up tornado and is minus on block so it’s completely fine
Stance electric is bullshit. They ger inspired by Reina gameplay instead Heihachi wtf
@@thrueriusit’s -10 and auto tornadoes it’s completely fine
The Mishima Family war isn't over yet.
I haven't seen this said so far, but I think his new voice actor is great. It's huge shoes to fill performing a character that's been around as long as Heihachi, and dude pulls it off with aplomb.
Aplomb. There's my vocab word of the day.
Did they really have to make him such a stance based character when we already have Reina???
And Lidia, Xiaoyu, Lee, Hwo, Jin, Lars, Yoshi, steve, feng, Alissa... Oh wait... Like the whole cast except bears. Bamco really on that stance grind
@@Manley156 That doesn't change the fact that there's a big difference between how he historically played and what they are trying to do with him now. Especially when it seems like the every single DLC we got this season has been reliant on stances and a install
@@Manley156lol what do you mean? Even bears have stances lol
@@Manley156but none of them have had install stance like eddie and lidia and now heihachi, no? You're missing the point broski
@@Manley156 bears have stance too
idk why but he is so much bulkier if that is the word, almost considered big boy here
88kg at 179 compared to kazuya's 85kg at 181 - 'hit the weight room son'
@@NoobyNick0710and he is still 5’10 1/2 since tekken 3 tekken 1 and 2 he was 5’11
it might be his baggy outfit
@@NoobyNick0710he looks like he's 100kg not 88. With this weight/height ratio you can't have such big shoulders and arms. But yeah, it's just a game so doesn't really matter at this point.
@@stanislavchugunov Arnold was about 100KG at the 1975 Olympia at 6'2, so 5'11 195 sounds right for Heihachi, let's assume hes in contest condition. But yeah the Japanese made these stats they don't exactly have familiarity with muscle weight (a la Dragon Ball - i can tell they somewhat tried for Tekken but Jin would be way heavier)
I will miss the T7 voice, his grunts/attack noises were a lot better in T7, RIP
Yeah he was my favorite voice outside of Tekken 2's ERRRRIIIIIYEAH!
RIP :(
From t4 to t6 he had the best voice but the voice actor died and same with t7's heihachi voice actor
@@chocs7214 Daisuke Gori started in Tekken 3 actually =)
@@VADtoys oh , didn't knew that
What is the music in the bg the remix version is distinct and electrifying.
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@@preBLANK tekken 2 kazuya theme remix
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Btw, his new Rage Art is basically a souped up version of his Rajin 1+2 unblockable, lol
Like the stance he did after hitting the RA before transitioning to domain expansion, that's literally THE old Raijin from T5/6
Old Raijin unblockable is Rai 2, btw.
I think he looks badass. They revamped a lot of his animations. Haters can get thrown into a volcano.
Doesnt matter, volcano doesnt kill apparently
@@Waltersop Volcano doesn't kill him but you be a dead meat
At one point this guy must have had some relationships with Paul, his new WS launcher looks just like Paul’s LOL.
Nice touch by adding the best remix of Emotionless Passion to the video
at this point this game is just stance pachinko
@@dudevinci people actually still consuming this crap.
Guess the fighting game community and tekken fans will take anything.
3:12 😂😂😂, How he slaps his son on the butt
This grandpa is younger than 67% of all the 20 year olds in this world
2:47 heihachi went super saiyan
Season 1 isn't even over and we're already getting Heihachi as a playable DLC character this early.
i13 EWGF...he can PEWGF now 😂. Heihachi is looking crazy...very crazy 😭...
And 15 frame ws launch
@@AfroKing. Yep!
Told you he'll be boring
@@Jabermania Shut up hater
@@Jabermania keep crying loser
I saw this guy at the premiere and I was so confused because of the new 2 stances
as a jun player i will be mashing kan kan at every stance change in hopes to hit a counter 😅
or parry 😂
He is like Lidia rework
maybe his new stance fighting mechanics have something to do with his resurrection story in this game
People talking about his animation update and other stuff. But no one noticed he no longer has white hair ? Did Heihachi got younger from that lava spa treatment ?!
While most people dislike the fact Heihachi is getting stances, as someone that has been playing Tekken for half my life, I think it could be a good thing. I like the addition of new mechanics and tools for a character who has been there for awhile is a good thing, and in Heihachi's case, with how epic his death was in T7, if he aint broken and an actual menace for the first month of his release then I'm going to throw hands with Harada.
"yall got any fun"
"we got stance mixups"
" "
He just looks SO good!
Thank goodness the face of Tekken is back it's like having Star Wars without Darth Vader.
My guess was right that they'd make his lightning orange to resemble the volcano
Isn't his lightning blue and red?
@@Mateoski97 It looks mainly orange to me and sometimes has some blue mixed in
What are people talking about with 13f electric? Cuz all I see is twin pistons, which is still busted combined with the oldschool hellsweep
Simple, he can pewgf like Kazuya and Reina (Skips the down input and goes for
F,n,df+2)
A lot lf these comments did not age well lol he's not a 50/50 char at all, nore does his gameplan even really revolve around them. You aren't forced into stance like kidia or reina are, he akways has the option not to enter stance. Imma trust a competent, high-level player on this one and acknowledge that heihachi is actually a very defensive char all about punishes and then capitalising on those punishes with some good offense(that isn't actually locked behind his stances whatsoever) Most definitely not mixup orient stace options tho. Shit, feng wei has more mix in stace lol heihachi also is still very high execution and still a mids dispenser. T8 is not a poke and move game like t7, and they did a good job giving heihachi an identity in this game that still feels like him since his keep-out game had no chance of making it into the game. This version looks and feels great
That last bit with Kid Kazuya felt extra and vindictive.
Isn't anyone gonna talk about how he uses some of Jin's movesets whilst on a different stance?
what is the remix of the song called?
Tekken 2 kazuya theme remix
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@@IAMOP thanks bro, keep up the great content 🔥👍
@@IAMOP thx
Is it just me or is he the only one that retain his rage drive move at the moment?
The power of Lava turns Heihachi's facial hair into Grey.
He looks amazing but why use a Kazuya theme remix when there's plenty for Heihachi our there ?
Tekken 7 was better.
Tekken 7 ewgf, was better.
Tekken 7 heihachi, was better.
Can you do a reina heihachi comparison but with tekken 8 heihachi
Honestly it is good that heihachi is back but I think this time he should have really died . How many times will Bandai Namco keep adding him like come on at least they should have now let the old man rest once and for all . His voice actor is ok but still , my take though that he didn't needed to be added though .
My theory is that they quickly developed Heihachi at the last minute when the DLC characters for season 1 dlc got leaked back then and got mixed responses from the community. I'd really believe Fahk and Marduk were going to be the last two DLCs for this year but they chickened out due to the reception lol
@@maskidlenan hes also in the story mode, that takes years to make
they have changed the dynamics of the character now it resemble akuma or some other street fighter freak
The stances makes him look like a real DLC and not the Heihachi of old
And they say lava is not good for your skin.
For me the voice is kinda meh....
But on a good note.. after years of looking I finally got my hands on and ordered the LC T7 figure... I hope it'll go nice with my heihachi-x-kazuya figure and the t8 jin one.
Keep up the nice vids Sensei 🗣🔥
Old VA has passed away, this is a different VA :(
Its feels like Kazuya is the only mishima that play like classic and have no stance transition.
Also personally im sad that reversal is heat only like reina. And qcf grab and uf 3,4 being stance only.
Also i think bb 3+4 also heat only.
I will hate Heihachi more than ever now.
I’m like he just died in tekken 7 their was no real reason for them to bring back heihachi
@@jordanbass705nobody complained when they did it for Akuma tho. I get it, but tekken isn’t tekken without Heihachi. I think he should’ve been added later if anything.
@@bigbadboof9282 right because tekken wouldn’t be the same without heihachi and I just got through seeing his interaction video with his daughter Reina heihachi is going to use his daughter the same way he did kazuya and jin
@@jordanbass705 I wouldn’t say use cuz the dialogue implies she’s willing. But it is interesting now, finally an heir that wishes to aid Heihachi in his plans.
@@bigbadboof9282 yes I’m interest to see what heihachi character development for tekken 8 that’s all we gotta do and also I’m wondering why the old characters from the previous tekken games underrated characters like Bruce Irvin baek doo San kunmitsu and Forrest law Roger Sr and Roger Jr ganryu haven’t make a return in tekken 8 included angel?
I waited for one of my mains to make an appearance in T8, but honestly I'm disappointed. Not a fan of the mix up heavy game design that can now be found in Heihachi. Heihachi had those impactful hits without long strings and stances.
I'll try him out for sure, but at this point I'd wish there was a T7 version with improved loading times. Then I would gladly keep playing T7.
MY GOAT MY GOOOOAAATTT
What ost do u use?
Tekken 2 kazuya theme remix
Question: is the omen still there and if so does it combo?
they haven't shown it in the trailer, but we should be getting the movelist soon
The main man swe said it doesn’t combo just knockdown I think
@@hagriddy8 that is super gay
@@hagriddy8 but after all the new powerful moves he has gotten like a i15 launchers both from neutral and while standing that are not electric, PEWGF, guard breaks and inescapable throws, forced 50/50 from ground stomp, -10 hellsweep when in a certain state, armored stance, and most of his new moves are literally plus 2-6. Yes I think it evens it out so it’s fine really.
@@YOHSiRIS
they could keep all that new lame stuff. i understand, new game, new mechanics should be implemented and so on and so forth, but damn man i miss the simplicity of his moves, like kaz. omen is a badass og move
The best dlc in the moment!
Lidia + lars = new heihachi
平八「ひねり潰してくれるわ！」
ギラ「ひねり潰してくれるわ！」
Well, that was quick!
Uppercuts son at the end lol
They botched his head. He looks like Alien now. Wtf are the animators doing? Feng Wei has big head and Steve Fox looks chubby
What is the music? I want it!
Tekken 2 kazuya theme remix
@@IAMOP thanks
3:15 bro that's funny 🤣
I wanna hope that Jin just sucks at punishment because I don't want a safe ff2.
Become younger, it seems his ogre bloodline pump up 🤣
Why Lili has no ballerina stance ?
background music?
Tekken 2 Kazuya theme remix
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Tekken papa is back😂
0:19 kinda looks like a Kazumi extension from her uf34 string
People say his ogtf doesnt launch is it true
Yea seems to be so, it launches very far
Heat burst might work but we have to wait to test
So hei gets a useful install but lidia doesn't? 😐
Idk man...
No omen :(
New heihachi is good
nah that's too op
nerf devil jin
Omen doesn't launch :'(
Tekkens Akuma.
Another character ruined by this fucking stance and install BS, if we wanted that bullshit, we would've played reina lidia etc. you had one goddamn job Bamco.. One goddamn Job
Why can't they just let him stay dead?
I've seen enough. Nerf Devil Jin
The worst sin t8 had done is make electrica sound and feel not impactful
"behing"
damn I invented a new word
yes but... why he looks 20 years younger than T7...??😑 I really hate this not thinking accuracy...
I see Lidia stance..
definitely gives the feel he incorporated some of the moves he taught Reina.
The Tekken community: "Reina? Electric? Stance heavy? What a breath of fresh air" And now Heihachi shows up, and people are criticizing that one stance. Brooo
Hei doesn't need to be a stance character, that's why Reina is a breath of fresh air in the first place.
Harada is completely successfully fool his fans by bringing back Fxxking Heihachi to life, first everybody was mad at harada's lied, now everybody said Heihachi is toooo cool, story writer can be that terrible because of the people like u keeps supporting this sxxt
Not Heihachi, this is Reina 2.0
He sounds how he did back in T6!
Cant believe they gave him these lidia like stances, thats shit
The only fun Mishima. Great to see him back lmao
In T7 the punches had much more power to it. i feel like this is also too cartoonish.
oh and the stances is eww brada
New Heihachi no omen?
Tekken 8 clearly went for the cartoony Sf x Tekken aesthetics just in 3D (if that makes sense). They look plasticky but I guess that is by design.
his rage art kinda boring
kinda lame that it ends with just a punch
but the build was really cool
At least it was better than T7's rage art... I'm sorry but that one for him to me was the lamest one i've ever seen and i've expected more from Heihachi, but here, to me his new rage art brought out that extra 'oomph' for and what i had expected from him, a beast
He looks fat in tekken 8.