I see you have your veldskoens on today. We used to all wear those at boarding school in southern Tanganyika - mainly because you never had to polish them - unlike black leather shoes which got very dusty, quickly. Your accent takes me back there - as all the Europeans spoke in a similar way, perhaps a slightly milder version, irrespective of where in Europe their parents had come from.
Sekuru thanks for the videos. I am currently reading "A century of wrong" by F. W. Reitz which was brought to my attention after reading books authored by Wilbur Smith. This is how I stumbled upon your channel after googling "the Jameson Raid".
As with anything, they used it to their advantage. They have always found useful idiots to do their bidding for them, to simply discard like squeezed out oranges afterwards.
Love listening to your stories on history. You have a gift of personalising history thus making it so much more interesting. As a half boer/half English Rhodesian, my research on this topic has cast my sympathies firmly with the boers. Rhodes was an agent of the powerful Rothschild bankers and his role was to acquire the gold mines and a takeover of the nation was necessary for that purpose. The Uitlanders were the excuse (they always need one, today 'climate change' is their excuse to create a World Dictatorship which King Charles and the WEF call "The Great Reset" ie global communism on steroids).
I don't think I can express what it means to me to have your best man's great grandfather's march played over my name in the closing credits. It sounds a bit silly typed out like that, but it's those kinds of personal links tied to real human achievements that define the spirit that turned both of our countries from subsistance wilderness to first world places to live. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait for the rest of the story on the Jameson Raid!
I’m super glad to hear that your channel has seen some success. You most definitely deserve it. You are an incredible story teller with such a unique experience and insight. Please do not ever feel like you waffle on too much or anything like that. I love hearing your stories just as they are. Love and respect from Australia. Also I’d love to hear more about the history of the country and your perspectives after the bush war. Also I’d love to hear more about life in South Africa and why you live there now.
Great to hear from you again Martin, my personal knowledge of Southern African history is pretty good , but this latest episode on The Jameson Raid has me absolutely intrigued , can't wait for part 2. God bless .
Gold never corrupts, people do that, and money, either too little or too much has the propensity of making monsters of mankind. Gold is held to blame as a futile excuse..So it was in ancient Pharohic Egypt, so it was on the gold-belts on the Afrikaner Republic at that time, and remains so. History gives us chances that few listen to or heed. These history lessons of yours are most excellent Martin, if I may say. Well worth looking forward to. Well worth heeding, too.
glad that you are back to posting and I love the new settling, even if it just a one off. Jameson and rhodes are often made out to be villains for conducting this raid but as I suspected the truth is a little more complex and not just black and white.
Imagine reaching the end of a rainbow and instead of finding your pot of gold, there is a shanty town with horse manure everywhere, and everybody either at their claim, the bar or a brothel.
Happy to see a new upload, but I must say I'm not convinced in the slightest that Boers were to blame for the raid. 54 deaths per 1000 people is high, but Johannesburg was only founded 9 years earlier and hastily built. The death rate in Glasgow in 1901 was 21 per 1000. And I don't think it's unreasonable to be weary of a huge number of migrant miners. If you voluntarily move to another country to make money you are a guest. Maybe the Boer government should have better addressed the needs of the migrants, but to launch a revolution and war over this? Jameson himself obviously didn't care about the condition of the Uitlanders if he launched the raid without their support and accidently on purpose left before Rhodes could say no. And of course all this lead to more war and suffering. 48,000 people died in British concentration camps during the Anglo-Boer war. The death rate in the camps got as high as 344 per 1000.
Check your facts. Only 56,000 pows were taken during the war. Most were held overseas and returned at the end of the war. You got bad information from your source.
@@johnkidd1226 They weren't POWs. They were families. Just like how Japanese people put in internment camps in the US during WWII were not POWs. Most of the people who died in the British concentration camps were children.
Well here we see why SA left Rhodesia swinging in the wind for most of the Bush War. The arrogance we hear is staggering. He recounts the hubris of Rhodes, Jameson, etc; their failure to take advice; Jameson's determination to go ahead and his untimatum to his own commander; then calmly asserts that blame must be directed solely at the Boers. I can imagine SA thinking, "those Rhodesians say they are fighting to preserve their way of life. Good luck to them."
assisted in Mozambique and in Rhodesia. PW had the SANDF on standby when Mugabe was elected, however the order to somehow never came. The fall of Rhodesia was a terrible loss
"Well here we see why SA left Rhodesia swinging in the wind for most of the Bush War. " Which bush war was that Mike? Certainly not the bush war leading up to independence for Zim. How do you think Rhodesia managed to get the supplies - and finance - for that war? If you know anything, you will know that the whole Southern African theatre only changed after a few visits from Kissinger (and Owen who tagged along) which led to not only a change in Rhodesia but also to a fundamental change in SA.
I have some old photo's from 1980 Zim including a photo of the painting of UDI 11.11.64. The painter that was commissioned to do the painting had it in her possession 1981. If found by any good commrade at the time it would have been destroyed. I'd like to send you a copy of the painting but how ? Steve Wilson Perth Australia.
So basically, the Uitlanders were the original economic migrants. It's fascinating how this ball got rolling. I heard it is even beginning to reach the Britain now too.
We learned of the Jameson Raid at school in South Africa, but the reasons for the Uitlanders distress was glossed over by saying they wanted representation and citizenship with its accompanying civil rights. The Boers were right to be scared of giving the Uitlanders voting rights, as they feared the breakdown of their agrarian Christian philosophy. My Great-grandfather George Annandale (of Scots decent) fought with his Kommando against the Jameson Raiders.
The Lion and the Tusk. I have read Alexandra Fuller's books on her childhood, also Peter Godwin's books ... Dr David Owen couldn't find it in himself to condemn the Viscount Hunyani atrocity. I do it for him on behalf of Britain, just as many many Brits and Irish lent à hand to their kith and kin in Southern Africa when it counted. Vanodada kuva nazvo.
Sorry but it appears to me that Jameson tought he had a great plan and a perfect opportunity to bring a new territory under the crown, gain fame and an rank for himself and go down in history. An opportunity to take the Boers by surprise and a good enough excuse to invade might never come back. The pitiful working conditions were not rare, if you look at the life expectancy of the miners in Newcastle UK, it was not much better than in south Africa, not to mention the terrible condition of the Irish people. Saying that the Jameson raid was done for the helping the English speaking miners is about as true as Hitler invading Poland to protect German speakers in the Danzig corridor from expulsion. In both cases those were likely a factor in the decision, but definitely not the deciding factors. The possibility to take over the mines and the great wealth they brought, as well as the desire to gain fame & rank and the possibility to weaken the Boers far outstripped any desire to help American and German miners.
A very British take on the lead up to the Raid; there is of course a second side to every coin, and so too here. Britain arrived on the shores of South Africa in the late 1700s with a very heavy stick and stole Southern Africa from the Boers. Britain imposed fairly draconian laws to benefit the British uitlanders and this resulted in huge resentment on the part of the Boers. The Boer resentment against the British led to the Great Trek of 1835 - 40 and the eventual establishment of the two Boer republics - OFS and Transvaal. When gold was discovered on the Rand (Transvaal) and diamonds at Kimberly (OFS), Britain, in its usual heavy-handed manner, tore up the treaties it had made with the Boers and put the Republics under British control - the result - the first Anglo-Boer War. Britain hugely underestimated the Boers and got a thorough snot-klap from them and promptly sued for peace. But British duplicity can be seen at its finest and the "peace" was nothing more than breathing space so Britain could re-arm and re-attack - second Anglo-Boer War. When you balance the British view given in the video with the reality of the bigger picture, it changes the uitlander's sob-story somewhat. I am from a divided family - half were Boers and half were British and the British half put all the blame on the Boers and the Boer half detest the British for their lying, duplicitous nature. Rhodes was a scoundrel who would say and do anything to make the world British - he claimed he thanked God daily for three things - 1. He was white; 2. He was a man; 3. He was born British. It was his stated desire to give all people a hope of becoming No.3. His aim - to extend the empire from Cape to Cairo and the Boers were a damned inconvenience to his objective.
I love your stories. But it is a difference of a point of view. Your stories paint the British is a good light. My point of view are of people who are looking to make money for the crown in the process they will use any evil to destroy a country. Well history is history but I do not see the Brits in such a innocent light
Your bias is showing. The Brits provided modern infrastructure in all their colonies and granted independence to most without strife. They gave a much better way of life than many of the other colonial powers and certainly better than the Marxist regimes that succeeded them in many cases. Evil is too strong a word when you consider what the people suffered before and after British colonial rule.
@@johnkidd1226 yes some good came of it, that was not my statement. But they were no angels and many people died due to their actions. To make profit for the crown. What is your take on concentration camps in South Africa being the insperation to events in WW 2?
@@jacquesdutoit5637 Concentration camps were not new to Europe nor even to S. Africa in 1900. They were used around the world in times of unrest so trying to blame Britian for spawning Hitler's excesses is a weak and ignorant argument.
The Uitlanders were free to leave the Transvaal if they were so unhappy. Remember this was a Boer Republic and was fought for and paid for dearly by the Boers in lives and treasure. And I do not appreciate your denigrating remarks of President Paul Kruger.
"The Uitlanders were free to leave the Transvaal if they were so unhappy." Ya, Willem if only Life was as black and white as depicted by that remark. Totally understand that it cannot be good for the population of foreigners to exceed the number of Boers. I think the point is more about people coming to a 'new' country to work with the expectation of being treated in a fair and civilised manner. If there is work and a possibility of doing exceptionally well, one would put up with a lot of hardships but, conversely, in a mature society a 'win-win' situation is always the best way forward in the long run. It seems President Kruger came to a similar conclusion.
Interesting how after the Second World War when the Boer Nationalist Party took power they almost reverted to the same anti attitude to any one who did not speak Afrikaans as a home language. For example all the civil service exams were only in Afrikaans and I was told if you had a English speaking wife even if you spoke Afrikaans you would lose your job.
Some Afrikaners were very biased against the British but it worked both ways. In Rhodesia, for instance, Afrikaners faced disdain and were the butt of van der Merwe jokes which highlighted the supposed stupidity of Afrikaners.
Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife Sophie were shot to death by a Bosnian Serb nationalist during an official visit to the Bosnian capital of Sarajevo on June 28, 1914. The killings sparked a chain of events that led to the outbreak of World War I by early August.
Most of us in America have never heard anything about Southern African history. Thank you for your insight. We look forward to more content.
If I didn’t know better I would think that you lived and experienced this history first hand. Great job 👏
I see you have your veldskoens on today. We used to all wear those at boarding school in southern Tanganyika - mainly because you never had to polish them - unlike black leather shoes which got very dusty, quickly. Your accent takes me back there - as all the Europeans spoke in a similar way, perhaps a slightly milder version, irrespective of where in Europe their parents had come from.
Certainly looking forward the next REAL history lesson.
I love your channel good Sir! As a fellow Rhodesian transplant I laud your record of history and events and pray you keep telling your stories.
Sekuru thanks for the videos.
I am currently reading "A century of wrong" by F. W. Reitz which was brought to my attention after reading books authored by Wilbur Smith. This is how I stumbled upon your channel after googling "the Jameson Raid".
Hope you’re doing alright Martin. UA-cam is boring without you!
Thanks
Shit day in work, this has turned things around:) great to see you again my freind :)
Thank you Martin! I have never heard about this bit of history that preludes the boer wars.
Brilliant as always. With so much changing of history these days, by contrast you bring the past to life!
What did the wealthy mines do about the bad conditions in JHB? Including Rhodes?
As with anything, they used it to their advantage. They have always found useful idiots to do their bidding for them, to simply discard like squeezed out oranges afterwards.
Love listening to your stories on history. You have a gift of personalising history thus making it so much more interesting. As a half boer/half English Rhodesian, my research on this topic has cast my sympathies firmly with the boers. Rhodes was an agent of the powerful Rothschild bankers and his role was to acquire the gold mines and a takeover of the nation was necessary for that purpose. The Uitlanders were the excuse (they always need one, today 'climate change' is their excuse to create a World Dictatorship which King Charles and the WEF call "The Great Reset" ie global communism on steroids).
thank you for what you are doing. i very much enjoy your way of telling a story.
Another great video
Well done 👏
I don't think I can express what it means to me to have your best man's great grandfather's march played over my name in the closing credits. It sounds a bit silly typed out like that, but it's those kinds of personal links tied to real human achievements that define the spirit that turned both of our countries from subsistance wilderness to first world places to live. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait for the rest of the story on the Jameson Raid!
Great to see you back Martin!
I’m super glad to hear that your channel has seen some success. You most definitely deserve it. You are an incredible story teller with such a unique experience and insight. Please do not ever feel like you waffle on too much or anything like that. I love hearing your stories just as they are. Love and respect from Australia.
Also I’d love to hear more about the history of the country and your perspectives after the bush war. Also I’d love to hear more about life in South Africa and why you live there now.
Love your uploads please keep it up
So glad to receive this new video alert.
So good to hear from you again
Brilliant, as always. Great orator and so concise and articulate. Thank you.
🙋🙋 greetings from Germany 👍😎 the bures use Mauser rifles right?....and they were very good with that rifles as I read in the books....
Thanks!
A very welcome return and increase in quality, very much worth the wait.
Really enjoyed hearing your stories all the way here in Ireland and great to hear that your work project is progressing nicely
Thanks! O7
Hey a new upload. Thanks!
Great to hear from you again Martin, my personal knowledge of Southern African history is pretty good , but this latest episode on The Jameson Raid has me absolutely intrigued , can't wait for part 2.
God bless .
Top man. Great history teller.
I'm always very happy to see you have uploaded a new video you are very good at what you do
Gold never corrupts, people do that, and money, either too little or too much has the propensity of making monsters of mankind. Gold is held to blame as a futile excuse..So it was in ancient Pharohic Egypt, so it was on the gold-belts on the Afrikaner Republic at that time, and remains so. History gives us chances that few listen to or heed. These history lessons of yours are most excellent Martin, if I may say. Well worth looking forward to. Well worth heeding, too.
glad that you are back to posting and I love the new settling, even if it just a one off. Jameson and rhodes are often made out to be villains for conducting this raid but as I suspected the truth is a little more complex and not just black and white.
I hope the history of the boers and the dutch in southern Africa are never forgotten, and long live the Afrikaaner nation.
Interesting, thanks.
Imagine reaching the end of a rainbow and instead of finding your pot of gold, there is a shanty town with horse manure everywhere, and everybody either at their claim, the bar or a brothel.
it made my day when I got this notification!
Keep a close eyevon Claudia! 😊
Happy to see a new upload, but I must say I'm not convinced in the slightest that Boers were to blame for the raid. 54 deaths per 1000 people is high, but Johannesburg was only founded 9 years earlier and hastily built. The death rate in Glasgow in 1901 was 21 per 1000. And I don't think it's unreasonable to be weary of a huge number of migrant miners. If you voluntarily move to another country to make money you are a guest. Maybe the Boer government should have better addressed the needs of the migrants, but to launch a revolution and war over this? Jameson himself obviously didn't care about the condition of the Uitlanders if he launched the raid without their support and accidently on purpose left before Rhodes could say no. And of course all this lead to more war and suffering. 48,000 people died in British concentration camps during the Anglo-Boer war. The death rate in the camps got as high as 344 per 1000.
Pretty obvious that the British wanted to start a war to seize all those gold mines. Extremely obvious.
Check your facts. Only 56,000 pows were taken during the war. Most were held overseas and returned at the end of the war. You got bad information from your source.
@@johnkidd1226 They weren't POWs. They were families. Just like how Japanese people put in internment camps in the US during WWII were not POWs. Most of the people who died in the British concentration camps were children.
GOOD TO SEE YOU MY FRIEND
Love to see another video! The Duke of Johannesburg also has some lovely current state of the city.
nice one 5RR
Martin so Nice to have another video , I was wondering if you were not well?
Just incredibly busy. Thanks for your concern Alistair.
Thank you
Amazing work!
can't wait till part 2
Good to see you
Well here we see why SA left Rhodesia swinging in the wind for most of the Bush War. The arrogance we hear is staggering. He recounts the hubris of Rhodes, Jameson, etc; their failure to take advice; Jameson's determination to go ahead and his untimatum to his own commander; then calmly asserts that blame must be directed solely at the Boers.
I can imagine SA thinking, "those Rhodesians say they are fighting to preserve their way of life. Good luck to them."
Firsly SA SAPS and subsequently Bats and Recconance commandos b
assisted in Mozambique and in Rhodesia. PW had the SANDF on standby when Mugabe was elected, however the order to somehow never came. The fall of Rhodesia was a terrible loss
"Well here we see why SA left Rhodesia swinging in the wind for most of the Bush War. " Which bush war was that Mike? Certainly not the bush war leading up to independence for Zim. How do you think Rhodesia managed to get the supplies - and finance - for that war? If you know anything, you will know that the whole Southern African theatre only changed after a few visits from Kissinger (and Owen who tagged along) which led to not only a change in Rhodesia but also to a fundamental change in SA.
Happy UDI day to you and yours
Great story!
Are you ok? It’s quite a while since you posted and I have no other way to ask how you are.🤔
I have some old photo's from 1980 Zim including a photo of the painting of UDI 11.11.64. The painter that was commissioned to do the painting had it in her possession 1981. If found by any good commrade at the time it would have been destroyed. I'd like to send you a copy of the painting but how ? Steve Wilson Perth Australia.
Bravo Sir exelent
So basically, the Uitlanders were the original economic migrants. It's fascinating how this ball got rolling. I heard it is even beginning to reach the Britain now too.
You make injection moulds? Might you be working on a line of Rhodesian miniatures?
We learned of the Jameson Raid at school in South Africa, but the reasons for the Uitlanders distress was glossed over by saying they wanted representation and citizenship with its accompanying civil rights.
The Boers were right to be scared of giving the Uitlanders voting rights, as they feared the breakdown of their agrarian Christian philosophy.
My Great-grandfather George Annandale (of Scots decent) fought with his Kommando against the Jameson Raiders.
The Lion and the Tusk.
I have read Alexandra Fuller's books on her childhood, also Peter Godwin's books ...
Dr David Owen couldn't find it in himself to condemn the Viscount Hunyani atrocity.
I do it for him on behalf of Britain, just as many many Brits and Irish lent à hand to their kith and kin in Southern Africa when it counted.
Vanodada kuva nazvo.
It seems ironic that the Atelanders complaints where the same as black Rhodesians years later…
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Sorry but it appears to me that Jameson tought he had a great plan and a perfect opportunity to bring a new territory under the crown, gain fame and an rank for himself and go down in history. An opportunity to take the Boers by surprise and a good enough excuse to invade might never come back.
The pitiful working conditions were not rare, if you look at the life expectancy of the miners in Newcastle UK, it was not much better than in south Africa, not to mention the terrible condition of the Irish people.
Saying that the Jameson raid was done for the helping the English speaking miners is about as true as Hitler invading Poland to protect German speakers in the Danzig corridor from expulsion.
In both cases those were likely a factor in the decision, but definitely not the deciding factors.
The possibility to take over the mines and the great wealth they brought, as well as the desire to gain fame & rank and the possibility to weaken the Boers far outstripped any desire to help American and German miners.
More than 1 in 20 died due to poor sanitary conditions in the shanty towns. 5.4% death rate from a single source is abominable.
A very British take on the lead up to the Raid; there is of course a second side to every coin, and so too here.
Britain arrived on the shores of South Africa in the late 1700s with a very heavy stick and stole Southern Africa from the Boers. Britain imposed fairly draconian laws to benefit the British uitlanders and this resulted in huge resentment on the part of the Boers. The Boer resentment against the British led to the Great Trek of 1835 - 40 and the eventual establishment of the two Boer republics - OFS and Transvaal. When gold was discovered on the Rand (Transvaal) and diamonds at Kimberly (OFS), Britain, in its usual heavy-handed manner, tore up the treaties it had made with the Boers and put the Republics under British control - the result - the first Anglo-Boer War. Britain hugely underestimated the Boers and got a thorough snot-klap from them and promptly sued for peace. But British duplicity can be seen at its finest and the "peace" was nothing more than breathing space so Britain could re-arm and re-attack - second Anglo-Boer War.
When you balance the British view given in the video with the reality of the bigger picture, it changes the uitlander's sob-story somewhat. I am from a divided family - half were Boers and half were British and the British half put all the blame on the Boers and the Boer half detest the British for their lying, duplicitous nature. Rhodes was a scoundrel who would say and do anything to make the world British - he claimed he thanked God daily for three things - 1. He was white; 2. He was a man; 3. He was born British. It was his stated desire to give all people a hope of becoming No.3. His aim - to extend the empire from Cape to Cairo and the Boers were a damned inconvenience to his objective.
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I love your stories. But it is a difference of a point of view. Your stories paint the British is a good light. My point of view are of people who are looking to make money for the crown in the process they will use any evil to destroy a country.
Well history is history but I do not see the Brits in such a innocent light
Your bias is showing. The Brits provided modern infrastructure in all their colonies and granted independence to most without strife. They gave a much better way of life than many of the other colonial powers and certainly better than the Marxist regimes that succeeded them in many cases. Evil is too strong a word when you consider what the people suffered before and after British colonial rule.
@@johnkidd1226 yes some good came of it, that was not my statement. But they were no angels and many people died due to their actions. To make profit for the crown.
What is your take on concentration camps in South Africa being the insperation to events in WW 2?
@@jacquesdutoit5637 Concentration camps were not new to Europe nor even to S. Africa in 1900. They were used around the world in times of unrest so trying to blame Britian for spawning Hitler's excesses is a weak and ignorant argument.
Oom Paul must fall!
The Uitlanders were free to leave the Transvaal if they were so unhappy. Remember this was a Boer Republic and was fought for and paid for dearly by the Boers in lives and treasure. And I do not appreciate your denigrating remarks of President Paul Kruger.
Kruger was an idiot. He told Joshua Slocum he was lying about sailing around the world because the world was flat.
"The Uitlanders were free to leave the Transvaal if they were so unhappy." Ya, Willem if only Life was as black and white as depicted by that remark. Totally understand that it cannot be good for the population of foreigners to exceed the number of Boers. I think the point is more about people coming to a 'new' country to work with the expectation of being treated in a fair and civilised manner. If there is work and a possibility of doing exceptionally well, one would put up with a lot of hardships but, conversely, in a mature society a 'win-win' situation is always the best way forward in the long run. It seems President Kruger came to a similar conclusion.
Interesting how after the Second World War when the Boer Nationalist Party took power they almost reverted to the same anti attitude to any one who did not speak Afrikaans as a home language. For example all the civil service exams were only in Afrikaans and I was told if you had a English speaking wife even if you spoke Afrikaans you would lose your job.
Nonsense
Fact actually, I knew people that had this done to them and it’s well documented
Some Afrikaners were very biased against the British but it worked both ways. In Rhodesia, for instance, Afrikaners faced disdain and were the butt of van der Merwe jokes which highlighted the supposed stupidity of Afrikaners.
Firrrrst...!!?
Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife Sophie were shot to death by a Bosnian Serb nationalist during an official visit to the Bosnian capital of Sarajevo on June 28, 1914. The killings sparked a chain of events that led to the outbreak of World War I by early August.