Black People Are FINALLY NORMAL In Dragon Ball?

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • #DragonBall #DragonBallZ #DragonBallSuper
    It's the age old question. How are black characters treated in dragon ball? Going through the history of anime characters that are black or black anime characters is a testing subject. Throughout the years, the designs were exaggerated. But what about today? Dragon Ball Super Chapter 88 makes a huge change in the dragon ball fandom forever. Qaaman discusses the history of black characters in dragon ball today.

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  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 Рік тому +205

    Piccolo will always be the black warrior on the dragon team

  • @DirtyDev
    @DirtyDev Рік тому +77

    I always assumed popo was not meant to be black he always seemed like just a spiritual entity or alien.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +4

      Did this video change your mind?

    • @SuperiorIronman98
      @SuperiorIronman98 Рік тому +20

      Well he is supposed to be the guardian of the God from the earth of course he is not a human being

    • @DirtyDev
      @DirtyDev Рік тому +12

      @@QaamansLand no

    • @sodokami6347
      @sodokami6347 Рік тому +6

      @A J Yeah I got some family down south that have very dark skin where I’m just a shade of brown

    • @thatsright9473
      @thatsright9473 Рік тому +2

      @@sodokami6347 remember xeonverse where Mr. Satan's hairstyle was the only kind a brotha could rock lol

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen Рік тому +1

    0:40 piccolo pretty much used his version of clothes beam (invisible variant) to make sure that the booty hole stays open for him and to self destruct when her usefulness comes to an end.

  • @shivendra3019
    @shivendra3019 Рік тому +2

    Qaaman will be the happiest person in the world when Piccolo gains a Black Piccolo form in the future similar to Orange Piccolo Form

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +2

      Because orange is an ugly, horrible names color?

    • @shivendra3019
      @shivendra3019 Рік тому +1

      @@QaamansLandOrange is good bro but Piccolo truly deserves more recognition and more exclusive story arcs and like Black Frieza he may gain Black Piccolo form if the elder kai maybe unlocks his potential further.

  • @dukefan369
    @dukefan369 Рік тому +5

    There are approximately 25,000 "black" people living in Japan (maximum and about .02% of population 1/5000 people). By comparison, there is a higher percentage of Amish living in the US (.07% of population). The fact that there are so many black characters to talk about to begin with in the Dragon Ball series is nothing short of statistically amazing. Its funny because people talk about things they don't understand, for example in the US as an example you see an "inclusive cast" of a show to be approximately equal numbers of all ethnicities and sexualities. Even with all of the extremely skewed data to portray a certain narrative a diverse cast would really look like this in the US specifically: 7 straight white people (mix of men and women), 1 straight black person, 1 straight latino, and 1 mixed race bisexual (at the most). Yet if you watch commercials or shows that are made in the US today as an outsider, you would assume that there are as many if not more black people specifically when black people don't even outnumber hispanics in the US. Just check the census data, there are so many references lol. In summary: In japan there are basically no black people to speak of, and in America black people are now statistically being over included in media... I/we care because this country is just as much ours as yours... It matters... Love your videos, always have, and I never thought I would leave a comment like this on a Dragon Ball video lol. And yes, i watched to the end...

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      Right but Toriyama and Japan are both very aware of black people in America media. American media influences Japan now right?

    • @dukefan369
      @dukefan369 Рік тому +1

      @@QaamansLand American media (and western media in general) has been influencing Japan as a whole since WWII. Although I'm not quite sure what was meant or the nature of your comment. Not quite sure if we agree or disagree lol. The following 2 paragraphs straight from wikipedia.
      In the post-war years, Japanese media was often influenced by the United States,[9] leading some to define anime as any animation emanating from Japan after 1945.[26]: 5  While anime and manga began to flourish in the 1940s and 1950s, with foreign films (and layouts by American cartoonists),[27] influencing people such as Osamu Tezuka,[28]
      In the 1950s, anime studios began appearing across Japan. Hiroshi Takahata bought a studio named Japan Animated Films in 1948, renaming it Tōei Dōga,[15] with an ambition to become "the Disney of the East." While there, Takahata met other animators[29] such as Yasuji Mori, who directed Doodling Kitty, in May 1957. However, for the Japanese public, it wasn't until the release of Panda and the Magic Serpent in October 1958 that Japan fully entered into world of professional animation.[13] While animators began to experiment with their own styles, using Western techniques,[24] Tezuka Osamu began drawing shonen manga[30] like Rob no Kishi (Knight of the Ribbon), which later became Princess Knight, trying to appeal to female readers, while also pioneering shoujo manga.

  • @BASEDFLASH
    @BASEDFLASH Рік тому +1

    AYO.. Qaaman love you but I gotta get you on these bars to YOU
    I did it to Chuck the Cyber … what but you know im takin to you, said you think trunks can’t slide…. Mai just wasn’t feeling the view
    She was liking the dude that had her in the mood when was killing FRIEZA AND OTHER DUDES!!! MMM ima say something to Geekdom. He the bro like watching to… but finna
    Micheal Jack son him with bars SO IMA JUST BEAT HIM MMMMMMM
    (much love Geekdom btw) and I said that as NO DISS.. THANK YOU BASED GOD.. YOU CAN FK MY… man I was gonna say the word but he would pull the trigger with an itch… MMMMMMMM ❤😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯😶🔥💯💯🔥🔥🔥💯💯😂😂😂

  • @reinsama2.09
    @reinsama2.09 Рік тому

    You know what I find interesting? How NONE of the keyboard warriors cancelled toriyama for his depiction of black people in the past
    Cough officer black cough

    • @thanksfortrumpcnnmsnbcandh8771
      @thanksfortrumpcnnmsnbcandh8771 Рік тому +1

      Nobody cared in the 80s and 90s

    • @DirtyDev
      @DirtyDev Рік тому +1

      Officer black was kinda cool tho

    • @themenacingsloth
      @themenacingsloth Рік тому +1

      @@thanksfortrumpcnnmsnbcandh8771 True, but for whatever reason, people have felt the need to feel some type of way about things 50 years later. It don’t matter anymore, that sh-t was THEN, people need to focus on the NOW

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere Рік тому +19

    Nice to see BLK people finally get positive light for once and not looking like 1950s goofy stereotypes. Thanks Q (and/or his wonderful team/editors) for the hard work you've been doing for years and love for anime is unmatched 👍🤠👍

    • @JaejoongPrincess
      @JaejoongPrincess 6 місяців тому

      He wasn't Black to begin with. He is like a god or something else.

    • @gespenst1329
      @gespenst1329 Місяць тому

      @@JaejoongPrincessEven aside him, it’s generally a problem for Toriyama works during that period.

  • @isaacpage1916
    @isaacpage1916 Рік тому +67

    Thank you for coming back consistently. It was because of your channel that I got back into dragon ball almost 10 years ago. I used to binge your videos for hours.

  • @limemaster4942
    @limemaster4942 Рік тому +15

    Whats messed up about Killa is that his Japanese voice speaks normally, they chose to make him speak nonsense in the english dub

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому

      Did you watch the video?

    • @limemaster4942
      @limemaster4942 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand oh yea im just bad at paying attention

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama Рік тому +1

      thus proving that toriyama didnt have a thing against the people and the USA dub of dbz is the racial biased one. 😂😞

    • @uselessinformation1988
      @uselessinformation1988 Рік тому +1

      @@krishrama There were black people that spoke normal on DBZ. I always took it as that was just how Killa talks. I never saw anything racist in it.

  • @ElectricalFlare7201
    @ElectricalFlare7201 Рік тому +39

    Honestly had to do a double take when I first saw Rulah lol. Couldn't believe they actually drew a Black character normal in Dragon Ball for a change lol. Nice to see then finally catching up with the times.
    Edit: There was also that teacher from DBS: Super Hero(at least I think she was Black).

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +13

      I totally forgot about her until you and another commenter mentioned it. That's why the internet is great

    • @samthediscusser19
      @samthediscusser19 Рік тому +5

      Goku Black wasn’t mentioned in this video?

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 Рік тому +3

      @@samthediscusser19 lmao

    • @bravocrimson12
      @bravocrimson12 Рік тому +1

      Agreed. You don't gotta go all woke to be inclusive and treat everyone the same

    • @_PuppetMaster86
      @_PuppetMaster86 Рік тому +2

      Is everyone forgetting about Pamput and King Chappa? Not to mention Uub is dark-skinned and not drawn with exaggerated features.

  • @underdogchris1753
    @underdogchris1753 Рік тому +8

    One minor mistake but Popo was actually black in the Nicktoons version of Kai. It was the CW4kids dub that made him blue.

    • @uselessinformation1988
      @uselessinformation1988 Рік тому

      I heard that many people were offended by black Mr. Popo. That was why they made him blue.

  • @lucidmind9676
    @lucidmind9676 Рік тому +8

    As a young black man myself, seeing the over exaggerated features of the older black characters at the beginning of this video made me bust out laughing because damn…. Toriyama ain’t have to do us black people like that 😂 I’m someone who can look at stuff like that and laugh because as long as it’s not either hateful or directed specifically at me, I know how to find humor when it comes to stereotype jokes

    • @ludwigtheholyblade_777
      @ludwigtheholyblade_777 Рік тому

      How is blatant racism funny?

    • @gespenst1329
      @gespenst1329 Місяць тому

      It was in all his works throughout the 80’s-90’s period, one of the few stains on his work.
      There were more normal depictions in other anime like Macross from 1982.

  • @jodystrickland9150
    @jodystrickland9150 Рік тому +5

    As a kid I never saw popo as being a black dude. I always assumed that he was some type of genie bc of his clothing. Guys like piccolo, nail, and pikkon tho lol.

  • @mdxque8393
    @mdxque8393 Рік тому +7

    Just wonder are Kale, Super Broly and Turles considered black, the saiyan equivalent of black or I’m a dumb and they are brown and grey respectively?

    • @MrJokerSenpai
      @MrJokerSenpai Рік тому +6

      No they're just tanned or darker toned, when they turn SSJ their skin tone turns the same colour as Goku and Vegeta's.

  • @saysay7191
    @saysay7191 Рік тому +7

    Mr. Popo isnt black😭. i cant let him set us back💀

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому +4

      😂 it should be an honor man. popo is OP. he was able to dodge super saiyans...
      with that speed reveal he could one shot king piccolo back in the day. had we known. lol.
      show some respect to kamis right hand and loyal friend.

  • @bobbysmitty1628
    @bobbysmitty1628 Рік тому +15

    Art imitates life. There are individuals who fit the way characters are depicted. The reason we are able to easily identify the stereotypes is because there are people like that who exist. Furthermore, we have to be mindful of the times. In 20 years, we might shame our current selves for watching shows with rampant violence. Shonen is largely about characters assaulting each other. If we take offense to everything, at what point does it stop?

    • @christopherbassit2757
      @christopherbassit2757 Рік тому +1

      When y’all stop being snowflakes

    • @bobbysmitty1628
      @bobbysmitty1628 Рік тому +2

      @@christopherbassit2757 "Y'all" is a strong word 😁. If someone illustrates themes I don't like, I just don't watch. They act like Toriyama was walking around on street corners handing out propaganda pamphlets. There are things to be upset over, I don't see this as one of them.

  • @SasukeUchiha-lq4tc
    @SasukeUchiha-lq4tc Рік тому +5

    aye what about Us Mexicans???????? We need some love

  • @Lunchbillion
    @Lunchbillion Рік тому +27

    Really interesting to see you come at Dragon Ball analysis from a less in-universe lens, discussing it as a piece of art that exists in reality and in a historical context. Would love to see more like this!

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +3

      Please explain more what you mean in-depth. By the piece of art and less in-universe.

  • @reptilian_geneticist
    @reptilian_geneticist Рік тому +11

    I think Uub is most likely Indian like Nam... he comes from a very similar looking tribe in the middle of the desert just like Nam and his skin color is very similar to Nam's as well... and I dont think Australia exists in the Dragonball world so i doubt that Uub is an aborigine

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +5

      Dark skinned pacific Islanders exist

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Рік тому +5

      @@QaamansLand true but haven't we seen Uubs tribe out in the middle of the desert??? And Isn't Uubs reason for fighting at the tournament to get money for food and water for his village, just like Nam???

    • @Diamondr11Blue
      @Diamondr11Blue Рік тому +1

      @@QaamansLand uub us Indian/asian

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому +3

      that theory is logical. thats what i think of too. but the outcry for black uub was cuz some fans wanted a legit normal black fighting character in db.
      its kind of sad since there was such fighters in dbz tho all lippy. lol but still it wasnt like in the dark humor black face vibe. they were fighters n even
      had a high rank official in og db. some ppl to sensitive bro. i dont believe in toriyama personally being a hater of blacks. or having some agenda to them.
      that said. i cant wait to see qaaman uub video and theory on his aborgine roots. its interesting.

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому +1

      then i think there was some artwork showing uub being train'd by king chappa. who looks kinda indian/black mix. lol so theres that!
      could be both. 😆👍

  • @M.W.K6996
    @M.W.K6996 Рік тому +7

    What would be your version if Chi-Chi continued her training and became a Z-Fighter?

  • @kingdomcomesuperman3669
    @kingdomcomesuperman3669 Рік тому +19

    Can't deny that Mr Pop looks identical to the black face caricature but I think he was more so meant to convey the image of an alien since we have Staff Officer Black who definitely followed the caricature with the lips and eyes but was less extreme than Mr Popo with the tooth & darker tone, which Killa also followed design-wise.
    But as for being up to date the manga definitely is but even in Super Hero with the RR Army flashback in the beginning Staff Officer Black still had the comical big lips. That just might be a case of emulating the artstyle over implications but idk.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +3

      What about Jynx?

    • @kingdomcomesuperman3669
      @kingdomcomesuperman3669 Рік тому +4

      @@QaamansLand Jinx I'd say is in the same case where the intention was alien but after feedback of how it was regarded in the west, was amended.

    • @BlckJohnnyQuest
      @BlckJohnnyQuest Рік тому

      You chatting shyt, Japanese think blacks are funny and they don't care about blacks...

  • @PureMaddnessOne
    @PureMaddnessOne Рік тому +5

    Mr Popo is a Genie, who says that he is the only 1 that looks like that, i personally always presumed all genies in DBZ looked like that although with diff colour pallets.
    Android 15 is more purple than black/brown though. Although i member mostly the Big Green dub stuff from him, he came more off as a alcohol type.
    Staff Officer Black is still a smart and capable guy, hence why many many ppl didn't have much problems with him untill las couple years ago by ppl who r not DBZ fans.
    Jynx is based of a Yokai that predates blackface by years, she isn't connected 1 Mr Popo, their origins lies elsewhere.
    Early DB is pretty much a lot gag as well and Akira is a big fan like 'pulling the rug from under you' aka subverting what the reader expects. How many ppl (who r not DBZ fans) think how Staff Officer Black is vs how he actually is in the end, as he looks big and muscular as well, so many ppl 1st think he is a dumb strength character, but than he shows he is pretty smart.
    I did think when i was younger that Killa was Staff Officer Black's younger brother.
    I am a bit confused what mean with Staff Officer Black's eyes, as they don't look that diff many other DBZ characters.
    On Uub, i saw him as a middle Eastern character.
    I do say i look from a European lense. But variety how characters look is a good thing.
    What can be annoying with some DBZ fans that they want Piccolo 2 be black so much that they warp how DBZ is and get offended when someone that Piccolo is a green alien, because they have need that there MUST be a black character as part of main group in show. I have never understood that, i always prefer well written characters, i don't care much if someone is black, white, Asian, gay, straight, bi, autistic, whatever with it or not. Either aliens evolved diff from humans anyway, who can all look diff from humans. The need of forcing a character (because of (forced) diversity reasons) into a show can create or bland characters or stereotype as well (something both Marvel and DC have that problem atm). Not much of problem seeing Piccolo as "black", as that is how i (jokingly) see him as well.
    I am bi, and didn't have much have a problem on how General Blue was depicted, most the time, as it was mostly for gags and jokes should be allowed. But that think with Obotchaman is a bit that i less liked, especially because we didn't have much more gay/bi men in show beside the guy that Trunks fought (1 that i didn't have much problems with because gag, alhtough Goten would've been funnier especially going by that Goten is made into a ladies man in GT), but he is there so little.
    Wonder what think of Uganda Knuckles, especially that ppl from Uganda love the character.
    Wonder what see Goku and Vegeta as, white or Asian, same with some of the other DBZ characters.

  • @focuswaves9021
    @focuswaves9021 Рік тому +5

    You forgot King Chappa from the classic Dragon Ball. He appears in 2 tournaments if I'm not mistaken

    • @Mr.PR2000
      @Mr.PR2000 Рік тому +2

      King Chappa was probably the only character not over exaggerated.

  • @blackomega4061
    @blackomega4061 Рік тому +15

    Everyone seems to forget there was a scene in Dragonball Superhero where one of Pan's daycare teachers was also a black lady who looked appropriately designed and acted normally! She was only in the movie for a brief scene but I just thought I'd point that one out too.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +7

      To be honest? I totally forgot about her...

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому +1

      lol gone db has gone woke?! ...it had to happen at some point. 😂
      but jokes aside it is nice to see them non lippy characters. idk if thats a toriyama call or a toyotoro tho?? hmm.

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Рік тому

      @@ssppeeaarr both?

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому

      @@Eric6761 both?? i doubt that. it has to be one or the other. but personally cuz i doubt tori would all of a sudden change his art style to the PC. feels like a toyo thing here. being of the younger n socially aware guy. i mean just look at the miles look alike. i doubt toriyama has interest in spiderverse.
      i mean after all those years of big lips n now they mysteriously gone...?! lol idk how i feel about that. its kind of sad. 😯😁

    • @tengoodquestions
      @tengoodquestions Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand I remembered her, she reminds me of bulmas mum

  • @shameronstar7220
    @shameronstar7220 Рік тому +5

    Uub would be an Australian aboriginal?

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      Most likely. It will be explained in a future video

    • @shameronstar7220
      @shameronstar7220 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand Like the Samoans basically like Roman Reigns? lol

  • @nixuniverse5240
    @nixuniverse5240 Рік тому +15

    One thing I love about Rulah is that her name is a play on “Ruler” but her name is pronounced like how Black people say “Ruler”. 😅 probably unintentional but it’s still funny

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi Рік тому +36

    The depiction of Black characters has gone a positive way in Dragonball. Rulah seems like a cool character I hope she becomes a Z fighter of the Dragon Team.

    • @DirtyDev
      @DirtyDev Рік тому +23

      Lol she will not be a z fighter bro this series does not care about humans

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Рік тому +5

      Why though? What makes these new depictions more positive???

    • @MrJokerSenpai
      @MrJokerSenpai Рік тому

      @@reptilian_geneticist because now they resemble actual black people, without big red ring lips and goofy expressions, they just looked dumb as hell and not accurate at all.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Рік тому +6

      @@MrJokerSenpai actual black people do have big lips... its literally the most common characteristic of black people besides hair and skin color.... big lips and dark skin is extremely accurate and realistic for the majority of black people... like wtf are you even talking about??? You'll find 100 black people that look like the boxer Killa before you find one that looks like Rulah... Rulah is unrealistic 💯💯💯

    • @2BE2024
      @2BE2024 Рік тому

      @@reptilian_geneticist 🧢 cappery

  • @lizbizwiz1238
    @lizbizwiz1238 Рік тому +3

    Seeing these two and Miss Janet (Pan’s teacher from the recent movie) just makes me so happy! 😁

  • @Draco7876
    @Draco7876 Рік тому +14

    1. Loved the piccolo portion he's always a welcome site 😀
    2. I agree. I would love an updated version of the og DragonBall characters with a more normalized look to the POC. Idk what'd they'd do for popo outside of doing a similar design to Alladins genie or something similar but I'd love to see it

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +2

      Which portion specifically?

    • @Draco7876
      @Draco7876 Рік тому +2

      @@QaamansLand just the "idk how you got me into this she's not even my wife" portion it's comical for me cause I get roped into similar situations at times 😂

    • @sodokami6347
      @sodokami6347 Рік тому +1

      @ThatYellowSpiderGuy We taking both 😂

  • @darthsidious4274
    @darthsidious4274 Рік тому +3

    If black lips are exaggerated, the white characters have no lips at all, which can be debated to be also pretty exaggerated haha

    • @supesisfodder7427
      @supesisfodder7427 Рік тому +1

      Shsh don’t upset the masses

    • @ogolow570
      @ogolow570 Рік тому +1

      None of the characters have obvious large lips *besides black characters* in old dragon ball. Your clapback failed horribly

    • @darthsidious4274
      @darthsidious4274 Рік тому

      @@ogolow570 So black characters having full lips is wrong? You want those white straight line lips huh?

  • @OshSamoht-tj8rk
    @OshSamoht-tj8rk Рік тому +2

    Mr. Popo is not black plus Toriyama said Mr. Popo did not reflect any form of human and is not a human

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 9 місяців тому

      People Theorized he's a Genie I'd like to see a arc Featuring Mr Popo facing a Villan and his Orgins Revealed

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 6 місяців тому

      He's a depiction of an African Muslim with animal ears and no nose.

  • @infinityhand6569
    @infinityhand6569 Рік тому +13

    Idc what anyone says, Mr. Black was cool
    Also Mr. Popo clearly was never created as a representation for black people

  • @christon0123
    @christon0123 Рік тому +3

    I’m black and I like big lips. I embrace our distinctive skin and features

  • @nassiemartinez4399
    @nassiemartinez4399 Рік тому +14

    I feel like the time period isn’t much of an excuse. If you look back there are characters like Smokey and Avdol from Jojo Battle Tendency who’s not really stereotyped, even in the manga. Plus there are still stereotypical portrayals in the modern day like garter belt from panty and stocking

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому

      Care to explain more in-depth on those characters? Don't know much

    • @evergriffith221
      @evergriffith221 Рік тому +1

      Search jojo smokey and you’ll see what he means by the design

    • @prolastmedia6171
      @prolastmedia6171 Рік тому +5

      @@QaamansLand Hes right, Toriyama unfortunately is just racist or at least extremely racially insensitive even compared to other mangaka of the time - I just separate art from artist in that case and i do appreciate the progress weve made in regards to representation in DB.

    • @nassiemartinez4399
      @nassiemartinez4399 Рік тому

      @@evergriffith221 she*

    • @nassiemartinez4399
      @nassiemartinez4399 Рік тому +3

      @@QaamansLand Smokey is a pretty minor character but when he’s first introduced he’s being harassed by the police and the MC Joseph saves him. Avdol is an Egyptian guy and he’s actually the first person we see using the ability called “stands” in the series which is basically like personas if you’ve played those games. The author, Araki addresses racism in his stories and is very much against it, probably because he’s traveled the world and actually talked to black people before. He was way ahead of his time in terms of portraying that type of stuff and also portraying other things such as gay people and strong female characters who also have flaws. Even the black villains are pretty normal and aren’t portrayed stereotypically.

  • @adambraun1990
    @adambraun1990 Рік тому +5

    I’m pretty sure Goten’s friend (the “Miles Morales” character) is named “Compass”.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +3

      No. That's Trunks friend who was in the classroom. I only know for sure because I just read the chapter and made a video on it.

    • @adambraun1990
      @adambraun1990 Рік тому +1

      @@QaamansLandah yeah you’re right. I had to go back and look at it again.

  • @You_knowMeRightImNoOne
    @You_knowMeRightImNoOne 22 дні тому +1

    Nah, that's popo 💀

  • @Nightout88
    @Nightout88 Рік тому +2

    jinx is based off of a style of fashon in japan from the 90s called "ganguro".

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 Рік тому +2

      fun fact ganguro translates to "black face" apparently.

  • @reemobk6499
    @reemobk6499 Рік тому +4

    Qaaman what's your opinion on Belmod's voice actor? When I first heard the English dub I was surprised that he was portraying a distinct African American voice. That for me was the wake realisation that their arnt many back characters or voices throughout dragon ball then looking back it's now obvious Popo and that are based on older depictions of black people.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      Hate it and privately ranted to others on discord about it years ago.

  • @Dante95nyc
    @Dante95nyc Рік тому +1

    UUB is an aboriginal for those who don't know what Qaaman is talking about

  • @duvan-solis
    @duvan-solis Рік тому +2

    Ok, I might elaborate a few interpretations about this.
    First, the relevance of this for the Dragon ball franchise. This topic is not much of a thing because the bizarre and exaggerated depictions, one way or another, do not establish a social commentary. Toriyama is not known for his input or trends against racial and ethnical groups, reason to assume it was not meant to illustrate the real author's view of these groups. Thought, some of his jokes seem like products of the time at some instances.
    Second, considering the ratio of characters in Dragon Ball, which are black, it is incorrect to rush to the assumption the looks of this few characters implies the general look of all black characters inside the franchise.
    Third, there is a question to identify in the matter of how we feel over these looks. Like, are we assuming the problem is the lack of realism or the actual appearance of the characters? When we focus in answering the question, it might be considerable that:
    The purpose and achievements of this anime aren't linked to the realism it establish. Dragon ball is at its center a fictional, develop like a comedy, sci-fiction and mystical tale.
    The anime, is particular with the visual. However, the cartoonish traits don't invite us to judge the looks for better or worse, like we are not being lead to discriminate groups in real life with even slight similarities.
    Fourth, it actually is great to have more diverse in designs for every kind of character. Thought, the idea of them looking more like other main characters doesn't imply that's a normalization in real standards. After all, anime looks are far from real looks, anyways.
    The point, while it might had been doll and overused way of depicting communities, which is why having more variation is great. It must be for sure mention is not a change because of the franchise being less racist, as it was not trying to be from the beginning.
    This is also a topic, I think might be more noticeable and debatable in regards to Japan's old art media. Contextually, there were, more of general idea here, a dramatic reaction from most of Japan against certain groups at the times, which was the reason for social depictions and ideas that are outdated nowdays. Like, this is not a light topic, and not a reason to make assumptions of Japan's society. The causes and such, are still debatable and the consequences are somehow understandable from certain points of view (Thus, why it's so interesting as a topic.)

  • @dennisthegreat1
    @dennisthegreat1 Рік тому +1

    What a country can more then one heritage, culture, etc. Gtf outta here

  • @Chobitsx3
    @Chobitsx3 Рік тому +2

    Mr pope isn't black his a Jinn 😂

  • @bwslayer926
    @bwslayer926 Рік тому +2

    Mr. Pope is based on Arab culture. I seen Toriyama's original design sheet for the character and one design had Mr. Pope looking like a old Arab guy. General Black is the real offensive design in DragonBall. Of course there are more anti-black caricatures in the background like at tournaments.

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 6 місяців тому

      Mr. Popo could be a depiction of an African Muslim. Namekians could be based on African Muslims too -- The Namekians are all bald, they wear Muslim-looking garments, they speak to a wise elder and they have African-sounding names like Dende. Planet Namek could also be a reference to Africa. Also, one Namekian character even has the stereotypical lips.

  • @IceClawz.
    @IceClawz. Рік тому +2

    It's not the world moving In a positive direction,it's Japan. Obviously because of their geographical location black people aren't that common so they wouldn't really have anyone to tell them they exadurated features might be offensive.

    • @diogodelacruz
      @diogodelacruz 6 місяців тому

      b. p. have "exaggerated features" compared to other races. the cartoonists aren't make anything up. what you guys call a accurate depiction is drawing w. features and painting them brown. In your minds we need to deny reality in order not to be ray cysts.

  • @v3rm
    @v3rm Рік тому +3

    dragon ball was racist af 💀

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 9 місяців тому +1

      it used it be sadly but not anymore

    • @boobXLTt
      @boobXLTt 7 місяців тому +1

      @@StevenJones851 sadly?

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 7 місяців тому +1

      @@boobXLTt I'm saying I'm glad it's not Racist anymore

    • @boobXLTt
      @boobXLTt 7 місяців тому +1

      @@StevenJones851 oh good I thought it was the other way around

    • @itzunknown.
      @itzunknown. 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@boobXLTt it used to be sadly, not anymore : 😃
      it used to be, sadly not anymore : 💀

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 Рік тому +3

    6:49 Correction: Nicktoons version of Kai showed him Black and the CW/Toonzai version of kai showed him Blue.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +2

      Totally correct. That was an error. You can tell I never really watched those versions often huh? 😂

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand understandable 😂

  • @galacticmaui2
    @galacticmaui2 Рік тому +1

    I always thought popo was like a genie alien

  • @Aluran
    @Aluran Рік тому +1

    Lol Stop not black hair sytle type she has the proper phenotypes lol

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen Рік тому +3

    0:48 i dont really have much to say about android 15 but imagine wesley snipes playing the live action version of this character if they were to do one concerning this character, it would fit like night and day

  • @MrSmith-1987
    @MrSmith-1987 Рік тому +3

    You can tell which ones were black by their lips… Pikkon

    • @bnbnism
      @bnbnism Рік тому

      Not really it's just because in dragon ball someone either has no lips or big lips(Pikkon) there's almost never an in between but people act like anyone with lips is minstrel character

  • @shameronstar7220
    @shameronstar7220 Рік тому +4

    Nimaiya Ouetsu from Bleach TYBW who's the creator of the zanpaktou

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      What are you talking about?

    • @shameronstar7220
      @shameronstar7220 Рік тому +1

      @@QaamansLand He's a new character from the new Bleach anime. He invented the weapon that soul reapers use, and he happens to be Black.

  • @idreadFell365
    @idreadFell365 Рік тому +2

    Was it ever stated that Mr Popo and Jynx were based off the stereotype? Are you sure it wasn’t just coincidence? As a Pokémon fan I know that Jynx is based off a certain makeup style in Japan that also involves blonde hair (something you can’t naturally see in black people in most cases). As for Mr Popo, I always assumed he wasn’t a human but some goofy lookin alien of sorts.

    • @uselessinformation1988
      @uselessinformation1988 Рік тому +1

      I have heard that some people were offended because they interpreted Mr. Popo's design as blackface and there's a version of DBZ where Mr. Popo is blue because of it. I personally believe it was a coincidence.

  • @mostcreativename1
    @mostcreativename1 Рік тому +11

    LET'S GOOO! I had the same feeling tbh when I saw the new chapter. NGL it definitely feels good to see this. Same with the teacher in the DBS movie. I usually don't care about representation but if it's overly caricature type representation available only (aka mostly before recent times) then yeah I think it goes a long way to have a more broad representation shown

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      So you disagree with the video?

    • @mostcreativename1
      @mostcreativename1 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand no I absolutely agree. And I love that it's beginning to go to a normal form of representation. I was saying in a *different* situation I might not feel the way I do right now

  • @njgrant3988
    @njgrant3988 Рік тому +1

    Uub is a tamil indian.

  • @Basheerrko
    @Basheerrko Рік тому +18

    Diversity is an important element in any story because at the end of the day, stories are reflections of us humans. Dragon ball is a global series and has many fans from many ethnicities all over the world and having black characters for black people will give them a connection to connect with them.
    Great and informative video qaaman keep up the great work sir 😊

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +3

      Thanks. What did you agree or disagree with?

    • @Basheerrko
      @Basheerrko Рік тому +3

      @Qaaman I agreed with all of your points but I liked the points were you discussed how uub is australian which after making a quick research actually make sense as well as the point about the sub vs dub where the sub doesn't have stereotypes as the dub since the dub was recorded to be suited for american audiences since so many people from the west don't watch the Japanese version.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Рік тому +3

      I just hope that the grey aliens get some representation soon because not all aliens are Green or Golden super warriors...

    • @Basheerrko
      @Basheerrko Рік тому +1

      @@reptilian_geneticist Totally agree because diversity matters.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Рік тому +5

      @@Basheerrko yeah it really makes a difference lol

  • @madebychikar7651
    @madebychikar7651 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s funny how people actually think Mr. Popo isn’t black

    • @Mr.Coffee576
      @Mr.Coffee576 6 місяців тому +2

      Because he isn’t, He’s based on off a Hindu deity. This might come as shock to you, but Toriyama didn’t make dbz with only black people in mind. It’s not an American show.

    • @gespenst1329
      @gespenst1329 Місяць тому

      @@Mr.Coffee576But even besides him, it’s still an issue not present in a lot of anime contemporary to Toriyama works.

  • @unspeakableflame420
    @unspeakableflame420 Рік тому +1

    "I could understand why people are calling him the Miles Morales friend of Goten" me too

  • @gespenst1329
    @gespenst1329 Місяць тому

    -The dub score playing in those particular initial clips is lowkey a disappointment.-
    But yea, it’s one of the few stains on Toriyama’s 80’s-90’s work in general (not just DB).
    Within that same time period, there were numerous anime series (like Gundam or Macross) that used better, non-objectionable designs for characters of this origin.

  • @tengoodquestions
    @tengoodquestions Рік тому +1

    The world is more globalized now prior to before when anime such as DB was running originally. Also, anime is more of a wider enjoyed medium so it's not a surprise that other races are being showcased. Look at Naruto, there's a whole village of black ninjas..same with Bleach and how well the black characters are designed and written, then there's Soul Eater and Fire force, Hunter X Hunter with the butler, MHA, and more

  • @VedicKnight
    @VedicKnight Рік тому +2

    nice bro been watching you since i was a kid lol

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому

      How old specifically do you estimate?

    • @VedicKnight
      @VedicKnight Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand I was like 19 I am 29 now. how about you

  • @randomreactionstv2721
    @randomreactionstv2721 Рік тому +1

    Uub can be African because I looked up African villages in his village look like a African village

  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru21 Рік тому +2

    Officer Staff Black & that 1 black Bartender 🤣

  • @VedicKnight
    @VedicKnight Рік тому +4

    to be fair to the Japs the dubbing is American lol

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +2

      Did you see the whole video?

    • @VedicKnight
      @VedicKnight Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand yea but i commented before I started lol

  • @TheInFamousTMF
    @TheInFamousTMF Рік тому +11

    I’m glad you made this video man I was waiting on someone important to the community to talk about this.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +4

      Glad you said someone important. Means a lot bro

    • @TheInFamousTMF
      @TheInFamousTMF Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand Just keeping it real bro. Keep it up!

    • @somberthunder8908
      @somberthunder8908 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand Qaaman you're the man

  • @KwameR.Sankofa
    @KwameR.Sankofa 2 місяці тому

    Why is this even offensive were projecting our western logic towards a homogeneous population like Japan. These people have theor own culture and mr popo, and even certain pkmn like lombre and jynx they aren black people just because their skin is literally black

  • @dzas_cave
    @dzas_cave Рік тому +3

    Bro that piccolo clip is funny

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому

      Which one?

    • @dzas_cave
      @dzas_cave Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand the first one with all the black characters

  • @obi8875
    @obi8875 Рік тому +1

    don’t forget that frieza is literally black now…

  • @WarsunGames
    @WarsunGames 6 місяців тому

    Actually Killa was French Canadian. Canadians figured this out.

  • @honeyboo1667
    @honeyboo1667 Рік тому +7

    As a black person im very pleased with this I’m tired of seeing us as the outcast and the ugly ones

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      I feel you sista

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому +1

      i thought those old dbz designs were kinda cool. not ugly. especially that one midget android from the movie and then ya even popo... he was just kamis loyal genie helper. but i never saw it as a diss to black ppl. even tho it has clear black face. i still dont really ever think toriyama intended that either. anyhow ya its a great to see normalized poc in dbs tho.

    • @honeyboo1667
      @honeyboo1667 Рік тому +2

      @@ssppeeaarr anime and cartoon always picture us as the less attractive we hardly ever saw a black girl in dbz that’s why I’m so pleased with this is black ppl characters always be the sidekick or that one character who downgrade at least now their trying to point us in the spotlight with the other main characters

    • @ssppeeaarr
      @ssppeeaarr Рік тому

      @@honeyboo1667 awws honey boo...
      ya i guess some anime and japan just kinda inifferent to yall. the animes i seen tho i havent really seen much of that black face stuff. or persons of color for matter lol. like ninja scroll. akira. vampire hunter D. astroboy. tenchi muyo... but i get what u mean. glad u can watch dragonball feeling appreciated now tho. ✌

    • @honeyboo1667
      @honeyboo1667 Рік тому +2

      @@ssppeeaarr don’t get me wrong I love anime but some of my low self esteem came from it making me think my lips too big and pink or my nose too wide but I’m glad I got over that lol

  • @DoomsdayHustle
    @DoomsdayHustle 7 місяців тому

    Is there any particular reason why you felt the need to condescend to people who don’t know what Australian aboriginals are?

  • @princeindisguise
    @princeindisguise 9 місяців тому

    I never considered mr popo to be a black person ever. Just a genie with jet black skin. However it's funny how the green skinned alien is considered like the black guy 😄

  • @True2ChainzLilWayne
    @True2ChainzLilWayne Рік тому +2

    Popo wasn’t edited on the Nick version of Dbz Kai, I think that was only the Toonzai edit.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +2

      That may have been a small mistake. Where was Toonzai from?

    • @True2ChainzLilWayne
      @True2ChainzLilWayne Рік тому +2

      @@QaamansLand
      I think that’s 4kids name at the time

  • @steve810
    @steve810 Рік тому +2

    Qaamansland type of dude to upload videos that Geekdom101 Has never made.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      In terms of? Show respect

    • @steve810
      @steve810 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand in terms of, he never made the content you make, therefore you are not copying him. That's what I mean, there is no disrespect qaaman lol!

  • @donthagnat
    @donthagnat Рік тому +1

    Lol
    Naruto been doing their thang

  • @batboythecool
    @batboythecool Рік тому +4

    Finally. Now I won't get asked if I'm Mr popo on the street anymore 🥲

  • @uselessinformation1988
    @uselessinformation1988 Рік тому

    It's my understanding that Mr. Popo was blue because people got offended. I never Mr. Popo as "blackface". I saw it as the way he was design and people who were offended are overreacting to it. Especially since people seem to get offended on behalf of people who are not offended. I'm from Arkansas. Arkansans are basically stereotyped to be hillbillies. I'm surprised the Beverly Hillbillies were from Texas rather than Arkansas. Whenever you see a hillbilly cartoon, the hillbilly is from Arkansas. Maybe some Arkansans are offended by that. But I'm not. The same could apply to Mr. Popo's design being racist. Maybe some black people are offended while other black people are fine with it. I would bet anything that the vast majority of people offended by "blackface" Mr. Popo are not even black.

  • @mayojar5264
    @mayojar5264 Рік тому +9

    I never noticed an Aboriginal inspiration with uub, that's actually an interesting thought.
    I'm Australian myself and grew up in a town that had a strong Aboriginal connection so i can sort of see a connection.
    If you made a video on this I would be highly interested in hearing what your thoughts are.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +4

      I will and I have had this video planned since 2015

    • @mayojar5264
      @mayojar5264 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand can't wait

  • @latiosfreak2000
    @latiosfreak2000 Рік тому +2

    super had a timeskip?

  • @linxxxx4859
    @linxxxx4859 Рік тому +5

    As much as I respect the series, I feel it was pretty racist to stereotype these features of a black person. These characters looked like clowns and it's sad that toriyama saw black people this way.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Рік тому +1

    Actually Mr. Popo was blue in the 4 kids

  • @DJPrimeAmvs
    @DJPrimeAmvs Рік тому +1

    What's funny was I was gonna suggest something like this in your last video but I was just too lazy too

  • @rwchitown5570
    @rwchitown5570 Рік тому +2

    Honorary mention to the heaters. They're basically Jamaican aliens

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому

      Umm? More like Predators...

    • @rwchitown5570
      @rwchitown5570 Рік тому +1

      @@QaamansLand I see what you did there.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому

      @@rwchitown5570 Specifically from the predator franchise. When Gas goes berserk he looks just like them

    • @rwchitown5570
      @rwchitown5570 Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand No one has ever mentioned this

  • @soulrobinson5731
    @soulrobinson5731 Рік тому

    Dragon ball always been Racist, Frieza for example…

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen Рік тому +2

    vegeta knows that mr popo gives bulma the bbc because mr popo is the top food chain while piccolo is known as the "penetrator" since we all know that gohan is generically a namekian wearing human skin

  • @magnuserror9305
    @magnuserror9305 6 місяців тому

    Popo is based on Djinn, not any dark skinned human race.

  • @crassusmaximus5879
    @crassusmaximus5879 Рік тому +1

    Future Trunks: Dont shoot! This man isnt Black!
    PS.: Oob is from New Zealand

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Рік тому

      There is no country in Dragon ball, Dragon ball itself os one country

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 6 місяців тому

      @@Eric6761 That may be true, but Planet Namek could be a reference to an African country like Sudan. Namekians share a lot of similarities with African Muslims and it might not be a coincidence.

  • @Mr.Knowledgeablerantz
    @Mr.Knowledgeablerantz Рік тому +2

    I'm happy you uploaded this video👏🏽

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen Рік тому +1

    0:18 mr popo was stealing bulma's soul and spiting it back into her body with the power of his black genie ki that only he has and anime only.

  • @gamingguru2k6
    @gamingguru2k6 Рік тому +2

    This isn't a new thing outside of dragon ball. That racial stereotypical style stems from Japanese animators imitating old American cartoons. That offense style is an American design. It was imitated out of ignorance. There generally wasn't mallace behind it.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +2

      Did you notice that I mentioned other anime characters or you didn't watch the video yet?

    • @gamingguru2k6
      @gamingguru2k6 Рік тому +2

      @@QaamansLand I did notice. I'm just speaking very broadly. This has all been going on for a long time. I think it's been more out of ignorance than any mallace. That's my main point.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +1

      @@gamingguru2k6 Your comment made it seem like you directly took a shot at me. Great name btw.

  • @dreethebeach
    @dreethebeach Рік тому +2

    Uub is aborigine

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Рік тому +4

      You understood what I meant huh? When I said Australian?

    • @dreethebeach
      @dreethebeach Рік тому

      @@QaamansLand of course. That’s really what most of us are but they hide it from us

  • @seekndestroy9932
    @seekndestroy9932 Рік тому +2

    Black people were correctly portrayed in dbz

  • @miamiyeah
    @miamiyeah Рік тому +1

    The black characters from anime that you mentioned are way more relevant than these dragon ball super characters though

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen 11 місяців тому

    mr popo's true form is mr hankey the christmas poo

  • @maplecolor1
    @maplecolor1 Рік тому +1

    👍🏾 a really good video

  • @KwameR.Sankofa
    @KwameR.Sankofa 2 місяці тому

    Japanese racism is cute compared to usa racist

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen Рік тому +1

    0:38 piccolo pretty much looks at that drivers license instructor and remembering how glad he was that chi chi pleasure his antennas while dressing him up as ken doll playing reverse basketball

  • @mikecoolgreen
    @mikecoolgreen Рік тому +1

    0:05 he's straight outta t rex compton and wants to prove that he isnt about that thug life because he wants mr hankey the christmas poo to get him a 10 speed

  • @JoseFlores-xh5cj
    @JoseFlores-xh5cj Рік тому +1

    Popo is clearly a Genie....... where are people getting that he is an alien?

    • @uselessinformation1988
      @uselessinformation1988 Рік тому +1

      So why doesn't he grant wishes? And why was it never stated that he is a genie? Was it stated in the Manga?

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 6 місяців тому

      He's clearly a minstrel style depiction of an African Muslim.

  • @Thee1TyUh
    @Thee1TyUh Рік тому +2

    Mr polo kinda look like a black face character