My dad loves the GB Europa design because it’s “functional!” He’s an aeronautical Engineer and “functional” means “camping.” Also, after spending a few hours on that model boat, there is no waste of space. Everything is where it is for purpose, not visual effect. It’s the closest thing to a VW camper van as you can get!
Ha! Mark here… as soon as you described it as a VW I knew it was doomed. Cinda has been a very patient wife living with our VW Westy “Oscar” for the past 5 years. I’ve leaned a few things in our 24 years of marriage… and living the VW camper of boats for a year plus would go directly against that learned wisdom. 🤣⚓️MB
The Boomershines I can already envision a GB Aleutian with “Lower The Boom,” sorry, with “SeaShine” on the transom! (You’re going to have fun with SeaShine over a VHF radio. Keep count of how many people reply with “She Shed.”). Thanks again, so much, for sharing your adventure.
@@TheBoomershines My (supportive) comments on your following videos keep being deleted. I can take a hint, so will unsubscribe. Best of luck on your adventure.
Friends and I go out a lot. He has an electric range. Elec. stove means generator, which is less idyllic at anchor. Solar won't cut it. I like propane. Or, maybe on the loop you're on shore power most nights?
Look at a 3 bedroom tug. There are a few out there. They are generally semi displacement hauls which is nice for speed or fuel saving like this Grand Banks.
It looks like Curtis Stokes has a 49' Grand Banks Classic 3 cabin available for $165k. The biggest problems for your use would be a lack of painting space and it's a 1982 for insurance. The twin Lehman engines also have over 10k hours on them. Stokes has quite a few boats listed that have done the loop, it's a nice research resource if nothing else.
Thanks so much for the info! We have been working with Curtis himself and one of his agents closer to us. They have been great and I highly recommend them!⚓️Mark
@@TheBoomershines No. I mean the insurance I have is for a 41. That is the builders stated length. But my true LOA with davit, swim step and bow pulpit is 46 or 47, length over all. I've always insured the hull length, not the Length Overall with attachments.
@@TheBoomershines Here's the calculation I found: Draft in Fresh Water = ( Sea Water Density / Fresh Water Density ) * Sea Water Draft. Water density is harder to calculate because water temp is a factor. Cold water is denser than warm water but GENERALLY what I've read is a boat with a 35 inch draft in salt water will have a 36 inch draft in fresh water. Personally, I would mentally use a "fudge factor" when underway. In the colder great Lakes I'd add 2 inches of draft, in the shallower inland waterways I might go to 3 or 4 inches. I say this not ever owning a boat but having been obsessed with doing the Great Loop for years and just recently came across this interesting bit of information. Hope this helps. I just recently found your channel and love it. Looking forward to hearing about the boat you put an offer in.
Grand Banks makes great boats and I love them, however, you should remain 41’ or less for the loop. The draft on the 52 once you load it will be sketchy in a lot of areas.
Thanks so much for the reply. We know we are increasing the difficulty level by going over 42 feet but we know it can be done and we are up for the challenge. That said, if you happen to know any great boats that are less than 42' and have three staterooms, please let us know. We just haven't found one yet.
My dad loves the GB Europa design because it’s “functional!” He’s an aeronautical Engineer and “functional” means “camping.” Also, after spending a few hours on that model boat, there is no waste of space. Everything is where it is for purpose, not visual effect. It’s the closest thing to a VW camper van as you can get!
Cinda here -- I've done the VW camper thing and have checked that off our list. But Mark will probably read this as music to his ears LOL
Ha! Mark here… as soon as you described it as a VW I knew it was doomed. Cinda has been a very patient wife living with our VW Westy “Oscar” for the past 5 years. I’ve leaned a few things in our 24 years of marriage… and living the VW camper of boats for a year plus would go directly against that learned wisdom. 🤣⚓️MB
You are a very wise man Mark Boomershine xoxo CB
The Boomershines I can already envision a GB Aleutian with “Lower The Boom,” sorry, with “SeaShine” on the transom! (You’re going to have fun with SeaShine over a VHF radio. Keep count of how many people reply with “She Shed.”). Thanks again, so much, for sharing your adventure.
@@TheBoomershines My (supportive) comments on your following videos keep being deleted. I can take a hint, so will unsubscribe. Best of luck on your adventure.
That's pretty big. I'm looking at a 46' GB Classic. I prefer it to the Europa design.
Love this review! I’m in Belfast! You must come visit and cruise Penobscot Bay!
Friends and I go out a lot. He has an electric range. Elec. stove means generator, which is less idyllic at anchor. Solar won't cut it. I like propane. Or, maybe on the loop you're on shore power most nights?
Look at a 3 bedroom tug. There are a few out there. They are generally semi displacement hauls which is nice for speed or fuel saving like this Grand Banks.
It looks like Curtis Stokes has a 49' Grand Banks Classic 3 cabin available for $165k. The biggest problems for your use would be a lack of painting space and it's a 1982 for insurance. The twin Lehman engines also have over 10k hours on them.
Stokes has quite a few boats listed that have done the loop, it's a nice research resource if nothing else.
Thanks so much for the info! We have been working with Curtis himself and one of his agents closer to us. They have been great and I highly recommend them!⚓️Mark
Europa refers to the fact that it is a sedan style boat with no aft cabin. I do not think it has anything to do with the width of the house.
Sorry... didn't mean for it to imply that. Just the inherent nature of the design. Thanks for the clarification and for tuning in! ⚓️Mark
Would not go with LOA for insurance. Have never done that myself. A 58 is exponentially larger than a 52 by volume.
Do you mean LWL? 😎
@@TheBoomershines No. I mean the insurance I have is for a 41. That is the builders stated length. But my true LOA with davit, swim step and bow pulpit is 46 or 47, length over all. I've always insured the hull length, not the Length Overall with attachments.
Check out the helmsman 43 nice boat for the great loop
Will do!
Hatteras 😊
We still love the Hatteras. We just don't know if they are too old for us to get insurance.
@@TheBoomershines Also the Detroit Diesels making their smoke.
Your draft will increase when you move from salt water to fresh water in the Great Lakes. Salt water is more dense. Keep this in mind
Great point! Do you happen to know how much draft typically changes from salt to fresh water?
@@TheBoomershines Here's the calculation I found: Draft in Fresh Water = ( Sea Water Density / Fresh Water Density ) * Sea Water Draft. Water density is harder to calculate because water temp is a factor. Cold water is denser than warm water but GENERALLY what I've read is a boat with a 35 inch draft in salt water will have a 36 inch draft in fresh water. Personally, I would mentally use a "fudge factor" when underway. In the colder great Lakes I'd add 2 inches of draft, in the shallower inland waterways I might go to 3 or 4 inches. I say this not ever owning a boat but having been obsessed with doing the Great Loop for years and just recently came across this interesting bit of information. Hope this helps. I just recently found your channel and love it. Looking forward to hearing about the boat you put an offer in.
Grand Banks makes great boats and I love them, however, you should remain 41’ or less for the loop. The draft on the 52 once you load it will be sketchy in a lot of areas.
Thanks so much for the reply. We know we are increasing the difficulty level by going over 42 feet but we know it can be done and we are up for the challenge. That said, if you happen to know any great boats that are less than 42' and have three staterooms, please let us know. We just haven't found one yet.
Check out a Great Harbour
Very functional boats!
I would think new electronics would cost a fortune. I’m not a fan of the lower level at all
Me neither! LOL CB
I’ve definitely seen better examples of 52’ Grand Banks for sale. Da Tiki Mon is just tired looking.