E87: Free Speech or Hate Speech? Gaza, Antisemitism and Islamophobia

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  • @larsthorwald3338
    @larsthorwald3338 10 місяців тому +10

    The courage of Iris Hefets and people liker her is the only thing that gives me hope for the future of civilized society.

  • @MC-vr3yh
    @MC-vr3yh 10 місяців тому +15

    I could listen to Yanis knowledge sharing endlessly. He is a remarkable person.

  • @immikhanUK
    @immikhanUK 10 місяців тому +20

    Thoughtful and informed analysis. Yanis always hits the spot, What a pleasure!

  • @taylorh520
    @taylorh520 10 місяців тому +13

    All human lives are important: Israelis . Palestinians, Ukrainians
    1 month Gaza War 4000+ Children killed,
    10,000+ Civilians killed
    20 mon Ukraine War 600 Children killed,
    9600 Civilians killed

    • @mamamia6925
      @mamamia6925 10 місяців тому

      Why weren't they important in the Jemen war? It's bullshit to say all lives are important but caring about one war 1000 times more than another.

    • @Elizabeth-bz2mi
      @Elizabeth-bz2mi 10 місяців тому

      @@mamamia6925 Thank you! I agree that it's important to turn the world's attention onto all of the wars (i.e. war crimes).Yet I am also concerned that 'calling bullshit' (literally, in this case) serves polarization more than it serves conversation. I hope we can work together more, not less.

  • @kencoutts2051
    @kencoutts2051 10 місяців тому +4

    Well said, sanity from all.
    Lucas, im with you.
    Great insight from all . Thanks.
    I'm from Scotland, and feel anxious, I cannot sleep, I'm not even in Gaza.

    • @mamamia6925
      @mamamia6925 10 місяців тому +1

      maybe you watch too muchTV...

    • @yaldaattai8342
      @yaldaattai8342 10 місяців тому +1

      But you are from the same human family so pray for all the innocent people who are once again being ethnically cleansed and it’s time for the world to wake up and stand up against oppression 💐💖

  • @Plessners
    @Plessners 10 місяців тому +6

    I really appreciate your work, DiEM25. Thank you. As a German, it is genuinely frustrating to follow the debates and "discussions" in mainstream German media. It seems that differing opinions are not welcome. I agree with the analysis of a hostile and exclusionary behavior towards Muslims and Arabs, which is often implicit if not explicit, as well as with all the other points raised. There appears to be a substantial barrier that dictates which resources are allowed for analysis and which are not.
    Lately, there has been a negative sentiment towards leftist intellectuals, such as Zizek and Butler, whose arguments are never met or discussed. Instead, they are dismissed as misled deviants from the very start. I believe that most German citizens are unaware of the reports made by many credible human rights associations, let alone the numerous Israeli ones that criticize and point out the criminal actions of the State of Israel.
    Furthermore, I don't believe that any solution to this conflict can be found through further aggression from both sides, although I recognize that it's easier said than done. However, I do think that if we only accept the narrative of one side, in this case, the IDF's and the State of Israel, without even acknowledging the possibility of a different perspective, there can be no hope for a solution. At this point, I don't even demand that all those talk show hosts, columnists, politicians, etc., fully embrace the criticism raised in this video. I simply wish that they would acknowledge its existence as a legitimate argument that requires a response.

  • @mindofown
    @mindofown 10 місяців тому +5

    Excellent explanation by Yanis on the history of Jewish success in commerce. May I also ad that non-antisemitic anger towards Israel is its behaviour towards Palestinians. They have committed this famous Error = "Be careful if you are someone that has to fight Monsters lest you become a Monster Yourself".

  • @brianwheeldon4643
    @brianwheeldon4643 10 місяців тому +12

    Thanks DiEM25 for inviting Iris (?) to speak on the podcast. Her talk was illuminating, helpful and insightful. She clearly explained the situation in Berlin and likely wider Germany. I'm so sorry that nationalism has vomited up nazis into society and the German Parliament. It's been bubbling away for decades. How can this train of thinking, ideology, be peacefully managed out of a population and understood? Is it centuries of religious history and belief, is it a failure of education, or no education, is it culture (whatever that implies)? AppreciativeThanks

    • @mobilusinmobili8321
      @mobilusinmobili8321 10 місяців тому

      So why would you defend 1slam who has been nationalist for far longer?

    • @DrDanQ92
      @DrDanQ92 10 місяців тому

      It's my belief that it's mostly about two things; economic hardship and mass immigration. It is also my belief that they have it entirely wrong why these two exist, why they are rising and how to solve it. Both of these issues are at the core of the new "populist" parties.

  • @KhalidMedani-fs8us
    @KhalidMedani-fs8us 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much. I am an Arab and I appreciate you.

  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre 10 місяців тому +5

    Israel is imperialism. And as long as there is capitalism there will be more attempts at more Israels, because even an attempt with an accompanying war will generate surplus value. This is especially true in a time where finding more markets and revenue streams gets harder and harder.

  • @davidmilton5887
    @davidmilton5887 10 місяців тому +4

    Semetic:
    relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

  • @oezibanana8664
    @oezibanana8664 10 місяців тому +1

    Good talk!

  • @dvegule920
    @dvegule920 10 місяців тому +1

    It's bad, very bad in Germany right now. Listen everyone, we must talk about German racism in general. Me from the eastern part of Europe (which we call Central Europe actually) am regularly sent to where I come from because I express my opinion or even insist on my rights. That's because they notice my accent.

  • @rhonda6791
    @rhonda6791 10 місяців тому +1

    This was an important very good show. Thank you all.

  • @yaldaattai8342
    @yaldaattai8342 10 місяців тому

    Thank you and bless you all for the amazing work you are doing as a fellow human being who believe in justice, truth and dignity of all 💐💐💐 From the river to the sea PALESTINE will be FREE 🕊️🇵🇸💖🇦🇫🕊️ sending you all lots of love and prayers 🤲🏼💖💕

  • @lupemerrit
    @lupemerrit 10 місяців тому +2

    I agree with the views expounded and thanks for the good work.

  • @PrayerPartnerExtraordinaire
    @PrayerPartnerExtraordinaire 10 місяців тому +5

    How could there be such a disconnect? Oh yeah insider trading. Gotta make them sales!

  • @delfimoliveira8883
    @delfimoliveira8883 10 місяців тому +2

    I've just heard about the incredible position of Bernie Sanders.
    He is failing whit the duty of solidarity.

  • @timmoore3188
    @timmoore3188 10 місяців тому +2

    My mother, a second gen Polish/American, explained the history with the Jews in Europe much like Yanis described it. There was resentment at being poor and the peasants of which my ancestors were used the Jews as a scapegoat, instead of blaming the system itself for their woes. I see the same attitude now in Israel. The Israelis are defending a failed democracy and you here them blaming any sort of lack of progress on peace on the Palestinians

  • @maruenahmedbaroud761
    @maruenahmedbaroud761 9 місяців тому

    Respect Broo..4 Ur.s..Honest and Just oversight..Guidamce 2 U2

  • @claranordblom8968
    @claranordblom8968 10 місяців тому

    Thank you❤

  • @kristhors1
    @kristhors1 10 місяців тому

    Iris Hefets - what a wonderful woman.

  • @claudelebel49
    @claudelebel49 10 місяців тому +2

    There might be less anti-semitism if it weren't for the terrible treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli apartheid state.

    • @davidmilton5887
      @davidmilton5887 10 місяців тому

      Semitic:
      relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

    • @ringostar4904
      @ringostar4904 10 місяців тому

      Well said

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 10 місяців тому

      Jews have been kicked of everywhere they have lived …..?

    • @Jkjoannaki
      @Jkjoannaki 10 місяців тому

      Settlers. No one likes settlers. And religion plays a huge role here. This is a civil war within the Semitic race for religious tyranny by all sides [Christianity (both catholic french in lebanon and orthodox greek), Judaism and Islam].

  • @sydneymorey6059
    @sydneymorey6059 10 місяців тому

    Keep it up good people, the message broadens, cheers.

  • @StelaSabbagh-di6zu
    @StelaSabbagh-di6zu 10 місяців тому +4

    Beautiful lady.... beautiful soul...thank you.

  • @sherylhay13
    @sherylhay13 10 місяців тому +2

    I believe Iaraels brutal behaviour is stoking antisemitism

    • @davidmilton5887
      @davidmilton5887 10 місяців тому +1

      Semitic:
      relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 10 місяців тому

      Also, there must be a reason Jews have been kicked out of everywhere they have lived ?

  • @thecupandmug6745
    @thecupandmug6745 10 місяців тому

    For the record, the estimated indigenous population of Australia at the time of colonization by the British (1788) was somewhere between 300,000 and 950, 000 people (not 5 million). The concept of 'terra nullius' was not used in exactly the way claimed here.

  • @nimrodgez-haver933
    @nimrodgez-haver933 10 місяців тому +1

    The land of Israel before its declaration always had some Jews living on it. It wasn't a land without a people, there were arabs and Jews living along side each other.

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 10 місяців тому

      And ? Zionism’s crimes have been clearly documented and the list is very very long

  • @KayaGrimoire
    @KayaGrimoire 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the based coverage of both sides

  • @pirkkoheiske2069
    @pirkkoheiske2069 10 місяців тому +1

    You had a very interesting program, and I felt especially impressed by this Israelian Jewish psychoanalyst. But I didn’t succeed in picking her name. If I could find it, I would love to collect information about what she may have written (in German or in English) and which is tje organization she represents. Is it possible for you to answer my message and give her name?

    • @mkh4lili
      @mkh4lili 10 місяців тому

      Iris Hefets!

  • @sheilamarler2439
    @sheilamarler2439 10 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @JP-JustSayin
    @JP-JustSayin 10 місяців тому

    The free speech at the margins needs extra protection ... the same way the human rights of people at the margins need extra protection.

  • @farjanabegum7906
    @farjanabegum7906 10 місяців тому +1

    genocide must stop Palestine must be free but no hate to the Jews people. prayers for peace n justice.

  • @empirelee7676
    @empirelee7676 10 місяців тому

    Is there any member left in DiEM at this point? This organisation is losing members quicker than it can make up new once on their website.

  • @RadagastilBruno666
    @RadagastilBruno666 10 місяців тому

    The liberal regime in all own brutality...

  • @antonyliberopoulos933
    @antonyliberopoulos933 10 місяців тому

    Penetrating remarks and ideas from Iris and Yanis. Thank you Diem25.

  • @alicianieto2822
    @alicianieto2822 10 місяців тому +2

    Where are the "rise of antisemitism" statistics coming from though? Certain polls tend to equate negative views on Israel as a political or geographical project ( which are certainly soaring) with antisemitism against the religion/etnicity, which makes me skeptical( dangerous in itself, I know).

    • @TheChromanoise
      @TheChromanoise 10 місяців тому

      They come from Hamas. So they are very reliable.

    • @atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891
      @atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891 10 місяців тому

      Listen to the Jews. If u want to know about antisemitism, just listen

    • @alicianieto2822
      @alicianieto2822 10 місяців тому

      @@atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891 I am married to a jew, dude. That says nothing about statistical gathering. As for his opinions on this data, he is even more skeptical than me so I am trying to be open minded.

    • @davidmilton5887
      @davidmilton5887 10 місяців тому

      Semitic:
      relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

    • @empirelee7676
      @empirelee7676 10 місяців тому

      When Jews getting attacked because Israel does something. Than this is antisemitism. Its not so hard to understand.

  • @annabaranska2280
    @annabaranska2280 10 місяців тому

    As a Polish woman my Polish grandfather faughtvsgainst the nazis in Polsnd

  • @annabaranska2280
    @annabaranska2280 10 місяців тому

    What pogroms in z Poland ? The most kom unity of Jews was in Poland ? What are you talking about?

  • @MeleanDialogue
    @MeleanDialogue 10 місяців тому

    somebody please enlighten me. Is "racism" about genetics? (if we compare blood tests and see that there is no evidence of differences). Is it about being true to a particular religious doctrine? I don't think so. Is it about belonging to a group which gives me benefits and excludes others?, aha!!

  • @jerrybauer8108
    @jerrybauer8108 10 місяців тому

    Is Germany in any way the land of the free and the home of the brave?

  • @johnvodopia6659
    @johnvodopia6659 10 місяців тому

    hate speech is free speech, hands down. But suggesting that the israelis should stop killing babies to keep the stolen territories is neither hate speech not anti-simetic speech

  • @rational-public-discourse
    @rational-public-discourse 10 місяців тому

    This conversation is a distraction. Here is a sample of the email that I sent to the White House just now as a U.S. citizen.
    Dear Mr. President,
    On the issue of the Palestinian people and the Palestinian cause, the U.S. is also responsible for the genocidal process that is now seen clearly in Gaza since Israel is nothing more than a satellite state that we placed there for our own imperial ambitions and to expand U.S. global power and domination. We should take the side of the Palestinian people, force Israel out of the territories altogether as much as we possibly can, and begin to rebuild and invest in Palestine to improve the quality of human living there.
    Some critics say that you are simply unable to help bring about a new kind of world which does not rely on supplying conflicts for the defense industry and our government to exploit. This madness has to stop, and you should be man enough to take some of the blame, listen to the people who elected you, and do whatever necessary to bring about a radical change in the nature and direction of our foreign policy. Thank you for your time, and have a good day.

  • @nimrodgez-haver933
    @nimrodgez-haver933 10 місяців тому

    Judaism also forbids interest.

  • @annabaranska2280
    @annabaranska2280 10 місяців тому

    The most Jews were on pre war Poland

  • @taylorh520
    @taylorh520 10 місяців тому

    I like the Mass media masquerade

  • @chris-co3ej
    @chris-co3ej 10 місяців тому

    The accent made her too hard to understand.

  • @leonardmead1425
    @leonardmead1425 10 місяців тому +1

    Looks like it smells like it lollollollollollollo

  • @jonathanhartley3454
    @jonathanhartley3454 10 місяців тому

    there is no such thing as hate speech, there is only speech that you hate

  • @namidehya4372
    @namidehya4372 10 місяців тому

    Fed up of listening to perpetual victimhood.