Exactly, within the confines of the everyday cult life we experienced, we could on the other hand gain experience / training of reading / wording / language at an early age, to a degree. For families who may be from a less educated populus / background, this may be even an “upgrade”, as they experience it. Still it’s fair to say that it wasn’t worth it, even with this one positive reason.
Harrison is SO well spoken, intelligent, logical and practical in his reasoning. It's incredibly admirable and inspiring! I've been subscribed to him for a few weeks now and I can't wait to see where his content goes.
And now he can be rognised for his wonderful qualities as an actual person rather than 'servant of Jehovah' I'm so excited to see him grow into himself even more :)
He is a young man that was in an occult. Like Darwin was a 22 year old theologian that decided we evolved. Kent Hovind has invited Harrison to debate Noahs Flood he has declined. This is sad and he us now causing peole to doubt and even more evil is born into the world. Trey Smith has great video's well researched with proof of a global flood as well. Do those of us that believe in an intellegent creator have all the answers? No but neither does Atheism but we have better answers if you really want the truth check out Trey Smith, Kent Hovind, Answers in Genesis.
"...more evil is born into the world"??? Sure, the 30,000 different religions in history were doing a great job limiting the good to evil ratio and Harrison's viewpoint on the flood has unprecedently changed everything for the future of the human race! What a narrow minded assumption!!!
an articulate young man with the intelligent capacity to be a scientist ( I think) but by the system he was trapped in condemned to scrap a living from manual work. there is nothing wrong with windowcleaning but is a waste of potential .
Lloyd, probably the best interview you’ve done, an amazingly intelligent articulate logical well spoken man, I hope there’s many JWs with doubt watching.
I first subscribed to Harrison’s channel three weeks ago - I was so taken with his refreshingly direct and scholarly approach - seldom have I ever heard such a young individual from a JW background have such a compelling mix of intelligence, interpersonal savvy, rapid-fire commentary (with all claims well backed up by references) and damn good looks. One of my very first thoughts was, ‘I wonder if Lloyd will notice Harrison and interview him?’ And now you have. It is a compelling exchange between two men who know their stuff and communicate with zest, humour and who don’t hold back. Harrison is so likeably onto it and his sudden emergence gives me hope that he will rapidly gain the attention of JW youth. You two gelled so well: the warmth and mutual respect were so evident. Another first class conversation Lloyd that shows you are so at the top of your game as it were. And how generous of you to give this rising star of UA-cam such a helpful platform.
Harrison has a serious demeanor. One sets up and pays attention. Factual and trying to be fair. JW org is a subculture within a culture with its own tokens and merits. Instead of college, Bethel, pioneer or ms, etc
Brilliant interview ❤️❤️❤️ Harrison should be destined for greater things apart from full time activism even though he is fantastic. Harrison Get yourself out there and do whatever career you feel like doing because your intelligent, funny, and the skies the limit for you. Enjoy life. 😘
yes, it’s mindblowing how great he can articulate, can’t he? i hope he’ll get an opportunity to- it would be a pity if not... i see great thinks coming for him.
The most frightening request for me, “can I have five minutes in the back room”. Four Elders and one teenage me. Thank you so much for all you are doing for all of us! Sincerely, Carm
Wonderful interview. It’s so terrible that this is a group that makes you wage a war within yourself....shall I live my whole life as a lie and ignore what logic is telling me or will I live my life honestly and authentically but without any of the family and friends that we’ve spent our whole lives exclusively associating with. The toxicity of it all is mind blowing and exhausting.
I think they got rid of the book study because they need people to distrust each other and stay strongly aligned with the Borg. That doesn’t work when people actually know and like each other.
So glad you interviewed Harrison, Lloyd. Your channels are my favourite ex-JW UA-cam channels, I subscribe to both. And Harrison made me discover the NonStampCollector channel in a comment he made in his Flood video, so thank you for that, Harrison, a real gem (I laughed so much!). Harrison and Loyd, I really appreciate your logical arguments, sound research and exposition of the truth, delivered without bitterness or exaggerations. And Lloyd, you are a gifted journalist!
It's interesting how the Holy Spirit is credited for the appointments, yet that appointment doesn't automatically carry on to the next congregation. If they truly believed it was H.S. directing things the first time around, there would be no need for reappointments. They're basically admitting it's just a boys' club. Very nice interview.
Im the first to admit that I have a really short attention span. I until now have only managed to stay engaged and interested in Lloyds videos, for any length of time and now this guy has the esteemed privilege of being able to do the same.
It’s dangerous and threatening having a younger one who is of superior intelligence around you….you will lose you earned status, they will rise. Above you.
Telltale had a good analogy for money and power. Even though you push some out, the remaining ones are even more virulent in their devotion and will give even more money. Say you have 100 people give $1 50 leave but the remaining 50 give $3. You net more money overall.
Fantastic talk. I've been following Harrison Cother for some time. So intelligent, insightful, eloquent. It grieves me beyond words, that this exceptional young man was deprived of a higher education (window cleaner).
I have a great deal of admiration for Harrison. For someone so deeply into the religion and with a bright future in that, it is nothing short of remarkable that he had the strength of mind to extract himself from it. I think few people would have such strength and determination.
You both are so special to me. After a year and a half of silent disassociation, I finally sent my letter in. Your videos have given me leads on research and validation. I'm feeling brave, confident and not alone. I'm happy that I can make sure my future family and friends won't be introduced to such a horrible organization through me. I
Absolutely LOVED this interview! My two favourite activists Lloyd & Harrison! You are both amazing & your efforts are greatly appreciated! Harrison, what can I say, the nicest, kindest chap I'm proud to call my friend. Lloyd, thank you for supporting up & coming activists. The ex jw community needs you all! My fave interview so far... well apart from Lacie Jones' iv 😉 Xx
The meeting this week (March 29-Apr 4) says that if you feel indignation about wrongdoing in the BORG!! You're not Content with your position or privilege within YA, THEY LOVE TO DANGLE THAT CARROT!!
If you think there is something wrong with WT Society, but can't quite put your finger on it for years, remember. "If in doubt, do with out, trusts your instincts. Don't go crazy, just cool of and move away if you can. I have never regretted it, seriously much happier now. Thank you Lloyd and Harrison, powerful words, and all the best to everyone in leaving a cult. I am now in my 70's. I am one of the lucky ones.
Hi Harrison, I've enjoyed all your work so far, well done. By the way your "Good Morning" song was based on one of the same name and tune taken from- Singing in the rain, and sung by Debbie Reynolds. ( showing my age here) Keep up the good work. Sheila Yorkshire, 🇬🇧
Absolutely brilliant interview/video, so happy for Harrison finding freedom! I am so thrilled and cannot wait to hear more from him. Wishing him every success with his mission to wake up others too.
Oh Harrison, you are awesome.... you are so brilliant. We need Ex JW’s like you. Thanks so much for your desire to help people, you’re so sweet. Some times we need to make the sacrifices to save others, isn’t that the love we are taught to have, and then they don’t want us to really show it?
There was one sentence Harrison said that hit me in the gut as soon as the words were out of his mouth. It was where he was recounting how he had moved congregation and lost all privileges because he hadn’t been recommended by the previous congregation elders. “I was just like a sister!” It hit me hard because when I was in, obviously, I was one of those sisters. I was from a disadvantaged background, no men to ride on the coat-tails of in terms of an elder Dad, min servant bro or pioneer hubby. I pioneered, rejected the whole uni & further ed thing even though I was considered gifted enough to have been trained for scholarships for private education in the past. In that world I could have used those gifts... which instead I gifted to an organisation where I used them to the best of my ability. It’s always pained me looking back, partly because of the waste, but the most hurtful thing was the treatment I experienced as a young, bright, artistic, very ‘different’ person. I was doing everything ‘right’, but more heartbreakingly, I really felt it - it was genuine. Yet I could feel that treatment, that not being good enough, seen as equal - even to the wife of some bloke with a title, though both of them were doing sod all really beyond showing up at meetings and doing minimum door knocking. The glib sentence from Harrison suddenly brought it all back, explaining it. It wasn’t so much the words - it was there in the words, of course. But also in the way it was said - emphasis on the way ‘sister’ was said, the implication I received was ‘I was nothing! Just like a sister!’. The other thing was the unconscious way in which it was done, not thought about, not even on the radar. We all get different things from watching these videos. For some people it’s listening to stories of people with titles or privileges waking up and spilling the beans. I like that side, but there is something really painful and at times traumatic in a way that seems to be different to how I see videos describing the experience of being a JW. There were strong ones and the weak ones, but then what about the ones who were supposed to be viewed as weak, who deigned to crossover, but couldn’t be accepted as strong, between worlds? The men could be accepted as fatherless boys. The women couldn’t be. Strong women? Yikes. At the time I didn’t get it - I felt so alone, so unloved, so unloveable, so unliked. I didn’t understand why I was doing everything right. I was pretty enough to attract enough non-JWs but the JW lads were never interested. I was the one who was missed off the list at parties or pub meet ups. I only realised I could make superficial friends in late teens when I discovered other congregations and real friendships a long time after I left. The whole JW experience really damaged me. That doesn’t even factor in other layers of issues that high control religious groups foster due to their closed nature. People like me, and the underbelly - the social class considered ‘weak’ were the ones who were often the ones most at risk of harm and abuse. I moved around several congregations and within all knew of friends who had experienced abuse, or of convicted or unconvinced paedophiles. Most famously there was the Rubery congregation, which housed the paedophile Jaswan Patti who was featured on Panarama a few decades ago. I knew those boys, and how they were treated when they came forward. They were from ‘weak’ families so weren’t believed, including single parent families - those with ‘only sisters’ as their parent, who trusted this ministerial servant to take their sons under his wing on camping trips. The congregation itself had at least four other unconvicted people I could think of. It is strange that I never thought of the organisation as covering up abuse - I always thought of rogue elders not following what the society had said, to contact local authorities to deal with the legal side whilst they dealt with the spiritual. But then, I was ‘only a sister’. So... this video was interesting, but because of this, it grated on me, and it actually hurt a lot. Brought back a lot of really bad, hurt memories. I don’t think for a moment Harrison meant this, or is even aware of this side. Perspective is like an elephant, you can only see the part in front of you, and if you are at the front having fun feeding the elephant sweeties and the elephant is having fun eating them, you aren’t at the arse end where you see or experience the results of an upset stomach exploding onto you. Being ‘only a sister’ is like that, especially if you’ve given up a life at a young age for an environment that regards you as less than.
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 thank you ☺️ I do write academically, sometimes I’m paid to write articles/blogs, often I write bits and pieces for MH related activism. I’d love to do more though - to be able to motivate myself to sit and write each day. A respected publisher in Mental Health approached me about writing a book and I never followed it up. I love writing but I procrastinate, general anxiety of nothing in particular freezes me. You have reminded me that the potential book has taken shape - there is research I’ve done and am doing that will support it so I need to get a proposal in to the editor… if she even remembers me!!! 😂😂😂
Great question! I also pondered this and came up with these options: They’ve probably been eyeing off ‘the daughters of men’? Wrestling men all night before messing them up by ‘touching their hip sockets’? Possessing Donkeys Balam style? Maybe just binging ‘Game of Thrones’? Any other ideas come to mind?
@@toomyconne768 haha i came up with some real OG JWs. They would lament they couldn't have a bull horn or put thier foot in the door anymore. They practically are billboards now.
When I informed my family that I will disassociate and that I no longer believed in the GB an elder family member told me to "stop this foolishness" . Another told me there is no where else to go for spiritual food. Rather than prove me wrong my family wanted me to stay a JW even if it meant pretending. This is why I believe many JWs are complicit because they know its not the "truth" but are content to close their eyes and stay in the matrix.
I am an ex JW bible student of several years and oh boy do I have stories. I would love to help others in any way I can. My experience led me to an attempt to un-alive myself.
I used to refuse “back room” meetings. I used to say I am volunteering my time towards this organisation and I don’t want to be performance managed. Needless to say I never progressed, but so glad I didn’t climb the ladder.
Aged 41 January 2002 had to threaten elders of Horsforth Leeds congregation with the police if they didn't let me leave. I was on the point of physical violence.
Some creators just stand out and you realize immediately the channel is one of interest and solid integrity. Harrison fits this category and I'm sure he will be at the forefront in future. Thank you Lloyd for providing your support to him as it shows the passion and honesty you have to the cause.
So well spoken my brother Harrison. I will check your channel out for sure! We often talk about women being denied a voice in this organization, but of course in any patriarchal system, any man seeking authenticity is also chronically emasculated and will lose his voice as well.
ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT! Subscribed. Added to my notifications. Cannot wait to dive in! Thank you, Lloyd for the interview. Thank you, Harrison for sharing the brilliance of YOU! From America to you both 💜.
Love you guys 👊😜 you are prime time... i love listening to your videos while I’m cleaning windows 🤣 I by the way really like my job, a little less in the winter I’ll admit 😄 cheers and greetings from sweden 😁
Harrison, you are an inspiration to me. I had not your courage or words to relay what I new in my heart for years as to why I could never be a Jehovah's Witness! LLOYD thank you for the Harrison interview and for bringing forth what we all need to hear!
The JW members in my area seem mostly to be not overly educated. One would think the organization would have leaped at a chance to promote and benefit from the superior abilities displayed by both Lloyd and Harrison.
Harrison is delightful and very brave. He is a great inspiration to me, and just what I needed to hear and I'm sure he is and will continue to be an inspiration for many others, too. Thank you, Lloyd for having him on your show! It is also wonderful that you are there for him to give him support and encouragement on his journey into activism. It goes to show what a beautiful and humble person you are in that instead of seeing him as a competitor you want to strengthen him as an ally. It totally warms my heart. THANK YOU!
This sounds like my friend's dad, he sat down and we looked over the cases and we came out still friends. He said that conversation had him thinking about what he believed and how he felt about. When I listened to this and it reminds me of how we both just sat down. He said he started to read my own notes on the issues
Thank you Lloyd for having Mr. Harrison talk on your outstanding X-JW channel today. ever since I first started to view Mr. Harrison on his very own X-JW channel called ( the truth hurts,) a few weeks ago, this young man has shown to me his outstanding and exceptional way of expressing his thoughts and explaining facts with many hours of research, to back up his views. I hope you will have him come back to visit your channel from time to time in the future as well, BOTH your X-JW channels bring out so many false disparities that the Watchtower JW Society teaches as all true , when we now know are totally false .
The fact that my grandma said I must be getting my information from UA-cam when I refused her invitation to the memorial is proof enough for me that y'all are doing a great job. I was insulted though. My grandma knows I love to read! 😂 I get my info from books, though I will watch a video and then go back it up with resources.
How does Lloyd only have 83k subs and Telltale has 200k+ and Jimmy Snow has 400k? Nothing against those other two guys but Lloyd has been on Leah Remini’s show.
Brilliant interview Lloyd with Harrison. One point, doesn’t Harrison’s elder father think Armageddon is just round the corner, so promising to leave his business to Harrison in 10 years time wouldn’t actually happen (new order).
You know, he probably didn't even think about it as deeply as we on the outside would. I say that because I remember my dad talking about his plans to retire. That was about 6 years ago. He's officially going to retire tomorrow. But in the meantime, he is and was still talking about "Armageddon being right around the corner". We see the disconnect, but they don't.
Just listening to Harrison describe the discord between the two households of his parents, reminded me of the double life in the home where I was brought up, there was one image for the Brothers of harmony and the total opposite when the doors were closed of abuse ridicule and anger, this is my first comment after having listened to many interviews. I ran away from a broken abusive supposedly righteous household when I was 17, I’m now 58 and the sad fact is nothing has changed in all those years. They try to indoctrinate into you that everyone in the world are Satan’s people, but it took years for me to understand what it’s like to be in a real family that values you loves you unconditionally and is always there for you no matter what, so the more people that can come forward like you Lloyd and Harrison and tell it for what it is the better Thank you
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was great listening to you Lloyd and the great encouragement you are giving Harrison. You will be a great team following in your footsteps.
Thanks for having me on the show Lloyd and providing the opportunity to do my first interview since leaving. Thank you all for your support!😊
Your content is so deep, real and important. Just left this summer with 20 other Danes 🇩🇰😳it's hard but freeing
Great gestures. The min school taught you well.
@@jullemoe you left in a group of 20? Extraordinary! Congratulations to you all!!!
Respect!
Your content is amazing and will save lives!
The organisation has lost two excellent public speakers in Harrison and Lloyd! Their loss is our gain. Excellent interview, thanks guys.
I was thinking the same thing 👌
At least we learned to be excellent public speakers at such an early age. lol
Exactly, within the confines of the everyday cult life we experienced, we could on the other hand gain experience / training of reading / wording / language at an early age, to a degree. For families who may be from a less educated populus / background, this may be even an “upgrade”, as they experience it. Still it’s fair to say that it wasn’t worth it, even with this one positive reason.
I thought exactly the same.
Harrison is SO well spoken, intelligent, logical and practical in his reasoning. It's incredibly admirable and inspiring! I've been subscribed to him for a few weeks now and I can't wait to see where his content goes.
Not to mention, he’s quite fit!
@@CJCappella lol yes easy on the eyes don’t hurt either ;)
And now he can be rognised for his wonderful qualities as an actual person rather than 'servant of Jehovah' I'm so excited to see him grow into himself even more :)
He is a young man that was in an occult. Like Darwin was a 22 year old theologian that decided we evolved. Kent Hovind has invited Harrison to debate Noahs Flood he has declined. This is sad and he us now causing peole to doubt and even more evil is born into the world. Trey Smith has great video's well researched with proof of a global flood as well. Do those of us that believe in an intellegent creator have all the answers? No but neither does Atheism but we have better answers if you really want the truth check out Trey Smith, Kent Hovind, Answers in Genesis.
"...more evil is born into the world"??? Sure, the 30,000 different religions in history were doing a great job limiting the good to evil ratio and Harrison's viewpoint on the flood has unprecedently changed everything for the future of the human race! What a narrow minded assumption!!!
First time commenting using my real name and my real profile pic. 💕 love you all so much
welcome Wendi! 🤩 dito
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@@Beleen-gw3vw hi there!
believer or atheist, the most important thing is to love ourselves unconditionally despite our differences.
I am the Cosmos in human form.
Yeah sure, most important thing for Trump is love himself unconditionally! Same for those child abusers in the org. Great advice there bud
Fair play to Harrison! Love the chemistry between you two, definitely want to see future collaborations happen!
At this stage, I can't see future collaborations happening.
Harrison is so clever and articulate .
This wonderful and articulate young man is going to be a potent weapon against Watchtower. He draws me to attend to his every word.
an articulate young man with the intelligent capacity to be a scientist ( I think) but by the system he was trapped in condemned to scrap a living from manual work.
there is nothing wrong with windowcleaning but is a waste of potential .
Lloyd, probably the best interview you’ve done, an amazingly intelligent articulate logical well spoken man, I hope there’s many JWs with doubt watching.
I am a big fan of Harrison's work. His videos are so well done and his effort is definitely appreciated
I first subscribed to Harrison’s channel three weeks ago - I was so taken with his refreshingly direct and scholarly approach - seldom have I ever heard such a young individual from a JW background have such a compelling mix of intelligence, interpersonal savvy, rapid-fire commentary (with all claims well backed up by references) and damn good looks. One of my very first thoughts was, ‘I wonder if Lloyd will notice Harrison and interview him?’
And now you have. It is a compelling exchange between two men who know their stuff and communicate with zest, humour and who don’t hold back.
Harrison is so likeably onto it and his sudden emergence gives me hope that he will rapidly gain the attention of JW youth. You two gelled so well: the warmth and mutual respect were so evident.
Another first class conversation Lloyd that shows you are so at the top of your game as it were. And how generous of you to give this rising star of UA-cam such a helpful platform.
absolutely!!!
can’t wait to see both of them working together
@@Beleen-gw3vw I don't think they will be working together again.
He sounds like such a pleasant person. Nice interview
Harrison has a serious demeanor. One sets up and pays attention. Factual and trying to be fair. JW org is a subculture within a culture with its own tokens and merits. Instead of college, Bethel, pioneer or ms, etc
Great observation. I find it interesting that so many former JW going in to film and television.
Critical thinking without fear reveals the truth.
@@JamesRichardWiley
Bingo! 😉
Brilliant interview ❤️❤️❤️
Harrison should be destined for greater things apart from full time activism even though he is fantastic. Harrison Get yourself out there and do whatever career you feel like doing because your intelligent, funny, and the skies the limit for you. Enjoy life. 😘
yes, it’s mindblowing how great he can articulate, can’t he? i hope he’ll get an opportunity to- it would be a pity if not... i see great thinks coming for him.
What a wonderful and articulate young man. I’m so very proud of you Harrison xx
The most frightening request for me, “can I have five minutes in the back room”. Four Elders and one teenage me. Thank you so much for all you are doing for all of us! Sincerely, Carm
Incredible video Lloyd, one of your best. Your patience and ability to allow your visitor to express themselves fully is one of your greatest gifts.
Certainties lock us in, ignorance makes us stagnant, but doubt makes us progress.
Wonderful interview. It’s so terrible that this is a group that makes you wage a war within yourself....shall I live my whole life as a lie and ignore what logic is telling me or will I live my life honestly and authentically but without any of the family and friends that we’ve spent our whole lives exclusively associating with. The toxicity of it all is mind blowing and exhausting.
Power over others must be absolute.
Sounds like human nature.
Both Lloyd and Harrison together are a force..... 😂👍
Brilliant interview Lloyd,thanks for sharing Harrison Cother with us all. What a wonderful human being.Thank you both.👍❤️
I am bowled over by Lloyds work so now there is Harrison too! Yes you dear sweet young man.....
you certainly did it justice!
I love Harris channel, very well presented arguements with cited source and evidence to back them up. Cant say the same about Cultower!
Love that name wish i had thought of that
Cultower👍great and accurate term there!
Trees
I think they got rid of the book study because they need people to distrust each other and stay strongly aligned with the Borg. That doesn’t work when people actually know and like each other.
Im also a fan of his channel. Excellent breakdowns and very insightful.
Yesssss I love Harrison’s story! And his videos are so well put together. He’s like a Lloyd Evans mini me 😁
So glad you interviewed Harrison, Lloyd. Your channels are my favourite ex-JW UA-cam channels, I subscribe to both. And Harrison made me discover the NonStampCollector channel in a comment he made in his Flood video, so thank you for that, Harrison, a real gem (I laughed so much!). Harrison and Loyd, I really appreciate your logical arguments, sound research and exposition of the truth, delivered without bitterness or exaggerations. And Lloyd, you are a gifted journalist!
Two incredible apostates. Thank you both for your amazing work! ❤️
Best interview I've seen on your channel. Harrison is an inspiration, years ahead of his age!
I agree so interesting
It's interesting how the Holy Spirit is credited for the appointments, yet that appointment doesn't automatically carry on to the next congregation. If they truly believed it was H.S. directing things the first time around, there would be no need for reappointments. They're basically admitting it's just a boys' club.
Very nice interview.
Excellent point 👌
The HS can direct them to appoint an elder, but they can’t get correct doctrines from the HS.
Im the first to admit that I have a really short attention span. I until now have only managed to stay engaged and interested in Lloyds videos, for any length of time and now this guy has the esteemed privilege of being able to do the same.
Don't usually comment twice but Harrison just made me cry. So strong and eloquent❤
What an articulate young man. Such an incredible story. I'm now a subscriber.
Lloyd and Harrison, the Dynamic Duo Apostates. You guys are magnificent. Keep doing what you do because it's working!!! Many hugs!
51:44 that Lett impression was incredible.
Watchtower Elders sure has a compulsion for pushing away good hard working kind hearted people.
Power and money
not love.
@@JamesRichardWiley
The power I understand. Please explain the money aspect of pushing people away?
It’s dangerous and threatening having a younger one who is of superior intelligence around you….you will lose you earned status, they will rise. Above you.
Telltale had a good analogy for money and power.
Even though you push some out, the remaining ones are even more virulent in their devotion and will give even more money.
Say you have 100 people give $1
50 leave but the remaining 50 give $3. You net more money overall.
Energy from a brilliant young man is felt through the screen! Thank you for being another resource - a great one♥
Fantastic talk. I've been following Harrison Cother for some time. So intelligent, insightful, eloquent. It grieves me beyond words, that this exceptional young man was deprived of a higher education (window cleaner).
I have a great deal of admiration for Harrison. For someone so deeply into the religion and with a bright future in that, it is nothing short of remarkable that he had the strength of mind to extract himself from it. I think few people would have such strength and determination.
Hey Loyd,
Thank you for introducing Harrison! This was one of your best shows ever🙏👌✌️
If Harrison Cother floated on the stock exchange, I would buy some shares.
Buy the dip! Lol
Harrison stonks
Harrison coin
both are blowing up....yeeeeewwwh
Apostate bubble ain't ever gunna pop.
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@@tammyg8031 As in the apostates who are out won't go back once they know the truth.
This was an incredible interview! Thank you both so much for your activism. Harrison’s channel is incredibly well thought out and so sincere!
AWESOME!!!! This was a gift from the universe
Lloyd and Harrison I enjoyed this interview very much. Two intelligent and charismatic persons👏👏
Excellent content. Well presented researched eloquent. Really enjoyed my mini binge ☺
A remarkable and inspiring young man - thank you. The Truth Hurts - great name for Harrison's channel.
Not surprised you want to mentor this guy I’ve said all along he’s Lloyd 2!!!
You both are so special to me. After a year and a half of silent disassociation, I finally sent my letter in. Your videos have given me leads on research and validation. I'm feeling brave, confident and not alone. I'm happy that I can make sure my future family and friends won't be introduced to such a horrible organization through me. I
Harrison Cother is good also. He presents things logically.
He is so well spoken!
So on point. Glad for the real awakening
He just talks well the info he presented on Evolution was bogus. I presented facts no reply matter of fact no one replied that supported it.
@@stackmosayless-1669 well what did you say.
What did he say that was bogus?
@@stackmosayless-1669 What did he say about Evolution that was bogus? I'm curious.
Absolutely LOVED this interview! My two favourite activists Lloyd & Harrison! You are both amazing & your efforts are greatly appreciated!
Harrison, what can I say, the nicest, kindest chap I'm proud to call my friend. Lloyd, thank you for supporting up & coming activists. The ex jw community needs you all!
My fave interview so far... well apart from Lacie Jones' iv 😉
Xx
The meeting this week (March 29-Apr 4) says that if you feel indignation about wrongdoing in the BORG!! You're not Content with your position or privilege within YA, THEY LOVE TO DANGLE THAT CARROT!!
If you think there is something wrong with WT Society, but can't quite put your finger on it for years, remember. "If in doubt, do with out, trusts your instincts. Don't go crazy, just cool of and move away if you can. I have never regretted it, seriously much happier now. Thank you Lloyd and Harrison, powerful words, and all the best to everyone in leaving a cult. I am now in my 70's. I am one of the lucky ones.
Hi Harrison, I've enjoyed all your work so far, well done. By the way your "Good Morning" song was based on one of the same name and tune taken from- Singing in the rain, and sung by Debbie Reynolds. ( showing my age here) Keep up the good work. Sheila Yorkshire, 🇬🇧
Absolutely brilliant interview/video, so happy for Harrison finding freedom! I am so thrilled and cannot wait to hear more from him. Wishing him every success with his mission to wake up others too.
Oh Harrison, you are awesome.... you are so brilliant. We need Ex JW’s like you. Thanks so much for your desire to help people, you’re so sweet. Some times we need to make the sacrifices to save others, isn’t that the love we are taught to have, and then they don’t want us to really show it?
There was one sentence Harrison said that hit me in the gut as soon as the words were out of his mouth. It was where he was recounting how he had moved congregation and lost all privileges because he hadn’t been recommended by the previous congregation elders. “I was just like a sister!” It hit me hard because when I was in, obviously, I was one of those sisters. I was from a disadvantaged background, no men to ride on the coat-tails of in terms of an elder Dad, min servant bro or pioneer hubby. I pioneered, rejected the whole uni & further ed thing even though I was considered gifted enough to have been trained for scholarships for private education in the past. In that world I could have used those gifts... which instead I gifted to an organisation where I used them to the best of my ability. It’s always pained me looking back, partly because of the waste, but the most hurtful thing was the treatment I experienced as a young, bright, artistic, very ‘different’ person. I was doing everything ‘right’, but more heartbreakingly, I really felt it - it was genuine. Yet I could feel that treatment, that not being good enough, seen as equal - even to the wife of some bloke with a title, though both of them were doing sod all really beyond showing up at meetings and doing minimum door knocking. The glib sentence from Harrison suddenly brought it all back, explaining it. It wasn’t so much the words - it was there in the words, of course. But also in the way it was said - emphasis on the way ‘sister’ was said, the implication I received was ‘I was nothing! Just like a sister!’. The other thing was the unconscious way in which it was done, not thought about, not even on the radar.
We all get different things from watching these videos. For some people it’s listening to stories of people with titles or privileges waking up and spilling the beans. I like that side, but there is something really painful and at times traumatic in a way that seems to be different to how I see videos describing the experience of being a JW. There were strong ones and the weak ones, but then what about the ones who were supposed to be viewed as weak, who deigned to crossover, but couldn’t be accepted as strong, between worlds? The men could be accepted as fatherless boys. The women couldn’t be. Strong women? Yikes. At the time I didn’t get it - I felt so alone, so unloved, so unloveable, so unliked. I didn’t understand why I was doing everything right. I was pretty enough to attract enough non-JWs but the JW lads were never interested. I was the one who was missed off the list at parties or pub meet ups. I only realised I could make superficial friends in late teens when I discovered other congregations and real friendships a long time after I left. The whole JW experience really damaged me. That doesn’t even factor in other layers of issues that high control religious groups foster due to their closed nature. People like me, and the underbelly - the social class considered ‘weak’ were the ones who were often the ones most at risk of harm and abuse. I moved around several congregations and within all knew of friends who had experienced abuse, or of convicted or unconvinced paedophiles. Most famously there was the Rubery congregation, which housed the paedophile Jaswan Patti who was featured on Panarama a few decades ago. I knew those boys, and how they were treated when they came forward. They were from ‘weak’ families so weren’t believed, including single parent families - those with ‘only sisters’ as their parent, who trusted this ministerial servant to take their sons under his wing on camping trips. The congregation itself had at least four other unconvicted people I could think of. It is strange that I never thought of the organisation as covering up abuse - I always thought of rogue elders not following what the society had said, to contact local authorities to deal with the legal side whilst they dealt with the spiritual. But then, I was ‘only a sister’. So... this video was interesting, but because of this, it grated on me, and it actually hurt a lot. Brought back a lot of really bad, hurt memories. I don’t think for a moment Harrison meant this, or is even aware of this side. Perspective is like an elephant, you can only see the part in front of you, and if you are at the front having fun feeding the elephant sweeties and the elephant is having fun eating them, you aren’t at the arse end where you see or experience the results of an upset stomach exploding onto you. Being ‘only a sister’ is like that, especially if you’ve given up a life at a young age for an environment that regards you as less than.
You should write. You have a real gift, and your voice is important and should be heard.
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 thank you ☺️ I do write academically, sometimes I’m paid to write articles/blogs, often I write bits and pieces for MH related activism. I’d love to do more though - to be able to motivate myself to sit and write each day. A respected publisher in Mental Health approached me about writing a book and I never followed it up. I love writing but I procrastinate, general anxiety of nothing in particular freezes me. You have reminded me that the potential book has taken shape - there is research I’ve done and am doing that will support it so I need to get a proposal in to the editor… if she even remembers me!!! 😂😂😂
Anyone else wondering what the Angels have been doing the last year since they haven't been able to direct the preaching work? 🤔
Great question! I also pondered this and came up with these options:
They’ve probably been eyeing off ‘the daughters of men’?
Wrestling men all night before messing them up by ‘touching their hip sockets’?
Possessing Donkeys Balam style?
Maybe just binging ‘Game of Thrones’?
Any other ideas come to mind?
@@boboak9168 They should just ask "Jehovah" if they could just put up a few billboards about watchtower so they can retire 😆
@@toomyconne768 haha i came up with some real OG JWs. They would lament they couldn't have a bull horn or put thier foot in the door anymore. They practically are billboards now.
They are probably resting, maybe they already fought Armageddon? "Armageddon came invisibly in 2020...." will soon be a doctrine I bet.
Yep they been directing on zoooom innit 👌😂😂😂
When I informed my family that I will disassociate and that I no longer believed in the GB an elder family member told me to "stop this foolishness" . Another told me
there is no where else to go for spiritual food. Rather than prove me wrong my family wanted me to stay a JW even if it meant pretending. This is why I believe many JWs are complicit because they know its not the "truth" but are content to close their eyes and stay in the matrix.
Sunken cost fallacy
I am an ex JW bible student of several years and oh boy do I have stories. I would love to help others in any way I can. My experience led me to an attempt to un-alive myself.
I hope you have since recovered from the trauma. Good luck friend
That steven lett impersonation was so good I had to double back to make sure you said it
What an excellent interview and it is good to see that you two have so much in common. Well done Lloyd and Haz.This made my Friday night!!
I love how “the back room” has become part of JW terminology 🤣🤣 everyone’s worst nightmare in the org lol
Been apart of 2 back room meetings, both ending in df. Worst nightmare is a fitting description!
I used to refuse “back room” meetings. I used to say I am volunteering my time towards this organisation and I don’t want to be performance managed. Needless to say I never progressed, but so glad I didn’t climb the ladder.
When I was a kid in the ‘80s, our back room was literally panted green and folks in the hall called at “The Greenroom.” It was our version of Hell.
I've heard the back room referred to as "the hot box."
Aged 41 January 2002 had to threaten elders of Horsforth Leeds congregation with the police if they didn't let me leave. I was on the point of physical violence.
Cannot wait for you to to work together you definitely become the A-Team fantastic cannot wait for more
Some creators just stand out and you realize immediately the channel is one of interest and solid integrity. Harrison fits this category and I'm sure he will be at the forefront in future. Thank you Lloyd for providing your support to him as it shows the passion and honesty you have to the cause.
You 2 are my favourites!!!
So well spoken my brother Harrison. I will check your channel out for sure! We often talk about women being denied a voice in this organization, but of course in any patriarchal system, any man seeking authenticity is also chronically emasculated and will lose his voice as well.
Man i just discovered his channel 2 days ago, this is mind blowing.
ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT! Subscribed. Added to my notifications. Cannot wait to dive in! Thank you, Lloyd for the interview. Thank you, Harrison for sharing the brilliance of YOU! From America to you both 💜.
Love you guys 👊😜 you are prime time... i love listening to your videos while I’m cleaning windows 🤣 I by the way really like my job, a little less in the winter I’ll admit 😄 cheers and greetings from sweden 😁
brilliant new apostate,well done
What a refreshing new voice ! Sincere charming and passionate. I've already subscribed. Thanks for the introduction, Lloyd.
Harrison, you are an inspiration to me. I had not your courage or words to relay what I new in my heart for years as to why I could never be a Jehovah's Witness! LLOYD thank you for the Harrison interview and for bringing forth what we all need to hear!
I stumbled upon Harrison's channel last week, and I fell instantly in love! Within minutes it became one of my top EXJW channels.
Let's take a second to admire that t-shirt!
Ha! I said the exact same thing lol...Just love it.
The JW members in my area seem mostly to be not overly educated. One would think the organization would have leaped at a chance to promote and benefit from the superior abilities displayed by both Lloyd and Harrison.
@kylekataryn Wow! 20% without middle school.
Oh yeah education isn't encouraged at all, my mum is jw and never supported me in further education
Harrison is delightful and very brave. He is a great inspiration to me, and just what I needed to hear and I'm sure he is and will continue to be an inspiration for many others, too. Thank you, Lloyd for having him on your show! It is also wonderful that you are there for him to give him support and encouragement on his journey into activism. It goes to show what a beautiful and humble person you are in that instead of seeing him as a competitor you want to strengthen him as an ally. It totally warms my heart. THANK YOU!
Cool! I've been looking forward to this interview. I think Harrison's channel is excellent!
Crying with this: “The real Armagedom is the fight that happens between your heart and your brain” - that will go to my book!
Harrison is impressive, I’m gonna be sure to subscribe to his channel.
After listening to Lloyd offering you his mentorship ...it literally gave me goosebumps! 💝.
This sounds like my friend's dad, he sat down and we looked over the cases and we came out still friends. He said that conversation had him thinking about what he believed and how he felt about. When I listened to this and it reminds me of how we both just sat down. He said he started to read my own notes on the issues
Excellent interview. I just found Harrison's channel. You are both such intelligent, scholarly men. Thank you.
Lloyd just blocked Harrison on Twitter a couple of days ago.
Thank you Lloyd for having Mr. Harrison talk on your outstanding X-JW channel today. ever since I first started to view Mr. Harrison on his very own X-JW channel called ( the truth hurts,) a few weeks ago, this young man has shown to me his outstanding and exceptional way of expressing his thoughts and explaining facts with many hours of research, to back up his views. I hope you will have him come back to visit your channel from time to time in the future as well, BOTH your X-JW channels bring out so many false disparities that the Watchtower JW Society teaches as all true , when we now know are totally false .
The fact that my grandma said I must be getting my information from UA-cam when I refused her invitation to the memorial is proof enough for me that y'all are doing a great job.
I was insulted though. My grandma knows I love to read! 😂 I get my info from books, though I will watch a video and then go back it up with resources.
What makes a good interview.
1) decent thought provoking conversation
2) 2 men talking about biblical spunk ;)
I have waited months for this interview!! I am so happy right now that I could cry 😅
How does Lloyd only have 83k subs and Telltale has 200k+ and Jimmy Snow has 400k? Nothing against those other two guys but Lloyd has been on Leah Remini’s show.
Very heartfelt conversation from two activists... thanks to you both
I went through the same crisis between my heart and my head which forced me to realize I didn't believe.
Nice presentation Harrison!
Excellent video!.. I learned how important it is to be genuine to one self as an ex-jw ..thank you & cheers
Brilliant! just brilliant interview. Harrison please come off the ladders and invest in reach and wash.
No, go to university! You'll love it. You can't have too much critical thinking.
Brilliant interview Lloyd with Harrison. One point, doesn’t Harrison’s elder father think Armageddon is just round the corner, so promising to leave his business to Harrison in 10 years time wouldn’t actually happen (new order).
You know, he probably didn't even think about it as deeply as we on the outside would. I say that because I remember my dad talking about his plans to retire. That was about 6 years ago. He's officially going to retire tomorrow. But in the meantime, he is and was still talking about "Armageddon being right around the corner". We see the disconnect, but they don't.
You are Awsome Harrison.
You and Lloyde are a force to be reckoned with.
Lets rejoyce in our freedom.
He said “I was just like a sister. I had nothing to do, essentially.” 😂😂 Yep. That sums up how little JW care about women.
I was thinking the same thing
I wish that I could get the last 10 years back.
Awesome channel he's made, so excited when I seen that your interviewing him lloyd! Love to both, can't wait to watch this
That service song ... PRICELESS! LOL
Best video ever...out of the mouth of babe's. Fresh, and inspiring.
Just listening to Harrison describe the discord between the two households of his parents, reminded me of the double life in the home where I was brought up, there was one image for the Brothers of harmony and the total opposite when the doors were closed of abuse ridicule and anger, this is my first comment after having listened to many interviews. I ran away from a broken abusive supposedly righteous household when I was 17, I’m now 58 and the sad fact is nothing has changed in all those years. They try to indoctrinate into you that everyone in the world are Satan’s people, but it took years for me to understand what it’s like to be in a real family that values you loves you unconditionally and is always there for you no matter what, so the more people that can come forward like you Lloyd and Harrison and tell it for what it is the better Thank you
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was great listening to you Lloyd and the great encouragement you are giving Harrison. You will be a great team following in your footsteps.