@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male I'm sure you Alpha thingies don't know how to big brain, but please don't be mean in unknown territory, people will just laught at you being clueless.
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male John Carmack is basically the father of modern 3D...Talk about someone who actually did something, and not just talk about what other people should do !
@@TechnicFlow not all of us are like Joey Diaz, oh right! February 19, 1987 in class with Mr. Patton, I had 3 bucks and 2 quarters in my pocket, we learned this and this.... lol some of us probably did learn that stuff but forgot. they spend maybe a day or a week teaching us stuff that we never use again for the rest of our lives. Just like Joe Rogan here running into these terms maybe 40+ years after hearing something like that, if at all.
Agreed! My father introduced me to Wolfenstein and Doom back in the early 90s when i was young, i've always been interested by the work of John Carmack and would absolutely love to hear him delve into his personal thoughts on so many other topics, the mans a genius
This guy is awesome, loves what he does and probably sleeps in his office a lot of days. This is what moves mankind forward you jackass, what is a nerd ? This is a person who loves his craft and takes action on it rather than admiring it on instagram and dumb social media
One of my favourite nerd bits was when he used a phrase something like "popping a few off the stack" when he caught himself going off on a tangent. Programmer lingo that there was almost zero chance of Joe knowing the literal meaning of. But the meaning in the context of how he used it was perfectly clear.
Was expecting a 2 hour long podcast about video game development. Instead I got a 2 hour long podcast about virtual reality, turbocharging ferraris, rocket technology, and video game development. 10/10
If you look at his QuakeCon talks, he was similar there as well. I always found it fascinating to listen to. I never found him to be condescending either, he really tries to explain what he's talking about.
Good news doesn't sell well, but there's actually a lot of it. Extreme poverty is on track to be virtually gone by 2030, and electric cars will likely replace gas cars by 2050 for example.
@@user-ku9hs8yt8w If you think that's the main reason he talks about something technical with enthusiasm, you don't know John Carmack. He's been following his passions for 30 years.
You all live in a bubble. How is the future going to be great when we are going to be bring in another 65million people by 2060 and that's just legal immigration during a time when automation will be in full swing by then??? How does that work??? With the current political climate the country will be lucky to make it to 2030. The USA will look like central America country in the very near future. A 3rd world dump.
Strangely, i also like the fact that he is grounded. He has no trouble saying that we have a tendancy to get carried away with the evolution of technologies.
@@liampattison26 lol, love the podcast, but sometimes he needs to let his guests speak; the Theo Von interview was a wreck. Then every once and awhile he's truly humbled XD
Gábor Szabó a bunch of “I’m” and “I” though. Not sure if I have ever heard of anyone speak in that dialect before. It’s almost like he substitutes the “um” and “uh” with those.
Still makes a well rounded build by sinking points into str, dex and con for those grappling Exchanges tho. But for sure. He did Some serious mini/maxing to get those stats
he just won't stop talking, Joe is watching his show play by itself, could easily go for 4h straight - this fire needs no wood. we need more people like John.
psh 42 minutes in and he wont shut the fuck up about VR. he even admited himself its the size of a shoebox and weighs 9 pounds and has another 2 pounds of wires hanging off it and it will NEVER take off. even if it were sunglasses like his pipe dream people still wont want it.
@@vanillaa679 The fact that you're too stupid to understand the implications of VR, even with all the limitations it has now and likely somewhat far into the future, doesn't mean people don't want it.
John Carmack delivers talks on programming for 3 hour straight talk standing still. He thinks so clearly the words just flows without rephrasing or using filler words. Its hard to stop watching his 3 hour video presentations once it starts playing. Love you John. You are an very inspiring, not just for your mastery over computer science and programming but for the things you supported like donating to the free software foundation, etc.
Really inspiring to hear he just spent 1 week away from society a month ago and dived into AI, still on full learning mode, still leveling up. While I gave up learning anything in depth years ago.. and he is a full decade older than me.
@@Kalumbatsch Q3 is perfect. Just as good today as it ever was. Most competitive duel game ever (aside from Starcraft). Few modern games have made any real technical improvement on FPS competitive gameplay in the last 20 years. Carmack's games are simultaneously the godfather of FPS and the greatest yet made.
Herculeuan LOL hey just be glad that Mr. Joe Rogan provided the very talented and extremely busy John Carmack onto his show so we the fans/viewers can get to know Mr. Carmack a bit more personally. We are blessed!
Word I never heard Joe Rogan get so quiet in his whole hosting career! John Carmack just has way too much information in that brain and has a clear stream of consciousness where if it were Elon Musk he'd reiterate and skip topics and jump back. John essentially studies the brain.
@@ghostphoto1789 superficially intelligent people are bad at explaining., But people who are actually intelligent and have knowledge of a subject knows which parts to emphazise and which parts to simplify, etc, when explaining. If you know a subject by heart its easier to explain than if you just kinda have a understanding of the subject
@@KevinUchihaOG Other then to try and sound smart with your big words "superficially, emphasize"What is your point you're trying to make lol? You typed a whole lot of nuttin, mudaa fukka!!!!!!! Lol, but seriously. What's your point man? I'm curious..
Speaking of lungs, Joe should stop getting stoned on the podcast, his slurred speech and inability to follow the thread sometimes are evident. That said, still ranks supreme.
@@bio2020 you should really check out that reddit thread where Elon was answering those question may be then will your little brain understand who Elon Musk is. Also, do read about him on Wikipedia first before going to that reddit.
@@DasAntiNaziBroetchen BS, he knows plenty of games, like for instance, there is this game, kinda like Quake, but you play as a scientist trapped in a secret research facility you have to escape from. Scientist Quake I believe it's called
Geniuses are naturally pessimistic realists, always keeping in mind that their lives are finite. It's such a breath of fresh air to hear one that's so optimistic and positive about life.
Correction: TECH GOD. This man made an industry. First person shooters did not exist before this man dreamed it up. Bow before the king. Gabe Newell owes this man his kingdom.
@@AfterlifeGames what do you mean man he was John practically invented and perfected 3d graphics, Duke Nukem and Half Life were franchises licenced from his technology. You should do some research before calling someone out.
@@matthewblunderbuss4545 I think far left and far right people do realize that nobody else thinks like them, they just think they're way smarter than everyone else and that everyone else is an idiot and a sheep. Similar to conspiracy theorists.
John Carmack is a true visionary and legend, I could literally listen to him talk for hours on end about seemingly anything, this is probably my favorite episode of the JRE I've seen, full stop.
A legendary programmer. Has one of the most brilliant minds in the engineering field. Basically the OG nerd god. Yet still so humble. I absolutely love John Carmack.
Humble? The guy who called himself a brainy person, who understands things differently than the rest, who would rev his car so everyone in the company noticed he arrived, and that would be hired by tesla if he wanted to, among many other stuff he said about himself... Look, I'm not saying it's false... But humble, he is not.
@@Sam0YT Perhaps not humble, but definitely not arrogant. John has just correctly evaluated that he is highly respected and valued. Some people seem to intentionally "play down" their importance to artificially gain some kind of imagined social boost. That kind of behavior is actually shameful. If I'd catch someone doing it, I'd just dismiss them as a fraud.
Yeah I have been listening to The Portal since EW started it. I think I will be listening to more of these sorts of Joe's podcasts and less of the "comedian" type ones. Dont get me wrong I love those podcasts, but I crave a conversation I can only partially understand.
Yep comedian guests usually suck. It's two hours waxing fantastic about the comedy "process" and the old days with the comedy club scene and bill hicks blablabla.
John Carmack just casually talking about the fact he developed HIS OWN COMPRESSION ALGORITHMS for storing Wolfenstein on a floppy. This man is my hero.
Carmack is a legend. Can't believe the dude isn't even 50. Created Wolfenstein at like 20. Doom inspired all FPSes after in single and in multiplayer. Quake was amazing. All experienced before I was a teenager in early 2000s. Great guy and a nerds nerd.
I'm pretty sure he's going to have to relisten to this podcast again because of how much information Carmack just threw at him about his projects. Too bad they didn't smoke a blunt together.
Definitely for the best. When joe kept repeatedly bring VR back to his own boxing ideas he sounded like a bonehead. “FaNcY hAt SoUnD gOoD-bUt HoW cAn PuNcH aNd SmAsH WiTh hAt?”
Poppe Monk I stopped watching that episode about 30 minutes in because Neil was ranting about intro level physical chemistry and geology like he was blowing Joe and the listener’s minds. It can’t across very condescending at a point and Neil was really jerking himself off to the virtues of science. The dude is really just an Internet personality, a meme and a decent voice actor (cosmos Netflix special). He doesn’t touch Carmack in terms of obvious intelligence. I be Neil probably struggles with changing the input on his television or downloading apps on his phone.
@@cslack813 Yeah I remember talking to my friend about how basic the shit was. He spent like 30 minutes talking about how water freezes or some shit. Which hes equivalently done in all of his shows. Joe had to have just been polite, but probabaly thinking "wtf".
Dude, no joke. Joe rogan is such a great interviewer. It seems like he did so little but everything he asked made John talk about a different subject completely. While still connecting it all back to quake. He really led the conversation. I’m on the jazz cabbage tho so it might be stupid.
He's really good at maintaining a conversation based around a core idea that he's familiar with that he can use as a guide or touchstone. When in doubt he can return to the original idea and use it to renew the conversation or steer it in a new direction while staying on topic.
@@AXharoth DUDE. Im having the same issue. Forgive me if im crazy and imagining this. But I swear to god he's been on before.... Im 95% sure of it. I can't find it either tho. Most Joe Rogan podcast lists are incomplete. I'll keep looking and let u kno. I might be thinking of another podcast tho... But man... I swear ive seen him on Rogan in some capacity before
Banksters are the ones investing in this thus make it happen in most cases. Or at least it is the idea behind banking. o/c it is a bit distorted nowadays when Gov just prints $ like crazy and banks act accordingly crazy.
It's a little sad how many brilliant people spend their time in entertainment or just making money. It would be fun to see a proper nerd do politics once on a while.
@@mhe0815 He does but he's hyper-focused on technology alone and always has been. What he develops isn't about making more money he genuinely always cared about the technology. The business side of the craft is not his forte. I would not associate Zuckerberg with the project he's heavily involved in.
@@mariuszj3826 I know, John is one of my few heroes for a reason, he always wanted what is good for us and is quite puristic in his approach, also he is too powerful at negotiations to be forced to do evil. However, that doesn't mean that less kind spirited people than him won't try to use his tech prowess to achieve their not so noble goals. As awesome as John is, I sometimes wonder how much they abuse his creations. John creates stuff because he loves it, his masters care about the money and not the product, let alone the people.
@@mhe0815Who knows... as brilliant as he is, he is not a good people's person nor a business person. He's aware of the bad side of money but he's not a reformer he's a tech innovator and that's all good with me. I love the guy for what he does.
I knew Joe wouldn't be technical enough to do this interview BUT BUT!! He brought one of the most smartest people in the world on his show and engaged him for over 2 hours. Impressive. You are in tune with your audience. Keep it up!!
Joe plays the happy medium between the expert and the lamen. After all his podcast is listened to by literally hundreds of millions of people, I feel hes aware that the content needs to be digestible to the most amount of people. Either way this was a great interview.
@@rektifyr... I was taking a course in college where we had to build a multiplayer game in teams and we had an argument over how to poll mouse input. I showed this guy the Quake 2 source code where they did it like I said we should, and the argument was over instantly.
20 years later and you realize that John Carmack is not only the legend that all magazines talked about in the yearly 90's - 2000's but he is actually much more interesting!
Great interview Joe. We met about 20 years ago at the Quake III Arena launch party, and it's great to see your love for games still showing through in such a wide-ranging conversation with such an important figure in the field. Kudos.
@Rex Henderson Oh... Well I for sure don't think Elon is the smartest guest. Carmack seems smarter but Elon is certainly a more capable businessman. Carmack doesn't need to be the latter as he's socially aware that he can partner with people who are.
I used to follow his Armadillo space operation, which had modular rockets. He had them taking off and landing on land. So, he does more than games and VR.
Being able to channel your strengths in a way that overshadows your weaknesses is the mark of a true leader. John Carmack pioneered modern gaming as far as technical workings is concerned, but more than that he applied his leadership skills to his craft. That let him create truly amazing experiences despite the limitations of the technology at his fingertips. The technology became a medium for him and not simply a means to an end.
@@BobrLovr I think you have a wrong understanding of what introversion actually means as opposed to a colloquial derogatory term born out of people's ignorance (analog to "autist"). Introversion in itself is perfectly fine, mismanagement of one's own introversion and ignorance in society are the actual problem.
Carmack is a genius and he seems to have a really hard time to explain to people that aren't having at least a strong fundamental understanding of the subject at hand. There's a video on YT where he tries to explain VR to kids and the little ones are just getting blasted with terminology they can't put into any context. I love his clear, precise thinking though.
It's just that kind of topic really and John isn't an expert in it. Joe should have just accepted that particles can teleport and not ask for more detail. lol
@@daarksideyt Joe was probably asking for a nice, intuitive explanation based on the phrasing of his question. You never ask for that when quantum anything is involved.
@@TheElThomaso and for being such a genius he's still very affable, weird, but im sure he gets along with most people very easily. unlike some genius types.
Joe: I'm having hard time understanding this quantum jumping, could you simplify it for me? John: So you have these probability density functions that are like billiard balls...
It's crazy how much insight you can get out of two guys sitting around talking about video games for 3 hours...They've got great chemistry too, the everygamer and the programmer...
I'm so glad to see the much deserved respect. I grew up during the birth of computer games so this dude basically is a Walt Disney to me. But you know, not creepy.
@@SuggestiveGaming I'm a network engineer and it's always great to flesh out my knowledge of related fields, and John is amazing, a total geek for programming.
I love how John Carmack, one of the smartest and most successful developers in recent history, is wearing a shirt that says “I don’t get older, I level up”
So weird, I was randomly starting to scroll down in the comments while watching the vid, and your comment matched up exactly when they said that part in my vid. What a coincidence.
Props to this guy opensourcing games, while basically every other studio rather just kill games as they won't even opensource online only games after they shut down the servers. They're basically killing art.
This is exactly what gaming is now. You can’t really modify any of the games that come out these days besides a handful all because the companies don’t want their assets to be used to make something better that they can’t then profit off of. It’s why things like map development in the first person shooter genre has almost entirely disappeared because of companies like Activision and EA closing those avenues off. It’s fucking bullshit
@@anduin1 I've noticed this happening over the years and guess what? I stopped buying games. these new generations don't understand how fucking GREAT we had it back in the day. remember all of the different maps and weapons on COD1? fighting Shrek with the Shrek theme on Killing Floor 1? it's pretty bad nowadays and the games are made to make max profit for low effort. :( I wish EA would die.
That's why I love ID software. They exist for the fans and the love of badass games and honestly are an example of what the gaming industry needs to do.
When John Carmack was in middle school, he used his chemistry lab to create thermite to burn his way into the computer lab to steal a computer. I'm grateful that he uses his talents for programming and engineering.
John Carmack is programming Jesus. The engines he worked on are the best in the business. Doom 3 is still impressive to this day. (He also managed to get an open world game running at 60fps on 2005 console hardware)
@@liquidzen906 The way shadows and lights work is impressive. It's outdated, but the lighting looks more appealing than many games I see on the market now. The fact that something this good came out in 2004 is incredible. I literally just finished playing the original on PC and BFG edition on Nintendo switch. It looks really good. There's also a lot of atmosphere and little details. The audio logs and GUI surfaces really helped with immersion.
@@superpulaski9767 Yeah, the game is more of a fleshed out tech demo that's really fun to play. It's also my least favorite. I will always prefer the 2nd and 4th games.
It is still impressive because all the rendering and lighting/shader effects can scale well with todays tec. Not many games have such good effects to begin with so they dont age well. I replay old games all the time and doom 3 is one of the games that looks great, many other games from the same time are not even playable without mods that swap out the renderer's for newer ones.
@@abeidiot Today Id software isn't really living up to what it was at Carmack time, thanks to Bethesda. Just look what they did with the "every game engine getting replaced will be open-sourced", someone at Bethesda said "hum no, that's not the optimal way to make money on the very short term, stop doing that already". I think most of the reason Carmack left Id Soft for Occulus was that kind of big company bs.
For a senior project in high school, my group of friends re-did Quake as our campus with the teachers as the mobs. Changed the armor to letter-mans jackets and the nails to pencils, good times. It went over well but I feel it wouldn't these days. We had the teacher that everyone hated the most as the Shambler.
Casey Worthington I think it’s just a sexy way of putting it. Like you’re literally designing the future. And it conjures a feeing of creativity. Whereas the word engineer conjures a feeing of boredom.
There’s more to Carmack than Quake. Rockets, turbo Ferraris, Several game engines, a few Algorithms here and there, JUDO, falling out with Steve Jobs, and being sent to a home for juvenile delinquents. Just to name a few.
John: *"Martial arts robots..."* Joe: *"Yes."* John: *"Punching people..."* Joe: *" Yes."* John: *"That could go poorly."* Joe: *"Go very poorly. Yeah, it could go very poorly... But it could also be awesome."*
@Phil Ill He's one of the best programmers alive right now. This guy was reading whitepapers on cutting edge computer graphics just to make video games. And then made it work on consumer hardware.
@Phil Ill I agree that such terms get thrown about a lot, but there's a real case for this guy being one of the smartest people alive. He isn't some theoretical mastermind like someone like Roger Penrose, and he doesn't exactly invent new theories for anything. But if you simply look at the amount and depth of top-quality work this guy puts out, it's actually insane. He is an absolute master enginner, in the sense that he applies everything that's known and actually makes it work in practice. He's also well versed in a ton of subjects, and has a truely inspiring no-nonsense workethic and general approach to innovation. If you want to look for someone who knows about and developed high-efficiency computing in real world applications, this is your guy.
i laughed so hard when he said that, like does he know he's talking and not programming? i mean, i get you bro, but are you aware that regular folks might not? lol
@1:09:15 Joe: It's so hard for a dummy like me to wrap my head around that but when you are talking about these wires... Carmack: If you draw out like a probability density function...
I know - best part. My only problem with Rogan's guests is he sometimes makes them talk down to him. Well not everyone is stuck on his intellectual level, and some want the level of detail.
Carmack wouldn't play a game that is coded by people who can't figure out how to run servers...fifteen years into billions of dollars from the same idea.
@dubnstuf They always underestimate the amount of players and fix it within the first day, but the problems have always been minor on expansion releases, this release will take weeks to balance out. Ive read estimates that 24 million people tried to play on launch.
@@evgenigeorgiev9002 yeah but difference in ability to communicate is startling. Both are Nerds of the highest order but Carmack could literally talk for hours by himself.
I think Romero isn't nearly on the same level. He still seems stuck in his past glory. He's a nice guy but compared to Carmack who transcended human form at this point... don't think it will be worth the time.
@@auknix i think i came off as criticizing, I am actually big fan of Romero. But besides Doom postmortem (which is great to listen yes), what has he really done since of note? I mean he's been making games since as a true game developer, I am by no means trying to trash him (he's upcoming game looks sick btw). But he wasn't launching rockets and innovating virtual reality... you know?
Very fun and I loved how Joe just sat back and John just went for it.
Nice to see you here, are we going to see a hunt showdown review?
Yesss ACG!!
MAH MAN
Karak! Good to see you here
Who da fook
Finally a real celebrity.
Underrated
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male I can tell you really had to dig into your vocabulary for that insult. Baby steps, my dude.
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male I'm sure you Alpha thingies don't know how to big brain, but please don't be mean in unknown territory, people will just laught at you being clueless.
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male John Carmack is basically the father of modern 3D...Talk about someone who actually did something, and not just talk about what other people should do !
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male Words or a True Ignorant!
Joe: Explain this to me like I'm a dummy
John: So, if you draw out a probability density function
Made me laugh.
You didn't learn probability density function in 8th grade?
/s
@@TechnicFlow not all of us are like Joey Diaz, oh right! February 19, 1987 in class with Mr. Patton, I had 3 bucks and 2 quarters in my pocket, we learned this and this.... lol some of us probably did learn that stuff but forgot. they spend maybe a day or a week teaching us stuff that we never use again for the rest of our lives. Just like Joe Rogan here running into these terms maybe 40+ years after hearing something like that, if at all.
😂
@@GGtheRealest it comes from calculus. A probability density function is a function that you integrate to find probabilities.
I love how positive Carmack is, listening to him ramble on is an absolute joy.
Agree : )
he's passionate!
this is the same man who broke into his school to steal a computer
@TheEriczeppe I'm sorry that you don't have school so you had to bring your elementary tier remarks to UA-cam cause you're bored.
@TheEriczeppe no problem bb ;)
Joe you should set up a camera in a chair so we can sit at the table with ya during podcasts on VR!!!!
Great idea! 3d vr camera so you can sit at the table listening
VR podcasts? Damn.........
yo!!! killer idea!!!!
most underrated comment by far
O.o mind blown
Dude. You gotta have him back on. This was one of your most awesome podcasts brother.
Gotta get him back on with Elon Musk!
Top 10 esports moments;
Quake tournament with Elon Musk vs John Carmack vs Bob Lazar vs Mike Tyson vs Joe Rogan vs Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Agreed! My father introduced me to Wolfenstein and Doom back in the early 90s when i was young, i've always been interested by the work of John Carmack and would absolutely love to hear him delve into his personal thoughts on so many other topics, the mans a genius
Get John Romero on.
First one in a long time I watched from beginning to end
This guy is such a authentic nerd. He is so passionate about his craft. Cool guy
alfredo villasenor soto Ginger too!
I misread authentic as something else, but still agreed.
This guy is awesome, loves what he does and probably sleeps in his office a lot of days. This is what moves mankind forward you jackass, what is a nerd ? This is a person who loves his craft and takes action on it rather than admiring it on instagram and dumb social media
“Cool guys” only exist on toms and Christina’s podcast your moms house
One of my favourite nerd bits was when he used a phrase something like "popping a few off the stack" when he caught himself going off on a tangent. Programmer lingo that there was almost zero chance of Joe knowing the literal meaning of. But the meaning in the context of how he used it was perfectly clear.
I love that when I was in college I emailed him a question about tcp/udp in game design and he emailed me back a response within a couple of days.
Mind if you can share it?
@@kylemason2836 that was back in 1995...
@@AndreComtois you didn't print and frame it?
@@mr.4096 What a shame...
@@liamiangaming7931 indeed. i'll probably need to email carmack a question about tcp/udp just to correct this injustice.
Was expecting a 2 hour long podcast about video game development. Instead I got a 2 hour long podcast about virtual reality, turbocharging ferraris, rocket technology, and video game development.
10/10
Well, Rogan is an awesome conversationalist and interviewer.
And grappling!
Then why did you watch it ? Stop compaining heh
And Judo
@@jaykoncepts328 He gave it 10/10 for the reasons he said. Do you even click Read More?
Joe: "Have you tried this thing?"
John: "I was actually invited to try an early version of the thing"
Dude is a machine. Never even took a sip of water and talked nonstop.
If you look at his QuakeCon talks, he was similar there as well. I always found it fascinating to listen to. I never found him to be condescending either, he really tries to explain what he's talking about.
His nickname is Engine John. And it was more than just his passion or programming engines that earned it.
Must produce a lot of saliva.
Your expectations are really low. Imagine not drinking or eating for 2-3 hours. Must be a nightmare for you!
I wish he would have drank some fucking water... Hard to listen to
Carmack's explaining how the universe works and meanwhile Rogan's just like "yeah, Quake was pretty cool, you could shoot the toilet in that one mod."
None of that was what happened. He was remarking about cool maps. You misquoted him.
Forte of Gray it’s a joke silly billy
Looool
Forte of Gray woooosh
@Aggromemnon LOL!
This guy can REALLY talk, holy shit. I mean that as a compliment. He is actually saying meaningful things non-stop.
I've seen him give an hour-long talk off the cuff. It might have been longer.
Stays on topic and with very deliberate word choice. Muy impressive
Super high IQ
I was thinking the exact same thing. This man can fucking speak incredibly well.
check out his classic quakecon keynotes. 1-2 hours straight of him just talking about interesting stuff.
The main thing I like about this interview is how optimistic he is about the future. I miss hearing things like this.
Good news doesn't sell well, but there's actually a lot of it. Extreme poverty is on track to be virtually gone by 2030, and electric cars will likely replace gas cars by 2050 for example.
@@user-ku9hs8yt8w If you think that's the main reason he talks about something technical with enthusiasm, you don't know John Carmack. He's been following his passions for 30 years.
@@theredscourge The problem with poverty is, it only gets worse when you subsidize the poor ones.
You all live in a bubble. How is the future going to be great when we are going to be bring in another 65million people by 2060 and that's just legal immigration during a time when automation will be in full swing by then??? How does that work??? With the current political climate the country will be lucky to make it to 2030. The USA will look like central America country in the very near future. A 3rd world dump.
Strangely, i also like the fact that he is grounded. He has no trouble saying that we have a tendancy to get carried away with the evolution of technologies.
This is the quietest I've seen Joe Rogan in an interview, lol.......
Watch #1080
I prefer that. I tap the 10 sec advance when i see Joes face, it makes for a much better Experience for me
Lol you should watch the latest Neil Degrasse Tyson interview
@@liampattison26 lol, love the podcast, but sometimes he needs to let his guests speak; the Theo Von interview was a wreck. Then every once and awhile he's truly humbled XD
@@deejay7339 i am very impressed with joe rogan knowledge in games and gaming
Not a single "umm" or "errrm" from Carmack. He spent most of his ability points on intelligence, for sure! :)
Gábor Szabó a bunch of “I’m” and “I” though. Not sure if I have ever heard of anyone speak in that dialect before. It’s almost like he substitutes the “um” and “uh” with those.
@@Earwig35 " Joe: Word" - John: I I'm I I'm
@@Earwig35 Well, true. Haven't noticed it.
@@AN-ke2uz probably practiced replacing "um" and "uh" with that phrase because it works better during speeches
Still makes a well rounded build by sinking points into str, dex and con for those grappling Exchanges tho.
But for sure. He did Some serious mini/maxing to get those stats
he just won't stop talking, Joe is watching his show play by itself, could easily go for 4h straight - this fire needs no wood. we need more people like John.
It's a wonderful thing. Give the man pure attention, and let him go! 😃
psh 42 minutes in and he wont shut the fuck up about VR. he even admited himself its the size of a shoebox and weighs 9 pounds and has another 2 pounds of wires hanging off it and it will NEVER take off. even if it were sunglasses like his pipe dream people still wont want it.
@@vanillaa679 ok
Vanilla A this is why everyone likes chocolate better
@@vanillaa679 The fact that you're too stupid to understand the implications of VR, even with all the limitations it has now and likely somewhat far into the future, doesn't mean people don't want it.
John Carmack delivers talks on programming for 3 hour straight talk standing still. He thinks so clearly the words just flows without rephrasing or using filler words. Its hard to stop watching his 3 hour video presentations once it starts playing. Love you John. You are an very inspiring, not just for your mastery over computer science and programming but for the things you supported like donating to the free software foundation, etc.
Which talk are you referring to?
@@tripv420 check out his old quakecon tech talks
@@tripv420 There are many, This is one sample ua-cam.com/video/wt-iVFxgFWk/v-deo.html
Really inspiring to hear he just spent 1 week away from society a month ago and dived into AI, still on full learning mode, still leveling up.
While I gave up learning anything in depth years ago.. and he is a full decade older than me.
@@koblongata check out azeria-labs.com/the-process-of-mastering-a-skill/ it really helps
Joe: What is Dota?
Jamie: It's different game than Quake
That was so funny
John: Talks about any game
Joe: "See, that's the thing about Quake..."
@Smallss34 Quake is the best game ever.
@@Kalumbatsch Q3 is perfect. Just as good today as it ever was. Most competitive duel game ever (aside from Starcraft). Few modern games have made any real technical improvement on FPS competitive gameplay in the last 20 years. Carmack's games are simultaneously the godfather of FPS and the greatest yet made.
@Smallss34 Doesn't mean that Quake isn't the best game in the world.. 🤣
"That is what humans do. We bend the world to our will."
Absolute gigachad John Carmack.
somebody got a timestamp for this ?
It's part of his ending speech try listening with 10 to 15 minutes left
@@jada90 Thank you !
Gigachad 😂😂😂
in this case, is just him, and if a bad step to humanity
The John Carmack Experince : Featuring Joe rogan lol
Herculeuan LOL hey just be glad that Mr. Joe Rogan provided the very talented and extremely busy John Carmack onto his show so we the fans/viewers can get to know Mr. Carmack a bit more personally. We are blessed!
I talked to him before, he really is like that and I am grateful for it. What an icon.
😂 spot on, I like how Joe is getting annyoed that Carmack keeps vomiting all of this amazing information which he obviously just can't comprehend
Word I never heard Joe Rogan get so quiet in his whole hosting career! John Carmack just has way too much information in that brain and has a clear stream of consciousness where if it were Elon Musk he'd reiterate and skip topics and jump back. John essentially studies the brain.
He is amazing at speaking. He should have his own podcast.
JR "it's so hard for a dummy like me to understand."
JC "okay well if you draw out a probability matrix of a quantum particle....."
mindfuck
Whoa right as I read this they talked bout it
sometimes the most intelligent people are the worst at explaining things but I thought he dumbed it down pretty well
@@ghostphoto1789 superficially intelligent people are bad at explaining., But people who are actually intelligent and have knowledge of a subject knows which parts to emphazise and which parts to simplify, etc, when explaining. If you know a subject by heart its easier to explain than if you just kinda have a understanding of the subject
@@KevinUchihaOG Other then to try and sound smart with your big words "superficially, emphasize"What is your point you're trying to make lol? You typed a whole lot of nuttin, mudaa fukka!!!!!!! Lol, but seriously. What's your point man? I'm curious..
Holy geez john carmack has some serious iron lungs
@Jeff B poliopilled?
breathing takes time
Speaking of lungs, Joe should stop getting stoned on the podcast, his slurred speech and inability to follow the thread sometimes are evident. That said, still ranks supreme.
dislike because title is very precise. NOT.
Must be all the Beat Saber. Cheaper than building your own gym like Joe.
I am pleased to learn that John Carmack and Elon Musk are regularly sharing notes.
Where is he saying this in the episode?
Elon Musk is a businessman.. stop mythologizing him as if he were a genius or something
@@bio2020 he's an engineer not a businessman
@@bio2020 what myth? Carmack literally said he conferred with Elon. Are you confused about what mythologizing means?
@@bio2020 you should really check out that reddit thread where Elon was answering those question may be then will your little brain understand who Elon Musk is. Also, do read about him on Wikipedia first before going to that reddit.
When joe talks for 10 percent of the interview, it was a goddamned amazing episode. This qualifies, wow.
i know what u're saying but I like joe talking too. it's a factor why this podcast is the most popular.
Can't believe such a giant prick gets to interview living legends.
His first hosting of Jordan Peterson he spoke for 3 minutes max 🤣
I always say this! So true!
Good luck out-talking carmack. you just set him up and let him go~!
John Carmack is the most infectiously likeable turbo nerd. Absolute legend.
nice avatar :D
Turbo Nerd...
haaaaaahahahahahaha...love it...
teh nurds have gathered
Turbo nerd is the perfect term
John Carmack is what you get when a brilliant guy spends a LOT of time thinking about a very complex series of questions. Great podcast.
"What is DOTA?" "It's a different game than Quake." I love that everything is referenced to Quake.
Doom? Quake beta.
LMAO
It's like Joe only knows one game.
@@DasAntiNaziBroetchen BS, he knows plenty of games, like for instance, there is this game, kinda like Quake, but you play as a scientist trapped in a secret research facility you have to escape from.
Scientist Quake I believe it's called
@@maxcoseti So is it quake or is it not quake? I mean it can't be "half quake", can it?
@@DasAntiNaziBroetchen You can only supposedly have half of the life that you can in Quake within that game. For instance, 100 is half of 200.
"... I should work through the exercises of doing the basic factoring algorithms on quantum computing..."
Me too John, me too
We all know that feeling
@@noLuckyStrike09 ahahahah i feel bad too
Lmao
Yeah... Damn I'm stupid
He said it like it was changing the address on his license or some shit
First episode in a while where i didn't watch it at 2x speed. John Carmack comes preset at 2x.
tux1968 why on earth would you ever listen at 2x speed?
@@lpboy96 because he drinks coffee before he snorts his cocaine
very concise speaker, thoughts so well gathered, respect.
He's factory overclocked 😀
@@lpboy96 sarcasm sir!
One of the few guys I’ve seen who when he says ‘so it’s interesting...’ it actually IS interesting.
Geniuses are naturally pessimistic realists, always keeping in mind that their lives are finite. It's such a breath of fresh air to hear one that's so optimistic and positive about life.
Intelligence and talent usually get snuffed out in school, some are persistent enough to find a profession, away from academics, to thrive in.
So true. I am naturally a realist.
Finally Joe has someone on who is actually tech literate.
Correction: TECH GOD. This man made an industry. First person shooters did not exist before this man dreamed it up. Bow before the king. Gabe Newell owes this man his kingdom.
Just wait until he gets AOC on to talk about global warming... LOLZ.
@@nathanrice3890 Stop spreading misinformation. Do proper fucking research.
@@AfterlifeGames Explain us then.
@@AfterlifeGames what do you mean man he was John practically invented and perfected 3d graphics, Duke Nukem and Half Life were franchises licenced from his technology. You should do some research before calling someone out.
Missed opportunity to have him in for episode 1337.
I don't get it. ( sorry )
What's special about 1337? Was that in a game?
@Aaron Pitsenbarger I just read this. I'm like...Uuuuh?
I swear there are some people so smart, I feel like a chimp at times.
@Aaron Pitsenbarger ha. I should know this. I make computer game design assets and overall art.
@@Domzdream You were 1337 and didn't know it!
@Aaron Pitsenbarger "Halo days" if you're a halo gamer you're a noob too. 1337 is elite speak going back to the mid 1990s with QUAKE multiplayer.
This guy is not only brilliant...he's just a great guy.
Literally dabbles in rocket science for a hobby. Guy is a gift to humanity.
I would love to have a beer with him.
John Carmack is one of my favourite people to listen to talking... that man has put so much of his time into learning and still going.
Same.
Always great when he's on. Such an intelligent guy. I wish I had his brain!
these once in a lifetime guests are always epic interviews
This is the least amount of time Joe has talked on his podcast ever.
Not really. Watch the Teddy Atlas one.
Came here to say this. Not hating though, super interesting podcast.
Goggins
@@DontNeedToKnow84
Joggins*
Super refreshing to for him to listen.
''I am sometimes conscious of the fact that most people don't think about things the way I do''
-John Carmack
Yes, that one of his best lines. 100%
That's amazing, actually got a full fuckin belly laugh out of me
Would be nice if all these political fanatics would understand this.
99% of people aren't high level software engineers so, of course.
@@matthewblunderbuss4545 I think far left and far right people do realize that nobody else thinks like them, they just think they're way smarter than everyone else and that everyone else is an idiot and a sheep. Similar to conspiracy theorists.
This man basically invented the FPS genre
He invented hardware accelerated games.
And now he’s transitioned to a new cutting edge genre/technology.
Dude likes to innovate.
Yeah but then what did he do?
@@1pcfred Not much , Just some projects with NASA
@@ssstylish2681 exactly
I could listen to Carmack and his ideas for hours. I wish there were a dozen more interviews of him just rambling about his favorite ideas.
John Carmack is a true visionary and legend, I could literally listen to him talk for hours on end about seemingly anything, this is probably my favorite episode of the JRE I've seen, full stop.
A legendary programmer. Has one of the most brilliant minds in the engineering field. Basically the OG nerd god. Yet still so humble. I absolutely love John Carmack.
Humble? The guy who called himself a brainy person, who understands things differently than the rest, who would rev his car so everyone in the company noticed he arrived, and that would be hired by tesla if he wanted to, among many other stuff he said about himself... Look, I'm not saying it's false... But humble, he is not.
@@Sam0YT "im kinda obnoxious in retrospect"
@@Sam0YT Perhaps not humble, but definitely not arrogant. John has just correctly evaluated that he is highly respected and valued. Some people seem to intentionally "play down" their importance to artificially gain some kind of imagined social boost. That kind of behavior is actually shameful. If I'd catch someone doing it, I'd just dismiss them as a fraud.
Joe's ideal VR is just fighting a guy while wearing glasses.
that's a lot of people's idea mean that would be pretty cool.
on top of a toilet
That's all I'll do when something sophisticated like that comes out. That, and medieval sword fighting. How fucking sick would that be dude.
Now this is a podcast. I miss these deep information podcasts
Now this is podracing
Yeah I have been listening to The Portal since EW started it. I think I will be listening to more of these sorts of Joe's podcasts and less of the "comedian" type ones. Dont get me wrong I love those podcasts, but I crave a conversation I can only partially understand.
his podcasts lately have been straight up boring. i want more people like john.
Yep comedian guests usually suck. It's two hours waxing fantastic about the comedy "process" and the old days with the comedy club scene and bill hicks blablabla.
@@cloudbloom spinning is a good trick
"focus grouped to death." Im adding this into my conversations
Me too,
Can I try?
"Dude, my band didn't sell out, we just got focus grouped to death!"
John Carmack just casually talking about the fact he developed HIS OWN COMPRESSION ALGORITHMS for storing Wolfenstein on a floppy. This man is my hero.
There's less to it than you'd think.
@@NinjaRunningWild Wheres All the Data
@@Appreciation-Community that first guy made it sound like it was the cure for cancer.
@@NinjaRunningWild Ya in 2019 but in the 1990's GTFO. No stackexchange, no google help. Just boring and dry asf books from decades past.
People in the comments really short sell Mr. Carmack.
Joe: so you like cars, huh?
John: lemme give you my entire life story as it relates to cars
Carmack is a legend. Can't believe the dude isn't even 50. Created Wolfenstein at like 20. Doom inspired all FPSes after in single and in multiplayer. Quake was amazing. All experienced before I was a teenager in early 2000s. Great guy and a nerds nerd.
A manly man's nerd.
bro it was great to be teenager in late 90s and early 2000s,great time for gamers
HOLY SHIT THAT BLEW MY MIND. AT FUCKING 20`?!?!
Accretion Disk lol
@@LE0NSKA He made games like commander keen etc even before that. He bought his first Ferrari at age 20
this is the longest I've heard Joe go without talking. LOL
That's how you know when he's got a spectacular guest on..... his silence is very telling.
Hes trying so hard not to fan out
Teddy Atlas and Tyson Fury podcasts beat it
I'm pretty sure he's going to have to relisten to this podcast again because of how much information Carmack just threw at him about his projects. Too bad they didn't smoke a blunt together.
He was very silent when he was with Ioan Grilli, Teddy Atlas and Elon musk
This guy has fed the souls of Nerds for decades! May he continue to produce Mana for our kind.
:)) lovely comment
Preach!
Great comment you lil nerd🍻❤️
Finally someone who is worth watching. More of these guys please
INDEED
lol fucking nerd. I am a huge gamer, but belive it or not I am into other shit too. I would suggest you try something else.
Kyp Katarn AGREED
Nah bring more stand-up comedians
"Time is a physicality that you may not appreciate."
Best line of the pod.
That really landed for me too.
The world is a better place with people like John Carmack in it.
When your head is an Easter egg in original doom, you have earned the title of Legend 😎
@@pseudonayme7717 That was John Romero, not Carmack.
Word count
Joe : 3
John : 535095
Definitely for the best. When joe kept repeatedly bring VR back to his own boxing ideas he sounded like a bonehead. “FaNcY hAt SoUnD gOoD-bUt HoW cAn PuNcH aNd SmAsH WiTh hAt?”
Poppe Monk I stopped watching that episode about 30 minutes in because Neil was ranting about intro level physical chemistry and geology like he was blowing Joe and the listener’s minds. It can’t across very condescending at a point and Neil was really jerking himself off to the virtues of science. The dude is really just an Internet personality, a meme and a decent voice actor (cosmos Netflix special). He doesn’t touch Carmack in terms of obvious intelligence. I be Neil probably struggles with changing the input on his television or downloading apps on his phone.
@@cslack813 Yeah I remember talking to my friend about how basic the shit was. He spent like 30 minutes talking about how water freezes or some shit. Which hes equivalently done in all of his shows. Joe had to have just been polite, but probabaly thinking "wtf".
@@cslack813 john carmack could only dream of being smart enough to be a nasa scientist
@Kevin Prima lol he downgraded pluto
Dude, no joke.
Joe rogan is such a great interviewer. It seems like he did so little but everything he asked made John talk about a different subject completely. While still connecting it all back to quake. He really led the conversation.
I’m on the jazz cabbage tho so it might be stupid.
He's really good at maintaining a conversation based around a core idea that he's familiar with that he can use as a guide or touchstone. When in doubt he can return to the original idea and use it to renew the conversation or steer it in a new direction while staying on topic.
I'm glad someone actually gives Joe credit, he's a phenomenal interviewer
He's not always a great interviewer but yeah he crushed this one.
That's just how great John is as an interviewee, most of the segues came from him. But he is so good you couldn't tel
@@NoName-to5xl the "salad of the sound"
I cannot believe you did this podcast. John Carmack is a legend.
Its not his first time on Rogan just FYI, Incase you haven't seen his other appearance
is it the 1st time?
@@AXharoth no
@@AlexHerlan oh so im not crazy thx ; but i did a quick google search and didnt find it whats the number?
@@AXharoth DUDE. Im having the same issue. Forgive me if im crazy and imagining this. But I swear to god he's been on before.... Im 95% sure of it. I can't find it either tho. Most Joe Rogan podcast lists are incomplete. I'll keep looking and let u kno. I might be thinking of another podcast tho... But man... I swear ive seen him on Rogan in some capacity before
This the type podcast i been waiting for , extreme nerdism
I know! The last like 20 episodes have been just bullshit and nonsense, Now we're gonna learn some shit! lol
Yea love the tech but just wish facebook wouldn't have bought oculus as it's just another way for them to sell your data. No thanks
@@melvinbutters2865 ok expert
NERDS UNITE
@@melvinbutters2865 That happened like 5 years ago lmao
I am supremely disappointed that Rogan and Carmack didn't face off in Quake Live for a little bit.
damn accidental self burn
@@bhrhsrhsrehsdg Good catch. Too much editing, not enough proof reading. :D
They probably did just didn't record it
Joe would have got wrecked lets be honest.
Joe probably didnt buy Quake Live and plays UT4.
Engineers like this will save the world, not greedy useless politicians and/or banksters.
But thats who has taken over. Its all about the dollar today, fuck humanity's future.
Its too late and people are too superficial.
Bye
@@flynnlivescmd lol ok flynn
Banksters are the ones investing in this thus make it happen in most cases. Or at least it is the idea behind banking. o/c it is a bit distorted nowadays when Gov just prints $ like crazy and banks act accordingly crazy.
It's a little sad how many brilliant people spend their time in entertainment or just making money. It would be fun to see a proper nerd do politics once on a while.
@@KarlOlofsson Why is it sad? Should a genius not be investing their time in their work making money?
Thank God John Carmack decided not to be a super villain. I don't think we have the resources to stop him.
How do you know he's not.
He does work for Zuckerberg, so....
@@mhe0815 He does but he's hyper-focused on technology alone and always has been. What he develops isn't about making more money he genuinely always cared about the technology. The business side of the craft is not his forte. I would not associate Zuckerberg with the project he's heavily involved in.
@@mariuszj3826 I know, John is one of my few heroes for a reason, he always wanted what is good for us and is quite puristic in his approach, also he is too powerful at negotiations to be forced to do evil. However, that doesn't mean that less kind spirited people than him won't try to use his tech prowess to achieve their not so noble goals. As awesome as John is, I sometimes wonder how much they abuse his creations. John creates stuff because he loves it, his masters care about the money and not the product, let alone the people.
@@mhe0815Who knows... as brilliant as he is, he is not a good people's person nor a business person. He's aware of the bad side of money but he's not a reformer he's a tech innovator and that's all good with me. I love the guy for what he does.
I knew Joe wouldn't be technical enough to do this interview BUT BUT!! He brought one of the most smartest people in the world on his show and engaged him for over 2 hours. Impressive. You are in tune with your audience. Keep it up!!
Joe plays the happy medium between the expert and the lamen. After all his podcast is listened to by literally hundreds of millions of people, I feel hes aware that the content needs to be digestible to the most amount of people. Either way this was a great interview.
I figured programmers were sharp but Carmack is a damned genius.
Iq 230
I've seen too much code to think most programmers are sharp, but this guy's code is beautiful.
@@rektifyr... It's crystal clear. Better than almost any code out there.
@@Kalumbatsch Right?
Definitely one of my proudest faps.
@@rektifyr... I was taking a course in college where we had to build a multiplayer game in teams and we had an argument over how to poll mouse input. I showed this guy the Quake 2 source code where they did it like I said we should, and the argument was over instantly.
20 years later and you realize that John Carmack is not only the legend that all magazines talked about in the yearly 90's - 2000's but he is actually much more interesting!
Joe is on playback speed 0.75, John is 1.5.
I always like and suggest to change speed, but here it is frustrating the double tempo
Omg I know right...had to stop a few times .. motormouth!
Great interview Joe. We met about 20 years ago at the Quake III Arena launch party, and it's great to see your love for games still showing through in such a wide-ranging conversation with such an important figure in the field. Kudos.
Blue!
Did he ask you about DMT?
@@IamWillJ Hello!
Elon Musk is probably the smartest person to be a guest here.
Carmack: Hold my augmented reality projected beer.
@Rex Henderson Intelligence often comes at a cost but I thought Carmack was far more sociable than a lot of other hyper intelligent people.
@Rex Henderson Oh... Well I for sure don't think Elon is the smartest guest. Carmack seems smarter but Elon is certainly a more capable businessman. Carmack doesn't need to be the latter as he's socially aware that he can partner with people who are.
That's a good time !
@Rex Henderson he might not be the best guest on the podcast but hes not autistic, hes one of the smartest guys ever on the show
I used to follow his Armadillo space operation, which had modular rockets. He had them taking off and landing on land. So, he does more than games and VR.
John Carmack is such an excellent communicator for being such a hermit/introvert! Dude is just straight genius!
They modeled the spider mastermind in Doom after John Carmack.
Being able to channel your strengths in a way that overshadows your weaknesses is the mark of a true leader. John Carmack pioneered modern gaming as far as technical workings is concerned, but more than that he applied his leadership skills to his craft. That let him create truly amazing experiences despite the limitations of the technology at his fingertips. The technology became a medium for him and not simply a means to an end.
he's far from an introvert my man. Nerd/smart doesn't mean introvert.
@@BobrLovr yeah, carmack is no introvert lol
@@BobrLovr I think you have a wrong understanding of what introversion actually means as opposed to a colloquial derogatory term born out of people's ignorance (analog to "autist"). Introversion in itself is perfectly fine, mismanagement of one's own introversion and ignorance in society are the actual problem.
Joe: "im a big dummy. what about the wires?"
John: "draw a probability density function"
Carmack is a genius and he seems to have a really hard time to explain to people that aren't having at least a strong fundamental understanding of the subject at hand. There's a video on YT where he tries to explain VR to kids and the little ones are just getting blasted with terminology they can't put into any context. I love his clear, precise thinking though.
It's just that kind of topic really and John isn't an expert in it. Joe should have just accepted that particles can teleport and not ask for more detail. lol
@@daarksideyt Joe was probably asking for a nice, intuitive explanation based on the phrasing of his question. You never ask for that when quantum anything is involved.
@@TheElThomaso and for being such a genius he's still very affable, weird, but im sure he gets along with most people very easily.
unlike some genius types.
Joe: I'm having hard time understanding this quantum jumping, could you simplify it for me?
John: So you have these probability density functions that are like billiard balls...
Carmack is my idol in computer science, and this was another great interview from Joe! Super insightful stuff
Really amazing!!
It's crazy how much insight you can get out of two guys sitting around talking about video games for 3 hours...They've got great chemistry too, the everygamer and the programmer...
I'm so glad to see the much deserved respect. I grew up during the birth of computer games so this dude basically is a Walt Disney to me. But you know, not creepy.
@@42Mrgreenman seriously, it's a great dynamic. as a programmer, I learned a lot just from Joe asking questions from a different point of view
@@SuggestiveGaming I'm a network engineer and it's always great to flesh out my knowledge of related fields, and John is amazing, a total geek for programming.
Jon Carmack Top 20 best guests on here? I think yes.
Novazon top 20 ratio of guest talking vs Joe talking
He's my #1
For sure in the mount rushmoore of guests, B.
I'd be interested in people's top 10s.
Yeah for sure top 5 for me... #1 for me is any eddie bravo or duncan trussel. #2 graham and randall #3 elon musk #4 alex jones and this gotta be my #5
I love how John Carmack, one of the smartest and most successful developers in recent history, is wearing a shirt that says “I don’t get older, I level up”
shouldve wore one of those "DOOM" "I wrote it" t-shirts they had back then, wouldve been awesome but they prob dont have them for a long time anymore
Probably from his local Target too lol
Are we getting John Romero or Gabe Newell eventually?
Gabe newell doesnt have anything to promote anymore, steam is just a cashcow without releasing games anymore.
Richard Garriott? A little too old school?
Gabe would be a godly episode.
@@erikpersson2585 Yea, except their Valve Index bitch slaps any Rift and most of this show was about VR so lol at your comment and face.
OUR LORD AND SAVIOR GABEN
Imagine being one of the men who changed gaming forever and now he's out here pioneering VR, truly a living legend
IDDQD
God mode enabled
IDKFA
@@cwdrock Degreelessness Mode*
@i like peeing in my pants No Clipping Mode *enabled* (aka Walk Through Walls)
Dude.. LoK. Nosgoth4life.
Missed the chance to have him on #1337 :P
Ah, so close
Ikr
He wasted it on that gay pirate.
nerd
It's fine, he had Big Boss on.
I've never seen Joe just listen more in an interview. God bless John Carmack.
John Carmack should have been on episode #1337
thirtymilehigh what’s the reference
@@torinsnotmyname827 LEET. Google it.
thirtymilehigh just said the same thing lol
@@torinsnotmyname827 well it's less than 1338, which we can all agree was a terrible year.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War
@@torinsnotmyname827 lol n00b
Been a really big JC fan since I was in high school, I am in my 40's now and he is still amazing to me!
John Carmack might be like the last pure soul in gaming
He is certainly not in the Randy Pitchford category.
Hideo Kojima says hi
Shigeru Miyamoto disagrees
Masahiro Sakurai? Yoko Taro?
Cory Barlog*
"martial arts robots punching people, that could go poorly"
"That could go very poorly, but could also be awesome"
Yup
If one had a robot to spar with and control, why would they need VR? Just for pretty textures?
alexandroid
People love their graphics.
So weird, I was randomly starting to scroll down in the comments while watching the vid, and your comment matched up exactly when they said that part in my vid. What a coincidence.
It'll be awesome...til it goes poorly.
John: "Make the source code open for everyone to have fun with it"
Marketing: "But our competitors"
Creative: "But our designs"
John: "Do it"
"do it or I will go full judo on your asses"
In Palpatines Voice : "Deww it"
John: I did it
Art wins
There are games that would be dead to the world were it not for decisions like this. It is the right call.
Props to this guy opensourcing games, while basically every other studio rather just kill games as they won't even opensource online only games after they shut down the servers. They're basically killing art.
To this day, I'm learning all sorts of new modding stuff in the robust "gzdoom", which wouldn't exist without the Doom code being open-source. :)
This is exactly what gaming is now. You can’t really modify any of the games that come out these days besides a handful all because the companies don’t want their assets to be used to make something better that they can’t then profit off of. It’s why things like map development in the first person shooter genre has almost entirely disappeared because of companies like Activision and EA closing those avenues off. It’s fucking bullshit
@@anduin1 I've noticed this happening over the years and guess what? I stopped buying games. these new generations don't understand how fucking GREAT we had it back in the day. remember all of the different maps and weapons on COD1? fighting Shrek with the Shrek theme on Killing Floor 1? it's pretty bad nowadays and the games are made to make max profit for low effort. :( I wish EA would die.
That's why I love ID software. They exist for the fans and the love of badass games and honestly are an example of what the gaming industry needs to do.
People should see what modders do with Skyrim. WOW
This was my favorite JRE episode this year. John Carmack is an amazing man, and I respect him very much.
When John Carmack was in middle school, he used his chemistry lab to create thermite to burn his way into the computer lab to steal a computer.
I'm grateful that he uses his talents for programming and engineering.
There’s an alternate timeline where he’s a supercriminal or kills us all
I believe it. Is this actually true?
@@CE-vd2px The theft was written in detail in the book Masters of Doom.
John Carmack is programming Jesus.
The engines he worked on are the best in the business.
Doom 3 is still impressive to this day.
(He also managed to get an open world game running at 60fps on 2005 console hardware)
Doom 3 is NOT impressive to this day. It was great when it first came out but cmon mate, I replayed it about 2 years ago and it doesn't hold up.
@@liquidzen906 The way shadows and lights work is impressive. It's outdated, but the lighting looks more appealing than many games I see on the market now.
The fact that something this good came out in 2004 is incredible.
I literally just finished playing the original on PC and BFG edition on Nintendo switch. It looks really good.
There's also a lot of atmosphere and little details.
The audio logs and GUI surfaces really helped with immersion.
The lighting in that game does still hold up really well even though it’s my least favorite doom game. Still an amazing game
@@superpulaski9767 Yeah, the game is more of a fleshed out tech demo that's really fun to play. It's also my least favorite. I will always prefer the 2nd and 4th games.
It is still impressive because all the rendering and lighting/shader effects can scale well with todays tec. Not many games have such good effects to begin with so they dont age well.
I replay old games all the time and doom 3 is one of the games that looks great, many other games from the same time are not even playable without mods that swap out the renderer's for newer ones.
Easily one of the smartest guys Joe has had on.
Cesar Figueroa - Carmacks thoroughness is impeccable
Doom and Quake are awesome, but thanks for all the support for Linux and OpenGL too, John!! And most of all open source!
@@abeidiot Today Id software isn't really living up to what it was at Carmack time, thanks to Bethesda. Just look what they did with the "every game engine getting replaced will be open-sourced", someone at Bethesda said "hum no, that's not the optimal way to make money on the very short term, stop doing that already".
I think most of the reason Carmack left Id Soft for Occulus was that kind of big company bs.
For a senior project in high school, my group of friends re-did Quake as our campus with the teachers as the mobs. Changed the armor to letter-mans jackets and the nails to pencils, good times. It went over well but I feel it wouldn't these days. We had the teacher that everyone hated the most as the Shambler.
i did this too with my school.
“Engineering is figuring out how to do what you want with what you’ve actually got.”
Damn
Haha why is this quote so prolific? seen a couple posts about it, as an engineer myself we are just designers and work within a design space.
Casey Worthington I think it’s just a sexy way of putting it. Like you’re literally designing the future. And it conjures a feeing of creativity. Whereas the word engineer conjures a feeing of boredom.
@@TG3Podcast lol, future shapers, mathemagicians, idea craftsman...yeah, I like those much better...
Have u ever had a convo with an engineer?
macgyver was the master
I wish Duncan was there sitting in the background in his swamp man suit 😂
well he was thats why you coudlnt see him
dude i just lol'd at work in my cube. thanks, needed it
Epic podcast. John Carmack may be the worlds biggest nerd. Hopefully be back on the podcast again some day. He’s an amazing human.
No, the worlds biggest nerd is a 23 year old funky mixed race chick who aint taking no shit from incompetent bigots... Hollywood said so...
I've never seen Joe respect a non-fighter/comedian this much, he really is a quake fan
There’s more to Carmack than Quake. Rockets, turbo Ferraris, Several game engines, a few Algorithms here and there, JUDO, falling out with Steve Jobs, and being sent to a home for juvenile delinquents. Just to name a few.
John: *"Martial arts robots..."*
Joe: *"Yes."*
John: *"Punching people..."*
Joe: *" Yes."*
John: *"That could go poorly."*
Joe: *"Go very poorly. Yeah, it could go very poorly... But it could also be awesome."*
John is lowkey hilarious at time.
every id software meeting ever
but anything could go poorly when you say it like that
@mrtrex01 sharks with friggen lazer beas on there heads!
@@qwerty49424 Lazer bees are even worse than lazer beam dude, we all going to die
Carmack's truly the most brilliant person alive. The way he digests and shares knowledge is incredibly inspiring. Great podcast.
@Phil Ill you literally have no idea who John Carmack is or who Decino is. I've known about Carmack before you were born kiddo
@Phil Ill basically kids like you don't know shit about Old School legends. So shut up
@Phil Ill He's one of the best programmers alive right now. This guy was reading whitepapers on cutting edge computer graphics just to make video games. And then made it work on consumer hardware.
@Phil Ill I agree that such terms get thrown about a lot, but there's a real case for this guy being one of the smartest people alive. He isn't some theoretical mastermind like someone like Roger Penrose, and he doesn't exactly invent new theories for anything. But if you simply look at the amount and depth of top-quality work this guy puts out, it's actually insane. He is an absolute master enginner, in the sense that he applies everything that's known and actually makes it work in practice. He's also well versed in a ton of subjects, and has a truely inspiring no-nonsense workethic and general approach to innovation. If you want to look for someone who knows about and developed high-efficiency computing in real world applications, this is your guy.
Also don't forget he endorsed Ron Paul in his 2012 presidential campaign. Smart guy.
This podcast with John should have been 5 hours minimum, o well, please have him on again sometime soon.
Have him on with Elon Musk at the same time!
@@MartianMoon Has my vote
carmack is the GOAT
2:27:12 "popping a couple off the stack" lmao
i laughed so hard when he said that, like does he know he's talking and not programming?
i mean, i get you bro, but are you aware that regular folks might not? lol
that was a great line
@1:09:15 Joe: It's so hard for a dummy like me to wrap my head around that but when you are talking about these wires...
Carmack: If you draw out like a probability density function...
Rupesh Gajurel, I laughed hard at that part. Then again at this comment.
lmao I loved that
I know - best part. My only problem with Rogan's guests is he sometimes makes them talk down to him. Well not everyone is stuck on his intellectual level, and some want the level of detail.
@@jeffstock7819 r/iamverysmart
@BlackCatHunting hahahhah
John Carmack did this podcast while waiting in queue for WoW classic.
Lmao so true. Incendius
When I first tried to queue it said 840 minutes. Lol
Carmack wouldn't play a game that is coded by people who can't figure out how to run servers...fifteen years into billions of dollars from the same idea.
Carmack doesn't do nostalgia.
@dubnstuf They always underestimate the amount of players and fix it within the first day, but the problems have always been minor on expansion releases, this release will take weeks to balance out. Ive read estimates that 24 million people tried to play on launch.
The only guest Joe Rogan has ever had that made me stop dry humping my life size Wookie doll on the couch and listen quietly like a cheshire cat.
lmao
along with Elon Musk
Only 6am and i already have images of snoodling Chewie stuck in my head. Can i borrow your doll since you aren't using it?
@@evgenigeorgiev9002 yeah but difference in ability to communicate is startling. Both are Nerds of the highest order but Carmack could literally talk for hours by himself.
@@tdreamgmail True
Try to get John Romero on next!
I think Romero isn't nearly on the same level. He still seems stuck in his past glory. He's a nice guy but compared to Carmack who transcended human form at this point... don't think it will be worth the time.
Just watch his presentations like Doom postmortem, really fun to watch
@@drawmaster77 Romero isn't as good of a programmer. But he's one hell of a designer.
@@auknix i think i came off as criticizing, I am actually big fan of Romero.
But besides Doom postmortem (which is great to listen yes), what has he really done since of note? I mean he's been making games since as a true game developer, I am by no means trying to trash him (he's upcoming game looks sick btw). But he wasn't launching rockets and innovating virtual reality... you know?
yeah! bump