How Did We Get Copaganda? | Copaganda: Episode 1
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2020
- Cops are in the news and American society is rethinking its relationship to the police. But where does our image of what the police are come from? How did early TV create the template for "copaganda?"
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00:00: What is Copaganda?
04:47: Police v Hollywood
07:54 “The Story You’re About to See is True”
13:51: The Weight of Authority
#copaganda #tv #police
What is your favorite cop show and have recent events changed your relationship with it?
The Shield was amazing in its prime.
@@cougargray4031 working my way through it right now! There will almost definitely be a video about it once I finish
Sweet! I somehow forgot to include The Wire as that was amazing in how it looked at the criminals/poverty side of the equation. Dexter is my guilty pleasure too :)
I plan to support you on Patreon-keep up the good work!
Fargo, mainly because it's more about how capitalism is a pernicious evil that corrupts everything it touches. Perhaps the most telling moment is in season 3, where it's offhandedly mentioned that the crime being committed is actually legal if you do the proper paperwork and happens all the time.
Columbo. He was a working class guy who always caught the entitled rich.
Andy Griffith Show. Andy never carried a gun and always solved problems with understanding, food and music.
How come there are never any shows about public defenders?
I remember seeing an episode of The Mentalist (a show I love/d) where Cho wanted to investigate an apartment, and after knocking, received no answer. So he turns to Rigsby and says “I hear a struggle. Don’t you?” Or something like that. He’s clearly lying. But Rigsby goes along with it and they break down the door. I remember thinking, “wait am I supposed to think that this is cool?” Ever since then I’ve always noticed these times where our heroes break the rules in the pursuit of “justice,” and it never sits right with me.
I hardly watched the Mentalist but I've def seen that bit in a cop show before. Definitely not an ok example or precident to set
Moments like these where they not only break the rules, but nod and wink that they *know* they're breaking the rules, get to me so much. Mostly I remember it being like in an interrogation scene where the cop is outright menacing or even torturing a suspect (who of course 99.99% of the time is guilty and terrible and totally deserves it).
There's really big "whatever it takes" energy, because of course cops always make the right call and what they do is always necessary to stop the Bad Guys. The criminals are all super villains so naturally we need superheroes who don't stop to check the rules because they gotta save the [local community], whatever it takes.
it's like how in the very first episode of brooklyn 9-9 they-re having a contest for who can make the most arrests in a month and i was like "is this supposed to be funny?"
It happened in the movie Se7en as well.
There was also something like that in Luke Cage, which felt really in poor taste given that both characters come from a poor black neighbourhood.
One thing I have learned from watching Police shows Is "lawyer". I will never speak to Law Enforcement without an attorney. I will be exercising my right to remain silent.
Not only lawyers are evil but also firefighters too.
Even though these are people that we would trust a lot more than cops in the real world.
...no word pisses cops off more 😂
@@nont18411 firefighters? Really?
@@MonteaNoLipton that doesn't matter, I'd rather have an angry cop vs a cop who's now trying to twist my own words against me
@@Steiveplays yea really fuck firefighters
British police shows almost never show police in an overwhelmingly good light, in fact the show 'The Sweeney' had been praised as the most accurate police series in Britain, because of its portrayal of police corruption, which actually helped to fight corruption in the force in real life
some show in america was like that, i think it was nypd blue or homicide; life on the streets.
And Line of Duty ooooh boy....
@@naheemquattlebaum2267 is that "oh boy" given in praise or criticism of the show?
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 nothing but praise
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 yeah line of duty is about the British version of internal affairs, you know the guys that every American cop show make out to evil assholes
I love Brooklyn 99 but even as an outsider it's always been obvious that it exists in some alternate of fantasy America. The diversity of the cast aside, they are always careful of the law and focused on doing their jobs - something that I actually love watching in a comedy setting. Season 6 was kinda disappointing as they stopped focusing on the police work and more recently I haven't felt like watching it because I can't think of that more wholesome world when police violence is front and centre on the news/social media. Great video, looking forward to this series!
I get into a mindset about it not being realistic whenever I watch it or else I can’t enjoy it because of how maddeningly inaccurate it is
It's still copaganda. Remember the defence lawyers being depicted as all scumbags? Defence lawyers are mostly good and definitely mostly better than prosecutors. But copaganda shows them as mainly bad "who would willingly defend an evil person" kind of argument.
Yeah. That's kinda the thing that makes it work for me where something like Law and Order doesn't. I feel like no one with even a bare minimum of critical thinking skills would think Brooklyn 99 is an accurate representation of policing. It doesn't expect to be taken seriously as a depecitation of policing, it's a workplace comedy. Law and Order DOES expect you to take it at its word as to what policing is like.
(Also, the fact that the latter is written who has described himself in interviews as "unabashedly pro-cop" doesn't help).
I can’t be absolutely certain, but I think the widow at 12:18 is saying “Like a blackboard.” Her delivery is unclear (she definitely drops those ending consonants), but that would fit with the imagery she then invokes about reading things written which no eraser can erase.
And if I am wrong, well, it wouldn’t be the first time I a learn that midcentury US racism was even worse than I had realized.
no she is absolutely saying blackboard. the eraser metaphor makes literally no sense otherwise. very idiotic claim on the video's behalf.
@@thebasedgodmax1163 or just a simple subtitle mistake?
@@the5thestate587 it's not a subtitle considering what the video maker is saying around it. he's claiming it's an example of racism.
no, you really can be absolutely certain. i mean, the test of the line is about what's written there and an eraser
Thank you for making this! As a kid, I was completely, utterly indoctrinated into this narrative of cops. I was raised on cop shows. It started with this show called Inspector Rex, then it was NCIS, Criminal Minds, Law and Order, and shows like Border Security. I would sneak into the living room at night to stay up late watching NCIS because I thought it made me cool and brave and I could brag to my fourth grade friends at school, haha. But it painted a very strong image of police that I refused to part with for the longest time. I always thought police were only thing keeping society from crumbling into anarchy. I always thought they were brave, strong, heroic, emotionless and always did the right thing. Only this year was I forced to come to terms with that image after seeing the endless amount of police brutality that has been recorded and posted online. I should have realised much earlier that the version of the police presented in cop shows doesnt exist. I feel lied to, but I'm glad I'm finally coming to terms with reality.
Not all cops are bad and not all cops are good. it would be chaos in countries that abolish/defund the police departments. and cop shows may make cops seem way to heroic but that doesn't change the fact that without the police crime rate would sky rocket. people who think all cops are bad and brutal are blind and believe only what the media shows them.
Good for you man, I broke free from a different type of brainwashing when I was around 18 and questioning your ideals is definitely tricky and especially uncomfortable at first. It takes some serious introspection but is well worthwhile!
Chicago pd is terrible when it comes to police brutality. One cop was confronted by a civilian about allegations of him beating people up and he basically confirmed that they were true. The show made a joke of her being scared of him for the rest of the episode.
There's also the line "you're not a real cop unless you have some lawsuits against you."
The whole premise is the main character is the guy that was ARRESTED and CONVICTED for being the dirty cop antagonist of Chicago Fire is now in charge of his own unit of cops. When it first aired I thought the whole point was that you are watching a bad guy. At one point the dude literally murders a man and buries the body. I thought it was like Breaking Bad.
Took me way too long to realize that no, he is supposed to be the good guy.
@@elaz925 Ikr??
@@elaz925literally! When I found out that one of the season bad guys from Chicago Fire, a corrupt cop who spent his time threatening my favourite firefighter and trying to frame him, was the main character in Chicago PD? I was so shocked! I totally still watched it but the show has got majorrrr issues
Yeah, Voight isn't the kind of guy I'd like to meet in a dark alley at 1 am.
I was appalled when I learned it was Dick Wolf. Seeing Chicago PD made me rethink how I felt about Law and Order. It's a show about war, pretending to be about police. Fuct up, if you're the type of person the police are at 'war' with. They'd love to beat the shit out of me on that show.
Hannibal does so many things with the cop show, I'm kinda excited to see how it shows up in this series.
Really?
1) They stopped making that show quite a while ago
and
2) The crimes it featured were so preposterously implausible - in one episode the perp, acting alone, built a 4 metre totem pole on a beach from victims' body parts, in another the perp had buried a row of corpses in his back yard and was using them to grow mushrooms - I don't believe it had anything at all to say about the effects on real society of real police practices and policies.
Or at least, that's how I recall it.
yeah I was wondering that too. I think it's very far removed from reality, and maybe has a spectator sort of voyeurism to killers view, as probably so does Mindhunter. But it I think if anything would comment on the cops not being effective enough? As the killers all run laps around them.
@@SkepticalSteve01 even if it doesn't say a lot about police, that still says a lot about how the show views police, you know?
@@Gloomdrake Sure. It says “don’t go looking for your steenky realism here.” For entertainment purposes, that’s fine.
I would think Mindhunter is much more important to mention here, as well as Narcos and Narcos:México
Pretty sure she said blackboard not black boy, in the context of everything else she said blackboard makes alot more sense
Yeah I was just coming here to say that
yeah
I've been unable to find an official script to confirm but I think that this is definitely possible! I don't think that it impacts the point that the show is dehumanizing criminals in order to ease the conscience of the police
@@SkipIntroYT it's definitely blackboard you can tell by the way she mentions "eraser" and "things written there". Still shows an uncaring and bias view against the guy killed by the police but it's definitely misinformation to claim that line was racist.
14192jn chill your dill, misinformation is whole lot different than an honest mistake
I have been sharing these videos with people to explain Black Lives Matter, systemic-brutality concepts, but this week I have shared it to wake people up around their anger around the cops at Uvalde. Thank you so much for this series. It is unfortunate so many believe the cops are individual Captain Americas that are here to save the day and we are indeed safe with.
Timestamps:
4:49 police v hollywood
7:57 "the story you're about to see is true"
13:52 the weight of authority
17:10 outro
Thank you 🙏
I went through a phase a while back where I watched a ton of Criminal Minds. I knew I wasn't watching it so much for the cases due to the fact I had consumed a lot of true crime media in the past and wasn't interested in doing that anymore. I've thought a lot about why it was so appealing to me, and I think part of it was that it contrasted with a lot of that true crime content, which has similar themes in terms of creating a fear of crime but sometimes different views on law enforcement. A lot of true crime cases deal with police incompetence, and I think Criminal Minds appealed to me partly because it presented a world where if I were the victim of a crime it would be taken seriously and with treated with empathy by a group of competent people.
The badge shown at the beginning of Dragnet was an honorary given to Jack Webb by a grateful LAPD.
BTW, according to cops across the country the most realistic cop show was Barney Miller.
You should talk about the show Lucifer! It's mixed in with supernatural elements, but most of the main characters are detectives and most of the plot revolves around cases.
Lol, hindsight
Yes this is why I stopped watching it. The copaganda was ridiculous.
@@ladyreverie7027 I hated how Lucifer seemed to have like zero meaningful character arc. Like at the beginning he would be a dick to Decker and eventually be proved correct so she would forgive him. Later he would be a dick to Decker and eventually be proved correct but since he kinda apologises to her, so she forgives him
I think the line in Naked City is "blackboard", not "black boy". It fits with the part about the "dirty things written there" and "no eraser could take away".
Great show, but you kind of skipped over the whole era of radio dramas that laid the groundwork for Copaganda. There were a LOT of cop shows on OTR in the 40s and 50s. It's also interesting that even the detectives and vigilante heroes in radio shows all tended to have a good working relationship with at least one cop .
I think SVU has done some good work in making the public more aware of sex crimes and changing attitudes about victim-blaming, but the rest of that show is pure copaganda. On the few occasions they entertain the idea that bad cops exist, the guilty cop turns out to be one of the least likeable humans ever. Just an absolutely ignorant ass. Then the star will go back to roughing up suspects.
ith so many people correctly pointing she says 'blackboard' and not 'black boy'. Your point about the dehumanization stands alone without conflating two very real issues. I recommend adding a note in the video description.
Black-ish was a modern day minstrel show. I couldn't even make it through season 2 before disgust overwhelmed me.
Bosch is probably my favorite cop show and one of my favorite shows of all time, ive never seen a cop show actually having a nuanced portrayal with a much greyer tone rather than the usual black and white one (often literally).
I heard you mention PTSD but not anything about WW2, unless I just missed it. I feel like a lot of police serials during/after the war were propaganda as much for the soldiers returning (many of whom became officers) as the general public. Good start to the series, I'll be watching the whole thing!
looking at your channel’s average views, i feel like there’s some algorithm trickery afoot. your work is very thought out and well made!
Always missing Skip Intro, glad to see a video
This is brillant and a subscription right here! Special shoutout to Ice-T portraying an actual copaganda cop after EVERYTHING that was before in his career lmao
This is amazing! I have all 20 years of L&O and thought about deconstructing each episode with who it is copaganda.
Great video, Skip. Can't wait to see the next one. Hope the algorithm gives this one a hearty push.
There was a color episode of Dragnet that showed Joe Friday under a review board after it appears he shot first at a suspect. Naturally its revealed that Friday indeed fire back in self-defense, and naturally the episode aged like milk after it was conceived.
Came here for the binge. It's nice to see that the quality was still brilliant from the start.
One important thing about _Dragnet_ is that it was contemporaneous and co-located with William Parker's invention of the modern police. He specifically wanted the police to function as an alien, independent, invading force in neighborhoods, not of the neighborhoods they patrol and control. This was sold as a measure to reduce corruption, on the idea that if cops were separate from the public, they wouldn't get too chummy and engage in too much _quid pro quo._ The overwhelming majority of problems with current police brutality stem from Parker's invention. That is why, when considering alternate and possibly better approaches to public safety, it is extremely important not to use the term _police_ to describe these alternatives. Using the term _police_ evokes *only* the William Parker model and nothing else. The term _cop_ is even more important. _Dragnet_ was the first show to use _cop_ not as a slur.
_Cops_ *cannot* be reformed, because the invader-like mentality which leads directly to dehumanization is built into the very concept, deliberately so, specifically by William Parker. A cop who isn't that way is a contradiction in terms, like the elected queen in the _Star Wars_ prequels, Queen Amygdala or whatever her name is. Use terms like _law enforcement officer_ or _LEO_ instead. I've been advocating this for years, and I notice The Civil Rights Lawyer, who has a channel and who is excellent, uses this. Also see the video on three letters by Beau of the Fifth Column. Categorization is important. As you put it, it is woven into the DNA of the very terms we use.
Similarly, consider what a _dragnet_ is. It's a net that picks up everything, regardless of what it is. Why act surprised when a culture based on that concept makes no distinction between innocence and guilt? It's right there in the very foundation of the concept.
The Rookie is not only copaga da, but a cry for help from within LAPD which seems to be an unprofessional and violent organisation expecting cultish reverence from subordinates and supports dangerous behaviour of staff. The pilot starts with "forget what you learnt in the academy" and then your fate lies in the hand of your TO who has the ability to put your life in danger on a daily basis. If this script has been reviewedby LAPD it's concerning. It's basically an argument for abolishing police.
This was a really good video, I'm super excited to see the rest!
Excellent video (great editing, script, etc.) and you've gained a new subscriber! I grew up listening to old-time radio on NPR. Dragnet, Gunsmoke, Johnny Dollar, etc. While I arrived at the points you're making in my college years, I really enjoyed your cogent and thoughtful explanation. I still enjoy the format (well, not stuff like Blue Bloods, but the more straightforward procedurals) but now watch with full knowledge it's aspirational/fiction. Great video and I will be considering supporting patreon after keeping up with content a little longer!
The inclusion of the Keystone Cops made me smile - my grandfather would use that phrase all the time.
Johnny Dollar is entertaining, to be fair.
Love this! Can't wait for the whole series!
15:04 Sincerely, Captain Raymond Holt
12:17 I believe it's Blackboard not Black Boy.
Hence all the talk about stuff being written on him that can't be erased. It's really obviously Blackboard.
Fun fact: Fatty Arbuckle was acquitted after two previous hung juries. The jury took the unusual step of writing an apology to Arbuckle for his treatment in the media and court of public media. His career never recovered.
60% cop shows? Wow, it's almost like we're living under a bourgeois police state or something
Thanks for posting. So timely.
That Naked City ending was one hell of a cop out. A ton of character growth thrown out so the guy boinks the girl with a dose of fine vintage casual racism guilt free.
Starting the series on may, 2022. Nice to see the start of it. Keep the good work.
Glad this series came across my feed, keep it up!
I love you content in general but this series has been so important and amazing. Thabk you for your work my man
I've always loved the show Psych. The entire concept is predicated on subverting the law and violating constitutional rights. In fact, the actual cops are often a step behind because they are tied to inconvenient proper legal procedure like obtaining warrants. Shawn is the main protagonist and gets the true bad guy because he does things like break into private properties to rifle around for clues. On top of that, they make jokes about one of the police protagonists being obsessed with guns and too quick to fire his weapon on the job. It's a recurring personality quirk played for laughs. I rewatched the first few seasons this winter and I still love parts of it. It's funny and silly and I love the positive portrayal of a close, emotional male friendship. Plus, I met Timothy Omundson in real life and he was the nicest person (I still have his autograph on the back of my Lakers ticket in a picture frame) so I'll always have a certain fondness for the show for that reason alone. However, I found it a lot harder to turn off my brain and stay on board with the warped show logic. A bit of editing changes and the same concept could be more of an indictment of systemic police corruption and extra-judicial, "creative" investigating. The only thing I will say about the show's portrayal is that they *sometimes* flip expectations when it comes to criminals. While I wouldn't say they show any particular empathy, there are occasions when ex-cons or the like are suspected and presumed guilty based on their history but Shawn believes them and proves their innocence. There are also multiple times when cops (and once an arson investigator within the fire department) are revealed as perpetrators. I wouldn't say there is any emotional contemplation of this corruption but it does happen a number of times which you don't always see. I'll always love the show because I watched it from the very first episode and it's one of the only shows that my brother, my sister, and I were all fans of. It provided many inside jokes for years. But I don't think I'll ever be able to watch it with quite the same unadulterated emotional investment.
Terrific work. That Dragnet and Naked City stuff really felt like a crossroad of sorts.
Jesus man, your editing/motion design is of the charts, very inspiring! Oh and the content is also great :)
This deserves way more views
that "guess their working a lot of overtime" at 2:20 fucking killed me
I contend that the andy Griffith show should be discussed as well.
Looking forward to going through this series! This is a really cool look at the history of the cop show, much I didn't know
love this series--can't wait to watch the rest of your videos
Alright, back at the beginning and strapped in for the duration. I intend to watch and share the entirety of this playlist immediately. Your dedication to doomsaying law enforcement is admirable Sir. It is the reason you have made the list. 😎
#TheAbyssStaresBack
excited for this series!!
I'd love to see you cover Chicago pd, one of the characters in that show commits so much unchecked police brutality
Incredible video.. Really made me think about how where made to think about police in general... Thank you
Really liking your channel, here's one for the algorithm
Speaking about Dragnet's origins as a radio show, there's something else I can't help but think about how the narratives shifted over the years. Vigilante criminals like Boston Blackie and The Saint were being written less and less as "career criminals who would often thwart crimes out of personal senses of justice or vengeance against the criminal who wronged them as part of their scheme" to "just some dudes who didn't seem to have a job but served as a great person to handle the matter of a crime in a way so they turn the culprit over to the police themselves." Having been introduced to The Saint via Vincent Price's portrayal of him on radio, I had not known he was a world-spanning vigilante until I looked up the series online. Seemed like with the growth of copaganda here was also leading to a decline in heroic depictions of criminals
Also, apparently around the time of Dragnet's radio period an ex-member of the FBI tried to make a series about his own adventures without getting full oversight from the Bureau first, and titled it "the True Stories of the FBI." It didn't last long.
From one Jackson to another, I love this series. I'm subbing and hitting the bell, I want so much more of this same content. Going through a really rough breakup and I tried to kill myself this week and sometimes you just need things you're passionate about to focus on and distract yourself from everything. I know there's no correlation but I appreciate how hard you're working for us viewers. Thank you.
Hope your doing well
This is a great video. I’d like to bring up the Tom Hanks and Dan Akroid helmed remake movie of Dragnet in the 80s. While it utilises the traditional cop show formula, it takes things to such absurd extremes, that there is no way the LAPD signed off on it as a “realistic depiction of police work” and I find that rather charming idk
Also something I find interesting about Naked City is how it attempts to reflect the cynical liberal attitudes of the Film Noir of the 30s-50s, where Dragnet very clearly comes at the Cop genre from that extremely black, white and shiny take on police work.
Great video!
Thanks for making this!
Great work!
Damn who is that handsome fella in the video? Happy he's come out to play now!
Dude, I just began watching this series like 2hr ago with the most recent one (Fentanyl) and it's amazing how relevant and how far this project has come. Congrats, it's a great job!
About Fatty Arbuckle, the funny thing is that Hollywood totally changes its guidelines because of the negative image associated with him when he was in fact innocent.
Aside from establishing censorship boards, what else changed.
@@kostajovanovic3711 the established the Hays Code. A super-strict "moral" code that totally changed the content of movies for several decades.
@@lucgillibert4446and comics, which of course now just means movies I guess 😔
Just found this, it was good watching. Thanks for making it
17:27 "And have plans to make as many as like 10 total." Me, 3 years later, smiling at the 15 videos I am about to binge.
Gotta make a note that every single man in all shows from the 50s and 60s are hilariously stoic and comfortable with killing. But also a lot of the people making them went through ww2...so yeah.
I am LOVING this series. Please do Columbo! I love him but it can get real weird with the honest loveable down to earth cop vs. cultured intellectualist elite vibes.
Actually Quincy ME might be good
Line of Duty's an interesting one. It's about police corruption. They're not afraid to show the dark side and pitfalls in policing.
I just found your channel because of your fentanyl episode (if you read my comment chain on that video it’ll explain a LOT). But my favorite cop shows ever are a pair of Baltimore based shows; Homicide and The Wire. Both of them are based on the writings of a journalist who spent a year with the Baltimore homicide department. I read his book after watching the first show as a child (I have family in Maryland so I know Baltimore pretty well) Homicide introduces John Munch, the greatest tv detective EVER. I think maybe a good idea for an episode of this would be to compare the book Homicide; A Year On The Killing Streets with the television show Homicide: Life on the Streets.
I own H:LOTS but have never watched it. The box is a little filing cabinet including a metal handle and it’s too cute to care
@@JenSell1626 what haven’t you watched it?
@@Thor-Orion I KNOW I KNOW
My best friend mom passed recently, and I learned it was their show
So in one year we are gonna pour one out and pound several more ourselves and cry
Sometimes it works out that you encounter the right property at the right time
If it helps I can perform The Wire for you, have read H:LOTS
And learned an old roommate took my copy of The Corner so I scoured for a replacement.
It’s obscene it’s not streaming from HBO and invest in physical media l, kids.
Khandi Alexander’sfinest work and such disrespect to Dutton
So I’m passingly acquainted with the David Simon Extended Universe lol 😂
I corresponded with Robert Chew on fb. Still to this day someone of that family name or one of the theater kids will interact with it and I cry every time.
I never once asked him about The Wire but his work with kids. I think that’s why he I teractedwith me. He was amazing.
Please I beg everyone to get The Corner and show everyone
The young man in the story in real life was Brother Mouzone’s body man, RIP. I saw one of The Real Omars at the Boston Book Festival, RIP. I was too late to get into the event with Simon, Sohn,and reps from BPD and, well, BPD at the JFK school of government but the guy I told about it got in
I’m about that life and here for all the problematic conversations. Ed Burns feelings looking back are something to ponder.
Have a fantastic day and watch your six 😭
I do recommend Barney Miller. From the 70s it shows an ensemble cast of relatable, likable characters that struggle with the drudgery of their jobs. It is a sitcom that is more like watching a short play each episode. It is very different from a lot of other cop shows and does have more empathy and treats people with dignity. The cops are human and not perfect but are definitely likable.
I wonder if Elementary will come up in this series
Have you ever noticed how cop shows tend to have an "expert" (whose area could spread between supernatural and scientific for each giving theme) that acts as an advisor to the police? In my head - and I'm going full speculation here - this is due to how acquainted the police is to make cops advisors on cop shows.
Great analysis
Great video! :D
This series is dope af
10:51 it amazes me how people watch Les Miserables, and fail to see how the system is the exact same.
Great stuff
Not sure how I got here but I love your content! *subscribes*
This is truly a well-researched video.
As for favorite cop shows, I'd name Dexter as one, Lie to Me as another (if it even counts as a cop show). I used to watch Brooklyn nine-nine, but after taking a break from it I couldn't bear the cringe.
I still like Dexter, I'm gradually rewatching it with my friend (he's watching the show for the first time, I'm watching it for the second time).
I can't really say that my relationship with the shows has changed, but my opinion on crime really has. After taking an interest in the topic of socialism I started paying more attention to what the laws are bringing out in people. First, the people are oppressed, then they are pushed into the corner, and after that, they are punished for trying to survive. A lot of the time trying to fix crime with police is like trying to heal a symptom instead of the illness itself.
“Like a black boy”
Black people: 🤨
Not black board?
Eric Baggs right the rest of her metaphor really seemed to indicate that she had said Black Board.
I heard about this series from the comment section from the latest episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, the one about police interrogations.
if you ever decide to put this whole series in a book, I'd buy it. And if you source it etc there would have been a LOT of times I could have used it in uni
12:13 your captions are screwed up. she clearly says "board" not "boy"
Awesome video
As someone who has been born and bred in Texas and has only left the state two times in my 21 years of living, I can confidently say that learning about this type of thing is very hard. My father was republican and my mother was too in my early years (she's much more liberal now), I grew up under the rhetoric of the most basic republican talk. Gun = good, cop = good, ect... ect... I've also talled to people who are cops, as in my experience being a cop is a job that is idealistic to many republicans, and they weren't bad people. I grew up in a small town where everyone knew everyone, and seeing the news and the like where everyone says "all cops are bad" you have many people in these towns think "well I know billy bob who's a cop and he's a mighty fine gentleman, why I see him at church every sunday. His wife bakes the best apple pies and their children are such darlings." I will admit to having these thoughts too, it's only expected. I've been fighting it by immediately thinking that, THAT cop I know might not be bad every other cop still is. It's fairly hard to uncondition oneself but I think i've done a mighty fine job all in all. Anyways, watching videos such as this has really helped me fight against the way I was raised. I guess I just wanted to talk about how being raised and where you where raised can effect your thought process on things like this. I wish other people who can say not all cops can take a step back from their personal feelings and accept the facts as they are.
Thanks for making these videos, they're very helpful!! :]
great video
damn well made
In April 2023 keep up the good work!!!
Just waiting for 24 to show up in this series 🥴 love it tbh
im gonna be completely honest, i was subscribed to this channel because of the crazy ex girlfriend video (which i loved) and then sort of forgot about it. i dont watch a lot of series and so i didnt really care about watching videos analysing shows i knew i should watch but felt i wasnt ready to compromise and watch long episodes and whole seasons.
but now that im becoming more interested in police defunding, this has brought me back. i hope this comment and my view and like can improve this video series chances of reaching a wider audience
A full episode on Naked City could work because you didn’t quite go into why it really isn’t any better than Dragnet despite its redeeming traits.
10:15 (depiction of Naked City). See, this is why I really like the criminally underrated late noughties cop show, _Flashpoint._ They *always* depicted crime as a combination of circumstance and choice, and in a way where you could imagine that if you faced those circumstances, you might make the same choices. It wasn't all that realistic, obviously (few cop shows are), but while portraying the police as generally "good" (meaning, trying to do good...and I still think most cops fit into this category, be they Canadian or American), it also took pains to NOT portray the people committing the crimes as "bad" or "evil" (although in certain rare cases, the audience might come to that conclusion on their own). Moreover, it highlighted a very Canadian approach to policing, in which de-escalation was always the first tactic considered (and violence was a last resort, only used when civilian lives were under imminent threat*), and where all police shootings, no matter the circumstances, are investigated by an independent commission (a fact which resulted in some grumbling from the cops in the show, but ultimately, they understood the purpose of this process, and co-operated with it fully). This is actually how things work in Canada, and while some "independent" commissions are more cop-friendly than others, at least a process which seeks to enforce accountability exists at all. The indiscriminate slaughter of civilians does happen in Canada, but it is fortunately quite rare (and as such, all incidents thereof receive a lot of scrutiny).
It is not a perfect system by any stretch of the imagination, but I would be thrilled if American policing, and the public perception thereof (especially amongst white people) made significant strides in this direction. Police don't have to be the way they are. This is also a choice that has happened because of a variety of circumstances. Maybe it made sense to the people making the choice...but racist systems will produce police that protect...racist systems. If America wants to truly claim that it is fighting racism, it needs to re-evaluate the role of police in its society. And yes, Canada needs to move in this direction as well...just because Canadian cops aren't as bad as the Americans doesn't mean that progress shouldn't be made.
*Here we see that it too is Copaganda because it portrayed cops as willing to risk THEIR lives in the service of non-violence (just not non-police lives); this is rarely the case, even in Canada.
Thumbs up and an additional comment to beat the algorithm. Thanks for the video! 👍🔥👍
okay so this is the first video of yours I've clicked on, I'm 4:50 in and liking it so far. But the irony of being 1/4 into a video, saying "this is [name of channel]" signifying the end of the intro, but the channel name is Skip intro? odd choice tbh
When your analyzing tv SciFi cop shows don't forget about Eureka!
Looking forward to that video on mental health in cop media! I have no doubts that it's going to be a nightmare!
Oh yeah, and my answer to the comment question is Patlabor and, honestly, not much? Like, I already 🤔'd over it when I watched it idk.
There are good and bad in every profession. Having said that, I think the purpose of copaganda is to a) give the cops a good name and remind everyone that they are putting their lives on the line for our safety and 2) to remind the cops of the behavior we expect from them, that they have a duty to uphold public trust.
In the scene with the widow she's saying "blackboard" whoever did the transcription should have taken the rest of her lines as context. She mentions things written not being able to be erased, that makes sense if we're talking about a blackboard, a chalkboard. Good video, but that grabbed my attention.