I’m a Polaris guy but, man, these Lynx sleds are growing on me!! I think they look better then the Ski-doo sleds and they sound like quite the units!! Thanks for the video gents! - Hope we get a few more walk arounds before the snow melts!
I agree with you in the pull start. Why that isn’t standard on all 2-strokes is beyond me. Bizarre change from the 90s when I was paying extra for e-start and now I’m paying for a pull cord!
I really don't get the missing pull start complaint. First of all, there is no pull start on the big 4-strokes, and somehow people don't have any issues with that? They use the exact same E-start setup, and are probably more prone to a no-start situation because they need more power to start. Secondly, this is an Etec. They are super easy to start on the clutch. A friend of mine was riding his e-start Etec for two whole weeks without battery and no recoil. He started it on the clutch like 50 times, and not once did it fail to start on the first pull and not once did he have a sketchy situation.
@@Kowalski301 why didn’t he just use the Estart? Let me guess, the battery didn’t work? Case closed. In extreme conditions, such as 35 below zero, batteries fail especially if they are 2+ years old. They also add 20 pounds to the weight of the sled. For people who want the ultimate in performance, that 20 pounds is a lot. Ski Doo then comes out with awesome tech in the SHOT start system to combat the weight issue, and in typical BRP fashion they don’t offer it in trail sleds. The company just really limits trail riders in every possible way imaginable, and they’ve been that way for years now.
@@bedlambikes You clearly missed my point. I'm not saying that E-start is "better" than pull start. It's not one or the other we are discussing here! For the record, I have 3 sleds, and not one has E-start because I hate the extra weight too. But the issue we are discussing is if pull start is necessary when the sled already comes with factory E-start like this one, and it's clearly not. It's super easy to do a clutch start if the E-start should fail. You are probably more likely to snap the pull start cord, or break the recoil (both has happened for me) on a pull start only sled, than the E-start failing - thus leaving you with the exact same option: Clutch start which is no problem whatsoever.
Loving what lynx is doing with sleds and where there going I definitely prefer the narrow front end as we do 90% off trail riding in our area and it definitely makes the sled more playful in many ways thanks for the review
Thx for the info just got one had the dealer put on the side panel and medium windshield also the side plates for my feet ,the sled looks great can hardly wait to ride it (maybe next week🤞)
This is my next sled. I have a ‘19 backcountry 850 146” now and the next year or two I will pick one of these up. Love it and wish they had it in ‘19. I love my front end but having the slightly wider front end would be more beneficial 60% of the time and is another reason in why as of now this is my next choice. Keep up the great work guys 👍🏻
I’m a mostly an on-trail guy so my vote is for the wider stance of the Xterrain. Love your TV show and UA-cam content, can’t wait for next winter. Take care.
Hi..great video walk a round. Great to see the comparisons nail down so many aspects of each sled. Northern Minnesota still lends itself to a trail mecca, but with the Lynx Expedition it seems you would get the best of both worlds! Bill J.Duluth.
42” front with a 900 turbo R engine would be an excellent on / off trail high mileage beast in my opinion. Would of used it near every weekend when we had back to back to back Friday storms in Southern NB this winter.
Great walk around video. I ride a ‘22 Backcountry X-RS 154” mostly off-trail and I prefer the narrower ski stance for the improved side hilling ability. As noted, the XTerrain has more of a trail bias and I can see how the wider ski stance would be preferable for that.
@@brendanshinn5865I would guess the track is an option. When I ordered my ‘22 XRS I believe the 146” had the option of a 1.6” Cobra or a 2.0” Powdermax. I think the 1.6” would probably be great for most flatland riding. (I went with the 2.5” Powdermax II for my 154” but if I was going to do it again I’d order the 2.0” lug which is sufficient for this machine with the 154” track with the extra flotation. The longer lug is nice on deep days and but it forces me to keep the speed down on the trail for fear of delamination and I generally have to ride 15-20 miles to get to the alpine riding zones I visit most frequently.)
Some background to the xtrerrain ski stance from Nordics, here the xterrain was launched 2019 and from there it only came with 38 inch front. This changed now for the year 23. Now the ski stance is same as Rave 42 inch. The 38 inch front was now only available in spring check with 2,5" lug track for the next year. Personally I like the xterrain a lot. Already owned 2 of them and third one is coming. And that is the narrower 38 inch spring check model. For me it suits better, I like to explore and do the donuts and have bit more agile sled for the freeride days. Even my riding is 80% trails and 20% offtrail. Of course it is lifting the ski more on the trails but if you are used to put your weight on inside corners this is not slowing you down at all. Still it is so light and fun sled to drive and steer for long riding trips. Adventure sled on its best! It can handle all the bumps as good as Rave and it is not in trouble offtrail either. One thing worth to mention is also those more open and bit higher running boards compared to Rave. Those have really good grip and they stay open way better if you go off trail.
Great video fellas! Always informative! I find the wider front end stance more beneficial when it comes to 50/50 sleds. I have come to realize that the narrower stance helps off trail, but it doesn’t make up for what is lost in terms of handling on the trail.
Appreciate your opinions and insight. Respect and enjoy your videos, and always check out the videos when they pop up on my phone. Keep up the great work.
One thing never talked about on this model with the 900R option is that it comes with the post forward. All the skidoo XRS models don't get post forward with 4-stroke option.
Luke, nice review! We ride northern Wisconsin and do not really get enough snow or have a lot of legal off-trail / backcountry opportunities, so for me and where we are, I like the "trail width" of the Lynx XTERRAIN RE versus the Backcountry X/X-RS. It seems this sled most closely competes with a Switchback Assault. This will be a good all around sled and what a lot of people wanted - a capable trail machine with high-end shocks that can pull your ice fishing sled or check your trapline while still being able to play off-trail or on the lakes. We hope to see you and the ST crew at Hay Days!
BTW - I would want the heated visor connection for those cold trail riding days and cold trips out to the lake in all types of weather. This is a capable trail sled and will be used as such. I hope it is standard and not an "accessory". My dealer of choice installs them on every sled as part of their initial setup after having it get missed and too many customers getting their sled back home and realizing it does not have a heated shield outlet as standard. IMO, it should be standard on any trail or crossover machine.
Great review! I prefer the wider track on the Lynx over the narrower Backcountry. I tend to do a bit more trail biased riding so will take the extra handling stability. Love the show and would love some swag! Thanks
As said on the insta these spec’d sleds are the perfect choice for an Ontario flat lander on/off playful powerful and what we have asked for years. I am very thankful brp has brought the Lynx to NA. Well done 👍🏼!
I personally like the narrow front end on the backcountry xrs especially when your off trail it makes a big difference the the trail front end on the trail I find the narrow front end is almost better than the trail front end.
3-Assault previous owner here--with a Rave and ordered this to be my "Assault' as you said. Wonder if tipped rails would add to the setup as the Assault has, or maybe this skid is enough different that it doesn't add anything?
I prefer the wider stance for cornering on trail with little to no ski lift. The narrower stance I find you tend to have that inside ski lift and have to reduce speed in corners. Thanks for a great season of videos, looking forward to next year.
Can't comment on the narrower or wider frontend of BRP sleds, but I did put a narrower frontend on my 42" Arctic Cat. It's now 38" and I don't intend to go back. It was a bear to get on edge, it's way better now. But it does depend on what you do with the sled. If it lives on trail (then why get a crossover, but I agree they look cooler than trail sleds) then wider is probably better, off trail you want a bit narrower. I haven't had any issues with stability, I even pulled off the swaybar, but then again I don't speed down the trails at breakneck speed either. My riding doesn't include many snow highways. It's usually single track "trails" which I need to break myself or just backcountry. In open areas or lakes I don't have too many corners I need to take, so width doesn't matter as much. I think 38" to 40" is a happy spot for crossover sleds. Anyway, it's a nice walkaround of the Lynx. I really prefer this body style over the new Ski-doo's. I get it, that big display needs room to live too and yes, it's theoretically better at snow clearing, but man is it ugly.
Great walk around!!! Have you guys had a chance to ride the 900r lynx? If so what’s your thoughts of how the suspension handles the weight and how does it compare to the xrs 900r you’ve had?
Hello, i am wanting to get into sleds, for racing, cross country , and for pleasure use , just curious what would be a good starting point or choice of sled?
I spring ordered an Xterrain Re, was disappointed with the 42in front end, coming off a Backcountry to this sled i was hoping for a skinnier front end but it was not a dealbreaker. I also wish it came with the DS+ skis. Guess we shall see how I like it next season! Thanks for the review.
I like the narrower front end! I had an assault with the 42” front end and now ride a summit 146 with a 36” front end. I think for what I ride which is Midwest us riding with some up north and west riding the 39” would be a great compromise!
I have been a ski-doo rider for many years. I rode a 2019 Backcountry X for 4000 miles. I purchased a 2022 Polaris Assault (Never received) because of the front end on the Backcountry X was inferior to a Polaris Assault for all around riding. I have ridden many Assaults for many miles. Bottom line the wide front end on the Lynx Xterrrain is exactly what this sled needs. I would have purchased another Backcountry X or XRS if they addressed this issue. If you speak to Backcountry riders in the Mid-West and are 50/50 riders this is the first and mostly the only complaint on the sled-front end in tight trials gets confused. I have played with multiple shock adjustments and carbide lengths and could not get the results I wanted. I will order an Xterrain when they update to the new platform. Hard to beat the run quality of the 850 E-etc and added benefit of the best fuel and oil economy in the industry. If you run and 850 E-etc Vs an 850 Polaris you consistently will use 2 gallons of gas more on every fill up. This adds up over 2-3 years of riding. The Xterrain looks like the perfect sled for a 50/50 rider. I also believe Skidoo/Lynn certainly offer the best technology in the industry and tremendous quality. If you have not taken the time to ride a 146 sled you are missing a ton of fun.
I went to test drive that... tons of fun :) then again, the new Lynx Shredder (yea, they changed the name from docker mainly because of you know..) ;) Btw, whats the name of your little friend? On your right @ 6:10^^
I being a skidoo backcountry guy, do like the narrower front end, because when I’m riding trail I do like to ride a sled hard and go into a corner with that inside ski dancing and just come up with the skies in the air!
Great video Guys ! if I had the option for a wider or narrow front, I would be leaning toward the narrow like the backcountry, cause I find it easy to get on edge and stay on edge, it makes it easier off trail and still handle good on trail ! coming from a summit, here in Quebec we ride all different terrain, I ride trails and lots of backcountry stuff, I ordered my self a 2023 brp backcountry Xrs 146 with 2" hopefully gonna like it, cause I loved my summit a lot, gonna be hard to switch over. have a good day guys and keep the video coming !!
As always great video. Sad the seasons over which means no more videos:( Time to dust off the atv. I prefer a wider front end but tough in tight off trail in the trees. Would love to test out a Lynx. It like like a great machine.
Great segment Luke, thank you. Wider front end is nicer especially since trail ride mostly in Ontario. High speed running and catching some air allows for a more balanced landing. Imo.
I have the wider front end now on the Riot, I do like it for a lot of the type of riding I do but for me personally I have a hard time getting it on its side, and admittedly part of that is just me, but the Narrow front end suites my style of off trail more then a full outright Mountain sled, Im not a youngester anymore but no where near hanging up my snowmobile boots , and love to play in the powder just not to the extreme of Mountain Riders .. Hope that makes sense... but this is why I like the Backcountry and the Xterrain, more so the Brutal , cause that seems like a go anywhere fun sled to explore in.... :)
Being a lighter guy (155lbs) i would be very curious to see how the wider front end preforms in corners compared to my backcountry x. This sled would be the exact sled i would spec out if i was to spring order.
I love your "how the sled sounds" part. Reminds me of exhaust videos 96% of it is how the stock exhaust sounds, and the last 6 seconds is the aftermarket... like I kinda think I know how stock sounds... since its stock...
They knocked it out of the park bringing Lynx to NA. For those of us who are 100 mile a day guys, they're set up well. I don't really care for the big dash and tech and care more about the high end components. Not in the cards for me financially right now but in a few years you can bet I'll be taking a serious look at one of these or a Rave. Love that they keep the pull start too.
Another cool vid. As for the ski stance, as you say, its a trade off. As mostly a trail rider, I'd prefer the wider stance. But when I do go off trail and try to get into some fresh powder, the more narrow stance is likely much more helpful. So, I guess, for me .. wider is better. These Lynx sleds are fantastic. I havent yet ridden one but MAN, I am chomping at the bit to try one. Playful seems to be the common word in any sort of review. Love it! How many sleeps to next season? :P
I'm not sure how much the width would matter. I trail ride a 12' BC:X 800R very aggressively with some off-trail stuff and I don't have any problems cornering and holding speed, and more importantly, my line. It would be interesting to run a section of trail, flip the spacers and run it again to see how much of a different it actually makes.
Question: If these rear skids are (designed/made) for the biggest baddest terrain (un-coupled) in the Assault and Lynx models, why would the XCR and Renegade (coupled) skids be used for cross country racing and snocross? I am a multiple Assault owner and had the Skidoo's years ago. So I am being genuine ---this time. ;)
Gteat review as always guys! If BRP is aiming at a 50/50 sled to compete with the SBA, then I think they made the right choice with the wider ski stance on this Lynx, as the performance of the SBA on and off trail had been the benchmark for years. I just made the switch from a 146 Summit to a SBA specifically because the narrow front end, while awesome off trail, made for a lot of work and some sketchy cornering on trail.
The front end is a non problem for us scandinavians. The Xterrain RE (Race edition) is a trail sled. If you want something more deep snow you´ll buy a Xterrain Pro with a deep snow rear skid (PPS2 DS+) with a 2,6" track and a 36" front end. On the RE I think the wider stance is the way to go.This isn´t a 50/50 crossover. The RE is 70% trail. It´s a beast on trails.
Great review as all of your walk-arounds are! I'm a trail rider so personally l like the wide front. If a 1.5" track was available l'd have one of these in my trailer with the turbo R.
i own a 21 Assault and a 20 SKS,,, i prefer the narrower stance and ability to set the ski stance of the SKS over the Assault. My preference would be the Backcountry set up. thanks for the walk around....
I like the wider front end with the rear bumper killer skid and high-end shocks. This would make Saturday riding much more enjoyable. Little less fear jumping off the trail with the longer skid vs my Renegade XRS.
Great video. Awesome looking sled Luke, I like it a lot. I am not at all familiar with riding with the Backcountry X from Skidoo, but for contest sake, I am choosing the wider Lynx XTERRAIN for the preferred ski stance package 😉. A+++
I prefer the narrower ski stance on the Backcountry as I mostly ride off trail. While we are talking about the Backcountry; I am hoping that when they migrate to the G5 chassis that it will get the narrow body like the Summit and Freeride. Doubt that will be the case though.
I added the pull start to my Expy Xtreme, it cost me a lot of money and a few knuckles. BRP has become the master of post-sale wallet milking. Good on lynx for recognizing this was a feature that everyone wants, and which adds value. As for the front end, a 50/50 crossover, if there is such a thing must have a trail width front end. Anything less is off trail biased. I've ridden a handful of G4 BC's and would classify them as a sled I COULD trail ride if I had to.
My father i law's ( from Finand) old Lynx 5900 form the 80's is stil running smooth.. It awalys works even in -38 celcius, and its gone more the 15K km.. and its stil going strong...
I really like the Lynx sleds and I hope we have a chance to see them here in snow cross. I would prefer the wider front end myself since I ride mainly trails and it should also help with better floatation in the deep snow.
Great review!! I personally like the wider stance for on trail. I don’t ride much off trail but I’m sure the narrower stance would be much better for that type of rider. Will be spring ✔️ a lynx next year missed out for this year. Cheers
I have the 2019 BackCountry XRS 850. The narrower ski stance is nicer for off trail, but is terrible on trail. Cannot touch the Assault 850 on trail. Trying to stay alive chasing the Assault is the priority on trail!
I have a 2020 BCXRS 850. I found it was much more manageable on the trail once I reduced the front spring preload. Try to get those A-arms closer to horizontal with rider weight on the sled and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I can hold my own riding with my buddy on his Indy XC 850 137. The XRS (xtreme racer special) has an aggressive spring package and stock setup. I jacked up the front of the sled to completely unweight the front suspension. I popped the circlips above the preload collar out of the groove and then adjusted the collar until the springs were just coming loose. I then tightened the collar one turn and set my circlips at that location. This is the minimum preload you can safely have and this is where I've had mine the last 3000 miles. If you're happy with that handling you might also consider doing the same with your front track spring preload. Then setup your rear track spring to get 2"-3" of sag with rider weight.
I’m glad you asked our opinion! To me the wide/narrow debate comes down to sidehilling which is a topic seldom mentioned when crossovers are discussed. In my opinion it’s nearly impossible to learn to sidehill with a trail width front end except in the most ideal conditions. If you already know how to sidehill that’s a different story. Your crossover comparisons used to frustrate me. I now realize your definition of a 50/50 crossover doesn’t necessarily require sidehilling but does require trail caliber handling. With that definition a trail front hands down. If you are buying a crossover with a deep lug track with hopes of learning to access areas of the backcountry that require sidehilling I believe the narrow front becomes a better choice.
Great reply. I agree with all of it except learning to sidehill. All the guys I ride with have learned on trail width sleds in less than ideal conditions. It takes ALOT longer to learn, but the second they get on a narrow front end they are so much better at it. I do fully agree though, it all comes down to what you want to do. The Backcountry is slightly more biased to off trail. Which is great if thats how your riding is biased also. And for many, it fits perfectly with how they ride.
Love the lynx front end, i think the narrower backcountry limits its trail handling. Also spring checked the xterrain 2023 and i dont think ive ever been more excited for anything, maybe a swag pack
I wish they would of had this sled in 22 I bought a backcountry. This will be my next sled hopefully they make it in a 600etec. I have a heated visor on my backcountry lol. That would be the main reason I would buy the lynx is for the wider front end.
Great review. I definitely will say I like the idea of the wider front end on the X terrain compared to the back country. Most people that buy crossover sleds spend most of their time on trail so it just makes sense. Set the front end up for what your will be doing most. I still won’t be trading my matryx assault for one though.
Pull start should be standard equipment on all sleds! And IMHO, I would choose the narrow front end if I was off the trail more and vise versa if I were on trail more often. It's nice to see lynx here in north America. I agree on the bogey wheels as well, especially for the amount these new machines go for now. NEVER SUMMER!
I’m a Polaris guy but, man, these Lynx sleds are growing on me!! I think they look better then the Ski-doo sleds and they sound like quite the units!! Thanks for the video gents! - Hope we get a few more walk arounds before the snow melts!
Ditto, Picked up a 23 Rave Re for next year, my first BRP product.
They are a skidoo with a upgraded suspension,
I love my rave. Road a 2022 rr800 cat and I still really like the cats but the rave is just better in most aspects.
I currently run an 850 Assault and seriously considering this sled. Love the wide front end!
me too
I agree with you in the pull start. Why that isn’t standard on all 2-strokes is beyond me. Bizarre change from the 90s when I was paying extra for e-start and now I’m paying for a pull cord!
Only on BRP. They upcharge everything possible.
I really don't get the missing pull start complaint. First of all, there is no pull start on the big 4-strokes, and somehow people don't have any issues with that? They use the exact same E-start setup, and are probably more prone to a no-start situation because they need more power to start. Secondly, this is an Etec. They are super easy to start on the clutch. A friend of mine was riding his e-start Etec for two whole weeks without battery and no recoil. He started it on the clutch like 50 times, and not once did it fail to start on the first pull and not once did he have a sketchy situation.
@@Kowalski301 why didn’t he just use the Estart? Let me guess, the battery didn’t work? Case closed.
In extreme conditions, such as 35 below zero, batteries fail especially if they are 2+ years old. They also add 20 pounds to the weight of the sled. For people who want the ultimate in performance, that 20 pounds is a lot. Ski Doo then comes out with awesome tech in the SHOT start system to combat the weight issue, and in typical BRP fashion they don’t offer it in trail sleds. The company just really limits trail riders in every possible way imaginable, and they’ve been that way for years now.
@@bedlambikes You clearly missed my point. I'm not saying that E-start is "better" than pull start. It's not one or the other we are discussing here! For the record, I have 3 sleds, and not one has E-start because I hate the extra weight too. But the issue we are discussing is if pull start is necessary when the sled already comes with factory E-start like this one, and it's clearly not. It's super easy to do a clutch start if the E-start should fail. You are probably more likely to snap the pull start cord, or break the recoil (both has happened for me) on a pull start only sled, than the E-start failing - thus leaving you with the exact same option: Clutch start which is no problem whatsoever.
@@bedlambikes They upcharge because they can. Class leaders in many sleds
Backcountry X !Have a good summer, Luke. Enjoyed the show very much.
Loving what lynx is doing with sleds and where there going I definitely prefer the narrow front end as we do 90% off trail riding in our area and it definitely makes the sled more playful in many ways thanks for the review
this is AWESOME that you are doing more lynx videos!! love them
Thx for the info just got one had the dealer put on the side panel and medium windshield also the side plates for my feet ,the sled looks great can hardly wait to ride it (maybe next week🤞)
Thank you I'm buying one soon. I needed a video like this. I been looking about a month. Again thanks
I look forward to you guys every year. Season always ends too soon 😩Thanks for the great insights!
This is my next sled. I have a ‘19 backcountry 850 146” now and the next year or two I will pick one of these up. Love it and wish they had it in ‘19. I love my front end but having the slightly wider front end would be more beneficial 60% of the time and is another reason in why as of now this is my next choice. Keep up the great work guys 👍🏻
I’m a mostly an on-trail guy so my vote is for the wider stance of the Xterrain. Love your TV show and UA-cam content, can’t wait for next winter. Take care.
I prefer the wider front end on the Cross over sled. In my 50's and have been riding since I was about 6. Thanks Kirk
I like the wider front end for the trail rides for that good cornering and stability. Great video guys 👍🏻
Hi..great video walk a round. Great to see the comparisons nail down so many aspects of each sled. Northern Minnesota still lends itself to a trail mecca, but with the Lynx Expedition it seems you would get the best of both worlds! Bill J.Duluth.
They had amazing colors options before and I always wished they'd come here and now there here we get red
As an Arctic Cat guy, I love the way you guys review all sleds. Enjoy all of your videos.
I have 22 Renegade xrs turbo R. I like the wider stance but would love that Lynx sled with the Turbo R.
Thanks guys love your videos👊👍
42” front with a 900 turbo R engine would be an excellent on / off trail high mileage beast in my opinion. Would of used it near every weekend when we had back to back to back Friday storms in Southern NB this winter.
Great walk around video. I ride a ‘22 Backcountry X-RS 154” mostly off-trail and I prefer the narrower ski stance for the improved side hilling ability. As noted, the XTerrain has more of a trail bias and I can see how the wider ski stance would be preferable for that.
Super weird that it’s a 2” paddle but they went with a 42 inch wide stance. 🫤
@@brendanshinn5865I would guess the track is an option. When I ordered my ‘22 XRS I believe the 146” had the option of a 1.6” Cobra or a 2.0” Powdermax. I think the 1.6” would probably be great for most flatland riding. (I went with the 2.5” Powdermax II for my 154” but if I was going to do it again I’d order the 2.0” lug which is sufficient for this machine with the 154” track with the extra flotation. The longer lug is nice on deep days and but it forces me to keep the speed down on the trail for fear of delamination and I generally have to ride 15-20 miles to get to the alpine riding zones I visit most frequently.)
@@gregchapdelaine4889 I don’t believe the track is able to be changed unless you get the brutal but then that’s a 20 inch wide track.
Winter hasn't ended in northwestern Ontario. Send it up and I will give you my thoughts!! lol Love the show. Wider for me ; )
Some background to the xtrerrain ski stance from Nordics, here the xterrain was launched 2019 and from there it only came with 38 inch front. This changed now for the year 23. Now the ski stance is same as Rave 42 inch. The 38 inch front was now only available in spring check with 2,5" lug track for the next year.
Personally I like the xterrain a lot. Already owned 2 of them and third one is coming. And that is the narrower 38 inch spring check model. For me it suits better, I like to explore and do the donuts and have bit more agile sled for the freeride days. Even my riding is 80% trails and 20% offtrail.
Of course it is lifting the ski more on the trails but if you are used to put your weight on inside corners this is not slowing you down at all. Still it is so light and fun sled to drive and steer for long riding trips.
Adventure sled on its best! It can handle all the bumps as good as Rave and it is not in trouble offtrail either.
One thing worth to mention is also those more open and bit higher running boards compared to Rave. Those have really good grip and they stay open way better if you go off trail.
Thanks for the video, it has helped narrow down my choice. - Louis from Alaska
Great video fellas! Always informative!
I find the wider front end stance more beneficial when it comes to 50/50 sleds. I have come to realize that the narrower stance helps off trail, but it doesn’t make up for what is lost in terms of handling on the trail.
I really like the Lynx sleds as well. I have a 2020 expedition extreme and love it so I really like the wider front end. Great video as always.
Appreciate your opinions and insight. Respect and enjoy your videos, and always check out the videos when they pop up on my phone. Keep up the great work.
One thing never talked about on this model with the 900R option is that it comes with the post forward. All the skidoo XRS models don't get post forward with 4-stroke option.
Luke, nice review! We ride northern Wisconsin and do not really get enough snow or have a lot of legal off-trail / backcountry opportunities, so for me and where we are, I like the "trail width" of the Lynx XTERRAIN RE versus the Backcountry X/X-RS. It seems this sled most closely competes with a Switchback Assault. This will be a good all around sled and what a lot of people wanted - a capable trail machine with high-end shocks that can pull your ice fishing sled or check your trapline while still being able to play off-trail or on the lakes. We hope to see you and the ST crew at Hay Days!
BTW - I would want the heated visor connection for those cold trail riding days and cold trips out to the lake in all types of weather. This is a capable trail sled and will be used as such. I hope it is standard and not an "accessory". My dealer of choice installs them on every sled as part of their initial setup after having it get missed and too many customers getting their sled back home and realizing it does not have a heated shield outlet as standard. IMO, it should be standard on any trail or crossover machine.
I sold my xcr last weekend I’m planning on getting an assault next season but I don’t know these lynx’s have me reconsidering great video Luke
I’m coming off a 19 renegade xr-s, I’m ordering this xterrain for 2023 season, so sexxxay - much love from Nunavut 🇨🇦
Great review! I prefer the wider track on the Lynx over the narrower Backcountry. I tend to do a bit more trail biased riding so will take the extra handling stability. Love the show and would love some swag! Thanks
Looks great. I would go with the wider skis stance on the XTERRAIN RE for trail riding. Love the vids. Keep up the good work.
I had the 22 backcountry and felt the front could be wider. Ordered the exterrain for next year and I’m stoked it has a wider ski stance!
Do you have a review on the 2024 900 turbo R? Do you see any improvements from last years model?
As said on the insta these spec’d sleds are the perfect choice for an Ontario flat lander on/off playful powerful and what we have asked for years. I am very thankful brp has brought the Lynx to NA. Well done 👍🏼!
I personally like the narrow front end on the backcountry xrs especially when your off trail it makes a big difference the the trail front end on the trail I find the narrow front end is almost better than the trail front end.
We all trail ride with 38 front ends and like it.
All very interesting.
Great walk around review!
Tom
3-Assault previous owner here--with a Rave and ordered this to be my "Assault' as you said. Wonder if tipped rails would add to the setup as the Assault has, or maybe this skid is enough different that it doesn't add anything?
The lynx looks so much better then skidoo. Thx for the review.
Great review , as always! Love your dog!
I want one! I would prefer the wider front because I primarily ride trails and lake. Nice video!
I prefer the wider stance for cornering on trail with little to no ski lift. The narrower stance I find you tend to have that inside ski lift and have to reduce speed in corners.
Thanks for a great season of videos, looking forward to next year.
Can't comment on the narrower or wider frontend of BRP sleds, but I did put a narrower frontend on my 42" Arctic Cat. It's now 38" and I don't intend to go back. It was a bear to get on edge, it's way better now. But it does depend on what you do with the sled. If it lives on trail (then why get a crossover, but I agree they look cooler than trail sleds) then wider is probably better, off trail you want a bit narrower. I haven't had any issues with stability, I even pulled off the swaybar, but then again I don't speed down the trails at breakneck speed either. My riding doesn't include many snow highways. It's usually single track "trails" which I need to break myself or just backcountry. In open areas or lakes I don't have too many corners I need to take, so width doesn't matter as much. I think 38" to 40" is a happy spot for crossover sleds. Anyway, it's a nice walkaround of the Lynx. I really prefer this body style over the new Ski-doo's. I get it, that big display needs room to live too and yes, it's theoretically better at snow clearing, but man is it ugly.
does the 2023 xterrain have the small diameter bars ? does the center grab bar say ski-doo or lynx ? tks
I like the wider front end! Nice video, can't wait for my Lynx to come in!
Great walk around!!! Have you guys had a chance to ride the 900r lynx? If so what’s your thoughts of how the suspension handles the weight and how does it compare to the xrs 900r you’ve had?
Hello, i am wanting to get into sleds, for racing, cross country , and for pleasure use , just curious what would be a good starting point or choice of sled?
I spring ordered an Xterrain Re, was disappointed with the 42in front end, coming off a Backcountry to this sled i was hoping for a skinnier front end but it was not a dealbreaker. I also wish it came with the DS+ skis. Guess we shall see how I like it next season! Thanks for the review.
Greetings, thank you for the video. Are you planning on doing a video on the Xterrain Brutal as well?
Hoping to get our hands on one this season!
Xterrain RE is a serious crossover sled, but its not built for sidehilling. If you want one of those you need to go for boondocker RE(or DS).
Thanks Luke great video. I’d go for the wider ski stance upfront for groom trail riding
You guys have any seat time on the xterrain brutal? Curious on you guys thoughts on it vs the expedition extreme.
I like the narrower front end! I had an assault with the 42” front end and now ride a summit 146 with a 36” front end. I think for what I ride which is Midwest us riding with some up north and west riding the 39” would be a great compromise!
What is the windshield height ? Is that the low or the mid ? By looking online it’s the low ? But looks more like a mid height ?
I have a 2022 Backcountry X. Love the sled, but wish I had the wide front ski stance. My next sled will be the Lynx Xterrain.
I have been a ski-doo rider for many years. I rode a 2019 Backcountry X for 4000 miles. I purchased a 2022 Polaris Assault (Never received) because of the front end on the Backcountry X was inferior to a Polaris Assault for all around riding. I have ridden many Assaults for many miles. Bottom line the wide front end on the Lynx Xterrrain is exactly what this sled needs. I would have purchased another Backcountry X or XRS if they addressed this issue. If you speak to Backcountry riders in the Mid-West and are 50/50 riders this is the first and mostly the only complaint on the sled-front end in tight trials gets confused. I have played with multiple shock adjustments and carbide lengths and could not get the results I wanted. I will order an Xterrain when they update to the new platform. Hard to beat the run quality of the 850 E-etc and added benefit of the best fuel and oil economy in the industry. If you run and 850 E-etc Vs an 850 Polaris you consistently will use 2 gallons of gas more on every fill up. This adds up over 2-3 years of riding. The Xterrain looks like the perfect sled for a 50/50 rider. I also believe Skidoo/Lynn certainly offer the best technology in the industry and tremendous quality. If you have not taken the time to ride a 146 sled you are missing a ton of fun.
Is it like buying a similar ski Doo then buying all the mods. So you pay that much extra for the Lynx
I went to test drive that... tons of fun :) then again, the new Lynx Shredder (yea, they changed the name from docker mainly because of you know..) ;) Btw, whats the name of your little friend? On your right @ 6:10^^
I being a skidoo backcountry guy, do like the narrower front end, because when I’m riding trail I do like to ride a sled hard and go into a corner with that inside ski dancing and just come up with the skies in the air!
Great video Guys !
if I had the option for a wider or narrow front, I would be leaning toward the narrow like the backcountry, cause I find it easy to get on edge and stay on edge, it makes it easier off trail and still handle good on trail ! coming from a summit, here in Quebec we ride all different terrain, I ride trails and lots of backcountry stuff, I ordered my self a 2023 brp backcountry Xrs 146 with 2" hopefully gonna like it, cause I loved my summit a lot, gonna be hard to switch over. have a good day guys and keep the video coming !!
As always great video. Sad the seasons over which means no more videos:( Time to dust off the atv.
I prefer a wider front end but tough in tight off trail in the trees. Would love to test out a Lynx. It like like a great machine.
Love how your doggo came running everytime he thought you were going to rip. For my style of riding I would prefer the wider stance
I like the backcountry narrower front end have a 2022 backcountry xrs and find it still does well on trail and off!
Great segment Luke, thank you. Wider front end is nicer especially since trail ride mostly in Ontario. High speed running and catching some air allows for a more balanced landing. Imo.
I love the wide option for this sled. I personally would like to 900 turbo because I do mostly on trail riding.
I prefer the narrow front end for better side visibility and looks. Where is this video made?
Snowtrax - waiting the testride video. 😉
This video is on our channel.
@@snowtrax Great! Thanks.
3:45 the RE literally stands for racing edition actually :D
I like the wider front end. Handles great on the trail and still works off trail.
I have the wider front end now on the Riot, I do like it for a lot of the type of riding I do but for me personally I have a hard time getting it on its side, and admittedly part of that is just me, but the Narrow front end suites my style of off trail more then a full outright Mountain sled, Im not a youngester anymore but no where near hanging up my snowmobile boots , and love to play in the powder just not to the extreme of Mountain Riders .. Hope that makes sense... but this is why I like the Backcountry and the Xterrain, more so the Brutal , cause that seems like a go anywhere fun sled to explore in.... :)
Being a lighter guy (155lbs) i would be very curious to see how the wider front end preforms in corners compared to my backcountry x. This sled would be the exact sled i would spec out if i was to spring order.
I love your "how the sled sounds" part. Reminds me of exhaust videos 96% of it is how the stock exhaust sounds, and the last 6 seconds is the aftermarket... like I kinda think I know how stock sounds... since its stock...
They knocked it out of the park bringing Lynx to NA. For those of us who are 100 mile a day guys, they're set up well. I don't really care for the big dash and tech and care more about the high end components. Not in the cards for me financially right now but in a few years you can bet I'll be taking a serious look at one of these or a Rave. Love that they keep the pull start too.
what about Lynx Commander?
I prefer the wider front end. Great video as always thanks.
Another cool vid.
As for the ski stance, as you say, its a trade off. As mostly a trail rider, I'd prefer the wider stance. But when I do go off trail and try to get into some fresh powder, the more narrow stance is likely much more helpful. So, I guess, for me .. wider is better.
These Lynx sleds are fantastic. I havent yet ridden one but MAN, I am chomping at the bit to try one. Playful seems to be the common word in any sort of review. Love it!
How many sleeps to next season? :P
I'm not sure how much the width would matter. I trail ride a 12' BC:X 800R very aggressively with some off-trail stuff and I don't have any problems cornering and holding speed, and more importantly, my line. It would be interesting to run a section of trail, flip the spacers and run it again to see how much of a different it actually makes.
Question: If these rear skids are (designed/made) for the biggest baddest terrain (un-coupled) in the Assault and Lynx models, why would the XCR and Renegade (coupled) skids be used for cross country racing and snocross? I am a multiple Assault owner and had the Skidoo's years ago. So I am being genuine ---this time. ;)
Gteat review as always guys! If BRP is aiming at a 50/50 sled to compete with the SBA, then I think they made the right choice with the wider ski stance on this Lynx, as the performance of the SBA on and off trail had been the benchmark for years. I just made the switch from a 146 Summit to a SBA specifically because the narrow front end, while awesome off trail, made for a lot of work and some sketchy cornering on trail.
I’d go with the wider front if it comes with a quick disconnect swaybar link like the Freeride! Then you can get the best of both in a fast way.
Definitely the wider front end for where I live and the riding that I do. I think it gives more options
The front end is a non problem for us scandinavians. The Xterrain RE (Race edition) is a trail sled. If you want something more deep snow you´ll buy a Xterrain Pro with a deep snow rear skid (PPS2 DS+) with a 2,6" track and a 36" front end. On the RE I think the wider stance is the way to go.This isn´t a 50/50 crossover. The RE is 70% trail. It´s a beast on trails.
Great review as all of your walk-arounds are! I'm a trail rider so personally l like the wide front. If a 1.5" track was available l'd have one of these in my trailer with the turbo R.
i own a 21 Assault and a 20 SKS,,, i prefer the narrower stance and ability to set the ski stance of the SKS over the Assault. My preference would be the Backcountry set up. thanks for the walk around....
Does it have tipped rails?
I like the wider front end with the rear bumper killer skid and high-end shocks. This would make Saturday riding much more enjoyable. Little less fear jumping off the trail with the longer skid vs my Renegade XRS.
Great video. Awesome looking sled Luke, I like it a lot. I am not at all familiar with riding with the Backcountry X from Skidoo, but for contest sake, I am choosing the wider Lynx XTERRAIN for the preferred ski stance package 😉.
A+++
I prefer the narrower ski stance on the Backcountry as I mostly ride off trail. While we are talking about the Backcountry; I am hoping that when they migrate to the G5 chassis that it will get the narrow body like the Summit and Freeride. Doubt that will be the case though.
Such a sweet sled looks like it would be fun in the back country in the powder I think the wider front end is pretty nice it would be stable 😊
I added the pull start to my Expy Xtreme, it cost me a lot of money and a few knuckles. BRP has become the master of post-sale wallet milking. Good on lynx for recognizing this was a feature that everyone wants, and which adds value. As for the front end, a 50/50 crossover, if there is such a thing must have a trail width front end. Anything less is off trail biased. I've ridden a handful of G4 BC's and would classify them as a sled I COULD trail ride if I had to.
My father i law's ( from Finand) old Lynx 5900 form the 80's is stil running smooth.. It awalys works even in -38 celcius, and its gone more the 15K km.. and its stil going strong...
I really like the Lynx sleds and I hope we have a chance to see them here in snow cross. I would prefer the wider front end myself since I ride mainly trails and it should also help with better floatation in the deep snow.
Great review!! I personally like the wider stance for on trail. I don’t ride much off trail but I’m sure the narrower stance would be much better for that type of rider. Will be spring ✔️ a lynx next year missed out for this year. Cheers
I have the 2019 BackCountry XRS 850. The narrower ski stance is nicer for off trail, but is terrible on trail. Cannot touch the Assault 850 on trail. Trying to stay alive chasing the Assault is the priority on trail!
I have a 2020 BCXRS 850. I found it was much more manageable on the trail once I reduced the front spring preload. Try to get those A-arms closer to horizontal with rider weight on the sled and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I can hold my own riding with my buddy on his Indy XC 850 137. The XRS (xtreme racer special) has an aggressive spring package and stock setup. I jacked up the front of the sled to completely unweight the front suspension. I popped the circlips above the preload collar out of the groove and then adjusted the collar until the springs were just coming loose. I then tightened the collar one turn and set my circlips at that location. This is the minimum preload you can safely have and this is where I've had mine the last 3000 miles. If you're happy with that handling you might also consider doing the same with your front track spring preload. Then setup your rear track spring to get 2"-3" of sag with rider weight.
I’m glad you asked our opinion! To me the wide/narrow debate comes down to sidehilling which is a topic seldom mentioned when crossovers are discussed. In my opinion it’s nearly impossible to learn to sidehill with a trail width front end except in the most ideal conditions. If you already know how to sidehill that’s a different story. Your crossover comparisons used to frustrate me. I now realize your definition of a 50/50 crossover doesn’t necessarily require sidehilling but does require trail caliber handling. With that definition a trail front hands down. If you are buying a crossover with a deep lug track with hopes of learning to access areas of the backcountry that require sidehilling I believe the narrow front becomes a better choice.
Great reply. I agree with all of it except learning to sidehill. All the guys I ride with have learned on trail width sleds in less than ideal conditions. It takes ALOT longer to learn, but the second they get on a narrow front end they are so much better at it. I do fully agree though, it all comes down to what you want to do. The Backcountry is slightly more biased to off trail. Which is great if thats how your riding is biased also. And for many, it fits perfectly with how they ride.
I like the wider front end… I’d say it doesn’t impact off trail at all and helps cornering while on trail.
Love the lynx front end, i think the narrower backcountry limits its trail handling. Also spring checked the xterrain 2023 and i dont think ive ever been more excited for anything, maybe a swag pack
I wish they would of had this sled in 22 I bought a backcountry. This will be my next sled hopefully they make it in a 600etec. I have a heated visor on my backcountry lol. That would be the main reason I would buy the lynx is for the wider front end.
Great review. I definitely will say I like the idea of the wider front end on the X terrain compared to the back country. Most people that buy crossover sleds spend most of their time on trail so it just makes sense. Set the front end up for what your will be doing most. I still won’t be trading my matryx assault for one though.
Pull start should be standard equipment on all sleds! And IMHO, I would choose the narrow front end if I was off the trail more and vise versa if I were on trail more often. It's nice to see lynx here in north America. I agree on the bogey wheels as well, especially for the amount these new machines go for now.
NEVER SUMMER!
I think the wider front-end is a plus for handling and cornering at higher speeds.
I own an 2014 backcountry x 800r etec. I like it and I'm sure I'll like the lynx xterrain re 850