Raspberry Pi 3 USB SSD Boot

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  • Booting a Raspberry Pi 3 from an SSD connected via a USB adapter. Includes demo of the Etcher image writer, which is available at: etcher.io/
    Please note that the process shown in this video remains experimental and hence should be undertaken at your own risk.
    Please also note that you can boot a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ from USB without having to go through the process shown in this video. Only the first Raspberry Pi 3 needs re-configuring for USB boot. The Pi 3 B+ is pre-configured for USB boot.
    If you like this video, you may also enjoy some of my other Raspberry Pi videos including:
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    More videos on computing-related topics can be found at: / explainingcomputers
    You may also like my ExplainingTheFuture channel at: / explainingthefuture
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  • @rickdacosta1889
    @rickdacosta1889 3 роки тому +3

    You are a natural teacher...with just the right amount of levity and light-hearted banter to keep your students engaged. Thanks.

  • @martinmchugh1924
    @martinmchugh1924 6 років тому +6

    Just like to echo many of the comments on here. You're videos are excellently presented. Good relevant content and very concisely explained throughout. Keep up the good work. It is appreciated.

  • @dirk4926
    @dirk4926 7 років тому +1

    Very cool how the Pi just keeps getting more and more versatile.
    I always enjoy, and learn something new from your videos, Christopher.

  • @wattage
    @wattage 7 років тому +5

    Incredibly useful tutorial! I shared a link to your vid on a group of RPi/Retro gaming enthusiasts on FB. Thank you!

  • @sheldonwhitten990
    @sheldonwhitten990 6 років тому +104

    "this old SSD I have lying around"
    I wish I had SSDs lying around

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  6 років тому +18

      A result of my age and occupation! :)

    • @sheldonwhitten990
      @sheldonwhitten990 6 років тому +4

      @@ExplainingComputers maybe someday I'll have that many

    • @TheEPROM9
      @TheEPROM9 5 років тому +2

      I can vouch for that. Go though your bins and pack rat kit you will end up with all sorts of hardwre just laying around.

    • @itstricky2801
      @itstricky2801 5 років тому +1

      Save your money, or go Panhandle at the Truck stop

    • @tinkmarshino
      @tinkmarshino 5 років тому +1

      @@TheEPROM9 yeah but all mine is from before windows 3.1 agp cards anyone?

  • @XRavenHunt
    @XRavenHunt 4 роки тому +11

    Great video.
    I am running my Raspberry 3B+ on SSD just like that.
    Works great because it allows me to run server applications that would normally fail on SD cards.
    Overally, however, the speeds are not that great, hundred times better than SD card, but the USB2 interface is a huge bottleneck.
    This should be much less of a problem with Raspberry 4 on USB 3.0

  • @highdesert50
    @highdesert50 7 років тому +2

    A timely and, as usual, very thorough presentation. Nice upgrade for schools and those on a limited budget by allowing near desktop performance without worrying about high IO demands to the SD.

  • @Praxibetel-Ix
    @Praxibetel-Ix 3 місяці тому +1

    It's not every day where I find an old EC video that I haven't seen yet. You ought to do this again with the Pi 5!

  • @wecole
    @wecole 6 років тому +3

    The extra little commentaries he throws into his videos always crack me up! "...unsafe mode, which is always an exciting thing to do, isn't it?...."

    • @wecole
      @wecole 6 років тому +2

      BTW, I just purchased a new Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (June, 2018) and the one-time programmable memory bit (program_usb_boot_mode=1) was already pre-set to 1 at the factory.

  • @RCfromtheNYC
    @RCfromtheNYC 7 років тому +6

    Thanks for the tutorial! The mad scientist in me is going to try running RetroPie off of an SSD...stay tuned!

  • @aparicorn4482
    @aparicorn4482 7 років тому +1

    This is interesting to say the least I'm glad to hear etcher will verify that it went through the first time

  • @harveyharbicht4959
    @harveyharbicht4959 4 роки тому +1

    I like your videos and the laid-back way you get excited.

    • @harveyharbicht4959
      @harveyharbicht4959 4 роки тому

      Normal person: Yahoo Yippy Whoo hoo yeah!
      This guy: Well, that's quite nice, isn't it?

  • @CorpusOrganic
    @CorpusOrganic 7 років тому +3

    thanks for that vid. i haven't been keeping up with the raspberry stuff.
    i had trouble finding the LED when you were talking about it flashing. i finally found it after a few seconds. it sounds like the SD card boot is still possible too. which is nice. really liked seeing that page on your sight. not certain i have looked over your site yet. that page looks like it would be a fascinating read. that looks like it is the type of information i like.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +3

      Yes, the LEDs are hard to see! And also yes, you can still boot from the SD card (the Pi tries SD first, then USB).

  • @wishiwasabear
    @wishiwasabear 6 років тому +191

    "This Old SSD I have lying around" are we here already? I am still using hard drives here...

    • @leytonjay
      @leytonjay 6 років тому +4

      Kuma You gotta steal them from work. I liberated a 120GB SDDUltra which had been on a spare desk in design area for weeks. £2 usb connector from UA-cam and I was in business.

    • @AdamJee923
      @AdamJee923 6 років тому +7

      The word on the web is soon it will be 'I just had this old 1TB m.2 lying around' true story.

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 6 років тому +11

      Just the usual UA-cam guys stuff, "Oops, I jist found this Gtx 1080Ti lying around"

    • @vipervidsgamingplus5723
      @vipervidsgamingplus5723 6 років тому +3

      hell I still use a ata drive for a disk drive

    • @dastanharris
      @dastanharris 6 років тому +4

      and I just found this core i7 8700k processor lying around for a test with this pi. soon! 😅

  • @1532duvet
    @1532duvet 7 років тому +1

    Worked first time and runs like a dream. Using a usb drive and boot time is faster. Find these videos really helpful and consider myself as a novice amateur. Thanks Chris!!!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому

      An excellent result then! I'm glad that it worked for you. :)

  • @Butterfingers1989
    @Butterfingers1989 7 років тому +1

    Sir, i simply love your videos and how clear you all this stuff. On a normal pc i know how to find my way but with these little one board computers i have to learn alot. Thanks for helping me in all this. Keep up the good work !

  • @Demanufacturer
    @Demanufacturer 5 років тому +4

    Thanks for your vids. Have watched many videos, always well executed and with the correct thought process. Keep it up!

  • @JasonPhillips30
    @JasonPhillips30 7 років тому +3

    You're a knowledgeable and well spoken man.
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @AdamJee923
    @AdamJee923 6 років тому

    Such great videos sir. I'm brand new to all of this, learnt to and built my gaming rig ( first build ) end of last year and I have just bought a Raspberry Pi 3 model B ( Perfect time to buy in on one! ) and you videos help so thank you, keep doing what you are doing.

  • @mradaChris
    @mradaChris 6 років тому

    Thank you for doing this video. I see that my goal of getting a R-Pi3 to boot in less than 2-3 seconds is an unreality!

  • @robertpendergast2620
    @robertpendergast2620 7 років тому +4

    Thanks. I have been interested in bypassing the SD card. (I think I will wait until it is perfected though and no longer dangerous to my Pi setup.)

  • @MrMajintiger
    @MrMajintiger 5 років тому +7

    play with the new pi4 config.txt file really waiting on that video.. also my pi in the mail ! love your show.. also not this video but a week with the pi.. you showed raspbian dosent handle ntfs by default.. this drove me crazy ended up making my storage ext4. as ntfs is normally used i do a lot of swapping. thanks to your video i actually solved it googled it but got no love or good answers. love your old school pace and uk flare. respect

  • @RightToSelfDefense
    @RightToSelfDefense 6 років тому +1

    You make excellent example and tutorial videos.
    A true lesson in all forms of Pedagogy.

  • @NortelGeek
    @NortelGeek 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this most informative video, Mr. Barnatt. Always a pleasure!

  • @drTERRRORRR
    @drTERRRORRR 5 років тому +17

    "How exciting!"
    That's probably the most british thing I've heard today.

  • @oldtimeengineer26
    @oldtimeengineer26 7 років тому +7

    Thanks for showing we can now use larger cheap usb stick

  • @PU7MZD
    @PU7MZD 7 років тому +1

    An instant classic. Can't wait to try this out with a spare netbook HDD I have and my Pi3. Thank you so much!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +3

      Thanks. :) Remember that a Pi will not be able to power an HDD directly.

  • @GhostPressures
    @GhostPressures 7 років тому +1

    Just wanted to say thanks for this! I am setting up a RACHEL-Pi for a school in Namibia and have been looking at PiDrive as an alternative to the MicroSD due to corruption and power outages. This is way better!

  • @pmr1wrt53
    @pmr1wrt53 7 років тому +3

    Today I tested it with a usb2.0/sata docking station for 2.5"/3.5" Drives and a 3.5" WD Blue 160 GB hard disk. This works great.
    The only problem is you can't resize the hdd with gparted after you started RPi 3 Jessie. I think it must be earlier, after fetching the image on the hdd.
    The new RPi 2B v1.2 has the same SoC as the RPi 3B the BCM2837. (ARM Cortex-A53 quad-core processor 900MHz - Broadcom BCM2837).
    Only the CPU speed limit has down to 900 MHz en it's now 64-bit.
    Thanks for this great video, never thought it was so simple!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому

      Thanks for this feedback, which is really useful for others here. In my tests Raspbian resized its partition on first boot. But if this does not happen, you should be able to use the Pi's preferences/setting panel to do a resize.

    • @dennismaltz5643
      @dennismaltz5643 5 років тому

      My wife works for a 3d fabricating company that has been using Pi. They configure them for controlling installation elements, including interactive media for their displays, like you see in museums, zoos, lobbies etc. They gave me a 3B to play with and all has gone well until I've been trying to boot from usb.
      I first bought an ADATA SU650 120 gb ssd, couldn't resist at $22 on Ebay. I used Raspian's own "copy SD card" app from nthe desktop intended for cloning, which wrote to my SSD while plugged into the RPI usb. Worked great, looks good. For the moment, the ssd is being powered by an old all-in-one powered setup used for benchwork with harddrives (don't know what they're called. It works as a drive but won't even attempt to boot.
      For testing, I cloned the same way to a 2nd but greater capacity sd card, via usb card reader. This cloned card works perfectly as a replacement card in the sd slot, but is problematic if I try to boot it via usb (original card has the same troubles). The attempted boot achieves varying results which I guess can happen because the read order is not consistent. There has to be a simple fix in the way of a pointer or moving file/s, but I haven't the experience to do more than keep searching.
      With the cloned sd I've even gotten to fully booted only to see it die immediately. More often it freezes during post at one of 2 places. Keeping an sd internally doesn't help. I am guessing that maybe the solution of leaving the boot partition on an internal sd, pointing to root via the usb should work, but that should not be necessary. I can't find any info that might help. It was suggested that the partition order can be an issue. I was wondering if Etcher might do something different, but it doesn't make sense that the Raspian native copier wouldn't work for using a cloned disk via usb, especially with how long they've had if it needed a fix. Noting again the cloned sd does work as an internal drive replacement.
      casePi is not the plus and needed the otp bit set. Does only the plus arrive with the OTP already set? If mine should have come already set, maybe that remains a problem even though I manually set it.

  • @odieodie8905
    @odieodie8905 5 років тому +3

    You I can trust
    Thanks for all of your insight💡

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 7 років тому +2

    Cool! That was easy to understand. Thanks! I look forward to whatever you do next week!

  • @stupossibleify
    @stupossibleify 7 років тому +3

    Great video! Remember that for those of us watching on the TV, the buttons at the end of the video don't display ;)

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому

      Yes, indeed. But there are pressures on us UA-camrs to use end screens . . . They don't work in some Android browsers either.

  • @semperparatus3685
    @semperparatus3685 5 років тому +10

    Professor, Where can I download that yellow box with the three black arrows so I can spped up my computer to ridiculous speed or is that a secret time compression prgm available only to CompSci Profs???

  • @jonmoore1614
    @jonmoore1614 5 років тому +4

    Of note - newer units that go out have this setting already set (purchased mine Nov 2018)

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  5 років тому

      Yes, this is true -- the Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and A+ are preset for this; so this video covers what is necessary for a Pi 3 B only.

  • @DavidJJJ
    @DavidJJJ 7 років тому +1

    Excellent! So good that we can finally boot from something other than sd!

  • @AK-gt8zy
    @AK-gt8zy 6 років тому

    I love this guy. He explains everything so WELL.

  • @chimeranzl9147
    @chimeranzl9147 5 років тому +3

    how exciting, hahaa, love it. It should be noted that doing this with a SATA or SAS drive may not work, as the Rpi can't provide enough power out it's USB port to power those drives

  • @ufohunter3688
    @ufohunter3688 7 років тому +5

    Very informative video. Thanks.
    Why hasn't some one figured out a way to use the CSI ports to come up with a USB 3.0 daughter board for the Pi ?
    The hardware is there for high bandwidth transfer! You might even be able to emulate 2 x USB 3.0 ports by muxing!
    That would be awesome.

  • @skycarl
    @skycarl 7 років тому +1

    Just want to say thanks. Great info as usual. Please keep up the good work.

  • @Hex-Mas
    @Hex-Mas 4 роки тому +1

    This video was very informative. Explaines better then others on youtube. Thanks.

  • @E3Property
    @E3Property 5 років тому +12

    Please try this on your Raspberry Pi 4 with USB3, it would be very interesting to know if it becomes a truly usable desktop.

    • @Trashpanda5568
      @Trashpanda5568 5 років тому

      i was just about to suggest this!

    • @alerey4363
      @alerey4363 5 років тому

      indeed he made a correct prediction with usb3 in the recent pi4!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  5 років тому +1

      Currently the USB 3.0 ports on the Pi 4B are not bootable. But they have promised a future software upgrade to make this so. :)

    • @E3Property
      @E3Property 5 років тому

      @@ExplainingComputers Of course you are right but it can boot from an SD whilst loading most of the OS and applications from an SSD. I hope this will make it a truly usable desktop computer.

  • @KuntalGhosh
    @KuntalGhosh 7 років тому +117

    They should add some sata ports to the next version of raspberry pi!! It would be great if there is m.2 x4 pic slot for ultra fasf data transfer...

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +51

      Next week here I will be looking at an SBC with a SATA port and two M.2 slots . . .

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh 7 років тому +1

      ExplainingComputers 2x m.2 rip!!! M.2 sata or m.2 pci express 4x?

    • @josedourado3747
      @josedourado3747 7 років тому +1

      ExplainingComputers udoo x86 ultra would be awesome

    • @clangerbasher
      @clangerbasher 7 років тому +14

      For a while now I said the Foundation should build an enthusiast's board with SATA and a lot of RAM etc. as an additional income stream to fund other cheaper lines.

    • @Shmoozo55
      @Shmoozo55 7 років тому +2

      @ExplainingComputers I'm very much looking forward to that next video. I'm guessing that an SBC with those types of storage attachment ports could have a relatively powerful processor, a fast ethernet port and maybe even USB 3.0 ports as well.

  • @ellooku
    @ellooku 7 років тому +1

    What a wonderful update. I tried that before and no luck. Will try again after update.

  • @thecaptain2281
    @thecaptain2281 7 років тому +1

    This was really cool! Didn't know you had to jump through any hoops to get it booting to USB though.

  • @Cardcaptor.Zakura
    @Cardcaptor.Zakura 7 років тому +4

    What is the SATA adapter you are using, and where can I find it?
    I need a proper one since my current USB SATA adapter is from an external hard disk.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +1

      The one I used came "free" with a Samsung SSD some years ago. Any SATA to USB adapter should work -- the trick, if you are buying one for a Pi, is not spending too much for a USB 3.0 one (which will work, but the Pi only has USB 2.0). So something like this on Amazon (which happens to be USB 3) should be fine: www.amazon.com/Tuscom-Super-Speed-USB-3-0/dp/B01MTCMNAL/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502027806&sr=1-12&keywords=usb%2B2.0%2BSATA%2Badapter&th=1 Note that if you want to connect a HDD to a Pi, rather than an SSD, that your adapter will need a means of powering the drive, as a Pi cannot power an HDD, only an SSD.

  • @JerryDoe
    @JerryDoe 7 років тому +3

    probably much easier installing raspbian onto the sd and remap /etc, /usr, /home to the SDD
    then your system boot speed isnt affected by the bottleneck, easier installation and your data is also safe on the SSD
    make an image from the SD after re-configuring the folders and you have a fresh install ready to restore if anything happens to it

  • @cyberlizardcouk
    @cyberlizardcouk 7 років тому +2

    agreed on the usb3 matter. that would make an amazing difference.

  • @stuartmallett6334
    @stuartmallett6334 7 років тому

    Hello, just wanted to say I enjoy your videos very much, keep up the good work.

  • @mayankshigaonker7725
    @mayankshigaonker7725 5 років тому +3

    Lucky for Chris the raspberry pi 4 has a USB 3.0 Port

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  5 років тому +2

      Indeed! But sadly, it is not yet bootable on the Pi 4B, unlike on the Pi 3B and 3B+ . . .

    • @christiaansteenkamp5617
      @christiaansteenkamp5617 5 років тому

      @@ExplainingComputers Awww man I was about to ask you if it works on the pi4. I just finished writing burning raspian to a ssd...

  • @basilsunnyalukka4491
    @basilsunnyalukka4491 7 років тому +20

    Love the videos.
    Why don't you make a video on making a quadcopter using raspberry pi

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +18

      What a great idea! :)

    • @basilsunnyalukka4491
      @basilsunnyalukka4491 7 років тому

      ExplainingComputers thank you sir. :)

    • @basilsunnyalukka4491
      @basilsunnyalukka4491 7 років тому

      I saw a PDF file based on making it using pi zero. you can Google it if u want it.

    • @USMCDAD47
      @USMCDAD47 7 років тому +4

      Why not a video on using a Pi to make a Time Machine?

    • @onnozweers
      @onnozweers 7 років тому +4

      To build a time machine, you'll need a Raspberry Omega 5729 which would be released in the year 6485. Unfortunately, humanity will have destroyed itself before that time, delaying the release infinitely. They will be available in some parallel universes though.

  • @williamheckman4597
    @williamheckman4597 7 років тому +1

    Another excellent video about small computing. Love this channel.

  • @briianhebert
    @briianhebert 7 років тому +2

    Thank you for the video, great info as always. I too look forward to RasPi having USB 3

  • @freesaxon6835
    @freesaxon6835 7 років тому +4

    I tried this on my raspberry pie, and it baked it (^^) :-)
    Interesting development thanks

  • @AOBAboOmer
    @AOBAboOmer 7 років тому +3

    I have raspberry pi 3 but I can't understand all of code , it is complex 😡😡😡😡😡

  • @spikekent
    @spikekent 7 років тому +1

    Superb walk through Chris, thank you.

  • @johanlaurasia
    @johanlaurasia 7 років тому +1

    Very much enjoy your channel, always interesting, well made videos.

  • @VINAYAKTARE0
    @VINAYAKTARE0 7 років тому +3

    For booting for the first time,, sd or usb required ...
    my query is whether for the next time the sd card will be required for the booting or not ?

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +2

      No, the SD card is not required for booting on any occasion (if you have a USB device inserted with an OS installed). What you saw int he final segment was a cold boot, without an SD card, and this is how it boots each time. :)

  • @asphixmx
    @asphixmx 7 років тому +5

    Some hard disk won't boot. Some usb-sata adapters won't let boot either. Don't be surprised if you try and the pi doesn't boot. I made some experiments with this and found even some USB pen drives boot, some doesn't. The same to the usb-sata adapters.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +2

      Useful feedback, thanks.

    • @pedroramonalmeida918
      @pedroramonalmeida918 6 років тому

      I am trying so hard to boot from my SSD OCZ 480GB or my WD blue 512 GB but only the usb flash drive 8GB from china work with the raspberian Stretch. For the SSD ans WD I user a Orico adapter also another one adaptet usb 2.0 with dedicated power supply. Do you think the problem can be the supply current to ssd or hdd?

  • @infidelgermany
    @infidelgermany 7 років тому +1

    This video came just right! I fried my first SD card 2 days ago while playing a browser game for a bit to long...

  • @RobLeonard
    @RobLeonard 6 років тому

    I love your videos. You seem like a genuinely nice guy too. Didn’t have you subscribed. Didn’t realize it but the situation has been sorted!

  • @JohnSmith-bh4zx
    @JohnSmith-bh4zx 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, would this be possible with the Raspberry Pi 4? If so could you do a video showing how?

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 роки тому +3

      Not yet possible on a Pi 4. USB boot is promised for a future update . . . I will certainly cover it in a video when the update is released.

  • @tibssy1982
    @tibssy1982 5 років тому +4

    If you are running linux on that laptop to write the image to drive, why don't you use just dd?

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 5 років тому +5

      One of the benefits the etcher site mentions is that it's a cross-platform tool. I think that makes it a good choice for a video like this, where the audience may not be running Linux on their laptop or desktop machines

  • @thomascott7425
    @thomascott7425 7 років тому +1

    Mister Barnatt, as usual, a great video on a terrific topic. I want to tell you that I look forward to your next postings. Now I can only wait for 2018 for the Pi 4 and hopefully, it will have not only a USB 3 but with luck something faster s well. Thank you. 73

  • @send2gl
    @send2gl 7 років тому +1

    Very well presented. Clear and precise.

  • @XarilaosXatzivasiliou
    @XarilaosXatzivasiliou 6 років тому +4

    or run berryboot and load any OS from any usb device

    • @onnozweers
      @onnozweers 4 роки тому

      Berryboot is awesome. It still needs an SD to boot, though.

  • @tractorman7733
    @tractorman7733 7 років тому +4

    I like your channel !!!

  • @rivertees
    @rivertees Рік тому +1

    Thanks again, the second time today your tutorials have helped me.

  • @delmonti
    @delmonti 7 років тому +2

    Another well produced & written vid.

  • @TotoFrancey
    @TotoFrancey 7 років тому +37

    I liked this video, but I couldn't help but think that this whole single board computing thing has started to lose its original focus. If Chris hadn't made this video, then I'm sure somebody else would have. When single board computing started, especially with the introduction of the Raspberry Pi line, the intent was to encourage the user to develop applications in which the board could do something besides desktop computing. Given the small size this became much easier than before. What I see happening is the Raspberry Pi line (with the exception of the Raspberry Pi Zero) and other lines of single board computers (they're all guilty here) is that companies are creating devices which are becoming single board desktop or laptop computers. Something to check the Facebook with. The problem is with us, the user. We are just not creative or innovative enough to come up with the multitude of applications the single board computer could be used for. When I studied electronics for a second time in the early 1980's in a community college atmosphere (the first time was in the mid 1950s and it primarily involved fixing vacuum tube televisions and radios) I wrote an assembly language program for the 8088 processor which would run a series of eight traffic lights in a small town. At the time I was blown away with how small yet powerful electronics had become. Today they are so much smaller and so much more powerful, yet in my opinion we could be doing so much more than to use them to communicate or entertain ourselves. In a way I am hoping the next generation of Raspberry Pi doesn't have a USB 3.0 or SATA port onboard. more memory and a stronger processor would be nice and maybe an on/off switch. But if the Raspberry Pi Foundation doesn't put the USB 3.0 or SATA port on then I am sure some other company will. Keep up the good work Chris.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +13

      Thanks for a great post. You make a really great point. The Pi, and at least some other SBCs, were initially intended to let people experiment, and to do as you say other kinds of computing stuff. But a lot of users now use SBCs for "traditional" purposes. So the SBC world will, I think, split -- into higher end devices that are more like desktop PCs (but also useful for things like robotics), and lower cost devices that maybe people will (or will not!) experiment with for IoT and other purposes. This said, even when set up as a "desktop" PC, the Pi still allows people to experiment with computing in a way they dare not do with their traditional laptop or desktop. And some people here do report using a Pi or similar SBC as a traditional computer. Next week's video may also stir things up at bit, as I am reviewing an UDOOx86 Advanced Plus -- a powerful SBC with a great many operating system and connectivity and boot options . . . and this gets us back into traditional desktop territory, even though that is not (alone) the purpose of the board. :)

    • @anullhandle
      @anullhandle 7 років тому +2

      An on/off switch would be nice but USB3 a/o SATA and a LAN port that isn't throttled would be nice for say a cheap NAS solution. What do you think a rpi4 should look like, something that encourages more physical computing?

    • @alessandrotrezza37
      @alessandrotrezza37 7 років тому +9

      TotoFrancey just google rpi project and you will be amazed about how many awesome ad various project has been made whit rpi. One of those is also "transform" it to a "desktop" computer. I don't think that is stopping the progress of SBC is the solution of the problem you mentioned. In this moment i can't think a good way to use usb3 or sata in particular project, but I'm sure that many people will do. 👍
      You can still buy an Arduino 😉😉

    • @jlewwis1995
      @jlewwis1995 7 років тому

      ExplainingComputers What are the specs of the Udoo like? Also what are the boot option? Since it's an x86 board (is it actually x86 or is it 64 bit) does it come with Windows built in or does it not come with an os like the pi?

    • @doc8125
      @doc8125 6 років тому +5

      I really do not understand the problem ... so what if raspberry PIs are getting more like computers? You still have the ability to tinker with it, but users like me can still use it for media stuff. There is no reason for it to not work for both instences. Me personally would love to see a 3.0 port or maby even a SATA port for me to able to use it for my use case, but i see no reason for that to harm you in any way, since you will still be able to tinker with it all you like

  • @adarshsingh764
    @adarshsingh764 7 років тому +7

    Now I can die in peace.

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr 6 років тому +2

    And it actually worked! Amazing.

  • @bluehornet6752
    @bluehornet6752 6 років тому +1

    Your command line history is written to the .bash_history file when you exit, so that's why it's still "in the buffer"...
    Awesome selection of videos on your channel by the way--very educational and helpful stuff!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  6 років тому

      Thanks! :)

    • @bluehornet6752
      @bluehornet6752 6 років тому

      No problem. I've been working on my Linux certification and my brain is full of (seemingly) useless little factoids that occasionally come in handy. Now trying to learn sed and awk. Great tools but confusing to learn...ugh.
      By the way--I also checked out some of the videos on your other channel. AMAZING how well those are, especially the ones about mining on asteroids and settling on the moon. Very impressive!

  • @NullPointer1100
    @NullPointer1100 7 років тому +17

    Now your SSD is limited by the speed of USB2.0.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +9

      Indeed it is.

    • @jasonlisonbee
      @jasonlisonbee 7 років тому

      How much can this be mitigated by a compressing file system? Which would be the best option to do so?

    • @md_vandenberg
      @md_vandenberg 7 років тому +1

      Alex, I run a USB2 external HDD, which contains my Steam library. It takes about 30 seconds longer for a game to boot up, compared to when that same drive was in my laptop. 30 whole seconds. Yeah, it's terrible. /s

    • @USMCDAD47
      @USMCDAD47 7 років тому

      I run my pihole with a USB 200Gb drive I salvaged out of a dead laptop...been running like that for months and months...I don't mind it taking a few more seconds to boot.

    • @thomascott7425
      @thomascott7425 7 років тому +2

      I like seeing that someone besides my self still remembers MAX. I feel that tv show was perhaps too far ahead of itself. I feel that the audience could not grasp the concept. IMHO, Cheers.

  • @LAHHZE
    @LAHHZE 7 років тому +92

    Your speed is still bottlenecked by USB 2.0. No point running it from SSD without SATA or PCie port.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +57

      Granted, though an SSD is less likely to corrupt than an SD card. More generally, the ability to use a USB thumb drive rather than a micro SD card could be useful on occasion. I just went to the extreme here! :)

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 7 років тому

      He could be running it with USB 3.1 gen 2 if the raspberry pi had it.

    • @amshermansen
      @amshermansen 7 років тому +6

      As EC points out the reasoning here is more to avoid SD Card wear and eventually death, in exchange for a much more robust drive.
      Sure the SSD won't run at its peak speeds, but it also won't need an external power supply, which your run of the mill 2,5" Mechanical drive will. But that's easily done if you want to put that in your case.

    • @figjoy
      @figjoy 7 років тому

      Actually, in my experience, it does need an external power supply. I use a powered hub.

    • @amshermansen
      @amshermansen 7 років тому +5

      Sounds like the charger you're using for the PI is underdimensioned to give each USB port the amps they need. SSDs can run on single USB2 no problem.

  • @FGQuinto
    @FGQuinto 3 роки тому +2

    exactly what i was looking for!! thanks so much. i worked right along with you and jobs done!

  • @y2ksw1
    @y2ksw1 7 років тому +1

    Very nice little lecture! 😊

  • @beans8489
    @beans8489 7 років тому +3

    First

    • @sidharthcs2110
      @sidharthcs2110 7 років тому +2

      Legitning
      NNooooooooooooooo

    • @beans8489
      @beans8489 7 років тому +1

      sidharth cs
      Gg :D

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +3

      Gold Metal to Legitning! :)

    • @beans8489
      @beans8489 7 років тому

      ExplainingComputers
      Time to add it to my collection, well its very small.

    • @toepunch001
      @toepunch001 7 років тому +3

      That's what she said!

  • @retrogameplus3838
    @retrogameplus3838 7 років тому +23

    Hello good sir! apt-get is now apt I told you in a previous comment! I will start grading you down!!! In all seriousness keep up the good content and thank you

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому +24

      You will have to tell and grade down the Raspberry Pi Foundation too . . .

    • @retrogameplus3838
      @retrogameplus3838 7 років тому

      I know =( It's not a big deal at all and matters very little but for some reason I feel the need to let people know about the change.

    • @h311sb311s
      @h311sb311s 7 років тому

      apt actually does a better job I think. apt-get still works but apt is colorized in some areas to help you focus on the what's currently happening, such as the overall download progress for the group of packages being updated; in other words it's more user friendly. Try 'man apt-get' and 'man apt' to see the general differences.

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 7 років тому

      Wayne Dinsmore There is also apitude which is very similar to apt-get and apt (I haven't played with apt though). The trick is that if something isn't installed by defauly, I'm releunctant to learn it. Apt-get is everywhere, right?

    • @h311sb311s
      @h311sb311s 7 років тому

      I didn't know about aptitude. The man page says it's a 'high-level interface to the package manager'.
      I dug a little deeper and it seems to be an interface that uses curses (poor man's GUI), which also explains why the program is so much larger.
      Time to try something new (maybe after I'm done playing with my new ESP32-WROVER-KIT).
      The following lists show the various apt. apt-get, and aptitude programs. Take particular note of the symbolic links and also that it implies aptitude is an alternative to apt or apt-get.
      pi@RPi3-2:~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/apt*
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13832 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 100008 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-cache
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26092 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-cdrom
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17848 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-config
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22060 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 206604 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-ftparchive
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 120428 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-get
      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jul 5 06:36 /usr/bin/aptitude -> /etc/alternatives/aptitude
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1939 Jun 9 2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-create-state-bundle
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3738328 Jun 15 2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2850 Jun 9 2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-run-state-bundle
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11740 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-key
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8742 Oct 12 2014 /usr/bin/apt-listchanges
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42548 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-mark
      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30200 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-sortpkgs
      pi@RPi3-2:~ $ ls /etc/alternatives/aptitude*
      aptitude aptitude.de.8.gz aptitude.fr.8.gz aptitude.ja.8.gz
      aptitude.8.gz aptitude.es.8.gz aptitude.gl.8.gz aptitude.pl.8.gz
      aptitude.cs.8.gz aptitude.fi.8.gz aptitude.it.8.gz
      pi@RPi3-2:~ $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/aptitude
      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jul 5 06:36 /etc/alternatives/aptitude -> /usr/bin/aptitude-curses

  • @Crealster1
    @Crealster1 7 років тому +1

    Like always great videos! Thanks for your work.

  • @olarmariusalex
    @olarmariusalex 6 років тому +1

    As a suggestion, there is an awesome option of apt-get named "-y". With this option you can say Yes right on the command line not type it later when will always ask if we want to update/upgrade.

  • @sidharthcs2110
    @sidharthcs2110 7 років тому +4

    Second

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut 6 років тому +1

    Have your pi and eat it too! Riveting video (seriously), even though I had my sound off. That has to say something about the content :) Thank you for the walk-through. Cheers!

  • @ry_man
    @ry_man 7 років тому +1

    I hope the foundation are planning a Pi 4 for the start of next year! I think the next release will make it so much faster. I wouldn't mind if there was a slight price increase if it ment getting higher performance!

  • @MarkTheMorose
    @MarkTheMorose 7 років тому +1

    A neat way of circumventing the write cycle death of flash-based media, if one were to use an 'old fashioned' rotating rust hard drive.

  • @brickedmyphone1189
    @brickedmyphone1189 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the tutorial i will try etcher too

  • @trockeneis1000
    @trockeneis1000 2 роки тому +1

    great. it tooked me 10mins to get is working. thanks.

  • @coolpsycho1
    @coolpsycho1 7 років тому +2

    Finally a raspberry pi video

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  7 років тому

      Yes, it is always good to get back to the Pi. And I always do! :)

  • @galihpa
    @galihpa 7 років тому +1

    Hi ExplainingComputers, please do more raspberry pi videos. I really like them.

  • @neelstheron3252
    @neelstheron3252 5 років тому +1

    Now that we have the Pi4, this will now become very interesting doing this!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  5 років тому +1

      Right now, the Pi 4B cannot boot from USB. But they have promised an upgrade.

  • @ianide2480
    @ianide2480 7 років тому +2

    You can just keep the SD card and edit the boot parameters. So it still loads initially from the SD card but then it points at the USB drive. No changing anything permanently that way. This is the method that I use and it works perfect and the PI does not ever touch the SD card except on boot for a second or two. I use a couple of old laptop drives to swap for different setups and a powered HUB.

  • @Vhbaske
    @Vhbaske 7 років тому +1

    You sure are a very savy teacher.

  • @889811
    @889811 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing stuff as always!

  • @rickdacosta1889
    @rickdacosta1889 3 роки тому

    Use of PINN explained would be an excellent resource for newbies like myself

  • @ThomR65
    @ThomR65 7 років тому +1

    Fun video! It might have been nice if you could have given some examples of the possibilities this opens up there at the end.

  • @Rj-tz5kb
    @Rj-tz5kb 7 років тому +1

    love the glasses, love the info, love the channel

  • @RightToSelfDefense
    @RightToSelfDefense 6 років тому +1

    Wow.
    This should really help developers who are putting Android or Java, or large apps on their Raspberry that require more memory than a Flash memory card.

  • @Liam-B
    @Liam-B 6 років тому +1

    Awesome. Now I can have more storage for my DEC VT520/RPi project. It's called the CreamPi

  • @m1aws
    @m1aws 7 років тому

    Good video! A bit back I used the Raspberry Pi on Berryboot with a 2.5" HDD and the card. It slowed it down while loading up but I liked the assumed reliability and terabyte storage.
    However, I updated/upgraded lately, a question was asked on file ownership/login. Said "no" to keep settings. After that it never worked on reboot. I dumped the drive for the back of the TV and gone back to card only.
    My non-SSD main pc has KDE Neon Linux on a nice fast pendrive with swap in ram and /home on HD. Leaves win 8.1 for dead on a cold reboot.

  • @giveaway4002
    @giveaway4002 7 років тому

    best , best , best.
    Really very Happy with this new video. I really wanted this.
    But I have a questions,
    which is faster this method or sdcard?
    I really like the way you responded to everyone at their comments, I have read and liked most of your response. Really great UA-camr .....

  • @williamhart4896
    @williamhart4896 7 років тому +2

    Thanks professor Criss