I like how Sam didn't get angry at Tory this time but rather understood her situation a lot better. And I can see that they actually do care about Tory. Though if they had known about how Tory really copes with that problem I think they could've handled it a lot better.
Yeah you can tell she just doesn’t wanna fight Tory in the final scene of part 1 she just looks sad for her. I don’t blame Sam or Tory either like Sam doesn’t want to put the friendship at risk and Tory needs something to take out her anger on but not in the healthy way.
What pissed me off about this scene was that not one of them went after her to talk to her they just said "Oh well Hawk you're coming to Barcelona with us since Tory isn't here anymore." Like bruh, she's grieving about her mother and y'all worry about a damn tournament.😢
That what i was thinking during the whole scene i mean Tory just lost her mother and they didnt give a single fuck about it they just be like "im sorry for you loss" and thats it
Fr she absolutely perfected her role, I was getting emotional along side with her, arguably the best performance out of any of the actors from the cast that I've seen so far 👏
I would say she’s the best character for me in the whole series. So raw and complicated. Her journey in the last two seasons made me really feel for her 💔💔💔
Its emotional it sucks but fighting would not have helped her, she's been doing that this whole series and its just made everything worse, nobody in the cobra kai dojo cares about her only what she can do for them, fighting just won't work in her situation, not when it's done nothing but make things worse
I hope Daniel help tory, and help her to deal with her mom's death trauma. By telling how he overcome his trauma of his dad death by cancer and of Mr. Miyagi
@@AobixDaniel cannot help Tory. Daniels is the polar opposite of Tory and cannot possibly understand the way shes processing her emotions. If anyone can help Tory, its Johnny. Johnny was the only one who let Tory decide what to do and understood what she needed was to fight it out
I absolutely agree with Daniel, and I ain't a Miyagi-Do fan. It's one thing to take that anger out on say a punching bug or a bat with a baseball, it's another thing to take out on a PERSON. I'm sure Tory wasn't trying to hurt Sam, but because she is so blinded by her emotions, she's not in control of her actions. How Tory was taking off her frustration, was the equivalency of getting into a car angry or with your emotions out of control: you're going hurt someone.
Exactly. Plus rejoining kreese will only push her back in the hole further. I think daniel wanted her to clear her head, not take her out the sekai taikai if im mistaken. Johnny is comin from a personal experience, which is understandable. But fighting with high emotions/anger will only lead to suffering.
@marlonzogriffin6983 Daniel was wrong. Emotional response, definitely not miyagi way (strike 1st) lol. Daniel probably did that bc he's still searching for answers & isnt happy about the situation. Hearing his old friend bully calling his sensei out, definitely trigger him.
@@brandonjackson9464 I do feel like people got to understand anger is sort of fighting u chat fight someone and no t have anger I just find it funny multiple times Daniel has fought with anger in this show just like he punched Johnny with anger because Johnny was telling the truth about Mr Miyagi people have to understand fighting is not always going to be zen sunshine and rainbows that’s just how it works
I'm with Daniel on stopping the fight, but there was a more tactful way to do that. Pause the match and have the girls turn and kneel so they're not facing each other so Daniel can brief Johnny out of earshot of the other students. Have Amanda lead Sam off of the sparring deck and instruct the other students that training is over for the day and send them home. Inform Tory that she'll still be able to have a clean match with Sam, but give her a private training session to channel her grief. Blatantly shutting down the fight the way Daniel did and pretty much forcing Tory to announce her mom died to all of the students put Tory's grief on display for everyone...it's humiliating. It's no wonder she lashed out the way she did. That's one thing Kreese did right...when Tory was out of sorts in Season 4, he pulled her into his office to get the full story rather than put her in a position to make her business public. I don't blame her for going back to Kreese after this incident...
Nah I agree with Johnny. Johnny and Daniel are both there and able to keep them as safe as possible so let Tory fight it out. Treating her like she doesn’t have the ability to decide what she wants irritates me. And I can see why she got irritated with them and left. Don’t act like you know what’s best for someone when they aren’t asking you what to do. Let them make the choice and only intervene before catastrophe happens.
@@richardjoyce2764 i’ve had a crush on Peyton for a year now before the cobra Kai television series. The last thing I saw her was diary of a Wimpy kid and let me just say she was kinda hot back then but now wow oh my God insanely hotter I guess in my opinion because she looks like she got way older
I’m not going to lie, I agree with Daniel. As much as I can see Tory’s sadness, that doesn’t mean you can just take your frustration out on your opponent. The kick after her point I can excuse like Johnny, but grabbing Sam by the collar and pushing her to the edge of the deck with that kind of fist is way overboard.
In my opinion Daniel had the right idea, to protect both girls, but he could’ve waited until after Tory landed the punch or just call it 2-2 (while stopping Tory). Instead he says we’ll find another way and ofc Tory will think that they will support Sam and Daniel doesn’t say his reasoning so ofc Tory will feel that Daniel is biased. Also Tory was angered, saddened, and could’ve easily been manipulated by anyone’s talks, even kreese and Daniel.
She wasnt being dirty just emotional let the point count, she will have her own internal realisation that she doesnt feel better for doing so, and then console her. Daniel how been so dettatched the whole series, tho johnny, sam or someone should have gone after her.
That's why tory went back to cobra kai cause of the death of tory's mother so tory can get back with kreese and Kim da un. Which is going to get alot more worser and the Miyagi-Fangs wasn't to happy about it. Since Tory rejoined cobra kai once again.
Take note Hollywood. This is how you do strong female characters. You show them being vulnerable. They’re not strong or even characters if they have no obstacles to overcome.
Tory wasn't in the right headspace to fight. Sam also didn't want to fight after hearing what happened. Daniel was 100% in the right to stop this fight before tory would do something she'd regret. Johnny was also wrong and wanted tory to deal with grief in a bad way. Johnny missed the birth of his own son after his mom died. And tory going back to an evil dojo proves she wasn't right in the head to be fighting.
I 100% understand and sympathize with Tory but Daniel was right. Tory was not in the right mindset and really could have hurt Sam. It’s not so much as Daniel didn’t want to see Sam get hurt as a parent but rather as a sensei you should know that grabbing someone by their clothes so they can’t evade or block in a sparing match and straight up trying to punch their face isn’t karate anymore. It’s a straight brawl at that point and Johnny should have seen that. The fact that Johnny, right after the fight stopped acted like that was normal and got mad at Daniel says a lot. He’s such a hypocrite, instigating sh*t about them favoring Sam over Tory causing her to go to Cobra Kai but throughout the match he was favoring Tory the entire time.
0:33 Also here, Tory went on the attack before Johnny gave the official go to start That in it of itself was point deduction worthy Combined with the unnecessary offense after scoring a point on Sam, Tory definitely should’ve had a point deduction no question Johnny was indeed an incompetent ref
@@Sledge666Johnny shouldn’t have let her fight Sam though, if he wanted her to take out her anger he should’ve let her take it out where no one can get hurt. I feel sorry for Tory but hurting someone else is no way let out anger. You’re just hurting yourself and the other person.
While you shouldn’t take your anger on your opponent while you’re grieving. Tory needs to let all her sadness and anger out, even a punching back would help. it’s understandable, it’s how some people grieve, it’s how I sometimes grieve over certain deaths. Jonny gets it. But, you don’t need to fight your opponent to do it.
Peyton List is a brilliant actress. The way she conveyed her character Tory’s emotional pain from the loss of her mom was so raw and genuine, it made me feel for her so much.
She will be. Kreese adopts her and her brother to keep them together, and passes along Cobra Kai to his adopted daughter. Its a win/win for both. My kid saw it coming years ago, and I went from very skeptical to absolutely buying in. Kreese's "sick" mom, protecting her from the landlord, her evil aunt's cameo, him looking for an heir, risking CK just so she could fight fair and feel like a winner.... I don't see how it doesn't happen. It's a heck of a set-up for a future spinoff. Tory and Sam become the next Johnny and Daniel. I just hope it won't take 30 freaking years lol.
Man, I just wanna give Tory a hug. One of the people who she has defended and worked her ass off so many jobs to take care of had to reply with an untimely death. This just isn’t fair for her. Everything Tory had to sacrifice to help her mother. Her karate, friends and her freedom. She’s only just an innocent teenager who has so many unforeseen obstacles that sometimes can’t be overcome. She now needs help. More than ever. I really hope Miyagi-Fang can help her in anyway possible and can make her see that she is never alone. That Tory will always have a home with her friends. Ever since the season started, everyone in Miyagi-Fang accepted her for who she truly is. A pure, harmless human being who has an unfair life growing up raising an ill mother and a little brother all on her own. Even Sam finally saw that. Just know Tory, everyone in Miyagi-Fang forgives you. You will always have a place with them, and your mother would be very proud that you will continue to fight for the people you truly love. Even Mr Miyagi would be proud of you. Remember that.
The fact is that Robby made the same expression when Tory was attacking Sam in S6 and also in S2 school brawl fight. The way he still cares for Sam is remarkable
@@hannaheddy5829TORY LEFT FOR A FUCKING REASON it clear she needed space what do expect or Robby to have powers and bring her mom back to life yall blaming Robby acting like he the one that cause her death 💀 💀💀💀💀
Some of yall acting like Tory taking her anger out on Sam woulda been completely a-okay, it actually baffles me A PUNCHING BAG could’ve sufficed. She was already gonna seriously injure Sam before Daniel stepped in.
@@josephesquivel4066She was going to get punched really hards in face, definitely a broken nose or cheek bone. That's not karate anymore, it's a brawl.
It's called a Legal Guardian, which Amanda did act as for a time when Tory went back to school earlier in the series. So it only makes sense Amanda was contacted. She probably was listed as such on a Contacts List. Tory wasn't going to go to her greedy Aunt who was practically hoping Tory's mom would die. Can't list Kreese because he at this point in the series is considered to be deceased on the books. Amanda is it and best choice of contact.
I don’t think they nerfed Miguel. Miguel has proven that in a no holds barred fight he can beat Robby. Robby just won the point system tournament style. There’s a difference
They didn’t nerf Miguel. The show has pretty much displayed time and time again that they are the two best child fighters in the show and they are about equal. Robby simply wanted the W more than Miguel this time, Miguel is still a formidable fighter and he will definitely perform great in the Sekai Takai, even against CK best fighter. Also what I love about these matches is the kids don’t hold their losses against the other, they respect and show excitement for the other persons W, which is the whole point
my Mom died about 3 weeks before this episode. I can't and won't talk about how rough it was for me. But this episode....I believe art finds you. When you need it. When Tory says "because my Mother died" I understood that. It's the worse news to share. Each time I say it, it hurts. But this episode was there when I needed it. Thank you.
Johnny should have gotten Tory a punching bag. It would have therapeutic for Tory to get her anger out, but Sam is not a punching bag. Johnny had no right to offer her up as one. But we're talking about Johnny, who himself offered up his own son as a punching bag (in S5E5) so that Miguel would make peace with him and they'd be friends for Johnny's sake. Like Sam, Robby didn't want to fight, but Robby doesn't have a dad like Daniel. Robby is cursed with Johnny. Johnny's such a hypocrite. He egged Tory on about the LaRussos taking sides, but that's all he's ever done when it comes to Miguel and Robby. Even in S5E5, he should have prioritized Robby's needs over Miguel's anger, but Johnny didn't. Robby has "second place" trauma for many reasons, Johnny being highest on the list of reasons.
This scene was so intense, how Daniel knew about what happened to Tory’s mom and refused the fight to continue. Possibly that Tory would put her anger to Sam and take things too far
I think it was good to stop the fight even though it could have gone differently. If Tory wasn't going through this situation they would have continued the fight without interference, leaving the fight as it was, plus Tory was out of control and Sam still put up a good fight and fought fair, it is valid that Sam wanted to beat Tory but she would have accepted If she had lost fairly against Tory, not everything is overprotection towards Sam, plus either of the two could get hurt :3
When Larusso says, "Sensei Lawrence some help here please" hoping for Johnny to take his side and Johnny basically says "F you" it makes me laugh not gonna lie.
I think Sam looked scared the look in Tory eyes looked like pure blood I got to win this for my mother that is powerful the fact they stop this wasn't to help Tory it was to keep Sam from getting injured or killed lets be honest her Sam looked scared to death again and I don't blame her Tory when she sees red is bigger and stronger not to mention even faster it seems Sam is just over matched even Daniel blocked Tory punch that clearly was going to cause some damage to Sam she was back peddling with her hands down no chance she blocks that punch!
Let her fight it out it worked with Miguel and Robby even tho they weren’t in the same situation Tory was in and Johnny and Tory are natural aggressive people so he can relate to her someway unlike Daniel
For those agreeing with Johnny about letting her continue to fight Sam. She was being a little bit reckless. The kids, Amanda and Daniel were even seeing it by watching how Tory was fighting. She wasn't in the right head space to fight in that moment. She could have hurt Sam or even herself. She was legit holding everything in with grief and anger and wouldn't talk to anyone, including Robby, when he had been trying to reach her since the day before. Daniel and Amanda were more worried about Tory with her mental health and well-being as they should. Yes, Johnny knows what it's like to lose his mom, but don't forget Daniel also knows about loss as well he lost his dad at a young age and then lost Mr. Miyagi later in life, who was another father figure to him. He's just as much of a hot head as Johnny and Tory is. I mean, fighting a punching bag/dummy is one thing to let it all out, but to do a 1 on 1 fight match with another student, no, it wasn't the right time to do that. All it takes is 1 reckless move and it can can injure someone badly. Any of your top good athlete coaches in any kind of sport won't let their students practice/compete while they are in a fresh grieving state with anger especially in sports like martial arts/boxing/wrestling/gymnastics/certain dance styles/skating/nascar driving the sports that really focuses on having a clear balance focus. Look what happened when Robby was filled with rage when he fought Miguel in season two at the school. All it took was just the 1 kick that sent Miguel into the hospital with a coma and had to relearn on how to walk. At first Robby was in control during that fight until that rage fully took over and didn't realize what he had just done until right after he did it. He wanted to finish the fight but he didn't think it would end in that way.
All this Daniel hate is seriously dumb. If Sam would have got badly injured and sent to the hospital then the same dumb people would call out Daniel or Johnny for being irresponsible adults for not stopping the fight. Sam already got sent to hospital before, and I don't think that any rational parent would ever want to see their daughter get injured again.
No. it was a lot more edits/cuts because they heavily relied on stunt doubles. In the miguel/robby fight, it doesn't look as cool because you can see their face and full body in the shot and neither of them are professional stuntment/fighters.
bro idk if this scene was meant to be written this way but they literally did nothing to help her, it actually angers me so much, I’m honestly glad she went to cobra kai atp.
The thing that pisses me off about this whole scene is the fact that barely anyone reacted to this. And when she walked off, how no one chased after her. If anything, this should’ve been Tory’s moment where she finally realizes that she’s in the right dojo after they all surround her with love and say things like, “I can’t imagine what you’re going through right now, but Tory, just please understand that you don’t have to go through it alone. We’ve been through a lot but right now, us, this dojo, everybody here, we’re a family, and you, you’re a part of that family now.”
I feel like after Daniel stopped the punch he should have gave Tory a point. And then tell her to take it down a notch or try to see why she's going so hard. And then let them finish.
Watching this back b4 part 2 comes out, i agree with daniel. He lost his father when he was young too. Johnny also had right idea but it was like he saw it as daniel challenging him more than anything else. Part 3 is gonna probs show another interraction between daniel and tory talking abt what happened and her saying she dont blame daniel for stopping it and stuff
0:27 poor tory is so distraught she goes to line up on the wrong side of the mat😭 Peyton List, take a fucking bow. This young lady is magnificent. I hope we see her in other stuff soon.
I know this feeling all too well. You feel scared, enraged, you feel like the world is taking everything you love. You want to fight it out and just let all the rage out on someone and don’t care who it is. I can tell you this feeling won’t help you. It’s going to drive away all the people that care about you. I let my rage get the better of me but it’s like a double edged sword. It may hurt the enemy but it can hurt you instead.
Tory clearly still has some un resolved issuses with Sam and she clearly doesn't want to be second best which would explain why she rejoined Cobra Kai.
She was going to kill Sam she was clearly better then Sam once again its amazing to me the reason the parents wanted to stop that fight is Sam was going to get hurt period I fine it ironic actually that Tory pretty much pushes Sam around she is at min 2 x stronger her kicks knock Sam backwards its clearly a size difference and its huge in this fight because not only is Tory bigger she even seems faster then Sam which once again speed kills vs Power yet she is better in both areas ! The funny part is Sam wins every time because of her daddy last name but when you watch her fight Tory clearly looks on another level! I have a feeling Tory is going to beat Sam and Robbie is going to beat his foe tying it 1-1 then they will have to have another fight to determine true winner with both winners of there matches eliminated from last battle to break tie in steps Miguel vs the best fighter Cobra Kia has because he lost to Robbie he can fight the last one and they won't put Sam vs him its going to be Miguel for the win. I just betting it Tory and Robbie will be on the platform both winners but Miguel will be the tie breaker. Just a hunch
Why did they make Tory join Cobra Kai again after everything? After all they did to make her suffer to the fullest and she knows that, her mother dying litetally shouldn’t affect that decision in any way? They ruined her character by making her leave Miyagi Do
Yeah I know it’s so stupid. I’m just hoping that’s it’s a dream when Tory joins back Cobra Kai😅. And it seems like sekai Taikai is happening early especially episode 6 part 2🤷🏼♀️ like I was predicting it to happen at the last five episodes or something.
Your making is seem like she is aligned with the ideology of cobra kai . She is only on their team so she can compete apart of the tournament as captain. She doesn't care for them or Kreese
@@SSSyhhexactly bro it’s like these people js didn’t watch the show. she needs that captain spot, and if she wasn’t gonna get it at miyagi-do, there’s only 1 other place to go
My problem with this season is that too many characters were regressed in order to create conflict. Daniel is back to spreading the Miyagi Do gospel, Johnny is conforming to Miyagi Do, and we have Johnny vs Daniel AGAIN, Hawk is back to getting his ass kicked, Dimitri is back to being a toxic friend, Kenny is back to being class clown, Anthony is back to being LaPusso and laughing at Kenny, Devon only gets into the tournament by cheating, and finally Tory is back to listening to Kreese despite the fact that every time she does, she digs herself a bigger hole.
Im ngl Johnny pissed me off this season. "If she wants to fight let her fight". Bro shes not in the right head space. Daniel was 100% in the right here
And so what doing nothing to grief is useless doing something passionate your about does it work with Miguel and Robby even if they weren’t in the same situation with Tory and Johnny and Tory are both natural aggressive people and fighting is what there passionate about so they should’ve let the fight continue Daniel is one of the worst characters in this show he’s complete unlikeable
Ngl your very wrong daniel was the most annoying this season he wouldn’t let Johnny do his own teaching and when Johnny said I’m so tired of hearing it the miyagi do way trust me I got tired of it too and Daniel completely forgot again when mr miyagi said one day u gonna train your own way
Here's the thing about Tory. All her life, she's been on her own. Looking after herself. Looking out for herself. But now, she has people in her life. People who care about her. Friends, family and more. But she doesn't get that. Tory doesn't understand that she doesn’t have to fight all the time. She has people in her corner, and she's allowed to ask for help. Allowed to let others in. Tory, dear, your mother would not want you to fight the people who want to help you. She would've wanted you to accept them. I love Tory as a character, but at the end of the day, that's her fatal flaw. The inability to see and embrace the love that surrounds her. "There's no one," she said. Are you sure about that?
I thought it was terrible for the series to have Tory changing sides....damn, she always comes out as the wrong one, look at the situation she's going through and where's her support?
Made 0 sense that all of them with this great knowledge and wisdom yet none of them tried to go after her and help. Plus I'd like to add this is the MOST likeable Sam has been this entire show. I literally had nothing bad to say about her this season.
1. It was a sporting fight in a safe environmentt. 2. She didn't fight out of hatred, she fought to honor the life project she had with her mother. 3. There isn´t exist a right mental space. There are always problems of any kind that influence our thoughts and actions. We have to deal with it in our own way. 4. Karate is a martial art. It is not only a way to attack or defend yourself, it is also a way of expressing and releasing emotions. I agree with Jhonny. No one has the right to tell you how to grieve.
Johnny is the one to blame here in this scene. He was being so immature about Daniel wanting to stop the fight, so proud of not wanting to agree with Daniel that he resort to making comments right in front of Tory making her doubt that them 🙄
It's not Johnny fault, Tory would have won, but does Sam have to win like always? They didn't want their princess to get hurt, It's true that Tory doesn't have a mother anymore and that's why she was angry and sad and wanted to win. They never let Tory get a decent win for once.💀
@@abjfhfdhj I agree that Johnny was right in wanting to let Tory finish the fight, but there's no guarantee Tory would've won even if it hadn't been stopped, if Tory landed a point there it would've been 2-2, it could've still gone either way after that.
@@lukemiao4454 But Larusso shouldn’t have stopped the fight isn’t Sam more experienced and much better than Tory? so why didn’t she defend herself, is it the first time that she saw a fist or why she got so scared💀And yes it would have been 2-2 but I think Tory would have still won, also until Season 6 sam was better than tory but now i think tory is definitely gonna be a better fighter,in this fight scene she really had more chance to win and they better give tory a decent win.
I remember when first watching Cobra Kai .. I first thought of Tory as some nice eye candy but as seasons went on I felt bad for her and wanted her to succeed.. Poor thing
While people are thinking John Kreese had involvement with Torys moms death I am going to say right now. This stinks of Terry Silver. Here me out Terry Silver bribed the referee in that contest that Tory didnt win and she went public about it. She refused to be a champion off that tainted victory. And by doing so she caused unwanted attention when Tory and others broke into Silvers home and found the evidence of what happened and uploaded it. And we must remember Silver does crap like this when he wants to get what he wants and wants revenge. Do you all forget how he made Daniels life a living hell in Karate Kid 3? Or how he framed and sent John Kreese to jail? Silver has had involvement with destroying people for money and power. Trust me. Silver did this.
@@joewhitehead3 yeah but Terry could have planned this before he was arrested. And just cause he’s in jail dosnt mean he can’t arrange a scheme. Terry is evil enough to do this.
1:42 - This is the "Thousand-Yard Stare" Tory is displaying. An emotionless and blank dissociated expression caused by significant emotional trauma and psychological distress. Tory is existing in the moment but at the same time a million miles away. As someone who has been on this level of emotional anguish, I can confirm from experience that it's a very scary thing to be in the moment without being in the moment while not being able to feel the scary thing you are feeling. If that last sentence before this one confuses you, be thankful that you never experienced such a traumatic experience that would make it make sense.
And then she end up joining back kreese and kim only to have them mess.with her head so she'll get angry with power but only to mess with her mentally and emotionally
Felt so sorry for her, she’s gone through a lot and suffered through the years. She is a sweet adorable girl when she is mad and angry though. Man i’m gonna miss this series after this season. The best fighting series ever created . Daniel stopped it at the right time as they were wondering all the time what has flown in to Tory she was very reckless and fighting to kill, she could’ve hurt Sam badly if Daniel didn’t intervene at last. I understand her sorrow and grief but it was not the right day to fight.
People are crazy to think that Tory would beat Sam fair and square Tory was fighting in anger and going all out but sam still managed to keep up with her If they face in the final Sam wins all day long *Its good they stopped the fight
@@Yoxhio_ She was confused and wandering why Tory is being so aggressive. Sam is the one who was landing points 1st and Tory responding . So in a way its actually Sam who was leading and Tory keeping up
I love how Johnny took her side but Daniel was right to stop the fight.Tori was too hurt and angry and basically used Sam as a punching bag to ease her pain and grief.Sam didn't deserve it cause it wasn't her fault.Yet I think they should have just rescheduled the fight and someone should have went after her
Daniel was right to stop the fight when he did. But after that, he should’ve let Tory decide if she wanted to continue the fight. Daniel and Amanda obviously had the best intentions. But the way they went about it validated what Kreese told Tory about them always putting Sam first. It also sent Tory the message that “the way you want to process your emotions is wrong.” That just made her feel like the broken bad person everyone assumed she was; like Sam assumed when they first met. But if they gave Tory the choice to continue the fight or not, it would’ve sent the message that “you’re a member of this dojo. We want to be there for you. Tell us how we can best support you.” That would’ve made Tory feel seen, heard, and accepted. Honestly I think if they gave her the choice, she would’ve chosen to stop the go herself. Or at least cooled off enough to continue without crossing a line
After seeing Tory mom flashback i remember how my childhood was very sad and depressing through growing up without a father, before my sister was born, and my mother had to work full time in order to make money to feed me and my sibling and have a place to live, my mother was a fighter and she's been through a lot and after learning and seeing this scene, I will help my mother for now on and learn to be a fighter and work hard to help her, much she did for me when i was little. i love you mother ❤
@@Joe-x3p9i Daniel would have left it alone but he heard what Johnny did to Kyler and his friends. Even though Daniel didn’t know Kyler started the fight Johnny was being aggressive and antagonistic to Daniel every chance he got when Daniel just wanted to talk. Imagine if Johnny was willing to talk like a man. None of this would have happened.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!! He said that when he was a kid and his mom died all he wanted to do was get on the mat. So he thinks him and Tory grieve a similar way
@@DuelEditsYT And well how is Johnny's life now? I hope tory goes to therapist or talk to people like Daniel and Amanda so that she can have a better future and don't eat expired sandwiches on dinner like Johnny
@@Aobix yea I get what u mean. But the thing is after johnny was done with grieving he had no adults to help him. Tory is so lucky that she has all those people around her to help her. I hope she realizes that that is what they are trying to do
If Daniel whispered it quick in Johnny’s ear, he probably would’ve agreed to postpone the match and end today’s class to send everyone home then Johnny could’ve personally sparred with Tory since he knows what she needs and what she’s going through and not like she’d do damage to him since he easily avoided all of Robby’s hits in season 3.
normally I do not agree with Daniel in the show but in this case he 100% in the right here Tory was acting on her grief in this fight (which I totally understand considering people will do a lot of things with their grief healthy or not) and she seriously could have hurt Sam in this match and Johnny was not doing anything to stop it and he was the ref remember what happened when Robby acted on his anger and literally hurt Miguel to the point where Miguel was in a wheelchair with a serious back injury the same thing (not to that extent though) could have happened with Tory and Sam here if Daniel didn't step in
@@danaestorms6957 and remember when Miguel and Robby ended there issues in season 5 by fighting it out remember when Daniel even recommended that Robby and Miguel should fight it out Johnny so it’s a contradiction that Daniel doesn’t let Tory fight out her anger even if Miguel and Robby weren’t going threw what Tory was
@@Deity_devil It wasn't fresh though between Miguel and Robby that had to deal with being rival/enemies same way how Johnny and Daniel were towards each other. Also that fight was a last resort kind of thing after Johnny had tried other things first. The apartment fight happened months after them butting heads with each other. This here with Tory was completely different this wasn't about rivalry that they had to get over this was straight up fresh grief of losing someone that literally JUST happened to her where she hasn't had time to fully process or to even talk about it with someone. Any right professional coach in any type of sport especially martial arts/boxing/wrestling/gymnastics/dance/skating/ski/snowboard that involves needing a mental balance focus will always look out for their students well being first. They would not have their student practice/compete while they are in a fresh grieving state that could put them in harmsway. They could legit hurt someone or hurt themselves.
They screwed Tory over by having her mother die just so she can’t beat Sam and go back to Cobra Kai after all the development? What was the point? Sam is the most protected on the show. Why would she join Kim when they despise each other and she tortured Tory? Their flogging Kreese at this stage. Massive steps back for Tory, they writers destroyed her. There’s always an excuse to not have Sam lose.
You're WAY off. The whole point of this was to set up Sam vs Tory at the tournament because they didn't want to have to build up another female Cobra Kai fighter. Sam and Tory have been very evenly matched from day one and the tournament should be their deciding fight, and most likely Tory will win because there's no way Kwon is winning. That will make them tied. My prediction is that the tie-breaker will be the senseis fighting. Kreese vs Johnny. But there's no chance Miyagi-Do wins both fights.
I like how Sam didn't get angry at Tory this time but rather understood her situation a lot better. And I can see that they actually do care about Tory. Though if they had known about how Tory really copes with that problem I think they could've handled it a lot better.
Yeah you can tell she just doesn’t wanna fight Tory in the final scene of part 1 she just looks sad for her. I don’t blame Sam or Tory either like Sam doesn’t want to put the friendship at risk and Tory needs something to take out her anger on but not in the healthy way.
Exactly
Well Sam did get kinda angry when she was defending herself against Tory so she knew something was up
@@maxkelley2003not really anger, she was shocked and confused
@@josh112984 oh okay
Johnny was the only one in the dojo who actually understood Tory
And yet we never got any scenes of them bonding
i wished he had gone after her to console her no one did
Yes but that does not mean that it is OK to let Tory keep fighting. Daniel has been a d*ck the whole season but in this one he was right
Both Johnny and Daniel meant well for Tory and brought up valid points
Right
Tory really needs proper love and protection badly.
Johnny Lawrence doesn't care about tory's lost with her mother
@@sethtejacksonHe ought to since he has a lost mother.
His answer was to just keep fighting for it
@@afrosamurai8687It worked for him tho.
@@darksunrise-no.d I never saw it that way.
What pissed me off about this scene was that not one of them went after her to talk to her they just said "Oh well Hawk you're coming to Barcelona with us since Tory isn't here anymore." Like bruh, she's grieving about her mother and y'all worry about a damn tournament.😢
Exactly y she joined cobra kai kreese most likely manipulated her into joining
That what i was thinking during the whole scene i mean Tory just lost her mother and they didnt give a single fuck about it they just be like "im sorry for you loss" and thats it
She needed space to vent or else she was going to explode. I understand letting it out on something but someone is a different story
That’s the sad reality. People always declare one side as bad, but fail to recognize the countless bad deeds of the Larusso and Miyagi Do ways
Tengo la esperanza que aborden eso en la segunda parte, ese momento entre que ella sale del dojo y ellos van a Barcelona.
Peyton list needs to be nominated for her performance in this season
Fr she absolutely perfected her role, I was getting emotional along side with her, arguably the best performance out of any of the actors from the cast that I've seen so far 👏
I would say she’s the best character for me in the whole series. So raw and complicated. Her journey in the last two seasons made me really feel for her 💔💔💔
My thoughts exactly!
Nobody in this cringey show deserves an award
@@silloweetreally these people never actually saw a real good show
"Anyone who lose parent, have much grief. Grief trapped in heart become big anger." - Mr. Miyagi
When Tory shouted out. I felt that. This episode was emotionally tough.
Its emotional it sucks but fighting would not have helped her, she's been doing that this whole series and its just made everything worse, nobody in the cobra kai dojo cares about her only what she can do for them, fighting just won't work in her situation, not when it's done nothing but make things worse
Same honestly...this hit too close to home to where this scene messed me up emotionally for a couple days..
Soon as round was over she was rocking for a fight
@@troystanley9954 fighting is her trying to tuck away the grieving she needs to do
@@troystanley9954yeah it wouldn’t have helped I don’t get why they think fighting is good she has so much anger and would’ve tooken it out on Sam
What’s more interesting is that this is the first time that both Daniel and Tory interact/talk to each other in the series.
It wasn't as much, but I am sure there could be in the next part.
I hope Daniel help tory, and help her to deal with her mom's death trauma. By telling how he overcome his trauma of his dad death by cancer and of Mr. Miyagi
Hope in part 2
@@AobixDaniel cannot help Tory. Daniels is the polar opposite of Tory and cannot possibly understand the way shes processing her emotions. If anyone can help Tory, its Johnny. Johnny was the only one who let Tory decide what to do and understood what she needed was to fight it out
@@reina2081 well well I hope Tory doesn't end up like alcoholic Johnny. Tory needs some stable people in his life.
I absolutely agree with Daniel, and I ain't a Miyagi-Do fan. It's one thing to take that anger out on say a punching bug or a bat with a baseball, it's another thing to take out on a PERSON. I'm sure Tory wasn't trying to hurt Sam, but because she is so blinded by her emotions, she's not in control of her actions. How Tory was taking off her frustration, was the equivalency of getting into a car angry or with your emotions out of control: you're going hurt someone.
Thank you
Exactly. Plus rejoining kreese will only push her back in the hole further. I think daniel wanted her to clear her head, not take her out the sekai taikai if im mistaken. Johnny is comin from a personal experience, which is understandable. But fighting with high emotions/anger will only lead to suffering.
I find it funny u saying this after he literally punched Johnny in the face because he was telling him the truth and was speaking facts
@marlonzogriffin6983 Daniel was wrong. Emotional response, definitely not miyagi way (strike 1st) lol. Daniel probably did that bc he's still searching for answers & isnt happy about the situation. Hearing his old friend bully calling his sensei out, definitely trigger him.
@@brandonjackson9464 I do feel like people got to understand anger is sort of fighting u chat fight someone and no t have anger I just find it funny multiple times Daniel has fought with anger in this show just like he punched Johnny with anger because Johnny was telling the truth about Mr Miyagi people have to understand fighting is not always going to be zen sunshine and rainbows that’s just how it works
I'm with Daniel on stopping the fight, but there was a more tactful way to do that. Pause the match and have the girls turn and kneel so they're not facing each other so Daniel can brief Johnny out of earshot of the other students. Have Amanda lead Sam off of the sparring deck and instruct the other students that training is over for the day and send them home. Inform Tory that she'll still be able to have a clean match with Sam, but give her a private training session to channel her grief.
Blatantly shutting down the fight the way Daniel did and pretty much forcing Tory to announce her mom died to all of the students put Tory's grief on display for everyone...it's humiliating. It's no wonder she lashed out the way she did. That's one thing Kreese did right...when Tory was out of sorts in Season 4, he pulled her into his office to get the full story rather than put her in a position to make her business public. I don't blame her for going back to Kreese after this incident...
He was trying to handle it privately instead of Johnny going along with what daniel was saying he just was pushing the issue
@@kevinbutler2632Very true
It was johnnys fault that she had to announce that Daniel literally said not to do this in front of everyone
Nah I agree with Johnny. Johnny and Daniel are both there and able to keep them as safe as possible so let Tory fight it out. Treating her like she doesn’t have the ability to decide what she wants irritates me. And I can see why she got irritated with them and left. Don’t act like you know what’s best for someone when they aren’t asking you what to do. Let them make the choice and only intervene before catastrophe happens.
It would not have worked. tory would have still lashed out.
2:50 how she just yelled it like that the emotions in the scene are so powerful like my love for Tory my love for my queen cobra 🐍👊👑🙏
Peyton has been really selling the emotions lately , school spirits really showed that too! The acting here is a step above ❤
@@richardjoyce2764 i’ve had a crush on Peyton for a year now before the cobra Kai television series. The last thing I saw her was diary of a Wimpy kid and let me just say she was kinda hot back then but now wow oh my God insanely hotter I guess in my opinion because she looks like she got way older
@@justinmartin1666yeah man. She caused me to go through a whole jar of petroleum jelly in a week
@@Wyzevibez what does that mean?
@@WyzevibezEw 😂
I’m not going to lie, I agree with Daniel. As much as I can see Tory’s sadness, that doesn’t mean you can just take your frustration out on your opponent. The kick after her point I can excuse like Johnny, but grabbing Sam by the collar and pushing her to the edge of the deck with that kind of fist is way overboard.
If they not interfere the fight will end fair and square
100%
In my opinion Daniel had the right idea, to protect both girls, but he could’ve waited until after Tory landed the punch or just call it 2-2 (while stopping Tory). Instead he says we’ll find another way and ofc Tory will think that they will support Sam and Daniel doesn’t say his reasoning so ofc Tory will feel that Daniel is biased. Also Tory was angered, saddened, and could’ve easily been manipulated by anyone’s talks, even kreese and Daniel.
She wasnt being dirty just emotional let the point count, she will have her own internal realisation that she doesnt feel better for doing so, and then console her. Daniel how been so dettatched the whole series, tho johnny, sam or someone should have gone after her.
@@declanosullivan8770 Amanda or Robby as well.
Man they keep putting Tory through the wringer.
That's why tory went back to cobra kai cause of the death of tory's mother so tory can get back with kreese and Kim da un. Which is going to get alot more worser and the Miyagi-Fangs wasn't to happy about it. Since Tory rejoined cobra kai once again.
@@sethtejacksonthey didn’t end up calling it miyagi-fang
@@sethtejacksonthey are running so many great character developments.
@@scruffd0g193yeah
Right
Take note Hollywood. This is how you do strong female characters. You show them being vulnerable.
They’re not strong or even characters if they have no obstacles to overcome.
Exactly you make it actually believable
PREACH 🙌
Not like Rey Palpatine/Skywalker
Seems like the some of the writers over at Star Wars didn’t understand that
As a martial arts school owner, I would've called this off as well lol. Anger isn't the answer for anything.
Tory wasn't in the right headspace to fight. Sam also didn't want to fight after hearing what happened. Daniel was 100% in the right to stop this fight before tory would do something she'd regret. Johnny was also wrong and wanted tory to deal with grief in a bad way. Johnny missed the birth of his own son after his mom died. And tory going back to an evil dojo proves she wasn't right in the head to be fighting.
2:49 2:50 how she just yelled it like that the emotions in the scene are so powerful like my love for Tory my love for my queen cobra 🐍👊👑🙏
Chill bro 😭
I 100% understand and sympathize with Tory but Daniel was right. Tory was not in the right mindset and really could have hurt Sam. It’s not so much as Daniel didn’t want to see Sam get hurt as a parent but rather as a sensei you should know that grabbing someone by their clothes so they can’t evade or block in a sparing match and straight up trying to punch their face isn’t karate anymore. It’s a straight brawl at that point and Johnny should have seen that. The fact that Johnny, right after the fight stopped acted like that was normal and got mad at Daniel says a lot. He’s such a hypocrite, instigating sh*t about them favoring Sam over Tory causing her to go to Cobra Kai but throughout the match he was favoring Tory the entire time.
Johnny was only favoring Tory after knowing her mom died bcuz Johnny went through the same shit
0:33 Also here, Tory went on the attack before Johnny gave the official go to start
That in it of itself was point deduction worthy
Combined with the unnecessary offense after scoring a point on Sam, Tory definitely should’ve had a point deduction no question
Johnny was indeed an incompetent ref
@@Sledge666Johnny shouldn’t have let her fight Sam though, if he wanted her to take out her anger he should’ve let her take it out where no one can get hurt. I feel sorry for Tory but hurting someone else is no way let out anger. You’re just hurting yourself and the other person.
@@pepito2847funny cause he was mad at the ref in the all valley for being unfair to Sam and yet he did the same here
1:51 sam's look after seeing tory's face says a lot.
That's because Sam was eye witnessing face to face the 'Thousand-Yard Stare'.
While you shouldn’t take your anger on your opponent while you’re grieving. Tory needs to let all her sadness and anger out, even a punching back would help. it’s understandable, it’s how some people grieve, it’s how I sometimes grieve over certain deaths. Jonny gets it. But, you don’t need to fight your opponent to do it.
You don’t fight karate with anger and sorrow, you could literally see her technique fall apart…
Peyton List is a brilliant actress. The way she conveyed her character Tory’s emotional pain from the loss of her mom was so raw and genuine, it made me feel for her so much.
Tory needs the win this season, she deserves it more than all the teen characters. If she doesn’t win then the writers are biased its that simple.
she is definately fighting sam again in sekai taikei and this time beating her in agressive way
She won in season 4
@@mcu2478 dont count that as a win since she lost in that and only won because silver paid ref
@@mcu2478 tainted victory
sam is the main woman character I think so she'll win I think.
Just want Tory to be happy man
She will be. Kreese adopts her and her brother to keep them together, and passes along Cobra Kai to his adopted daughter. Its a win/win for both. My kid saw it coming years ago, and I went from very skeptical to absolutely buying in. Kreese's "sick" mom, protecting her from the landlord, her evil aunt's cameo, him looking for an heir, risking CK just so she could fight fair and feel like a winner.... I don't see how it doesn't happen. It's a heck of a set-up for a future spinoff. Tory and Sam become the next Johnny and Daniel. I just hope it won't take 30 freaking years lol.
@@clevelandcbiShe’s an adult now, I don’t think anybody’s adopting her
@@aashisha2316 she’s not an adult. She’s 17 or 18
@@maxkelley2003 18’s an adult genius. she’s a senior so she’s 18 or very close to 18
no it isn’t. It’s only considered an adult under certain circumstances
I really hate how badly Kreese brainwashed her, she needs love so badly ❤️
Did the same thing to Johnny when he was her age
0:49 Queen Cobra comes out to play
Real
My mother has been sick all my life and still is I understand Tory’s pain
I’m really sorry to hear that. Hope you and your mother are both staying strong. Hope she gets better soon. Keep fighting.
Wish you all the best for your mother to recover!
I understand too and Tory’s pain
Same. I don’t feel pain though. Can’t relate to not having a mother or a father. I’m glad my mom is still here despite it. Can’t complain.
Man, I just wanna give Tory a hug. One of the people who she has defended and worked her ass off so many jobs to take care of had to reply with an untimely death. This just isn’t fair for her. Everything Tory had to sacrifice to help her mother. Her karate, friends and her freedom. She’s only just an innocent teenager who has so many unforeseen obstacles that sometimes can’t be overcome. She now needs help. More than ever.
I really hope Miyagi-Fang can help her in anyway possible and can make her see that she is never alone. That Tory will always have a home with her friends. Ever since the season started, everyone in Miyagi-Fang accepted her for who she truly is. A pure, harmless human being who has an unfair life growing up raising an ill mother and a little brother all on her own. Even Sam finally saw that.
Just know Tory, everyone in Miyagi-Fang forgives you. You will always have a place with them, and your mother would be very proud that you will continue to fight for the people you truly love.
Even Mr Miyagi would be proud of you. Remember that.
The fact is that Robby made the same expression when Tory was attacking Sam in S6 and also in S2 school brawl fight. The way he still cares for Sam is remarkable
Yea but not like that bro. He like Tory more
Not really
@@kelphiuspolluxeldanimus6426 can you tell me how would he feel if Sam gets wounded by Tory very badly if Daniel didn’t stop the fight?
@manuellim6284 what?🤣
@@kelphiuspolluxeldanimus6426 you have no idea then
The saddest part is that Robby didn’t even go after her….
Hope he won’t judge her for her choice and will end up together, on the podium as well.
He should have done way better as her boyfriend.
@@hannaheddy5829TORY LEFT FOR A FUCKING REASON it clear she needed space what do expect or Robby to have powers and bring her mom back to life yall blaming Robby acting like he the one that cause her death 💀 💀💀💀💀
That's so emotional Tory leaves Miyagi Do
It was so stupidly random that it was funny, not sad.
@@B0ss_Editz 50/50
It might be temporary
please tell me she's not gonna go back to her old ways
@@B0ss_Editz no it wasn't it was not random
2:06 was my favorite part, the music, part and stuff in the way how Tori hit that little flip
I wish Mike Barnes was there to help because he shares the same hunger to fight like Tori.
nah they had to stop this fight. look at her. 0:27 she's so out of her mind she tried to line up on the wrong side of the mat
@@penoyer79not her fault tho no matter what she does
His arc was disappointing yet again like only came to help out who are the top 6 to participate in the tournament then after that it was adiós for him
Tory is the most tragic character in the Miyagiverse, period.
Queen Cobra would go murder mode in underground no rules street fights. 😂
Some of yall acting like Tory taking her anger out on Sam woulda been completely a-okay, it actually baffles me
A PUNCHING BAG could’ve sufficed. She was already gonna seriously injure Sam before Daniel stepped in.
Sam could have handled it.
@@josephesquivel4066She was going to get punched really hards in face, definitely a broken nose or cheek bone.
That's not karate anymore, it's a brawl.
Tory fans want her to it
@@StardustLegacyFighter Karate is brawling dumbass.
@@josephesquivel4066she was about to get a punch to the face.
If you realize the hospital called Amanda instead of any relatives showing that she is the second closest thing to a mother figure for tory
It's called a Legal Guardian, which Amanda did act as for a time when Tory went back to school earlier in the series. So it only makes sense Amanda was contacted. She probably was listed as such on a Contacts List. Tory wasn't going to go to her greedy Aunt who was practically hoping Tory's mom would die. Can't list Kreese because he at this point in the series is considered to be deceased on the books. Amanda is it and best choice of contact.
When she walked out, I thought Tory was going to quit karate for good. What a swerve at the end.
I predicted that her mom dies and quit the Sekai to raise her brother, but not rejoining CK
Julie and Mike should just give Tory a hug for this one
She didn’t need to fight, she needed therapy.
Daniel was absolutely right, Tory was not in the right head space here and it’s better that she didn’t continue the fight.
TORY DESERVED HAPPINESS MAN 😭😭
They js cant stop putting her through shit (this & nerfing Miguel is js funny) Peyton was pretty good here man
I don’t think they nerfed Miguel. Miguel has proven that in a no holds barred fight he can beat Robby. Robby just won the point system tournament style. There’s a difference
They didn’t nerf Miguel is anything it they nerfed hawk physically and Kenny mentally
They didn’t nerf Miguel. The show has pretty much displayed time and time again that they are the two best child fighters in the show and they are about equal. Robby simply wanted the W more than Miguel this time, Miguel is still a formidable fighter and he will definitely perform great in the Sekai Takai, even against CK best fighter.
Also what I love about these matches is the kids don’t hold their losses against the other, they respect and show excitement for the other persons W, which is the whole point
Robby is already proven to have a better tournament style fighting. Miguel wins street fights, Robby wins point fights.
Bye why did they just start nerfing characters in s6 😭
Daniel had the right idea. But he should have waited to stop the fight until Tory or Sam scored the next point.
I’m pretty sure she was about to cause serious damage to Sam
Tory was about to NAIL Sam in the face, and considering what she did after her last point I don't think it would've stopped there.
@@obsessedwiththegreatness Daniel was right to stp the fight. Only he could have done differenty was to reschedule it.
my Mom died about 3 weeks before this episode. I can't and won't talk about how rough it was for me. But this episode....I believe art finds you. When you need it. When Tory says "because my Mother died" I understood that. It's the worse news to share. Each time I say it, it hurts. But this episode was there when I needed it. Thank you.
I'm so sorry. You know your mom is always with you no matter what & she loves you forever
It’s not about I blame Tory. It’s about I am blaming the writers.
Johnny should have gotten Tory a punching bag. It would have therapeutic for Tory to get her anger out, but Sam is not a punching bag. Johnny had no right to offer her up as one. But we're talking about Johnny, who himself offered up his own son as a punching bag (in S5E5) so that Miguel would make peace with him and they'd be friends for Johnny's sake. Like Sam, Robby didn't want to fight, but Robby doesn't have a dad like Daniel. Robby is cursed with Johnny. Johnny's such a hypocrite. He egged Tory on about the LaRussos taking sides, but that's all he's ever done when it comes to Miguel and Robby. Even in S5E5, he should have prioritized Robby's needs over Miguel's anger, but Johnny didn't. Robby has "second place" trauma for many reasons, Johnny being highest on the list of reasons.
I would honestly love to give Tory a hug if I could. She needs one
This scene was so intense, how Daniel knew about what happened to Tory’s mom and refused the fight to continue. Possibly that Tory would put her anger to Sam and take things too far
I think it was good to stop the fight even though it could have gone differently. If Tory wasn't going through this situation they would have continued the fight without interference, leaving the fight as it was, plus Tory was out of control and Sam still put up a good fight and fought fair, it is valid that Sam wanted to beat Tory but she would have accepted If she had lost fairly against Tory, not everything is overprotection towards Sam, plus either of the two could get hurt :3
When Larusso says, "Sensei Lawrence some help here please" hoping for Johnny to take his side and Johnny basically says "F you" it makes me laugh not gonna lie.
Johnny is in the wrong here, beating Sam in this fight won’t prove any or make it any better. She needs time to grieve, and support from her friends.
Right, about that…😮
I think Sam looked scared the look in Tory eyes looked like pure blood I got to win this for my mother that is powerful the fact they stop this wasn't to help Tory it was to keep Sam from getting injured or killed lets be honest her Sam looked scared to death again and I don't blame her Tory when she sees red is bigger and stronger not to mention even faster it seems Sam is just over matched even Daniel blocked Tory punch that clearly was going to cause some damage to Sam she was back peddling with her hands down no chance she blocks that punch!
Let her fight it out it worked with Miguel and Robby even tho they weren’t in the same situation Tory was in and Johnny and Tory are natural aggressive people so he can relate to her someway unlike Daniel
Johnny is always wrong. He has thinking of a 13 year old teenager
@@Aobix u mean Daniel
Peytons acting this season overpowered everyone, absolutely outstanding
For those agreeing with Johnny about letting her continue to fight Sam.
She was being a little bit reckless. The kids, Amanda and Daniel were even seeing it by watching how Tory was fighting. She wasn't in the right head space to fight in that moment. She could have hurt Sam or even herself. She was legit holding everything in with grief and anger and wouldn't talk to anyone, including Robby, when he had been trying to reach her since the day before. Daniel and Amanda were more worried about Tory with her mental health and well-being as they should. Yes, Johnny knows what it's like to lose his mom, but don't forget Daniel also knows about loss as well he lost his dad at a young age and then lost Mr. Miyagi later in life, who was another father figure to him. He's just as much of a hot head as Johnny and Tory is.
I mean, fighting a punching bag/dummy is one thing to let it all out, but to do a
1 on 1 fight match with another student, no, it wasn't the right time to do that. All it takes is 1 reckless move and it can can injure someone badly. Any of your top good athlete coaches in any kind of sport won't let their students practice/compete while they are in a fresh grieving state with anger especially in sports like martial arts/boxing/wrestling/gymnastics/certain dance styles/skating/nascar driving the sports that really focuses on having a clear balance focus. Look what happened when Robby was filled with rage when he fought Miguel in season two at the school. All it took was just the 1 kick that sent Miguel into the hospital with a coma and had to relearn on how to walk. At first Robby was in control during that fight until that rage fully took over and didn't realize what he had just done until right after he did it. He wanted to finish the fight but he didn't think it would end in that way.
Tory's acting is amazing they gotta give this gurl a reward 👏🏿
All this Daniel hate is seriously dumb.
If Sam would have got badly injured and sent to the hospital then the same dumb people would call out Daniel or Johnny for being irresponsible adults for not stopping the fight.
Sam already got sent to hospital before, and I don't think that any rational parent would ever want to see their daughter get injured again.
Well what can we expect from 13 year old johnny fans
Kreese icing Tory’s mom to get her back is INSANE but also very in character
it’s pointing more towards terry silver as the killer
maan this was a better fight than miguel vs robby
@ChristopherRamosj6eb yea maybe ur right but what i mean is tory needs to fight to let out her emotions and that gives the fight a meaning
No. it was a lot more edits/cuts because they heavily relied on stunt doubles. In the miguel/robby fight, it doesn't look as cool because you can see their face and full body in the shot and neither of them are professional stuntment/fighters.
bro idk if this scene was meant to be written this way but they literally did nothing to help her, it actually angers me so much, I’m honestly glad she went to cobra kai atp.
I would’ve gone after her
The thing that pisses me off about this whole scene is the fact that barely anyone reacted to this. And when she walked off, how no one chased after her. If anything, this should’ve been Tory’s moment where she finally realizes that she’s in the right dojo after they all surround her with love and say things like, “I can’t imagine what you’re going through right now, but Tory, just please understand that you don’t have to go through it alone. We’ve been through a lot but right now, us, this dojo, everybody here, we’re a family, and you, you’re a part of that family now.”
Leave her alone
And then Robby resorts to smiling in the next scene while Tory just broke down
@@Deity_devil I forgot about that. This whole scene was just poorly written.
S6 writing is shit and rusty
Compared to other seasons
They shouldnt have made it in 3 parts at first place
I feel like after Daniel stopped the punch he should have gave Tory a point. And then tell her to take it down a notch or try to see why she's going so hard. And then let them finish.
This was such a sad episode. After when Tory runs out why did Robby not go after her? He just found out about her mother
The writing on these aren’t the best. I love the show, but that’s probably it’s biggest weakness.
Robby should have done way better.
Watching this back b4 part 2 comes out, i agree with daniel. He lost his father when he was young too. Johnny also had right idea but it was like he saw it as daniel challenging him more than anything else. Part 3 is gonna probs show another interraction between daniel and tory talking abt what happened and her saying she dont blame daniel for stopping it and stuff
I agree with Daniel, Kratos once fought with blinding rage and he destroyed all of Greece
The flying car wheel been on repeat for an hour now.!Tory look so bad ass doin that move
0:27 poor tory is so distraught she goes to line up on the wrong side of the mat😭
Peyton List, take a fucking bow.
This young lady is magnificent. I hope we see her in other stuff soon.
I know this feeling all too well. You feel scared, enraged, you feel like the world is taking everything you love. You want to fight it out and just let all the rage out on someone and don’t care who it is. I can tell you this feeling won’t help you. It’s going to drive away all the people that care about you.
I let my rage get the better of me but it’s like a double edged sword. It may hurt the enemy but it can hurt you instead.
Tory clearly still has some un resolved issuses with Sam and she clearly doesn't want to be second best which would explain why she rejoined Cobra Kai.
She joined cobra Kai cus Kreeses mother died too and obviously knew which buttons to press to get her on his side
What hell are you talking about? What unresolved issues? 😅
She was going to kill Sam she was clearly better then Sam once again its amazing to me the reason the parents wanted to stop that fight is Sam was going to get hurt period I fine it ironic actually that Tory pretty much pushes Sam around she is at min 2 x stronger her kicks knock Sam backwards its clearly a size difference and its huge in this fight because not only is Tory bigger she even seems faster then Sam which once again speed kills vs Power yet she is better in both areas ! The funny part is Sam wins every time because of her daddy last name but when you watch her fight Tory clearly looks on another level! I have a feeling Tory is going to beat Sam and Robbie is going to beat his foe tying it 1-1 then they will have to have another fight to determine true winner with both winners of there matches eliminated from last battle to break tie in steps Miguel vs the best fighter Cobra Kia has because he lost to Robbie he can fight the last one and they won't put Sam vs him its going to be Miguel for the win. I just betting it Tory and Robbie will be on the platform both winners but Miguel will be the tie breaker. Just a hunch
That’s not why she joined cobra Kai the reason why she joined is because of her mom dying are y’all watching the same show ?😭
@@chaseeferll2034I’m saying 😂 they tweaking
The way Robby knew something was off
Why did they make Tory join Cobra Kai again after everything? After all they did to make her suffer to the fullest and she knows that, her mother dying litetally shouldn’t affect that decision in any way? They ruined her character by making her leave Miyagi Do
Yeah I know it’s so stupid. I’m just hoping that’s it’s a dream when Tory joins back Cobra Kai😅. And it seems like sekai Taikai is happening early especially episode 6 part 2🤷🏼♀️ like I was predicting it to happen at the last five episodes or something.
Your making is seem like she is aligned with the ideology of cobra kai . She is only on their team so she can compete apart of the tournament as captain. She doesn't care for them or Kreese
@@SSSyhhexactly bro it’s like these people js didn’t watch the show. she needs that captain spot, and if she wasn’t gonna get it at miyagi-do, there’s only 1 other place to go
My problem with this season is that too many characters were regressed in order to create conflict. Daniel is back to spreading the Miyagi Do gospel, Johnny is conforming to Miyagi Do, and we have Johnny vs Daniel AGAIN, Hawk is back to getting his ass kicked, Dimitri is back to being a toxic friend, Kenny is back to being class clown, Anthony is back to being LaPusso and laughing at Kenny, Devon only gets into the tournament by cheating, and finally Tory is back to listening to Kreese despite the fact that every time she does, she digs herself a bigger hole.
It's almost like they set up a bunch of conflicts to be resolved at the end of the story. Maybe we're watching a tv show? @@stevenceja4706
Imagine if Johnny and Tory fought out their grief by sparing with each other.
Im ngl Johnny pissed me off this season. "If she wants to fight let her fight". Bro shes not in the right head space. Daniel was 100% in the right here
i mean she did one illegal thing. that’s it, i wouldn’t say she’s fighting dirty
And so what doing nothing to grief is useless doing something passionate your about does it work with Miguel and Robby even if they weren’t in the same situation with Tory and Johnny and Tory are both natural aggressive people and fighting is what there passionate about so they should’ve let the fight continue Daniel is one of the worst characters in this show he’s complete unlikeable
Disagree fighting can help you through it
@@Deity_devil And what if she hurts Sam, or herself in the process? What good would they be then for Miyagi-Do in the Sekai Taikai?....
Ngl your very wrong daniel was the most annoying this season he wouldn’t let Johnny do his own teaching and when Johnny said I’m so tired of hearing it the miyagi do way trust me I got tired of it too and Daniel completely forgot again when mr miyagi said one day u gonna train your own way
Here's the thing about Tory. All her life, she's been on her own. Looking after herself. Looking out for herself. But now, she has people in her life. People who care about her. Friends, family and more.
But she doesn't get that. Tory doesn't understand that she doesn’t have to fight all the time. She has people in her corner, and she's allowed to ask for help. Allowed to let others in.
Tory, dear, your mother would not want you to fight the people who want to help you. She would've wanted you to accept them.
I love Tory as a character, but at the end of the day, that's her fatal flaw. The inability to see and embrace the love that surrounds her.
"There's no one," she said. Are you sure about that?
I thought it was terrible for the series to have Tory changing sides....damn, she always comes out as the wrong one, look at the situation she's going through and where's her support?
Kreese. As always
Made 0 sense that all of them with this great knowledge and wisdom yet none of them tried to go after her and help. Plus I'd like to add this is the MOST likeable Sam has been this entire show. I literally had nothing bad to say about her this season.
I watched all the season it was so good
1. It was a sporting fight in a safe environmentt.
2. She didn't fight out of hatred, she fought to honor the life project she had with her mother.
3. There isn´t exist a right mental space. There are always problems of any kind that influence our thoughts and actions. We have to deal with it in our own way.
4. Karate is a martial art. It is not only a way to attack or defend yourself, it is also a way of expressing and releasing emotions.
I agree with Jhonny. No one has the right to tell you how to grieve.
Johnny is the one to blame here in this scene. He was being so immature about Daniel wanting to stop the fight, so proud of not wanting to agree with Daniel that he resort to making comments right in front of Tory making her doubt that them 🙄
It's not Johnny fault, Tory would have won, but does Sam have to win like always? They didn't want their princess to get hurt, It's true that Tory doesn't have a mother anymore and that's why she was angry and sad and wanted to win. They never let Tory get a decent win for once.💀
@@abjfhfdhj I agree that Johnny was right in wanting to let Tory finish the fight, but there's no guarantee Tory would've won even if it hadn't been stopped, if Tory landed a point there it would've been 2-2, it could've still gone either way after that.
@@lukemiao4454 But Larusso shouldn’t have stopped the fight isn’t Sam more experienced and much better than Tory? so why didn’t she defend herself, is it the first time that she saw a fist or why she got so scared💀And yes it would have been 2-2 but I think Tory would have still won, also until Season 6 sam was better than tory but now i think tory is definitely gonna be a better fighter,in this fight scene she really had more chance to win and they better give tory a decent win.
@@abjfhfdhj She didn't look particularly scared. And your insistence that Tory would've won is speculation at best.
@@lukemiao4454 yes she was wdym
Time-out
To Tory: "Are you fighting your opponent or your enemy?"
To Sam: "Are you fighting your friend or your opponent?"
Back to fight
I feel very sad for Tory, she spent her whole life fighting.....I hope she gets back on the good side soon.
Maybe she’ll have a vision of her mother telling her that it’s okay and that she should join Miyagi-Do and let the LaRusso family take care of her.
I remember when first watching Cobra Kai .. I first thought of Tory as some nice eye candy but as seasons went on I felt bad for her and wanted her to succeed.. Poor thing
While people are thinking John Kreese had involvement with Torys moms death I am going to say right now. This stinks of Terry Silver. Here me out
Terry Silver bribed the referee in that contest that Tory didnt win and she went public about it. She refused to be a champion off that tainted victory. And by doing so she caused unwanted attention when Tory and others broke into Silvers home and found the evidence of what happened and uploaded it. And we must remember Silver does crap like this when he wants to get what he wants and wants revenge. Do you all forget how he made Daniels life a living hell in Karate Kid 3? Or how he framed and sent John Kreese to jail? Silver has had involvement with destroying people for money and power. Trust me. Silver did this.
Slight snag in your theory. Silver’s locked up
@@joewhitehead3 yeah but Terry could have planned this before he was arrested. And just cause he’s in jail dosnt mean he can’t arrange a scheme. Terry is evil enough to do this.
@@AFanOfUA-cam-eh2cn But he seems more of a hands-on do-it-yourself type. Can’t really do something like that from the inside
1:42 - This is the "Thousand-Yard Stare" Tory is displaying. An emotionless and blank dissociated expression caused by significant emotional trauma and psychological distress. Tory is existing in the moment but at the same time a million miles away.
As someone who has been on this level of emotional anguish, I can confirm from experience that it's a very scary thing to be in the moment without being in the moment while not being able to feel the scary thing you are feeling.
If that last sentence before this one confuses you, be thankful that you never experienced such a traumatic experience that would make it make sense.
And then she end up joining back kreese and kim only to have them mess.with her head so she'll get angry with power but only to mess with her mentally and emotionally
Felt so sorry for her, she’s gone through a lot and suffered through the years. She is a sweet adorable girl when she is mad and angry though. Man i’m gonna miss this series after this season. The best fighting series ever created . Daniel stopped it at the right time as they were wondering all the time what has flown in to Tory she was very reckless and fighting to kill, she could’ve hurt Sam badly if Daniel didn’t intervene at last. I understand her sorrow and grief but it was not the right day to fight.
People are crazy to think that Tory would beat Sam fair and square
Tory was fighting in anger and going all out but sam still managed to keep up with her
If they face in the final Sam wins all day long
*Its good they stopped the fight
idk wtf u watched but sam was not keeping up. they kept showing zoom ups of her eyes TERRIFIED. tory put the fear of god in her
@@Yoxhio_ She was confused and wandering why Tory is being so aggressive.
Sam is the one who was landing points 1st and Tory responding . So in a way its actually Sam who was leading and Tory keeping up
Never put passion in front of principle. Even if you win, you lose. - Mr. Miyagi.
It is going to be messy at the sekai takai tournement
This part made me cry, I felt so sad for Tori.
Arme Tori. Say one Word i come in the Show to console you😢😮😊❤ and Sam too.natural
The name is Tory. With a Y 😉
I love how Johnny took her side but Daniel was right to stop the fight.Tori was too hurt and angry and basically used Sam as a punching bag to ease her pain and grief.Sam didn't deserve it cause it wasn't her fault.Yet I think they should have just rescheduled the fight and someone should have went after her
Johnny looks different in white......think i like him better in red
I miss when Johnny was Cobra Kai😢😢
That got him even more let down.
nah he looks badass with black cobra kai which is where he belongs miguel, hawk, robby, tory, kenny all of them
I'm just glad he didn't go fully soft he still uses his offense every now and then
Johnny barely looks different in white he had on a white gi when he was a student in cobra kai
Daniel was right. Her mental headspace is more important than her doing something she regrets later. Like Robby with Miguel
Mental can go wrong if not Fighting at full Potential
Daniel was right to stop the fight when he did. But after that, he should’ve let Tory decide if she wanted to continue the fight.
Daniel and Amanda obviously had the best intentions. But the way they went about it validated what Kreese told Tory about them always putting Sam first. It also sent Tory the message that “the way you want to process your emotions is wrong.” That just made her feel like the broken bad person everyone assumed she was; like Sam assumed when they first met.
But if they gave Tory the choice to continue the fight or not, it would’ve sent the message that “you’re a member of this dojo. We want to be there for you. Tell us how we can best support you.” That would’ve made Tory feel seen, heard, and accepted. Honestly I think if they gave her the choice, she would’ve chosen to stop the go herself. Or at least cooled off enough to continue without crossing a line
After seeing Tory mom flashback i remember how my childhood was very sad and depressing through growing up without a father, before my sister was born, and my mother had to work full time in order to make money to feed me and my sibling and have a place to live, my mother was a fighter and she's been through a lot and after learning and seeing this scene, I will help my mother for now on and learn to be a fighter and work hard to help her, much she did for me when i was little. i love you mother ❤
Miyagi is watching these events
He would've known what to do.
@@suryasingh9738he probably would have smacked Daniel for starting a 30 year old fight with Johnny and not just let him just have a dojo
@@Joe-x3p9i Daniel would have left it alone but he heard what Johnny did to Kyler and his friends. Even though Daniel didn’t know Kyler started the fight Johnny was being aggressive and antagonistic to Daniel every chance he got when Daniel just wanted to talk. Imagine if Johnny was willing to talk like a man. None of this would have happened.
@@Samuel.Strange.Supreme I think you forgot the first season Daniel was a complete dick
It’s crazy how much Johnny had a better point then Daniel most of the time 💀
YES EXACTLY, everyone keeps on saying daniel is wrong and everything
Johnny was being too douchy. Bro you're gonna be a father, just leave your 13 year old kid mentality
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!
He said that when he was a kid and his mom died all he wanted to do was get on the mat. So he thinks him and Tory grieve a similar way
@@DuelEditsYT And well how is Johnny's life now? I hope tory goes to therapist or talk to people like Daniel and Amanda so that she can have a better future and don't eat expired sandwiches on dinner like Johnny
@@Aobix yea I get what u mean. But the thing is after johnny was done with grieving he had no adults to help him. Tory is so lucky that she has all those people around her to help her. I hope she realizes that that is what they are trying to do
@@DuelEditsYT well Johnny had friends like Bobby, Tommy. Also Johnny doesn't have any financial burden like tory has.
@@Aobix Bobby was the only good influence lmao. Plus having money doesn't stop people from grieving.... Plus wasn't his stepfather a jerk
If Daniel whispered it quick in Johnny’s ear, he probably would’ve agreed to postpone the match and end today’s class to send everyone home then Johnny could’ve personally sparred with Tory since he knows what she needs and what she’s going through and not like she’d do damage to him since he easily avoided all of Robby’s hits in season 3.
daniel wanted to talk in private not in front of the kids. johnny was not listening.
normally I do not agree with Daniel in the show but in this case he 100% in the right here
Tory was acting on her grief in this fight (which I totally understand considering people will do a lot of things with their grief healthy or not) and she seriously could have hurt Sam in this match and Johnny was not doing anything to stop it and he was the ref
remember what happened when Robby acted on his anger and literally hurt Miguel to the point where Miguel was in a wheelchair with a serious back injury
the same thing (not to that extent though) could have happened with Tory and Sam here if Daniel didn't step in
@@danaestorms6957 and remember when Miguel and Robby ended there issues in season 5 by fighting it out remember when Daniel even recommended that Robby and Miguel should fight it out Johnny so it’s a contradiction that Daniel doesn’t let Tory fight out her anger even if Miguel and Robby weren’t going threw what Tory was
@@Deity_devil It wasn't fresh though between Miguel and Robby that had to deal with being rival/enemies same way how Johnny and Daniel were towards each other. Also that fight was a last resort kind of thing after Johnny had tried other things first. The apartment fight happened months after them butting heads with each other.
This here with Tory was completely different this wasn't about rivalry that they had to get over this was straight up fresh grief of losing someone that literally JUST happened to her where she hasn't had time to fully process or to even talk about it with someone. Any right professional coach in any type of sport especially martial arts/boxing/wrestling/gymnastics/dance/skating/ski/snowboard that involves needing a mental balance focus will always look out for their students well being first. They would not have their student practice/compete while they are in a fresh grieving state that could put them in harmsway. They could legit hurt someone or hurt themselves.
Love cobra kai. Great acting from tory . Can't wait till the next 5😊
They screwed Tory over by having her mother die just so she can’t beat Sam and go back to Cobra Kai after all the development? What was the point? Sam is the most protected on the show. Why would she join Kim when they despise each other and she tortured Tory? Their flogging Kreese at this stage. Massive steps back for Tory, they writers destroyed her. There’s always an excuse to not have Sam lose.
You're WAY off. The whole point of this was to set up Sam vs Tory at the tournament because they didn't want to have to build up another female Cobra Kai fighter. Sam and Tory have been very evenly matched from day one and the tournament should be their deciding fight, and most likely Tory will win because there's no way Kwon is winning. That will make them tied. My prediction is that the tie-breaker will be the senseis fighting. Kreese vs Johnny. But there's no chance Miyagi-Do wins both fights.
@@somegamer7958 Tory has to win cause Sam wins every single time from S2-6 so far it’s unfair
Yeah if Tory doesn’t beat Sam I’m done with this show
@@alanchamberlain9902 Sam never won a official fight stop being delusional, loser
Sam has always been the worst character in all of fiction
The "ending" of this first part was just 🔥. I think this could literally be the best Cobra Kai season... let's see how it goes further next