the most hated Guilty Gear character
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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correction: 6HS isn't an overhead, and the overhead rekka is done with P instead of S
JMCrofts, you are amazing!
yeah the s being an over head would be wild
Also, after the command grab super you DO get a guaranteed combo. I know people rush to put out content really fast after dlc so it's all good, just telling you :D
She's forgiven, Happy Chaos took her place
el players should be forced to play chaos players and no one else
People really forget about the war crime that is Plus R testament aren't we
Nah, HC just got added to the list, no trades here
I only play +R where everyone is bonkers so no complaints from me. 🤣
I would want to get into Strive because of the larger playerbase to play with, but I can't really get myself to like it :/
Might change in the future though, who knows, but it's a lot of work to learn multiple games, there's that too 🤣
PLAY +R!
What’s Funny, 😅I was scared they would implement Happy Chaos Gunplay Mechanics to her shotgun 💯
Thank god she’s just a simple mixup character…Imagine?😂💯
Might be coming around on Elphelt, she feels a bit like Noel from BB now
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking, and as a Noel main I love having a character that feels good
Bro I can finally play Noel in strive, new main.
@@TruNova We have Noel at home, bros
The combos are almost as long too lol
I know that I probably destroyed some lives by maining El in rev but still freaking enjoyed her. She is just waaaay too fun. In strive she still feels very simillar. Yes we lost pineberry but got a cool mixup stance instead and a goddamn Johnny cross up hop(no wonder he doesn't have this in strive). I love too that they changed alot of her op normals from rev but they still feel quite good. Elphelt mains eating good today.
How did you put up with her godawful dialog in Xrd?
@@thetoxicraptorz3482 I actually enjoyed her quirky personality so maybe that's why. She didn't change in strive though. Still likes to talk alooooot about the same stuff as in rev.
She have shades of Noel from Blazblue (they share same birthday weirdly enough)
@@thetoxicraptorz3482dont play on dub
I don't know how she ended up the most hated when Zappa in +R could do a full screen high low that you just have to respect. Though it is nice to see that Ishiwatari was also a fan of Noel Vermillion.
Excuse meWUT
@@Ramsey276onezappa’s sword. Projectile with no hurtbox that he sends outwards. Can go fullscreen with a 13f overhead that hits low afterwards, and if he’s jumping the mids become highs
@@babytricep437 OH
Q_Q
Zappa also had unpublishable bursts at times.
Maybe because that's +r and elphelt is hated in xrd
She actually have some cool things to do with that grenade move, like going corner to corner with a wall break on a counter hit. On blockstrings, her HS (the pistol one) put her at the perfect distance to do a double cross-up with the grenade + 236S or HS, where you cross the opponent but then jump back while the projectile is homing into they back. That move puts her into "air state" so you can do any air move and also jump or dash, but you are not plus on block and they can hit you on reaction or mash. She don't need to be a hard character, but you can MAKE her a hard character if you want with some cool combos.
Sorry if my English sucks, i'm brazillian
I’m gonna have to try this out. You’re English isn’t that bad. Actually I’ve seen native English speakers whose grammar.
She doesn't need counter hit to go corner to corner wall break. I found a combo that is just raw meterless corner to corner (6h starter though).
@@zpellet6326 Yeah, i just lab it, thanks for the info. The combo i discover is about the same thing, but you use 5S (Counter hit) + 6H with a wild assault, its almost the same thing but with a easier starter, 6h don't combo without a counter hit on 5S though :(
Seu inglês tá bom até pô, só achei 1 erro, que o "(the pistol one) put her" devia ser "(the pistol one) puts her" por conta de umas esquisitice de gramática.
Br jogando Guilty Gear WTF, última vez q eu entrei no jogo tinha dois players
While I do miss her gun stances, I think it’s fine in strive considering it already has a high skill floor gun character (HC does take more effort to learn but once you do, isn’t too hard of a character to manage and play).
And I also like the 2 different properties of her projectiles.
I haven't played XRD that much but I have a few hundred hours in Strive and man her design is absolutely amazing for me. I love the whole death metal thing going on and gameplay-wise I love her. Definitely my new main.
Correction, the S follow up of the rekka isn't an overhead, the P followup is though which isn't shown when talking about the rekka
I desperately want a Ruby Rose mod for this character
ángel from KoF: who are you?
Elphelt mid rekka: I'm you, but better.
At 6:06, Ky Kisuke becomes the void for a second then pops back to true reality. What an odd glitch.
While I’m sure the community will figure out some insane stuff that’ll need to be toned down a bit so far she’s a massive improvement “fun to fight” wise from her previous counterpart
Even if I don’t like her visual design as much
Personally I think she is my second favorite dlc character to play so far (with asuka being number one). She is pretty easy to learn but fun as heck to improve at. Just today i labbed like, 2 different wall to wall combos with her just because i found it fun.
If you were wondering btw
c.S > 2H > 214S > 2K > 236D (uncharged) > 2S > 2H > 214S > P rekka > H rekka > rrc (forward) > c.S > 2S > 2H > 214K wallsplat > 5D (charged) (6H works too)
The other one is
Counter hit 2H > 214K > c.S > 2S > 2H > 214S > P rekka > H rekka > rrc (forward) > c.S > 2S > 2H > 214K wallsplat > 5D (charged) (6H works too)
In the second one i did c.S > 2S on block before the counter hit, dont know if that matters but i thought ill mention it
I told myself I’d come back to strive if she came back and now I’m learning her and she’s SO MUCH FUN
They really knocked it out of the park with her design. Still the best dressed young lady in fighting games, a very balanced zoner with an actual kit, nice long distance 6H, crazy corner pressure with lollipop chain (you better start praying lol). Looooove her winning pose James Brown split (lol) and then fry scream. And she's definitely a great response to Crappy Chaos. Bravo honestly.
I don't really see any zoning in her kit. I'm pretty bummed about it. She uses her guns to basically mix you up, not keep you out. It's cool, I'm definitely gonna try her, but she isn't really zoning
@@pkphantomdid you miss the full screen homing projectile she has?
She still benefits more from getting in and mixing you but she can definitely still zone you
I think her design is only ok. Ramlethal's is better imo
@Stryfe52 That homing projectile's primary function is mixing you up tho. It looks pretty lousy for zoning imo
The new elphelt is so sick and cool!
Love it... No I worship her now.
She looks fun, makes me want to get back into GGS. I'm still struggling in SF6 because of input issues and inputs not coming out which I don't have in any other fighting game I've played.
Not sure how I feel about her. Her design is very conservative…. Play style is “interesting”.
I don't know how you can look at those thighs and call her design 'conservative', not to mention the massive sideboob in her official art
Like, yeah, she doesn't have giga cleavage bouncing all over the place like she did in Xrd, but I count that as an absolute win because it means she gets to be herself this time around
Once again they did a great job of taking an older character that was so far only iterated on once and gave them a character arc that moves them in a very positive direction for the character while incorporating what the character used to be. Both her visual redesign and her moving from a sort of very constrained "bride archetype" who is only able to talk about marriage, to metal idol with more of a personality and expression is just 10/10, top notch, and fits much better into GG and the roster as a whole. And her gameplay is so fun with the flip and the Noel-inspired freeform gun rekkas. DLC characters continue being bangers.
At 6:08 for some reason, Ky's visuals glitched out and I definitely thought I saw Robo Ky
She left the pin berry at home, all is forgiven
You can get something that sorta resembles pineberry by Roman cancelling the start up of 214HS
Chaos and Elphelt fighting for the most hated character of all tim. Ironic they both use Guns and both were strong in their first appearance
Both main hate Potemkin & Sol
As someone whose entry to the series was through Strive, I fully empathize with people who dislike the new Elphelt. I know she was popular and a lot of people liked the wedding motif and her unique gameplay with her different guns. I for one don't like her new design that much, but I do appreciate her more simple gameplay. I'm enjoying the character gameplay wise and the neon skins help to pretty up the design for me.
Edit: Just realized JM's name on Strive is "KrillinIRL." Absolute legend.
as a legacy player the new design is dope tbh, wish she still had her whole marriage obsession quirk but ik its subjective, fuck her regardless but at least she doesnt have pineberry unblockables and im glad new players can pick up the game, ny gripe is just that rn shes a bit too easy, having a whopping 2 moves, one of which being a full screen homing projectile lol
To be fair if they know the lore it make sense.
First she was gona marry to a metal rock musician before the Xrd story happen, and second she is Daisuke waifu ( and quite a lot of JP/ KR player waifu since she even top the most wanted character won again even Dizzy)
@@illgeteverythingbackpretty sure she is still obsessed with marriage, in arcade she was annoying nagoriyuki with the marriage certificate thing
@@illgeteverythingbackI mean she still kinda does have that quirk, it's just mellowed out a little bit
@@illgeteverythingback She does. She goes around with marriage certificates trying to trick people into signing it under the pretense that it's a contract to join her fan club.
The strivers yearn for blazblue
the blazblue players yearn for accent core
The strivers yearn for Sol Badguy
@@shinosu2328definetly not order sol right? right?
I play both
The +r players are fine with whatever’s in front of them honestly
12:15 Some men think they can outsmart me... perhaps, perhaps.
I've yet to see one that can outsmart BULLET.
i like her a lot!!!!! back in 2016 when i bought guilty gear rev she was the one character i care about, them Leo, Baiken, Sin, but she was my first contact with the franchise, i was just start playing fighting games at that time and i had a ton of fun with her. I can understand why people that played that game competitive may not like her, but im very happy she is back, in fact i dont play strike in more than a year, and im considering going back just because of her
"Speothos Venaticus!"
Giovanna: Easy, now. It's the name of the band.
Bestie Boi: :-P Happy Doggo
I think she was hated because she was ranged, but now we have Happy Chaos, so she won't be hated like back then.
P.S. I like her redesign, but without her hat it looks like something is missing. Maybe it's better for her current metal-idol style, but I miss her hat
Nah, Elphelt was never really ranged. She just had her every option being extremely good which includes more range. The pineberry grenade and shotgun pressure was insane.
I think her older design was more iconic and unique personally. I don’t mind a change in design, I expect that but, I kind of wish they kept more elements of her old design. Like her bunny ears and a bigger, more exaggerated choker. She just looks like a completely different character imo.
She looks like GG Djeeta
@@kogorun, thanks, that nailed it.
It's all personal preference obviously but I think she looks way better. Strive in general feels it's casual friday and everyone (other than Baiken, the spoil sport) dressed down in the office, so I think it fits better than sexualized bunny bride would have.
@@theshinwhisperer8279 well that is definitely just a difference in taste lol. I just personally always loved how ridiculous and bizarre some of the GG designs were before Vs the more casual looks now. Thats just how GG was built up and it’s what I grew to love. With Elphelt, I don’t dislike the design, I just wish it was more unique and reminiscent of her other design. Ram, I-No, and Anji did a good job with that. Changed things up without leaving too much behind.
@@theshinwhisperer8279 The Bunny Bride looks like a generic waifu IMO. The cute death metal girl may be a little trite and overdone but her redesign is way better than the original thirst trap she was
What I find amazing about her design is that it seems to be incredible at appealing both to thirst boys AND women. She has a style that is legit and looks like something someone would actually pick out for themselves and expresses her character strongly, not just something skimpy for the male gaze. And yet for the teenage anime fans, she still has that zettai ryōiki that I am sure they want. Great balancing act.
Don't forget about the lesbians. Some of us like her too.
What the hell is zettai ryoki
Agreed though, so much. Easily the best Strive redesign
Eh, it was better in Xrd.
@@fiascothe63rd Aren't lesbians typically also women?
I really liked old elphelts design but i still vibe with this one.
She seems like a cool character a nice change up from past self and She likes nago two that's so fun Love the interactions
The most hated in all games after GG Sign and Before GG Strive...
I mained Elphelt in Xrd and I also hated her sometimes so this opinion tracks
I'm glad they changed her playstyle. She looks fun now, altough still strong
spreading the good word I see
Funny thing to start the video with Leo footage. The irony. 😂
There is generational hatred with this character.
I love her visual redesign and death metal idol motif, the music. For some reason she looks smaller? Like she looks around the same height as ramlethal.
In terms of her revamped moveset, I haven’t played XRD, but I get the feeling it’s different gameplay, same bullshit. That rekka is a nightmare. You land her quarter circle back slash, you kinda win the game. I labbed her for 30 minutes, went to online, and I was essentially just able to mash her rekka and win. Her zoning is also nasty. The redirecting gun caught people so much.
Playing against her, people like to use her anti-air punch a lot. It does have a massive hitbox and it’s very fast. I can see so many people hating her.
But yeah, this is day 1, we’ll see what happens if we can develop a lot of counter play
Olny NA players i think, JP and KR want her back lol
ELPHELT can jail just as good as sol, but her weakness is Faust, Axl low (unless you force them to panic) and maybe potempkin
6h is also not an overhead💀
Can't wait to hear the crowd scream when she wins at events.
I have to mod her outfit out of the game into something else because it makes me ACT UP. I don't know what it is about it, but it hits me so damn hard I literally can't play.
I miss the fps mechanics like reloading with back and forward and the grenade but I do love her redesign so it’s not a deal breaker day 1 really enjoying her
Interested to see what kind of pro adoption she gets. I like her. Shes fun and fits my playstyle.
Her visual design is a 6/10 for me. In comparison to almost all strive characters she seems kind of...normal?
Ok i know hate elphelt... but strive elphelt looks pretty fire
0:47 she still has the marriage theme. Her gun is a marriage certificate and her dress was made to look like a bouquet of flowers.
Are characters like Elphelt simple compared to non-Guilty Gear fighting game characters? Like comparing her to a SF6, MK1, or idk GBVS character is she still a "simple" character?
Tbh I feel like her design needed a color that pops, like the red from her old design.
Definitely agree. Her current design lacks colors that jump out at you. Her hair has some of the pinkness back, but it's VERY faint and dull.
As a trans woman. yes give me the pink frilly murder machine that screeches into a microphone. I NEED IT
I wonder why JM is not streaming on Twitch anymore? i enjoyed his streams so much
I think he's moving more to youtube. Twitch doesn't monitize the same anymore and his youtube videos pay the bills.
Does he still do the monthly random game tournament with viewers?
she’s back and she’s THICC
Zappa nervously hiding in the corner of the room.
Finally, i can be happy i was about to become the King Goomba for her
I swear, Cassandra Lee Morris made Elphelt sound even BETTER than she did before. I think part of that has to do with the vocal talent she's gained since Xrd released (Nintendo fans may recognize her as the voice of Sophist in Fire Emblem: Three Houses and SEGA fans may remember her as Ringo and Morgana).
Lol I remember all my friends would call her Waifu Cable (MvC2)
So they turned Elphelt into Noel Vermillion, basically
i wonder Why is she hated is it because PLayers just hated Fighting against her? (Could be Something From Guilty Gear XRD REV 2)
No roses or is it just in the design of her dress?
No roses....
Soo eazy never lost a game to her.
She feels like Strive's version of Noel Vermillion. I love it.
When she does her grenade flip move, you can do the mid air shot and you will land in front of them while the bullet goes behind them
I love the new designs of this game. Including elphet. But i still cant get with the mechanics. It has lost much of its freedom. Ridiculous 30 hit combos and corner demolishing that i adore. Able to jump around and fly and move aĺl over the screen at break neck speeds. Every thing got dumbed down. But play the old games is what producers said to this statement. I hate getting dumber, get smarter, better, faster. And this applies to more than games. Bare the pain, get good.
her clothes look more red than pink, which is an important distinction i think since it's a nice hue specifically
She look like in sol bad guy outfit but womeswesr version ❤
You messed up, her overhead is the P followup, pressing slash again just gives another mid
Also her 6HS isnt an overhead either
I like her redesign, but it looks like something is missing when she doesn't have the hears
Most hated by some, but she's actually my favorite!
Dude the pink on her original colors is so freaking obnoxious, my eyes burned when I first saw her in action in competitive gameplay
for the people dont know, as a best friend of elphelt, she divorced and decided to presue her rock career and heal with music and move on in her life.
I don't mind her moveset in either Xrd or Strive to be honest, but I loathe her designs and personality in both games. Vile character and makes me regret getting the season pass.
I’ve played against +R Testament as an ABA player I know who I hate the most
Only thing I don’t like about her design is that it feels like she’s missing either contrast or color variety, whichever it is it feels too one note.
Her design is fine but the idol/streamer angle is crazy hack at this point
One can argue Zappa is the most hated character overall. Regardless bring him back with S-Ko please ❤️🩹
My favorite character is hated too but still waiting for Raven.
She's fooken busted.. every hit van turned to a combo..
I'm still hoping for Justice, but Ephelt is easily my favorite character so far, and the only character that brought me back to the game since release. There needed to be more freeform combos in Strive and her moves are just enough to get me interested again. Her bomb flip in particular is actually pretty awesome, being able to aerial in the middle of the move and shoot her projectile away from the enemy so it comes back from off screen.
Her English va and theme 👌🏾
How can anyone hate Elphelt? She’s adorable!
fun? So many of her fun stuff are removed now shes just a lame normal char....
I do not forgive Elphelt I have uninstalled strive now
She was practically Ruby on steroids
Her xrd version makes hc looks honest and balanced wth?
Im glad im not the only one that noticed the noel similaritys, thank you commenters
That color you like reminds me of the witch of mercury
HC gets more nerfs. She is just weak May.
Guilty Gear Strive after giving character fujin:
Her winscreen is a James Brown reference
She looks cute, but also super, super generic and boring.
Just like most of STRIVE, really.
Boring is subjective, find a smarter criticism.
And generic? GG is anything but.
They really went and put BabyMetal in Guilty Gear
Im going to have to say this is lowkey an L. The main reason is not the redesign or anyrhing but the lack of interestimg play as Jm said. I was hoping for stance or something which would have been fun and interesting but now she kinda feels like giovana in some ways and plays pretty standard to what the cast is like. Which is sad to see since guilty gear has always been one of those games where all the characters are typically kind of crazy and unique. I could be wrong as poeple find more stuff with her but everything seems pretty laid out bare with her kit.
Not trying to be rude in what i said just little disapointed in what we got.
you called a mid an overhead this is the worst day of my life
Did they bring insta kills back in this game?
She's into literal shotgun weddings
Gott damn that girl been eatin good since Xrd.
I actually miss the reloading the shotgun in combos. It made the shotgun so much cooler, and combos more unique when I played her. But I understand and I am glad that she doesn't have that crazy stance because the hate would have been too much. She is a lot of fun overall.
Isn’t she very beloved?
if you weren't fighting her yeah
Her character is beloved yes. I should know as she's literally my favourite GG character and I've seen plenty of other people say they love her personality. Her playstyle on the other hand...that's when the dislike for her comes in
6:08 Robo Ky confirmed!