I Will Never Trust Gaming Companies...
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2023
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Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be the end of more digital video games media. With great thanks to emulators like Xenia, Microsoft's latest delisting of games remains unaffected thanks to the community. However things look bleak going forward for the preservation of gaming. Thanks for watching!
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i will never trust manscaping companies
@@Dont_Stare_I_Will_Stare_Back yep
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One big eye-opener I had was I was at a convention recently, and there was this vendor selling Japanese imports of a bunch of games and CDs and stuff. And what I immediately noticed was just how much cheaper a lot of the games were than the US versions. Like a Japanese copy of Wind Waker was like $30, while the US copies were well over $100. The retro game market is a complete racket now.
You have to consider supply and demand as well however, there's more demand for US copies than Japanese copies as more people speak and read English than Japanese in America.
Same with cars only reason foreign cars are expensive is because of the customs & import fees some Japanese cars are are under $10,000 NEW not used NEW
It's also as a whole that the American market for literally anything is inflated beyond it's demand. People are delusional with how they value things and the dollar in a hobbyist's domain means almost the same as zimbabwe dollars.
I scored some Japanese gameboy games for cheap on mercari. If a game doesn't use much text you might as well get it for 5 bucks instead of 20.
Japan has a really big second hand market so prices are also probably cheaper because of the amount of them still around.
Don’t trust any large corporations.
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except manscaped apparently
You’ll have to change your username, Susan’s quitting as CEO as of today
The rage when you said "Literally 5 minutes of f***ing research." I felt that man. I felt that.
He has that indian impulsive rage
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Another positive for emulation(or piracy) is that you don't have to get additional game launchers that sometimes get added AFTER release
Like uplay, rockstar games launcher. R* launcher is even worse cuz you can't play your games offline.
Amen. And the repacks really help reduce bloated games as a bonus here and there. And no DRM that can potentially affect your performance. Really way more benefits than not when pirating.
Fuck companies that do that
@@kurayamik1 It's really sad when paying customers have worse experiences than pirates due to corporation greed.
@@HeirofDacia exactly. Both times I was able to play the new fire emblem games on switch around a week before officially launch.
Paying customers lose money AND have to wait
I firmly believe that because remasters and remakes add stuff like quality of life and better resolutions, or if a company won't make a game available, it's morally acceptable to pirate the OG version of a retro game.
Me: *laughs in GTA trilogy remastered*
So long since I've seen a TCA comment, with the Cory's lip guy everywhere popular UA-cam commenters started to disappear more, at least to me
@@qJusy I honestly don't mind it. At least this commenter can try to make original comments, unlike that guy. That cory lip guy just comments the same generic stuff over and over again.
Waiting for this comment to get at least 7k likes 😂
@@qJusy he commented on one of my videos lol
edit: the cow farm video if you're wondering
I love how game companies don’t bother with optimization and just let DLSS carry them ❤️
Seriously. I dunno what the fuck happened, but when I started playing cp2077 when it came out I could get 60 frames constant on high, now I can't get that on low just looking up at the skyline. It has to be that dlss update. I can't think up of anything else.
@@sirosagaming8228 Planned Obsolescence for gaming graphics.....
I wish I could say that DLSS carried Plague Tale Requiem, but I couldn't get a stable 60fps with the lowest settings on my 6GB 3060 on 1080p with it on.
Forsaken...
@@AzariusR POGG indeed
Big ups to all the big damn heroes cooking up emulation software out there. Y'all are doing legitimately important work for history.
Shoutout to the pirates too
I remember reading about Bleem! a lifetime ago. It blew my mind.
As soon as a company grows large enough and gets to a point where it has to please investors, they can no longer be trusted. Makes sense as those investors are usually faceless to the public, and aren’t the ones that receive flack during a controversy, so they have zero incentive to care about anything other than their return on investment. The worst part is that it’s only becoming harder and harder for new and passionate companies to compete with these mega corporations.
Yep if they go public instead of private I start to worry. Devolver Digital just recently went from private to public and imo it's only a matter of time until their quality degrades. Once you have to appease shareholders it's all about doing what makes the most money year over year
Yeah, only mega corp I truly still believe in is valve, probably because they're still a private company surprisingly. But I think they put there money into amazing things, they have revolutionized gaming and gaming tech many times now, I don't know another company that has done that, nintendo is the only thing that comes to mind but they've been penny pinchers for the last minute
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I personally think that arcade game preservation is pretty underrated. It's arguably one of the more consistent forms of preservation thanks to stuff like Arcade Archives, yet people don't talk about it that much.
console peasant
I'd say arcade preservation is a lot more stable if just because the culture of restoring cabinets goes all the way back to preserving pinball and analog arcade games, more generational knowledge thats been shared vs having to make new emulator development to preserve video games.
probably cuz arcade games just aren't as popular.
arcade games were designed to be an addictive but ultimately one-and-done deal, designed to skim quarters from everyone.
There are actually active scenes of arcade games, even the modern ones. They are just mostly underground and some obscure games that no one likes could well fall through the cracks.
What really does scare me (and what could change preservation for the worse) is the fact that Denuvo is expanding their DRM to consoles. meaning that it’s possible that even if we do own physical copies of a game that they’ll have to be authenticated by Denuvo and in the case the servers shut down one day it means we won’t be able to enjoy these games anymore until someone cracks them.
You can't pirate games on a console?! Why would companies put denuvo on a system that can't pirate games?!
@@NoName...... i mean the switch is doing it to prevent emulation piracy. Also you can pirate games on Playstation if you jailbreak it. From what I know People were pirating switch games on release day to play them on emulators. It’s quite a problem but Denuvo is a pretty shitty solution considering it negatively affects the actual consumers.
Ironically in 20 years the pirates will be the only people with a working copy 😂
@@NoName...... it is actually possible. For the Switch all you need is a pre-2018 model and an RCM jig to activate an exploit to homebrew your console, meaning pirating is possible.
For the PS4/PS5 you need a console within a certain firmware version to do it and it requires using a browser exploit to homebrew, once again making pirating possible
Reminds me of old cds with anti piracy measures using keys that would be in the box for the pc games but when you used them It wouldn't work so you had literally no way to play them at all as an average joe...
It's nice to here a large youtuber promoting game preservation.
Glad you mentioned HI Fi Rush, because that was the game that actually made me care about this topic again. I fell in love so hard with that game and had the thought "man I might not be able to play this again in 7 or so years. " The only other game I had that thought about was Megaman Legends 1&2. Which is why I have both of them downloaded on my ps3.
I don't normally use emulators. I don't emulate new games at all. But i have done so to play games I can no longer access without paying $100+ or used to own. Like Skies of Arcadia l, Paper Mario, and the previously mentioned Megaman games before they were released on ps3.
Say what you will about CD Projekt Red, launching GOG was one of the best things to ever happen in PC gaming. Offering DRM-Free copies of games, with manuals, soundtracks, etc. was a great idea. So many games have been brought back and preserved through them. I hope more services like GOG spring up for other mediums like music, movies, books, etc.
Yea but they also took Devotion off their store which was pretty lame
@@DarkeningDemise you dont have to use gog galaxy
@@DarkeningDemise I agree GOG isn't a perfect solution. With a 360 title, I can go to a brick and mortar store, pickup a disc, and run it perfectly fine on an offline 360. With GOG, you have to have an online connection available to purchase and download the game files. However, once you download the backup installers and the game itself, it's free of DRM. I don't need GOG Galaxy to play my library. Even if GOG goes offline, I'll still have the backup executables and can run them on any machine offline or on. I can't do that with Steam for example on most titles. I think Valve offers most if not all of their library of games and a handful of older titles that can be backed up for offline use without Steam. On the whole, most providers require their games to be launched through their client with an online connection.
For real. GOG is the only version of a game I'll pirate!
@@jaymon188 I back up all my GoG games on a 4 TB drive (and a backup on a second 4 TB drive. That's plenty of space for my needs, and there are bigger drive options.
Ever since micro-transactions became a thing embraced by EVERY major gaming companies, it's been hard to trust any!
Right even Resident evil 4 is getting hit
I personally try to not purchase games that use micro transactions
Goty 2022 Elen Ring has no Micro transaction. Hopefully these tech companies realizes this
@@codeXjs it doesn’t have microtransactions cause you can’t stick any in there in the first place lmao. You’d 100% see them in there if the company could figure out a decent way to do it. Or if they got rid of the people against it. That usually does it.
@@raccoon8743 from software has every right to stick any micro transaction in their titles but they decided not to. Instead they made everything available and free for us to enjoy.
They could add paid skins for characters etc
Funny that guy would mention physical games on USB drives. There's this company called MangaGamer that localizes Japanese visual novels. They used to distribute physical games on DVD, but since a lot of PC users in the US don't have disc drives anymore (Japan still very popular) they're now releasing on USB drives. Though for VNs even larger ones are really smaller compared to AAA games so they can get away using like 2-4GB USB drives which imagine could find a factory in China to make those for pennies
I duck tapped a disk drive to the back of my laptop, lol! The majority of my PC games are on CDs and I never bothered learning how to create ISOs and mount digital drives.
Keep in mind that game companies can remove a digital game that you already paid for. That is why I love physical copy.
Honestly, if Nintendo pulls this with games like pla or splat 2, I might learn to hack just to essentially make it a permanent game. But I think they're aware how mad people will get. Splatoon 1 is still playable and it was either on the wii or wii U- if I recall. Also I think Splat 2 cases, physical, unused is getting harder to find. And the fact that physical game are 60 bucks or more is ridiculous, especially with inflation still rising.
@@shaylynn926 Look up the regional pricing on Steam for Brazil. Brazilians legit have no choice but to pirate at this point.
Pc will forever have torrenting to help this happening but it shouldn’t be the option
On Steam, you still own games that get delisted so you can still download and play them.
@@fabledorchid8410 For now, anyway.
Games should be kept as art. This is a major disservice against the game developers who put their sweat and tears into these projects. They are being robbed of their chance to live on long after they are dead through these mediums.
So happy for emulation and the modding communities, without them I would have never experienced mgs 1,2,3 and 4
Translate to amerizan please 🙏 🤠
Game preservation is a HUGE deal to me. To the point that I have a Raspberry Pi mini-NAS attached to a 1TB SSD, loaded with server emulators for dead MMO's, legacy/release versions of games I own in case I ever want to revisit the "launch" experience, and even going so far as to archive old mods for games like Halflife 1, Unreal, Quake 3, etc.
I grew up in the age of Geocities, Angelfire, The "Planet" series of gaming sites, JK2Files/Filefront, etc. I know how likely the possibility of servers/sites going down is, and losing all of that to time itself. I'd like to be able to revisit that kind of stuff someday, if the mood takes me.
Man this makes me sad, as a fan of a near dead franchise one of their more elaborate titles was an online service that lasted less than It's first events, we got no client executable, login option or Server content found, all assets are basically lost if not videos and screenshots, and It was japanese only so you know the bulk of the non japanese fandom never got to try It :(
what’s geocities
@@phr3ui559 It was (is?) a service where you could host your website for free. It would display ads (iirc, it has been years since i used the site) but they weren't that bad and usually they didn't break your layout. Same like angelfire.
Memory lane, here I come.
i like how muta makes his own arguments to then answer them wrathfully
"Did you put the disc in the console?" he asked calmly
I hate micro transactions SO MUCH, my God. Screw gaming companies, it sucks seeing so many games have them its like I can't get away😭 I can't lose my Castle Crashers I will actually riot
I remember grinding so much Castle Crashers with my friends in hs!! I played recently at old friends place.. so much nostalgia. Guess imma need to buy a xbox so I can get og lmao
Castle Crashers is on Steam. I bought it the moment I saw it on steam. Loved it on the 360.
i hate microtransactions as much as the next guy but jesus i wouldnt piss my pants over it like you
no but seriously if those motherfuckers take away castle crashers im gnna commit genocide on a whole city
Even monster hunter, a series that used to be praised for having tons of content with no microtransactions, is full of them now.
Mega corporations shall not be trusted
Decades of cyberpunk media have been saying this. In the states at least, there used to be laws that limited mega corporations but well thanks Citizens United.
I Agree with this comment
Wow! now trust this ratio.
@@cooleradam4324 Something something money = free speech. Yet if you park a soundvan outside one of these rich politicians houses playing Imperial March 24/7 that somehow isn't free speech...
i still buy DVDs, CDs, and VHS tapes from thrift stores and flea markets. when i check for video games, there is usually only a million versions of sports games like madden :(
Lost Odyssey was my mom's game. Think it was the only Xbox game she played all the way through. It was a pretty game, and had little rabbits in pots that were fun to find.
This reminds me of how I visited a retro game store last summer and the prices were all over the place. $400 for EarthBound, but only $20 for Final Fantasty X-II. When I told my brother in law who loves Final Fantasy X, he said that the latter’s price was justified.
Honestly, I love FFX and don't like X-II. It has a great combat system with an objectively poor story, which is.... unfortunate given how much FFX had an impact on me.
I think more people should play X-2 that fever dream of a video game
After the 7 remake saga is all done I expect a 10-3 and a possible remake of 10 & 10-2.
Rockstar and Bethesda won’t just preserve gta v or Skyrim they’ll have them hooked up on life support like the emperor in the last Star Wars movie
Rockstar and Bethesda are both going to go down as one of the gaming companies in history
More like Mr. House
I'm STILL playing SKyrim to this day cause I just have that much fun with all the mods that have fundamentally overhauled all aspects of gameplay
It's guys like Mutahar and Ross Scott that have made me an acolyte in the world of preservation. I have a mountain of old games and systems that I have bought over the years before the retro game collecting market turned to shit. So I intend to hold on those systems for as long as it takes to keep them preserved because corpos like Nintendo or Microsoft sure as shit aren't preserving their history.
Never heard of "Ross Scott" will look up now, ty for pointing him out. 💯
@@DaWhiteTyger Ross Scott runs the channel "Accursed Farms." He mainly plays older video games while discussing a wide variety of topics, chief among which is game preservation. I *HIGHLY* recommend you start with his video "Games As A Service is Fraud" video.
@@DawnOfTheOzz definitely will do, I like the title of that video already. 😁
@@DawnOfTheOzz Freemans mind
Love how all of his videos eventually boil down to a debate over the morality of piracy lol
Even though I was born in the 2000s I still grew up on N64 games since my mom knew about emulators and downloaded Project 64 to the family PC. At the time I didn't know they were N64 games or what emulation was, I just thought she found a way to get us free games since ROMs were not being cracked down on at the time and were shared around. Pretty smart move on her part since the modern console games were expensive and ROMs were free, my brothers and I didn't know we were playing retro games. Good times, being a kid. Good thing we have emulators, if we didn't then you can just imagine how much eBay sellers would charge for games.
Your mom is awesome
What were the odds of having a cool mom like this?! Probably not even 1% of the 1%!
I love the times we live in when it comes to emulation. I have literally 10s of thousands of games backed up on multiple external ssd's, from the mid 70's up untill the ps2 era. Not that I play all of them, or even have played even half of them. But you never know what might happen to ROM sites or the internet as a whole in the future, and in a worst case scenario I have my own backup of decades of game roms and ISO's to both play and if need be help preserve and re-distribute
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You had a good up bringing. In the days of the PS1 I had an SNES. I will never forget when I got my first PS1, PS2, and and surely never forget the gigantic structure that was my Xbox with Halo 2.
I remember over 15 years ago, being amazed i was able to emulate GBA games on a 130 dollar phone
It's crazy how easy it is to install a ROM and just find the exact files for simple shit like that, I still think the PSP is a step above the DS but as the Ds went on it got so much better, we don't talk about the witch craft that is the 3DS imo...but GBA was a work of simplicity and art.
If I told my 10 year old self that I could fully emulate every Metroid GBA game on my phone 19 years later lol ide never have believed you.
Noice, I remember doing it with SNES games on my 128mb RAM gateway computer, powered by a first generation Intel Celeron processor, sometime in '01 or '02, over a 56kb dialup connection. 5mb ROM files took 30 to 45 mins to download, assuming no one used the phone. Fuckin good times...
@Red_Menace Dude haha I have MGS 2 and San Andreas on my Galaxy, late night MGS2 sessions on my phone is something I dreamt about as a kid
@@ramonmartinez7775 AYooo thats actually insane lol, I wonder if in another 13 years I can emulate full halo games 😂 I just found out they remastered Metroid Prime and it was a game I never considered having on the go as a kid.
Man even just talking about this stuff is nostalgic and fun.
I remember having a gamecube to gba emulator attachment for my silver gamecube, playing castlevania on the big screen.
Those were the days.
I actually stopped buying physical games altogether years ago. I agree with you about ownership but I found that over time my consoles and their components would begin to fail and they are harder and harder to replace. Then I would be sitting on a pile of expensive games that I can't do anything with and kind of stuck with the same situation.
True. I also kinda stopped buying physical since the game selection in my town is subpar AND I mostly buy from smaller dev studios, and they are the only ones actually needing digital-only ways of selling.
I used to buy physical, but once I tried digital, I couldn’t go back. The amount of times I’d have a disc just straight up stop reading correctly was immense. There’s still physical copies I have that have zero smudges or scratches that my consoles will refuse to read or install.
This has been happening to movies/TV shows that people have paid for only to be told they don't own said product you only buy the right to it for however long the license deal lasts to keep it on the service you bought it on. Not surprised this happens to game platforms.
Either Muta remember a really funny joke or he was _really happy_ to be sponsored by Manscaped, but him being in the verge of laughter in the beginning made me chuckle
It's because it's advertising focuses on the giblets lol
@YeaMan a bot and a lie
It was all fun until he decided to get irrationally angry at some random comment on the internet
@YeaMan I call shenanigans
@@KogasaTatara514 don't reply just report
My appetite for retro games is always bigger than my stomach. After spending thousands over the years on retro gaming and always walking away dissatisfied, I just emulate everything older now. The last time I got the urge to play an old game, I spent longer getting the emulator to work than actually playing. It feels like I am chasing childhood feelings that will never be the same when experienced as an adult. It is sad.
I feel like getting an emulator to work is one of an experience by itself too. Like installing Linux for the first time for me personally. Something different with the feeling of getting a thing working, not just using it.
Nostalgia is helluva drug
Just you problem 😊
Same thing dude I end up playing for like 30 minutes
@@toaleydanza14 same its very lack luster some of the time if the is what you thought it was.
I'm still hoping for a PC port or something for Lost Odyssey. It's crazy how underrated this was!
The biggest issue people have with getting into emulation and emulating games is finding safe ROMs for them to download and use
"You have to trust someone to get betrayed. I never did."
Facts Captain
Badass quote from a badass character.
I am so happy I’ve never spent money on micro transactions and never have pre ordered a single game, screw some of these companies
Yes
Yeah I don't even Play online most of the time so I can avoid the $10 a month just for the privilege. I play single player games offline 90% of the time. Scary that they're starting to make some of those online only, like Gran Turismo
You don’t have skins?
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Said no one ever
i wish i could say the same; fuck spending money on micro transactions, it is so lame and one way the gaming industry is kinda ass, at least as a consumer
I know multiple games that just straight up do not exist anymore because they were digital only and got taken down. One of my all time favorites was a multiplayer mech fighter game called Exteel. Apparently you can still download the files for it, but since there's no servers to log into and no known private servers, it's basically abandonware.
This is a great video Muta. You echo my thoughts exactly about physical games and how 99% of them contain all the data on disc, no internet needed to play. It's only, and mostly online only multiplayer physical games that's the problem. Can't understand how people still think physical games are incomplete or useless. It baffles me.
3:05 nah man. I just played mass effect for the first time last month and that game is gold. Beautiful world, incredible story, 100% worth preserving for future generations.
Are the remasters good? I haven’t played them before and was wondering if they held up to the original games.
@@inspectahgex1910 Yeah the remasters are actually great. They changed just enough, did not break anything. 100% worth.
Absolutely appalled that aegis wing and castle crashers got removed as those where literally the first games I played with my brothers
Ps4 and 5 still have castle crashers.
At least they released it on Xbox One and PS4. Its not completely gone, just the original X360 release is.
Same 😔
You own the license* to play the game even with the physical disc. I think this is important to note Muta. Great video and thank you for all of your insights. Much love
I love watching Mudas videos when I'm taking shits man, helps it just flow out and I feel relaxed. Thank you Muda you're helping the boys in ways more than Entertainment
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Ubisoft did Driver San Francisco dirty. They removed it from all storefronts :(
One recent story for me was being excited for Persona 3 and 4 remaster on PS4 then it was only digital. Then the Etrian Odyssey collection also published by Atlus. Happy they release the game but it's also digital only.
Thank you over this year or two you have completely convinced me to get favorite games on disc
Few days ago I had a person telling me Microtransactions and Battlepasses are only a thing because of physical media and that everyone who buys it are exploiting the publishers out of money.
All because I said Microsoft stopping selling physical media in Brazil was bad for the consumers 😂
Sounds like that person started gaming AFTER 2009, and prefers shooters.
@@ArDeeMee After hearing everything they were saying I even doubt they play any games at all 😅
What I like more about disk then digital is I could also come across it in store on discount or preloved, the downside is the disc could have been damaged by the previous owner but most stores are open and accepting to replace the title for you with another or a new version of it if there is no more secondhand copies available.
12:47 Literally the only exception is Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5. They released the game on the day Activision's rights to the franchise ran out. In order to keep up production demand, they only put the tutorial levels on the disc and disguised the rest of the game as an update.
@CAIDENROX: Put Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky while you're at it.
I was just checking Muta's channel for a new video and nothing. I go to raid the fridge and cabinets, cone back to the couch and he's uploaded! Perfect timing
Based Muta, emulation and digital copies of games are important, but physical games have their place and role as well.
Lost Odyssey is an absolute masterpiece. Easily a favorite game. One of VERY few that brought me to tears. This is upsetting to hear, but luckily I have a hard copy of this game.
@Alex Strange that you would say this. After a quick google search, Eurogamer, Gematsu, Gamerant, & Gameshub all reported that what Muta said is indeed true. Do you have anything to show that says otherwise?
@Alex Source?
Edit: Ok. LO(and the wole list) is being delisted only from the 360 marketplace, and apparentelly iis still available in the latter consoles
Muta failed to adress that the delisting is only from the 360 marketplace but every backwaks compatible game wouild still be available to purchase on One and the Series consoles.
@@Ms666slayer This is fair. I didn't realize it was exclusive to the 360, but his greater point still stands. In 5/10 years when the next system comes out, how far do you think they will carry these old titles?
The real issue being that your digital games will eventually be unavailable to you, no matter how much you paid for them or how much garbage you bought for them.
@@Ms666slayer Couldn't explain better!
This is part of the reason I like to buy music physically on a disc or digital via MP3 and download it over streaming my music
Muta, I loved that you mentioned Gears of War. I've been screaming at the sky for this for so long being a long time Gears fan. Makes no sense that Gears 1 4 and 5 have PC versions but you have to emulate 2 and 3. There have been rumors that The Coalition is working on a Gears Marcus Phoenix Remaster trilogy or something, but those are up in there. I'm actually involved in a small community that plays Gears 1 the OG Windows Vista version, you can still connect to mp servers even though GFWL is down forever
Don't worry guys, we will always be able to get Classic Doom running on anything with a circuit board in it.
First time I experienced this I bought Warcraft III on blizzard and then three weeks later when they released Warcraft III “reforged” they removed my WCIII copy immediately and stated I’d have to buy reforged at full price for $29.99. Complete BS how is that even legal. Never bought anything through bliz again. Even went out of my way to NOT play Warzone
I can really feel your passion coming out of my screen on this video, and you make some really good points.
I recently had a friend who wanted to play Age of Empires II and was wanting to get it on CD, instead I directed him to Steam. I'll admit I laughed at the absurdity of this wish in this day and age, but I also 100% see where he was coming from.
Red dead redemption at 60fps 1440p is a game changer
they've done great work
All you had to do is drop the Gaming from the title and it's way more accurate. Don't trust any company.... even charities....
damn never have thought about this, does make me scared that one day my steam library might just disappear
pretty much all the games i "own" are all cloud/online since i dont have space in my room for everything and pc games dont exactly get sold as discs from my knowledge anymore
I love how you have to explain how physical media works.
I immediately pre-ordered when he said “Jojo’s Bussy Oil”
This why I miss when pc games had physical copies.
13:13 Is true in Modern Warfare 2's case. The disc is only 70mb. So in that instance yes, some games don't have the game on it and you would have to connect to the internet. I wouldn't be surprised if every call of duty after keeps doing it.
Also, Hitman games (the modern ones) also require you to connect to the IO servers to get the "full experience" i.e. tools and weapons. Which are literally the only reasons to play the damn games.
I mean there is a story but... it's just a framing device for the fun ways to complete your missions.
Game preservation is why I buy hardcopies of most of my games.
I will never buy any digital game when physical is not an option. The only way I would play digital games is if they are included in a subscription service. When it’s not that, I’m perfectly fine to replay physical games I brought, emulation, and buy more physical copies of games while they are still out there
@@archonthaaproducer Those people rather have rentals
Not when patches come into the equation, oh! And disc rot too...
@@HUYI1 most games are totally playable without patches. I tried them. As for disc rot if you store them right they can last for a very long time. Also create backups of games you own
Lost Odyssey, damn. I saw a review on that a few years ago and wanted to play it ever since, because its so amazing for its time
Love the Content Muta . Infact coincidentally, I'm one of the fans who started watching your videos around that time when you released the MGS4 review . Just a heads up though , the "Jojoba Seed " is pronounced as "Hohoba seed" , maybe you already knew that but I just wanted to bring it up since this particular topic is a joke from an old movie.
I'm confused if you are aware that Lost Odyssey and all the games you listed are still available for purchase through Xbox One & Series storefronts. And the Xbox Microsoft site. The games had dual listings in both 360 marketplace & the modern storefront. I'm pretty sure you can buy them through those & then play it on the actual 360 if you wanted. But you can definitely still buy them all through those avenues & there's no sign they'll be delisted any time soon. The games that did get truly delisted are Daytona USA, Jet Set Radio, Orange Box, and Left 4 Dead.
I bought a couple of those delisted games, can I still play them?
I have an Xbox Series S.
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 yep. I bought them all before they were delisted, all still playable on Xbox Series & One.
I agree with you muta, modern gaming just doesn't add up anymore. They ether come unfinished, full of DLC, laughable amount of bugs and story plot.
Y’know; it’s wild to me to think that i’d ever hear Lost Odyssey be mentioned anywhere, i used to think it was such a hidden gem because everyone i would ask would never know what i’m talking about, i may have been wrong
17:34 But Muta, when I touch my console holding all my digitally purchased games, I AM holding the game files in my hand. You're making it sound like digitally purchased games are streamed through the cloud... :)
Thank you very much muta, I was looking what was the name of that game (lost Odyssey) was thinking of it a week or two ago. thank you for this gem as this is a game that I wanted to play when I was a little child and the only thing that I can do is to watch the trailer in a tv screen outside the store since we cant afford a xbox or a playstation. Oh such a memory. Thank you!
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Man really started the video out like 😏
That rage at 8:27 is mood when going on any gaming forum.
In the quantities in which the publishers can press the discs, the amounts are in the single-digit cent range per disc
I like how Ghost Recon Wildlands is a absolutely amazing game and then they created Breakpoint and just messed everything up
@@archonthaaproducer they cant cause breakpoint is always online. Games like wanted dead and gungrave gore can live to become cult followings despite negative reviews but games like babylons fall and godfall cannot cause they will no longer exist without servers.
this is the most profound ad read tone i have ever heard and i laughed for like 40% of it
The only reason I don't buy physical disks is because I play exclusively on PC, where games are never released physically. Even if they are released on a disk, it's just a cardboard disk with a steam key printed on it.
Muta was about to fly off the rails for a second there, lol.
Welcome to the club Muta! Your senior citizen discount card is in the mail.
Muta has the best mockery voice and Lost Odyssey was amazing
ROFLMAO, this funny voice is even funnier than your "but Muta" one. ❤️😂👍
9:44 fun fact the UHD BluRay Players support up 128GB BluRays basically when they revised BluRay and gave it a new monicker (BDXL or UHD BluRay) was certifying that was capable of reading three and four layer BluRays, right now 4 layer 128GB BluRays are very rare and hard to buy (in fact the easiest way is to use Amazon Japan and buy the only ones in production, that are form Sony) so probably every PS5 game uses 100GB three layer, but I wouldn’t be surprise if in the future (specially for some Call Of Duty) they begin to use the maximum they have available, those quad layer 128GB ones
Its nostalgia, but its also the creators who made so much more with so much less. Original IPs, everything.
That voice muta use was pure gold 😂😂😂😂
its gem
I set up RDR for Xenia a couple of weeks ago because I never played it and I LOVE RDR2 and also used the patches to upscale to 4K and 60FPS and I was blown away by how smoothly and almost completely bug free it ran. Props to the community that keeps these games alive for people like me. ❤
Man, Lost Odyssey was sick! Muta showing his reps once again
Archiving games is one of the most important activities in gaming
I’m glad somebody still sane out there. I hate people who prefer digital the rest of us are affected by your action. Just like the people buying micro transactions in every game
I grew up on Castle Crashers I know there will always be a way to play it but the fact that the official way is going away just shows that time is still going by
I wanna point out, while it's not all games, there ARE some games where the discs don't actually contain the game and you have to download it entirely anyway.
A recent example, was MW2 which only had 72mb of data on the disc and you had to download the actual 150gb game even with the disc.
This has been the case for a long time too, I remember buying the Orange Box as a kid and all it contained on the disc was a 1.0 copy of Steam and none of the data for TF2/Portal/HL2.
I also vaguely recall there being a game or 2 that was shipped literally unplayable and they needed to push out a patch to make disc copies actually have the files required to function (Which to be honest could probably applied to every Bethesda game...).
So yeah, companies do try to push people away from discs (Probably because it costs them money to have physical copies manufactured) from time to time.
Also, in the same vein, companies shy away from keeping digital versions of games available and instead prefer to do remasters to sell the game again (I saved so much money by not buying all the FF3-FF12 "remasters" (Which were just PC ports with an increased speed and auto-battle function added) Squeenix has pushed out over the last few years and instead just emulated all the OG versions for free.
BTW , you can also backup your PS5 , so this would be another perfect preservation , and it means you can backup your game patches as well !!
Lmao muta sounds like a mad teacher explaining the whole reason to own physical copies. He is right tho ive been thinking the same thing for years.
Lost odyssey will forever be in my heart and mind because of one of the Kaim dreams with Elegy Island. Never had a side quest left a impact on me with its use of story and especially the music!
This, 20% off of games through online platforms, I remember it well, it was advertised everywhere that without a middle man, without distribution chains, stores etc games will be cheaper on a online platform but somehow they went from 50 to 60 and now even 70 dollars. The price remained the same or got higher even though they did not have to make physical copies, get a retail distributor, ship products and pay customs and commercial taxes in several countries.
i am so happy i got the physical copy of lost odyssey. such and amazing game
Perfect example of the state of the industry is Hi Fi Rushs extremely positive audience reception. It would've totally been a B grade PS2 platformer back in the day, just shows how many developers these days dont make proper games.
Why the FUCK the is game streaming only on game pass?! A goddamn rhythm game, WITH GUARANTEED IMPUT LAG?!?!
It would've totally been B grade? I disagree.
That's some rose colored glasses there. Just because something is old doesnt mean it's always better. Were there some platformers that were better? Sure. Hi Fi Rush is a fantastic game that would have still been a fantastic game regardless of when it came out.
@@mrkoolaidism I didnt mean B grade as in bad, most B grade 6th gen platformers are good to amazing. I more so meant it would prob fly right under the radar back then like Psychonauts.
@@EnigmaticGentleman I mean it already flew under the radar so...