Didn't know that these palms can grow so well in parts of the UK. Especially without winter protection. Always thought it's colder than in my region (SW-Germany, Zone 8a). Thinking about planting mine in the garden since it's getting too big in the pot, but still unsure about wanting to have the effort of winter protection over here. Would be so great if I could just keep it growing without any big hassle.
Many thanks for highlighting the Canary Island date palm, in this particular video Kris. I believe it’s a Palm well Worth a try, especially if you have a garden with a microclimate, that’s naturally sheltered from the worst weather, and there’s plenty of sun. I have noticed over the years, a certain part/location in my garden where plants grow much better, they start early in the season, and finish late in the season.
Thank you for making this video. It looks like if a Phoenix Canariensis can survive the winters it will be huge. I have a moderate garden and think that it would be too big for it, especially as I like to do star gazing and I have two huge yew trees at the other end of the garden with preservation orders. I think that more modest trees like Trachycarpus fortunei 'Wagnerianus' or Chamaerops humilis ‘Vulcano’ would be more suitable for my needs. After watching you video, I was surprised with how some people grow such large trees in such small gardens. I suppose some people thought "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
A house a few doors away from me in North London have planted one right by their front window where it's very protected. All they have done the past 5 years is battle to contain all the outward growing leaves as it is now a considerable size with a large trunk.
Thanks for the brilliant video Kris. Seeing the timelapse is amazing giving such a clear idea on their fast growth rate. Beautiful specimens. If you have any similar videos in your mind about similar palm species in the Uk that'd be absolutely class. Great stuff. Cheers 👍
Torquay front has many of these too which are massive! We go on Holiday to Paignton every year, they have so many wonderful big palms. Not like Sheffield where I am! That was really interesting, sometimes you don't realise how much room they take.
@@YorkshireKRISthere’s a beautiful row of palm trees near Nine Elms station, London. 102 Wandsworth Road. Looks beautiful on a sunny day!! Thought I’d share 😊
Very interesting, thank you. Looking at those in London (and other front gardens) I wonder what will happen when the crowns get above the houses and lose the protection the buildings give. On the subject of front gardens, I know of several in Eastbourne and Hastings that have been planted in very small front gardens - spaces of about 1 metre x 1 metre. Presumably bought small from B&Q etc. several have their frond tips at roof height but little trunk. Regarding very large (not quite as big as the last one) specimens, I have seen several in and around an allotment near to Portsmouth Football Club. A fern grower I know has an allotment there with 3 full allotment sized shade houses full of ferns. Two have these palms planted in front with, when I saw them several years ago, very large trunks. They were/are the largest I have ever seen “in the flesh”. Again, thank you for this video.
A great post Kris, and certainly one of the most robust palms for coastal area's. I have Gorilla planted half a dozen in my local area and workplace to cheer me up when I pass them by over the years🌴👍
On Google Earth, if you do a search for "136 Cannon Hill Lane, London" you'll see a massive Canary Island date palm, as well as a smaller one. The smaller one is a replacement for the one of a then matching pair that died in a very cold winter; I think it was 2010.
I was thinking the same thing could the leaves be tied back with a fleece over. Got a small one in greenhouse so might give it a go next year was only 8 quid so not a big loss.
I have been visiting the one in the roundabout at Lambeth Bridge for about 12 years, although I have not been there for the last two years, due to the pandemic. I understand that there is a plan to rework this roundabout and remove the Phoenix due to a fatal cyclist accident a few years ago.
@@YorkshireKRIS Yes. My first message actually posted before I was finished writing it. The last time that I was there, a local resident stopped to talk with me because I was taking photos of the palm. She was urging me to write a letter in support of keeping it where it is. Afterwards, I looked it up, and indeed, that is / was the plan. However, the fact that it is still there gives me hope that it will not be removed.
Iv just got a house with one of these beautiful canary island date palms in south east, unfortunately it is affecting the house slight so will be needing to remove! If anyone reading this knows if there is a market for these large palms, I’d rather it got transported than cut down, please let me know
Nobody wants global warming! I live in a hot climate, multiple 40+degrees & a scorching east wind, it kills a lot of plants! The trouble is people want to grow what doesn't suit their climate, if you're got plenty of money to have a climate controlled greenhouse, otherwise get over it & stop whinging & grow plants suitable for your climate.
ive recently found out they've removed every or most palms from Torquay and torbay (The English Riviera) very sad and disappointed, was going there for a holiday, not anymore!
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The ones in Southsea are very impressive and drop loads of seed, I'm now growing on some seedlings from there
Didn't know that these palms can grow so well in parts of the UK. Especially without winter protection. Always thought it's colder than in my region (SW-Germany, Zone 8a). Thinking about planting mine in the garden since it's getting too big in the pot, but still unsure about wanting to have the effort of winter protection over here. Would be so great if I could just keep it growing without any big hassle.
I have a 6 foot to 7 foot Phoenix canaries growing in my south Manchester garden kris.
Wtf very nice specimens you lads got there. Good work and thanks for the nice vid✌
Many thanks for highlighting the Canary Island date palm, in this particular video Kris.
I believe it’s a Palm well Worth a try, especially if you have a garden with a microclimate, that’s naturally sheltered from the worst weather, and there’s plenty of sun. I have noticed over the years, a certain part/location in my garden where plants grow much better, they start early in the season, and finish late in the season.
Amazing bit of palm stalking....im going to trim my phoenix later this year i suspect it has 3ft of clear trunk
I thoroughly enjoyed this tour of CIDP’s across the UK. Thank you Kris.
Great palms. Lots in Cornwall where my daughter lived
Cornwall is the palm county of the UK
@@YorkshireKRIS You know it!
Nice tour thanks Chris
Hope they plant out even more palms in London. So it end up looking like southern Spain..
Are you aware of any bigger mule palms in the UK?
Gulf stream current have to love it. There are a few on our BC coast of Canada
Falmouth has loads of these too, real beasts
Thank you for making this video. It looks like if a Phoenix Canariensis can survive the winters it will be huge. I have a moderate garden and think that it would be too big for it, especially as I like to do star gazing and I have two huge yew trees at the other end of the garden with preservation orders.
I think that more modest trees like Trachycarpus fortunei 'Wagnerianus' or Chamaerops humilis ‘Vulcano’ would be more suitable for my needs.
After watching you video, I was surprised with how some people grow such large trees in such small gardens. I suppose some people thought "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Two good ones in Folkestone. CT19 6JX and CT19 6AT
There are some beauties in the UK. My daughter lives in south Cornwall and there were many CIDP
There are a couple of robust CIDPs in Hornsea, probably been in the garden 10 years in a smallish front garden, within sight of the sea.
I'll take a look
A house a few doors away from me in North London have planted one right by their front window where it's very protected. All they have done the past 5 years is battle to contain all the outward growing leaves as it is now a considerable size with a large trunk.
Yes, as the video shows, they are often planted in inappropriate places
Thanks for the brilliant video Kris. Seeing the timelapse is amazing giving such a clear idea on their fast growth rate. Beautiful specimens. If you have any similar videos in your mind about similar palm species in the Uk that'd be absolutely class. Great stuff. Cheers 👍
Yes I'll be doing all the widely grown species in time👍
@@YorkshireKRIS Brilliant stuff. I'll look forward to it. Great work. Much appreciated by this palm enthusiast
Torquay front has many of these too which are massive! We go on Holiday to Paignton every year, they have so many wonderful big palms. Not like Sheffield where I am! That was really interesting, sometimes you don't realise how much room they take.
Torquay is probably where I first realised you could grow tall palm trees in the UK.
@@YorkshireKRISthere’s a beautiful row of palm trees near Nine Elms station, London. 102 Wandsworth Road. Looks beautiful on a sunny day!! Thought I’d share 😊
Think I may have to dig mine up 🤣🤣
they are also popular as ornamental plants in various other perts of the world.
Very interesting, thank you. Looking at those in London (and other front gardens) I wonder what will happen when the crowns get above the houses and lose the protection the buildings give.
On the subject of front gardens, I know of several in Eastbourne and Hastings that have been planted in very small front gardens - spaces of about 1 metre x 1 metre. Presumably bought small from B&Q etc. several have their frond tips at roof height but little trunk.
Regarding very large (not quite as big as the last one) specimens, I have seen several in and around an allotment near to Portsmouth Football Club. A fern grower I know has an allotment there with 3 full allotment sized shade houses full of ferns. Two have these palms planted in front with, when I saw them several years ago, very large trunks. They were/are the largest I have ever seen “in the flesh”.
Again, thank you for this video.
A great post Kris, and certainly one of the most robust palms for coastal area's.
I have Gorilla planted half a dozen in my local area and workplace to cheer me up when I pass them by over the years🌴👍
roundabouts are great places for promoting plant conservation.
On Google Earth, if you do a search for "136 Cannon Hill Lane, London" you'll see a massive Canary Island date palm, as well as a smaller one. The smaller one is a replacement for the one of a then matching pair that died in a very cold winter; I think it was 2010.
Cheers, I'll check it out
I think people don't realise bow big they can get when they plant them in their small front gardens. They aren't really suitable for tiny gardens.
Quality video thanks. I now know that I won't be planting one of these in my garden :-)
They grow massive if winters don't kill them.
hey there brother..do any of these make seeds?
Yes quite a few do I believe
@@YorkshireKRIS can you pick some of the seeds for me? whats your contact?
Hi Kris have you ever protected your date palm? Cheers
I've tied the leave up when it gets really cold like February 2018
I was thinking the same thing could the leaves be tied back with a fleece over. Got a small one in greenhouse so might give it a go next year was only 8 quid so not a big loss.
@@Sandman0ssy yes good to tie the leaves up and cover in fleece when really cold. Only keep fleece on for a short time. Days not weeks
I have been visiting the one in the roundabout at Lambeth Bridge for about 12 years, although I have not been there for the last two years, due to the pandemic. I understand that there is a plan to rework this roundabout and remove the Phoenix due to a fatal cyclist accident a few years ago.
It would be a shame to lose this iconic palm. Hope it can be worked into the road amendments.
@@YorkshireKRIS Yes. My first message actually posted before I was finished writing it.
The last time that I was there, a local resident stopped to talk with me because I was taking photos of the palm. She was urging me to write a letter in support of keeping it where it is. Afterwards, I looked it up, and indeed, that is / was the plan. However, the fact that it is still there gives me hope that it will not be removed.
Iv just got a house with one of these beautiful canary island date palms in south east, unfortunately it is affecting the house slight so will be needing to remove! If anyone reading this knows if there is a market for these large palms, I’d rather it got transported than cut down, please let me know
Some great specimens here, mine are pretty paltry in a cold greenhouse, role on global warming.
Nobody wants global warming! I live in a hot climate, multiple 40+degrees & a scorching east wind, it kills a lot of plants! The trouble is people want to grow what doesn't suit their climate, if you're got plenty of money to have a climate controlled greenhouse, otherwise get over it & stop whinging & grow plants suitable for your climate.
@@jenenamaughan1992 growing tropical plants in a cold climate isa challenge worth taking for a nice display. I was not whinging!
@@bloggalot4718 sorry, I was a bit harsh.
ive recently found out they've removed every or most palms from Torquay and torbay (The English Riviera) very sad and disappointed, was going there for a holiday, not anymore!
That's news to me. I wonder why
We have a fair few down here on the Isle of Wight. Actually the council have put more of them in. I also bought one for the garden earlier today.
Is this type of palm fruitful?
She is so huge
It is best grown in large green areas
It fruits yes, but not the edible date fruit.
This is like a public information film to warn would-be CIDP growers to not plant in a small front garden 😂
Im glad the message came across👍🤣
we can hope those missing palm were sold off
i should say