Detroit Passenger Trains 1960s & 1970s
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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All New--From the Camera of Emery Gulash!
Detroit Passenger Trains 60's and 70's
(16mm Color Film From The Camera of Emery Gulash)
Detroit has a long history as a vibrant railroad city. Nearly a half-century ago, when Emery Gulash shot these action scenes of passenger trains in and around Motor City, more than a half dozen major railroads served the area, most with their own distinctive passenger service, often with cars from different railroads in the same colorful train.
Today all of them are fallen flags, absorbed or merged into larger companies during the non-stop mergers of the 1960s and 1970s. Go back with us to that era for a real blast from railroading's past. It was the Last Hurrah before the homogenization of passenger service nationwide by Amtrak.
This program includes footage of the following: B&O, C&O, Canadian National, Pere Marquette, N&W, Penn Central, Wabash, GT, NYC, Canadian Pacific, Budd Rail Diesel.
This 16mm Film has been Transferred on a State of the Art Frame by Frame Transfer Machine into 1080 High Definition Video for the Ultimate Color, brightness and Detail.
Approx; 48 Minutes
Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound
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Being born in Delray in the mid 1950's, and raised there through the 1970's, and living only a few blocks from Delray Tower - it was very cool to see all types of locomotives cross Dearborn Ave. From old steam loco's, to modern day bullet designed express diesel engines, and each train having a caboose trailing behind like a loyal puppy. Can't count how many times I laid coins on the nearby tracks, and watched them get flattened as the train went by. I still have some of them in my dresser drawer today. I would sometimes pull my pants down and moon the people in the passenger trains going by, while standing on "the hills" located between the southbound tracks over the Rough River - near the Wabash Bridge and the Delray Tower. To do something different when the passenger trains went by, my friends and I would throw in an occasional national sign of discontent - the middle finger. Imagine the adults & children looking out the windows at their seats, and looking at kids standing near the train tracks giving them the middle finger. We figured that we would never see those people again in our lives, so what's the big deal flipping the bird to stranger's passing through the hood?
Anyway, living near the tracks around Delray Tower as kids,, was a great way to spend time in the outdoors, even in cold winter days. There was always some adventure to be involved in, and witness railroad history go by everyday. Used to walk to the nearby G.M. Fischer Fleetwood Plant, and look through the open windows at sidewalk level on Fort St. to see Cadillac car body's being assembled, and watch them being transported by diesel truck & special built trailers to the Clark St. Assembly Plant a few miles away. Yes Detroit was a constant moving machine with trains, planes, lake freighters, trucks and automobiles. All of that is long gone now, and the children today hardly leave the house to enjoy the sights and sounds of their neighborhood. Today, they just sit and stare into a phone or hand held computer game screen. Hypnotized like silent zombies. I was lucky to grow up in the Era of the 50's - 60's & 70's. There was sooo many free things to see and do around Detroit. Now innocent kids and adults are being shot at and killed on Detroit freeways, just because people are driving the speed limit,, and you slowed somebody down by being in their way as they wanted your lane for themselves to drive their vehicle at any fast speed. In Greektown , a Detroit landmark of Greek restaurants,, people are getting beat up,, robbed and shot and killed, just for going out and having an evening dinner with your date or family members. Detroit is the wild, wild west of the Midwest cities of today. Won't be surprised if locomotive engineer's soon get shot going through Detroit by rail.
The Detroit Politician's and Detroit die hard residents have been saying for decades now - that Detroit is coming back. HA HA HA, Detroit will NEVER be like it was at the turn of the 20th century, until the 1980's. Detroit will NEVER come back, and be the city it once was..Even Barry Gordy took Motown and got the Hell out of town, and moved out to California decades ago. Thanks for making this video and showing what Detroit used to be during my childhood, and the childhood and adulthood of Detroiter's during that Era of The Motor City. Thanks for the memories....
the truth hurts
Even wabtec trains
It's soo cool seeing these old cars when they were brand new.
It ALMOST makes me want to step into a time machine and never come back.
You do NOT want to be in Detroit in the 60s and 70s...
Miss having rail service from the suburbs into Detroit. Sure beat driving in a Michigan Winter!
Good video of America is rare today. This video stole my heart. I leave a part of my memory that will be hard to believe even to Americans.
I am an Indian. I never visited America and never will. I am not far away from my last days. Once upon a time I was a child with eyes hungry for every machine that caught my eyes. My father was an engineer. He had a huge collection of engineering books and also DIY magazines-all American origin. I was specially attracted to the two magazines-Popular Science and Popular Mechanics.
The magazines and machines taught me an other-worldly kind of science and engineering that is clearly visible in this video. My India never was a land for such engineering and it still is not and never will.
Via the two magazines I learnt that most American homes had DIY enthusiasts. It is that other-worldly spirit that made me ever-more hungry. I learnt science and engineering in a very different light (thanks to American DIY hobbyists and entrepreneurs) that today’s Nobel laureates have no inkling of.
It is a long story; I cut it short. People canvass that India is a land of spirituality and America is land of mechanistic luxury. Both are wrong; my India has nothing to boast of. In contrast America was bizarre.
I entered the path of yoga and solved the other-worldly light as my Soul. That gives you the link-the DIY clan in America was highly developed Souls; they applied it in science and engineering that explains why-(1) old America was saturated with divine aura but (2) modern America is saturated with sexy glamour.
I am not against sex but it is best left in the bedroom as Romeo and Juliet romance. I learnt a lot from America from the opposite hemisphere via the books. If the Americans really look into their history they will unearth Fairy Tale in every home came true. It was epitomized by the Statue of Liberty. Back then the term American Dream had a real-life meaning. That other-worldly America does not have any trace today. The phrase American Dream invokes anger in Americans and the Statue of Liberty smiles no more. I never expected such a tragic sunset to America that I respected almost to divine status.
Amitava Manna I too am Indian but live in the Detroit suburbs. It’s nice to know you guys like to learn about this place. Our area (novi) has a very large Indian community, particularly maharashtrian. Unfortunately, we can all agree we wish we were across the border in Canada, and America wasn’t as hyped up as Indian media made it look. Canada has a much better looked-after Indian community, with many eastern folks involved in local politics. If you ever want to come to North America, Toronto is the go-to City.
@@notcarrotnose258 Mississauga and Brampton have huge indian populations. I have family in Ajax, Ontario, close to Pickering. Surrey, British Columbia, has a huge indian population also. In America, Chicago, Dallas, New Jersey, Boston, etc, have big indian populations.
If you change your mind, you should see Kansas City, we still have that dream lingering on in the beautiful stations and large industries
Thank you for info on what passenger trains companies ran through during thia time.. I was a passenger in Detroit in the 60a as a young child , I couldn't remember which passenger companies ran through there. I remember the dining cars and sleepers going to Chicago, great memories! Thank you
That's my childhood. I was born and raised in Detroit when these images were new. I saw Detroit crumble into the gutter it is today. As nostalgic as these images are, it's also depressing. I can't go home again.
+David Smith I feel the same way and yet I'm from Florida and only 20 years old. I think its terrible and disgusting what happen to that city. I bet it was real nice and so much better when you were growing up there in your day than it is now. It just boggles my mind of how such a big and prosperous city has fallen so badly. I honestly hope some good will come for the entire area yet I do realize that Detroit will never be the same again.
Michigan Central Station was THE STATION. Now, after twenty years of decay, the billionaire who owns it (Along with the Ambassador Bridge) got a sweetheart deal to renovate it. I just hope he doesn't screw it up.
+AMCNorthstar 93 Detroit was a livable city. Two major department stores downtown with dozens of specialty stores. No big stores downtown anymore, but you see what are called pop-up stores and bars and restaurants. But it'll never be the same.
David Smith I hope he doesn't screw it up either. That's one of my favorite buildings there. What were the two department stores that you went to?? I know of Hudson's but not sure what the second one is. I have read a lot about the Hudson Department store and I think that was a huge loss!!! What a neat store to go into with so many departments and so many floors. All in one building. I wish it was still there. That one was a big mistake.
Gone also are the days of big, grand railroad stations and big department stores, except for Macy's in New York and what used to be Marshall Field's in Chicago.
I wish I could take a train back to the mid 60s. See the working-class Detroit I lived in before the riots and just live in it again....at least for a little while.
I'm from St.louis and I wish I could go back in time and see when it was a great city
I remember as a kid back then, going to the old main train station with my family. Those big diesel engines scared me. They were so massive and those cabs with the windows and running lights looked like they had faces. They definitely had character, but ...they were sure were intimidating.
+David Smith Did you ever go to the Michigan Central Station??? That is one of my favorite building s in Detroit.
+AMCNorthstar 93 I loved Michigan Central Station. Those big, fancy chandeliers hanging from that fifty foot barrel - vault lobby ceiling. The ornate tiles and marble. It was a big, dramatic space, and I was overcome by the scope of it every time I entered that building. At least now, Detroit ( courtesy of a few billionaires) is starting to invest in renovating some of it's historic buildings.
David Smith I really hope that it can be a functioning train station again one day. And having a hotel on the upper floors and other businesses inside would be great. Im really happy to see that the owner is putting in all new windows and a new roof on the station before the end of the year. It would really have been more miserable if that station had been destroyed! I feel now that there is going to be more traction now with the addition of the windows and roof.
David Smith I wish somebody would invest in restoring the Lee Plaza Hotel over on Grand Blvd. in New Center. Have you ever been in that hotel? I love the architecture of that hotel very much.
+AMCNorthstar 93 That's the plan, according to the media.
I love seeing old footage of southeast Michigan.
Detroit and trains wow !!!!! BRAVO !
An 80 yr old railfan in St Paul MN...the green frog crew, Emery gulash crew have best footage available,the narration,music, POV the 🥶ist,i have 25 of tapes, CDs,purchased in 1990s...👍👍☑️
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Heart-tugging pleasant memories. I'm glad that I can see them again.
David Smith I was truly born in a wrong era (2000-2010s)
What an era it was. So saddening that today Detroit is in such decay.
Nowadays, an alternate title to a video about trains in Detroit could be "Trainz in da hood"...
Lol
sounds like a rap group
Lol
@Khalil Bishop bot
I love Detroit Passenger Trains!
Amazing historical footage. Thanks for posting this.
“Today all of them are fallen flags” shows CN and Canadian Pacific logos, two of the largest North American railroads still in operation, although only in freight operations since the late 1970’s
My Dad and 2 sisters worked for GTW / CN....All these videos bring back some awesome memories for me!! I have a replica of a GTW train sitting on my T.V.
Simply amazing!
I remember riding "C&O" to Plymouth and Wayne from Lansing, MI durring this time.
I really miss the Grand Trunk Western, my father was a long time engineer for the GT back in Chicago for many years. So sad the CN decided to shut them down.
THANK YOU FOR DETAIL VIDEO
Even if you are not from the USA (like I am) you start to ask yourself what happened to USA?
USA had on the finest railroads, USA had an auto industry that was inspiration to the world (Europeanens copied the design and even the engines of some cars), and now you import rail vehicles and a lot of cars.
I never set foot in USA , but it makes me sad to see cities ruined by crime, "new urbanism" and the suburbanization. I like the old images with beatiful cities, urban electric transporation in them (streetcar, trolleybuses), nice looking cars, well dressed people (trough all that I'm not well dressed), nice small stores, USA made home use electronics and all kind of stuff. I'm aware that there where bad things, like discrimation, slums, conformism, but why in the world you need to destroy what is good? Destroy what is bad.
Amen to all that you say here!!
@zeeteavathepipe3184 We have been systematically destroyed from within.
This was a Great video showing what Michigan and Detroit use to be like. Great History!!!!
I'd love to have that illustration showing downtown Detroit and the Ambassador Bridge as seen looking north with the title -Passenger Trains. I'd put it up on my wall and reminisce.
+David Smith Actually, that illustration is entitled - Detroit Passenger.
David Smith Oh me too. That would be a nice wall mural or painting to have showing how nice Detroit was at one time.
I love that train video send me that long video
Wow! The quality of the video is impressive. Neat seeing Detroit during the days before the urban decay became so dominant. Cool seeing the wide variety of very colorful passenger cars. Even though this was the era of downturn for passenger trains, America's passenger rail network was much larger and speedier than what we have today. Thanks for uploading this :-)
MEMORY OF DETROIT TRAINS: I had my wallet stolen in the Detroit railroad station.
The majestic Michigan Central was my entrance to the "Promised Land" on 1954. I was only 9 years old but remember it as clearly as yesterday.
Great video and awesome shots!
When cars were big and gasoline was cheap...and Detroit was a fairly comfortable city to live in. My dad had a 57 Dodge convertible then. I would love to have that car now. He bought brand new in 57 and kept it for 10 years.
+David Smith It would be nice if you still had that car!!! My dad and I love all the big cars from this era too. We have a couple big Cadillac's that we enjoy ourselves. When cars were big, quality built, gas was very cheap, and most important Made in Detroit!!!!!!
+AMCNorthstar 93 57 Dodges are rare...few and far between. Good luck trying to find one.You can find plenty of 57 Chevies, though.
I guess they made more Chevies than Dodges that year.
+AMCNorthstar 93 57 Dodges are rare...few and far between. Good luck trying to find one.You can find plenty of 57 Chevies, though.
I guess they made more Chevies than Dodges that year.
David Smith Yes there are plenty of 57 Chevy's out there. And most of them are new bodies with all new parts. I personally like some of the other cars since I sometimes feel like the 57 chevy is over popular and over done. Cars like your dad's 57 Dodge is more valuable to me and more unique without a doubt. The 50's and 60's Chrysler's are my favorite era of the Chrysler brand. Right now we only have Cadillac's (61, 69, 84, 85, 05), two 91 Bonneville SSE's, and 03 Dodge Ram dually. I support all American made cars and trucks. No foreign cars allowed. American cars come first for me.
I wish I had that car. I wear vintage suits with a fedora every day.
Love your channel! Especially the clips of historical trains!
Great footage, and informative narrative, too. Love it. How could anyone give this a thumbs down?
This looks like a great program to watch. I am surprised that Detroit was still served by passenger trains in the sixties and seventies. I always thought the last train to Detroit came in the mid to late fifties. But, I guess I was wrong. Great video, I hope to add this to my collection.
I remember back in the late 1960's and 1970 when the Chesapeake & Ohio Rwy ran a train into Detroit via Columbus and Ashland from Washington, D.C., C&O Nos 1&2 "The George Washington". The Baltimore and Ohio ran 2 trains into there also, from Baltimore/Washington, "The Capitol Limited" and "The Diplomat". I was just a kid, but remember riding them and they were pretty damn nice passenger trains, the "George Washington" and the "Capitol" were equipped with the whole boat, Sleeping Cars, full-size Dining Car(s), lounge-bar car and reclining seat Coaches! (The Capitol even had a couple dome cars). Sweet.
Rusty Shackleford
Absolutely miss the C&O. Such classy style of trains and the passengers were treated with respect. Amtrak contributed to the demise of good customer service on passenger train travel.
My maternal grandfather worked for Chesapeake and Ohio Railways out of Detroit in the 1960’s.
Trains are my thing!
Thank you for this suburb upload.
Now this. This is railroading.
Both are S3Ls I think. They sound great.
It's, amazing! I love more the railroad of trains. That was great!
One of the sick things about Detroit was that for years since the 70s, the local media kept calling Detroit -a comeback city. I lived there then. This alleged comeback is only starting to realize itself now, due to those billionaires buying blocks of downtown for next to nothing, simply because nobody else wants to do it.
Anyway, the local media has been playing the role of chamber of commerce, promoting Detroit since the 70s, and there was nothing downtown back then. I always thought - how could you have a comeback city when you've lost more than half your population from the original 2 million people and your downtown no longer has a major shopping district.? Sad.
I live there also and I dont think that its that nobody wanted to buy the properties as much as the people who live there dont really make enough to buy anything large scale, its a larger scale plan by the multi millionaires and billionaires to control the property markets. Detroit is mostly blue collar employment the metropolitan employees make more than actual Detroiters and less taxes to pay for everyday living thus making way for the great gentrified influx of hipsters and "Detroiters".
Rocio Blanco wow
well making it into a tourist destination isnt bad
I like the song at the beginning
Excellent video !!!
Awesome video!!! Thanks for sharing!
WOW! Great videos!
The narration was done by Peter Youngblood, a local and Professional Rail-fan in Georgia.
Green Frog Prod.
Beautiful times
Detroit's railroads will live again
wow all that old mixed railroad equipment then later in 1971 used by amtrak
wish I had that sweet 66 Impala @ 2:54 !!
I was sorry I could not get here
"...The disappearing railway blues..."- Arlo Guthrie
so great to see
Amazing! I love your videos!
Very nice!
CN and CP are still both MAJOR Railroads
Wayne tower no longer exists, but surprisingly Delray does. Most rail traffic non existing now along the river. Update: It appears that Delray has closed up. Tower gone dark for good.
Why Did Wayne Tower get torn down?
No longer needed. Technology advances ever thing including railroad.
Yes. Don't go there alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring a Cell phone, Watch your back because the area is slum. You'd be much safer viewing the Intermodel terminal east(I think) My friend & I weren't in Delray 30 minutes when a man approached asking money for food(Liquid lunch likely). We gave him $5.00 just to get rid of him. He informed us that he just got out of the pen for killing 3 people! He talked non stop & I had to tell him not to talk while I was filming. He walked away. Sigh of relief to us!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah kinda slum area suppose to be developed for the new bridge for Canada . Only time i see delray tower is heading s.b. on 75 but on hold because of the rebuilding of that stretch over the rouge bridge.
Johnie Ceee--By any wild, ridiculous chance is the 007 Lounge still in Delray? I remember when "The In Crowd" was on the radio we used to say they prolly hung out at the 007, with windows painted black.
US railroads in the 1960s and 1970s: We suffer dreadfully and no one cares.
Thank goodness that’s not the case today, thanks to getting rid of regulations.
Love thecE F units
2:57 best part.
I know that you guys dub in some audio because audio filming was sort of scarce but you could have done a better job around 3:08. That's a Nathan M3 sound you put on a locomotive that has a Leslie A200 mounted on it.
Thanks, we do appreciate the comments. We always strive to offer a "realistic" sound track for our non sound films, but mainly we do sound tracks for a better viewing experience, we have never said we have perfectly accurate sound, just synced sound to give a realistic feel to the old Films.
I like that horn.
3:01-3:10 worth every moment.
3:01
Wow what a different era. Sad to see Detroit in its state today, particularly with the recent bankruptcy filing.
5:17-5:20, are these F7 locomotives? They look truly majestic.
Those are E-units, like E7s, E8s, or E9s. They have the same cab design as F-units. The difference between an F-unit and E-unit is that F-Units are shorter, with four axle trucks. E-units have six-axle trucks.
Those same trains 🚊 are still on the same old tracks today! Lol.
Frog is the best! HD!
The sounds in the footages are original or added digitaly?
The Railroad Sound FX you hear are added in by us at Green Frog Productions. We have an extensive RR sound library of audio recordings going back into the early 50s--much of it from Emery Gulash and some friends of his.
Does anybody have any film or video of the SEMTA trains that ran from Pontiac to Detroit from the 1970's til 1983? I'd sure like to see it if it's around.
is that viaduct ramp still used today?
Follow the Flag...
Ironic that Detroit was the City that killed Passenger Rail Market
C&O For the Win!
What is that intro song I NEED TO KNOW ITS SO CATCHY.
+Nick Hanley. LOL!
Song was big band swing from a Hollywood Studio big band- The Bentley- very catchy tune!
K Bron link?
K Bron any idea where I can find it?
one day replicas of these grand locos and cars will take back the tracks
Have you considered producing a vedio(DVD) of Delray Junction in Detroit,Michigan?Dearborn street and I-75 is a excellent location by the CSX tower.Trains by CSX,NS,CP Rail,CN,GT,I used to railfan there,within 5 miles is the CSX Dearborn Division and the NS Melvindale yard.
0:27 is that a white bird caught under the front of the train?
Looks like ends 66 1 yr before Black Day In July
whats the name of the song at the start of the video?
What Is the name of that song ? Please Tell Me Green frog Productions.
What's that swing tune at the beginning? It sounds so familiar!
i know its 16mm, but what kind of stock film exactly? i really like the look of it
Emery Gulash usually filmed using Kodachrome film stock and Bolex 16mm camera's!
Green Frog Prod.
+GreenFrogVideos Is Emery Gulash Still Alive Today?
No, Emery Gulash passed away years ago.
Green Frog Prod.
+GreenFrogVideos What Year Did He Die?
2006
thenorthern.deviantart.com/journal/Emery-Gulash-1918-2006-242638445
This was the good Detroit, and now it's all different, can't have s**t in Detroit, not even good railroads
At 4:42 is that an Edsel?
Which railroad is that at 0:33?
9751asd C&O
9751asd Or Chesepeke and Ohio
Is that Dwayne X. Riley on the narration?
Beautyful
DT&I?
Is it okay if I use the train horn at 2:57 for a video?
Yes, you have our permission to use the horn one time on your mentioned video, please give credit to Green Frog Productions, Ltd - www.greenfrog.com
@@GreenFrogVideos ok thank you
l want to get this DVD.
The GT used to run commuter service from Rochester/Pontiac into Downtown Detroit on a daily basis, then it was taken over by SEMTA in the late 70's..it used to run thru Royal Oak and parallel I-75 on its way downtown...at the end, you would debark at the RenCen property...
What is the circular structure seen in the background at 4:43 ?
I do not know. However, they were on the site of a recycleing plant.
Just a guess, but they look very similar to the frames of holding tanks for gas created from coal. Before natural gas was piped in from different regions most cities had a gas works to create gas used for heating and cooking and even lighting. These operated from the late 1800's to as late as the 1950's and 60's. Those frames look like they could be the abandoned remains of a gas works. The date of this video would be just about right for that. abandoned but not tore down yet.
where is this? 0:37
Where was Fort St Union Station and that viaduct i was trying to find any trace on google maps and by following several large rail lines anyone know ??
The building you see in the background at 2:38 is the U.S. Post Office building, which still stands today between Jefferson, Fort, 8th, and 10th. Based on the placement of the taller (lighter) tower, this shot looks to be taken between Jefferson and the river. None of this is there anymore--but two block away (towards the Ambassador Bridge) beyond Rosa Parks Blvd. you'll see where the tracks start today. The "Fort Street Union Depot" bridge looks like it might be passing over Cabacier St--note how it's divided, even today, with the Jefferson right lane being a "right turn only" lane (which ends shortly after as Jefferson goes from 3 to 2 lanes).
Follow the tracks off the right side of the video and it looks like they pass through what is now the Joe Louis Arena garage and the grove of trees surrounded by Jefferson, Cabacier, and 6th.
The Union Depot was at the SW corner of Fort and 3rd. It closed in the very early 70s. You'll find nothing on Google Maps, except where the rail line now ends at Jefferson and 12th St (Rosa Parks Blvd). The concrete walls of the earthen ramp can be seen on Street View on Jefferson, south of Rosa Parks.
@@johnsterbenz6400 You are correct.
Class 221 Voyager wins. Go Virgin trains!
RIP unhomogenized trains.
The commentator made a number of mistakes, most notably about the C&O.
tell the people why they went out of business.
Outdated rust bucket's must be PRESERVED AND RUN AGAIN
Muhammad Fadhiil Lol.
0:17
Detroit is no more
Shut up at least Detroit is better than Cleveland
"Detroit is no more"? Says who? I live here, and the last time I checked, it is still standing...
qwandiddy
That would be wrong.
Detroit and Flint are both higher than Cleveland.
Believe me...... Not saying i would go there but its fact..........
Ronald Mackall
Im pretty sure thats not what they meant.
The Detroit that we remember is a shell of itself.
@@soxfunny98 Where do you live now? Have you been in the city core lately? I live in Brush Park in a neighborhood that was deserted just 10 years ago. Today there are 1000+ new housing units built and 2500 more under construction within 3 miles of my condo.
C&O and B&O plus the GT: Grand Funk Railroad. Now nothing left but CBSBNs (Crack Be Smokin Be N-----s)