not as hot as your heater, but my greenhouse is little. i use old crockpots. i fill it with sand and water keep it on high. it works i love your videos. thanks for sharing
You need to do a test on the base and the glass jar. The heat radiating back off of that dome on top of that metal lid will cause the metal lead to get very hot. Which could break the glass jar. This is an extreme fire hazard. You should not be using anything that could shatter due to heat
I always wanted to do a heater with platinum catalyst. Just like the old school pocket warmers but on a larger scale. Not sure if you remember the old zippo pocket warmers and how much heat they produced. Carbon fiber wick touching stainless steel mesh and catalyst in the mesh suspended just above the wick.
With temps plummeting recently, I have used a terra cotta candle heater with the same fan you're using to blow a little heat into the run of my chicken coop. I have a concrete pad and am using bricks to raise the terra cotta pot to allow for air to get to the candles. So far it works pretty well. I'm using 4 inch tall, 2 inch diameter candles (2 on the colder nights) in a metal can for heating the fan. I know that it won't be enough to keep the chickens toasty warm but I'm only trying to keep their combs and wattles from freezing. It is a fairly substantial terra cotta pot that the chickens cannot move and it does not contact anything flammable. I have seen people using Crisco in these heaters but wasn't sure about that in my use. What do you think about using your heater? I can't guarantee that the chickens couldn't touch it and, at 550+ degrees, the last thing i want is "fried" chicken!
I think if it had about 4 holes about 3/4 the way up it would generate more heat. If it were a little bigger and were even a thin cast iron and a little more space it would be fantastic.
Did i miss it? Is there a list of items thats needed. My friend has gone to North Carolina twice taking supplies to ppl living in sheds and tents in the cold. They are cold. She is going back in a few weeks and was looking for ways to heat their sheds and homes with no electricity
Have you tried the same experiment with cooking oil candles?. You can get 1 gallon of cooking oil for $10. That's much cheaper than propane, and they last much longer. Of course they won't burn as clean as propane does
The danger with these types of heaters is that they can cause the fuel to explode by heating the fuel to a flash point. I would like to see the fuel under the heating parts. Would you put that heating source in the oven? There is a video out there were someone had one of those in the background inside his RV while he was making a video and the whole thing caught fire. Keep in mind that the inside of the bell will be much hotter than the outside.
Do all types of these hesting sources need to have ventilating system or does it depend on the fuel you burn example canola oil, vs isopropyl alcohol, is it thay you need ventilation period or only il it would create fumes?
Everything that burns creates fumes that are potentially dangerous. Obviously some worse than others. The oils are better than alcohols or gas. Oils tend to emit carbon soot that collects in the dome of such a heater rather than noxious gases. The only thing that burns emission free is hydrogen gas when burn temperature is kept to a minimum. Sorry there is actually an unavoidable emission........ water!
I'll bet if you added a Thorium based mesh mantle over the flame, you'd get a ton more heat. What would be great, is to find a Thorium metal "thing", that could be heated to the 200 plus degrees, to get the Thorium energy (atomic reaction) going.
The following, proves that Thorium coated lantern mantels (if you can still get them) get some energy from atomic reactions (to increase brightness). You can't get "daughter elements", unless atomic reactions (versus chemical reactions), are taking place. That could mean more energy, for heating, in a device similar to what is pictured. """Health Phys . 1984 Apr;46(4):873-81. doi: 10.1097/00004032-198404000-00013. Radioactivity released from burning gas lantern mantles J W Luetzelschwab, S W Googins PMID: 6706595 DOI: 10.1097/00004032-198404000-00013 Cite Abstract Gas lantern mantles contain thorium to produce incandescence when lantern fuel is burned on the mantle. Although only thorium is initially present on the mantle, the thorium daughters build up, some over a period of weeks and some over a period of years, and significant quantities of these daughters are present when the mantle is used. Some of these daughters are released when the lantern fuel is burned on the mantle. The amounts of radioactivity released during burning is studied by measuring the gamma radiation emitted by the daughters. Results of this study show that some of the radium (224Ra and 228Ra) and more than half the 212Pb and 212Bi is released during the first hour of a burn. The actual amounts release depend on the age of the mantle """
Yes, and much less likely to explode with far less toxic emissions! Oils tend to make solid particals (soot) as a byproduct rather than toxic fumes in these applications.
The smoke in the videos contains carbon monoxide produced by the inefficiency of the burning process. In this case the flame goes up into a chamber that has much less oxygen due to the heated air being trapped in side. This causes the incompletely burned alcohol to float back down and escape out of the bell shape as smoke.
this might be a over working the solution. having read some of the comments on the glass overheating & breaking. first thought a pyrex jar of some kind. then the thought came of tiki torch cans, these would need to be cut down to size. built a terra cotta heater a few yrs ago. can't handle having candles burn in the house, asthma the paraffin sets it off. now i do alcohol stoves for camping. that dosen't set me off, so your idea of the alcohol as fuel might work for me.
we use a mr heater in our large greenhouse. on low a tank last about 2 days straight thru for when it's really cold. we have one that doesn't burn as hot - it lasts most of a week on low - Wish i could adjust a new one to burn like that one does! we use it for warmer cold temps.
Colson firepit says, "Remember that any flame can produce carbon monoxide. Although alcohol is one of the safest fuels to burn indoors, proper ventilation is required to ensure adequate oxygen is available for complete combustion to prevent carbon monoxide from building up." The smoke in the videos contains carbon monoxide produced by the inefficiency of the burning process. In this case the flame goes up into a chamber that has much less oxygen due to the heated air being trapped in side. This causes the incompletely burned alcohol to float back down and escape out of the bell shape as smoke.
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not as hot as your heater, but my greenhouse is little. i use old crockpots. i fill it with sand and water keep it on high. it works
i love your videos. thanks for sharing
Is there any point in the water?
Great idea!
@@ZenGardenOasis. Is it ? What's it powered by ? How many watts does it draw ?
@@leeinwis
Wattage is printed on the underside of the crock pot.
From what I understand is that it is better to use vegetable oil for that. It's less of a fire hazard.
That true much safer
I wonder how Crisco candles do with it? A mason jar Crisco candle lasts a full week.
You need to do a test on the base and the glass jar. The heat radiating back off of that dome on top of that metal lid will cause the metal lead to get very hot. Which could break the glass jar. This is an extreme fire hazard. You should not be using anything that could shatter due to heat
Tested in excess of 24 hours.
Mason jars work best. They are designed to withstand the heat of boiling water when canning foods.
@@CarolHewett-ug2cw those jars were obviously from a canned food product.
glass alcohol burners are a common tool and tried and tested.
Will explode and cause a great fire..
I always wanted to do a heater with platinum catalyst. Just like the old school pocket warmers but on a larger scale. Not sure if you remember the old zippo pocket warmers and how much heat they produced. Carbon fiber wick touching stainless steel mesh and catalyst in the mesh suspended just above the wick.
Couldn’t live without it when winter fishing in the uk😉
the zippo heaters are still on the market.
With temps plummeting recently, I have used a terra cotta candle heater with the same fan you're using to blow a little heat into the run of my chicken coop. I have a concrete pad and am using bricks to raise the terra cotta pot to allow for air to get to the candles. So far it works pretty well. I'm using 4 inch tall, 2 inch diameter candles (2 on the colder nights) in a metal can for heating the fan. I know that it won't be enough to keep the chickens toasty warm but I'm only trying to keep their combs and wattles from freezing. It is a fairly substantial terra cotta pot that the chickens cannot move and it does not contact anything flammable. I have seen people using Crisco in these heaters but wasn't sure about that in my use. What do you think about using your heater? I can't guarantee that the chickens couldn't touch it and, at 550+ degrees, the last thing i want is "fried" chicken!
You could roll up some chicken wire around the units as a barrier to keep the chickens from frying themselves....but who doesn't like fried chicken?
Sounds great
They really don't bother it. I think they know it is helping them!@@SiCaRiI_DaGgEr
We live in Alaska and have 12 chickens never had to heat our coop
Chantecler poultry are the best in cold climates.@calvinjohnson7806
I saw a lady drill from the inside of the lid that way the "spikes"are on the top to help keep the wick in place
Magical BTUs again
I think if it had about 4 holes about 3/4 the way up it would generate more heat. If it were a little bigger and were even a thin cast iron and a little more space it would be fantastic.
Did i miss it? Is there a list of items thats needed. My friend has gone to North Carolina twice taking supplies to ppl living in sheds and tents in the cold. They are cold. She is going back in a few weeks and was looking for ways to heat their sheds and homes with no electricity
8hr Tea candles would work great with that unit, think I'll grab 1 or 2 which are more durable than my clay pot method.
I use the Terra cotta pots, and I make 3" X 4" beeswax candles. 20 years and I didn't have to buy anything. Greenhouse stays warm
I love it thank you for sharing ❤
Very helpful, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Have you tried the same experiment with cooking oil candles?. You can get 1 gallon of cooking oil for $10. That's much cheaper than propane, and they last much longer.
Of course they won't burn as clean as propane does
Great idea
WRONG! Propane makes some of the most deadly fumes! The oil is FAR better, it makes soot not so much gaseous production.
Alcohol burning heaters are generally more expensive to operate than a space heater on low.
True…if your greenhouse has electricity
True, but if you have no electricity, a space heater won’t work.
Is this enough to heat the 10 x 12/ greenhouse above 50 degrees in winter in NJ?
You may need multiple
The danger with these types of heaters is that they can cause the fuel to explode by heating the fuel to a flash point. I would like to see the fuel under the heating parts. Would you put that heating source in the oven? There is a video out there were someone had one of those in the background inside his RV while he was making a video and the whole thing caught fire. Keep in mind that the inside of the bell will be much hotter than the outside.
Inlet air will cool the fuel.
Also, heat rises.
Glass fibre rope for stove seals is cheaper than carbon felt and less hassle.
Do all types of these hesting sources need to have ventilating system or does it depend on the fuel you burn example canola oil, vs isopropyl alcohol, is it thay you need ventilation period or only il it would create fumes?
Yes somthing that’s 100% pure burns cleaner…cheers
Everything that burns creates fumes that are potentially dangerous. Obviously some worse than others. The oils are better than alcohols or gas.
Oils tend to emit carbon soot that collects in the dome of such a heater rather than noxious gases. The only thing that burns emission free is hydrogen gas when burn temperature is kept to a minimum.
Sorry there is actually an unavoidable emission........ water!
Add a flat washer or two on the base nuts to stabilize it more.
Is there a link for the kit I may be overlooking it
TEMU sell them. It's called a Tea light candle oven.
You could also use fiber glass oil candle wick.
Interesting thought.
how hot with one jar and how long?
I'll bet if you added a Thorium based mesh mantle over the flame, you'd get a ton more heat. What would be great, is to find a Thorium metal "thing", that could be heated to the 200 plus degrees, to get the Thorium energy (atomic reaction) going.
The following, proves that Thorium coated lantern mantels (if you can still get them) get some energy from atomic reactions (to increase brightness). You can't get "daughter elements", unless atomic reactions (versus chemical reactions), are taking place. That could mean more energy, for heating, in a device similar to what is pictured.
"""Health Phys
. 1984 Apr;46(4):873-81.
doi: 10.1097/00004032-198404000-00013.
Radioactivity released from burning gas lantern mantles
J W Luetzelschwab, S W Googins
PMID: 6706595 DOI: 10.1097/00004032-198404000-00013
Cite
Abstract
Gas lantern mantles contain thorium to produce incandescence when lantern fuel is burned on the mantle. Although only thorium is initially present on the mantle, the thorium daughters build up, some over a period of weeks and some over a period of years, and significant quantities of these daughters are present when the mantle is used. Some of these daughters are released when the lantern fuel is burned on the mantle. The amounts of radioactivity released during burning is studied by measuring the gamma radiation emitted by the daughters. Results of this study show that some of the radium (224Ra and 228Ra) and more than half the 212Pb and 212Bi is released during the first hour of a burn. The actual amounts release depend on the age of the mantle
"""
How long before the alcohol runs out on both, what’s the duration?
5-6 hours
Would it burn longer with vegetable oil?
Yes, and much less likely to explode with far less toxic emissions! Oils tend to make solid particals (soot) as a byproduct rather than toxic fumes in these applications.
Thank you , Sir
How long can work?
Why has smoke.
It was alcohol or kerosene.?
The smoke in the videos contains carbon monoxide produced by the inefficiency of the burning process. In this case the flame goes up into a chamber that has much less oxygen due to the heated air being trapped in side. This causes the incompletely burned alcohol to float back down and escape out of the bell shape as smoke.
this might be a over working the solution. having read some of the comments on the glass overheating & breaking. first thought a pyrex jar of some kind. then the thought came of tiki torch cans, these would need to be cut down to size. built a terra cotta heater a few yrs ago. can't handle having candles burn in the house, asthma the paraffin sets it off. now i do alcohol stoves for camping. that dosen't set me off, so your idea of the alcohol as fuel might work for me.
Will it make a small room warmer?.or do you have to stay close to it to stay warm
It’s capable of raising the temp in a small area.
Are you using rubbing alcohol or liquor like Rum?
What is the cost difference between this and a milkhouse electric heater? Or even a mister buddy heater?
we use a mr heater in our large greenhouse. on low a tank last about 2 days straight thru for when it's really cold.
we have one that doesn't burn as hot - it lasts most of a week on low - Wish i could adjust a new one to burn like that one does! we use it for warmer cold temps.
Electricity
@@ZenGardenOasis. right. But 95% alcohol is not cheap. We pay 11 cents/kwhr , us.
What is the metal housing called? Did you buy each peace?
It’s sold as a set on Amazon. Link in description.
Hey your scissors is upside down.🥴
Cool invention! Thank you!
You’re welcome 😊
How much does it cost????
Yeah, but where I get one?
TEMU tea light oven.
how do ibuy this kit/?
Amazon had a few in stock. I put a link in the video description. Cheers
the carbon felt you suggest catches fire during online video test
Where did you by this heater ?
Check the link in description if still available. Cheers
compost works as a heat source...
Laws of physics: the cover will not increase the heat output comparing to barely burning flame.
I would have to be simple, if you camera angle is anything to go by . Half the time the action is off camera, so one has to guess what's happening
i can't get this carbon felt dome heater video to lead to amazon
Try Local hardware store.
Whats the 3 piece metal enclosure/done heater called ?
Its not in the links
I’ll check if my link isn’t broken.
Thin sheet metal. Very little mass. Inefficient
I see if I can make one
Good luck.
It would be better to put this in the ground around bricks a lot safer
Move that open bottle of slcohol away from the flame!
Get a step drill bit
Since when does alcohol require a carbon monoxide dictator ?
Consider a sand or salt Battery as well
If your fuel isn’t 100% it can exhaust toxic fumes
@@ZenGardenOasis. Ok , gotcha
How about using cooking oil ? No carbon ? Use terracotta pots instead of metal it's safer
Alcohol doesn't give off toxic gases, it only removes oxygen.
Colson firepit says, "Remember that any flame can produce carbon monoxide. Although alcohol is one of the safest fuels to burn indoors, proper ventilation is required to ensure adequate oxygen is available for complete combustion to prevent carbon monoxide from building up." The smoke in the videos contains carbon monoxide produced by the inefficiency of the burning process. In this case the flame goes up into a chamber that has much less oxygen due to the heated air being trapped in side. This causes the incompletely burned alcohol to float back down and escape out of the bell shape as smoke.
lol..anyone who leaves this burning is a fool.
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КГАМ! Какой это "грин хаус???"""
Закон термодинамики ни кто не отменял!
На текущее время - самый эффективный обогрев !!! на основе электричества !!! это тепловые насосы!
Can't see what you're doing.
Smokes like anything.. can’t be safe.
I think that's the tooling oils burning off
Dude those scissors are for cutting chicken! And for the love of god, don’t take your wife’s fabric scissors.😮
"dome heater"
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Wishfull thinking, this things are just useless for heating anything bigger as the doggies house
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