It's a shame these are so costly, it's probably the coolest inline available. There's also the potential to use the same action for an inline pistol or shotgun.
@@eddieorf YEP.. hunt the pawn shops.. local shop that doesn't sell much black powder stuff had one at 325.. looked at it.. said i liked it.... but....fiddled with it like I wanted it.. then handed it back to him... guy took it.. looked info up.. said hey.. how about 200 out the door.. now it's in my gun cabinet. It happens.. right place right time.. slow day = DEAL!
Ola amigos, que excelente combinación de rolling block y muzzleloading, además de un agrupamiento muy bueno tanto en 50 como en 100 metros, excelente también la adaptación para la mira telescópica, gran esmero han puesto en la calidad y tradiciones, los felicito, me ha gustado mucho, gracias
Very interesting. I recall some later 19th century target shooters who would muzzle load their Remington rolling blocks. I think I read it in Ned Roberts book on caplock rifles. If I HAD to use an inline, I might well get this gun. But my Lyman Great Plains rifle is far more traditional and shoots so well!
This rifle confuses me. Why style it as a rolling block if its a muzzle loader? And why throw a picatinny and high viz ironsights on it if its meant to be like a 20th century rifle?
So people can use them for muzzleloading only seasons - some parts of the world (I think US only?) have weeks where you can apply to hunt (deer/big game) with a muzzleloader and no other style of rifle. Done so that people can have time to use their vintage, slow to load and harder to use guns. These guns are built to give people who want to use them to hunt but want all the accuracy of a modern weapon - sorta a gimmick so that they can hunt in a season that is normally off limits to those weapons, if that makes sense. I think it's a real shame.
you are correct. almost every state here in the US has an in line muzzleloading season (basically what this rifle is) and a separate flintlock season. usually a week or two of each, both being separate seasons of course.
209 shotgun primers are more reliable the lighter and faster bullets need a faster twist rate the higher grade steel breach plug allows the use of more powder the rolling block protects the primer better than a flintlock if the laws of My state allow Me to take a extra Deer because I use a special type of weapon Heck Yea I am going to go hunting with one
I understand, but it's not always about taking more deer - and at this point, you've defeated the point of them being special types of weapons by making the rifle so similar to a modern firearm.
I know how much you shoot and how many videos you have put out so I’m a little reluctant to ask,but all the advice I have ever received on the subject of bench rest shooting points out that the front rest should be placed under the wood fore end of the rifle for proper accuracy. Keep making your videos I enjoy all of them.
Nice presentation. I follow your channel, but when searching to convert a Rolling Block rifle to in-line percussion, your video came up. My Whitney Rolling Block .38 caliber center fire has had the barrel rifling pretty much shot out. Plus the firing pin is mushroomed over and the receiver main spring is broken and the trigger spring is in pieces. Stock needs to be rebuilt. I have built flintlock rifles and thinking about this conversation to the rolling block. Any thoughts from you on my rifle conversation would be much appreciated. Have a great day and take care. ~Steve
Very pretty, though I would prefer it as smokeless a cartridge gun with a chamber insert and ramrod for cap-lock muzzleloading, and a longer sight radius.
Are there many reproductions out there which take scope mounts? And can you get non-hunting bullets too? Or are they all SP / HP? Great video as always.
no, the breech block is modified to fit around the cap, and the barrel has a giant, threaded hole where the chamber should be on account of the breech plug. Here in the US, where there's a big market for inline ML rifles (this rifle was intended to be D.P.'s entry into that market, and it's a good one, IMO), but in order for it to be considered relic (aka: not regulated like a modern rifle), it must have been produced before 1898 (or a reproduction of something pre-1898), doesn't take commercially available fixed-ammo, and for it to be considered a ML (and exempt from having to go through an FFL or C&R licensee), it cannot be readily convertible to fire commercially available fixed ammunition. They did just enough to it to make it fit that last part.
Nice rifle I was thinking you were talking about a 209 primer it's still traditional One other thing is the caps are almost impossible to get now here in the USA do you sell something like a tapocap to make the precision cap's ? Tapocap out of business from what I'm hearing.
I would like a smooth boar in 12 gage please . One where adapters can screw into the breach for center fire cartages also. Then you will have a winner . I'll be waiting , thanks .
I have steered away from modern rifles and now prefer the interesting side of older rifles such as a parker hale .451 whitworth and a pedersoli 40-65 falling block. this rifle seems to be following some sort of fashion for both types but meets the needs on neither. Its ugly and it has no soul.
If they are so incline, a cartage rolling block has a place in the US market. I have no idea why someone has not jumped on that. There is a market for historical replicas as well as modern hunting rifles as the design allows for rather inexpensive manufacturing.
Have you ever shot a Hawkins rifle? I've got a .50 caplock Hawkins and it does not disappoint. Honestly, it's no wonder it was a favorite among American mountain men and frontiersmen. Try it, if you get the chance.
they make it as a cartridge gun as well lol. Since the largest market for inline ML guns is in the US, D.P. decided to make their inline rifle meet US regulations. In the US, for a firearm to be regulated as a "primitive" arm (therefore not subject to 90% of the rules), it must use a separate primer, powder, and projectile; the powder and bullet is loaded from the muzzle; and it cannot be easily converted to fire commercially available cartridges (D.P. modified the design just enough to meet that). This rifle is intended for ML hunters who like the older guns, but still want a modern inline (I wouldn't be surprised if it couldn't be used with smokeless, I would guess they are using the same barrels as their cartridge guns)
Bardzo fajny sztucer ale niestety nie ma go na stronie Pedersoli. A szkoda. Sam wykręcany korek lufy już bardzo ułatwia życie choćby nawet w razie niewypału a przy czyszczeniu to sprawa nieoceniona. W polsce pewnie go nigdy nie będzie.
I for one don't like any in line muzzle loader period! This looks good with it's wooden stock and "rolling block receiver " however still takes away the traditional idea of muzzle loaders. I have seen an video of someone turning a H&R shotgun to a muzzle loader. A shotgun shell with the hull cut away only having it's primer was closed into the gun breech. The powder and packed ball was loaded afterwards. The concept beyond me!
Damn this rifle makes me want to vomit. Picatinny rail on a psuedo-rolling block? Yeah lets just put a red dot on the thing and a laser as well. What's the point of making a rifle look like an antique if you're going to give it modern accoutrements? It's about as confused as a pump action flintlock.
brainplay it's not for the purist. It's for the older hunter with eyesight that's starting to go who wants a classic style rifle. The rail comes off if it's too visually distracting.
So why would you buy this gun then and not any other muzzleloader? This is no conversion, its a muzzleloader only. And for some reason a roling block muzzleloader, which makes no sense really...
+Peter August If you think this is an ugly rifle, then you have SERIOUS issues. Seek professional help. The only ugly part is the ramrod under the barrel, but that is necessary with a muzzleloader. And another unmentioned benefit of this rifle (for those of us in the U.S.,) is that it is not legally considered a firearm. Therefore, it can be shipped directly to your home via UPS, etc., with no need to get your local gun store involved.
+bones020694 If you think this is an ugly gun, then you have SERIOUS issues. I suggest you seek professional help. The only thing ugly about it is the ramrod, but there's nothing that can be done about that.
I suppose you buy all your meat prepackaged at the store? I love my venison and the only way to get it is to hunt for it. The video was about a hunting rifle. There are two uses for any rifle. Feed yourself or protect yourself.
@@tlloyd9325 I don't eat meat, i like to live healthy and also meat eating is irrelevant. Causes diseases like cardiovascular diseases and plenty of heath problems. Also there are plenty more uses for a rifle. Range shooting, self protection, competition shooting and just shooting for fun or just collecting them. Like normal people u know, u don't have to kill beings to have a great time or to live a full and healthy life :)
A nice looking rifle in between traditional and modern.
It's for hunting muzzleloader seasons and it doesn't require saboted bullets. I love the looks
great video as always your camera work has really improved
It's a shame these are so costly, it's probably the coolest inline available. There's also the potential to use the same action for an inline pistol or shotgun.
Picked mine up for 300
@@eddieorf YEP.. hunt the pawn shops.. local shop that doesn't sell much black powder stuff had one at 325.. looked at it.. said i liked it.... but....fiddled with it like I wanted it.. then handed it back to him... guy took it.. looked info up.. said hey.. how about 200 out the door.. now it's in my gun cabinet. It happens.. right place right time.. slow day = DEAL!
fine looking gun. I like the mix of old and new. But like you, I will stay with my side locks.
I am of the same school here, not a fan of the "new inline " smoke poles, but I can not argue their shooting capabilities.
4:25 That sheep was saying, "Nice shot!"
Ola amigos, que excelente combinación de rolling block y muzzleloading, además de un agrupamiento muy bueno tanto en 50 como en 100 metros, excelente también la adaptación para la mira telescópica, gran esmero han puesto en la calidad y tradiciones, los felicito, me ha gustado mucho, gracias
Fine alternative to modern rifle use in a vintage package...nice!
"it still looks like a historical rifle... from 10m" LOL
More like 100m. lol!! ;D
only tell tale is the ramrod.. so leave it of at the range!
Very interesting. I recall some later 19th century target shooters who would muzzle load their Remington rolling blocks. I think I read it in Ned Roberts book on caplock rifles. If I HAD to use an inline, I might well get this gun. But my Lyman Great Plains rifle is far more traditional and shoots so well!
Quite neat looking. I shoot and hunt with both types so it would feel quite at home in my safe ;)Thanks again for the review.
your videos are great
This rifle confuses me. Why style it as a rolling block if its a muzzle loader? And why throw a picatinny and high viz ironsights on it if its meant to be like a 20th century rifle?
So people can use them for muzzleloading only seasons - some parts of the world (I think US only?) have weeks where you can apply to hunt (deer/big game) with a muzzleloader and no other style of rifle. Done so that people can have time to use their vintage, slow to load and harder to use guns. These guns are built to give people who want to use them to hunt but want all the accuracy of a modern weapon - sorta a gimmick so that they can hunt in a season that is normally off limits to those weapons, if that makes sense. I think it's a real shame.
Sanjay Bhattacharya Yes, basically a way to get around hunting laws.
you are correct. almost every state here in the US has an in line muzzleloading season (basically what this rifle is) and a separate flintlock season. usually a week or two of each, both being separate seasons of course.
209 shotgun primers are more reliable the lighter and faster bullets need a faster twist rate the higher grade steel breach plug allows the use of more powder the rolling block protects the primer better than a flintlock
if the laws of My state allow Me to take a extra Deer because I use a special type of weapon Heck Yea I am going to go hunting with one
I understand, but it's not always about taking more deer - and at this point, you've defeated the point of them being special types of weapons by making the rifle so similar to a modern firearm.
I own the same rifle and with a 370 grain Maxi bullet I can 5 shot group at 100m of 1/2 inch.
I have one with full octagon barrel. It is a very cool rifle to take to the range and hunt with. I have taken several deer with mine.
have to add to the ole wish list.Awesome rifle.
I know how much you shoot and how many videos you have put out so I’m a little reluctant to ask,but all the advice I have ever received on the subject of bench rest shooting points out that the front rest should be placed under the wood fore end of the rifle for proper accuracy.
Keep making your videos I enjoy all of them.
Nice presentation. I follow your channel, but when searching to convert a Rolling Block rifle to in-line percussion, your video came up. My Whitney Rolling Block .38 caliber center fire has had the barrel rifling pretty much shot out. Plus the firing pin is mushroomed over and the receiver main spring is broken and the trigger spring is in pieces. Stock needs to be rebuilt. I have built flintlock rifles and thinking about this conversation to the rolling block. Any thoughts from you on my rifle conversation would be much appreciated. Have a great day and take care. ~Steve
Very pretty, though I would prefer it as smokeless a cartridge gun with a chamber insert and ramrod for cap-lock muzzleloading, and a longer sight radius.
thats a cool looking rifle but for inline hunting ill use my vortek striker fire it only takes 3 twists with your hand to remove the breech plug
When you're hunting any rifle is a good rifle if you can kill what you're after cleanly.
Are there many reproductions out there which take scope mounts?
And can you get non-hunting bullets too? Or are they all SP / HP?
Great video as always.
Beautiful!
How do I know that this is a „Magnum“ chamber? Any markings on the gun?
It doesn't hurt that it is good looking.
Good looking? I guess that 'eye of the beholder' is right. It's a rifle Jim, but not as we know it,
good vid. thank you for what you do i enjoy it
Where can I buy this rifle?
If the breech screw being removed it is become to a regular rolling block.
no, the breech block is modified to fit around the cap, and the barrel has a giant, threaded hole where the chamber should be on account of the breech plug. Here in the US, where there's a big market for inline ML rifles (this rifle was intended to be D.P.'s entry into that market, and it's a good one, IMO), but in order for it to be considered relic (aka: not regulated like a modern rifle), it must have been produced before 1898 (or a reproduction of something pre-1898), doesn't take commercially available fixed-ammo, and for it to be considered a ML (and exempt from having to go through an FFL or C&R licensee), it cannot be readily convertible to fire commercially available fixed ammunition. They did just enough to it to make it fit that last part.
I have one in .54 caliber. Where can I find a breech removal tool?
Not 54 cal , so is it legal to hunt with in your country ?
Nice rifle I was thinking you were talking about a 209 primer it's still traditional One other thing is the caps are almost impossible to get now here in the USA do you sell something like a tapocap to make the precision cap's ? Tapocap out of business from what I'm hearing.
Imagine if those modern muzzleloader were use in second gunpowder war, it's similar to 18th-19th century battle but more modern and tactical.
>muzzleloading Rolling Block
What is the bloody point ?
So do pedasolie make a 50 cal patch ball 1 in 66 twist sir???
I would like a smooth boar in 12 gage please . One where adapters can screw into the breach for center fire cartages also. Then you will have a winner . I'll be waiting , thanks .
Very interesting... Greetings from Poland.
I have steered away from modern rifles and now prefer the interesting side of older rifles such as a parker hale .451 whitworth and a pedersoli 40-65 falling block. this rifle seems to be following some sort of fashion for both types but meets the needs on neither. Its ugly and it has no soul.
If they are so incline, a cartage rolling block has a place in the US market. I have no idea why someone has not jumped on that. There is a market for historical replicas as well as modern hunting rifles as the design allows for rather inexpensive manufacturing.
+Jesse Sisolack Did you mean "cartridge" rolling block? If so, they sell plenty of those here in the U.S., and in a variety of calibers.
Great deer gun, or for when the zombies come.
You will get better groups if you rest the forearm on the rest and not the barrel.
Tetszetős puska, ilyen lesz a következő... értem a szöveget is, de miért nem lehet magyarul?
Have you ever shot a Hawkins rifle? I've got a .50 caplock Hawkins and it does not disappoint. Honestly, it's no wonder it was a favorite among American mountain men and frontiersmen. Try it, if you get the chance.
I want one
Surprised to see you resting the rifle on its barrel.
Nice for those of us who can't collect quality antiques, but the picariny rail? Maybe if your eyes are bad, but it looks ridiculous.
Why not just make this rifle as a traditional cartridge breech loader in 45-70 and 50-70 caliber??? I would buy that.
they make it as a cartridge gun as well lol. Since the largest market for inline ML guns is in the US, D.P. decided to make their inline rifle meet US regulations. In the US, for a firearm to be regulated as a "primitive" arm (therefore not subject to 90% of the rules), it must use a separate primer, powder, and projectile; the powder and bullet is loaded from the muzzle; and it cannot be easily converted to fire commercially available cartridges (D.P. modified the design just enough to meet that).
This rifle is intended for ML hunters who like the older guns, but still want a modern inline (I wouldn't be surprised if it couldn't be used with smokeless, I would guess they are using the same barrels as their cartridge guns)
Does this weapon requires a gun license in Europe?
yes
Yes and a bag over its head.
did he just said i can load up 150 grains of powder into it?
This is crazy , 32 euro for 20 sabot projectiles here in Poland.
Kolego ile ceniłbyś takiego rollingblocka z epoki w Polsce? Kaliber 12. Kolega pyta...
Good gun but the mix of modern optic - "rolling Blog" and muzzel load is strange for me 🤷🏼♂️
YOU PUT A RAIL ON IT?! ☹️
Dlaczego po angielsku?
CapandBall, is there an english version of your review? Sorry if I missed the link somewhere
+DirtyFrigginHarry This video IS in English.
Bardzo fajny sztucer ale niestety nie ma go na stronie Pedersoli. A szkoda. Sam wykręcany korek lufy już bardzo ułatwia życie choćby nawet w razie niewypału a przy czyszczeniu to sprawa nieoceniona. W polsce pewnie go nigdy nie będzie.
Why does this gun exist? Why make a fake rolling block?
Doesn't seem any more accurate than any other muzzle loader, given that it shoots saboted rifle bullets.
That's because they are almost ALL ACCURATE?? 1" at 100 meters with an OPEN SIGHT ??
fiquei apaixonado.
I for one don't like any in line muzzle loader period! This looks good with it's wooden stock and "rolling block receiver " however still takes away the traditional idea of muzzle loaders. I have seen an video of someone turning a H&R shotgun to a muzzle loader. A shotgun shell with the hull cut away only having it's primer was closed into the gun breech. The powder and packed ball was loaded afterwards. The concept beyond me!
No sir I don't like it. I'd rather just have a rolling block or a flintlock.
Damn this rifle makes me want to vomit. Picatinny rail on a psuedo-rolling block? Yeah lets just put a red dot on the thing and a laser as well. What's the point of making a rifle look like an antique if you're going to give it modern accoutrements? It's about as confused as a pump action flintlock.
brainplay it's not for the purist. It's for the older hunter with eyesight that's starting to go who wants a classic style rifle. The rail comes off if it's too visually distracting.
brainplay you’re such a pussy man. You need to get get over yourself
Duh, so you can put laminated wood stocks on and be a space cowboy.
Fiber optics, plastic sabot, copper projectile....yuck.
that is one ugly rifle.
I dont really get the purpose of it also. Why would you want a "rolling block" Muzzleloader?
maybe you want to shoot black powder but you lack the reloading equipment to make cartridges ????
So why would you buy this gun then and not any other muzzleloader?
This is no conversion, its a muzzleloader only. And for some reason a roling block muzzleloader, which makes no sense really...
in which country do you have this primitve weapon season?
America, there are certain times a year you can use black powder or primitive weapons for hunting. It also depends on state as well.
+Peter August If you think this is an ugly rifle, then you have SERIOUS issues. Seek professional help. The only ugly part is the ramrod under the barrel, but that is necessary with a muzzleloader. And another unmentioned benefit of this rifle (for those of us in the U.S.,) is that it is not legally considered a firearm. Therefore, it can be shipped directly to your home via UPS, etc., with no need to get your local gun store involved.
an abomination
very nice video, ugly gun
+bones020694 If you think this is an ugly gun, then you have SERIOUS issues. I suggest you seek professional help. The only thing ugly about it is the ramrod, but there's nothing that can be done about that.
...that is the dumbest contraption I've seen lately...
I dislike hunting. It is in my opinion an irrelevant "sport" without proper cause or benefits. Don't get mad at my opinion. It is just that.
I suppose you buy all your meat prepackaged at the store? I love my venison and the only way to get it is to hunt for it. The video was about a hunting rifle. There are two uses for any rifle. Feed yourself or protect yourself.
@@tlloyd9325 I don't eat meat, i like to live healthy and also meat eating is irrelevant. Causes diseases like cardiovascular diseases and plenty of heath problems.
Also there are plenty more uses for a rifle. Range shooting, self protection, competition shooting and just shooting for fun or just collecting them. Like normal people u know, u don't have to kill beings to have a great time or to live a full and healthy life :)