- If you like beam build set-up and don’t like grenade, I recommend Arcane Pistoleer and not modding the Augment altogether. - I *STRONGLY* recommend not skipping over the “IMPORTANT”-marked sections. - This is 100% a gimmick weapon. This video serves to show you how best to use its strengths and avoid its weaknesses. This is not a way to turn it into a meta weapon, because it cannot be one. - The point of this video is to make you aware of the issues on this weapon and either work around them, or take advantage of them, as Catabolyst is a *very* buggy weapon. - I do not currently have the critical damage equation for the grenade, however, the crit chance formula is as follows: Grenade Total %CC = (Innate%CC x (1 + Augment%) + (Innate%CC x mod%CC)) x (1 + Augment%) This can be rewritten as = Innate%CC x (1 + (mod%CC/Innate%CC) + Augment%) x (1 + Augment%) (mod%CC/Innate%CC) is also the CC value you see in your Arsenal sidebar. Grenade Crit Chance Table Link: imgur.com/a/Yc54B8x - Innate%CC on Catabolyst is generally 31%, but this calculation also applies to the partial reload throw, which has only 11% CC. *TIMESTAMPS* See me live at: www.twitch.tv/aznvasions NEW Gun CO Spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/GunCOv2 0:00 Intro & Contexts 0:28 Hidden Issues Exist 0:55 What is Catabolyst? 1:31 Catabolyst Bugs *IMPORTANT* 3:38 "Features" DE Added *IMPORTANT* 5:22 Synth Holster Reload Tech 6:03 How to Use Synth Holster Tech BUILDS 6:49 Builds Overview 7:05 Build 01 | Hybrid Beam/Grenade 7:57 Build 01 | Alternative Modding if PT Fixed 8:25 Build 02 | Grenade-Focused 9:06 Slowing Reload Time Tech 10:09 How To Use Build 2? 11:03 Nautilus Grouping Build 11:31 Conclusion
Yo I thought de was being stanky for the forced reload timer but after you showed the holster strat….let’s just say that “feature” got nullified by another, swows
Out of all UA-camrs dealing with WF, you are probably the boldest one when it comes to experimenting new mechanics. That is why I follow your videos, give you constant likes, and keep up with the latest news on how to always keep my arsenal up to date with the latest changes. Keep up the good work, Mr. Scientist. Much respect.
Thank you for clarifying some of the mechanics for this weapon... Building it did not feel straightforward and I couldn't figure out why the grenade wasn't landing sometimes (too long after reload).
@@blood8273 ua-cam.com/video/xYSlDN9f8GA/v-deo.htmlsi=QoK_cJN4v2ihdYke No idea why the catabolyst grenade can hit the crit tiers it can, but I know 31 + 200% shouldn't lead to red crits.
Acolyte with full shield got insta killed. I was dying laughing when I just tested. Gun is buggy and weird though. Still prefer the occucor with its augment
Man, I can't wait to see what happens when you finally get your hands on the Sporothrix. Finally managed finally farm that damn thing out. PROTIP: Arcana Iso Vault missions are your friend.
Technically the Exploit itself isn't even a Bug... It's Functioning Exactly the Way as the Mod Describes it Should... Simply Put... Whoever made the Catabolist forgot that mod Existed.... It's the Sort of Incompetence We've come to Expect from DE.😏
Still cant get over the spagguetified baruuk and gara.... Oh catabolyst,while i fear the dispo going down,i too have hope alot of people go equally insane as me trying to use this thing on its current state,its not horrible but it will forever be a fun tedious destroyer beamy
Wow, I had no idea that this weapon was so.. messed up. I really liked using it at one point. I feel like... Multishot should affect the nade. Having to build differently for two attacks of a weapon is whack. You should be able to hold the empty mag indefinitely and get the full boost when you choose to unleash it. Punch Through should affect the beam (and add the base amount back). I don't see why this would be a problem? The mechanical weirdness/inconsistencies of the weapon is not worth any "power creep" (which is basically an Embolyst with a grenade) it could prevent.
DE could just tie the actual refill of the magazine to the start of the throw animation and remove the silly invisible undocumented timer mechanic. Either way, if I want beams and explosions at this point I'll just run my gammacor.
wouldnt it be better to use hollow point target cracker and sharpened bullets to get mad crit damage multi and sourcing elementals from skills like thermal transfer or nourish.
This is one of the more frustrating things with wf. This kind of "details" should be ingame easy to access and learn, instead of having to search for a youtuber or dig into the wiki to learn them. Good job, personally I find the weapon kind of annoying given the manual reload.
I *would* play this gun *IF* they would finally add an auto reload after the magazine is empty and also greatly increase the max ammo since this thing is out of ammo in like 2 seconds when you don't use dispensary.
What would be the best stats for a riven be for the grenade variant of the build? The grenade scales of numerous things so i'm not sure which stats would be the best
@Aznvasions, any reason not to use Ceramic Dagger + Secondary Outburst on this? Ceramic still works with the Synth set reload, and Cata kills still stack up Ceramic's Combo. I can't actually see a difference in the crit damage though with my unranked Secondary Outburst so no idea if it's better than a different arcane.
They just should add a cooldown to the grenade if they wanted it to not be abused, it would be less annoying to use and the aoe breaking punch through on the beam make the gun dang near unusable imo, idky they tried to make the normal beam useless
i'm really annoyed with that punch through bug because I had been using it with zephyr tornadoes and a cc riven to nuke steel path and the punch through lets you hit multiple tornadoes and enemies when they're grouped, now that that doesn't work I'm gonna have to drop dps with a nukor or atomos or furis which sucks.
@@Fawaffles I didn’t say the furis sucks, I said that dropping dps to use furis sucks, I like the furis, I’d just prefer to use the higher dps catabolyst
This weapon should just either not holster reload, or it should automatically throw the grenade. All these little bullshit tweaks DE did, only make the weapon feel so much worse.
Oh, so thwy disabled punch through on explosion projectiles, that blows Explains why my implact bleed punch through Acceltra inused eith Xata's Whisper doesn't work
![What Build Should You Play in Settlers League Fresh Start? [PoE 3.25]](/img/n.gif)
- If you like beam build set-up and don’t like grenade, I recommend Arcane Pistoleer and not modding the Augment altogether.
- I *STRONGLY* recommend not skipping over the “IMPORTANT”-marked sections.
- This is 100% a gimmick weapon. This video serves to show you how best to use its strengths and avoid its weaknesses. This is not a way to turn it into a meta weapon, because it cannot be one.
- The point of this video is to make you aware of the issues on this weapon and either work around them, or take advantage of them, as Catabolyst is a *very* buggy weapon.
- I do not currently have the critical damage equation for the grenade, however, the crit chance formula is as follows:
Grenade Total %CC = (Innate%CC x (1 + Augment%) + (Innate%CC x mod%CC)) x (1 + Augment%)
This can be rewritten as = Innate%CC x (1 + (mod%CC/Innate%CC) + Augment%) x (1 + Augment%)
(mod%CC/Innate%CC) is also the CC value you see in your Arsenal sidebar.
Grenade Crit Chance Table Link: imgur.com/a/Yc54B8x
- Innate%CC on Catabolyst is generally 31%, but this calculation also applies to the partial reload throw, which has only 11% CC.
*TIMESTAMPS*
See me live at: www.twitch.tv/aznvasions
NEW Gun CO Spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/GunCOv2
0:00 Intro & Contexts
0:28 Hidden Issues Exist
0:55 What is Catabolyst?
1:31 Catabolyst Bugs *IMPORTANT*
3:38 "Features" DE Added *IMPORTANT*
5:22 Synth Holster Reload Tech
6:03 How to Use Synth Holster Tech
BUILDS
6:49 Builds Overview
7:05 Build 01 | Hybrid Beam/Grenade
7:57 Build 01 | Alternative Modding if PT Fixed
8:25 Build 02 | Grenade-Focused
9:06 Slowing Reload Time Tech
10:09 How To Use Build 2?
11:03 Nautilus Grouping Build
11:31 Conclusion
Yo I thought de was being stanky for the forced reload timer but after you showed the holster strat….let’s just say that “feature” got nullified by another, swows
Also didn’t know about multishot not working on the reload, pepega brain here
I wish DE would of played Borderlands alot more the have the best gun grenade mechanics
DE: "We've reworked Catabolyst so the grenade now explodes in your hand, killing you instantly with no revives. You brought this on yourselves..."
"This is what you get for trying to have fun"
Dont forget it'll have 1 ammo and ammo pickups will be worth 25% of 1 qmmo
Skill based grenade game play!
Rhino mains be drooling
Mains Chroma and Harrow: Bet
Out of all UA-camrs dealing with WF, you are probably the boldest one when it comes to experimenting new mechanics. That is why I follow your videos, give you constant likes, and keep up with the latest news on how to always keep my arsenal up to date with the latest changes. Keep up the good work, Mr. Scientist. Much respect.
Thank you, that means a lot to me, really though!
Funny
@@bumholeexplorer9387 What is?
Thank you for clarifying some of the mechanics for this weapon... Building it did not feel straightforward and I couldn't figure out why the grenade wasn't landing sometimes (too long after reload).
Secondary crit chance invigorations also give wacky crit tiers.
It's not that wacky. Actually, it just gives you +crit%
while critical mutation is wrong in all means
as it gives you like +600% applicative crit
@@blood8273
ua-cam.com/video/xYSlDN9f8GA/v-deo.htmlsi=QoK_cJN4v2ihdYke
No idea why the catabolyst grenade can hit the crit tiers it can, but I know 31 + 200% shouldn't lead to red crits.
Acolyte with full shield got insta killed. I was dying laughing when I just tested. Gun is buggy and weird though. Still prefer the occucor with its augment
right now is what you prefer till DE nerfs ocucor or fixes the +23874 not intended mechanics of catabolyst
Man, I can't wait to see what happens when you finally get your hands on the Sporothrix. Finally managed finally farm that damn thing out.
PROTIP: Arcana Iso Vault missions are your friend.
That protip is Confusing... Just call them Arcana Bounties. 👀
this augment screams bugframe I love it
gotta love exploitable bug man
Technically the Exploit itself isn't even a Bug... It's Functioning Exactly the Way as the Mod Describes it Should...
Simply Put... Whoever made the Catabolist forgot that mod Existed....
It's the Sort of Incompetence We've come to Expect from DE.😏
One of the most interesting and inspiring builds i ve watching for last 2 years (jezz i m tired of forma all those things )) )
i haven't seen geometry artefacting like in this video in years, but last time i saw it, it was a GPU that was in early stages of failing.
Still cant get over the spagguetified baruuk and gara....
Oh catabolyst,while i fear the dispo going down,i too have hope alot of people go equally insane as me trying to use this thing on its current state,its not horrible but it will forever be a fun tedious destroyer beamy
Thank you, I was going nuts on those reloads... "Do I have smeeta?!"
Another beast of a video! Well worth the lack of sleep
Guiding the grenade with Ivara Navigator scares me
I didn't even Consider that 😳
Wow, I had no idea that this weapon was so.. messed up.
I really liked using it at one point.
I feel like...
Multishot should affect the nade. Having to build differently for two attacks of a weapon is whack.
You should be able to hold the empty mag indefinitely and get the full boost when you choose to unleash it.
Punch Through should affect the beam (and add the base amount back). I don't see why this would be a problem?
The mechanical weirdness/inconsistencies of the weapon is not worth any "power creep" (which is basically an Embolyst with a grenade) it could prevent.
So that was the reason why it skips reload grenade animation entirely.
DE could just tie the actual refill of the magazine to the start of the throw animation and remove the silly invisible undocumented timer mechanic. Either way, if I want beams and explosions at this point I'll just run my gammacor.
wouldnt it be better to use hollow point target cracker and sharpened bullets to get mad crit damage multi and sourcing elementals from skills like thermal transfer or nourish.
I'm pretty sure those Values will be lower than just putting Hornet Strike and other Elements back in there.
Holy cow ... DE says don't use the gun. Skip this gun imo
This is one of the more frustrating things with wf. This kind of "details" should be ingame easy to access and learn, instead of having to search for a youtuber or dig into the wiki to learn them. Good job, personally I find the weapon kind of annoying given the manual reload.
It's too complicated to use it on a daily basis
Catabolyst augment mtiplicative with ash smoke shadow
wut
that makes me think if it's +base cc of grenade instead of flat cc
Interesting builds might have to try them out
I *would* play this gun *IF* they would finally add an auto reload after the magazine is empty and also greatly increase the max ammo since this thing is out of ammo in like 2 seconds when you don't use dispensary.
What would be the best stats for a riven be for the grenade variant of the build? The grenade scales of numerous things so i'm not sure which stats would be the best
@Aznvasions, any reason not to use Ceramic Dagger + Secondary Outburst on this? Ceramic still works with the Synth set reload, and Cata kills still stack up Ceramic's Combo. I can't actually see a difference in the crit damage though with my unranked Secondary Outburst so no idea if it's better than a different arcane.
this is not working anymore..and no one speak about that, as well as glaives+pistol weild dont work about a month
Would projectile speed affect the grenade travel time?
glitched statues, yummy
They just should add a cooldown to the grenade if they wanted it to not be abused, it would be less annoying to use and the aoe breaking punch through on the beam make the gun dang near unusable imo, idky they tried to make the normal beam useless
does the granade explosion benefit from galvanized shot?
i'm really annoyed with that punch through bug because I had been using it with zephyr tornadoes and a cc riven to nuke steel path and the punch through lets you hit multiple tornadoes and enemies when they're grouped, now that that doesn't work I'm gonna have to drop dps with a nukor or atomos or furis which sucks.
but furis is so good
I got a 357 million crit with zephyr using this weapon it’s just so broken
As a Furis connoisseur, furis in fact does not “suck” as you said it does
@@Fawaffles I didn’t say the furis sucks, I said that dropping dps to use furis sucks, I like the furis, I’d just prefer to use the higher dps catabolyst
I don't have the instant reload thing though. If I Switch twice after throwing, it stays at 0, and I did this for a while
Same lol
This weapon should just either not holster reload, or it should automatically throw the grenade. All these little bullshit tweaks DE did, only make the weapon feel so much worse.
Why only this Weapon ?
Creating Isolated Exceptions like this is Exactly why Warframe is so Buggy in The First Place. 👀
Just got a riven for this gun and was wondering what it was. Any recommended stats for the riven mod?
Oh, so thwy disabled punch through on explosion projectiles, that blows
Explains why my implact bleed punch through Acceltra inused eith Xata's Whisper doesn't work
So building only for raw damage ando elemental damage is the way to go for the grenade build?
Since you already abuse the holster mechanic why not buff it more with holster amp and vigorous swap
And it just got a buff from recent jade update
I wish theyd give plinx and others synth charge back
i get way less crit chance. only around 200-300% and not 400+ like in your showcase. has it been nerfed or am i missing something?
skill issue
@@Maxxi9854 i know where ur house lives
btw he didnt get reds either wiht his mods
Why it doesn't crit anymore
Neuron activation augment
lol how do you get red crits and big numbers, with the same grenade build and all augments max active im getting max 1.5 million dmg
It's nerfed already
The crit tier is yes
11:54 u can Build decorations on simulacrum 😂😅😂
how do you roll in the same spot?
Roll + backwards imput + slide
If only I had enough Buttons on my Controller 😬
Time for a new limbo video.
First :D
as always you talk too much bro come to the point ufffffffffffffffffffffff
lol