For me personally the yellow just stands out and is way easier to see. However I have found that white stands out visually better on certain days whether it be overcast or not. Just depends on the lighting of the day. So because of this I carry both colors. But at the end of the day, I almost always will go with yellow because it is just visually easier for me to see.
Me also.Try Red those get lost as quick as any ball I've ever owned. Which is pretty nuts. You would think RED would be a much better visual than any other. Weird
Years ago, at the annual PGA show in FL, I asked the Titleist golf ball rep if they could make a ProV in yellow and he almost laughed in my face, like it was beneath Titleist to make a ball like that. My response to him was that Professional golfers do not buy golfballs, we do. Years later, they now see the value of the Yellow ProV. It is by far my favorite ball and I love the color and performance. It is easier to see and I have not seen any difference between the white or yellow ProVx. Great Video Matt. Keep up the great work.
I personally use yellow balls in general as less people use it and it's just easier to see and identify. It's also easier to spot in the air if its a cloudy day I think.
It's all about visibility - and the Titleist Yellow is unique. I can visually pick out my Yellow ProV1 immediately on the fairway, in the rough or on the green. Easier to follow in flight as well. As fall moves in and the leaves change and drop, i have to move back to a white cover ball.
Just found your channel, very entertaining Matt! Since I’m a physicist, I can’t resist commenting on weighing the golf balls… it would be better to weigh say 10 balls together, rather than just one. The weight differences then are 10 times bigger and your scale could pick that up. So you might get like 453g yellow, 450g white, whereas weighing one ball of each would give the same 45g.
Get a more accurate scale too. Your caliper measurements were not very consistent either. You kept saying the yellow was bigger. It looked like to me that you were squeezing the caliper harder when you measured the white ball. Manufacturers of golf balls go through extensive quality control to have consistent balls. Some knucklehead golf pro is hardly the end all decider of what these balls really are. It's more likely that they made the yellow balls for a driving range so there may be some difference in that regard.
Maybe it's a Placebo Effect but I've been using a yellow ball the last 5 years and love it - however, I prefer the "perceived," yellow color of the Callaway and then the Bridgestone ball the best. I play great with them. I don't require glasses, have good eyesight but maybe there is something to just "seeing," it better. And it's cooler & easier to see it fly through the air than a white ball.
Great video, I always wanted someone to see if there is a difference. I switched to regular pro V1 yellow last year and love it. I have a shot better putting stats and find the balls more …you know the bad bounce in the fairway but you can’t see it to look for it in the right place. I think the yellow are more durable too, I practice chips with 5 yellow and 5 white … the yellows are in better shape.
I switched to yellow a few years ago and never went back. I see the ball better on every aspect. Especially putting and off the tee box. Great video and as far as I know your the only one to have done this type comparison? Great channel and content! I play the yellow triple track Callaway Chrome soft and it has been the best ball I’ve ever played. 50$ a dozen though stings!!!
I don't know about the entry level caliper used. First, those calipers do not allow for precise zeroing before use and, most importandly the measurements has to be taken precisely at the ball's equator which is not an easy feat with those thin calipers jaws. Regards !
I like using green balls because when I go up to the green I know which ball is mine, If I gave ten people calipers to measure something you would get ten different measurements. Difficult to use consistantly. Noticed some slight difference in colors which would effect the durometer of the material making it softer or harder. Would be good to test different lots.
I’m partial to the yellows just because visually it’s like I can concentrate better on it. Plus it’s nice to know it’s my ball when driving up. But the best part for me is I can’t handle cuts and scrapes on my ball. And the yellow prov hides it waaaaaay better than the white so I can’t see it and play it longer
I tried red, white, green, yellow, and now just use yellow... I can see them the best by far... I usually buy used yellow pro v1's, they're not much more $ than new trufeel and I love the way they look and feel... I also like tour soft yellow, and callaway green (it's a yellowish flourescent bright green)
The advantage of the yellow balls is for tracking the ball in flight, not necessarily for finding it on the ground. empirical work has shown that on average, humans can track yellow through the air further than other colors.
Could be a difference because you're not a robot. I think you'd need a lot larger sample size to get a true test. Also, maybe alternate. Maybe 3 shots with white then 3 with yellow, rinse and repeat.
With such a small sample, the small differences in weight and diameter could easily be just random differences within the manufacturing tolerances. Measure with more precise instruments, and buy 20 or 50 dozen of each from different manufacturing lots, and you might get some usable information.
Matt, it looked like the cover thickness was greater on the yellow ball much like a srixon which has a relatively thick cover of urethane. Also btw I play yellow balls in the winter here in Ga. They just are easier to see in our dormant grass.
I’m currently a 6.9 index and play yellow Titleist TruFeel and Bridgestone e6 balls, exclusively. For me they provide the best bang for the buck…and my scoring really isn’t any better when playing a premium ball, of which I’ve tried several. Also, as I have to wear non-prescription sunglasses since my eyes are pretty light sensitive, I find the I can track the yellow balls in flight much better.
A kitchen scale is not really the best thing to use. they have at least a gramm measuring tolerance. and that is already 3% of the ball weight. imagine your body scale would deviate by 4 pounds would you use it?
You’re assuming you actually measured a difference. Pretty sure the measuring tools at Titleist have better tolerances than the ones you got at your local hardware store.
I usually play a yellow ball either Titleist or Srixon XV, I played a white prov1x last week and shot my lowest round ever. Coincidence?? Most likely haha but it makes you think. I play the yellow because I have some eye problems and the yellow is easier to track. But what I have wondered is what effect does it possibly have on my eyeing of the ball during the backswing. Great video Matt
I think the yellow feels softer for some reason. Closer to a ProV1 with the same flight characteristics as white X. Nothing other than my own opinion but I am looking to swap out my whites for yellow.
Mygolfspy did something similar in their recent ball test, albeit a ProV1 not the ProV1x. They found something similar, that the yellow ball spins less with driver and 8 iron so goes a little further. This would indicate something is different in the cover?
I have found with Callaway a good difference. DARK DEEP RED vs YELLOW. I live on the 16th Green here at Gold Hills. Approx Four times a week I carry my clubs to the 16th, 11th or 4th Tees. I hit 10 to 12 Tee Shots one after the other with three to four different types of balls. In Callaway I see a MAJOR DIFFERENCE in the two balls in DISTANCE. DARK DEEP RED is 15 to 20 yards in total distance LESS than the Yellow Balls I am an 63 yr old with a Driver speed of approx 83 (Yes, I'm and Old Guy) that has been playing over 50 yrs I started this to get a feel for the percentage of balls I could put in the fairway, so color was not in my view I have done this we Callaway, Titlist, MaxFli, Bridgestone, Pinnacle, TaylorMade, Volik and many more Also, different balls by different brands as we knowm Callaway makes a large number of different balls The DARK DEEP RED balls are among the weakest for distance off the tee,, I will not get into the Ball I have found to be the best for off the Tee and that is because it would be different for everyone. Swing Speed, Fade vs Draw, High vs Low Launch and the Spin on the Ball due to your Club Path all make a difference. For me the Launch is high even off my 10.5 Driver, but the distance is unquestionable overall between Brands and Models My Dad just gave me 24 new balls from Titlist as he is 84 and does not play much any more. He was always a Titlist player. I will play with them this summer and see how they stack up, but word is that they should be the ones in that lineup that match my swing speed Off the links
My impression of the ProV1 (not Prov1x) is that the yellow feel a bit livelier and have a slightly different sound upon impact. Note that in relation to polyester tennis strings it is well known that the color of the string affects how stiff and lively it plays (same string with different colors.) Brightly colored strings are always livelier than black. Thus it is not a stretch to consider that yellow golf balls will play different than white balls.
2 things...possibly trackman data is different because of the color. Second, the color is designed to be perceived by the eye as bigger, eventhough its really not. This principle is why tm came out with the pix ball, callaway has the truvis, etc. Its all in tricking the eye its a bigger ball which means better contact.
My understanding that to make a yellow version isn’t just a matter of dye or paint,the polymer formulation is actually different to enable the coloring.
Interesting test. I've never thought to test different colors of the same ball for performance. I have found, however that firmer compression balls give me 3-5 more mph in ball speed across the board, and about 10 more yds carry off the driver as compared to softer balls. My numbers are very similar to yours, ~255 carry, but I'm getting older (59), and almost always lose track of my ball in the air. I just hope to see it bounce. I talked with optometrists and they say there it's just age related, so there's nothing that can be done prescription wise to help that. So, I use yellow or white based mostly on the light conditions. Yellow for overcast, or the last few holes before dark works well. Otherwise white is fine. Yellow, or any other color balls are hard for me to spot when it's bright and sunny out. When the leaves are falling, all bets are off and I just use cheap balls. lol A lot of the leaves that fall are yellow, but even besides that, just all the visual clutter in the rough makes spotting balls tough in the fall. Not to mention that it can just roll up under them.
Firmer back only goes further on well struck shots. Most cannot fully compress a firmer ball softer compression is better for most golfer. Much more forgiveness with similar distance
Weigh a combinatiion of the balls, e.g. all 3 ball scombines or combinations of two balls, and divide to estimate the weigh twith sub-gram accuracy: e.g. weighing two balls comibined of 45.4 grams each should amount to a total of 91 grams when rounded, thus getting an estimate of 45.5 which would be pretty close.
I have some glaucoma. I use bright red balls that I can see easily. I lose white and yellow colors in the sky. Autumn leaves do tend to obscure the red balls though.
I tend to use the opposite color then the range balls (at least on 1,9,10 and 18) since occasionally you see range balls on those holes and finding my ball is a bit easier. I can generally see the yellow a bit better (especially when NOT in the fairway)
I switched to yellow as I got older because for some reason I was able to follow them on shots better than the whites. My friends still play white and I can follow their ball through the shot but from my perspective as the hitter, I tend to lose or not pick them up where as yellow I do follow them better.
I prefer the yellow vs the white since it´s easier to identify and it´s more (durable?), also when playing in courses where leaves are abundant the yellow stands out vs the white which it can be confused with a leaf
I dip my balls in methylated spirt and light them just prior to hitting off the tee. Makes them much easier to see though this technique can only be used in the winter due to the risk of fire on the course.
Did you put the calipers on the different pieces of the ball after cut open? Looks like the yellow cover is thicker and some of the inner cores are different ball to ball.
My courses are in good condition but not perfect conditions. When there is some clover in the rough that is flowering, it’s a yellow ball day. When there is some dandelions flowering in the rough, it is a white ball day! That makes sense, right?
Good analysis of the 2 colors Matt. I think its psychological too. I switched from white to orange because I was having difficulty seeing where my ball was landing and noticed and felt that I was striking my shots better. By the way the ball in your video was green right? lol 🤣
The difference is whatever is in the coating for making the yellow. I found the same with white to yellow Bridgestone Tour BXS balls. The yellow didn't quite have the same sound off my putter that the white did. Has put me off trying them out again. 👍
I’ve been using the yellow Bridgestone tour BXS and like them, I haven’t noticed what you said with the white balls, I’ve played them too. I’ll have to check out the white ones again and see if I can tell a difference.
Those subtle differences - I really could imagine that the color itself might have an influence on the launch monitors sensing and processing. In other words, on a real range the actual distances might not be that different.
Matt, the dispersion was better with the yellow for both clubs, although you didn't seem to realise it. Look again. On that experiment I would definitely switch to the yellow from now on. And it's a lot easier to find in the rough !
I've been using the Callaway superfast balls for a while, and I started with the matte red and yellows, then I found a white one while out on a course and said hey thats what I play and thought nothing of it. A few days later I was chipping and pitching in my little backyard range I have set up and I noticed that the white had a totally different feel than the matte colored ones. I got more spin and more feel outta the white vs the matte. Maybe you should test that just to see if you get the same results???
Just an observation but I noticed the spin rate is italicized which means it’s estimating. Won’t that effect carry distance? Whenever I’m in a Trackman indoors, I put the reflective dot on the ball for more accurate numbers.
Is the Callaway Supersoft MAX not a "bigger" ball ? Maybe try a test between them and the ProV1x. The Topflite XL 2000 2 piece ball was larger - not sure if they still make them ?
Great video Matt - the inner cores of the white and yellow balls appeared to be a different diameter..? Essentially then, they are not the same ball ..!
I always found the yellow pro V1 more clicky (very slightly harder) than the white - maybe you should add a hardness test to your protocol? Dropping onto a tiled floor can be informative too!
Very strange that the insides of the ball are different colors. Does that mean they are slightly different materials? From a production point, it makes no sense to have different insides if the only difference is supposed to be the outside color. Maybe the paint weighs more for one color? According to the rules of golf, golf balls can't weigh more than 1.62 ounces, or 45.93 grams. The diameter can't be less than 1.68 inches, or 42.67 mm. So, both color balls are slightly smaller than the minimum. Problem with your calipers? Scales usually round and your scale doesn't have enough accuracy to accurately weigh a golf ball. You'd have to weigh 100+ balls at a time to get somewhat accurate results to the hundredths of a gram.
I’m color blind with certain colors. Reds and browns, yellows and greens. I have a hard time seeing yellow and green balls on the fairway in the grass, same with red balls. White stands out really well for me so I stick with white balls.
There is more. Different cover de cover of de white is softer the yellow differt sound with the putter harder for the yellow and mutch more scratches collars go offf
Couldn’t t those numbers be within tolerance of the launch monitor, and either your “prejudice “ (for lack of better wording)make you hit slightly different ,or the monitor picking up a slight radar difference due to color?
Interesting initial findings my friend but are these data differences statistically significant and could a larger sample size reduce those differences to insignificance? More testing using random sampling (with means, P values, and other statistical tools) and larger sample sizes could potentially provide an answer.
You can clearly see that the dimples are sharper on the white ball. So contact with the club will have less surface area until the ball compresses and in the air the white ball will have more aerodynamic effects from the spin.
its funny since turning 42 my eye sight has got worse and i struggle to pick up the white ball i find my self looking to move towards a yellow ball as i can just pick them up in flight easier.
Was super lucky to get the Titleist white box last summer for ball testing what is now the 2023 ProV1 and ProV1x. These were the bomb. The x was hands down the best ball. I outdrove the Vice I was using by 20 yards. In some cases I hit PB distances with the ball. In one case 30 yards further than I had ever driven a ball on that hole. I felt the production version of the ball was about 10 yards shorter, but made a recent grip change which has produced surprising results. In addition moved from PXG Gen 3 fairways to G425 Max fairways this week, so we'll see what happens.
I have played yellow for the last 5 years or so and wont go back to white. I have been playing Taylormade Tour Response, but the Pro V 1’s are a bit longer.
Matt, how about a video on which golf balls last longer on the course. Also, more general, when should a ball be taken out and another one played. I usually play one ball several rounds, am I wrong ?
I'll use a ball until the outer case dulls off. somewhere between 1 and 2 rounds, then throw in the practice bag (we do have a lot of water here and pretty much unlimited supply of new lake balls). Once you sort of have to scrub them between holes i'm done. I can't prove anything ... however if crap is sticking to them the flight is probably being effected. Have used for more than 4 rounds with no noticeable performance difference. Titleist by far keep their shine up the longest for me. B/stone + T/made dull fast.
I'm 28 and found out I had ADD early in my life. To be able to hold my attention to books in school I used a Yellow Transparent Sheet. I could still read the page and the sheet helped hold my eyes to the task at hand. I applied this to my golf balls and I found it helps me keep my eye on the ball through my swing.
Do you realize, that .03mm is only .00118 inches? Not enough to be significant. You need a much larger sample, say over 100 balls. Also you may be unconsciously influanced bt the ball color, when you swing. You need a machine to swing the club.
Very interesting seeing the inner cores. Manufacturers don’t typically use different color cores for items that are supposedly only different on the outside. It’s more costly to produce which cuts profits.
seriously though Matt - could the difference be down to the fact that you hit the yellow balls second and would therefore be slightly more loose/warmed up?
I’d be willing to be he hits some warm up shots before doing any testing, he probably just doesn’t show that part because it has nothing to do with the video.
per Wikipedia: Under the rules of golf, a golf ball has a mass no more than 1.620 oz (45.9 g), has a diameter not less than 1.680 inches (42.7 mm) Wow, so Titleist is producing non-conforming golf balls? 42.62 < 42.7 (42.672 actually) (minimum) ; Who is wrong? Titleist or Wikipedia?
using a caliper like that is so not accurate. The exact position on the ball that you measure along with the pressure you put on the caliper will change it that much. Not to mension that there is a +or- tolerance that could be as much as at least .05 or so and even .1 or .2 depending on the unit.
For me personally the yellow just stands out and is way easier to see. However I have found that white stands out visually better on certain days whether it be overcast or not. Just depends on the lighting of the day. So because of this I carry both colors. But at the end of the day, I almost always will go with yellow because it is just visually easier for me to see.
Same
Me too.
Yellow for me is much easier to see as is green
Me also.Try Red those get lost as quick as any ball I've ever owned. Which is pretty nuts. You would think RED would be a much better visual than any other. Weird
@@stemtostern7611 absolutely
Years ago, at the annual PGA show in FL, I asked the Titleist golf ball rep if they could make a ProV in yellow and he almost laughed in my face, like it was beneath Titleist to make a ball like that. My response to him was that Professional golfers do not buy golfballs, we do. Years later, they now see the value of the Yellow ProV. It is by far my favorite ball and I love the color and performance. It is easier to see and I have not seen any difference between the white or yellow ProVx. Great Video Matt. Keep up the great work.
I personally use yellow balls in general as less people use it and it's just easier to see and identify. It's also easier to spot in the air if its a cloudy day I think.
It's all about visibility - and the Titleist Yellow is unique. I can visually pick out my Yellow ProV1 immediately on the fairway, in the rough or on the green. Easier to follow in flight as well. As fall moves in and the leaves change and drop, i have to move back to a white cover ball.
Just found your channel, very entertaining Matt! Since I’m a physicist, I can’t resist commenting on weighing the golf balls… it would be better to weigh say 10 balls together, rather than just one. The weight differences then are 10 times bigger and your scale could pick that up. So you might get like 453g yellow, 450g white, whereas weighing one ball of each would give the same 45g.
Awesome I’ll do that next time
Get a more accurate scale too.
Your caliper measurements were not very consistent either. You kept saying the yellow was bigger. It looked like to me that you were squeezing the caliper harder when you measured the white ball. Manufacturers of golf balls go through extensive quality control to have consistent balls. Some knucklehead golf pro is hardly the end all decider of what these balls really are. It's more likely that they made the yellow balls for a driving range so there may be some difference in that regard.
I’m happy to use whatever I find on the course, but it’s always a bonus to find yellow balls!
Great video. The yellow ProV1 and ProV1x appear slightly smaller to my eyes but I still love rotating them into my game.
The white ball is drawing more and simply not in the fairway. That’s why I play yellow.
Maybe it's a Placebo Effect but I've been using a yellow ball the last 5 years and love it - however, I prefer the "perceived," yellow color of the Callaway and then the Bridgestone ball the best. I play great with them. I don't require glasses, have good eyesight but maybe there is something to just "seeing," it better. And it's cooler & easier to see it fly through the air than a white ball.
I just like the yellow helps me see it and find it
Great video, I always wanted someone to see if there is a difference. I switched to regular pro V1 yellow last year and love it. I have a shot better putting stats and find the balls more …you know the bad bounce in the fairway but you can’t see it to look for it in the right place. I think the yellow are more durable too, I practice chips with 5 yellow and 5 white … the yellows are in better shape.
I switched to yellow a few years ago and never went back. I see the ball better on every aspect. Especially putting and off the tee box. Great video and as far as I know your the only one to have done this type comparison? Great channel and content! I play the yellow triple track Callaway Chrome soft and it has been the best ball I’ve ever played. 50$ a dozen though stings!!!
I don't know about the entry level caliper used. First, those calipers do not allow for precise zeroing before use and, most importandly the measurements has to be taken precisely at the ball's equator which is not an easy feat with those thin calipers jaws. Regards !
I like using green balls because when I go up to the green I know which ball is mine, If I gave ten people calipers to measure something you would get ten different measurements. Difficult to use consistantly. Noticed some slight difference in colors which would effect the durometer of the material making it softer or harder. Would be good to test different lots.
I’m partial to the yellows just because visually it’s like I can concentrate better on it. Plus it’s nice to know it’s my ball when driving up.
But the best part for me is I can’t handle cuts and scrapes on my ball. And the yellow prov hides it waaaaaay better than the white so I can’t see it and play it longer
I tried red, white, green, yellow, and now just use yellow... I can see them the best by far... I usually buy used yellow pro v1's, they're not much more $ than new trufeel and I love the way they look and feel... I also like tour soft yellow, and callaway green (it's a yellowish flourescent bright green)
The advantage of the yellow balls is for tracking the ball in flight, not necessarily for finding it on the ground. empirical work has shown that on average, humans can track yellow through the air further than other colors.
Could be a difference because you're not a robot. I think you'd need a lot larger sample size to get a true test. Also, maybe alternate. Maybe 3 shots with white then 3 with yellow, rinse and repeat.
With such a small sample, the small differences in weight and diameter could easily be just random differences within the manufacturing tolerances.
Measure with more precise instruments, and buy 20 or 50 dozen of each from different manufacturing lots, and you might get some usable information.
You need an Iron Byron type of hitting machine to have an accurate test on Trackman
Matt, it looked like the cover thickness was greater on the yellow ball much like a srixon which has a relatively thick cover of urethane. Also btw I play yellow balls in the winter here in Ga. They just are easier to see in our dormant grass.
No it doesn't
I’m currently a 6.9 index and play yellow Titleist TruFeel and Bridgestone e6 balls, exclusively. For me they provide the best bang for the buck…and my scoring really isn’t any better when playing a premium ball, of which I’ve tried several. Also, as I have to wear non-prescription sunglasses since my eyes are pretty light sensitive, I find the I can track the yellow balls in flight much better.
The measuring was probably skewed from the divots on the ball and the human error of trying to measure a circle.
Exactly
Dimples…
It may sound crazy, but I hit matte yellow balls better- regardless of brand. Something about the color and no glare just works for me.
A kitchen scale is not really the best thing to use. they have at least a gramm measuring tolerance. and that is already 3% of the ball weight. imagine your body scale would deviate by 4 pounds would you use it?
You’re assuming you actually measured a difference. Pretty sure the measuring tools at Titleist have better tolerances than the ones you got at your local hardware store.
I usually play a yellow ball either Titleist or Srixon XV, I played a white prov1x last week and shot my lowest round ever. Coincidence?? Most likely haha but it makes you think. I play the yellow because I have some eye problems and the yellow is easier to track. But what I have wondered is what effect does it possibly have on my eyeing of the ball during the backswing. Great video Matt
Same ball. Color like firmness is personal preference. Love my yellow ProV1
I think the yellow feels softer for some reason. Closer to a ProV1 with the same flight characteristics as white X. Nothing other than my own opinion but I am looking to swap out my whites for yellow.
Mygolfspy did something similar in their recent ball test, albeit a ProV1 not the ProV1x. They found something similar, that the yellow ball spins less with driver and 8 iron so goes a little further. This would indicate something is different in the cover?
It is because it sounds different
I have found with Callaway a good difference. DARK DEEP RED vs YELLOW. I live on the 16th Green here at Gold Hills. Approx Four times a week I carry my clubs to the 16th, 11th or 4th Tees.
I hit 10 to 12 Tee Shots one after the other with three to four different types of balls. In Callaway I see a MAJOR DIFFERENCE in the two balls in DISTANCE.
DARK DEEP RED is 15 to 20 yards in total distance LESS than the Yellow Balls
I am an 63 yr old with a Driver speed of approx 83 (Yes, I'm and Old Guy) that has been playing over 50 yrs
I started this to get a feel for the percentage of balls I could put in the fairway, so color was not in my view
I have done this we Callaway, Titlist, MaxFli, Bridgestone, Pinnacle, TaylorMade, Volik and many more
Also, different balls by different brands as we knowm Callaway makes a large number of different balls
The DARK DEEP RED balls are among the weakest for distance off the tee,, I will not get into the Ball I have found to be the best for off the Tee
and that is because it would be different for everyone. Swing Speed, Fade vs Draw, High vs Low Launch and the Spin on the Ball due to your Club Path all make a difference.
For me the Launch is high even off my 10.5 Driver, but the distance is unquestionable overall between Brands and Models
My Dad just gave me 24 new balls from Titlist as he is 84 and does not play much any more. He was always a Titlist player.
I will play with them this summer and see how they stack up, but word is that they should be the ones in that lineup that match my swing speed
Off the links
My impression of the ProV1 (not Prov1x) is that the yellow feel a bit livelier and have a slightly different sound upon impact. Note that in relation to polyester tennis strings it is well known that the color of the string affects how stiff and lively it plays (same string with different colors.) Brightly colored strings are always livelier than black. Thus it is not a stretch to consider that yellow golf balls will play different than white balls.
2 things...possibly trackman data is different because of the color. Second, the color is designed to be perceived by the eye as bigger, eventhough its really not. This principle is why tm came out with the pix ball, callaway has the truvis, etc. Its all in tricking the eye its a bigger ball which means better contact.
Congrats on 400K! 🎉🎉 ps missing the chickens...
My understanding that to make a yellow version isn’t just a matter of dye or paint,the polymer formulation is actually different to enable the coloring.
Interesting test. I've never thought to test different colors of the same ball for performance. I have found, however that firmer compression balls give me 3-5 more mph in ball speed across the board, and about 10 more yds carry off the driver as compared to softer balls. My numbers are very similar to yours, ~255 carry, but I'm getting older (59), and almost always lose track of my ball in the air. I just hope to see it bounce. I talked with optometrists and they say there it's just age related, so there's nothing that can be done prescription wise to help that. So, I use yellow or white based mostly on the light conditions. Yellow for overcast, or the last few holes before dark works well. Otherwise white is fine. Yellow, or any other color balls are hard for me to spot when it's bright and sunny out. When the leaves are falling, all bets are off and I just use cheap balls. lol A lot of the leaves that fall are yellow, but even besides that, just all the visual clutter in the rough makes spotting balls tough in the fall. Not to mention that it can just roll up under them.
Firmer back only goes further on well struck shots. Most cannot fully compress a firmer ball softer compression is better for most golfer. Much more forgiveness with similar distance
Weigh a combinatiion of the balls, e.g. all 3 ball scombines or combinations of two balls, and divide to estimate the weigh twith sub-gram accuracy: e.g. weighing two balls comibined of 45.4 grams each should amount to a total of 91 grams when rounded, thus getting an estimate of 45.5 which would be pretty close.
I have some glaucoma. I use bright red balls that I can see easily. I lose white and yellow colors in the sky. Autumn leaves do tend to obscure the red balls though.
Not a fan of yellow. Especially on courses that have holes next to the driving range
I tend to use the opposite color then the range balls (at least on 1,9,10 and 18) since occasionally you see range balls on those holes and finding my ball is a bit easier. I can generally see the yellow a bit better (especially when NOT in the fairway)
I switched to yellow as I got older because for some reason I was able to follow them on shots better than the whites. My friends still play white and I can follow their ball through the shot but from my perspective as the hitter, I tend to lose or not pick them up where as yellow I do follow them better.
I prefer the yellow vs the white since it´s easier to identify and it´s more (durable?), also when playing in courses where leaves are abundant the yellow stands out vs the white which it can be confused with a leaf
I dip my balls in methylated spirt and light them just prior to hitting off the tee. Makes them much easier to see though this technique can only be used in the winter due to the risk of fire on the course.
Thanks Matt!
Did you put the calipers on the different pieces of the ball after cut open? Looks like the yellow cover is thicker and some of the inner cores are different ball to ball.
My courses are in good condition but not perfect conditions. When there is some clover in the rough that is flowering, it’s a yellow ball day. When there is some dandelions flowering in the rough, it is a white ball day! That makes sense, right?
Interesting. Normally I play yellow on overcast days, and white with blue sky's. I see the yellow better against cloud cover.
At 9:41...isn't the yellow urethane cover TWICE as thick as the white Pro V??......
Good analysis of the 2 colors Matt. I think its psychological too. I switched from white to orange because I was having difficulty seeing where my ball was landing and noticed and felt that I was striking my shots better. By the way the ball in your video was green right? lol 🤣
The difference is whatever is in the coating for making the yellow. I found the same with white to yellow Bridgestone Tour BXS balls. The yellow didn't quite have the same sound off my putter that the white did. Has put me off trying them out again. 👍
I’ve been using the yellow Bridgestone tour BXS and like them, I haven’t noticed what you said with the white balls, I’ve played them too. I’ll have to check out the white ones again and see if I can tell a difference.
Those subtle differences - I really could imagine that the color itself might have an influence on the launch monitors sensing and processing. In other words, on a real range the actual distances might not be that different.
With my old (73) eyes I'm lucky to follow a white ball 100 yards. I can see the yellow ball in flight close to 200 yards, if I can hit it that far!
You are spot on on seeing colors differently...the white ball you held up looks yellow to me and the yellow ball you held up looks white...go figure!
I play at Daybreak, yellow helps see the ball.
Plus, IT'S FUN!!
WHITE IS BORING!!
why more pros don't use a colored ball is really strange...
Matt, the dispersion was better with the yellow for both clubs, although you didn't seem to realise it. Look again. On that experiment I would definitely switch to the yellow from now on. And it's a lot easier to find in the rough !
Everytime I find a yellow AVX on the course, it ends up producing my best drives. I don't know why.
Avx balls have lower compression and spin which equates to long as hell off the tee.
The AVX is the longest ball for me, not sure why but it's 5 yards longer than anything else.
I've been using the Callaway superfast balls for a while, and I started with the matte red and yellows, then I found a white one while out on a course and said hey thats what I play and thought nothing of it. A few days later I was chipping and pitching in my little backyard range I have set up and I noticed that the white had a totally different feel than the matte colored ones. I got more spin and more feel outta the white vs the matte. Maybe you should test that just to see if you get the same results???
Just an observation but I noticed the spin rate is italicized which means it’s estimating. Won’t that effect carry distance? Whenever I’m in a Trackman indoors, I put the reflective dot on the ball for more accurate numbers.
Is the Callaway Supersoft MAX not a "bigger" ball ?
Maybe try a test between them and the ProV1x.
The Topflite XL 2000 2 piece ball was larger - not sure if they still make them ?
Personally I like yellow and green balls visually can see them better and can find them better if they go off line
It could be your measurements could be off slightly. I didn’t know they made yellow Pro V1’s
So when I shank one hard left should I have hit the yellow ball or the white ball?
Great video Matt - the inner cores of the white and yellow balls appeared to be a different diameter..?
Essentially then, they are not the same ball ..!
I always found the yellow pro V1 more clicky (very slightly harder) than the white - maybe you should add a hardness test to your protocol? Dropping onto a tiled floor can be informative too!
Very strange that the insides of the ball are different colors. Does that mean they are slightly different materials? From a production point, it makes no sense to have different insides if the only difference is supposed to be the outside color. Maybe the paint weighs more for one color?
According to the rules of golf, golf balls can't weigh more than 1.62 ounces, or 45.93 grams. The diameter can't be less than 1.68 inches, or 42.67 mm. So, both color balls are slightly smaller than the minimum. Problem with your calipers? Scales usually round and your scale doesn't have enough accuracy to accurately weigh a golf ball. You'd have to weigh 100+ balls at a time to get somewhat accurate results to the hundredths of a gram.
I’m color blind with certain colors. Reds and browns, yellows and greens. I have a hard time seeing yellow and green balls on the fairway in the grass, same with red balls. White stands out really well for me so I stick with white balls.
There is more. Different cover de cover of de white is softer the yellow differt sound with the putter harder for the yellow and mutch more scratches collars go offf
The track man is an optical system to give you the spin ,carry numbers. Is this system effected by the colour?
Couldn’t t those numbers be within tolerance of the launch monitor, and either your “prejudice “ (for lack of better wording)make you hit slightly different ,or the monitor picking up a slight radar difference due to color?
Most manufacturers work within an acceptable range, not only with golf balls but almost every item out there. They probably have a “+,-“ factor in QC
Curious to see if the results were the same outdoors were trackman could measure the full flight. Seems to be a lot of italicized spin numbers.
The inner mantle of the yellow ball looks like it has a larger diameter.
Well, if I cut it in different places then the inner core would be a different size.
Interesting initial findings my friend but are these data differences statistically significant and could a larger sample size reduce those differences to insignificance? More testing using random sampling (with means, P values, and other statistical tools) and larger sample sizes could potentially provide an answer.
It could be just me, but the white's dimples seem deeper.
You can clearly see that the dimples are sharper on the white ball. So contact with the club will have less surface area until the ball compresses and in the air the white ball will have more aerodynamic effects from the spin.
its funny since turning 42 my eye sight has got worse and i struggle to pick up the white ball i find my self looking to move towards a yellow ball as i can just pick them up in flight easier.
Was super lucky to get the Titleist white box last summer for ball testing what is now the 2023 ProV1 and ProV1x. These were the bomb. The x was hands down the best ball. I outdrove the Vice I was using by 20 yards. In some cases I hit PB distances with the ball. In one case 30 yards further than I had ever driven a ball on that hole. I felt the production version of the ball was about 10 yards shorter, but made a recent grip change which has produced surprising results. In addition moved from PXG Gen 3 fairways to G425 Max fairways this week, so we'll see what happens.
I have played yellow for the last 5 years or so and wont go back to white. I have been playing Taylormade Tour Response, but the Pro V 1’s are a bit longer.
Great video. I cant feel difference when I play them. Buy the yellow just feel plasticly in a strange way when holding them in hand
Matt, how about a video on which golf balls last longer on the course. Also, more general,
when should a ball be taken out and another one played. I usually play one ball several rounds, am I wrong ?
I'll use a ball until the outer case dulls off. somewhere between 1 and 2 rounds, then throw in the practice bag (we do have a lot of water here and pretty much unlimited supply of new lake balls). Once you sort of have to scrub them between holes i'm done. I can't prove anything ... however if crap is sticking to them the flight is probably being effected. Have used for more than 4 rounds with no noticeable performance difference.
Titleist by far keep their shine up the longest for me. B/stone + T/made dull fast.
thx@@countryboy8870
could you do a comparison to all the colors etc?
Been using yellow for years. If they are good enough for Freddy and Ernie.....
My wife found this discussion about balls interesting. 😂
Thx for the almost scientific testing 😂 For me l felt that color balls just felt harder. Maybe next you can do the Rockwell test. 😂
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I've always thought the covers felt different?
Are there no elastic bands in balls anymore?
I play the yellow AVX. It’s sturdier and a little longer than the white AVX. Can be hard to find in the rough though.
I feel like I get a better strike on the ball because it stands out so much sitting on the ground.
I'm 28 and found out I had ADD early in my life. To be able to hold my attention to books in school I used a Yellow Transparent Sheet. I could still read the page and the sheet helped hold my eyes to the task at hand. I applied this to my golf balls and I found it helps me keep my eye on the ball through my swing.
Is this the same for the ProV1 version?
Do you realize, that .03mm is only .00118 inches? Not enough to be significant. You need a much larger sample, say over 100 balls. Also you may be unconsciously influanced bt the ball color, when you swing. You need a machine to swing the club.
Interesting great content as usual💪
Never going to see yellows in stock now that they go “slightly” farther 😂
Very interesting seeing the inner cores. Manufacturers don’t typically use different color cores for items that are supposedly only different on the outside. It’s more costly to produce which cuts profits.
Congrats on 400k!
seriously though Matt - could the difference be down to the fact that you hit the yellow balls second and would therefore be slightly more loose/warmed up?
I’d be willing to be he hits some warm up shots before doing any testing, he probably just doesn’t show that part because it has nothing to do with the video.
you're probably right. I'd be pinging them all over the place if I didn't warm up first.@@svk_5104
per Wikipedia: Under the rules of golf, a golf ball has a mass no more than 1.620 oz (45.9 g), has a diameter not less than 1.680 inches (42.7 mm)
Wow, so Titleist is producing non-conforming golf balls? 42.62 < 42.7 (42.672 actually) (minimum) ; Who is wrong? Titleist or Wikipedia?
Golf should be played with a plain white ball. What’s next pink hockey pucks in the nhl?
using a caliper like that is so not accurate. The exact position on the ball that you measure along with the pressure you put on the caliper will change it that much. Not to mension that there is a +or- tolerance that could be as much as at least .05 or so and even .1 or .2 depending on the unit.
I had a yellow one and didn’t like the cover!