Making a 105 Pound (120 Pounds at 30”) Turkish Inspired PVC Pipe Bow - No Fiberglass - Shaping PVC
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2020
- Here’s part one of the 100 Pound Turkish style bow build. This one uses a 1” Schedule 40 PVC pipe cut down to 47” and the finished bow draws 105# @ 28” and 120# @ 30”. In this video we’ll be flattening the limbs, shaping the tips, handle, and recurves, and string the bow with Paracord. We’ll also be doing the first weigh-in of this bow. Next time we’ll finish the bow by applying car wrap vinyl and a vinyl handle wrap. Thanks for watching and enjoy!
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Great job man 👍 I want you to know you've made a positive impact on my life. I found a cheap and fascinating hobby when I needed it desperately. Thank you.. for real
You are welcome! Thank you for watching!
What is the width of the bow?
@@Mojo_jojo386 says Schedule 40 PVC pipe in description i believe its on thicker side of 1 1/2 inch pipe the parts where its been flattened it would be up to 45% or 50% wider than its starting 1 & 1/2 inches(probably more like 40% because of thickness of pipe) so probably just over 2 or 2.2 inches at widest points
when you flatten a ring (or pipe) you can get up to 50% width increase, minus the tickness of the wall of pipe/ring i think schedule 40 is about 3mm walls. the charts for schedule state its collapse weight at 1.5 inches is 375 PSI (hence the flattening to harness that without it being to ridgid)
Hi if there’s one person that can push the limits of a pvc warbow, it’s you. Waiting till the day you make a 200 pvc handbow ;)
If I do, you definitely need to shoot it! I managed 27" today (90 pounds). The dynamics of shooting a bow this heavy are so different. Thanks for the tips! The action feels more like prying open the jaws of some massive beast than drawing back a bow.
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This thing is a beast, glad to see such powerful bows are possible out of PVC
It is! Thanks for watching!
wow this guy lost so much weight im so happy for you bro well done. wow you are inspirational
Finally you made a Turkish style bow.
Yes! Thanks for watching!
Can’t wait to see it preform.
Thanks for watching!
I can't wait until you upgrade to making a speed loader for your pvc bows.. I watched the sling shot channel go from sling shots to semi auto weapons 🤣
Awesome explanation, I love the "make sure yours looks equal to mine" checkpoints, and awesome results.. truly experienced and willing to teach others.
Thanks
Jorg Sprave is a true badass.
Glad you're making videos again! Been watching and bought one of your books years ago. Unfortunately it got lost. That bow is a beast, can't wait to see you fire it!
Thank you Nick. It's a pleasure to watch yours videos.
You are very welcome!
Just amazing Nick, unbelievable !!! can't wait to see the performance and specs for this wonder !!!
I didn't think a PVC bow would be able to be this strong, that is insane. Such a cool project, well done!
I can't wait to build one of these!
When I do a bow, I trace the curve of the 1st limb onto paper and match the second limb to the tracing. I have had really good success 1st time tillering that way.
it can be easier to do both lam at once. (thats why so many modern bow designs have power limbs on a handle) attach both pieces of wood to each other/both pvc limbs to each other with 2 sided tape & clamps for wood or bindings/clamps for pvc )clamp them so you can cut heat one side cut/bend it rotate clamps cut other side(or in case of pvc and bending i guess youd tape and clamp them side by side or ontop of each otehr depending on bend you where doing then heat rather than cut, so long as you kept it flush cutting, & have enough binding points with pvc, (could probably use zip ties or cotton thread binding if you where careful not to overheat them) you should have exactly the same angles and taper points on both lam that way
& i saw a guy using socket handle system the other day that would lend itself well to a pvc pipe. so you could 1/2 length of bow for transport
(youd just get a gauge smaller pipe than u where using a gauge higher pipe each 15com long cut a 3cm washer from the pipe your working with & fill the smallest diameter pipe with something like hard set expander foam to make it ridged then glue the washer you cut to middle & once its set cut a guide grove into it down to washer at least 1mm idealy 2mm thick(use the highest thickness inter pipe u can if using expander foam if filling with epoxy its thickness wont matter)glue the larger gague pipe over the top you have a ridged socket that each of your arms will fit into, glue the bottom arm in and put a small screw through upper lam in line with the grove 1cm up, then cut away screw on outside so its flush with lam & file screw to length/size/into a smooth stud inside lam to make sure you dont get any movement in arm & should have a solid fold away PVC bow :) puuurffect for survival :P
That black pipe looks so good! That beast looks more like a crossbow prod than a bow! Thanks for filming for us, Nick. It's good to see your work here. Keep 'em coming :)
You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Mr.congratulations, nice bow, next pruve it works.
Thank you for watching! I need to get this bow in the hands of somebody who can shoot it well. I think youtube.com/@HistoricalWeapons?si=fUuh-a_dKc8Yh1gG can handle it.
I've never laughed that loud before watching you pull that bow. I could feel my bones creaking as you did that. I can't wait for your videos on building PVC exercise equipment. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Amazing channel.
This is impressive and excellent...this bow is beyond the capabilities of any average individual. This will take some serious training to master the use of....awesome build...thankyou very much for this. I am learning lots in the building of it !!
That is some amazing bow. I am amazed the pvc can handle that.
I really like the look of the black PVC.
Thanks! I really like it, probably my favorite of the Formufit colors.
Kevin you come a long way. Good for you
Awesome Nick. Been waiting for this one.
An absolute beast of a bow, what a good channel
Definetly! Thanks for watching!
I’ll be dusting off my flattening jig now. Don’t know I’ll go as crazy as 100lb but a 70lb trainer would be great to keep the arms and back in shape during the winter months.
So glad you’re back dude.
If your draw length is 28", this bow at 52" will draw around 70 pounds. Thank you for watching!
What a nice piece of art
Thank you!
Great video and tons of knowledge nuggets on the build. Thanks man you are appreciated.
You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Can't wait to see that beast shoot
Good job man! Beautiful piece of work.
Thank you!
Beautifully done!
Thanks for watching!
Turkish Bow is the best.
Awesome job! Great vídeo, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I wanna see you make a scythian style bow, or atleast a bow which recurves at the handles, I love bows with that distinct m/w shape when strung.
Thanks for the suggestion and for watching! Definitely have to do a video on one of those.
He has a video from a few years ago on one
Best pvc boyer on UA-cam by far!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
I am going to copy it ASAP
Your craft have improved a loot ;) !!!
Love this content
So amazing bow.😃
Thank you!
That ones gotta be a beast! Nice one, Nick!
Thanks for watching!
looks good to me thanks keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and thank you for sharing
Love you man
Great work!
Thank you!
I saw a japanese makes perfect casting for bows, the recurves are brilliant that way, also a request please show a pulley system recurve bow of pvc🙏
Really nice!
Thank you!
A few more information I need like building the jig and where your putting the edge of the pvc to the end of the jig as well
Sweet!
i like the tip shape, the reason historical tips where shape they are is the material dynamics of material used it follows that pvc would have a different tip shape to go with its material property's
very cool bow, i could see having some pvc pipe blanks in my workshop just to have for ppl use to make a first bow with after watching this
ps when stringing heavy bows its easier to have a long cord through both knocks you can stand on with both feet, string bow ready like you had it then pull up on bow stretching it with long cord and slip the bow string on pull long cord out
also your weighing is the hard way, you can put the bow on 2 pegs and pull it down with a winch running around a pully on floor or wall it you have pegs in wall
also if you make your siya section even more ridged maybe glue and bind a 10cm strip 3mm by 1cm of steel to back of siya with a leather bridge to make it fully ridged and youll get more leverage on draw/make it easier to draw, if the tip shape gets to you (i didnt mind it i quite like its shape), you could also make it look traditional/point it with the steel reinforcement to back it up
(although entire dynasty's in china had broad tiped siya sections so it is also traditional shape for some eras to have close to what you have. if you put a decorative brass sea shell or something on siya tip it would be pretty similar look slightly shorter same kinda poundage as warbows in at least 1 or 2 eras in china asia & middle east)
A few years ago I was messing with pvc, inspired by nick. I built a two piece, 1"pvc, 65lb reflex/deflex bow. It took almost six months before it blasted back in my face.
I fd up the center. Mia Culpa.
Wow, crazy! Did one of the nocks break? Thank you for watching!
@@BackyardBowyer no it was at the breaking point where I did the split. It was a piss poor job on my part. Since then I've built a ton of seventeen and twenty five pound bows for family and friends. None of them have any experience. So I keep them light.
Qty SUPER "chulada " congratulations
I like this 👍🏹
I will make this Simple turkish bow and put it into crossbow
Dude you just got my sub because of how happy you are doing this shit. Hell yea man. And the bows badass too. Keep doing what makes you smile my dude.
Thank you for subscribing and watching!
That’s awesome
Thank you!
How the heck did you manage to get 100lbs out of only PVC, this is one of the greatest achievements in the PVC Bowyer world.
I know right such skills man is unreal
Howdy Nick have a Nice day great work keep it up 👏👏
Have a nice day as well. Thanks for watching!
@@BackyardBowyer no problem its a joy to watch your video’s
I made 2 of them and I had trouble getting it straight. there was side to side flex where the handle was thinned. I'm sure if I get one straight that I'll enjoy it but I suppose a jig would help.
Magnificent
Thank you!
Thank you for showing how it done.
I was thinking about a plastic tube and fiberglass build by adding the fiberglass rods used for "refective" driveway makers that you stick in the ground.
They are very long and thin but very flexible and springy.
Adding them to a plastic tube bow might be a game changer.
What do you think about adding two or three of these to the inside of a flattened tube?
Nick be going big brain
Thank you for watching!
Love what you are doing. Also glad you are still building. You are a master at this craft. I've built several 1in and 1-1/4 inch long bows and recurves love them all. Always wanted a bit more though. Now you have shown me the way sir and I will try to make and make hopefully make the bow of my dreams for hunting. If I can't get it right? If possible I'll ask for the master to build one for me.
That's awesome! Thank you for watching!
Insane Awesome Nick!!
Can ya add a mew string just an inch longer and restring for smooth draw? 😊😀
I think I'd prefer a Yumi or English warbow for something with that kind of pull.
But. Dang. Cool cool. Cool cool cool.
Where do you find furniture grade pvc? I noticed you've been using it in your videos as of late.
Black ABS sewage pipe is probably what he means by making outdoor ft I think.
It has UV light resistance that PVC pipe dose not. Also gray garden plastic pipe has UV light resistance. But I like the black. It is shiny so for hunting I would wrap it in some dull cloth or camouflage.
Nice video man
Thank you!
Hi Nick...out of the several bows you have made so far, what may be the percentage of those that snapped due to normal use...no excessive draw.
Esta. bonito
That was beautiful, good job man
Thank you!
Nice and good work Nick !
Where is the video or finally you fire the beast?
ua-cam.com/video/khq1rGvlakg/v-deo.html I had filmed a video of shooting the bow, though I may not have posted it up as I can't find it. I had injured myself during the shoot. So it may never have made it onto youtube.
Hi nick,do you sell the bows you make
Great video Nick. Thanks for sharing. Did you use any kind of template to make sure the recurves match,or did you just do it by sight?
I do not use templates. I used to go by pictures of existing bows or sketches of my own designs but now it's almost always by sight. Thank you for watching!
The bowyers' master is back
I never thought that such a powerful bow could be made from PVC pipes
Damn, that looked tough to draw! The furniture-grade PVC makes some cool looking bows though.
Thank you! I really like the way the furniture grade looks. I just managed to draw almost 27 inches!
Glad to see you are back on youtube making quality content Nick. Hope your channel becomes as popular as it used to be. Best of luck 👍
Nick where can I get the furniture grade pvc?
I tried to build the horse bow which has a lot of bends that's impossible with a mold! So if your making one of those then build a wood frame to lock it in while it hardens otherwise you'll never get it straight. I was so excited to build one and I love this guy! He is good and I love his videos. I really needed a hobby and thought I could build this being a master builder and all. There isn't anything I can't do if I put my mind to it. But this bow looks easy so may try this one. May look the best but I'm sure it works. I just wanted a really nice one.
Where do you get the furniture grade PVC?
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Hey nick, I'll be going today for getting a pipe. what should i tell the shopkeeper, i mean the specifications of pipe ?
thanks
Do you unstring your bow, or is pvc ok to leave strung up
Man it looks really good. Nose job man 👍👍
Thank you!
Awesome video man! What kind of arrows do you use for heavy bows like that? Homemade kine or are there store bought that are heavy enough to absorb the energy?
I use driveway markers. They are heavy and stiff, most 5/16" rods I've tested are in the 100-130 spine range and around 1,000 grains. I also make stiff bamboo arrows that weight closer to 700 grains.
I have some green 32mm (1 and a quarter inch) PVC pipe that I wanted to use for recurve, but it does not get soft enough (becomes just a bit flubby) to be workable after 20 minutes of heating in an aluminium row I have made. How long do You actually heat Your PVC with 930 F degrees heat gun?
I have tried making it but for some reason it just collapses.. note though that i have used 38mm white pipe. In the past years i have followed your videos with impressive results. I actually made a long bow with tapered tips which were cut in the middle to form a triangle, which measures 6ft in length with about 120lbs @28" with gray 40mm diameter gray pipe 3mm thickness.. i really wanted to do this one.. although i do not understand the difference between upvc and pvc.. i think the problem lies in the fact that upvc might be different? Please elaborate
quality of PVC is so good that makes the bow reach 105lbs
Good brother bow but you look hard to peel but you have to shoot it's scary good job as always get that good greetings
Can grey pvc electrical conduit be used
Hermoso 🏹🏹🙏👍
Like many others I see you are using furniture pvc now have you ever tried HDPE pipe? we have cattle hay rings out of HDPE and it resists extreme weather both hot and cold. It bends without heat also but wondering about using it to make a bow with.
Odysseus would be proud
That is just beautiful, I love it. Concerning arrows, in general, do you think it would be safe or practical to make arrows using pvc of smaller diameter?
Pvc doesn’t get quite thin enough for arrows I don’t think. Even 1/2 inch pipe is just a tad too thick on the outer wall, and warbow weight wood arrows are like half an inch thick in diameter.
There is a 1/4" PVC that would work, but it is heavy and flexible so not great for heavy bows. Fiberglass driveway markers spine (measurement of flex) around 100-130 pounds and weight close to 1,000 grains. I've shot them with great results from warbows and fishing bows.
@@BackyardBowyer Huh, I hadn't thought to use driveway markers but I'll have to go cut some down later and try them on the longbow since it's only about 50lbs. For PVC arrows, I was thinking more along the lines of cheap and durable arrows for my nephew to use for practice with his 15lb youth bow. Although, the arrows I made for him using dowel rods are pretty dang cheap and they last him a while so I suppose it's more an experiment idea than anything. Thanks for the reply!
@@Gamerdude535 I certainly wouldn't try making warbow arrows with PVC, I prefer to stay out of hospitals and for my hands to be free of plastic shards lol
Man this guys creations are so amazing how he doesn’t have 1million subscribers yet is insane
Thank you for watching!
You are looking great man, I see you lost a lot of weight, but it seems that weight is the only thing you lost, cause your content still has that awesomeness to it
Thanks buddy, will you make shooting videos with this bow?
Yes! I can get a 26" draw out of this bow so far. That's about 90-95 pounds. Thanks for watching!
Great tutorial! Very detailed. Have you ever tried using steam instead of a heat gun? I've used a simple valet clothing steamer (like some hotels used to offer) to make some some wild bends in 3/4" sch 40 in the past. It worked like magic, as the steam could soften about 1.5-2 ft of the the PVC to "limp noodle" flexibility in under a minute and never burned or cracked the pipe because the steam, though extremely hot, was also moist, keeping the pipe from drying out. It also heated the pipe evenly as it was heated from the inside, which also prevented finger prints messing up the exterior .
I'd imagine you could prob. make a similar one simply with an old pressure cooker with a 1/2' copper pipe fitting threaded into the lid. All you gave to do, once the water gets to a full rolling boil, is put the end of the pipe you want to shape over the 1/2" stub sticking up for 30-120 seconds, (depending on the pipe diameter and wall thickness your working with) & and twist or bend like spaghetti! (almost ;-)
If you decide to try doing shaping this way remember a couple safety points.
#1 that steam is HOT! Hotter than the air coming out of your heat gun & because it's carried in the moisture of the water. The heat will, therfore, remain in the pipe longer, so you'll have longer working time, but youll need to wear gloves and proper PPE!
#2 to minimize splash out of boiling water , only fill the water level up half way in the pot as to minimize boiling water drops.
#3 Use cloth gloves if you can, as leather gloves can disintegrate and turn to goo when exposed to steam (think hide glue) and will get all over your work. I used a thick pair of cloth garden gloves over cloth jersey gloves.
I hope you get a chance to give this method a try as it'll save you a LOT of heating time compared to a heat gun. (+ simple hot plates are WAY more durable that heat guns! i'm sure, given the number of bows you've built , you've had to replace or repair at least one of those HF specials cuz I've gone through like 4 of em since I started watching you. Haha :-)
Great comment. Im broke and im looking for ways to bend pvc without heat gun
@@hoangminhpham7821 Heat guns are like 20 bucks on Amazon.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 yeah im literally a student in Vietnam 😢 and i managed to use fire as an alternative and it worked out pretty ok
@@hoangminhpham7821 Glad to hear.
What do u do with these bows ?
Oh, damn, I have made several 3/4" pvc using your instructions on the book, they shoot incredibly well for some time but eventually they break after or little after 600 shots (I count the shots to evalluate durability).
Since I have double checked everything, like measurements and still didn't work, I assumed it was due to the pvc wall thickness which is 2mm. According to the book, that is probably the reasons, since 2mm is more prone to breaking.
So I have tried to solve the issue by putting a tube inside a tube, like a 1/2" pipe inside a 3/4" one, to add thickness. It seemed to work for a while, I was very happy, but then, they broke on the handle.
I reinforced the handle with aluminium tubes from arrows. It worked but then, the point of breakage has changed from the middle of the handle to just after the aluminium tube ended...
Please, somebody help me! It is much more frustrating when the work is almost done but doesn't work yet than when we failed right from the start.
Is there a way to make the bows work with 2mm pvc (the only tube I can buy where I live)? Maybe inserting foam inside, maybe another layer of pvc outside?
I thank you already for the help!
André, from Brazil
Do you do the hammer test?
Why not line it with fibreglass drywall tape and then glue that to the bow with resin that should give plenty strenghth and also should stop any splinters should it break.
Is it possible with a bow that’s about 63 inches long to get around that draw weight
I know your specialty is pvc bows but I think you should make a full composite of this draw weight.
Can i use sch 80 instead of sch 40?
105 lb I couldn't even pull that back what a strong bow👍
It's got some pull to it! Thanks for watching!
Can you do a componed bow?
Where can I find furniture grade pvc?
Couldn’t you avoid misalignment and form a handle at the same time if you just made a mold out of two vertically screwed in 2x4’s to press the handle section down into while you make the arms of the bow? That way, once you do one side, the handle just slides in and you’re automatically aligned for the next arm?