Can Apes Really "Talk" To Humans?
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2017
- What can we learn from the controversial history of ape language research?
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Contribute to a really cool experiment - see if you can interpret chimpanzee gestures!:
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Here's a good overview of the ethical and scientific questions around Kanzi and Koko:
www.slate.com/articles/health_...
Here's Herbert Terrace's famouse Science paper:
www.columbia.edu/cu/psychology...
The contentious back and forth between Terrace and Penny Patterson
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One of Terrace's students takes on Patterson's claims:
www.sciencedirect.com/science/...
A blistering assessment of Terrace's work from moral philosopher Peter Singer:
www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/...
Evidence that bonobos have mental representations of words:
link.springer.com/article/10....
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"GIVE ORANGE ME GIVE EAT ORANGE ME EAT ORANGE GIVE ME EAT ORANGE GIVE ME YOU"
Love him or hate him hes spitting straight facts
NovanoDelta Yes, He needs 4 Oranges and one hug, santa would love to do it for him :)
Jäger LMAO
hahahahahahah
Is that Trump tweet ?
her* (sorry ik this is late oof)
"give me Y O U"
demands must be met
I shall sacrifice my body to nim
HELP THE APE IS
@@lucaledd xd
pick up lines
Booty warrior
5:01
Literally crying, his words were so tender and graceful. He really touched my heart.
Yes
I think it really says a lot about the current political and economic state of America
GIVE ME YOU 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAO i thought that part was edited to be longer and the original would be “you give me eat orange” or something 💀
Guess I underestimated the power of ape
Sun Tzu has been quiet since this dropped
“Nim’s longest recorded sentence was-“
*here we go.*
👊
I believe Perry Farrell also said this..
"give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you."
-Albert Einstein
Reading this makes me smarter already
i feel like these 9000 iq plays
of among us
@@ghostnappa7318 AMONG US 🕷🤧
Mario’s time machine
Thing said "give me orange" when it wanted a fkn orange. Im sold.
Level Nine Drow
What the fuck are you talking about, nothing about religious people were brought up in this video at all and it was clearly explained that people stopped believing in this shit cos of skeptics from actual psychologists, blaming religious people is just so ignorant
@@thirdocean3784 He does have a point though! Most religious people attempts a clear division between "human" and "animal". And what does psychologist know? That's pseudo science (just like Freud et al). Ask biologists, geneticists and linguists instead... or intelligent people in general (able to think both openly and critically) that actually study animals for years and therefore can analyse their behaviour better than many narrow minded "experts".
Level Nine Drow nah that monkey just learned that if he signed that, he'd get food so he did it, he was surviving not learning fuckin language
It's not so simple, that's just one interpretation of his behavior. Dogs and rats can be taught to ring bells to get food. Maybe this ape is "ringing a bell" in her use of these words. A true use of language would probably involve understanding that the word "orange" is a label for a fruit. It could
Maybe apes are understanding and participating in language. But I don't think signing for an orange is a clear cut green light for that posit.
@Level Nine Drow Not write a Shakespearian play, but construct/decrypt ideas. That is, true understanding, and not training.
Also, there is nothing wrong with having religious beliefs; only if you personally reject religious ideas can you say there's something wrong about it. Otherwise, it would be like saying "they have philosophical beliefs", etc..
Animals ARE different from humans. That's evident, otherwise, tell me which animals have made a Constitution, built a spaceship, write a book, etc...? Obviously no animals have done so; if you want to claim there's no difference between animals and humans you would be doing so from an ideological position disparaging universal and self-evident human experience.
It's obvious that animals can communicate rudimentary feelings, but to say that they have language, it's linguistically a very far leap to make, and I would propose a counter to you: It seems to me that you want to make animals and humans the same so you can justify an ideological position, even though your own personal experience is radically contrary to such a notion.
Meanwhile, in another universe: Can humans really "talk" to apes?
You mean in the future ?
Planet Of The Apes in a nutshell
can talk really "human" to apes?
@@sakudapikora7545 Yoda?
human can "apes" talk really to?
"Me eat, time eat." Will go down as the most impactful quotes to ever exist
Psychology: “Having a large vocabulary makes you more attractive”
Me asking out my crush: 5:06
I did the same thing a few years ago. We are now married and expecting a child
Do you mean married? Because martied means to be drunk and cheat just saying
@@itzasup5005 .
@@OutlawAnimations ye married lol
Lol, I'm going to have to try that one
6:36 Oh my God whose bright idea was it to give him a knife
this is how it begins...
XD
Relax she has a shield. +100 HP
Wait A Minute...
Thus, sauda was invented
"They look for cues in the trainer's body language, or mimic gestures. Apes weren't using language like we would... they just wanted to get food and affection."
I'm certain this is what 99.999% of humans do.
That’s what I said! 😂
If only that was the case we wouldn't have been fighting so many wars.
@@SujalRajput10 wars happen because we look for things we like, like power, money and to spread our ideals, wich leads to food and social dominance. We're not that different from other species. It gets really complex as we have a more complex social structure but that's kinda the base yknow.
@@jacomvs8607
I am not justifying war by any means, but some of the earliest human fossil show evidence of violence.
In fact, when surveying a new site one the very first thing an archaeologist will look for is weapons.
War has been around as long as humans came to be.
Even other apes, have been find to engage in act of murder, just for revenge and homicide. There is definitely some link between intelligence and aggression.
Some links to actual footage-
ua-cam.com/video/4XP6T1CMgBQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/BVAiY1kLTUE/v-deo.html
Yeah I don't understand why people think this isn't talking
Koko did join concepts. She once signed “ape together strong” and “puny human society will burn” . Also she admitted to thinking that Ed Sheeran seems like he tried too hard and that his music is 7/10 at best. She was a fascinating creature.
😂😭
Lucky for us, she died before the Harambe incident.
@@MrWorshipMe after*
@@rachelleleva5794 wow, I thought she died a long time ago, since the movies with her are so old... Just now realized she only died less than 2 years ago... Still, must have been too old to mobilize the Gorilla forces against us.
@@MrWorshipMe lol
GIVE ORANGE ME
"Give me orange"
GIVE EAT ORANGE
"Orange the food"
ME EAT ORANGE
"I can eat / want to eat orange"
GIVE ME EAT ORANGE
(An emphasis of previous points)
GIVE ME YOU
"Thank you."
man speaks ape
Ape language
Give me you i think is more you give me
Last bit is a stretch. I think he was just asking the human (you) to give the orange.
hell yea dude
I went to Iowa State for Linguistics and got to meet Kanzi in the Ape Cognition and Conservation Initiative and I brought him some pine needles which I read he likes to play with and he straight up made a "pog" face in surprise then used his lexigram to ask for other things cuz he made the connection that if I could bring him those I could bring him other stuff. He even gave me directions to where they keep the food and other gifts in the building. I later got to play with him as he ran from side to side I would run along with him and we would tackle the glass in the middle (he strong af) in a game he simply called "chase". He also pointed to the "chase" lexigram then did a kind of specific hand clap until I mimicked it in response. Later he only used the hand clap to mean "chase" cuz he wasnt always near the lexigram. I am typing this while I have one of his finger paintings on my wall as well. Argue all you want about was it language or not, but it definitely was the highest level of communication with an animal I had ever experienced. Due to COVID tho, I probably wont get to meet him again as the place closed down to visitors. But I will always think of Kanzi as a good friend.
I have seen Kanzi on the TV and talk about intelligent, such a smart cookie, I bloody love him ❤️🇬🇧
He made the poggers face?
@@adrianopandolfo monke pog.
The clap/chase part is so so interesting to me!!! That's incredible!!!
"Nim Chimpsky" is such an underrated name omg
the answer is clear: we must learn ape.
Monke uprising
Reject modernity, embrace monke
blueshirttial: Don't you mean "apeanese"?!
@ monkenese
Reject modernity, embrace monke
When he said “give me orange me give eat orange give me eat orange give me you”...i felt that
*d e e p*
😩😪😔🥺
on a spiritual level
People think theyre smarter than animals, and expect them to learn our complicated language. When they do learn our language, people doubt them. But if the role were reversed, those same people will have no idea and zero clue how to communicated in the animals language. So who is really dumb here?
Tigre Monster True. The way they reason and process info is also different. But our language also has a lot of terminology that animals simply won’t understand and won’t be able to use in sentences properly.
“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reasons.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Monke: Give me eat orange
Human: Give me eat orange
🤔
Shouldn’t the question be first “how does an ape think?” Then move to “how can we get an ape to think like us?”
The secondary question the latter is why should we make them think like us?
SquidlyTV EXACTLY! Lol
Trashcan Mucous that’s why I trained my cat to scratch my back. Why the hell should she get all the attention!
Luke Redder I bet your backs all fucked up now
Rocatex the scars heal, it’s cool
4:59 Is what you came for.
Thank you, Ludwig showed us a gem
Lmao Carson stream people here :)
I unironically am watching this I watched a 10 sec clip of the orange thing a while ago though
My hero
"The ape wasn't using the language, just getting what they wanted out of it" Yeah thats me studying italian
The best evidence I heard about Koko being intelligent was when she was asked to smile for a photo, she made the sign "smile" with her hands and frowned with her lips. This wasn't an attempt to get treats from the researchers, this was an instance of her knowing what was being asked of her and being a little smart-alec about it, just like a human child might.
Oh my gosh thats adorable
What a gamer
@@TheSexiestGoblin Koko is an epic 420 gamer confirmed 2020?? (Not clickbait)
Dexter Badger AJ monkey epic gamer 2020 god gaming pro confirmed?
Well think ab it like this. She associates the gestures with the words she says. So when she hears smile she’s gonna gesture smile because that’s what she was taught. She didn’t understand what she was smiling for exactly she just knew that when her trainer says smile to do that gesture. The last word “for a photo” completely went over kokos head so therefore it’s not proof at all
Eminem: "you can rhyme lots of words with orange"
Nim: *"hold my banana"* *_"give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you"_*
this made me kackle like a witch
cackle**
Makes more sense than some popular songs I've heard.
give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you
“Door hinge”
6:48 My man/ape literally did what he was asked for, what more do ya want?
Fun Fact: Koko once ripped a sink out of a wall and blamed a Kitten.
Did it actually happen or is it just a hear say
@@dr.science_0177 she did damage a sink but that’s all. She had absolutely no concept of language, never mind abstract thoughts and blaming cats for things
the just wanted food and affection? join the club kids, that's what all humans do anyway.
I was thinking the same thing! We want that too! These chimps were signing asking for, "Hug. Nim. You hug. Me." Asking for hugs and food. That's pretty normal and I'm not surprised at all considering that they're related to us.
But humans are more apt to try to gain ultimate power, rule the world, have money, let alone excess of money that they would never spend in a lifetime just to have it, ect. Things that apes have no use for.
Where exactly do I sign up to join???
Omega Fury: ALL people, including white people, are classified as apes by scientists so your attempt to disparage black people is a huge fail you racist moron.
I think you might be reading too into their comment. They just said that we have the same basic wants as any social animal. Not that they're just as mentally complex as we are.
People in dark web be like: 5:06
Holy fuck thats good
tfw you're discounted.
nice one xD
😂
*give me*
ÿœū
Just the fact that the Apes were able to associate a symbol that doesn't even look like whatever it is that's pretty intelligent
6:35 there's nothing more terrifying than a great ape holding a kitchen knife
How about a great ape holding an Ak47 😶🌫️
And every evening Koko would go back to her room, shake her head and say, "I've been trying to teach those hairless apes how to speak Gorilla for years now, and it seems they will never learn it! Koko sad and wants a kitten."
NO KOKO NO!
Fr dude was prolly talkin shit and the trainers just like “Koko want hug, me sad!?!?”
Koko’s internal conversation:
“….And STILL they got me a lousy stuffed toy first, after I clearly indicated I want a kitten…. so I had to explain the whole thing all over again to them. I sometimes wonder if these humans will EVER learn…. Or maybe it is just something that goes way above their intellectual capabilities and we are going to have to learn to accept those limitations of the human species”
"he uses them to get things he likes"
Don't humans do the same?
the only difference being it's not only food and affection.
@@ichangedmynamebecauseitwas620 it is as a baby or toddler
Not quite. We as humans express ideas. "Food, orange, you, me" could be said to be an idea but it's a very weak idea at that; it expresses not only simple stuff, but at its bottom expresses nothing else that can be expressed by them grabbing an orange from a person and eating it.
We as humans can use language in order to construct spaceships or write a Constitution, to write fiction, etc..., there are various differences between such simple communication and language.
cooolloooll exactly! That’s what I’m saying!
Natanael Lizama There was a time in the past where simple languages was used by humans. It took humans many thousands or millions of years to form a complex language. Languages as well as anything in life evolved through time. For a human and a gorilla or any prime mate to even communicate in these levels is remarkable. Don’t question other living beings intelligence just because you don’t understand them.
why is everyone talking about Nim with the "give me orange" while I'm talking about Kanzi with the *"Blueberry BLUEBERRY BLUEBERRY"*
_"Huh! This ape can't use language, it can only use various signs and gestures to communicate what it wants! Toootally not language!"_
-All Knowing Language Definer and Science Person-
Yeah this is hilarious. People speak to get food and they "just combine words" to get new meanings. Scepticism is essential, but this was like "You want this ape to speak. I do not".
There is a lot more to language than doing stringing together some symbols to get a bit of a larger meaning. The entire field of linguistics studies that. And all the known human languages (obviously not the made up ones) are way more complex than that.
Just to give an example. If a fly flies towards food that a gesture which shows that it wants to eat or lay eggs. But I'm pretty sure you wouldn't count that as language. If you tap on the floor to signalize that you want a bunny to come here then that is communicating. But it isn't really a language.
The last example shows a bit more clearly what the monkey can do or not. He can definitely understand nouns. Like blueberry and refrigerator. What I can't say from that short clip is if he understands the verb "put" or if if he just knows that the only thing you can do with blueberry and refrigerator is that you put one into the other.
I will now examine what someone can understand in the sentence "can you put the blueberries into the fridge"
the position of can = asking someone to do something. Being polite. Most likely he won't understand that.
you = the person is speaking to you. how would he react to "can he put the blueberries into the fridge?" Answer would be yes and not to put blueberries into the fridge.
put = verb, an specific action. For example if I said "can you eat the blueberries and the fridge" will he also put the blueberries into the fridge?
the = is most likely something he won't understand. What's the difference between a blueberry or the blueberry or three blueberries?
blueberry and fridge = those are the two words we can almost be certain he understands.
into = shows direction. we can't really tell from the sentence alone if he understands those kinds of words. My guess is no, but I can be wrong. Can he differentiate from the sentence alone if it is into, out of, on top of and so on.
In conclusion communication and language have a different definition. Something needs a certain level of complexity when it comes to semantics, syntax and grammar to be called a language. Stringing together nouns and verbs doesn't reach the definition of language.
I hope you understand why scientists don't really call every form of communication language.
@@benrex7775 Seems like asking "can apes use tools" and concluding they can't because they don't understand the inner workings of a car... apes like koko can communicate their thoughts using abstract things like sounds or images or gestures, which is all that language really is. you wouldn't say an unintelligent person is incapable of using language because you aren't satisfied with what they say...
@@Justin-tp1mx Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you.
@@benrex7775 That sentence is full of meaning and is probably perfectly correct in the simplied language he was taught. Translated, it means "Give the orange to me. I will eat the orange. You, give me the orange so I can eat it." If i said "donnez-moi l'orange, je le mangerai" you wouldn't say i cant use language
“..That doesn’t mean this dog understands English.”
Dog: *Slowly turns to look at camera confused.*
LMAO deadass my dog just did that😭
I believe they do understand english but choose to hide it
Dogs can understand a little bit of English though
bruh imagine being an ape trying to understand our language:
human: "can you put the pineneedles in the refrigerator"
ape: "lady wtf are you talking about"
“What the fuck could this possibly accomplish”
Dude was prolly like “You don’t even look like me” “ what are you even saying!” “Is this thing trying to speak to me or...”
Don't be foolish enough to think primates will ever think or talk like human beings fer crissake! They're further back in the evolutionary tree, they just don't have the IQ. BUT, given their position in evolution they're pretty damned smart!
Horace Hogsnort I agree that they don’t have IQ but they aren’t “further back” on the evolutionary tree. We evolved from a common ancestor with chimpanzees, not from modern chimpanzees. They evolved too, just not in the same direction we did
@ "further back in the evolutionary tree" that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works xD
man i was looking for this research for so many year, i saw this when i was young... thank you buddy
Gorillas in the wild actually use sign language to communicate, so it's not a far fetch that Koko and Michael were able to use a mixture of ASL and what Penny Patterson called gorilla sign language, since some ASL signs were too difficult for them due to anatomical differences. The article "Actually Koko could talk" addresses a lot of the criticism. In addition, the research done by Japanese primatologists on apes' intelligence, memory and language skills shouldn't be ignored.
The problem is Patterson’s claims about what Koko could do are highly questionable. She has never released any raw data or video evidence of Koko signing the way she claimed.
5:01 *harvard wants to know your location*
This was probably the most funniest comment i've ever seen. 😂
Okay that was actually good
@@noahrenschler2130 lmao fuck outta here
@@timothybryce1948 hahaha
@@noahrenschler2130 Hahahahahahaahahahaha
Actually Koko often combined concepts to express new ones she didn't have the vocabolary for. If I'm not wrong she signed "finger bracelet" to express ring.
which is exactly what I've done would do if I was in Koko's situation
She did but scientists don’t like to think that any kind of animal can actually communicate; it would make experimenting on them/ pouring chemicals into their eyes less “morally ambiguous”
And an orangutan named Chantak call water bottles “car water” since his trainer is always taking one out of her car
She called a watermelon a "water fruit." too.
She also knew how to sign sadness when her cat friend died, during the emotion of it. Surely practicing the association from an emotion to a word is what creates the gesture to create the meaning.
4:59 You can hear him holding back laughter.
1:50 Doggo had the "WTF, hooman? I understood you. & you just called me dumb on video to be uploaded on internet? I'll pee in your shoes, you insulting hooman." look. LoL
i heard when kanzi was asked to "put water on the carrot" he threw the carrot outside in the rain
I love animals so much
LOOOOL fucking DUMBASS
Hahaha well played by kanzi xD cause throwing a carrot in the rain will definetly "put water on the carrot"
Well that's his water supply
thats so fucking clever. humans wouldnt think of that answer
"These are amazing, intelligent animals who do communicate a lot in their own way, and maybe if I stop wanting them to be furry, little humans, I might really get to know them"
Well said
yes
Well I saw this comment then it got synchronize with the video in end
@rapture ocotber 16, 2021 nice information
Nobody:
Them: Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you
Absolutely. A recent example is the gorilla mom showing her baby to a human mom. They comminicate maybe we are not listenin
4:59 Nims Longest Recorded Sentence meme (Your welcome)
Great informative video, keep it up
You need to see Koko’s reaction to when she was told her cat died or how she desires to be a mother. She expresses emotion, yeah maybe not to human level, but it’s a lot more than just asking for food.
Her friend Mike recalls how his mother was shot and had a her throat cut by poachers, “bad men kill mother loud sharp noise, cut throat” he’s not saying that just to get an orange.
also the fact that when koko heard that robin williams died, she sad still for hours with a quivering lip
Cmon bad men kill my mother. It's so obvious researchers made it up to make a point.
@@igor6815 bruh what?
@@igor6815 if she understands the concept of killing, the concept of bad, and the concept of human, she can express the idea of a bad man killed her mother
@@Slothi_Deathi Think the point is that if she's been conditioned to repeat those words in exchange for something, then it's not an expression of an idea or an original thought or emotion.
"ME EAT, TIME EAT."
can't argue.
I think he means I want to eat, is it time to eat?
"i want to eat its time to eat."
I want to eat time
@@loog8621 yes
@Raihan Nafis nah i rather believe they want to eat time and cause a rupture in reality
If Washoe signed "water" and "bird" at the swan, wouldn't that still mean he knew sign language?
If the sign is correct then it should be seen as credible. If he didnt get it, he would have signed random things. He didn't.
Washoe was female.
Also the video says they suspect she was pointing out water and the bird separately.
@@Keaze Thanks. I thought I heard "he" though.
Rob Ingersoll pretty much convinced me.
It means she had an association for water and for birds. It's a leap to suggest she was saying "water bird"
We can teach lots of animals to make associations between actions, like sitting when they hear "sit" or reacting to other signals. This isn't demonstrably different.
doesnt matter. because its not humans that are being judged. its the animal. either way the animal shows comprehension of sign language. and even if it points at seperate concepts (water and bird) it is still correct. since a swan... usually sits on water.
To be fair koko's gorilla companion Michael or Mike (unsure which one) recounted sounds and things he saw when recalling what happened to his mother
Amazing video man :)
5:01 me trying to reach the minimum word count in an essay but I’m too stupid to say anything intelligible
Very funny and original 10/10.
Lol, that's kinda relatable 😂
How boys ask for orange: give me an orange
How girls ask for an orange:
@@cythism8106 I wish a girl would say "give me you" to me 😔
“Give me orange you” I think he wants to speak with the president
Lol
No, that would be "Give me lumpy orange you"
Haha orange man bad
@@karnewarrior orange man bad
I taught my cat "High five for Trump 20 20". Adorable, and smarter than any Dem. these days.
This is so interesting. I feel like these ape studies may have taught us more about our psychology than that of apes. Maybe we are hard wired to be optimistic about teaching language and connecting through verbal communication. We easily delude ourselves into seeing intelligence where there is none. It's probably an evolutionary advantage to overestimate the intelligence of others (and predators).
Nicely done video
I saw a video when a gorilla with sign language talked about his parents dying so I think they understand
Can you give me a link?
Daniel Antony its called Michael’s story
You're talking about Michael And you just made an ingenious point and the fact that you have very few likes lets me know you're smarter than the average human real talk, and well said.
@@danielantony1882 You'll find that under the documentary of koko.
Atomic Pressure Well I wouldn’t go that far but thanks for the compliment
"They just want affection and food"
So... just like humans?
Not really, humans do crave knowledge. You watched this video not to get any food or affection. You were curious. Other apes aren't really like that.
@@yomer355 So, problem-solving (just because it's regarding practical things) doesn't count as "curiosity"?
Just because "Food" is involved, means they somehow aren't Curious about how to get that food, when problem-solving?!...
That they don't crave the knowledge that would allow them to Get that food?!?
I've seen countless examples of Apes doing things merely out of curiosity... (and I don't just mean Curious George)
Chimps and Monkeys browsing through pictures on social media, just for one example...
Just because their thirst for knowledge isn't quite on the same scale as ours, and more often involves more primitive Practical things, doesn't mean they don't have any.
@@TechySeven ok, I agree, they do show some curiousity sometimes, but not nearly as much as humans.
@PewDie-Ton EX what do you mean by "smart"? How are dolphins and Neanderthals smarter than sapiens?
@PewDie-Ton EX so your arguments for dolphins and Neanderthals being smarter than us, is that "dolphins can possibly be more compassionate, than people", and that "Neanderthals had bigger brains"? Seems rather biased that you think that's enough to deem them smarter than us.
"Give me *YOU* " oh god he has a taste for blood
0:00 Intro Section
1:17 Gua
2:09 Viki
2:41 Washoe
3:30 Koko
4:00 *Nim*
5:38 Kanzi
dog: egyptian hieroglyphics
tickle: minecraft enchantment table
blueberry: ancient greek alphabet
yogurt: yogurt
monkey: orange
hotel: trivago
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Trivago: Hotel
@@Uncle_Hargle nooooooooooooo
5:01 he speaking the language of gods
mdr
dead ahaha
LMAO
Mour de rire?
@@ahuman318 mort de rire. You were close.
it starts at 4:49
Dude you had Mr Sapolsky as your professor, that is soo cool.
“They don’t understand you. They just learn to associate words with actions and objects.”
Is that not the definition of a freaking language?
You're missing the point, what they're saying is that a chimp might see an orange and will signalise it with a appropriate gesture, followed by "eat" to get it, but it's not the communication scientists were looking for, it was more like a cat meowing in a specific tone while sitting next to it's bowl, nothing really extraordinary in the animal world. What they would consider a breakthrough is if a chimp would see a watermelon after only eating oranges and, for example, look at the scientist and do signs for "orange" and "big" as if to use its knowledge of signs to explain it's confusion by this weird fruit that is shaped like an orange but way bigger in size. To communicate a thought rather than just using the trick they have taught him to get food, that is as impressive as a dog that brings a leash to his owner to signalise he wants to go for a walk, meaning not really impressive.
I hope I didn't make it too convoluted lmao
Not quite...
Why isn’t this top comment. It should be this, not “GIVE ORANGE.”
No, no it isn't! Language is much more than that.
@@rowanbcapr Because the comment is wrong...
when he said *GIVE ORANGE ME GIVE EAT ORANGE ME EAT ORANGE GIVE ME EAT ORANGE GIVE ME YOU*
I felt that😔😔
Lol
More wise words from the fbi
Time stamp?
@@Aaokke0 5:01
"Give orange me eat orange me eat orange give me orange give orange me give me you"
That was more emotional than the "I have a dream" speech
I like that final quote.
6:35 When he picked up that knife I felt like shit was gonna go bad
Same 😂🤣
its unlikely the monkey knows what a knife is let alone its potential as a weapon.
@@danroux4010
I'm actually quite sure he does. He probably considers it a fantastically sharp rock, and monkeys/apes know how to use sharp rocks to hit things with.
They have, in fact, taught apes how to knap stones like our ancestors did and from there how to use the resulting flakes and cores as very basic tools. A knife is just a refined version of a very basic tool. He might not know what it's made out of or quite grasp how sharp it is and why he oughtn't run with it, but he knows he can cut shit with it.
bro if an ape wants to kill a human it doesnt need a knife to do it
@@karnewarrior Some apes actually use large sticks, kind of like spears to hunt.
5:02 reminds me of the first time I tried to talk to a girl.
I hate this comment, i knew that if i clicked on the time stamp it would be the damn orange, but i clicked anyways in hopes that it wouldnt be. I was wrong GIVE ORANGE ME GIVE EAT ORANGE ME EAT ORANGE GIVE ME EAT ORANGE GIVE ME YOU
gedo0261 niga where tf else would he put a time stamp the fucking outro
@@gedo0261 ofcourse you hate it, ur a psycopath who cant understand humor.
itscold LMAO
Most replayed feature coming in clutch
Thanks brown eye's for the show
Koko asked for a kitten and was sad when she only got a toy kitten. When she then got a real kitten she was really happy and cared for that cat until it died. This clearly shows that she knew what she was aksing for and clearly knew what the stuff she said means.
True but a normal gorilla could tell something as lifeless like a toy cat from an actual cat
@@dr.science_0177 well yeah they would smell different but how would we know what a wild gorilla would think of it if its not a natural animal to that habitat or region then it would be clueless what it was you ever seen the video of the orangoutang have a saw contest with a robot one its interesting
Thats not communication though. My dog wags his tale on the wall next to my front door to symbolise him wanting to go on a walk. He's not understanding language.
@@jaredgarbo3679 nah he understands thats the way out and that if hes close to it you might notice and come over and get close to it too 😂😂🤟🏼
This comment doesn't make any sense. Literally no correlation
It's clear that they have some level of understanding, even if they're just using it to get what they want, if they didn't understand that at least they wouldn't use the signs at all, this is how evolution works, teach a male and female ape to sign, even if it's basic, their children will learn faster because it not taught by you, it's taught by the parents,,, you mention coco but there is another ape that those same people taught to sign and he was asked about his parents, he described the killings of his parents and the situation, in a very brief but direct manner, all the same, he said , noise, trouble, throat cut, this wasn't him trying to get something, he was describing a memory, is that not an understanding of the language?
Nath Rob I would love to watch parents teach there children sign language and watch as it goes on and how they would use it in packs
That takes much longer than one generation...
@@navarrmh8773 I never implied it would take one generation, the implocation was that it would be more effective to teach apes to communicate with us, that was obvious, stop trying to start shit..
I don't think this is how evolution works, but your point is still interesting. Do you remember the name of this other ape?
@@henrilemoine3953 Micheal was the other gorilla I believe
I think that nims longest sentence was asking for multiple oranges
5:00 is simultaneously incredibly funny and also really intimidating.
When he said "blueberry blueberry blueberry" I felt that
4:54 the moment we've been waiting for.
4:59 for the impatient ones.
@@thesandguardianofthesand not enough, 5:01
5:06 the terrifying one
@@thesandguardianofthesand yay
@@JoeMemes no is 7:43
"she was just signing "water" and "bird"!"
okay but that's still impressive! she looked at 2 things she didnt see before but recognized them both as water and bird. that's still pretty cool!
I like how a clip of this has more views than the original
"They only want to convey when they're hungry or want affection" .. Uh, yeah, sounds a lot like HUMANS to me. lmfao
That just sounds like a kid. "I want pizza! I want ice-cream! I want a toy!
@@stuff5757 yes but a kif grown up of it, learning other ways to express herself
A grown ape still talk like a kid
That whole complaint is disingenuous because there’s plenty of examples of apes talking about a lot more than just getting food. They can understand abstract concepts, share their emotions, and display sympathy.
Okay tell me when apes can actually understand the true meaning of what humans are saying to them and then I’ll believe it’s real til then I rest my case
@@TheFernandinho I'm not assigning this position to you, but I wonder if some would take that reasoning and consider human kids less inherently valuable than a grown adult ethically. Is there a difference cognitively between a young human child and one of these research apes? Interesting thought, one I wish i hadn't thought of, the possible outcomes seem too scary.
Give Orange
Me Give Eat Orange
Me Eat Orange
Give Me Eat Orange
Give Me Y O U
Oskidoodle IM DEAD 😂😂😂
Trump's latest tweet.
boutchie06 epic comment bro drumpf bad!!!
I laughed 😂😂😂
Isn't this what we all feel
I was trying to find the origin to the meme for a while I'm glad I found it
"Is it right to forever change the life of an ape who could live 50 years just to satisfy our curiousity?" Uh...Well yeah...Considering the alternative is most likely a horrible death by getting eaten by something or beaten to death by another ape, I'd say raising an ape like a human kid is a much preferred given a choice. I think animal activists conveniently forget this part of nature. Is it 'natural' to have an animal from the wild outside of it's habitat? Absolutely....But do you think if they knew that 99.9999999% of their kind meet a horrifically painful gruesome end in the mouth of a tiger they'd be like "Nah toss me in that jungle fam"?
2:38 HE DID THE WOAH
He predicted the future
Made me laugh, not just exhale air through my nose
shut up liberal
youre annoying please go away
i snorted
The video- A well made and thoughtful study on whether we can truly communicate with animals.
The comments- give me eat orange
Apes can understand what certain words mean just like dogs. It doesn't mean they understand it in a way they can make a sentence from it
lol exactly
Blueberry blueberryblueberry
@dead channel give me eat orange
@@mewmewkittens8486*give me you*
If apes had human brains, they could talk to us in vocal language, because they have vocal cords like us.
5:01 Straight up spittin
You cannot even have intelligent conversations with most people, so ...
People think theyre smarter than animals, and expect them to learn our complicated language. When they do learn our language, people doubt them. But if the role were reversed, those same people will have no idea and zero clue how to communicated in the animals language. So who is really dumb here?
Tigre Monster you
@@uwotm8153 If he's dumb, then what that makes of you?
@@tigremonster1645 Agreed, Idk If its just me but i get chills everytime i see this, it's awkward, i can't explain, its like looking at a mirror of some kind, those apes are not different from what we were some years ago, i just wonder what lucky event happened just so we can formulate our ideas into words but they can hardly do so...
@@snape539 an ubermensch genius
I remember a story about Koko, they had a hissy fit and ripped a sink out of the wall. When the zookeeper asked what happened, Koko tried to blame a kitten. Funniest shit I've heard in years.
no its not, Koko didnt even turn into a pickle
I'm unsettled everytime I see a chimp raised as a human ever since I learned about that one chimp-raised-as-a-child "incident". Absolutely terrifying.
It does seem very unscientific, not just in hindsight, but at the time. They knew enough (should have known) about anatomy to know that the chimpanzee physically was incapable of speech.
5:01 Man! That’s A Strong Message!
I Feel That!
I'd be fascinated to see the various 'talking' apes in a room together ( or possibly Via Skype for convenience) to get a window on what they'd have to say to each other. It would be incredibly eye opening to know how they'd communicate with the skills they've all been taught. Make it happen.
Lucille de Lorme Omg yes I need to see that happen
That would be something to see! I have a feeling, though, that they wouldn't bother. Why use an outside language to communicate with each other, when they can communicate with each other as they always have?
Same, sadly, both Koko and Chantek have died.
Maybe there is a reason it hasn't happened yet lucille..... they will take over. >_>
or just work on your 3rd eye open your crown chakra. You can hear thoughts then and you'll be able to communicate. It's there you know. Work on it
The urge us human have to make animals like us is really weird...
It's the same feeling as wanting to meet an alien species.
We want insight into the worlds of other animals. We want to understand them.
The only way we can understand them fully is to teach them language.
Imagine having a conversation with an ape. Walking down the street with him. You both walk past a female ape and he tells you that he has a crush on her. Or you play video games with him and you have a conversation about your favourite characters. It's an outlandish and probably impossible idea, but how interesting and cool would it be?
Well, considering the fact that humans are the most intelligent creatures, us trying to act like animals would be a step backward
I wish we could get them to like housework.
C'est d'la bonne Yeah, for example, when we arrive on somewhere unknown, where there are people who speak and act differently, we usually try to teach them how to do stuff our way
Well wouldn't it be interesting to be for say waiting for a bus and a bird flies down as you wait you can strike up a conversation etc x'D like how the early bird gets the worm :-p etc.
What do you think about those videos of dogs pressing buttons to form sentences?
5:01 I saw that on a meme compilation before and had no idea that it was from here, a pleasant surprise XD
Same
5:07 I was legitimately scared when he said GIVE ME YOU
I just took it as him asking "you" to give him an orange.
It's not rare in ASL to sign, when referring to something like "you", it somewhere at the beginning as well as at the end. Just reiteration.
He means Trump
@Apentogo HE MEANS TRUMP
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5:01 yo he spittin' bars
Kokomo did great with her sign language. And she could understand the English language perfectly. Michael the ape proved that when he over heard a conversation his caregivers was having and he was very upset and cried and threw stuff every where, the zoo that loned Michael to them wanted him back.
He heard them talking about it and he was very upset and didn't want to leave. Kokomo did very well in her language.
5:00 Pretty good attempt there to ask for an orange