Choosing an RPG Maker - from 2003 to MV

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  • @TeamUnpro
    @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +342

    I also forgot to mention RPG Maker XP's tileset system can have images as tall as you want so you can have an insane amount of tiles in 1 tileset.

    • @LunalovaniaGaming
      @LunalovaniaGaming 6 років тому +6

      TheUnproPro I'll see if I can make a few more thumbnails for ya when I have the time. 👍☺

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +4

      You're too kind and I have nothing to offer in exchange D:

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +2

      Hєαятlєѕѕ Aηgєl i tried lets plays before they never work out xD was planning on trying again but with rpg maker games only
      also ty

    • @LunalovaniaGaming
      @LunalovaniaGaming 6 років тому

      TheUnproPro maybe do a let's play of Yumi Nikki?? It's a great RPG maker game. Idk if you played it yet or not.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому

      Mostly because people lost interest in my lets plays and thus I lost interest xD

  • @evilkingstanley
    @evilkingstanley 6 років тому +554

    I see a number of people saying they don't like MV because of the art style of the default graphics. That's like saying you don't like a car because of the air freshener in it. Just replace it and move on. There is a huge community providing all kinds and styles of graphics and sprites to suit any need you have, and you can always just make your own. The company that makes the program even has a $10 package sold for it that gives you HD versions of the graphics from RPG Maker 2000.

    • @theolized
      @theolized 6 років тому +14

      I see majority said the particular style is about the tile size tho.

    • @Sybato
      @Sybato 6 років тому +52

      "you can always make your own"
      not everyone is an artist

    • @idar3703
      @idar3703 6 років тому +6

      RPG Maker 2000 hd graphics?! Where do I find this?!

    • @plagueofangel8694
      @plagueofangel8694 5 років тому +36

      @@Sybato but you can learn. I've been practicing my art in my free time. I'm terrible, but it's fun to learn.

    • @erasures
      @erasures 5 років тому +3

      @mini Wanton True

  • @seacliff217
    @seacliff217 6 років тому +236

    2k/3 - Old but gold.
    XP - Black sheep, but impressive for its time.
    VX - BWA HA HA HA HA!... no.
    VX Ace - Talk about taking nothing and making it something. Best one, IMO. It can't do everything MV can, but is a lot more snappier with inputs.
    MV - Still great, but the move to Javascript was two steps forward and one step back. The engine is literally a web browser, which can cause a lot of delays when displaying resources and lags on weaker hardware.

    • @SeraphCircle
      @SeraphCircle 5 років тому +11

      That lag gave me a frothing hatred for years of MV. Archeia told me it's because my video card is old(it's an on-board video card from 2012), which it indeed is very, despite the rest of my pc being relatively potent. So I'll be getting a new (weak) video card and giving it a shot. Hoping it works :)

    • @one______2699
      @one______2699 5 років тому +3

      @@SeraphCircle That done yet?

    • @SeraphCircle
      @SeraphCircle 5 років тому +3

      yup! Got a secondhand GT420 for literally 100 brl and now MV runs absurdly smooth. So yeah, it's as Archeia said -- MV runs on GPU, if you don't have any it won't run at all; while all other RPG Makers run on CPU

    • @MechanizedAngelz
      @MechanizedAngelz 4 роки тому +1

      At some point my MV wouldn't let me play test games, I'd get a ".html" error upon opening trying to test it, I could and, did open it in chrome and, stuff and, it worked but, is an unnecessary step... then, it broke completely, haha.

    •  4 роки тому

      @@SeraphCircle Here, MV works pretty good with intel i3 notebook and hd 3000.

  • @TheSavageBountyHunter
    @TheSavageBountyHunter 3 роки тому +90

    RPG maker XP was the engine used for my favorite indie game of all time.
    "Finding Paradise"
    Good game
    Great story line
    Unique game play
    Beautiful music

    • @LegionCobra__
      @LegionCobra__ Рік тому

      My favorite indie game is Oneshot, which also makes good use of rpg maker xp.

    • @studioarentain3960
      @studioarentain3960 Рік тому

      @@LegionCobra__ one shot used 2003

    • @LegionCobra__
      @LegionCobra__ Рік тому

      @@studioarentain3960 Yes the original version used 2003 but the remake used xp.

    • @studioarentain3960
      @studioarentain3960 Рік тому

      @@LegionCobra__ nope! Remake actually used mv ;)

    • @LegionCobra__
      @LegionCobra__ Рік тому

      ​@@studioarentain3960 Just look at the game's wiki

  • @bruhvenant
    @bruhvenant 3 роки тому +81

    2K3 - beautiful and nostalgic graphical style, powerful eventing system. A lot of the classic RPG Maker games were made with as well and many still swear by it, I’ve never used it extensively myself but I feel like it must’ve done something really right to garner such dedication. It’s kinda like the Smash Bros Melee of the RM community lol.
    XP - was great to use as a kid, the simplicity of it made it very useful for learning. Mapping system was great, and the tall sprites are easily the best looking of the series. Also has my favorite RPGM game (Master of the Wind)
    VX Ace - my favorite and the one I still use. It combines great visuals with technical power to give the full package. Massive amount of resources and scripts available to suit your every need.
    MV - in many ways feels like a modernized Ace, but I think it looks ugly and it runs a lot worse than the others (I have a gaming PC so I don’t really feel it, but I definitely noticed when I tested it on my laptop, and I figure a lot of people playing RPGM games don’t have great systems, so it’s a concern). Despite that I’d say it’s by far the most beginner friendly, especially with the added ease of plugins over scripts, so I’d recommend it to newbies.
    MZ - basically MV 1.5 HD Remix. Better (and far more complex) animations, integrated ATB system, and map layers brought back. That’s pretty much it. Not worth the price tag in my opinion, but at least most of your MV assets will carry forward.

  • @Ihavenoskin
    @Ihavenoskin 6 років тому +260

    I just love 2003 graphics...

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +30

      Same, so much in fact that I may port them over to MV...

    • @Ihavenoskin
      @Ihavenoskin 6 років тому +20

      They just have that 16-bit feel to them that you can't beat! Definitely, port them, if you make a game then you have a new player in me!

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +8

      With 2k3 it actually is 16 bit too xD does throw some nostalgia vibes everywhere.

    • @Ihavenoskin
      @Ihavenoskin 6 років тому +3

      TeamUnpro true! By the way... not spamming but I’ve just released my first game demo www.dropbox.com/sh/zwy9wd249w26odn/AAAiH8dlllEArqocqqSxeANxa?dl=0 if you have time I would love for you to try it!

    • @seacliff217
      @seacliff217 6 років тому

      I really like 2k3's tilesets, but Mack and Blue's tilesets are god-tier. Graphically on par with Sekien Detsu 3, Romancing Saga 3, and Chrono Trigger easily.

  • @PercyPanleo
    @PercyPanleo 6 років тому +22

    Fun fact: I own all of these! How I got them (In the order I got them): Rpg Maker XP: Gift, Rpg Maker VX Ace: Gift from a few months later, Rpg Maker 2k3: I bought myself, Rpg Maker MV: I also bought myself (Almost a year later!).

  • @orangepeel4542
    @orangepeel4542 Рік тому +10

    Another good thing you should mention- they get a lot more expensive as it goes on

  • @companyoflosers
    @companyoflosers 6 років тому +64

    they need to make an rpg maker than allows somewhat 3d environments like in pokemon for 3ds. i know its not all REALLY 3d, but if it allowed for 3d-ish assets, that'd be great! oh and 8 directional movement as an option without a script and options for other rpg types. action rpg mode needs to be available as an option by default for example, but in reality you have to implement a load of scripts and changes to the fundamentals of the engine before you can get it working like that. would save a TON of time if they just did that for us. id even pay extra for them.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +5

      dude I fully agree

    • @nopenope2461
      @nopenope2461 5 років тому +3

      Im surprised they haven't tried another 3D RPG Maker like the did with RPG Maker 2 & 3 for the PS2

    • @digitly5714
      @digitly5714 3 роки тому

      Try out Neverwinter Nights aurora toolset

    • @griffinbrooks6748
      @griffinbrooks6748 3 роки тому

      try rpg paper maker!

    • @someguywithabirdface2583
      @someguywithabirdface2583 3 роки тому

      Is possible to do something like pokemon black and white style 3d in mv

  • @melodicnostalgic3823
    @melodicnostalgic3823 4 роки тому +11

    Story of my Life :
    With XP : Hmm.. This is Simple, Just need to figure out "How to do Maps"
    Never made a Game.
    With VX Ace : Hmm.. This is Easy, Just need to figure out "How to add a Good Battle System"
    Made some 2 Games but weren't so impressive.
    With MV : Hmm.. This is Complex, If only I could finish my Game with all these Extra Options.
    Still Making a Game since 2 Years..

  • @hatsymeek20
    @hatsymeek20 5 років тому +18

    oh mY GOD YOU MENTIONED ARA FELL. THAT'S SUCH A COOL GAME!! I try to make games here and there using MV and Ara Fell is such an inspiration, mainly because it was made in RPG Maker 2003 (which is undoubtedly harder to work with because it doesn't have the "crutches" that MV does, to my knowledge.) So not only is it good in general, but it's really good for a game made in RPG Maker 2003.

  • @Weather-more
    @Weather-more 4 роки тому +41

    How is everyone complaining about MV being hard? I never had any other rpg maker and I figured it out in no time. If there were only more selfswitches I could use. A-D isn't enough.

  • @MechanizedAngelz
    @MechanizedAngelz 4 роки тому +28

    "Abomination" and, "wtf is this" made me chuckle.

  • @toadsonytwo
    @toadsonytwo 4 роки тому +43

    I just bought 2003 a week ago for 3.99 on steam. I like it alot. Then I bought mv for 19.99 on steam. I haven't used it much. Still haven't figured out how to upload new tile sets and sprites.

  • @aguywithrandomconvictions5302
    @aguywithrandomconvictions5302 5 років тому +50

    Anything with the word "Java" in it is powerful. Nah, I'm just traumatized.

    • @SylkaChan
      @SylkaChan 5 років тому +4

      2K3 has the wonderful animated battle sprites, it makes me want to use it. It also has types of items taken out of XP, such as skill scrolls. It also can show avatars in text boxes, which was also taken out of XP. Those are the three advantages, but mostly it's the battle system. 2K3 has many disadvantages, one of which it's hard to use. Other disadvantages is not being able to change color of characters, and no weather or colored lighting either.

    • @SylkaChan
      @SylkaChan 5 років тому +1

      I would think MV makes VX obsolete, besides being more expensive.

    • @aguywithrandomconvictions5302
      @aguywithrandomconvictions5302 5 років тому +4

      @@SylkaChan I've used both MV and VX. I only prefer MV because of two things:
      1.) It's JavaScript.
      2.) The damage formulas are more customizable, and I can put in more "complicated" equations that I could in VX
      Aside from that, I can't really fight my claim any further other than that MV has a built in Side View Battler.

  • @causeRukKus
    @causeRukKus 5 років тому +32

    As someone who mucked about with the first RPG maker in High School (a looooong time ago) I decided out of nostalgia sake to research if RPG Mucker is still around. I was extremely excited to see the MV version. Especially since I've become a Javascript developer since then. (The Ruby coding had scared me as a kid.) I want to thank you so much for this video which is helping me decide which one to get. Now, I'm NOT a designer and it always sucked using RTP graphics - I felt like I was just copying everything else that existed out there, and I think that's what prevented me from finishing my games (the largest I had put over two hundred hours into). But MV seems so customizable that I could achieve a unique-feel using their RTP set. I just might have to pick this up and finally create the game of my dreams :-) Thanks for the video, it was awesome.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  5 років тому

      Enjoy RPG Maker MV, keep me posted with what you create if you want~

    • @RedMageGaming
      @RedMageGaming 5 років тому

      I've used every version of rpg maker on pc except RM95. MV is worth it. Coming from the group that got into rpgmaker in the days of Don Miguel and Postality Knights, before you could get it in english officially, I've since gone back and purchased them all. To support the devs, and keep this hobby expanding. Hope you dive in and join the community!

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 4 роки тому

      How have things gone?

  • @estahbear
    @estahbear 3 роки тому +5

    RPG Maker 2003 and MV have always been my favorites. So easy and flexible!

  • @darkbeetlebot
    @darkbeetlebot 3 роки тому +9

    You forgot to mention that VX Ace probably has a very old and wide selection of scripts that are well-archived and easy to acquire. Meanwhile, I have yet to see a lot of the scripts VX Ace had on MV, though that one does have its own entire community.

  • @KururuJi
    @KururuJi 6 років тому +17

    MV is my favorite, as somebody who began with 2k. Mostly for the deployment options.

  • @SuperStarStudiosPlush
    @SuperStarStudiosPlush 13 днів тому +1

    Wolf RPG Editor is also a good and free alternative, I decided to go with it! It’s basically an RPG Maker clone, and it’s pretty old, but it’s very effective and convenient in my opinion, and like I said it’s free! It’s all up to preference though, and I feel Wolf suits my needs best!

  • @SquareoftheLightOnes
    @SquareoftheLightOnes 5 років тому +11

    I REALLY wish they didn't keep increasing the tile size though. When I use VX Ace, I can't just plop down a 16x16 tile wholecloth. I have to bring it's three sibling tiles along with it, or in the case of MV, it's three siblings, mom and dad, grandma and grandpa, and the creepy uncle. The average person wouldn't think twice about this, but whenever I see a tile in my tilesheet being used two or more times I can't help but think "I sure wish I could just use the first tile and have the empty space be used for something else instead."

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  5 років тому +1

      Yeah! Or at least they could have made it so you can define the tiles width/height in the editor, or like in MV but without having to use a plugin to later swap a scaled tileset for the real tileset

    • @VanNessy97
      @VanNessy97 7 місяців тому

      I agree. It makes it even harder for me to reskin every single tileset to fit whatever level I want to design because I Can't Afford Any Modern Technology DLC

  • @MarcinKralka
    @MarcinKralka 5 років тому +7

    Just bought RPG Maker 2003 because I've spent a bit of my childhood on this program :D

  • @comikachi
    @comikachi 5 років тому +8

    This makes me regret not watching videos before buying. I thought VX Ace was the newest one but I didn’t get a chance to try it until the return policy ran out

  • @StrakBlue
    @StrakBlue 3 місяці тому +1

    I get made fun of for using VX (regular, not Ace) in 2024. And yes, i get it, the newer engines are technically more powerful. But as I've said before and I'll say again, the limitations of an engine are not the limitations of a developer. You can pretty much make any kind of game work with pretty much any engine, it's just about how much work you're willing to do.

  • @kanatahiba
    @kanatahiba 6 років тому +37

    At first I used (pirated) XP for around 3 months, then I bought VX Ace. Kinda need some adjusting because of the layer system, but after some time I managed to get the hang of it. After making lotsa games in VX Ace for years, I tried MV and I think it's too much for me ._.
    When I was using vx ace, I usually use customized, 2x2 px graphics. Now I'm overwhelmed by the large res and the big files from RmMv. I hope I can get the hang of it! Maybe because I'm too accustomed to VXAce, I still think VXAce is better MV.

  • @Sankaritarina89
    @Sankaritarina89 4 роки тому +5

    Holy shit, mv looks amazing. I haven't used RPG makers since back in 2004. Back then I used 2k and 2003 alot. Since I was just 14y old back then without any epic ideas for a proper story (golden sun was my Benchmark) I just stuck with creating tutorials and upload them to forums back in the day so people with good ideas for a story could get their things done :)
    I'm really intrigued to give mv a try and port it to android. Just saw your video of how easy it is to do the porting 👍🏾

  • @infernape100
    @infernape100 6 років тому +7

    I had VX ace when I first started but than when MV came out I switched over to that and have actually just finished my first ever game fully =3.

  • @LucyKosaki
    @LucyKosaki 10 місяців тому +1

    I think it would be nice if they added more new features instead of overhauling the old ones for every new iteration. There are many common RPG game elements or core features not available yet unless you know javascript or use 3rd party plugins, such as a quest log system, manual upgrade options, more unique gear and character abilities (set bonuses, passives, gaining stacks ect), assist in specifying damage formulas, a fully customizable UI and menu navigation with clickable/tappable elements, a built in map feature if you dont wanna use an overworld style of traveling, an achievment system and others.

  • @fordusfiresoul
    @fordusfiresoul 6 років тому +93

    I just can't stand MV's whole chibi aesthetic, especially the battlers. I'd recommend VX Ace for a new user.

    • @MageArtGreenDragon
      @MageArtGreenDragon 6 років тому +30

      Same here but that's where your artistic talent kicking in to make it look not chibi aesthetic, lol.

    • @gigaswardblade7261
      @gigaswardblade7261 6 років тому +12

      Aren’t vx ace’s characters also chibi?

    • @mantis_monk
      @mantis_monk 6 років тому +1

      Sorry I'm new to this whole thing. So you can change the sprites to not look chibi?

    • @gigaswardblade7261
      @gigaswardblade7261 6 років тому +1

      you can change them to not look chibi by using photoshop i guess

    • @chimaerejade5090
      @chimaerejade5090 6 років тому +5

      There are a few templates for charsets on the offical rpg maker forum. Search for "Candacis" for quick founds. :)

  • @LeafStorm14
    @LeafStorm14 6 років тому +5

    This video got me thinking about another video idea you could do TeamUnpro. How about a PSA about the prices? Like, if I were to give advice to someone who wants to get into RPG Maker, I would tell them to wait for a sale. Definitely a good tip for the rest of us who can't afford paying $60 on a pretty big commitment, but still wanting to support the developers.

  • @bgaming2297
    @bgaming2297 Рік тому +2

    Honestly, I prefer 2003, not just because of all the other reasons to, but because of the ability to use animations for more expansive character animations, especially with the idles and stuff. I seriously don't know why they got rid of that.

  • @KevenPirritano
    @KevenPirritano 6 років тому +16

    Switching to Java Script is actually limiting the potential of the overall software. Would have been better to go with C# or C++.
    Plus, in truth the RPG Maker series has never been a TRUE RPG game development tool. The RPG genre contains three basic types: turn based (every RM to date), Tactics, & Action. Now yes you can script such stuff in RMXP and up, but that goes against the basic concept "make Any RPG". Furthermore, the RPG Maker series is always out dated by BASIC features found in many RPG games (and not just modern RPGs, but basic stuff from the NES & SNES era).

  • @zazxazza
    @zazxazza 4 роки тому +2

    To be honest, all of them have a use in today's RPG Maker World. 2003 and XP have a feeling that is difficult to reproduce with VX Ace and MV. VX Ace is easiest for beginners to start out on, and is the most compatible out of all. MV can create impressive games

  • @flowerowl8342
    @flowerowl8342 6 років тому +3

    I just bought RPG Maker MV :D
    And Merry Christmas!

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому

      Merry christmas to you too! ^.^

  • @sammygorilla8688
    @sammygorilla8688 5 років тому +2

    I absolutely love MV it was my first ever RPG maker and trying the others.........I'll choose MV any day!

  • @Daan03
    @Daan03 5 років тому +8

    I think I’m going to buy VX ace, I’m just going to try to build maps and i’ll become better, i’ve been doing things with Wolf RPG editor.

  • @thogameskanaal
    @thogameskanaal 6 років тому +4

    I use both XP and MV, XP primarily for Pokemon Essentials, while I use MV for whatever I feel like making...

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +2

      Pokemon Essentials is amazing

  • @aoiyozora67
    @aoiyozora67 6 років тому +9

    My first rpg maker engine was VX Ace, after that I decided to try out XP, finally the latest version of rpg maker I have now is MV. My favorite would have to be VX Ace because it was my first one, I only bought XP for the extra tilesets and assets to my game. Rpg maker MV was the biggest improvement for me, even though I think the character graphics still suck, I like the hidden third layer but sometimes you can’t tell and accidentally over clips something on accident. To people who are new with rpg maker, id recommend MV as well just because it’s simple to use

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +3

      "sometimes you can't tell" i know right? That bugs me a little, I kinda wish they would have just stuck with a layering system like XP had tbh

    • @aoiyozora67
      @aoiyozora67 6 років тому +2

      TeamUnpro yeah I feel the same

  • @Luke-zj6ge
    @Luke-zj6ge 6 років тому +1

    Couldn't have come at a better time! Thank you TeamUnpro! C:

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +1

      Derpy me, need to change it back to TheUnproPro since its not a team anymore :P
      And welcome! Hope you're happy with what ever RPG Maker you pick!

    • @Luke-zj6ge
      @Luke-zj6ge 6 років тому +1

      Fast response! I like it, I remember watching you back in the "Jack Tiles" days xD good times. I still wonder whatever happened to his tiles. Did you just delete them or were they corrupt? So many questions! D:

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому

      Idr what happened myself lol, I remember having to reformat tho so maybe they got lost in the reformat

    • @Luke-zj6ge
      @Luke-zj6ge 6 років тому

      Maybe... or maybe you have been working on a game in secret that includes Jack's Tiles? ;)

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 3 роки тому +2

    XP will always be my favourite, but I just wish a lot of the support was still around. It's hard trying to make something in 2020 using it without knowing what you're doing, trust me, I know first hand xD

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  3 роки тому

      Oh for sure! Absolutely

    • @sarahangel3481
      @sarahangel3481 3 роки тому +2

      I know how you feel.
      I have the same problem as you.
      Unfortunately, there aren't that many tutorials for the Xp.
      Because so many of course use MV. To be honest, I'm tempted to get it.
      But I prefer the graphics from Xp.
      I know very well that you put the graphics from Xp in MV.
      But I think that is not welcomed.
      And if I were ever that good at pixel art, they would be very similar to this graphic anyway.
      (sigh)
      I am completely ready to learn, no problem.
      I love to learn new things.
      And then some could come and say that I stole them.
      Therefore, if I ever get a game ready, only my friends or I are allowed to play it, and it will not be sold or published.
      Unless I jump into the deep end and try it anyway.
      I'm just glad that I understand English well and not only rely on tutorials in German.
      I just can't write properly in English.
      But as I didn't know anything about RPG Maker, the German UA-camr DonF204 helped me very well and I still like to stop by him.
      But I'm still looking for those who do good tutorials whether German or English doesn't matter.
      So for me it's just a hobby and I would be happy if I could create a complex and beautiful game.
      Sorry I hope I didn't write too much :)
      Greetings from Germany :)

    • @elfiebranford9330
      @elfiebranford9330 3 роки тому +2

      @@sarahangel3481 My sentiments exactly. In short, the real issue is that XP tutorials, videos, and guides are either outdated or replaced by those made in MV.
      Although I've dabbled in fun little projects, I really wanna try and make something special in an RPG Maker engine. I'm tempted to buy MV, but with my reluctance to spend money during tight times, I fear I wouldn't get the most out of my purchase, at least not for a while :/

    • @sarahangel3481
      @sarahangel3481 3 роки тому

      Yes i understand.
      Believe me it's exactly the same with me.
      I really want to learn everything about games that can be made with the XP. But nobody seems to do more tutorials about it. What a shame. Seems like I have to do everything myself. And I have next to no idea.
      I hope to find some that can help me, especially with scripting. :)

    • @sarahangel3481
      @sarahangel3481 3 роки тому

      And it will be a long time before I can even buy MV.
      Because of the pandemic, it's hard to make enough money.
      And then I'm still not sure if it's really worth it. :(

  • @mantis_monk
    @mantis_monk 6 років тому +9

    I just bought MV. I figured well it's the newest so, it must be the best. I'm a total noob so i'm watching tons of tutorials now and right away I realize something. I don't like any of the included resources. Just don't like the look of any of it. So, I've learned that what I want is the same look as the good ol' super nes days. Looks like I'll need to search for and download all those types of resources now...

    • @mantis_monk
      @mantis_monk 6 років тому +4

      Just discovered you can actually create your own sprites lol...Looks like so much fun. man I've got so much to learn...

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +3

      RPG Maker 2k3 by default limits graphics to 16-bit (likely due to how old it is), and its eventing system is pretty powerful but might be confusing to get used to properly. If you want to go for the SNES look, RPG maker 2003 would be the easiest way --BUT-- MV would be the best way since its far more developed and much less limited

    • @mantis_monk
      @mantis_monk 6 років тому +2

      Thanks for the info bro. Are you familiar with Spriter? I'm checking it out now...How do you feel about it? Worth the money?

  • @sampledgem6215
    @sampledgem6215 5 років тому +5

    I started with FES. AKA the 3DS version.

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 6 років тому +34

    I got vx like... a few months before MV came out and on seeing everything MV had... that just kinda took the wind out of my sales because 'well... yea It figures. pick a horse only for something that is exactly what you want (linux support) with more flexibility.'
    I feel like i goofed. Especially with how janky ace's default everything looks.
    Edit: MV is as of this moment twenty bucks. for better or worse pulled the trigger on it.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +3

      lmao ace does have some pretty jank defaults x"D but hey, best of luck. I hope you can get MV soon!

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 6 років тому +2

      It's twenty bucks. for better or worse i pulled the trigger. Now i just gotta force organization on the idea soup i have.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +2

      Best of luck and have fun! :)

    • @LeafStorm14
      @LeafStorm14 6 років тому +3

      Don't think like that. There's still a lot of things you can do with VX. If you keep thinking that something more expensive would make you better off, you've fallen into the trap of excuses.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +5

      "If you keep thinking that something more expensive would make you better off, you've fallen into the trap of excuses." I love that, it's so true too "There's still a lot of things you can do with VX." This is especially true if andrew were to learn scripting :) RGSS is a lot simpler than javascript imo lol but scripting can still be hard to wrap around for some

  • @rachelwindsor850
    @rachelwindsor850 6 років тому

    The thing that I don't like about MV is that it uses JavaScript... This means that the games you create with it are very much like web browsers, which I'm not a fan of. I do realize that this method is what makes the games multiplatform (Win, Mac, Linux), but I would still much rather have my game be a native application instead. I also think that native support makes the games easier to run on older systems, which I do value with these sort of retro-style games.
    I think VX Ace will probably be my next RPG Maker if the price ever comes down a notch. There's also a project called MKXP which makes it possible to run RPG Maker XP - VX Ace games on Linux and Mac.
    Until then I'm working with good old RPG Maker 2003. The event-scripting in RPG Maker 2003 is pretty wonky, but it gets the job done until I can get my hands on Ruby in VX Ace.

  • @daniellynnsmellie5587
    @daniellynnsmellie5587 6 років тому +5

    He says “RPG Maker 2003” really fast like one word😂

  • @uugabuuga7450
    @uugabuuga7450 6 років тому

    I have been using rpg maker vx ace for quite some time but I think I'm gonna buy MV considering it is on a banger sale. I'm working on a game with all custom graphics and all those resolution- and custom settings seem really neat.
    This video was really helpful.

  • @Matshiro
    @Matshiro 6 років тому

    2003 - I didn't used it very much, I was too late for that, but for sure, the best horror games to this day were made in 2003, also great amout of well done games, you know, with passion and not "make another game because."
    XP is most nostalgic, I had ton of fun with it, 3-layer system was great and easy. You could easily made basic rpg games with it.
    VX and Ace - Eh... For me it's like waste of money, I did nothing in them, I could not manage to finish any project, everytime because of something
    MV - I'm using it for month now, so I still can say anything for sure, but my god, plugins are amazing, you can do so much with your game that you never could. There are many things, that they could easily change for better, unnecessary limitations, bad designs... But you can overcome 99% of that with plugins. So for now it's the best RPG Maker for me.

  • @hyp3r-systems838
    @hyp3r-systems838 3 роки тому +3

    holy shit you speak fast!

  • @adammclaughlin845
    @adammclaughlin845 5 місяців тому +1

    I got RPG Maker VX in a Humble Bundle and the lack of people mentioning it (in comparison to VX Ace) makes me sad.

  • @combatmantis4393
    @combatmantis4393 4 роки тому

    I'm currently dicking around in RPG Maker VX Ace Lite. Will probably buy RPG Maker 2003 or MV if either goes on sale in the future.

  • @bobopatchigglerrulez
    @bobopatchigglerrulez 5 років тому +2

    Aw man, I've been learning Ruby cause I googled "RPG maker programming language" and I got Ruby, didn't know MV used JavaScript till I watched this video

  • @AverageAnimeArtist
    @AverageAnimeArtist Рік тому +1

    The one thing hindering me from getting MV is the battle system is front-view, so you can’t easily make a retro jrpg

    • @Komeiji0401
      @Komeiji0401 Рік тому +1

      There's already a built in setting in MV to set the battle style to side view

  • @Tasuke
    @Tasuke 5 років тому

    Good video! I've got my eye on the console version of MV that's coming out soon. It seems to be just like the PC version, which is good because all the other RPG maker games on console have been very watered down compared to the real thing lol

  • @charlesmetal8224
    @charlesmetal8224 4 роки тому +1

    There is a new RPG Maker out now too. I don't know much about it except that it brought back parallax backgrounds.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  4 роки тому

      Be careful with that;
      It's basically the same thing just a little better than MV. Not worth a full blown $80.

  • @radicaldonutstudios91
    @radicaldonutstudios91 5 років тому +2

    VX Ace is by far the best that I have (I don’t have MV yet), except it has a doodoo soundtrack and bgms. I just import the files from XP for the music.

  • @Moshugaani
    @Moshugaani Рік тому +1

    I just wish it was effortless to choose 16x16 tiles and 320x240 resolution in the modern RPG Makers like it was in RPG Maker 2003. I love the SNES style. That resolution offers nice low resolution pixel art but just enough detail.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  Рік тому +1

      RPG Maker MZ lets you do this now

    • @Moshugaani
      @Moshugaani Рік тому

      @@TeamUnpro Nice! I'll have to take a look at it soon. :)

  • @Zaire82
    @Zaire82 5 років тому +1

    I chose VX Ace because I randomly found the RTP files on my computer, but I think I'll go for MV.

  • @lrdalucardart
    @lrdalucardart 2 роки тому

    Man I used RPG MAKER 2000 soon much and than 2003 when it came out it was a blast with those side battles. Nostalgia rush all over the place!

  • @sammygorilla8688
    @sammygorilla8688 4 роки тому

    Here's an idea.
    Get all the RPG makers and choose which one will work best with
    The game your making and repeat every new game.

  • @basilico8344
    @basilico8344 6 років тому +2

    What about rpg maker fes? It was pretty good if you just wanted to develop a little thing on the go...tho I'm so excited for mv coming to switch!

    • @MarillMau5
      @MarillMau5 5 років тому

      It's out in Japan already, I bought it, and it's sooooooo slow.

  • @dEViN1887
    @dEViN1887 5 років тому +1

    thanks for the video, if anyone's watching now they have a crazy sale on the website. i just got 2003, xp and vx ace for $23 :D

  • @SylkaChan
    @SylkaChan 4 роки тому +1

    Unfortunately MV doesn't have the flying/transparent feature. Is it possible to revive enemies in MV? At least you can revive enemies in MV (I tested it already). You can make the battle system of XP feel more like 2K3 by using the character sprite graphics for your players rather than the battlers.

  • @klatzack2427
    @klatzack2427 3 роки тому

    My personal favorite is RPG Maker 2003.
    It's old, but it's still just so good.

  • @gillarajieprasatya8343
    @gillarajieprasatya8343 4 роки тому +3

    i want a courses for making rpg games, any recommendation?

  • @PentaSquares
    @PentaSquares 11 місяців тому +2

    I guess I should try and get MV since I've used 2003 and it seems a bit....
    well I don't really like using it, either because it's a bit limited in what it can do, or because I have no idea what I'm doing (probably the latter)

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  11 місяців тому

      it's very limited under the hood ; you're better off with a more modern engine, but since you're talking about MV, if you can find MZ on sale for p cheap get that instead, it's "technically" the same thing but you have a few changes in the UI that you might enjoy, in particular manual map layers

  • @Loopylocokiller
    @Loopylocokiller 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the upload. Just bought MV from the Steam sale.

  • @emmanuelsoto2476
    @emmanuelsoto2476 3 роки тому +1

    Greetings. Is the RPG Maker MV For Nintendo Switch worth getting? It's on sale for $35 dollars but I don't know if I should get the game.

  • @lewisturner3597
    @lewisturner3597 4 роки тому +1

    I know this is old but I accidentally bought vx instead of ace and I was wondering why everyone hates it so much

    • @oscarzapata3392
      @oscarzapata3392 4 роки тому +1

      Because it's like the "lite" version of RPG Maker. It doesn't let you create characters, you don't have the three layers of XP, it has a horrible resolution, etc. Maybe other RPG Makers aren't perfect, but all of them have a little advantage that the others doesn't have. However, VX is the only one that really REALLY doesn't have any advantage. I hope you've undestood :)

  • @adorenu1338
    @adorenu1338 6 років тому +1

    i choose rpg maker 2000.
    because it was my childhood

  • @maso5451
    @maso5451 3 роки тому

    To all of you I strongly recommend getting click team fusion. The limits of witch are basically endless and you don’t really need to code in the traditional sense. But if your lazy use his

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  3 роки тому

      I assume you mean "this" and not 'his' lol I wish I made this software. I'd be rich
      also I'll check out team fusion

    • @maso5451
      @maso5451 3 роки тому

      @@TeamUnpro Oh yeah i was on mobile at 1 am.

  • @PFGFrankly
    @PFGFrankly 6 років тому +10

    Heck I used rpg maker xp for my pokémon game ofcorse

  • @Em-jq7dy
    @Em-jq7dy 3 роки тому

    Ara Fell is hands down one of the best RPG maker games I've ever played.

  • @lance5691
    @lance5691 4 роки тому

    I used rpg maker vx ace when I was 10, so I'm super biased by my nostalgia. But, if 10 year old me could learn it, likely anyone could, so if MV isn't in the budjet, get VX Ace, I doubt you'll be dissapointed.

  • @capnam_12
    @capnam_12 5 років тому +4

    can you add your own sprites to rpg maker mv?

    • @Sunny-lu9un
      @Sunny-lu9un 5 років тому +1

      CAPNAM12 yes

    • @capnam_12
      @capnam_12 5 років тому

      @@Sunny-lu9un now thats a weird name. You seem like an incel

    • @Sunny-lu9un
      @Sunny-lu9un 5 років тому

      CAPNAM12 its... a joke

  • @chunkymonkeychunky
    @chunkymonkeychunky 6 років тому +3

    VXAce has in my opinion some of the best scripts and assets and I don't know Javascript as well as I do Ruby, and parallaxing is better than in-game map creation anyway, so the main thing that makes me look at MV is the included mouse system (rather than the wonky RGSS3 mouse scripts), less lag (kinda?), and larger square sizes.

  • @zer0coolninja887
    @zer0coolninja887 6 років тому +1

    is there a pokemon essentials plug in for mv or only on xp?

  • @klatchabobby
    @klatchabobby 4 роки тому

    Lol, I’ve never played a single RPG (excluding the Pokémon games) and yet I have a fascination with making them....

  • @penguyYT
    @penguyYT 3 роки тому +1

    As a VX ace user, i would say to use that one, but i can see the benfits of all of them. MV has the benifit of plugins. VX ace has a lite version if you dont want to pay, XP's tileset system is very good. and 2003, its old?

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  3 роки тому

      p much spot on
      The 2000/2003 part, basically it'll run on potato hardware and on top of that, its picture system is way more powerful

  • @toddgilmore118
    @toddgilmore118 3 роки тому

    Thanks again Unpro Pro!! what about the Side view battle system? is it automatically available without scripts this time? Does it also have rounded cliff walls or still square looking? lol

  • @user-qk7tk8gj1t
    @user-qk7tk8gj1t 5 років тому +3

    XP and VXAce has a best RTP.
    Change my mind.

    • @speedroby5086
      @speedroby5086 4 роки тому

      VXAce feels muddy, limited, and colorless, XP is so good and it has a nice variety. MV's is so colorful, but there is barely any of it so it comes of as a bit of a turn off.

  • @michaelgoodman8849
    @michaelgoodman8849 Рік тому

    Also wondering if ruby and Java scripting replaced events in the newer version. You stated that they were there but did not mention if the original switch system and events were still in place with the newer versions
    .

  • @VanNessy97
    @VanNessy97 7 місяців тому

    I have yet to find an MV tutorial that's Shaun Spalding levels of "break the process down into steps that are so small and so simple, you literally cannot mess up"
    Edit: The absolute bean-soupification of my brain has caused me to own MV for an entire YEAR without noticing the literal Tutorial Selector listed under the "Help" tab that's IN THE FREAKING SOFTWARE

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  7 місяців тому

      Lol shaun do be thorough

  • @AndresRose
    @AndresRose 3 роки тому

    Also! i think the Best Ost of all the The Rpg Makers is XP is just sooo good. I don't know why it has this feeling of a magical world that the other ones don't seem to Click with me. I won't blame you if you use the Default music for XP, Is Just An Amazing Ost.

  • @mcforggottenworld8556
    @mcforggottenworld8556 2 роки тому

    All other RPGMakers : We were in the video!
    RPGMaker MZ : oh

    • @Miru57914
      @Miru57914 2 місяці тому

      This is 6 years ago

  • @capnam_12
    @capnam_12 5 років тому +1

    which RPG maker is the best?

  • @ltxr9973
    @ltxr9973 5 років тому +7

    Honestly, I'm just usíng the 2000, don't even need the 2k3

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  5 років тому +1

      The o.g's dont

    • @ltxr9973
      @ltxr9973 5 років тому +2

      ​@@TeamUnpro I have to say, the MV is really interesting though because I'm a JavaScript dev. But there's something about the way the newer makers in general and also the MV animates things that always seems a little unnatural, almost like being smoothed-out to a point where it feels a little slow but somehow feels a little clunky at the same time.

    • @ltxr9973
      @ltxr9973 5 років тому +1

      A way to make upscaled resources (like old Mack and Blue and all the Seiken Densetsu 3 rips) actually look good would definitely a way to convince me of mv :D

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  5 років тому +1

      @@ltxr9973 the clunk is a micro stutter issue every chrome based html5 rendering has. It's slightly desynched with the refresh rate and incorrectly sends frames to the GPU, causing a very subtle yet annoying spike every second or 2

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  5 років тому +1

      @@ltxr9973 Google's too stupid to notice it so it wont be getting fixed
      Happens on every o.s on laptop or desktop, but they'll blame your hardware first :P

  • @ddecesedd
    @ddecesedd 2 місяці тому +1

    If I am a complete beginner in coding and making games what should I get.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  Місяць тому

      @@ddecesedd Rpg Maker XP
      Ruby is a great first language

  • @alexramos9155
    @alexramos9155 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video my guy, really helpful!

  • @gianmarcovigorito6247
    @gianmarcovigorito6247 6 років тому +2

    Gosh if Rpg Maker XP was a great mate to create a Pokemon game with, it was hard to use by the way and lots of tutorials on UA-cam were kinda useless to me because random errors used to pop up a little bit too often so I abandoned my half-created project. I started to work with Rpg Maker MV to make a simple test game (since I have this great idea to create a mario/kirby rpg) like a couple of days ago, it is true that creating battles and animations is easier but there are only two things that I miss: MP3 files usage (now you need a m4a + ogg file and there is a duration limit but I just figured this last detail right now) and the layers system (as well as the easier mapping, now I need to map parallax which is a really hard and boring thing to do since it takes out hours of time)

  • @infernape100
    @infernape100 4 роки тому

    XP is for making pokemon, MV is good for RPGs and than...MZ's coming...

  • @Tehn00bA
    @Tehn00bA 9 місяців тому

    I love XP art style and how easy to get community scripts for it and VX. Ruby its so easy to understand. I do like the stock soundtrack of VX more though.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  9 місяців тому

      I agree with everything you said except the soundtrack~
      Maybe it's nostalgia, but RPG Maker XP has some banger midis

  • @Retro6502
    @Retro6502 Рік тому

    I know your video was made before MZ, but would you recommend MV or MZ these days for someone starting out?

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  Рік тому

      Maybe one day; but not anytime soon, sorry D:

  • @HoneyPOWMorethanjustahoneypot
    @HoneyPOWMorethanjustahoneypot 4 роки тому

    makes me glad i started with mv kek. if only i had the motivation to make anything good

  • @Clbull118
    @Clbull118 2 роки тому +1

    2003 and XP are by far the best if you care about performance and having decent RTP assets to work with.
    VX Ace, MV and MZ are just fugly in terms of the stock assets they offer.
    MV and MZ are only worth it if you have prior JavaScript programming knowledge and want to make a browser or mobile game.

  • @user-wv5ue7ny6u
    @user-wv5ue7ny6u 2 роки тому

    Honestly loosing my mind over rpg maker mv at the moment because it has everything I need EXCEPT the correct tilesize. No plugins are working and my style clashes extremely with 48x48 tiles

  • @Nagytika
    @Nagytika 6 років тому +1

    2k3 actually had and still has some improvement to the 2k not just the battle system.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому

      Ah really? Interesting, I thought since the steam release and changes made to the software compared to the old original version, that they'd be relatively the same. Interesting though, this makes me want to look more into RPG Maker 2000.

  • @livekanava123
    @livekanava123 5 років тому

    I got Vx Ace and MV and i still think vx Ace is better choice for me. Mv is cool and you can make cool story with it, but i still think vx Ace is easier

  • @CrystalOnixGaming
    @CrystalOnixGaming 6 років тому +4

    great video for beginners. thank you

  • @darkind
    @darkind 4 роки тому

    Im gonna get XP, VX Ace, MV, im just starting off and planning to do an rpg game, im mainly getting XP for pokemon but, is that good? Any tips?

  • @masterninja74
    @masterninja74 6 років тому +4

    I'm trying to decide which one would be best to make my first game in. I got XP, MV, and might get 2003. I kind of think it might be better to use RPG Maker 2003, but I seem to remember hearing that launching games made in XP don't work so well anymore. I'm hoping to release it on steam or something if I ever get it done.

    • @TeamUnpro
      @TeamUnpro  6 років тому +1

      2003 games (Like ARA Fell for exmaple) are on steam and doing quite well, just remember, its mostly about the story. Ara Fell told a beautiful story and it told it very well :) Tell the story well and the game should sell it's self.