Counter-Strike’s Civil War: Was Source Really THAT Bad? | OverExplained

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2019
  • What if Valve threw a party, and nobody came? What if they made a new game, hyped it up, and a lot of people decided that it sucked?
    And what if it became a dark stain on the company’s legacy - one referred to equally with derision and sadness? No, we’re not talking about Artifact - we’re talking about Counter-Strike’s bastard son...
    Written by: Josh Bury (@ThrownGauntlet)
    Shot & Edited by: Jason Durante (@JayJay_Durante)
    Produced by: Miles Hackett (@miles_hackett)
    Hosted by: Dimitri Pascaluta (@DPascaluta)
    Illustrated Animations: Fermin Mulett
    Skit Shot by: Matt Massey
    Appearance by: Colten Gowan (@TheOnlyZoltan)
    Footage credits: pastebin.com/FF3MfuEf
    Music used under license from Associated Production Music LLC (”APM”).
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  • @Toasted1337
    @Toasted1337 4 роки тому +2725

    Nobody ever talks about Condition Zero

    • @primisen9533
      @primisen9533 4 роки тому +129

      Good.

    • @StarXsu90
      @StarXsu90 4 роки тому +45

      Because it was dissapointing

    • @atharvakokaje5818
      @atharvakokaje5818 4 роки тому +10

      TRUEE :-\

    • @tazzmanine
      @tazzmanine 4 роки тому +120

      Condition Zero is the game they should talk about, not Source. But i guess its just kids making these vids.

    • @WAstateofmind
      @WAstateofmind 4 роки тому +51

      @@tazzmanine Says a kid ():-)

  • @niko1ndex
    @niko1ndex 4 роки тому +1138

    You didnt play source for competitive games but because of the community servers.

    • @Jin-di9zv
      @Jin-di9zv 4 роки тому +88

      Zombie mode or Zombie escape. Those were the days.

    • @Tomasz987987
      @Tomasz987987 4 роки тому +7

      Fy_twotowers

    • @akaiendo7312
      @akaiendo7312 4 роки тому +33

      Custom modes were so good on source, I miss my gun games :(

    • @shadowcurtain
      @shadowcurtain 4 роки тому +7

      miss those days when u play zombie escape or WC3 servers source had the best WC3 servers by far

    • @TheWehzy
      @TheWehzy 4 роки тому +6

      @@Jin-di9zv dont forget about bhop and surf.

  • @waNErBOY
    @waNErBOY 4 роки тому +629

    I have almost 2k hours on source, most of them were spent in ESEA servers.
    I regret nothing, loved those times

    • @KHALID47
      @KHALID47 4 роки тому +6

      Going back to it now its really good

    • @enesozdemir4085
      @enesozdemir4085 4 роки тому +1

      waNErBOY booo

    • @waNErBOY
      @waNErBOY 4 роки тому +2

      @@KHALID47 it does feel good, i just loved the community back then, remember when LOLYOU was the GOAT of NA source? that was fun

    • @KHALID47
      @KHALID47 4 роки тому +1

      @@waNErBOY i played lots of 1.6 my pc couldn't handle source back then but i played it the mods were fuuunn

    • @circa2008
      @circa2008 4 роки тому +3

      thats because you never played ESEA in 1.6. all you knew was source.

  • @THEWILLY417
    @THEWILLY417 4 роки тому +1085

    I still don't understand how Source "failed" when it had a healthy competitive scene for 8 years, not to mention was super modder friendly.

    • @xfan420bush9
      @xfan420bush9 4 роки тому +11

      Salty

    • @gregorycomey
      @gregorycomey 4 роки тому +72

      @@xfan420bush9 lol no

    • @mysty0
      @mysty0 4 роки тому +108

      @@xfan420bush9 salty? You seem to lack the basic intelligence to grasp what he is asking. How do you define CS:S as having failed? There is no metric you could possibly use to define Source as a failure

    • @bartholomewpicca9899
      @bartholomewpicca9899 4 роки тому +46

      people only say "I Hate Source" to virtue signal that they're good at Counter Strike

    • @momcilomarkovic8435
      @momcilomarkovic8435 4 роки тому +8

      @@mysty0 Source was meant to be a sequel to 1.6 but people still played it a lot and they coexisted instead of source being the only one so you can consider it a failure

  • @davedanger4414
    @davedanger4414 4 роки тому +340

    This only pertains to the "competitive" side of CS, which wasn't as big as it is now. I played a lot of CSS and during that time, I probably couldn't name one pro team or player. I put all my hours into minigames/zombies/surf/jailbreak and, to me, that's where the game really shined.

    • @Jin-di9zv
      @Jin-di9zv 4 роки тому +15

      Yeah. Customized sandbox is what source is all about. The reason Gmod is still alive.

    • @Kreege
      @Kreege 4 роки тому +5

      CS may not have been as big in 2005 as today based on pure player numbers and prize pools, but in terms of esports market share it had a much bigger slice of the pie. CS was the undisputed king of esports in the early/mid 00s. The only game that even came close to CS was the korean starcraft scene. CS:S was a travesty that fractured the competitive CS community and set it back 5 years, allowing other games to supplant it in the late 2000s like LoL and dota.

    • @davedanger4414
      @davedanger4414 4 роки тому +1

      @@Kreege Halo 2 on console had a pretty large esports scene and had a good prize pool for the time. A $200,000 prize pool in 2006 was a huge deal. If you were just a PC gamer, you might not have known how big H2 really was... And it was actually broadcasted on national television.

    • @corriedebeer799
      @corriedebeer799 3 роки тому +2

      it was a lot of fun

    • @DarkSession6208
      @DarkSession6208 6 місяців тому

      I had over 8000 hours of CS:S from like when i was 11 until i was 16. There was a big Competitive scene (ESL Gathers), with custom servers, custom matchmaking etc. It was fun to play, but nobody WANTED to play it because community servers and funservers were simply ... don't know how to phrase it, it was more fun. Its like comparing Pubg to Gmod. 1.6 and GO is like Pubg where all that counts is to win, and Gmod is like hell gonna have the best time of your life.

  • @XxHistorikxX
    @XxHistorikxX 4 роки тому +2056

    I enjoyed source :(

  • @Sammysapphira
    @Sammysapphira 4 роки тому +843

    Who actually dislikes CSS..? I've never heard people complain about it.

    • @andym1016
      @andym1016 4 роки тому +65

      i always hear people complain about csgo lol
      i just hit my 3k hours lastnight on css after 10+ years

    • @BigHorseFilm
      @BigHorseFilm 4 роки тому +74

      The first time I played CSS, was office. I saw the glass physics & I could never go back to 1.6. I was too young to even understand why the divide even existed, the source engine was just so much better than GoldSource. Looking back now I can understand why people didn't like it, but I still had thousands of happy hours playing CSS & I don't regret it. It was a great game.

    • @mysty0
      @mysty0 4 роки тому +12

      Propaganda for Millenials

    • @teukufadel8293
      @teukufadel8293 4 роки тому +3

      @@lambups covert weapons of cs go for free thanks to modders too, we don't need to spend a single penny for their "cosmetic" on cs go lol

    • @bunnyhop4938
      @bunnyhop4938 4 роки тому +10

      1.6 is for men. CS source is for kids, that's why CSS is a bad CS game.
      -CSS movement was so bad compared to 1.6, no double duck peeking, no ladder tricks to get to advantages places (e.g tuscan ladder) etc. 1.6 movement is so much more fluid compared to CSS
      -Much reduced wallbanging compared to 1.6 so it has a much lower skill ceiling
      -CS Deagle is overpowered as hell, amazing running accuracy and low recoil
      -No ammo buying so less economy management
      -No grenade damage going though walls so all your nade damage is blocked by small props
      -Dumb awp quickscope accuracy nerfs
      -Dumb barrels on dust2 etc that block movement when people shoot them e.g long a house doorwat
      -Huge hitboxes
      -Cluttered maps, not clean and simple like 1.6
      I'm not a fan of CSGO either but CSS is just an awful game.

  • @Mike604
    @Mike604 4 роки тому +837

    1.6: Competition
    Source: Community
    CSGO: Loot Boxes

    • @user-tp4gi8gt3g
      @user-tp4gi8gt3g 4 роки тому +19

      Loot boxes aren't p2w bullshit tho

    • @jackieAZ
      @jackieAZ 4 роки тому +95

      Fixed that for you:
      1.6: Started it all
      Source: Community
      CSGO: Competition

    • @fakeusertas721
      @fakeusertas721 4 роки тому +10

      chacter skin , pay to win, very hard to see new character skin

    • @user-tp4gi8gt3g
      @user-tp4gi8gt3g 4 роки тому +24

      @@fakeusertas721 there's no p2w system csgo wtf

    • @waffles6280
      @waffles6280 4 роки тому +12

      CS:CZ: The Forgotten One

  • @yung_sirloin
    @yung_sirloin 4 роки тому +158

    I put so many hours into jailbreak on Source, taht was easily the most fun I ever had playing with randoms in any game

    • @LukeRens
      @LukeRens 4 роки тому

      Hobo what servers did you play out?

    • @timati12321
      @timati12321 4 роки тому +9

      CSS was the best fps game ever. I had so much fun playing on poolparty, surf servers, rpg servers, zombie servers, warcraft servers they even had a world of warcraft server I had the best time of my gaming life back then I dont understand why it was a bad game 😂

    • @timati12321
      @timati12321 4 роки тому +5

      Plus they had the best gun models in any fps game I loved the M4 and the AK47 they looked so sexy

    • @yung_sirloin
      @yung_sirloin 4 роки тому

      @@LukeRens HellsGamers I think

    • @sohel_naikawadi
      @sohel_naikawadi 4 роки тому

      @@timati12321 I did all of these things in 1.6, source was not popular I'm my country

  • @MrTwister4Life
    @MrTwister4Life 4 роки тому +208

    Cs 1.6 scene kids were saying the same thing about CS:GO they did about source. then it started making money and they changed their tune.

    • @Kreege
      @Kreege 4 роки тому +50

      CS:GO was even worse than Source for about the first year after it was released and was dead on arrival with only 20k daily peak players. It wasn't until the summer of 2013 when the developers finally started listening to the pro players feedback and implementing improvements to the game to make it feel more similar to 1.6 that csgo finally took off.

    • @Okieant
      @Okieant 4 роки тому +8

      Uh no. We never changed our tune. Many just quit outright. There's very few 1.6ers left competing. And there's no support for playing 1.6 competitively anymore. Its not eve about the money. We had hardly any money in 1.6. CSGO is much more playable than Source but its gameplay is still not on the level of 1.6

    • @bobeh8500
      @bobeh8500 2 роки тому

      @@Okieant Correct. The gameplay isn’t on the same level, it’s far superior :)

    • @BOSSDONMAN
      @BOSSDONMAN Рік тому

      @@bobeh8500 Which is?

  • @mainegameboy5670
    @mainegameboy5670 4 роки тому +736

    We all need to have it installed because of gmod

  • @sempar
    @sempar 4 роки тому +86

    I personally love Source and for me is the best CS. I was also a movement junkie and im still one to this day. 10/10 game for me.

    • @CarNNNN
      @CarNNNN 4 роки тому

      Lmao wtf? Did you not see 1.3?

    • @DarkSession6208
      @DarkSession6208 6 місяців тому

      I agree, source movement is by far the best and less clunky in any FPS. I hated getting tagged in 1.6 and especially GO because it would ruin the natural flow of the game and limit my abilities to really make plays with good movement.

  • @coolandsexyguy3
    @coolandsexyguy3 4 роки тому +205

    i still love source, put a couple hundred hours in this year

    • @yeon723
      @yeon723 4 роки тому

      so you're still bad at cs?

    • @FelixMarshFTW
      @FelixMarshFTW 4 роки тому +19

      @@yeon723 we're all bad at cs

    • @TheSolidlad
      @TheSolidlad 4 роки тому

      Same.

    • @Monk3y_C
      @Monk3y_C 4 роки тому +4

      I still play Deathmatch in some server lol

    • @sass174
      @sass174 4 роки тому +4

      @@Monk3y_C welcome to A W P clan server.....

  • @bahruzazizov9335
    @bahruzazizov9335 4 роки тому +170

    Talking shit about a game when you played it few hours at max, the game was good. I played both versions and honestly both are different and good in their own way.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +34

      indeed, the guy in this video is incredibly ignorant about how good CSS actually was. I played the game for years and it was a vastly superior experience than what CSGO has to offer, both casually and competitively.

    • @bacjam6139
      @bacjam6139 4 роки тому +5

      anab0lic plot twist it all comes down to opinions

    • @fkim8449
      @fkim8449 4 роки тому

      Played 1.6,condition zero and source for quiet a long time 😁 even didn't go to sleep most of the time... And cs:go played it but im getting too old i guess 🤣🤣

  • @aitormoreton333
    @aitormoreton333 4 роки тому +215

    CS:Source is a very good game. Change my mind.

  • @Jstanfill
    @Jstanfill 4 роки тому +143

    Source was a great game. You should have at least interviewed a few people who weren't 1.6 elitists.
    Edit: just realized how much footage they reuse from their own videos lol

  • @im.weasel
    @im.weasel 4 роки тому +233

    Source is still my favourite CS.

    • @oofingberg
      @oofingberg 4 роки тому +1

      Mine too CSGOs hit detection is bad in css when you hit someone you hit not like csgo where sometimes the game just says na it didn't

    • @xpk0228
      @xpk0228 4 роки тому +1

      @@oofingbergmaybe it's because the source's hitboxes is much bigger than player model. That's why I can constantly score headshots on source while suck at GO

    • @therm0alfred448
      @therm0alfred448 4 роки тому

      @@xpk0228 well, GO has this random time that most of your shot just when through player's head.

  • @corpsecandy2076
    @corpsecandy2076 4 роки тому +43

    The one thing I always liked about source for some reason, was the graphics. I think it looks better than csgo personally. Has a really nice style imo.

    • @Skrenja
      @Skrenja 4 роки тому +13

      Dabbing Cadaver Agreed. The maps were so vivid and the guns (besides being left handed) look way more like their real life versions.

  • @LOLYOU1337
    @LOLYOU1337 4 роки тому +392

    I feel this video is pretty biased. Should've included some Source players takes on the subject imo. Personally my favorite CS is Source Pre-2010 OrangeBox, an update which made it run/look worse and added useless shit like achievements, and honestly don't think CS:GO really has anything on Source except money from skins. Also I believe Source has a arguably smoother feel where CS:GO has a clunky feeling in comparison. The peaking becoming more viable in Source(as said in the video) rather than cs1.6 just makes aggressive play more viable and is a preference of play style. The point of saying the Source deagle is over powered makes little sense to me(unlike the aug/krieg)(unlike CT pistal1shotVSglock2shot) both teams always had access to deagle, so saying its overpowered doesn't make sense(overpowered over what?) the ak was still one shot at further distance, ak>deagle(and only T's could buy ak). And insulting Source/players by calling it "straight casual trash" doesn't really mean anything except furthering your belief without adding another reasonable point. ANYWAY I don't think Cs1.6 or Source are trash but I think its trashy how Valve managed to resell CS a third time where its borderline exactly the same game as Source while cs1.6 -> css was a huge overhaul in terms of engine graphics physics etc. As a Source player, CS:GO just feels like a reskinned worse Source that's also used as a gambling ad/front. JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION AND TAKE sorry for ramble & much love❤️

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +23

      agreed ,i played source for 8 years and CSGO to me is a downgrade in so many ways....you really have to have had a lot of experience with CS source to know the specifics of why it was and still is a better game than CSGO.... experience that this video creator clearly did not have. There is a reason why most source players didn't switch to CSGO.... even when their was financial incentive.... they cant stand its inferior mechanics.

    • @Lotuseless
      @Lotuseless 4 роки тому +7

      haha very nice fart

    • @TheDBro
      @TheDBro 4 роки тому +2

      @huhuhu he is live on twitch as well a lot :)

    • @braddles
      @braddles 4 роки тому +5

      I can't play CS:GO after playing Source, the movement and gameplay is so bad compared to it.

    • @GamingFrag
      @GamingFrag 4 роки тому +8

      The movements of the source were wonderful, and the playstyle was much nicer. In csgo you see people killing you running (nosense). I loved that game so much.

  • @ryandastar
    @ryandastar 4 роки тому +33

    TSE: "Back when Valve actually developed games"
    Valve (2 days later): Oh yeah?!? Hold my beer and WATCH THIS.

  • @plffuihngiub43iio
    @plffuihngiub43iio 4 роки тому +71

    the gungame maps, minigames, and surf maps really made source awesome

  • @daniyalss
    @daniyalss 4 роки тому +135

    Phoon: *Am I a Joke to you?*

    • @MYG
      @MYG 4 роки тому

      They mentioned him

    • @geomidia8998
      @geomidia8998 4 роки тому +5

      Im kidding it's obvious

  • @sumant_warhekar
    @sumant_warhekar 4 роки тому +64

    1:08 clip is GOLD man 🤣🔥♥️

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru 4 роки тому +2

      shame that there is no Phoon video

  • @Jukkasd1
    @Jukkasd1 4 роки тому +20

    Source was awesome game on that time. No bs microtranactions or ads

    • @3n3rgy90
      @3n3rgy90 4 роки тому

      No it wasn't. The most important things in a shooter are good hitboxes and they sucked.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +6

      @@3n3rgy90 Hitboxes were fine after the game got patched. Also there is much more to what makes a good experience than just that, and CSGO lacks a lot of what CSS had mechanically the game feels shallow.

    • @ThatSteemBloke
      @ThatSteemBloke 4 роки тому

      @@anab0lic Disagree with you on that, just takes a long time to master them. GO mechanics are all about precision flicking and tracking, minor adjustments. Once you build up a feel for the mechanics, it's very rewarding.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому

      @@ThatSteemBloke there was MORE to master in CSS its actually why I dont care for CS:GO... the game feels very shallow and restrictive in comparison.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +2

      @@ThatSteemBloke CSS was about precision and flicking/tracking too, i played the game for nearly a decade I think I should know. lol

  • @IIWolFFinEII
    @IIWolFFinEII 4 роки тому +67

    Let’s just say in short: Source was different, but still a lot of Fun.

  • @double2254
    @double2254 4 роки тому +73

    So I’m guessing we are rotating hosts every few months?

    • @tonytoronto1401
      @tonytoronto1401 4 роки тому +1

      On the daily it seems, can't keep up anymore

    • @zilliq
      @zilliq 4 роки тому

      Dimitri is bae but Miles > Dimitri

  • @shaunh1820
    @shaunh1820 4 роки тому +66

    awenswer to intro question: rocochet, artifact

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 4 роки тому

      Ricochet: source

    • @MegaLarriot
      @MegaLarriot 4 роки тому +1

      what the hell ricochet was sick as fuck

  • @ImmortalMatrix
    @ImmortalMatrix 4 роки тому +32

    CS:Source is one of my favorite games of all time :O

  • @dplx2660
    @dplx2660 4 роки тому +17

    Source is my favorite counter strike

    • @dplx2660
      @dplx2660 4 роки тому +2

      Between the 2 of course

  • @bakesy515
    @bakesy515 4 роки тому +16

    Whenever I meet someone who liked Source: "Ah I see you're a man of culture as well"

    • @bunnyhop4938
      @bunnyhop4938 4 роки тому +1

      1.6 >>> Source. Source was the beginning of the dumbing down of the CS franchise.

    • @AcikaGamerSRB
      @AcikaGamerSRB 3 роки тому

      @@bunnyhop4938 lol

    • @andrew_ohyara
      @andrew_ohyara 3 роки тому

      @@bunnyhop4938 cpp ?

    • @bunnyhop4938
      @bunnyhop4938 3 роки тому

      @@andrew_ohyara 1.6 is so much better than source, valve messed up CSS and showed they don't understand what makes a good CS game.

    • @Hal0Sux
      @Hal0Sux 3 роки тому +4

      if you hate source you hate fun

  • @aidandowdall1504
    @aidandowdall1504 4 роки тому +19

    Sources movement tho is amazing for surf and hop

  • @lmcg2788
    @lmcg2788 4 роки тому +74

    So Global is the smash ultimate of fps, and 1.6 is melee and source is smash 4/brawl (up to an extent of course)

    • @3n3rgy90
      @3n3rgy90 4 роки тому +11

      yeah, good comparison

    • @donatopirrod
      @donatopirrod 4 роки тому

      You get the point.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +1

      nope, global just got big because of skins, it didn't attract people for its gameplay. Many ex pro players of CS myself included think CSGO its the worst thing that happened to counterstrike.

    • @ThatSteemBloke
      @ThatSteemBloke 4 роки тому +8

      @@anab0lic Just because skins made CSGO a lot more popular doesn't mean the game isn't competitive. On launch the game was terrible but modern day CS is hard to fault from a competitive standpoint, the SG being the only thing that comes to mind as of late.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +1

      @@ThatSteemBloke The point is though its skins that made the community grow NOT its gameplay.... if you have to bribe people to play with a gimmick like that...what does that say about where its lacking in other areas? And there are plenty of faults with CSGO, many ways in which it is inferior to CSS.... YEs much has been improved since its launch but its core gameplay is still worse than Source.

  • @absolutelyretardedskeletor
    @absolutelyretardedskeletor 2 роки тому +10

    In my heart, it's still the best game I'ver played in my childhood.

    • @PunchBrother
      @PunchBrother 2 роки тому

      i was born during that time and can confirm source is still da best for its known graphics and low end pc support

  • @World_End3r_Aatrox
    @World_End3r_Aatrox 4 роки тому +27

    Imagine talking shit for the best game released ever damn...

    • @codebreaker710
      @codebreaker710 4 роки тому +1

      Gl1tch' uuuhhh Minecraft wasn’t even mentioned

    • @ohimfinnadie
      @ohimfinnadie 4 роки тому +4

      @@codebreaker710 *get out*

    • @bunnyhop4938
      @bunnyhop4938 3 роки тому

      Well source is a shit cs game so yeah.......

  • @Diavolo222
    @Diavolo222 4 роки тому +1

    I respect theScore so much. Started as an APP just getting publicity at events and now you guys have so many high quality videos and you can see that work is being put in them. Hope you guys stay with us for a long time. Much love.

  • @Prince.Claveria
    @Prince.Claveria 4 роки тому +44

    I love the part when they say
    *S A U C E*

  • @tickshot
    @tickshot 4 роки тому +32

    The moment this vid was uploaded CS was top on steam highest played chart

    • @recarored9862
      @recarored9862 4 роки тому +1

      I think it already was in october, before the video.

    • @stillnotchill2560
      @stillnotchill2560 4 роки тому

      It was before

    • @a.q.2330
      @a.q.2330 4 роки тому

      I check steam charts regularly and CS is usually the most played.

  • @mozan4469
    @mozan4469 4 роки тому +9

    Could you talk about Wolfenstein enemy territory? Looks like nobody talks about their crutial part in competetive scene

  • @justinreyes5042
    @justinreyes5042 4 роки тому +8

    I swear when I saw 1.6 upgraded to source, I thought it looked and played amazing..revolutionary almost

  • @berdugong-druglordmanyakis1608
    @berdugong-druglordmanyakis1608 4 роки тому +4

    Source has lots of amazing and fascinating maps: night_ambush v2, de_matrix11, kismayo, de_s2s, b747, nightfever, lost, deadhouse, militia, beirut, abbotabad among others..

  • @MAXOHNO
    @MAXOHNO 4 роки тому +20

    Could you do a The Story of ScreaM Video? I think it could get pretty interesting since he was a long time pro player but never won any major and currently struggles to play professional, since Team GamerLegion put him out of the active roaster.

    • @Premystic
      @Premystic 4 роки тому +6

      " The Story of " videos are made only on players who did significant amount on time on the pro scene and are still playing for a Tier 1 team or retired from a Tier 1 team .
      Scream played good and got highly overrated during 15-17 . There are a lot of people who have played like a god in a particular patch of time but didnt maintain it . " The story of " videos are not for those my friend .

    • @MAXOHNO
      @MAXOHNO 4 роки тому

      @@Premystic Oh really? Didn't know that.

    • @Premystic
      @Premystic 4 роки тому +1

      @@MAXOHNO Yes you can check all " The story of " players . All of them are either major winners or tier 1 pros or retired from a tier 1 side .
      Scream is benched from a tier 2/3 csgo team . Think about it . He should be starting every match . He got famous due to some sick plays on LAN and online against people who dont play this game that seriously for a living . Sick aim doesnt work in pro scene where every almost anyone has insane aim .

    • @flaminghedgehog65
      @flaminghedgehog65 4 роки тому

      @@Premystic How come Twistzz got a video for it then?

    • @Premystic
      @Premystic 4 роки тому +1

      @@flaminghedgehog65 Playing for Team Liquid ( Tier 1 team ) + 9 lan trophies at 20 years of age . I think they gave him the video too early .

  • @_FunctionONE
    @_FunctionONE 2 роки тому +2

    Each CS release is an animal of its own. Wish the community felt the same way instead playing favorites. Source was underrated.

  • @I_hunt_lolis
    @I_hunt_lolis 2 роки тому +5

    Loved CSS, graphics were amazing for 2004

  • @eternitynaut
    @eternitynaut 8 місяців тому +1

    Valve went crazy with physics as part of the new Source engine in Half Life and showcased it in CS Source while also making some less than inspired choice when it comes to movement. Basically they littered the main maps with props that obstructed movement and introduced randomness (barrels, small trash that makes you rise in height and screws the crosshair position, etc.) and added the "slow down" mechanic when moving, that is when you stopped the player avatar didn't and moved with momentum a tiny bit which made the crosshair settle a bit later making you miss shots, this didn't exist prior and made for less precise gameplay. People who say it was easier are lying, it was easier to get good in 1.6

  • @rajatmondal3547
    @rajatmondal3547 4 роки тому +3

    I played source for 1 year first then introduced to 1.6 thanks to 2 of my friends laptop unable to run source. And I have to say there is something different about 1.6. It is special. It gives the same feel of aoe2 or gta vice city or COD modernwarfare 1. Though these games are old, they are just special.

  • @breakfast4759
    @breakfast4759 Рік тому +4

    Source was the first cs I’ve played so I’m bias but shit was so addictive imo

  • @AEPMUSlC
    @AEPMUSlC 2 роки тому +1

    I have over 2.5k hours in CSS, there were so much to do there with all these game modes and mods. Zombie, surf, GG, bhop, jailbreak, minigames, rpg, combinations of these, etc. I remember many of the maps of themself could be really creative and interesting too. Definitely worth the few bucks I spent on it as a kid in 2006

  • @m.x.
    @m.x. 4 роки тому +15

    Such an ignorant statement. CSS was actually pretty OK, and in many ways even more fun than CS.

  • @Wokegooglers
    @Wokegooglers 4 роки тому +3

    Tldw: Source is only a failure if you’re a pro competitive player. If you’re a casual player than it’s okay or good

  • @Tomasz987987
    @Tomasz987987 4 роки тому +18

    Cs:S was the best cs ever!

  • @alley562
    @alley562 4 роки тому +2

    source was basically my childhood game. spent my time playing zombie escape. i miss those days

  • @gimstin630
    @gimstin630 4 роки тому +2

    When you forget the channel is Canadian but then they show a clip of the Red and Green Show

  • @nyl0n733
    @nyl0n733 4 роки тому +6

    1:41, that AK sounds like the one in CSGO

    • @MondySpartan
      @MondySpartan 4 роки тому +2

      It's dubbed over. In fact, the original video/trailer had background music.

  • @catowarmeowson9964
    @catowarmeowson9964 4 роки тому +7

    As one of the 3 people playing artifact that open makes me sad cus its true

  • @iamshashankupadhyay
    @iamshashankupadhyay 4 роки тому

    The bts on this channel after every video is pure gold 😂

  • @Ziiiko
    @Ziiiko 4 роки тому +1

    Source is the most fun i had playing any of the counter strike games. Bhop, minigames, surf, jail, soccer, list goes on. You would see the same people play everyday on the same server.

  • @juGGaKNotEmpire
    @juGGaKNotEmpire 4 роки тому +5

    moe was in a top source team, let that sink in before saying it was good.

  • @kunaii_cs
    @kunaii_cs 4 роки тому +4

    I started playing competatively through Source. In my opinion one of the best FPS multiplayer game ever created.

  • @nathanlouie582
    @nathanlouie582 4 роки тому +2

    I miss how pretty much every gun was so op in source. Good memories there

  • @Cook1eSP
    @Cook1eSP 4 роки тому

    Loving the editing

  • @ZooL_Smith
    @ZooL_Smith 4 роки тому +8

    Funny thing is that Condition Zero fixed a lot of 1.6 balance and exploits and is technically superior... it just released too late and unfinished... could have been a good alternative if it released before 1.6 (CZ was in development long before 1.6 released and was meant to be the retail version, instead it was stripped down and became 1.6 -> CZ became something else)

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 8 місяців тому

      True.This is the exact reason why I liked cscz more.Cause the bullet registration,grenade throw,texture etc. felt polished on that game.Also the ai was good too.

  • @franzcardoz6373
    @franzcardoz6373 4 роки тому +3

    Out of my way son.. THE DOOR'S STUCK

  • @TAAB11
    @TAAB11 4 роки тому +2

    From a 1.6 prospective source was really bad, but i still managed to have fun in the game playing surf maps and what not.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +2

      from 1.6 perspective i prefered source because it has MORE in common with the feel and mechanics of the original....CSGO feels like an entirely different worse game.

    • @stellaroj
      @stellaroj 4 роки тому

      Surf maps were the only reason I ever loaded Source up.

  • @pauliewalnuts5868
    @pauliewalnuts5868 3 роки тому +1

    Source was the best one,its details are the thing that made me love it,like looking through a window and seeing 3 terrorists start shooting,then seeing the glass shatter,your teammate dies,blood,glass,bullets going everywhere,just made it feel so fun

  • @B055C0E
    @B055C0E 4 роки тому +8

    Please no flexing on my source. That game was one of the greatest games ever made in the early 2000's

  • @Dunkiep8
    @Dunkiep8 4 роки тому +8

    I thought Condition Zero was the one that everyone hated? (I still like that one too just like Source)

    • @Okieant
      @Okieant 4 роки тому +5

      CZ was just reskinned 1.6 with shit sounds and player models. We realized we could just keep playing 1.6.

  • @blader3
    @blader3 4 роки тому

    Zombie and Prison maps were some on the most fun i've had playing online with random people.

  • @imissyoyballistichiganbana
    @imissyoyballistichiganbana 4 роки тому +1

    CS:S was my childhood and even the first game I have ever played. If my cousin didn't introduced me Source, I would'nt be the gamer I am now...

  • @stefanSS1480
    @stefanSS1480 4 роки тому +3

    I hate css because I always get killed by some run and gun idiot and because there is no fixed reciol pattern, also hit boxes make up for lucky noobs to headshot easily.

  • @mohki6973
    @mohki6973 4 роки тому +5

    Oh you play Counterstrike? “Yea I play source”
    Everyone ever to exist: confused noises

    • @Eminence_1337
      @Eminence_1337 4 роки тому +1

      The Army Yup same thing for WoW, "You play WoW? Do you pvp?" "Nah I raid" ZzZ

  • @lowerpower2528
    @lowerpower2528 4 роки тому +1

    played 1.5 and 1.6 only in computer clubs at 1st half of 00x. After i got my own pc at birthday in 2007, and since that time i have played cs source. ESL deagle/awp ladder, 1x1 2x2 leagues, fast mix, spending hours on awp/noscope/bhop servers - old sweet memories. There wasnt ranked system or skins, people just played cs source for competition and enjoyment. Even i remember when i played fast mixes and actually know some people by names/nicknames, there was some kinda atmosphere. Eh

  • @fabienpoupon8493
    @fabienpoupon8493 Рік тому +1

    This stupid war was probably the explanation on why Valve never imported all the official 1.6 maps to CSS and pretty much dumped the game after the release of cs_militia in early 2006 or 2007. That's why I never bought CSGO : I didn't want to pay twice for roughly the same game.
    And what about CSPromod, the source mod made by 1.6 purists who claimed that CSS needed to much ressources to run smoothly on computers ? They remade the same empty and ugly maps from 1.6 into source but, if I remember well, the mod was full of glitches and dumped too.

  • @archer454
    @archer454 4 роки тому +9

    I always really liked source. It was the game that got me into CS honestly.

  • @mattdooley8707
    @mattdooley8707 4 роки тому +3

    source is literally my fav CS ever

  • @JohnDavis-cw4nn
    @JohnDavis-cw4nn 3 роки тому

    The fact you guys used that Gucci mane meme made me lol so hard

  • @canadadry4942
    @canadadry4942 4 роки тому

    0:43 what game is that?

  • @MrMiouwe
    @MrMiouwe 4 роки тому +7

    source was just the best when it came to game mods, let alone the hours i wasted in zombie escape maps.

  • @blackestmamba
    @blackestmamba 2 роки тому +3

    Source was a beautiful game, specially when it came to the community.

  • @RDTengineered
    @RDTengineered 2 роки тому

    I thought I had seen every Red Green episode but that car with belt around it I do not remember @5:08

  • @socvirnylestela5878
    @socvirnylestela5878 4 роки тому +1

    most accurate. i tried playing source for 3 years and i got shookt of how ez it was compared to 1.6 when i was 7 yrs old

  • @frosteryoutube1551
    @frosteryoutube1551 4 роки тому +4

    Here's why I like Source:
    No shield.

  • @NeweyAdrian1
    @NeweyAdrian1 4 роки тому +3

    I have 9000 hours in css, the game is amazing

  • @skibiditoiletsigma88
    @skibiditoiletsigma88 3 роки тому

    1:05 why did you remove the best part

  • @mattska8358
    @mattska8358 4 роки тому

    Dimitri's hair looks like that new master agent skin

  • @dR3F
    @dR3F 4 роки тому +3

    1.6 or Source?
    Pfff... 1.5 please!

    • @Okieant
      @Okieant 4 роки тому

      1.5 was great but broken. 1.6 fixed a lot of stuff. The awp quickswitch bug was fun to abuse but made people like KSharp OP

  • @tothemoon3575
    @tothemoon3575 4 роки тому +6

    I actually really liked CS:S as kid but playing it again after a long time, it does feel like shit.

    • @Neyon3D
      @Neyon3D 4 роки тому +6

      that's because valve purposely broke it. that shit's not the same

    • @TheSolidlad
      @TheSolidlad 4 роки тому +4

      @@Neyon3D yep, 2010 update ruined the game...
      setting -dxlevel 81 in launch options makes it a lot better tho

  • @sirsloth4351
    @sirsloth4351 4 роки тому +2

    Source was my childhood...

  • @peaceandwealthseeker4504
    @peaceandwealthseeker4504 4 роки тому

    I recall the bullet damage early on with smgs being so high

  • @zeppelin0110
    @zeppelin0110 3 роки тому +6

    This video was so on point, I can't even. 1.6 was the best. Css was sorta fun but too casual and weird. CsGo intermarried both games.

  • @Koookiez
    @Koookiez 4 роки тому +6

    Aww man i love Zombie Escape on source

  • @mrkruzjr
    @mrkruzjr 4 роки тому

    2:20 I had to rewind that so many times cause I couldnt understand what he was saying

  • @Asdf-wf6en
    @Asdf-wf6en 3 роки тому +1

    2:30 uh why did the maverick have the new ak47 sound.

  • @InfiniteCS
    @InfiniteCS 4 роки тому +4

    Source was never that bad, i always enjoyed source it just was easier than the others

  • @hectorgravesantiagonil2118
    @hectorgravesantiagonil2118 4 роки тому +4

    Source was an abomination of the original Counter-Strike, there's no comparison at all. The engine alone makes the difference. Source engine is and will never be as good as the Half-Life engine, the netcode in the Half-Life engine was from Quake. New netcode is Valve trash, because they don't care about people with good/fast internet, they only care about allowing people with shit connections (100+ ping) have a better experience than someone with 10ms, because that opens up to more potential buyers and users of your product.

    • @politicalwatchglobal3509
      @politicalwatchglobal3509 4 роки тому +1

      Totally and it makes sense that source players became best at CSGO because it is more source than 1.6

    • @kenmarkollano5795
      @kenmarkollano5795 4 роки тому

      The source engine is the best and still used to this day.

    • @hectorgravesantiagonil2118
      @hectorgravesantiagonil2118 4 роки тому +1

      @@kenmarkollano5795 No. It is trash, subpar Indie standard, way far behind in technology. No one with respect for themselves would use it, only modders and hobby creators.

  • @MatthewTheUntitled
    @MatthewTheUntitled 4 роки тому

    I like how you don't swear at all so when you said "fucking" at 1:33 it had a nice narrative impact

  • @cabby007
    @cabby007 4 роки тому +1

    I played a shit tonne of source, majority was warcraft 3 mod, gun game (which IMO is the bet version of gun game ever made), jailbreak, surfing and random ISP owned servers (where mods would actually play and control servers). I played some online local comps but source was all about community. Everyone knew the pros played 1.6 and CSS was all about the masses.

  • @odrater6698
    @odrater6698 4 роки тому +6

    Source is the best of them all. Good graphics, good FPS, easy to understand hard to master, hitboxes weren't that bad idk why everyone complains about them and the community servers were just pure gold. Meanwhile CS 1.6, shit graphics, weird hitboxes ( every fking time I had my crosshair on the enemies' head he just wouldn't die cause the hitbox was different), wallbangs everywhere and tactical shield. CsGO is also not that good. The hitboxes are still buggy, it took a lot to fix the smoke but and we have the SG553 which is pretty bullshit rn

  • @zpoxthedark7074
    @zpoxthedark7074 4 роки тому +5

    Smash Players:
    "First time?"

    • @gime114
      @gime114 4 роки тому

      Didn't this all happen before smash?

    • @coolcool5181
      @coolcool5181 4 роки тому

      @@gime114 Yes, this was. Smash's civil war only started around 2008 when Smash Bros: Brawl came out and only really picked up speed with the tournament "Revival of Melee" in 2009.

  • @TIMP91
    @TIMP91 4 роки тому

    Wow, I really forgot CS:CZ until the end :D

  • @dasdaspree1847
    @dasdaspree1847 4 роки тому +2

    Bro, My First CS game is Condition Zero and Condition Zero: Deleted Scenes :(