The Rapture's TIMELINE and The Horsemen of Revelation | Revelation Ch 5 and 6 | Lesson 14
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- The various hypotheses of the Rapture's Timeline, explained from a Biblical Perspective. In this video, Tom Bradford, will be addressing the different positions about the timeline concerning the Rapture and which of them is most certainly accurate according to the Bible.
He will also be breaking down key passages about the first four horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Join us in this Bible Study on Revelation 5 and 6.
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A huge blessing is what you are Tom.
Seems to me like these "Higher Beings" have an insatiable desire for human blood. BOTH sides leave a terrible blood trail all the way to armageddon. As a hunter, I followed the human blood trails.
I guess we find out which is bad cop, which is good cop.
Who did you say created satan? Who did you say created tree of evil? Oh it was good also? When do we see that part?
Best part is e1 gets cast in Hell for some act 5,994 yrs ago. *I really like that part. That is in itself "Pagan justice".
The human blood trails following the Scriptures are pretty terrible
I like the way you break down every word to clear any possible confusion. Good work!
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May God bless you and your ministry 🙏
Thank you, Tom. You are greatly loved.
Thank you so much Man of God Tom. Praise to the Lord Jesus
I love listening to your teaching !!
So glad you're enjoying the teachings. Wishing you blessings and shalom!
Thank you for another excellent teaching!
This is a SOLID teaching on these chapters, very awesome!❤❤
Thank you and shalom!
The "KEY" to understanding timing of events described in Revelation is in the way John is told to separate these events into three time specific categories and do not mix or confuse events from one to another. The three categories are: Write the things you have seen (past), the things which are now (present), and the things which shall be hereafter (future). John describes the things he had seen first, then records the messages to the seven churches. Once that is done, he writes, "AFTER THIS..." This tells us that what follows is after the church age. We, therefore, are still in the time of "things that are now" and AFTER THIS, a door is opened in heaven, and a voice like a trumpet calls us up, and we are caught up and now are seen as the 24 elders. Only then will the seals be opened. They can not be opened during the "things that are now" time.
Revelation 4:1 KJV
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Excellent teaching !
Thank you 🙏
I recently found this channel. It's great blessed to follow Mr. Tom's teaching. Your passion is similar as of the great Chuck Missler ❤. 😊
Funny how we have seen elements of these things over the last 4 years and still ongoing. The laurel wreath crown is symbolic of victory associated with Apollo - Olympics and the UN has it as an emblem but it's described as olive and means peace, strangely they both look the same!
Before you start here is when the rapture happens. Revelation 11 when the two dead witnesses life returns to them and the voice from the clouds says: COME UP HERE!
@@Tishri21 unfortunately you have the doctrines of many men. read the bible and pray that Yeshua by His Set Apart Spirit teaches you. You and many others over the years have come at me with the doctrine of demons. I understand clearly. Why? Once I was a great late planet earth doctrine pedler. I believed that rapture doctrine to be the truth because how could so many preachers have the same story. But, when I read the bible and asked the tough questions of you say this, but the bible says this. So help me understand. I was unceremoniously slapped down. Eventually, excommunicated! In those two brief events I have to ask you one question. What part of humiliating me for asking questions so I could understand? Where is the love of Elohim and His Salvation in these two examples? For the sake of time I will guide you for this moment. Do you know John 10:10? It goes something like this: The thief comes but to steal and to kill and to destroy, but I have come that you might have life abundantly. These words, these truths are in red if you use a red letter bible for the words of Jesus. I have graduated to a modern english bible called: The Scriptures and I use it through Biblehub and there you can find it listed as The Institute for Scripture Research. ISR. Further, I have a hard copy too.
No Tishri21 I have no desire to mislead you. You have a hunger. That hunger needs fed with the truth. I have watched Tom Bradford since 2015-16 and studied much of the old testament with Tom teaching it. But, by studying the bible and trusting John 14 to be truth I have learned that Tom sometimes is simply wrong. But, he is human like us. With that said, me, david is often times wrong as well. At that time, that is death or the catching away you, me Tom and an entire world of the dead in Messiah and the living serving Him will see Him and Hear Him call us up to meet Him in the clouds.
Have a blessed and wonderful Sabbath. Shabbat Shalom Tishri21.
david.
Not sure why he doesn't see the 7 years as the 70'th week of Daniel given to Israel, only the last 3.5 years are referred to as the Great tribulation.
The church is in heaven from Rev 4 on, represented by the 24 elders.
God isn't sending "evil" upon the earth, it is God's judgement and wrath.
The scroll is written on BOTH sides... therefore it is a marriage covenant - as this was one of the few times they wrote in both sides.
24... 'books' of the original Hebrew Bible. Also the number of the tribes as well as the hours of the day. All of which refer to 'redemption' of ALL things.
The angels represent all of the 'messages of messengers' that have been sent to 'manage' God's creation. Jesus is called 'LORD' because He is the physical manifestation of the Word and thus Law of God.
Appreciate how the teaching is explained in an understandable way
Thank you Rabbi, great teaching!
Excellent teaching.
Yashua told us himself, when we would be caught up and gathered unto Himself!!! " when you least expect it"! Yahweh the father is the desider of when the groom Yashua is to snatch away His Bride!!! Just be eagerly, looking for His appearance!!! Shalom, Shalom.
Could the Rapture be synonymous with The Greater or Second Exodus?
The traditions of men hold that John wrote the book of Revelation around 95 AD to his Jewish believers , but there are those , like Matthew MC Gee , who believe it was written while Paul was alive around 57 AD and writing to Gentile believers .There are many reasons for believing this and you’d have to read his thesis for yourself , I have and it is eye opening and changes a lot things ! John
@TorahClass where could I buy a complete Jewish Bible? Any recommendations for a specific one.
Hello! If you're interested, we have a sister ministry called Holyland Marketplace that sells it. They are a non-profit and the proceeds go to support small businesses in Israel. Most of their products are from Israel. Here's a link: holylandmarketplace.com/collections/books-bibles-bibles-complete-jewish-bible
Thanks. I will definitely check it out. You do a great job of explaining things in your studies. Keep up the great work.🙏
Revelation 6 is post-trib (the "cosmic signs" parallel Matthew 24 "immediately after the tribulation").
The "bow" symbolizes LONG DISTANCE COMBAT (sword = close combat) = fighting over a long period of time (centuries).
Notice the arrow is missing
I do too Rabbi, I believe in the pretribe Rapture, For God tells us who tribulation is for it is for nonbelievers and children of disobedience! Alot of people try to say God's wraths come later in chapter 16 and 17 of revelation, I believe that is those who have came to know God and made themselves ready for the marriage supper during tribulation. So many will be saved during Tribulation and come to the knowledge of God. they will go into the 1000 year Millennial reign with us who went in the rapture.
Mr. Tom, when The Lamb took the scroll and everything on earth shouted praise, John heard this. Do you think everyone living on earth heard it as well?
In the parable of the wheat and weeds.. which ones does Jesus tell the reapers to deal with first? Which one of these two are you?
excellent comment !! the tares are gathered first and burned. Just like it will be now through the rest of the tribulation..
Maybe u wanna actually be left Behind
Yes, the one taken dies. The one left behind endures to the end !!@@rocdajacable
Bow in Greek is Toxon. Crown in Latin is Corona (Kroine)
Look at the LXX Greek. Bow is what is used to describe the rainbow in Gen 9:13. A sign of a covenant. What does antichrist come with?????
The perverted rainbow as well if you know that the Bow is also a Snare.
Thusly those who have adopted the 🌈 and perverted it have already been caught in a snare by their own personal choice.
The white horse is likely the “Elijah-type” who Malachi said would come BEFORE the great and terrible day of the Lord, excluding this from being a reference to a possible reappearance of the original Elijah as one of the two witnesses, which do their work DURING the great and terrible day of the Lord. When the disciples asked Jesus why the scribes say that Elijah must come first, although He acknowledged John the Baptist as an Elijah, He yet spoke in future tense of an Elijah who will not only come first, but will restore all things, presumably a restoration of faith as we head into very dark days. The rapture appears to be a sixth seal event from all evidence I can find in Scripture, so there will be trying times on earth for believers and non-believers, but this is when we do our work. And I think “not harming the oil and wine,” rather than being evidence that wealthy people will be okay, is instead a Psalm 91-level promise to believers that we will be supernaturally enabled during these difficult times. I see oil and wine (the very things the Samaritan used to heal the beaten man) as representing the Holy Spirit and the gospel message of salvation through faith in Christ’s work on the cross, and it is THESE that won’t be harmed, at least during that phase of time. The word being translated as “damaged” when the instruction to not damage the oil and wine translates more accurately to “offend.” You can’t offend inanimate oil and wine. This truly seems to be representative language. A “Saul” is about to be crowned. But a “David” is coming shortly after. There are two comings of Christ, so it’s reasonable that there will be two forerunning Elijah-types, and John the Baptist was the first, but he is not a complete fulfillment of Malachi’s dual prophecy. Otherwise, Jesus would not have said in future tense, AFTER John had already been killed, that Elijah in deed comes first and restores all things. An Elijah is coming, but be wise as serpents. He isn’t the one masquerading as light who is running for president. That’s more likely the Saul that God is about to judge the Church through, because we, America, the nation state of Israel, and much of the world, have our hope in a man, which brings a curse according to Jeremiah 17. Much of Satan’s evil (the obvious stuff) was devised so that the Enemy’s own man could stand in opposition to it and gain a following, but it looks more like a falling away from simple faith in Christ to me, in trade for a comfort zone that we were not promised in this life. God is testing our hearts, and millions are failing. But during the testing, an answer will appear, and THIS will most likely be that rider on the white horse, who is said to be going out “overcoming and to overcome” …same Greek word used earlier in Revelation for what Jesus advised us to be doing. “Conquering” is probably not the best translation for what the rider is doing. And he DOES have arrows. And it’s the sharp Word of God at the tip of every one of them. God Bless ❤❤
I have a very important question ❤ what do you think Yeshua meant when he said in Matthew that if the length of the tribulation had not been limited, no one would survive. He said that before John's vision of the end times, so I wonder if the Rev. Quoted years was already cut short, or if it's to be cut short.
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He was talking about the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 that was a terrible time for the Jews in that century! Just read Josephus and you will understand why the Lord said that ✝️🙏
@@brendaevans1378 but he was mostly talking about the end days too. I have the Apocrypha, where can I find books like Josephus?
With the rider of the white horse, what do you make of the word bow? It is in the Greek, toxon. This means, a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric). So what is this fabric? And how can it mean a bow of war?
Maybe the lgbq rainbow?
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Great class! What is your thoughts on The Book of Mormon teacher?
Trouble maker! 😁 Can we tackle one end time at a time?? LOL
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Tom, many times have I heard you use the term Planet Earth. This word is never used in scripture in reference to the Earth. Why do you use it?
But he does cause it to rain upon the just and the unjust.
Torah Class: In Dec. of 2012-2017 the Lord by the Holy Spirit revealed the end times and the positional timing of rapture to me via His written word. The bottom line is this: rapture comes after the first tribulation, between that tribulation and great tribulation, then comes His wrath, which is reserved for the ungodly and the disobedient children, followed by the Second Coming of Christ.
Who is worthy to be Raptured. Only GOD ALMIGHTY knows. COME LORD JESUS. Amen!
Why does no one ask the question, "What is the primary PURPOSE of "tribulation" and/or God's "Wrath". Do they share the same purpose of disciplining a lack of Faith/temporary rebellion in order to bring a remnant to fulfilled faith? Or is the purpose to judge those who have ALREADY been deemed by God condemned blasphemers?
Can these purposes work together and overlap? Will the stiff-necked elect learn from their witnessing and (partial?) sharing in the suffering of those at whom God directs His wrath? (In which case it woukd be a time of Wrath for the judged, but a time of discipline for those elect remnant who respond).
Is there a scriptural, etemological justification for calling God's "discipline" of those who will be saved/disciplined resulting in witnesses being saved, His "Wrath"? Where does "Discipline" end and "Wrath" begin?
Personally, I believe as long as their are witnesses who can become a remnant through trial/tribulation/discipline, I would tend to lump "Wrath" and "Discipline" together UNTIL such time as God performs the Great White Throne Judgment and the final separation of faithful from rebel is made.
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Seems like this guy doesn't understand the very bible he is teaching from🤔 Mt. 24:37-39 if we go back to genesis in the days of Noah who was tooken and who was left behind. All the wicked were taken and only 8 souls were left behind to go through the storm. #NoRapture #prepare we are in Jacob's trouble we will go through fire wake up
Don't hold your breath for the rapture to happen.
Koosss.THEREFORE encourage each other with these words..LOL..?
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, and 1Corinthians 15:50-55. How does this fit in to the Rapture of the church After the 4 horseman? I believe the Rapture will occur just Before this not after. At best immediately after the Rapture.
"Do you think I have not come to bring peace on earth? No but rather division..."Luke 12 vs 51. "I came to cast fire upon the earth and would that... Luke 12. Vs 49. !
Soon |after the trouble of those days,| the sun will grow dark, the moon will no longer shine, the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers in space will be driven from their courses. 30 *Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky; and all the peoples of earth will weep as they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 The great trumpet will sound, and he will send out his angels to the four corners of the earth, and they will gather his chosen people from one end of the world to the other.
Confused rapture is nowhere in the Bible. Come about in the 1800. Explain please thank you
Revelation 5:9-10
And they sang a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for You were slain, and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every ethnicity, and language, and people, and nation; 10 and have made us kings and priests unto our God: and we shall reign on the Earth.
(And we will only reign on the earth, when we reign with the returned Messiah Yeshua.) So if we return with the Lord, we obviously had to be with Him in heaven first, and there we are pictured as worshipping the Lamb of God with the four living creatures around the throne of God.
Notice how from the time after the worship songs were sung and the Lamb of God approaches the throne to receive the scroll with the seven seals, the church is not mentioned once again until chapter 19, and again we are in heaven with Yeshua, after which we return to the Earth with the Lord and in Zechariah 14 we pick up the story where we follow the Lord onto the Mount of Olives when He splits the mountain in half from east to west, and the river is flowing from the valley from under the Temple Mount and turns the Desd Sea into the best fishery on earth.
I read that pasage from Isaiah 45:7 to my Christian group of men and they look like they have never seen it in the Bible before. They can't get their mind around God creating something רע=evil. They fail to understand that while God does no evil, He can use evil, and even the shedim to do His work. After all, the devil himself belongs to God. These unclean spirits bring fear and dread into men's hearts and drive them either further away from God, or they drive us toward Him for protection and forgiveness. 39:08
I have to take a moment to comment on your interpretation of the white horse and rider.
I do agree that this rider comes with a great deception and following its deception, war, famine, and ultimate destruction. But we need to consider the word bow for a second.
In the strongs concordance the word bow (G5115 toxon base word G5088 tikto) is more likely interpreted as a covenant. Tikto loosely means, "to bring forth. Toxon in the LXX Greek is Similar to the "bow" that was given as a covenant between God and humanity after the account of Noah and the flood. This is the bow representative of a covenant. Like Satan intends to mimic God, to become like him, I believe this most closely resembles the antichrist, as he comes with a covenant of peace and is given dominion. He conquers and is given power. As in Matthew 24, His covenant with Israel ultimately leads to destruction, by way of deception. Revelation 6 and Matthew 24 mirror each other perfectly. The antichrist is what sets off tribulation. First 3.5 years of false peace, followed by a time of persecution and desteuction not seen ever in history.
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With what I seen, it's not long. I asked God for a sign about the rapture, and God has beem showing me clouds in the shape of number in relations to remaining years to the rapture and the tribulation. Now I don't know the day nor the hour but I can give you a range. Last year God was showing me through out it a 3, 9, 7
3 for amount years from 2023.
7 for the refernces to the tribulation
9 for return of Christ at the end.
Last december I was shown a cloud in the shapeof 3 again at the begining of the month but later in it, I was shown a cloud in the shape of 2.
Lately God has shown many 2's all in one day along but with many 7 as well. From what I am seeing its around the tail end of 2026. Remember though that God goes according to His Time and not mans calander.
My question is why are we using the word rapture at all when it doesn't even appear in scripture?
It does appear in the Greek as Harpzo and the Latin as Rapurp. In English its in the mean who h is “caught up” or a snatching away.
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Shalom, the hidden prophecy at the end of Isaiah 26, gives us the timeline of the Rapture.
Which is exactly parallel to 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
Isaiah 26:19-21
v. 19 - Resurrection of believers
Your dead shall live; Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust; For your dew is like the dew
of herbs, And the earth shall cast out the dead.
v. 20 - The Rapture
COME, my people, enter your chambers, (John 14:2)
And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
v. 21 - Tribulation Begins on earth.
For behold, the Lord comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth
for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood, And will no more cover her slain.
Yeshua bless you all, see you in HEAVEN SOON! Maranatha!
And nothing you cited gives any time of events at all. There is no rapture. It's a false doctrine started by John Darby around 1830. Prior to then the church had NEVER heard of the rapture.
Can't stand the truth huh ?
Thr rapture is a LIE.
@@YeshuasTrueWay (?) I gave the truth right out of HIS WORD. 1 Thess. 4:13-18 complements Isaiah's Prophecy at 26:19-21
The resurrection was fulfilled in the first century. You take metamorphic language and literalize it. Our salvation is not literally about our human corpses that have decayed, coming out of earthly or watery graves.
The physical life, death and resurrection of Jesus was real, however, it served as a sign. His resurrection was a sign that the power of sin was defeated. But our physical, biological death is not from the sin of Adam. Adam lived 930 years before he croaked.
It's not an issue of our human tissue!!! That is a misguided expectation and a misunderstanding of the nature of salvation.
Jesus taught that it was a soul salvation. He died as to save our soul. John 3:16 obviously means that.
1 Peter 1:9 bears that out. They, in the first century, we're waiting for the goal of, or end of their faith, which was the salvation of their soul, not their physical body.
Have you heard the word?
It's a soul salvation.
1 Peter 2:25
John 12:47-48 - "And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I DO NOT judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has THAT which judges him-the WORD that I have spoken WILL JUDGE him in the LAST day. "
The 'books' opened to pass judgment mentioned in Revelation 20:12 are the 66 books of His WORD. This is exactly what HE said in John's Gospel, quoted above.
Rev. 20:12 - "And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books." The WORD was readily available, yet it was rejected, so they stand before GOD on their own merit "works" which we know, that they do not save anyone!
Blessings Tom. I'm pre-Trib and I do not agree with you completely. I want to thank you for treating the opposing view with respect. Like you, I have never said my view is the absolute way future plays out. We will have a laugh over it when we see Jesus face to face when we see both of us erred in some ways.
Shalom, Rev 6 the four horseman have two meanings celestial and earthly. NT saints were told about an event in John's past that involved a period of persecution and judgment by Abba for the persecution
Any teaching that even hints that John or any of the apostles in their writings taught or even suggested Yahshua's return would be soon as within their own lifetime is not only foolish but ignores the historical, cultural, and grammatical text of their writings. When one follows the instructions of understanding Revelation given in chapter 1 it does not show the bulk of Revelation is unfulfilled prophecy but is prophecy fulfilled and only by using theological evasion can the truth not be seen sadly those who do reveal themselves to be agents of the counter reformation. In fact the signs of Revelation show the seal and trumpet judgments are past and we are now in the 4th bowl/saucer judgment.
Why wasn't the holocaust an act of YHWH against his people for disobedience in short fulfillment of Deut 28 the curses for disobedience?
The signs of Rev 5 point to 3 days after Nero's suicide June 9 68 AD and Rev 6 covers the year of the four Roman Caesars or 68-69 AD, Libra, Cepheus - mid sky, Milky way -stretched 7 planets aligned under Aries June 11 68 AD.
Rev 6:2-8 Actions of the Roman Empire Rev 6:9-17 Abba's response
Four horsemen is Rome 68 to 74 AD
Celestial meaning
Rev 6:2 the first seal mentions lion referring to constellation Leo white horse refers to constellation Sagittarius crown refers to planet Saturn (Cronus - crown) over the head of Sagittarius on July 23 74 AD.
Rev 6:4 Second seal mentions bull referring to constellation Taurus red horse refers to mars and constellation Centaurus on Dec 21 74 AD
Rev 6:5 Third seal mentions face of a man referring to constellation Aquarius black horse refers to a new moon and constellation Monoceros on Dec 22 74 AD
"pair of balances in his hand" balances in Greek is yoke and hand is pour referring to constellation Aquarius
Rev 6:8 Fourth seal mentions eagle referring to constellation Scorpio (in the past was depicted as an Eagle/Phoenix) pale refers to Venus on Dec 23 74 AD, horse refers to constellation Pegasus on Dec 25 74 AD, death and hell refers to constellation Ophiuchus on Dec 27 74 AD.
Rev 6:9 Fifth seal altar refers to constellation Ara,
Rev 6:11 saints in white robes refers to meteor showers. refers to Lyrid meteor shower April 27, 75 AD and Scorpid meteor shower April 30, 75 AD, little season is a time conversion refers to 4.5 years.
Rev 13 Sixth seal refers to a great cataclysm a geological event that causes an atmospheric disturbance affecting sunlight and moonlight and cause people to flee to caves in an attempt to avoid it. Every mountain does not refer to the planet but refers to the land (that being targeted for judgement), star of heaven fell refer to meteor showers triple meteor showers occurred on Aug 22-25 79 AD
Earthly meaning the four horses refer to the four Roman Emperors but also the Roman circus
69-79 AD covers the Flavian dynasty specifically Vespasian and their involvement in the rise of the antichrist through their connection with the Nicolaitans who were not being persecuted by the Flavian Emperor Domitian instead they were pro-roman assimilationists who replaced the Christ preached by the apostles with a Roman-Apollo Christ which Paul called another version of Christ and John called the antichrist unlike NT saints like John who had been exiled to Patmos for keeping the commandments of Abba and having the testimony of Yahshua. Vespasian besides Emperor also held the title Pontifex Maximus a title that would be adopted by the Pope, he also claimed he was Christ while at the same time killing Jews by the act of eliminationism an act that would be repeated by Christians even in modern times who claim to follow a Jewish Christ.
When it came to the chariot races in Rome each chariot was driven by four horses in honor of Sol Invictus whose 4 horse chariot carried the sun across the sky and Neptune who is believed to haven given horses to humans. There were 4 teams each teach was depicted by a color white, green, red.
Measure of wheat for a penny and 3 measures of Barley for a penny does not point to famine but points to prosperity. A penny means any non-paper currency, but in Greek is Denarius or a currency of Rome but not the only one in John's day. Measure in Greek is Choinix and was how much a Roman soldier was rationed but equals 5 pounds and a Denarius was about $50. A Roman soldier's daily salary or per diem was 2 denaius per day could either buy 5 pounds of wheat or 15 pounds of barley that is not famine but indulgence. Hurt not the oil or the wine refers to military commands of not hurting the agricultural resources of a conquered land so it could be used by Roman army.
"and power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth" earth does not refer to world/planet but just land specifically the land of Judea, kill with sword, hunger, death and beasts refer to the various way NT saints were killed specifically beasts of the earth refers to those killed by wild animals in the circus games upon which now stands St Peter basiliica. July 23rd date of circus games at Circus Flaminius Apollinarus adjacent to temple of neptune in Rome. July 23rd was Neptunailia the Roman version of the Jewish feast of sukkot or feast of tabenacle celebrating the physical presence of God.
August 24 79 AD mount vesuvius erupted affecting the region of Campania a popular resort area for Roman officials.
Wonderful comment! I can tell you have watched the antichrist for dummies series from Mr. C
And the word church was derived from the roman circus, which is where someone goes when they go to church!! A Roman circus! May Yah bless you for speaking truth brother!
@@andweknow8287 Yes, he has been a good instrument of Abba to help fill in blanks, but this whole celestial thing happened when I was studying the Bible while at the same time taking an astronomy course 16 years ago, which to me show the amazement of Abba, because I have always been a backyard astronomer but not until I studied the Bible did I consider celestial objects as being signs.
@@andweknow8287 That point about church link to circus I don't completely buy, because church is an English word, but I wondered if the assembly the apostles warned about that today is known as the church can still be found even in the English translations, despite the deliberate removal by ministers of the antichrist to replace ecclecia with church and claim they mean the same thing.
Act 19:34 But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.
Act 19:35 And when the townclerk had appeased the people, he said, Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshipper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?
Act 19:36 Seeing then that these things cannot be spoken against, ye ought to be quiet, and to do nothing rashly.
Act 19:37 For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither robbers of churches, nor yet blasphemers of your goddess.
The translators did too good a job because they even translated a pagan temple to mean church, thus rebuking any teaching that the church by name is of Christ.
The just just interpret their tribulation far different than the unbeliever in the world.
I understand that. The unbeliever couldn’t care less and are blinded and deaf
You used the word "Rapture" in the title of this video. How does one teach a lesson on the timeline of the Rapture without mentioning the teachings of the Apostle Paul, from whom we get the Bible's most detailed information regarding the harpazo? Pretribulationism is not based on the false notion that true believers will not suffer tribulation. Pretribulationism is based on combining Old Testament Scripture references with New Testament; the OT prophets teachings, Paul's teachings, plus John's, in the Revelation, with an exegetically determined conclusion that the entire 70th Week is a synonym for "the Day of the Lord." It is true that average Christians do not have a working knowledge of the Jewish / Old Testament foundation of their faith. But, it can also be true that New Testament teaching can be selectively left out, when a certain conclusion is desired. When addressing a subject as controversial as the Rapture, the "whole counsel of God" (both Old and New Testament text) must be addressed, or the listener is left with the feeling that your argument is incomplete.
Galatians 4:21-31 KJVS
Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. [28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. [29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. [30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Luke.. yes.. God Still can say GAMEOVER...
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God is Sovereign.
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Someone should have told you about being under ( legalism ) verses that freedom that passes all understanding or did you actually forget what YHVH did & fall for the words of a preacher?
Or did you miss the if you love me keep my ...
Oh foolish [ gimel lameds ] who has brought you under legalism
Jesus to preachers and Sunday school teachers of his day
You have made the [ Torah ] of no effect because of your legalism
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Church doctrines and bylaws
Will There Be a Secret Rapture?
It is a popular belief in today’s religious world that the Bible teaches a secret rapture to come at the last day. The idea is that Matthew chapter 24 and Luke chapter 17 teach some will be going about their day and suddenly they will disappear leaving whatever place they were at and others who are left will be wondering where they went. The verses before mentioned state this, Matthew 24:41-“Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” So the idea is no matter what people are doing some will be taken and the others will be left. One example of this is that many will be driving cars when suddenly they will disappear leaving their cars to crash into something whether they had passengers in them or not. This is another popular but false belief pushed on God’s people by ignorant preachers and church leaders in order to get them to “get right with God” and this theory is a rather fearful one. It is hard for people to be comforted by believing a secret rapture.
I will break it to folks that the word rapture is never mentioned in God’s true written word and the time in question is simply mentioned as “the last day” which will be the end of time. Next I will present a verse refuting that the last day will be a secret of any kind, Revelation 1:7-“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” We see here that “every eye shall see Him”. Every eye shall see who? Every eye shall see Christ coming with clouds. This truth blows away any secret rapture. There are prophecies of the last day mentioned in numerous places in the Bible but the most clear reference is in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 which brings clarity on what will transpire at the last day.
1st Thessalonians 4:16-18, “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.” So those that are alive bodily on this earth will witness something extraordinary in that they will see the dead rise from the graves. The final resurrection will be of both the just and the unjust (Acts 24:15), and the ones that were made just by the blood of Christ will meet the Lord in the air to be with Him forevermore. Does this sound like the secret rapture theory to you?
Next I want to explain the confusion people have with what is taught in Matthew 24 and Luke 17. Elder Vernon Johnson of PBStudy.org explains Matthew 24:41-51:
[Covenants are compared to women in Gal. 4:22 "For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all." The law covenant and the covenant of grace had been functioning side by side for about 40 years until the time of the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. Paul alludes to this in Heb. 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away." With the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple the law covenant was taken away, but we were left with the better covenant in which to worship God, the covenant of grace.
Along with the fulfilled promise of judgment upon the Israelite nation, the Lord also warned his disciples, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." Now this watching had to be watching for impending timely judgments, because at the end of time, whether we are watching or not watching is not going to matter as far as our resurrection unto eternal life is concerned and it will not affect our eternal joys. However, as the Lord came in judgment upon Jerusalem, he also sometimes comes in timely judgment upon his servants and upon local churches. We are warned to watch and not suffer our house (church) to be broken up.
"Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." The Lord also gives us encouragement as he says that if we watch and do his bidding that he will come and shower his blessings upon him. Likewise, failure to watch and to misbehave in the house of God will result in timely judgment. Now we know that eternal life is not dependant upon our timely works nor will we lose eternal life, if we fail to perform all of the timely works that we should. This passage sets forth a timely reward for timely works and a timely punishment for timely disobedience.]
It should be clear to all of us that there will be no such thing as a secret rapture or any secret event at the last day as “every eye” shall see the Lord coming with clouds and will hear Him shout with the voice of the archangel and the trump of God signifying the end has come. It will be the most public event ever. “Wherefore comfort one another with these words”.
@@ForrestHoliday-rt1qz The elect are from every nation, kindred, people, and tongue: Revelation 14:6-7,“And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”
Christ was born a Jew and they received Him not: John 1:11-“He came unto his own, and his own received him not.” Romans 1:16-“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
Romans 2:9-10,“Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
1st Corinthians 15:20,23-“But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.”
@@ForrestHoliday-rt1qz Romans 9:6-7,“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.” So not every Jew by race is a child of God but a Jew my grace. Many Gentiles are Jews inwardly: Romans 2:28-29,“For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
@@ForrestHoliday-rt1qz I understand. I do think you are misunderstanding the tribulation though. The destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD, and the last Jewish holdouts at Masada ended that war with the Romans and the Jews were scattered throughout many parts of the world. There wasn’t another Jewish nation for 972 years after Jerusalem was destroyed. The great tribulation is the destruction that befell them in 70 AD.
God bless you but didn’t Jesus say around six or seven times that the return would occur within the life time of many who were listening? Was Jesus an inaccurate prophet? Even mainstream historians agree that first hand evidence of the Dark ages essentially doesn’t exist- which gives us approximately one thousand years to account for. God’s word over man’s?
Expect the rapture 1000 years after Christ's return. As per Rev 20:13
We are about to witness a harbinger for the Nations of America. On April 8th an eclipse will cross from Mazatlán to Maine, darkening 6 cities named Nineveh and two named Jonah. The Sign of Jonah perhaps? Will there be judgment forty days later, we'll soon see. It occurs on Nisan 1, the Jewish New year. Nisan 10 is obviously 10 days later on April 18th, could that be the day we are called home, just before the judgment?
Nisan 10 was the day Jesus first came and could be the same day He returns. It's also the day the Israelites were forced to wait to cross into the Promised Land. Pray always,,, Luke 21:36 Rev 3:3
No time in heaven?
2 Peter 3:8 KJVS
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
I agree with almost everything you said here and it is very rare to hear it taught like this. I have two small points and a suggestion .........if you don't mind giving me your opinion.
Can the white horse represent deception, false religion and false christs. (I'll show you below)
The second point is the 1/4 of the earth killed. But it says power over 1/4 the earth or in the Greek authority over 1/4 the earth. To kill at will. Could it be possible the power that has this authority can kill at will whomever, whenever he wants and not exactly mean all 25% of the earth is killed. Kind of like ISIS taking over and area and killing off whomever the wanted to...Mostly Christians ...which leads to the 5th seal.
my suggestion .......and looking for your opinion......is look at Mark 13 and compare the horses with what is written for the seals
White horse - (deceit)
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Red horse (war)
Mark 13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet
Green &Black - (War)&(famine)
Mark 13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
5th seal - (martyrs)
Mark 13: 9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
6th seal
Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood
Mark 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Yep we're in thr END AMEN
White horse Bow = rainbow = covenant ?
Correct! This is a person that is 'brand new' like a child... the other horses are the states of a persons 'spirit'. Dappled has experienced some sin, black knows about sin and has scales to judge. The last horse is 'branded', hard hearted, and so on. These spirits work independently and by 'nature' as Paul says in Romans 2: 12-14 (nobody escapes the law).
Bow in Greek = TOXON
Hello - The Second Coming was on 5 June 1941 and the Re-ascension on 28 September of that year. There will be no general Rapture. Each is assessed individually upon attaining the fifth-dimensional frequency in body and soul after many incarnations. Books from the Winds of Truth Trust. Blessings
Never... it's a new thing theologically...
There is one chapter that settles the timing issue for me. It's st. John chapter 6 starting in verse 39. Jesus states 4 times "I will raise him up at the last day". God said it I believe it that settles it.
Last day of what?
The end times or last days or final hour, are in our past, not our future.
These always refer to the last days of the Old Covenant order of Torah, with Moses and the Law as mediator.
It's end was initiated at the cross and fulfilled about 40 years later, in 70 A.D.
The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple then, was during the Parousia.
Revelation is fulfilled.
We are in the New Covenant age with Christ as the mediator between God and man. It has no end or last days.
The 40 year transition of the Old Covenant to it's promised, true fulfillment, was consummated as the New Covenant age with the Parousia.
Isaiah 9:6-7
Ephesians 3:20-21
Jesus said all things written would be fulfilled by the destruction of the temple and all came to fulfillment by 70AD
Paul was expecting the rapture to be within his lifetime. His letter to the Thessalonians was telling them, not us centuries later but them, that they would still be alive at the Lords return.
Jesus said over and over that his return would be within that same very generation and that some standing there with him would still be alive when he comes with the angels in the glory of his Father to repay men according to their deeds..just like he told the paharisees that all the righteous blood from Abel to Zechariah was going to come upon them, that same generation:
Matt 23:35-36
Matt 24:34
Matt 16:27-28
Mark 1:15
Luke 21:22
Every apostle stated that it was THEM that were living in the time of the end, the end of the age, the last hour..etc
BTw Earth means Land, and it is NOT a “planet” as called in this vid
2 Thessalonians chapter 2:7-8 we read: For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only HE who now restrains will do so until HE is taken out of the way. 8And THEN the lawless one will be REVEALED, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
Once the Bride is removed, the lawless one is REVEALED - The 1st rider of the white horse! The BRIDE is safely in our Chabers in heaven as Isaiah 26:20 states. Then the Tribulation (Judgments) begins on earth!
The restrainer was Claudius
@@georgebentonjr3876 It can't be, because this prophecy is about the appearance of the coming antichrist, the first rider in Revelation 6:1-2 still in the future. It is the Holy Spirit in the CHURCH (Bride) when taken out of the way at the Rapture. In the prophecy found in Isaiah 26:19-21, verse 20 is when the believers are called home to safety. Then Tribulation begins on earth verse 21, the first judgment is the appearance of the antichrist, seal number 1.
@@tigre659FM No physical removal of the church from earth. John 17:15. Ephesians 3:20-21
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Sooooo, "the bride" is the HE who restrains ?
Go take your h0m0/Transgender interpretations to hell with you.
2 Thess.2:1-6 is clear and it says the exact opposite of your false and evilinterpretation of verse 7.
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Also, you lie about when J7dgement begins:
*Rev.6:9-11*
The white horse = covid crown is corona bow in Greek is poisonous dart
LOL look up what "the valley of sin and MT. Sinai" mean in ancient and modern Hebrew.
The white horse refers to the false christ.
1 Thessalonians 4
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD at the last or 7th trump / after the tribulation.)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (Dead raised before alive saints are changed at the coming of the Lord .That is ALL of the saints, dead and alive are changed at the Lords coming, not years prior/pretrib.)
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
When does the Lord Come? AFTER the tribulation and THEN he gathers his elect.
Mark 13
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. (Also see Mathew 24:29-31)
When does the Lord come and when shall we all be changed? At the LAST/7th trump.
1 Corinthians 15
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (Last Trump / 7th Trump)
The Lord comes back at the 7th/Last trump.
Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Also during the tribulation satan is at war with the saints and defeats us until the coming of the Lord.
Daniel 7
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Daniel 8
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
The Lord will not come back until AFTER the falling away and that man of sin be revealed. Don`t be deceived by " HE Could COME ANY MINUTE LIE"
2 Thessolonians
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Notice the wicked are taken by the flood (Like the days of Noah the wicked are taken and the righteous are left to inherit the Earth just like Noah and the wicked are cast into a lake of fire after the 1000 year reign of Christ. See Revelation chapter 20)
Mathew 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
1 Thessalonians 5
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
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So my question is why do we think any mortal or even spiritual force could cause God to unleash wrath? God is perfect love and knowledge and wisdom his depth can’t be plumbed his height can’t be climbed his distance is further than east or west north or south there is nothing that can comprehend his totality except ONE! His only begotten son! For he was with him in the beginning! And when scripture says “come let’s us counsel“ many religions think and use that as proof of other Gods! NO 1000 times NO! That is referring to The Father & Sons counsel! Satan has wrath and frustration! But God cannot be frustrated! He doesn’t even operate or worry about time! Time is non existent! That’s my thought and belief anyway!
I have an answer but folks don't like it. I have THE 'theodicy' solved. Google 'theodicy'. And yes, 100% scripturally backed.
Consider... Is it 'just' to 'break' God's law? Add to that, can God show partiality and still keep His promises? No and No. Thus, 'grace' - while needed - is technically 'evil', that is used for 'good'. Therfore, 'saved by grace' is God 'allowing' just so much 'grace' until He needs to reconcile the books. IF grace were 'good' then we should sin more that grace ABOUND; something Paul cautioned us about.
God once delivered his people and provided for them i think he can do it again. The greater Exodus.
The rapture isn’t coming anytime soon. These so called prophecy preachers been saying the rapture is coming for the last 3 to 5 years now. The bible says it comes as a thief in the night “1Th_5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night”.
2 Thessalonians 2, tells when gathered back to Christ. Antichrist satan comes at 666. True Messiah comes at 777 after two witnesses come back to life, Revelation 11.
No pretrib rapture Jn.6,39,40,44,54 Jesus said All the father gives me I'll raise up on the last day Jn.6,39,40,44,54 and Paul said at the last trumpet Rev 11,15 acts 3,21 says Jesus must remain in heaven until the restitution of all thing. Ive seen the first five seals and heard the first trumpet and we are now at the first four trumpets getting ready to take out one third of the earth and sea in a one day event probably a nuclear war then the world will be in the woes or last three trumpets 5,6,7 and trumpet six is the seven years of Daniel. And that ends at armageddon.
God is NOT speaking in Isaiah 45:7... it is the Lord who is speaking. Elohim vs. YHWH. The 'trinity' is God, YHWH, and YHWH Elohim. YHWH is 'door' between these 2 character traits of 'God'. Jesus is the Lord (Word) manifested. As a 'door' is why He is not found (and why John weeps) In heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth. Anybody?
Absolutely the white horse rider is a replacement for jesus. Multitudes think that he is Jesus, and he is there Jesus but he's not the real Jesus. Matthew 24 a great multitude will come in my name claiming that I am Christ and deceive many.
Did claimed Christ but follow Antichrist the replacement. He rules over many divisionaries. If they were led by the Holy Spirit they would not be divided up listening to theologians. First thing Jesus says in Matthew 24 is the same thing the first seal Rider in Revelation shows. Perfect match. A world religion claiming to be following Jesus also practices keeping the law of Moses which is the old Covenant and has nothing to do with the much much much much much much much much much much much better new one. The blood of Christ cleanses us from ALL unrighteousness 💖 1 tim 1 the law was not given to righteous man. Please read acts 21 and note that the followers of James who claim to be Christians wanted to kill Paul the Apostle for his God given message of Grace by faith. Unfortunately the majority today follow people like James.
Rapture’s bogus!
You claim to know the Torah, yet you present this Darby/Scofield garbage which is nowhere in the Old or New Testament. The idea the church is "raptured" before the tribulation (which actually happened in 65-70 AD) is not in the Bible. Shame on you.
I think the rapture is pre-wrath
as in the Days of Noah..Noah was waiting for The Flood ..and not Rapture To Heaven..they were waiting for the Rapture of The Bag of Water as in The Fountains of the Deep Opened/Flood.. or Rapture of THe Ground....Likewise Humanity today are Waiting for The Greatest Earth Quake & Biggest Hailstones in Revelation 16:18-21..
Better get used to this fact (because Jesus addressed this in John 17;15) a greater unction is coming to the Lord's prophets (not the candy coated ones). They will be preaching "that day will not come until the antiChrist is revealed" (2 Thes.2;3)....if you think you're being raptured....pretty good odds you'll worship the Man of Sin!
Jacob’s troubles is the great tribulation for 3.5 years. Period of Satan wrath against all Israelites nations and Judah and the church ( a period of correction. Revaluation 12:14-17) yes some chosen will be protected during this time. Then comes the terrible day of the Lord which is the celestial signs and punishment to those not obeying Gods commandments and accepted the mark of the beast.
The great tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:21 is in our past, not our future.
The reason so many people are confused about prophecy is simple. They refuse to STUDY Gods word. This is specifically true with so many Pastors and teachers. However, no one gets a free pass. It takes years of hard work to understand, and it's a lot easier just to believe what some famous pastor teaches. So, let's start with Rev6:1-2 This WHITE Horse REPRESENTS Jesus bringing the N.T. Gospel. NO where in scripture is the word WHITE ever used to describe unrighteousness. NOT one verse. Secondly, the word CONQUER Vs2 is a bad translation. It should be OVERCOME. < (Original Greek) Rev6:3-4 The RED Horse REPRESENTS Satan immediately ready to stop Jesus. < Mt2:13,16. (Herod is powered by Satan) This happened 2000 years ago. Remember what John said in Rev1:19 Write the things which thou HAST seen. (In Johns past) This includes Jesus's ministry, death, and resurrection. Now to prove this WITH SCRIPTURE. This same teaching can be seen in Rev12:1-4, and Rev20:1-4. With different signs and symbols. The angel with the Great Chain, REPRESENTS Jesus, and the Great Chain REPRESENTS the Gospel. Thats why Jesus said what he did in Mt12:25-29. The binding of Satan is the same thing as CASTING out Satan. (Spiritually) Jn12:31 NOW shall the prince of this world be CAST OUT. (2000 years ago) Also, Rev12:9 And the great DRAGON (Satan) was CAST OUT. Most bible teachers will never understand these spiritual things. 1Cor 2:13-14. The entire bible is about God (And his witnesses) defeating Satan (And his followers) And revelation is no different
Shabbat Shalom, If as you say the white horse represents Jesus, while I agree white is not used to describe unrighteousness it does not point to Christ which I will make clear. You say "conquer" is a bad translation and instead it should be overcome.
the word "overcome" is found 12 times in the NT but your point that a secondary meaning should be used and not the primary meaning is not sound and only can be used to perpetuate confusion.
G3528
νικάω
nikaō
nik-ah'-o
From G3529; to subdue (literally or figuratively): - conquer, overcome, prevail, get the victory.
G3531
Νικολαΐ́της
Nikolaitēs
nik-ol-ah-ee’-tace
From G3532; a Nicolaite, that is, adherent of Nicolaus: - Nicolaitane.
G3532
Νικόλαος
Nikolaos
nik-ol’-ah-os
From G3534 and G2004; victorious over the people; Nicolaus, a heretic: - Nicolaus.
Rev_2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Rev_2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
Now if what you say is true Christ not only supports but is an active participant in two events the first is the killing of 1/4 of a population by sword, famine, death, and beast of the earth including NT saints. The second is the judgment against those who used sword, famine, death, and wild beasts to kill including NT saints. I could be wrong but him doing that just seem out of character for both him and our Father. Now getting back to the white horse what if this was representative of Christ but since the behavior of the rider is anything but Christ like, reveals the rider to be a replacement Christ, or as Paul says another gospel, or John says is antichrist.
The idea the red horse represents Satan who is there to stop the white horse makes no sense because it says all four riders working together cause the death of 1/4 of a population, so for Jesus to be the white horse rider and Satan to be the red horse rider means Jesus and Satan team up to cause the death of 1/4 of a population which includes NT saints.
While Herod was powered by Satan he was not the only one as was Judas Iscariot and the apostles warned about the ministers of Satan would infiltrate and eventually replace NT saints specifically the Christ they taught with a replacement one that the apostles did not teach.
Revelation is an amazing book because in the epistles we see examples of growing apostasy among the followers of Christ which the apostles rebuke, they even warn of future false apostles and their teachings, but then it ends without Revelation we would not know what happens next is what we call the church today is it the same as the apostles set up meaning the problems they have all fixed or is the one today the one set up by false apostles meaning the problems have not been fixed. The very title Revelation in Greek means unveiling to expose that which is hidden while telling the Hebrew meaning is way more telling in Hebrew it is ervah and means nakedness, shame, uncleaness. This means Christ is revealing the nakedness or sin of someone it would not be gentiles, it would not be Jews, it could only be the church as can be seen with the opening chapters how they give the reader an update from what has has been happening in the church and using just 7 churches show an apostasy rate of over 70% by the end of the first Century.
Example the apostles set up a community of NT saints in Ephesus, but within a short time serious problems arose the caused both Paul and John to write to the community in Ephesus to correct them, but now we are in 95 AD and learn Ephesus is not just having problems but is being told by Christ that if they don't repent he will curse them.
This rebukes any false teaching that the church worked out all its problems and it only get worse exposing the sins of the church throughout its history, despite their best efforts to hide them. It reminds me of in the OT a foreign King was at war with the Israelites but because the King was losing he suspected there was a spy in his camp when the whole time it was YHWH just guiding the Israelites.
Now I absolutely agree that Rev 6 is talking about events in John's past that being said we should be looking for an event in his past the involved war, famine, death, and beast of the earth and one does not have to look far because history records the Jewish-Roman wars in detail and how the Roman sieges led to famine, and how the survivors were taken as slaves and some of those including NT saints were killed by wild beast in the Roman Circus.
A huge problem with most teachers today is they use 21st century meaning of words instead of what the words meant when first written.
Example earth in Revelation does not refer to the planet or world but simply refers to land, so the prophecy about 1/4 of the population of a land is way different then a prophecy about 1/4 of the population of a planet and the prophecy involving the smaller population can be overlooked as well as a prophecy about the judgment against those who targeted 1/4 of the smaller population.
You are wise in your own mind. Get an Interlinear bible and look up Rev6:2. It's says OVERCOME. Also, you make the cardinal mistake. After a few paragraphs, you resort to your opinion and NOT one single scripture. Now, can you show ONE Verse in God's word that uses the word WHITE to describe unrighteousness? Because I can probably come up with 100 verses that show WHITE means RIGHTIOUS. I also, gave scriptures showing the RED Horse (Satan) IMMEDIATLEY trying to kill Jesus as soon as he was born. Mt2:13,16/ Rev12:3-4. So, does your wisdom and OPINION override scripture???@@hermanehrentraut4956
@@markhauserbible7168 Rev 6:2 only says that depending on which version used but I will get back to that later but keep in mind that overcome does not always have positive meaning
Rev_13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
This echoes almost the same thing as is found in Rev 6 where war is waged against the saints and the enemy overcomes them.
Overcome is still G3528
It's not my opinion about the white rider working in concert with the other three riders and all four target NT saints as nothing in Rev 6 suggests the riders are in opposition. It is not my opinion that Christ or our Father would not target NT saints for judgment, this is made abundantly clear throughout the OT.
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
They do this in response to what is happening to them because of the 4 riders.
I did not say that white is not used to show righteousness, I said that the rider on the white horse while appearing righteous has behavior that is unrighteous, which means if the white rider is Christ it is a replacement Christ, one warned would come by both Christ and the apostles one that his followers would target NT saints.
While Matt 2 does cover the birth of Christ and Satan's response through Herod, it is only by free association that one can say with certainty for this reason the red horse rider must be Satan.
However outside what the symbols mean there is an often overlooked point which is these signs also point to celestial objects in the sky so when those who are watching the sky see these signs they can understand something happening on earth so as not to be deceived just as we are commanded to do in Gen 1 and as was used to guide the magi to Christ. This is called astronomical dating so the four beasts, four horses all point to constellations along with other information found in Rev 6 makes the dating of events very clear.
Revelation is Christ revealing the truth about the antichrist both rise and fall and those who follow and support him from origins among the followers of Christ even to this day.
By the way you told me to get an Interlinear Bible which I am guessing you mean Greek NT INT which actually translates G3528 as neither conquer or overcome but subdue
Greek NT INT -Greek New Testament Interlinear
νικων
G3528
V-PAP-NSM
νικάω
to subdue
but in the IGNT - Greek New Testament Interlinear
νικωνG3528 [G5723] OVERCOMING
The Greek NT INT uses the primary meaning
G3528
νικάω
nikaō
nik-ah’-o
From G3529; to subdue (literally or figuratively): - conquer, overcome, prevail, get the victory.
So which Interlinear version should I use the one that agrees with you or the one that doesn't and why?
I want you to go back and look at your long-winded reply. I gave more scriptures in 0ne paragraph than you did in 10. You say things like the 4 Horsemen are in conjunction. Thats your opinion, and not scriptural. Also, I'm well aware that overcome can mean good or bad. It's the same with LEAVEN. Mt13:33/ 16:6. However Rev6:2 is a GOOD type of overcome. Look at Rev6:2 Went forth CONQUERING and TO CONQUER. Does the antichrist end up the CONQUERER or JESUS??? Now to get to your real lack of understanding. I gave you scripture showing Rev6:1-4/ 12:1-4/ and 20:1-4 are teaching the SAME thing and same time-line with different signs and symbols. All of these started at the cross. So, can you show WITH SCRIPTURE that I am wrong???@@hermanehrentraut4956
@@markhauserbible7168 According to Daniel 7 the saints are defeated for a time until Christ second coming.
Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
This event has not yet happened as can clearly be seen in the fact that Satan is still god of this world.
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2Co 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
Rev_2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
Both of these passages were written after Christ's ascension serving as proof that Satan has not yet been defeated.
This fourth beast is also described in Rev 13
Rev_12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev_13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev_17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev_17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev_17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
At the time of John the city of seven hills was Rome.
Considering what the Roman empire did to NT saints even after the council of Nicea when the state church was formed with the edict of Thessalonika in 380AD and the false apostle's version of Christ became the defacto Christ of the empire forcing all in the empire to be called Catholic Christians, and those who opposed to be persecuted which would have included all those who followed the Christ of the gospels or NT saints by both the church and the empire.
Also you have not yet offered any proof that contradicts the plain understanding that all 4 riders of Rev 6 including the white horse rider are not working together which results in the targeting of NT saints.
I don't believe there is a rapture, why do you think Christians have go though so much hate and pain after Christ went back his father and we will not have go through the same as they did? Also the whole Rapture belief came out of a catholic priest back about three hundred years ago. Plus where is the word rapture in the bible? It's not in there and neither is christmas ,easter Also lent good friday. None of those were in the bible all put in there by the catholics only.
I won't nitpick over this. What Yeshua Ha'Masiach taught, seconded by Paul, will suffice. Don't add to what Yeshua taught; He ís God, after all.
dON'T CARE ABOUT THAT rEV 4:1 cOME UP hITHER IS THE RAPTURE AFTER THAT HELL COMES FOR EVERYBODY
Stop deceiving people.
This teacher has great commentator vocal , sound speech , But teaching a pre-tribulation Rapture is totally NOT what IS WRITTEN. If you read Mathew 24 : Let us ALL Listen to What IS WRITTEN; What is Written ? The disciples ASKED Jesus the same question we ALL have ASKED Jesus . When are you returning lord , tell us . Jesus begins to ( tell his prophetical coming ) BUT as you read listen to what Jesus says ( prophecy) beginning with WHAT Is Coming BEFORE ( What COMES BEFORE) he returns ….. You do NOT Read that the Christians ARE RAPTURED ( BEFORE) the Tribulation. . Mathew 24;verse 22 BUT for the ( ELECT’s) SAKE those days will be shortened. Question ? Who ARE The ELECT people of God ?? The ELECT are Still on this Earth IN and DURING The WHOLE TRIBULATION ( As they were in Egypt during the time of Moses ) God did NOT take Them Out of That Tribulation, God takes his people IN and Through Tribulation,, As He Did Noah ! .. Again I ask ? Who are The ELECT in verse 22 ?? Why have They ( me and you ) Seeing ALL These False Teachers , False Prophets , False Christ in OUR DAY ? ,, Jesus for-warns THE ELECT! Don’t get DECEIVED by ALL of These False Teachers, because if Possible These False Teachers Would Even Deceive THE ELECT…Jesus WARNS his ELECT ( me and you ) Do NOT BELIEVE these Impostors, Liars , Scripture TWISTING Till EVEN THE ELECT are Being DECEIVED.😮… If ? ( if ) ( if ) Your PART of Gods ELECT ? Read What is Written from verse Mathew 24: verses 22-31…. The ELECT IMMEDIATELY ( AFTER) The TRIBULATION Of Those Days the Sun will be darkened, the Moon will not give its light ; The Stars Will Fall from Heaven , and the powers of Heaven will be shaken. verse 30 , THEN ! the SIGN of the son of MAN will APPEAR in Heaven . Jesus coming in Great Power and GLORY. Verse 31: And He WILL SEND HIS Angles With a GREAT Sound ! Of A TRUMPET!!! ( gods last 7th TRUMPET) As he Has Revealed To His Servants The Prophets .. AND The ANGELS WILL GATHER together ( HIS ELECT ) From the FOUR WINDS OF This EARTH , From One End Of Heaven to The Other …When I Hear That TRUMPET Sound ! At The LAST TRUMP! The Dead in Christ Will Rise ( First / the greatest FIRST Resurrection)EVER to occur, Followed By THE Rapture! ! ! Gods ELECT will be in The Tribulation and if those days would not be Shortened 3.5 yrs There would be No Flesh SAVED ,, BUT FOR THE ( ELECT’s ) SAKE ! The Great Tribulation will be Shortened ( by the coming of our lord ) at The LAST Trumpet/ Trump ( Shofar BLAST ) . .
Protestant mis interpretation of the prophecy of "Being caught up " calling it "Rapture" has only led to the Complacency towards the Faith,
Convoluted Reasoning.. I'll stand BY FAITH IN THE BLESSED HOPE....
.ur casting don't LIKE a TARE...😮
Hollywood & Nicloas Cage laugh all the way to the bank, Thanking the Prophets of Babylon,
if u do not come to Jesus, u will follow a evil leader. and God will deal with it.
Christ WON'T beat his Bride.
He scourages those whom He loves. Rod and Staff, 2 sides of the same 'law' and 'spirit'. Remember, Jesus is called LORD... (Isaiah 45:7) The Lord HAS TO do ALL THINGS in order to be 'sovereign' over His creation. You can go eye for an eye, but that requires vengence. Love & forgiveness are the 'weapons' of choice.
The Lord doesn't, Satan does. That's what The Tribulation is, Satan attacking God's People. It Started about 2000yrs ago and will become Greater as we draw closer to The Rapture.
@@ChrisMusanteoh yeah... that makes sense.. ( sarcasm)
You gonna marry a ho?
Or you coming after a spotless Bride
Did you forget about the law of Jealous Husband?
Did you forget about the fact Guilty or Innocent she has to Drink Bitterwaters!
Did you forget about the fact that your going to drink Bitterwaters
Jerusalem is strongest
The pre-tribulation rapture doctrine explanations that I have read, use a technique called parenthetical chapters in the book of Revelation. This allows them to move chapters, and verses in chapters around to accommodate their doctrine. The trouble is the original Greek manuscripts have no chapter headings, nor chapters. So realistically how do you go about moving chapters? Nevertheless, they use this literary device erroneously. For example, this verse in the 12th chapter.
Revelation 12:5 KJVS
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Clearly, this is the rapture of some of the members of the body of Christ. And they move the rapture before the beginning of the tribulation, by moving the chapter. But what they fail to take into account is a verse earlier in that book.
Revelation 8:13 KJVS
And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
The three woes are associated with the fifth sixth and seventh trumpet. So where the 3 woes transpire in the narrative, that requires a linear chronological progression of those chapters. The first woe takes place in the ninth chapter.
Revelation 9:12 KJVS
One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
The second woe takes place in the 11 Chapter.
Revelation 11:14 KJVS
The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
And the third woe takes place a short time later in the 12 chapter.
Revelation 12:12 KJVS
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
So clearly, the manchild being caught up to the throne of God, Re 12:5, takes place in the middle of the tribulation. At the seventh, last trumpet. At or near the same time the two witnesses are resurrected in the 11th chapter, Re 11:12. Followed by…
Revelation 11:15 KJVS
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
The woman and man child is speaking of Mary and the Christ Child, a prophecy that happened thousands of years ago.
It is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not just Revelation. To understand Revelation we must understand Genesis, also read Daniel, Mathew, 1 and 2 Thessalonians.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say there will be a (rapture). What it does say though. In Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21,JESUS SAID he comes after the tribulation , AFTER the abomination of desolation. Paul also is a second witness in second Thessalonians chapter 2, where he says Thessalonians 2
King James Version
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Jesus comes at the 7th and last trump just like he says, but the Antichrist comes first POSING as our Lord Jesus to deceive many, and all these any minute people who refuse to hear the truth are going to worship the Antichrist because they think he is God. This is the great falling away. This is the mark of the beast. Put the seal of God's truth IN YOUR HEAD. Wait on the Lord God Almighty YHVH.
Amen. The rapture is a false doctrine started by John Darby around 1830.
And the "falling away", that happened around 250 AD.
Why would you delete a true statement about the falsehood of the rapture ? No one in the church ever heard of the rapture until after the 1830's when John Darby invented the nonsense doctrine.
It is called a catching up in scripture! It says caught up into the clouds I believe. The Rapture is what they refer this event to.
@@YeshuasTrueWay, more like today than ever before in history, especially after Covid!!
Known as APOSTASY!!!
We should not use the term "Rapture."
Using the term "Rapture" leads to arguments about God's divine nature to time. Remember, God said no one would know, not even "God the Son," better known as Jesus, would know. So when you say "Rapture," this adds confusion and arguments such as Pre-tribulation or Post-tribulation. That is why it is always wise to stick to the written word and not rely on our carnal understanding or interpretations. "Rapture" is not taught from the Bible, but the bible preaches and teaches "Caught Up," not "Rapture."
The term in the Bible is "Caught Up." Derived from 1 Thessalonians 4:14- 17 in full context. It read this way:
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be "caught up" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
U REALLY don't think God knows "?..
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What God do u Serve?..
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Ofcourse Jesus knows/ knew.
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Many try to bring Jesus don't to thier level.
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Wfvvs.
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