The REAL reason why Tua Tagovailoa struggled in his rookie year
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Tua Tagovailoa struggled in his rookie year, but there’s more going on behind the scenes.
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This week’s film breakdown analyzes Miami Dolphins Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa. Tua struggled in his rookie season despite showing glimpses OF his potential and has several question marks surrounding him heading into year 2. Why did he struggle and how much of it was his fault? This episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze Miami Dolphins Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.
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@MClayton 25 shut up
I'm not a dolphins fan nor hater. I really think this teams has the potential for a deep playoff run, only is they manage to land Watson, I just don't see Tua being consistent
You are wrong on Gailey take, you are clueless with tua. Tua struggled to see the field even when he did have time in the pocket… those deep route one on ones is exactly what coaches dialed up when defenses were pouncing on short stuff what are you suppose to do force the short stuff.. you are clueless and again Miami Dolphins need a soldier not scared to get hit.. week 17 in goal line down by 3 scores tua runs and instead of fighting for the touchdown against a defender he slides and doesn’t put his body on the line like other players on this team would have… tua can improve but so can Nathan peterman right…. But will that improvement ever be near the elite who make the playoffs… Doubt it. Tua will hold this team back if he starts again and will waste an elite secondary…. Players won’t want to play here with tua and only way they come to Miami is to over pay for mediocre talent… you have to many subs but all these positive comments you got praising you good job are the same ones who bought tua jerseys day 1…
@Maaku Toolol you tua stans are super emotional.
Tua is the only rookie QB to play just around average and immediately have consideration to getting replaced. It's a rough league out there.
Let me tell you about Josh Rosen
Come, listen to the story of Jimmy Clausen
To be fair, Herbert and Burrow were white hot and Tua wasn't. Since Dolphins had a better overall team and coaching, people expected more from the QB
@@jojachow Tua had the worst offense out of any of the top rookie QBs to be fair, theres only so much a good defense can take a rookie qb
@@LaMarcGasoldridge worst offense? Fitz had no problem winning with that offense, why make that lame excuse for Tua? You cant tell me that Tua's O line was worse than Burrows
It’s crazy how just even searching up tua’s name on UA-cam there’s nothing but videos about replacing him or wondering if he’s a bust. It’s like they don’t even know what patience is anymore
Oh, the Dolphins have too much patience. They wasted 9 years with Henne and Tannehill.
now you know what it was like for Herbert and Chargers fans last offseason
Bust
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar your life is bust🤣
@@mikepelligrino6329 and look where Tannehill went after he left the Dolphins 😒. Seriously it’s like people don’t get that personnel matters. Build a system around a guy, and run it. Adam Gase was the problem as he subsequently ruined the Jets after his stint there.
Dude I’m a Bills fan. We gave Allen 3 years lmao and built a team around him. Look what happened. 13-3 AFCCG - it’s HIS franchise now. Dolphins fans, don’t worry about Tua give him time. Trust me
Josh Allen has a way better skill set let alone that his physical tools allow him a larger margin for error. Tua doesn't have that where the scheme has to be truly built around him. He's a classic pocket QB to where the system and personel have to be perfect around him. The question is that are the Dolphins committed to building the offense around Tua's strengths? Rather than becoming frustrated by his physical shortcomings.
Trust you?? LMAO!
@@johntrelthomas841 Josh Allen had 52% completion rate and made boned headed plays as a rookie. The only thing you could say was he was big and Strong his rookie year. And a runner.... That’s it! Don’t tell me he showed flashes his rookie year, Bills fan and the media ripped Allen. He has made an outstanding transition and Bills fan are in great shape moving forward with Allen now.
@Karamvir. Respect actual voice of reason....
100% agreed. I'm a Patriots fan 2.
The “real” reason he struggled is because he was a rookie in a covid year, with the worst weekly RB & WR corps in the league (injuries & no depth), awful play calling & he was coming off an injury.
Looking at him today, he looks bigger , stronger and has his team behind him with huge upgrades at offensive skill positions.
Super excited to see Tua ball this year
No arm strength, can’t read coverage, no foot speed , too small and injury prone
Check this out. Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert played in similar situations
Herbert was the most pressured QB on the entire nfl last year yet he balled out. Tua sucks this year too.
I don't get it. Tua played at a reasonable level for a rookie.
He has to step it up, good qbs don't make it anymore, ex. Dalton, Jimmy G, Goff
@@franchini_locos2072 dalton is still good
I think it’s also a comparison issue. People see that other quarterbacks in his draft class have found immediate success in the league (Burrow and Herbert) then look at Tua and expect him to do the same. And label him as a bust when he doesn’t live up to their expectations
if what you're hoping for is another Trent Dilfer. Looked like a mediocre game manager.
@@chipchaser44 A more modern example is Christian Ponder, who looked like a legit starter for a hot minute because he handed it off to AP.
I'm a Patriots fan and while I really dislike the Dolphins, I'm not gonna give up on Tua yet. He does have a lot of issues that he has to work on, but at the same time, it's just his rookie year and you can't always give up on guys after 1 season. Plus Tua didn't have a lot of in-person stuff in the offseason due to COVID, didn't have a good supporting cast, wasn't developed properly, was coming of a SERIOUS SERIOUS injury, was playing the hardest position in the game, and again, was a rookie who was bound to make some mistakes.
Not a dolphins fan but tua had no good wide receivers and made so really good passes
People forget that Preston Williams and Devante Parker missed A LOT of last season. Tua was throwing to second and third string pass catchers a lot of the second half of the season.
Granted, so was Fitz, who still made it work. But it's just something to remember when evaluating him and his unwillingness to throw to 50/50 balls. Throwing a 50/50 ball to Devante Parker is very different to throwing one to Allen Hurns lol
Appreciate your honestly, as a Dolphin fan, I’m not saying he’s going to be amazing, but I can’t remember the media the MSM ripping a kid to this level. It’s unreal. Tua was honest, wish he kept his mouth shut bout not really knowing the playbook all the way. The kid came off an injury, was rushed into the lineup, no OTA’s or preseason. He clearly lacked strength that he had at Bama... the kid played 9 games with below average OL and WRs.... And ppl want to give up on him. He actually showed us some upper end play and some bad play. He’s a rookie... This will be a big year for him.... either way! Respect ✊ to you!
@@matthewarrojas5183 plus Fitz had about 5 to 6 years with Gailey’s play book.... we have to remember that... Fitz recommended Gailey to coach Flores.
"You can't always give up on guys after 1 season"
The Cardinals: *Wut?*
The worst part is he didn't even "struggle". 14 total touchdowns to 5 interceptions after suffering an almost career-ending injury? Yeah that kid is special.
And no off-season
Trust me that was better than josh Allen sam Darnold Drew brees rookie seasons that’s just to name a few
😂😂😂
@@iBrianful whats funny?
You dolphins fans r crazy
I respect this video, but I feel it’s a bit misleading. A) Tua had no separation, and yes Ik not everyone gets to chose their dream team to play with, but Miami was last in separation and had the most drops. B) Take the bengals play u showed as an example. They blitz the extra man so he has to get the ball out quick, but Grant doesn’t run a clean route and Parker doesn’t turn his head. Now Tua is dead meat so he tried to wait for Gesicki to turn his head, because him throwing to unaware WRs happened too much. I’m confident that if they change the playbook (which they did), he’ll be real good
Yes but Tua has to see that coming and call it out,so one guy will shorten his route,thats part of his job to warn his guys,hes gotta see that coming!!
He probably wasn't allowed to audible yet,but still either call it out or call a TO if u got to and are able to,but it is up to the QB to know how to READ what the D is giving him!!
So I'm curious,what did u think of the play when Parker was open AND he even saw him and pulled it down for the sack!!had nothing to do with the offense or recievers or the line and I saw that multiple times last yr!!u cant just put the blame on the offense,cuz he is the field general out there and also Tua just said the other day that he didn't really know the play book that well!!that is not good,why would he not know the play book??that is why GAILEY had the offense so simplified while he was in there,so u gotta put a lot of the blame on Tua as well
The qbs dont wait for the reciver to turn their heads. Its not barnyard football!
@@richardmcguire6443 you don’t wait for them to turn the head, but when you are under pressure and the S is reading ur eyes u don’t throw it with anticipation. Get it low or get it out
If this is struggling, then what would you call Alex Smith or David Carr's first seasons? Disasters I would guess.
Fair point Paul! I wonder if Alex Smith's career would've played out in the same manner during social media times
And what about the lazt guy Miami drafted in 2012 at #8 Ryan Tannehill??u could say the same for him as hes gone on to have a pretty nice career and honestly he is putting up pro bowl numbers now and kinda always was right on that verge in MIAMI??
Look at Peyton Manning's rookie numbers.
@@Don-md6wn Let's be clear that it's not good to be bad in your rookie year just because Peyton Manning was bad in his rookie year
@@raypratt3611 i always thought that Tannehill was a solid qb. He had a really impressive season and winning streak in Miami until two of his o linemen got injured. Love watching him in Tennessee, so happy for him.
I want him to work out for the dolphins because us lefties haven’t had any great QBs in a while.
Yeah ever since Micheal Vick and Tim Tebow
@@domination4892 Tim Tebow? Lord!! That's the most unskilled qb ever drafted in the 1st dude could not complete 60% of his passes stop
Steve Young but yeah it's been a minute.
@@domination4892 Tim Tebow? That's the best you can mention? Kids these days. 🤦♂️ Try Steve Young he won a Superbowl as a lefty.
@@salamander337 he said “ not since” hes trying to bring up the most recent lefty qbs why the hell would he talk about a dude who played in the 80s
Y’all forgetting Tua and Burrow had very similar seasons statistically 🤨 nearly identical completion %, TD/Int, and started the same number of games.
Bengals had 1 ok WR and no O line and a horrible defense. Dolphins had a decent line, good receiving core and a good defense
@@srikar1726 Wasn’t really that good the oline was very inconsistent with 3 starting rookies and the receivers were always injured left to right and Jakeem grant is always gonna drop passes no matter who’s throwing to him
Tuas on target% was one of the lowest in the league. Meaning his similar completion % was mostly his receivers bailing him out
@@BrianWilliams-op6lv Thats not true
@@srikar1726 Calling that line decent is being very kind to it. And the Dolphins WRs sucked at getting YAC, which was Tua's game in college. They've given him receivers more suited to his skillset this off-season.
Honestly I don’t think he played bad, he was rookie plus he has high potential
Tua will be fine. He hasn’t been that bad and the system around him is amazing
😬
@@joebob6810 his system is hot garbage and he’s still been good
Considering all the things going against Tua in his first year. He did exactly what I thought he would do. Had small flashes of greatness, and definitely showed some weakness. He's got a much better supporting cast, and a playbook centered around his strengths. He's gonna a be much better next year. I believe in my QB.
He’ll be a top 10 qb next season
Chill top 15
lol top 20
Bottom 10
This the worst take of 2021
S I L E N C E
Packers fan here tua was good he had a 87 passer rating no good line no good wide receivers burrow sucked compared to him burrow had 2 really good wide receivers
I am a Miami fan and while I of course have doubts about Tua we haven't seen him on an NFL field 100% healthy with full command of the offense. It's way too early to pass judgement. They also went 6-3 in his starts and his Td to int ratio was respectable. If that's him at his worst then I think there's reason for optimism.
Not to poor salt on our wounds but he was very lucky for awhile cuz guys on the D he was playing kept dropping or getting his picks called back,or he would have been much closer to 11TD,11INT,go back and watch his first few starts,cuz it kept happening so he was pretty luck as far as the picks go
he did good without a real offseason and coming off injury and being a rookie
So is Fitzpatrick a all time goat because he did much better with "no offense"?
@@giovannygallardo692 fitz is an exp player
6/3 wins losses 11/5 tds int in 9 games is a bad season for a rookie ? Since when lol every NFL team would sign up for that before the season
Please look at the record of your best quarterbacks in their rookie season and you'll see that he was all right he's not as bad as you think
Great video! Thanks Alex!
Appreciate you Moises! Glad you like it
In college Tua had top quality support throughout his team which helped to make Tua look amazing. Same thing with Joe Burrow. Herbert had to learn how to scramble in college. In this respect I think Herbert had better "training" in college.
13 on the wonderlic and had trouble comprehending the playbook. His comments about the playbook is troubling
Wonderlic means nothing. Fitzpatrick had around a 48 and he makes terrible decisions, while Marino had a 16. Manziel had about a 30. Use other metrics when measuring qb intelligence
@Sentient Blob if your damn near illiterate I'm sure it's hard to learn a playbook. 10 or under is considered illiterate so it makes sense why tua had so much trouble understanding the playbook. Wonderlic isn't everything but if you score terribly low and are physically limited the future doesn't look good.
Tua took Wonderlic twice, and he improved from a score of 13 to about 18-19. The average score is 20 for the Wonderlic. Please be factual and not an idiot.
@@clownindan Tua Tagovailoa never said he didn't understand the playbook at all. He said, and emphasized, he didn't know the playbook "really, really good", meaning he didn't know the whole playbook from front to back, considering he didn't have the time to do so, because of the rehab process, the pandemic restrictions, and the lack of a proper NFL off-season/preseason. However, he probably did know about 40-60% of the playbook. He even added that he knew certain plays, that Chan Gailey was calling, did not work because of the look defenses were giving him, but since he didn't have the freedom to check out of plays and check into others, from the coaches, he stuck with the play(s). For example, after the Chargers game, Tua (in a post-game press conference) admitted that he and his teammates were sometimes not on the same page with Chan Gailey and his offensive play-calling. And do you even know how hard it is for a first-year rookie QB (or rookies, in general) to learn a complex NFL playbook (NFL playbooks are much thicker and have a lot more terminologies you have to learn/memorize), in their first year? Most rookie QBs in the NFL don't fully understand or memorize an NFL playbook in their first years, especially with all the obstacles and hardships, and unfortunate circumstances, that Tua had to endure in his first year, as an NFL rookie, and he still had a solid NFL rookie season, despite being out of football shape and around 60% healthy (according to Nick Hicks of Per4orm, Tua's personal fitness trainer). I took the Wonderlic and I didn't do to great either. It's a 50 Q test that you only have 12 min to answer; that test is worthless, and it does not determine a football player's IQ and acumen. Also, even Herbert and Brady (a 20+ year veteran NFL QB, the first season as a Buccaneers QB) admitted they didn't know their entire respective playbooks. You're just a fucking hater. Regarding Tua's intelligence and football IQ, you're severely underestimating his. Steve Sarkisian, Tua's former OC at Alabama (2019-2020), and Matt Ryan's former OC in ATL (2017-2018), and now the current HC for the University of Texas, said that Tua is the most naturally instinctual QB/signal-caller that he's ever coached, and that during live games, he would check-out/check into plays (audible) that the Alabama offense didn't even run in practice. So go kick rocks, you fucking clown 🤡.
@@iafigueroa91 I wonder if he didn't understand the playbook or if he just wasn't seeing open reads. He missed a ton of guys open downfield to checkdown for under 5 yards instead. He has got more to prove than any other young qb this year.
Excellent analysis! 🙌🏻
Thank you Blake brother!
I have to second that. Great job! 👍💯
I really hope Tua can turn it around soon. With a new system and new weapons who like you said fit his skill set better I think there is definetly cause 8to think that he'll take a step forward soon. Crazy that less than 2 years ago he was this insanely hyped up prospect. He had some great film in college and I really thought he would be something special at the next level.
Loved the episode (like always). I love how you explain these things that you hear a lot about. Usually you just hear/read these statements on ESPN or something without any film breakdown or anything (mostly just stats which can be missleading).
Appreciate it as always TLC! Yeah, I was very high on Tua when he was coming out. As I mentioned, I was really surprised how little his strengths translated in his first year. But there are so many variables in football, it could've been the scheme, the personnel or him.. that's what makes it fun!
If you mean that by Tua being benched multiple times equaling just twice, the yeah, he was benched multiple times.
That's what multiple means!
@@AlexRollinsNFL And Tom Brady has had multiple seasons where he missed games.
@@AlexRollinsNFL it’s the crafty under handed word choice that he’s referring to. You chose to use the word ‘multiple’ for dramatic effect and drive your bias point home. You could have simply said he was benched ‘twice’ but it wouldn’t paint the picture of concern that you’re trying to convey to the viewers. It’s word play and over sensationalism from the School of Skip Bayless and Colin Cowherd.
Flo clearly said in a interview " If it was up to me or my kid he would sit this season" Stephen M. Ross made that decision to put he's brand new toy in after the bye week Not Flo or Chris Grier.
Amazing video seriously
Appreciate you bro!!
Tua may also be a guy who has a learning style that doesn't pick up things quickly but when he does learn it and gets comfortable with the information he never forgets it. As a freshman at Alabama he played sparingly and it wasn't until the second half of the national championship game where we really saw him and even in that game he made several questionable decisions. The next year he was spectacular and as a former high school teacher I used to see this with students. Some students were slow learners but once they grasped the concepts they never forgot it and applied their knowledge consistently over and over with very few mistakes while others learned concepts quickly but were inconsistent in applying what they learned. It's also possible Tua could be a bust or just okay but in the short history we have with him on the field he doesn't seem to be a guy who just grasp concepts quickly but did show he can grow and grasp those concepts eventually.
A lot of your points seemed forced and used plays that you expected him to do impossible things such as the chargers play. The only one that had legitimacy was the chiefs play when he missed Parker wide open
Oh man hopefully he can improve want to see him do well
Me too!
Great video. This is the narrative that should be surrounding Tua, not BUST and TRADE
Appreciate you Bobby! These are the concerns and why they happened. They weren't all on Tua, but he certainly struggled. He's not a bust and Miami clearly is moving forward with him based on their moves in the offseason
Beautiful!! Fins up!!🐬
I'm a Phins fan and I'm hopeful for Tua due to his adjustments and learning as the season went on and I'm curious about your thoughts about his development throughout both games and the season. For example you talked about pushing the ball down the field and was curious on your thoughts about his ability to push the ball down field near the end of the game I'm not sure if you have anything to say about it but there was a nice deep ball to Parker that sticks out to me and I think it went for about 40 ish yards but I was wondering if you would call that development of his deep ball or more due to the desperate state the Dolphins were in at that point in the game
I'm not entirely sure which games you're talking about.
I'm extremely concerned about Tua's ability to push the ball down field whether it be on 9 balls or driving deep in cuts. I'm hoping that was more due to his injury, but I have my doubts
Nice, I think your right that Miami will develop schemes and plays to fit Tua this year with their new offensive coordinators.
alright, i know quite a bit, but im definitely not an expert on this in any sense of the word. but what was confusing to me is that he said tua would attempt to scramble around to make plays, and it just wasnt his game, which is potentially true, tho i do believe he can do it. but he showed a play in which there was a guy screaming off the edge, so he stepped up correctly, and then a guy came right up the middle and flushed him out, dont blame him for not standing in the pocket on a play in which there is no pocket to stand in. Maybe this was a trend he saw on film, but then there has to be a better example than that. \
Yeah, I saw that Rams play too like what was he talking about. I saw a stat that said Tua had the best rating in the entire NFL with a clean pocket. 10tds 0ints. I don't know how true it is but I imagine there's very few plays where he ran because he saw ghosts. He's definitely pass first run last
Tua will be fine. Cant expect a rookie to do everything in year 1. Now that he has a off season and preseason, he can use that to work on his health and craft. I for one thought he was about to beat the chiefs last season too and its hard to beat the chiefs unless you have a defense to match or exceed what the chiefs can bring
Sounds like the issue wasn't Tua alone. Dolphins with Tua starting were 6-3 with 4 rookie starters and coming off a major injury that pretty good.
Tua had a great rookie season compared to almost any QB who ever played. Better than Peyton, Elway, Aikman, etc.
All the while having no preseason, no offseason, no o-line, no run game, worst WR Corp in the game and coming off hip surgery.
Despite all that he somehow completed 64% of his passes and threw twice as many TD as Ints. Impressive. Can’t wait to see what he does this year with that experience under his belt and a proper offseason to prepare with better WRs and an improved o-Line
You comparing Tua to decades ago lmao. Rules/technology/medication/play callings is much difference. Tua injuries probably wouldn't even played in the old days.
Moses Moua he also had a better rookie season than Josh Allen by a mile. The same Josh Allen who finally in his 3rd year looked like a NFL QB and was in the MVP talks.
Dude you’re so right. Football isn’t actually a team sport. It should just be the QB vs. the defense. Any half-way decent QB can win games all by themselves. Great job.
To add Tua admitted in a recent interview that he had no idea how the play book worked. Admitted to being distracted and said he is way more comfortable going into season 2
Fair enough. Great video
Glad you like it!
I’ve been defending Tua for a yr now. And his comments about not knowing the playbook hurt my arguments. But come on. 4:30 Tua had to avoid a guy wrapped around his neck as soon as he hit his back foot. And scrambled out to his weak side and made an accurate throw that the WR couldn’t get to.
That was a good play, it looked like Russ.
What Tua was really saying was "I couldn't understand why Gailey would call dumb plays like bubble screens at the 3yd line and not allow me to change them at the line when even an idiot could see the play won't work. There must be some thought process in his playbook I'm missing. But I ran the plays anyway and won't throw him under the bus. Put all the blame on me. But it's ok though. I got coaches now that value what I see and who'll design game plans suited towards my strengths". It's clear as day that's what Tua was saying. I'm baffled as to how everyone else didn't see he was just avoiding throwing Gailey under the bus with his comments
@@exillens I’ll take that!
@@patrickadonislewis Justin Herbert said himself he has a lot to improve on to master the offense so he can have a plan as exactly what to do at the line. Only casuals and Josh Rosen fans mad their guy can't make it off practice squads are in shock that a rookie QB hasn't mastered or knows a playbook "really really good". But what Tua really didn't have was trust from his oc to change plays and if you listen it's clear as day what he was actually meaning
He did fine guys remeber the dolphins record last season😂
Yea cuz of fitz and mostly cuz of an awesome D,don't get crazy with Tua being the reason they won and u dont draft a QB at #5 to have the worlds BEST F'N GAME MANAGER and not even that a lot!!😂😂😂
@@raypratt3611 lol, Fitz was 4-3 and 3 of his wins were against the Jets and Jags--the two worst teams in the NFL😂😂😂
The kid went from always having the better players on the field on his team to playing fair. It's understandable that he struggled. He expected little things like having enough time that he didn't need to throw unless he was sure.
I dont really even know if it is fair lol. Miami Dolphins receivers, O-line, and running back were all well below average.
Gailey is the smart one he said I quit. Now Grier can point the finger at one of his 2 oc. Lol
Gailey retiring after one season is a major red flag
@@AlexRollinsNFL yup I can't disagree with you but the nfl has changed the rpo is the future like the west coast offence in the 90,s
Nice!!!
It just goes show how teams don't do well analyzing their quarterbacks and what system would best fit them. When I saw the Cleveland Browns had hired Kevin Stefanski I was excited that finally the team had took the time to figure out what system would be great for their quarterback.
i'll make this easy - imagine coming into your first season in the NFL as a rookie whilst not fully fit and off the back of a major hip injury (will effect all aspects of throwing and movement) and no pre-season at all to speak of. He still went 6 for 3 and there weren't enough weapons for him. He barely knew the playbook as you can go through the plays as many times as you want on a tablet, but this isn't Madden - PLAYING those plays is what gets you familiarity and used to the pre snap audibles.
In the UK they put a huge amount of emphasis on pre-season in the Premier League in soccer as that is where a player gets his chemistry with his team mates and learns the tactics, yes it's a different sport but i'd argue that in the NFL there is much more to learn with the variety in a playbook and the chemistry with a larger group of players - it's played down too much by the NFL media.
If he and Gaskin improve just a little this year then Miami should make the playoffs.
We also lost Preston Williams for the season during the Cardinals game that hurt Tua as well
The only knock I really understand about Tua is that he's small, doesn't have the strongest arm, and isn't the best athlete (but athletic enough to buy some extra time). But Baker Mayfield has proven that even with limitations you can still win and compete with the best in the league, as long as the team around you is properly constructed. I'd bet on Flores/Grier to build the right team around Tua before I bet on Tua being a bust. People just need to realize you don't have to be Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, etc to be considered a good NFL QB. Winning is winning, and until the Dolphins start losing BECAUSE OF Tua, stay patient with him.
On the play Tua got hurt on in college, he decided to scramble to the flat and gets sacked by 3 guys, so he does like to scramble a bit.
Yeah, that's why I'm worried. He needs to play predominantly from the pocket, but sometimes he prioritized using his legs
Tua’s ceiling will always be second best QB in the AFC East but it’s not all bad if the Dolphins install a timing-based offense around him.
I’m not a huge Wilson fan but he’s definitely better than Tua.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx I really can’t put a QB who hasn’t taken a single snap yet over Tua
like ur right, but thats a bit missleading when you consider josh allen is on of the most physically gifted qbs in the league, but again, ur still right
Why I ALWAYS say, it’s about the team coaches and organization that these guys are drafted to!!! Great Coaches build schemes around the QB while others put you in a scheme and make you conform to it!
This reminds me of San Diego when Brees was drafted!! He sat his 1st year and wasn’t good until his 4th year in the league under Marty... But didn’t become great until he got with Payton in his 5th year who immediately build a scheme around his strengths day 1!!!
All great coaches build their offense around what they have!!
I think they're certainly taking the right steps this offseason, I hope Tua pans out!
@@AlexRollinsNFL Same!
That play at 6:45 is infuriating. I don't think Tua is a bust, but that seems like a play that a high school qb could make...
Love how the O-line direct traffic to Tua while you speak about his struggles…🤣🤣🤣
That's quite the laundry list of things he needs to improve to be successful. Not sure he can do it. I could see if it was a couple of things he would need to address, but you listed like 10 things. Good luck.
I agree and approve this message!!!
Appreciate the hard work on the video. Though I doubt the outlook is as bleak as portrayed in this video. I believe in Tua..... Miami I am more worried about
Thanks OD. I love what Miami is doing on defense, but I'm worried about the offense. I like surrounding Tua with quality pieces that more fit his style, but I'm worried about the direction of the overall unit.
@@AlexRollinsNFL exactly and agreed, they haven't shown to create a system or scheme to elevate QB play under Flores. I honestly think they didn't coach Tua has a starter (outside of Flores himself).
I must admit I'm guilty of this; not pouring into young gifted players enough in season when you have a less gifted but more reliable starter.
@@mroverdose14 Why do you think they switched to Tua? In my opinion, they knew their team's ceiling was limited so they wanted to see if Tua was the guy and if he wasn't they'd draft a top 5 guy with the Texans pick. I guess they liked him enough, but Flores benching him twice in game is a huge red flag
@@AlexRollinsNFL From reports (couldn't watch them in camp due to COVID) he looked good and was even with Fritz in most areas. You would be correct that they wanted to see what they had and understood he was also was the future but he also earned his playing time.
Being pulled
This is all my speculation:
Gaily asked for it and suspected Fritz mentality gave them a better chance to win as he doesn't think as much in game better post snap. (Tua can be seen thinking way to much slowing his processing speed down).
Tua wasn't playing to win (outside of Cardinals, second half of the Bengals, the Chiefs) this is also play calling which scares me cause that's a coaching issue on top of the rookie issues Tua had.
In summary, Gaily wasn't a bad OC just for the direction of this team and Tua. I wish they brought in different coaches but we'll see and the talent brought in is good but I always said Tua should have a Run game.
When he struggle in the first half vs LSU they worked the Run game to get Tua back in a rhythm.
Miami is border line arrogant in their Player Development.
I am too tho, lol. Can turn talent into a player. They were never drafting a QB this year unless Tua was God awful like Rosen
He was a rookie coming off a major injury WITHOUT a real training camp and NO preseason. The offense was tailored to Fitz, multiple WRs opted out and multiple WRs were hurt. He went 6-3 (Fitz gets that other win) and he was pulled twice, once when it was obvious he was going to get hurt and once when he just wasn't moving the ball; both instances, down by only one score. There were multiple rookies starting along the O line and a couple vets they brought in were steady but not great. He had no running game to speak of most weeks. The plan was for him to go in after the bye week but because the pretty, pretty princess Patriots had trouble, the whole league adjusted their schedule making him come in weeks before he was supposed to be in there (original bye was a full year after his injury). If that is struggling, I will take it every time...6-3, 64% 11-5 as a rookie.
This year, he will have better core and lower body strength and an offense designed for him and will know it with a full off season. Don't wring your hands.
Speed kills.. #GoDolphins #Subbed
Tua is going to be a total champ next year after he admitted everything he didn't know my god when he figures it out I cant imagine it
you can say what you want about Tua, the biggest factor, IMHO was the fact he didn't know the entire playbook, that's on him and it speaks to commitment, if I was a reporter I'd ask him why did this happen
Tua is a rookie, he had a better statistical season than most rookies ever. He also was coming back from a potentially career ending injury, he defied the odds. He also could not play football at that time, no practice whatsoever. He overcame so many obstacles and still performed decent. If he was that decent after coming back from all of this then I cannot imagine how good he can be when he is healthy, learned the playbook, and ready. Also, there are many QBs that have had not so great seasons but they are not getting called a bust, for example, Sam Darnold. Tua has an underwhelming season and that makes him an automatic bust? No. Also, no hat to Darnold, I like him.
The problem with Tua is not that he struggled, every rookie does, it’s that he struggled with things that were supposed to be strengths, and didn’t offset his weaknesses with anything
It’s cuz it came off of rehab with no ota...or training camp.....
I bet you would be a little less good at flipping burgers or shoveling driveways if you couldnt even walk a few months before you had to go out and be the best burgerking has ever seen...
@@d8l835 personal attacks are the best dude, totally get your point across, like I said earlier, he wasn’t good at the things he was billed to be good at, and he dosent have the natural talent to overcome the deficiencies he has
@@jamesonevers3262 not a personal attack, an assumption sure, but with the quality of that "hot take" i felt it was an edecuated assumption. Point still stands bud. Get all butt hurt if you want to, doesnt change what i said or that you cant fathom a serious injury months before he had to play the hardest position in sports for the first time in the hardest league to play in would somehow negatively effect his game... your being unreasonable bro, and you know it
@@d8l835 well it’s certainly a wrong assumption but you do you, did it affect him, certainly, but even If he’s a lot better, he’s never going to be talented enough to be a top 10 QB, the injury didn’t affect a lot of things that were still bad like his processing, which was bad, he was fooled constantly but late coverage rotations, from 1 high too 2 or visa versa, and his accuracy wasn’t nearly what it was at Alabama, all cause for concern, on top of the fact he isn’t Patrick mahomes or Josh Allen level talented, there is legitimate reasons for concern
Hey Alex love the video but you do have 1 thing wrong. Showing the Cardinals game for examples isn't accurate because Chan Gailey didnt even coach that game, he was out with covid protocol, one of our new OC coaches the game and was in tua ear the whole time. Godsey. Looking at the cards game and comparing it to other games last season it shows the changes our offense will take a step towards
Thanks for the note Miller, I did miss that. However Gailey installed his offense at the beginning of the year, that same offense was still installed during the Cardinals game.
At the time before and after the draft nobody was questioning the Phins decision to get him , Herbert's success didn't help !! Even as a Bolts fan I'm pulling for him , but comments about not knowing the playbook should never have been spoken !!!⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Agreed on all accounts!
Let’s see AJ Brown!
Great analysis on Tua
Thanks brother! I analyzed him a bit in my Titans episode during the season, but I'll definitely consider dedicating a full episode to him!
Very insightful! You've explained not only Miami's on-field struggles, but some of their draft decisions, too.
Glad you like it Patrick!
I’m surprised we aren’t already getting a ton of talk of Tua over Herbert being a colossal Trubisky/Mahomes/ Watson mistake. He just clearly isn’t as good as Herbert in any aspect of the game.
MClayton 25 oh we’re sorry we forgot that tua was the one who broke nearly every rookie qb record & didn’t get benched twice vs teams that missed the playoffs... weep Miami fans
@MClayton 25 name one thing Tua is as good or better than Herbert at. I dare you. You can’t.
@MClayton 25 ya know, I actually admire how upbeat you are about your football team, too many supposed fans do nothing but whine about their team, that’s not you and I don’t want to detract from that.
@MClayton 25 homie its miami you had to wear shades anyways, thanks for the vid recommendation, you have given me hours of content to waste my time to and bore the everliving shit out of my friends with, much respect
@MClayton 25 bro you just babbling a bunch of nonsense now lol. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle analogy. Arizona got their QB/Coach and hasn't done jack sh*t for an playoff and Murray is more talented than Tua.
In terms of the td-int ration Tua was on pace to be slightly better than Kyler Murray in their rookie seasons.
The media showered one with praise and gave up on the other.
The #1 reason for Tuas struggle is that the Miami Oline ranked #28 in the NFL in 2020.
Do .... your ... homework !!!
I mean, Herbert had the 32nd ranked line in the NFL and he was OROY. Tua needs another excuse.
Hear me out here... I think the Dolphins are the most slept on / underrated team in the NFL right now , just gotta prove that they’re serious playoff contenders this year and go on from there.
#1-health-You can see that he did not trust his hip in some of those throws. He didn’t have a strong set, build of energy or follow through from his waist down. That will kill his pass strength and lead to uneasiness in the pocket. You can definitely see a difference in his throwing motion right now but he is not being rushed yet.
#2-knowledge of the playbook- Was this only on him or did Gaily have say in this also. We will never know for sure but some will pretend too. Either way more comfort in a playbook designed for him will be a huge boost. Gaily did say he did not like the style of play Tua was comfortable with last year.
#3-the team around him-3 starting rookie Olineman with Karros, Flowers and Davis mixed in. Great potential but that did not help last year. Parker, Gesicki, Williams for a bit then Grant who was going to be at best the 5th WR option bumped up to #3, Bowden who was a project and then special teasers and practice squaders to throw to. The unknown backfield that relied on the #3 RB.
#4-ROOKIE-Tua was a rookie on a team that had an awesome defense and was looking to make the playoffs. In that situation the play calling for him was going to be conservative anyway. In other words don’t lose the game. He also had to get used to the speed of the opposing D lineman trying to kill him yet alone the coverage.
Those are all facts that surrounded Tua’s rookie year. Not excuses but facts. #1&3 seem to be handled. It is on Tua to take care of #2&4. In my opinion I think he will rise to the occasion but what do I know? I’m just a hopeful Dolphins fan in Ohio wanting a Super Bowl.
Some of the great QBs in league history took some time to develop before they became the all-time greats that we know them as today. Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning, among others. Just because a QB didn't throw for 3,000+ yards and 20+ TDs in his rookie year doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be a bust.
I agree, nobody said he's a bust. But because those QBs had their struggles in their rookie season doesn't mean it's good to struggle. Tua isn't done, but his rookie year brought up serious concern
@@AlexRollinsNFL so you're saying his struggles are different from their struggles
@@williefilmore5836 No, I'm saying it's not good to struggle just because QBs who turned out to be good also struggled at the beginning of their careers.
@@AlexRollinsNFL so you jumped right out the womb and started dancing, you didn't struggle to STAND or WALK... Struggling is a part of life you should not be afraid of it.. life is iron, struggling is the heat and hammer that shapes it.
@@williefilmore5836 tua was supposed to be the most pro ready qb from the draft but he looked scared at times and missed seeing wide open guys. Red zone and 3rd down were huge problems for tua and if he doesn't improve the dolphins will have a bad year.
Already know dis finna be good bro.
Thanks bro!!
This is interesting as it makes sense they really need to talk to drew brees or look into bill walshes system of west coast of quick and horizontal but high percentage if you have the right qb, he’ll need good pass catching running backs at least 1-2 big body contested catch receivers wich is funny as Michael Thomas filled this role at the end of Drew’s career and davante might be his equivalent but if they can do that the offense would be different than Sean Payton’s but be just as deadly effective and suffocating
Media said he struggled so everyone believed it. Completely ignoring how desparate Dolphins were for a reciever that they reached for Jaylen Waddle in the draft. The best young QB's usually have the best supporting casts. Good running game or good recievers. Tua had neither. But we expected him to have Justin Herbert numbers.
The decision to bench Fitzpatrick for Tua when he was doing fine has made so many unnecessary hot seats
You have to see at the time Miami was in the middle of a playoff race and Fitzpatrick wasn’t terrible but he wasn’t really that good either there were games against the jets jaguars and Seahawks were he struggle to throw passes downfield against the worst defenses so it had more to do with the fact that they wanted tua to get some experience while at the same time they knew tua could’ve at least replicate what fitz was doing which was be a game manager at that point
@@RandomRay1 yeah but Tua wasn't ready and now they're ready to throw him away it's all over the place with this organization. And thats why this team hasn't been on shit since Marino.
@@McGatts lol there not ready to “throw him away”. That’s why they got all the receivers that best fit is play style and they got offense coordinators that are best suited for him. If any wants to “throw him away” that’s the media and all the pundits. There ofc gonna say that because that’s what gets everyone all fired up and that’s how they get there clicks. As for being inconsistent with the QBs since dan Marino that was also due to lack of decent coaching and had to due with bad luck as well
Still shocking! I wish we could give their front office truth serum to find out what REALLY happened with that decision
Tua will be alright, he was a rookie comming out of major injury and playbook was not to his strengths it's was a learning curve his rookie year all these arm chair critics will eat crow when Tua balls out.
Burrow didn't play leagues better. People was hyping him (cause he made a splash play or two for a bad team) and let the media control the narrative.
Tua was hesitant and had less talent at nearly every level of the offense then the other rookies.
I'm not worried at all. This very page called Tua a system QB, just like Brady, Dress, nearly every QB in the league that has success.
What happens when you put Tua in a (honestly) bad system. Fritz played good but was still a middle of the pack QB in a system built for him.
Tua will look completely different. I'll beat on it. I seen enough to cultivate a top 10 QB.
Ngl, we don't know much about what happens behind the scenes but I believe Chan Gailey definitely had something to do with Tua's unsuccess. Apparently he preferred Fitzpatrick under center and I wonder if he purposefully made it hard for Tua to learn the playbook and develop in general. We know that he called more conservative plays for Tua compared to Fitzpatrick, but I feel that he almost "set him up" for "failure". Perhaps Gailey was the voice to bench him in those games. Either way, new OCs, new playbook. Time to reset Tua. It's Tua time again.
The struggle of being a Dolphins fan nowadays is that most other Dolphins fans is looking for a guy to splash into the league like a Justin Herbert and rather not look at the upside to a project. Brian Flores is a lot better than Adam Gase. I don’t think he’s gonna waste Tua’s potential. And he’s definitely not a bust.
It's hard to play for a team that doesn't want in the first place I feel sorry for Tua Tagovailoa he had a bad hip, it was during Coronavirus pandemic, if u didn't want Tua u should've drafted Justin Herbert
People forget that his hip injury existed and wasn’t at full strength
these kinda lets be know Fitz won't last in Wash depending on the scheme
The Dolphins limited the playbook options for Tua. If they were that serious about his lack of talent, or progression they would have taken Lance, Fields, or Jones. They babied him due to his injury, they were surprisingly in the playoff hunt a year early. That is why they hedged the bet with Fitzpatrick/Tua.
They had no running back, a weak offensive line, and no true speedster on the outside.
Tua is in a Trubisky situation. He didn't played OK. But it seems like the guy they passed up( Herbert) is player better than the one they drafted. That will get fans talking. On a side note If Fields turns out to be better than the QBs taken ahead of him someone should be fired
He was still injured from his hip he wasn't 100% coming in and probably want be for 1 or 2 years to heal from that hop injury be patient he will show a lot of improvement this year. Roll tide.
I’m not at all impressed by him but that doesn’t mean he won’t shine after some development and adjustments around him
Well not saying that tua is gonna be Drew Brees but Drew brees didn’t look impressive nither did Patrick Mahomes in the small sample size of games in 2017 and look how that turned out 🤷♂️
@@RandomRay1 Well I seen a lot of QB didn't start out well and turned out to be sh*t what's your point? Lol
@@mosesmoua2012 Point is no one has any idea what a rookie QB will turn into. For every rookie QB that had shittier seasons than Tua like Elway, Manning, McNabb and Josh Allen. There's a RG3 who started off hot and flopped. And there's Sam Darnold who remained crappy. I don't know if Tua will be great but I imagine he was playing at 80% strength a year after hip surgery, he even was smaller in college. I can really judge him this season
Tua will be fine.Not worried 1 bit.
Because he's a rookie and rookies make mistakes and you can't expect rookies to be great as soon as they drafted. I hate how some people are calling him a bust. Also it there was a NFL minor league I think Tua will be apart of the minor league for a couple games.
Also for people comparing Herbert and Burrow against Tua. They did not have a serious injury and did not have their last college season cut it. As Tua had. People don’t realize the serious injury Tua had. Plus passing time rehabing instead of training. So what do you expect?
yes
Teams that draft QB's in the first round need to play too the QBs strengths, as well as try and improve the weaker parts of their game.
Teams that take a scrambling QB and expect him to be a pocket passer is going to fail most times.
Didn’t Tua say that he thought the NFL would be harder
Kinda.. he said he thought the transition would be harder after he had a big game against the Cardinals I believe. But then he started to struggle.. I'm sure he regrets saying it even if it was taken out of context
Ok so heres why I think his first season wasnt great but next year will be, first off he was a rookie, not all rookies develope as fast as herbert or burrow, second he admitted the Hip still bothered him but through the offseason physical training he feels its completely gone and hes back to normal, and third he said he also didnt really know the playbook leading to longer time to find his targets and of course more mistakes. Anybody saying Tua is a bust already is in for a treat next season, mark my words.
Maybe Tua didn’t look to have the athleticism because he was still a couple months removed from rehabbing his hip?
No excuses this year after getting top tier weapons
Yeah I havent watched the video... but I too can't understand why his job is on the line after just 1 season. Considering everything that happened last season with the Covid protocols that limit team meetings, I think people should give him a bit more time.
Or maybe I'm just failing to see his shortcomings.
Watch the video