If he was to be a master. A master of what? He was too emotionally unstable. The title of master is not granted it is earned. Not due to service of a cause. A master must master himself. And Anakin was a slave of his emotions. Played like a fiddle by Sidious.
@@thijsjong technically Anakin should've been granted the rank of master after the council approved Ahsoka being promoted to knight - then none of this would have happened. Anakin also would have been granted the rank of master had the Jedi strike team survived, or he actually completed his destiny and helped Mace defeat Sidious
Notice how in these videos, anytime anyone calls out Vader as being a slave to Palpatine, he never tries to defend him or claim that being his apprentice isn’t that bad. He knows Palpatine is an asshole lol
I mean, once Luke came along Palpatine tried to dispose of Vader because despite his bravado Vader's power is a shadow of what it could've been had he not been burned to a crisp on Mustafar.
@muigokublack6487 again, that is Legends material. He only locked in his potential in Canon because of how deeply he hated himself and his mental state.
I love how these shorts hammer home the idea that Vader *isn't* separate from Anakin Skywalker like Disney Lucasfilm often tries to portray. It's literally the same guy. Anakan never went away, Vader didn't "kill" him. That's just what Anakin tells himself to try to bury the pain.
You know there is a thing like BPD right ? Anakin FOR SURE has developed a type of dissociative disorder due to his trauma so it’s not “wrong” to portray them that way
Yep Anakin was the one who responsible for his own actions and with this short it shows Windu won the battle with words in the end he proves being right Anakin/Vader are one of the same.
@ imagine defending the Jedi Council and Windu in 2024 🫵😂. Buddy , yes, Anakin had his share of responsibility , but Windu FAILED the entire order with his dogmatic views , arrogance, self righteousness, and inability to change. He DOOMED the order as he essentially let Palpatine do whatever he wanted under his nose, because under his leadership and Yodas, they strayed the order away from what it truly was supposed to be
Indeed! Any real & genuine SW fan knows of this. It has been perfectly clear ever since the OT, especially since ROTJ. Anakin never went away, never died. If he had, Luke had spoken to no one & Anakin had never returned. Those that separate Vader & Anakin, that regard them as two different beings, they do not understand SW at all.
You cannot pretend Lucas didnt have Vader be "separate" from Anakin. For f sake, Obi-Wan didn't tell Luke what really happened to his father, he told him that VADER KILLED HIS FATHER.
@@gavintheg.o.a.t2001don’t think he would get that far. Mace is very powerful in his own right and has vappad, which means he can channel the dark side and use it against dark side users.
@@richardched6085 Yeah, but against someone who is very conflicted & has a little bit of light still inside (Anakin/Vader), that’s different. I sound like Star Wars Theory
As iconic as Vader is visually, and I hate to say this, but the more analysis of his origin story from the Prequels is revealed, it actually makes him more like a very sorry character
He was always a tragic character. The fact his strongest hatred is turned inward isn't really a dealbreaker. It speaks to how he was ultimately redeemed, because the love of his son helped him get past the self-loathing and free himself.
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Vader the merciless. Darth Vader was a dark lord of the Sith, who was once the most feared force user in all of galactic history. He had such a strong connection to the force that everything he did wasn't just exponentially enhanced but came to him as natural as breathing. However, this strength combined with his emotional Insecurities, bred a destructive arrogance within him. Eventually, Vader's ambition and thirst for power led to the very thing he was afraid to lose. He's Fear led him to Slaughter the innocent in a storm of pain and anger. His anger fueled a hatred that consumed those who he once called his friends, those how he considered his brothers, his sisters, and those Is whom he once loved in hatred. His hatred consumed the Galaxy in darkness, it turned the peaceful Republic, into the oppressive Empire. It causes his best friend and mentor along with his apprentice to hind themselves. It caused the death of his wife. and most of all It consumed him to suffer for the last 24 years of his life.
@@retrowavesamurai Vader reached his full potential in the ROTJ Movie Novel, in theory what Vader got of it was Raw Power and not everything as he needs to be Anakin Skywalker full of Balance and one with the Force, there he will be in his Real Full Potential.
Vader after dying and entering the Force like Force Ghost. Windu: Hello young Skywalker Ani: Im very sorry to kill you Master Windu. Windu: I accept your apology, but even then, you still wont have the rank of Master.
Just wanted to comment and say these are absolutely great, it’s really appreciated. I haven’t subbed to nor watched a Star Wars UA-camr this much for a while.
Did Anakin really let his mother die in chain? If he followed the teachings to the letter would she still not have been a slave and died while Anakin was meditating with Yoda somewhere?
„The same scared boy, who let his mother die a slave" That's rich, coming from Windu, considering Anakin had to go save her in secret of the jedi, because they wouldn't do shit to help her, or other slaves
Still would be a cool idea if Windu and Anakin talked in the afterlife after Anakin's redemption. The two of them finally burying the hatchet after discussing their faults with each other.
Reminds me of one Jedi that perhaps Vader hates most, maybe even more than Obi-Wan himself, enough to chuckle at his misery and cowardice (from his point of view) - Ferus Olin. After Olin learnt Vader was Anakin and all what he did, even to his wife Padme, a shit the Jedi was telling Vader during duels was enough to really make Sith Lord lose mind with burning fury and madness.
Windu: In the end, Skywalker, you proved what I always knew to be true. That you were someone not to be trusted. Your fate was that of a weak hearted man who let his fear and insecurities control him.
And how right Mace was. Anakin fought so hard to be free and make a name for himself and then as Vader allowed himself to be bound once more. He spent most of his life as a slave, first out of unfortunate circumstance and then by his own choice.
Actually, to correct the record, It's the Jedi who left the mother to die a slave, when they took the boy and sailed off in their sparkling shiny ships to their warm chambers in the Galactic capitol. Anakin's flaw is letting the outrageous oversight continue after he became an adult.
After killing Windu Vader: Also, your career is already ruined since you’re found as a criminal for starting the Clone Wars. Anyways, i’m taking your head to the Emperor now
Id like to think that there wouldnt be much dialog between these two. Straight to business. Maybe some mid fight like obi and anakin in ROTS but thats it.
Obi Wan: And you know what they call a... a... a Anakin Skywalker in Paris? Mace: They don't call it a Jedi? Obi Wan: No man, they got Cubism and Post-Impressionism. They wouldn't know what the f*** a Jedi is. Mace: Then what do they call it? Obi Wan: They call it a Flambé sans limbs. 🔥
"Had you listened to me and not tried to commit murder and force the Jedi into a role darker than it already was, I'dve had no need to side with Sidious! Had you and our 'brothers and sisters' not trained us to let go of all attachments, I'dve saved my mother sooner!! And as for her, her death was my fault, and yours!!! I knew you always feared me Mace. Feared that I would be the great Jedi you never could be. But all I wanted was to protect my people, but you all looked down upon attachments. Everything that's happened thus far is no less your fault than mine. Remember that as I strike you down as I did the others!!!"
Windu should've applied this wisdom when palpetine was slowly manipulating him and the crazy part is windu knew the dark side surrounded Palpetine and sensed Anakin was confused. Windu couldn't even balance his own common sense how the hell he's going to help Anakin 😂and he talks with too much authority and Anakin is young and don't like that
I love these but to be honest Windu has a lot of nerve telling vader he let his mother die a slave When it was the Jedi allowing slavery to exist and the Jedi who wouldn't interfere on Shmi's behalf and prevented anakin from ever seeking her out to prevent "attachment".
The Jedi never allowed slavery to exist. They are part of the republic and Tatooine doesn't go by what the Republic says, hence why slavery is allowed there. Nobody knew she would die though. He definitely didn't allow her to die, but he did allow her death to influence him greatly and turn closer to the dark side.
@@Yabuturtle It wasn't worth it to the jedi to go free the literal "Chosen One's" mother from the literal slavery that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan left her in, because it wasn't the Jedi's place to interfere with Slavery on a planet outside the Republic's influence. And not for at least a decade and a half would they ever send anyone back to Tatooine to change things, not the Republic, not the Jedi. Really great people, that Jedi Order. Really great foresight in thinking that wouldn't *screw* an orphan's mind up. That he should just "get over" his mother being left to a completely uncertain fate (which certainly wound up being her possible r*pe and torture to death at the hands of Tuskens). Nope, if Anakin was a "Real Jedi" he would've just gotten completely over her and never bothered going to find her in the first place! Oh, and Windu's choice to bring three "jedi council members" to Palpatine's office, three of whom get wiped within seconds, instead of said, Literal, Chosen One.
You made Windu logical. Doesnt track. Windu is why anakin fell. His treatment of Anakin including rejection, jealousy, arrogance, lack of support, suspicion, fear, and shortsightedness played into palps hand. Windu is the jedis failure personified.
I agree to a point... But the truth is that Mace was right about Anakin... He knew something was wrong with this kid.. lol But his lack tolerance and failure to actually get to know Anakin made Anakin feel distant from the Jedi
mace sensed there was something iffy about anakin but chose to not to help him with his inner turmoil, with mace being closer to the dark side than most jedi he could have helped anakin the most in staying in the light but he choose to be distant and distrustful.
@@MrRasheed7 It was more than that. He always gave him the cold shoulder and was more dismissive if not frankly disparaging about Anakin. He seems to have never really even tried. Self fulfilling actions. If you create resentment, you shouldn't be surprised by it. As has been pointed out- the Jedi were failing. They failed Ahsoka, they failed Baris, and they failed Anakin. Windu embodies that failure.
@@bill7533 Yeah I think Anakin was basically "out of control" on an emotional level. Not even Padme and Obi Wan could satisfy him emotionally. I dont think Mace bears more blame than anyone else over why Anakin turned to the dark side. Mace was the stern Jedi, He acted the same way toward the other Jedi. Alot of the blame falls on Anakin for what he became. Padme begged him.. Obi Wan tried to stop him. He is to blame for what happened. But!!!! I do agree that Palpatine was right about the Jedi. Their arrogance did blind them, and Mace is a great example of this. He loved the republic when he should have been following the force. Yoda was rigid. Obi Wan was a brother when Anakin prolly needed a father figure. There is a lot going on.. One thing is certain.. Its a great story and I love talking about it
I just take it. That this windu is still prideful but he's learnt alot since the fall of the jedi. He's prepared to die to stop Anakin or try to get through to him.
Mace is not holding back here when confronting Vader, and I would expect nothing less considering not only Vader's betrayal of Windu right as he was about to kill Sidious, but also because of the general disdain that Windu had for Anakin prior to his fall to the Dark Side. Another great video, man! Keep up this amazing work! I look forward to each of these videos! Also, if I could make a request. Since you have been doing a lot of videos on Vader and Sidious lately, I would love to see a video of various Sith spirits confronting Sidious after he is killed and sent to Chaos (either post-Endor or post-Dark Empire). With all the warnings spirits like Bane and Plagueis have given Sidious, I think it would be amusing to have them and other Sith confront him about his failures, all while Sidious is basically humiliated. Just a suggestion though! Again, please keep up the good work, man! You really are helping to breath new life to this franchise that we all love.
"I don't need to test you. You've already failed."
*Damn*
😂😂😂😂😂.....He wasn't impressed then ...he ain't impressed now😂😂😂😂
100th like
That line alone should be a meme. xD
Failing even before starting a test...
ouch
force ghosts can be sent back into the force
WIndu comes back as a force ghost:
We still do not grant you the rank of master
Even old Obi Wan agrees, "Only a master of evil, Darth"
If he was to be a master. A master of what? He was too emotionally unstable.
The title of master is not granted it is earned. Not due to service of a cause. A master must master himself.
And Anakin was a slave of his emotions. Played like a fiddle by Sidious.
@@thijsjong technically Anakin should've been granted the rank of master after the council approved Ahsoka being promoted to knight - then none of this would have happened.
Anakin also would have been granted the rank of master had the Jedi strike team survived, or he actually completed his destiny and helped Mace defeat Sidious
😂😂😂😂
Mace Windu is dead the entire time Darth Vader existed save for the few moments after he was attacked in Palpatines office.
Vader: "I need to stop taking with dead people."
Shmi: "Hello Ani. Is time you have a chat with your mother."
Vader:".......damn."
Vader talking to Padme would be brutal
Holy shit we need that@@scipioafricanus2212
Then he hears Ahsoka... who is not dead in fact.
Leia: "Nope, that's just your diseased mind playing tricks with you." (from the comic)
Vader: ... Ok, maybe this one time.
Should do a bit of a comedic one with Jar Jar like the robot chicken episodes
Let’s be honest. Vader vs Mace is the fight all Star Wars fans want to see.
Star wars theory vader episode 2
Vader destroys mace
Coming this spring/summer 😎
Not really. Dude is dead.
@@thegamingkitchen8429i mean there was no body lol i could see Disney bringing him back
Adding a vote for Vader speaks to Padme's Ghost.
Me too
You have my vote too
+1
*+1*
That kinda already happened in Legends.
I'm considering these as official canon. They get it 100% right. Way way more than Disney could ever dream of doing
Agreed. I don’t even want to let my kids watch episodes 7-9
Mace came back to spit straight FIRE!
And was slain cuz of it.
Nah Mace was guilty for straying the order the wrong way with Yoda. If anyone’s a failure is him too.
That's what I said ...He wanted every bit of smoke 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fr!
I can see George taking a good look at this and is just flattered
Notice how in these videos, anytime anyone calls out Vader as being a slave to Palpatine, he never tries to defend him or claim that being his apprentice isn’t that bad. He knows Palpatine is an asshole lol
Sith doctrine in a nutshell.
_Become an asshole to replace the bigger asshole above you._
I mean, once Luke came along Palpatine tried to dispose of Vader because despite his bravado Vader's power is a shadow of what it could've been had he not been burned to a crisp on Mustafar.
@muigokublack6487 again, that is Legends material.
He only locked in his potential in Canon because of how deeply he hated himself and his mental state.
@@SWDude2710 Yeah and I vastly prefer EU to Disney.
@muigokublack6487 That's your fair opinion, and I respect that.
Windu: "I still don't grant you the rank of master."
Vader: "I am my own master now."
I love how these shorts hammer home the idea that Vader *isn't* separate from Anakin Skywalker like Disney Lucasfilm often tries to portray. It's literally the same guy. Anakan never went away, Vader didn't "kill" him. That's just what Anakin tells himself to try to bury the pain.
You know there is a thing like BPD right ?
Anakin FOR SURE has developed a type of dissociative disorder due to his trauma so it’s not “wrong” to portray them that way
Yep Anakin was the one who responsible for his own actions and with this short it shows Windu won the battle with words in the end he proves being right Anakin/Vader are one of the same.
@ imagine defending the Jedi Council and Windu in 2024 🫵😂. Buddy , yes, Anakin had his share of responsibility , but Windu FAILED the entire order with his dogmatic views , arrogance, self righteousness, and inability to change. He DOOMED the order as he essentially let Palpatine do whatever he wanted under his nose, because under his leadership and Yodas, they strayed the order away from what it truly was supposed to be
Indeed! Any real & genuine SW fan knows of this. It has been perfectly clear ever since the OT, especially since ROTJ. Anakin never went away, never died. If he had, Luke had spoken to no one & Anakin had never returned. Those that separate Vader & Anakin, that regard them as two different beings, they do not understand SW at all.
You cannot pretend Lucas didnt have Vader be "separate" from Anakin. For f sake, Obi-Wan didn't tell Luke what really happened to his father, he told him that VADER KILLED HIS FATHER.
"You cut my hand off, mothafucka!!"
💀
Damn. Vader really got CRUCIFIED here. Just straight COOKED.
Cooked? I see what you did there.
The truth CRUCIFIED Vader not Windu. Windu called it out as he saw it.
Vader: *Enough!*
Windu: Padme, Padme, Padme, *Padm-*
@@richardched6085 Vader: *Force Chokes the heck out of him*
@@gavintheg.o.a.t2001don’t think he would get that far. Mace is very powerful in his own right and has vappad, which means he can channel the dark side and use it against dark side users.
@@richardched6085 Yeah, but against someone who is very conflicted & has a little bit of light still inside (Anakin/Vader), that’s different. I sound like Star Wars Theory
😂😂 Vader got ROASTED. Mace spitting hotter flames than the lava of Mustafar.
I'm still not granting you the rank of master
-Mace Windu
but he is a Master.. At getting caught.
Damn bro this is exactly how Windu would say it too.
Except he wouldn't have died so easily. I think Windu could've beaten Vader tbh
@@ThePCForeverlmfao no
@@NickMartinproductionsyes
@@screechingonions2365 No
All of this content is waaaaay better than Disney Star Wars
This whole channel is basically Star Wars “What if”. So Thank you.🙏
What If... but with dialogue.
Vader had to leave to go take a seat after getting roasted that hard from Windu.
Even if alive scarred or dead as a ghost, Windu will haunt Anakin.
This is the real Skywalker story, made by fans for fans. Vader found the light through the help and hard reminders of those who knew him as Anakin.
As iconic as Vader is visually, and I hate to say this, but the more analysis of his origin story from the Prequels is revealed, it actually makes him more like a very sorry character
He was always a tragic character. The fact his strongest hatred is turned inward isn't really a dealbreaker. It speaks to how he was ultimately redeemed, because the love of his son helped him get past the self-loathing and free himself.
Bro they be getting on Vaders ass
😂
Yo everybody clowns him.. Why they mad??
@@MrRasheed7he did something stupid and cost everyone everything
Now this was a great conversation between these two characters! loved this
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Vader the merciless.
Darth Vader was a dark lord of the Sith, who was once the most feared force user in all of galactic history. He had such a strong connection to the force that everything he did wasn't just exponentially enhanced but came to him as natural as breathing.
However, this strength combined with his emotional Insecurities, bred a destructive arrogance within him.
Eventually, Vader's ambition and thirst for power led to the very thing he was afraid to lose. He's Fear led him to Slaughter the innocent in a storm of pain and anger.
His anger fueled a hatred that consumed those who he once called his friends, those how he considered his brothers, his sisters, and those Is whom he once loved in hatred.
His hatred consumed the Galaxy in darkness, it turned the peaceful Republic, into the oppressive Empire. It causes his best friend and mentor along with his apprentice to hind themselves. It caused the death of his wife. and most of all It consumed him to suffer for the last 24 years of his life.
Vader got murdered by words
Darth Vader forever haunted by the ghosts of his past until his death.
Mace Windu is right though, even if Vader believes he’s stronger, he’s actually weaker than what he could’ve been. (Quit with the likes btw ;-;)
Appreciate the heart btw! 😀
He is actually far stronger as is stated in Movies Novels.
@@gorge1365 Yes, but he could’ve been stronger than he is now, since he never reached his full potential.
@@retrowavesamurai
Vader reached his full potential in the ROTJ Movie Novel, in theory what Vader got of it was Raw Power and not everything as he needs to be Anakin Skywalker full of Balance and one with the Force, there he will be in his Real Full Potential.
@@retrowavesamurai it was almost entirely mental. His self hatred kept him rooted in the dark side, but prevented him from truly elevating
Keep bringing these videos, they are quite deep and enjoyable
Windu deserves his own series!
Vader after dying and entering the Force like Force Ghost.
Windu: Hello young Skywalker
Ani: Im very sorry to kill you Master Windu.
Windu: I accept your apology, but even then, you still wont have the rank of Master.
Some would call it reality check, I call it the hardest roast since Mustafar.
Just wanted to comment and say these are absolutely great, it’s really appreciated.
I haven’t subbed to nor watched a Star Wars UA-camr this much for a while.
“Man what a tasty burger!” Say what again” “Is what a country mother Fer?”
See, Mace mentioning Anakin’s mother probably would have been Vader’s final push towards finishing him.
Did Anakin really let his mother die in chain? If he followed the teachings to the letter would she still not have been a slave and died while Anakin was meditating with Yoda somewhere?
Vader could have pointed out that the Jedi could have gotten her out of slavery but they didn't
Good stuff as always!
Getting me hyped for Star Wars Theory's Vader episode 2
Windu coming back to roast the absolute living hell out of Anakin is so hilarious and cathartic lmao.
3:00 Vader had enough of that psychobabble bull spit
The truth? Lol
Great video, Windu had some excellent arguments for Vader.
I’d like to see Darth Vader speak to his mother’s ghost…
Vader: "You should be dead"
Mace: "I'm alive, MUTHAFUKKA!"
damn the music... It gives chills
Love these videos so much! Could you make one where Vader talks to Padme or Shimi? Maybe in a rain like setting? Again unparalleled work! 😇😇😇
Fear leads too anger
Anger leads to hate
Hate leads to suffering
That path is the dark side of the force
„The same scared boy, who let his mother die a slave" That's rich, coming from Windu, considering Anakin had to go save her in secret of the jedi, because they wouldn't do shit to help her, or other slaves
A low blow, fitting for someone as pathetically jealous as Mace, envious of a child being what he always wanted to be.
A Low Blow, fitting for someone as pathetically jealous as Mace, envious of a child being what he always wanted to be
That was a worse roasting than he got on Mustafar.
I was expecting "Hello, young SKYWANKER!"
I'm on the wrong channel for that.
“Transcended? no you fallen and worst part is you don’t even know it” that cuts deep
Ain't no way he beating Windu like that lol
It doesn't matter who wins the lightsaber fight. Vader will never live that down. Dude got cooked twice.
NGL after he brought up his mom Vader already woulda swung because them burns from windu was crazy😂😂😂
If Vader ever encountered Mace it would’ve brought back so many terrible memories of that one pivotal moment in history…..
Still would be a cool idea if Windu and Anakin talked in the afterlife after Anakin's redemption. The two of them finally burying the hatchet after discussing their faults with each other.
Reminds me of one Jedi that perhaps Vader hates most, maybe even more than Obi-Wan himself, enough to chuckle at his misery and cowardice (from his point of view) - Ferus Olin. After Olin learnt Vader was Anakin and all what he did, even to his wife Padme, a shit the Jedi was telling Vader during duels was enough to really make Sith Lord lose mind with burning fury and madness.
Again Star Wars fans do a better job with love and care to the lore. Great Job.
Windu: In the end, Skywalker, you proved what I always knew to be true. That you were someone not to be trusted. Your fate was that of a weak hearted man who let his fear and insecurities control him.
Mace knows how to roast 😂
3:05 Windu wouldn’t fall that quickly. Though Vader defeating him is plausible.
Tbh. He did not care if Vader did kill him or not. He was there to just troll and cook him again.😂
windu would be pissed after what anakin did in palpatines office
he would give him hell of a fight possibly even finishing him off via vaapad .
Two black men having a healthy conversation
Real.
Anakin has yet to gain that Soul.
1:42 what if Vader said not as hard as you fell when sidious electrocuted you out the window 😂
😂
This channel is awesome. Great job !
And how right Mace was. Anakin fought so hard to be free and make a name for himself and then as Vader allowed himself to be bound once more. He spent most of his life as a slave, first out of unfortunate circumstance and then by his own choice.
Actually, to correct the record, It's the Jedi who left the mother to die a slave, when they took the boy and sailed off in their sparkling shiny ships to their warm chambers in the Galactic capitol. Anakin's flaw is letting the outrageous oversight continue after he became an adult.
Every time Mace speaks i always picture him adding motherf$@%$# at the end
After killing Windu
Vader: Also, your career is already ruined since you’re found as a criminal for starting the Clone Wars. Anyways, i’m taking your head to the Emperor now
Some things are better left unseen and unspoken.
Damn this may be the msot brutal roast i've ever seen hahaha
Another awesome video, my friend! Keep it up! Your videos are legendary! 👏
Mace cooking Anakin like that volcano did😂
Take a seat, Young Vader.
I had this on in the background as I was trying to take a nap and all I could hear was Vader getting cooked by Mace😂😂😂
Why is Vader's ass getting so haunted lately?
HAHAHAHAHAH
Obi Wan be giving jokes while Windu here verbal abuse.
Duel of the Tongues
Imagine this on live action
Mace was giving it to him... But Vader shut that sh*t up at the end.
“I don’t need to test you, you’ve already failed.” Goes so hard
I want my hand back Skywanker! You sucka!
Id like to think that there wouldnt be much dialog between these two. Straight to business. Maybe some mid fight like obi and anakin in ROTS but thats it.
I'm getting seasick watching the camera rock back and forth.
It's annoying
Take the pill.
Im astonished to see how realistic this conversations are
And now youre failing at what you think youve become 🤯 legendary
Mace - A Star Wars Survival Story
Obi Wan: And you know what they call a... a... a Anakin Skywalker in Paris?
Mace: They don't call it a Jedi?
Obi Wan: No man, they got Cubism and Post-Impressionism. They wouldn't know what the f*** a Jedi is.
Mace: Then what do they call it?
Obi Wan: They call it a Flambé sans limbs. 🔥
Cultural exchange done. _Carry on._
Wow dude, this films are amazing.
I want to believe the sith and Jedi spirits bullied Anakin into redemption
Please do Vader talking to Padmé
Somehow Mace Windu returned...
And oh boy is he on Vader's ass like a crazy mf. Windu's roasting him harder than lava on Mustafar.
"Had you listened to me and not tried to commit murder and force the Jedi into a role darker than it already was, I'dve had no need to side with Sidious! Had you and our 'brothers and sisters' not trained us to let go of all attachments, I'dve saved my mother sooner!! And as for her, her death was my fault, and yours!!! I knew you always feared me Mace. Feared that I would be the great Jedi you never could be. But all I wanted was to protect my people, but you all looked down upon attachments. Everything that's happened thus far is no less your fault than mine. Remember that as I strike you down as I did the others!!!"
@@LarryAmakerIII That would be the last sentence Windu would ever hear from Vader before his death
Being mocked and catechised by the one master who could have helped Anakin balance dark and light. Poetic roast right there
Windu should've applied this wisdom when palpetine was slowly manipulating him and the crazy part is windu knew the dark side surrounded Palpetine and sensed Anakin was confused. Windu couldn't even balance his own common sense how the hell he's going to help Anakin 😂and he talks with too much authority and Anakin is young and don't like that
I love these but to be honest Windu has a lot of nerve telling vader he let his mother die a slave
When it was the Jedi allowing slavery to exist and the Jedi who wouldn't interfere on Shmi's behalf and prevented anakin from ever seeking her out to prevent "attachment".
The Jedi never allowed slavery to exist. They are part of the republic and Tatooine doesn't go by what the Republic says, hence why slavery is allowed there. Nobody knew she would die though. He definitely didn't allow her to die, but he did allow her death to influence him greatly and turn closer to the dark side.
@@Yabuturtle It wasn't worth it to the jedi to go free the literal "Chosen One's" mother from the literal slavery that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan left her in, because it wasn't the Jedi's place to interfere with Slavery on a planet outside the Republic's influence.
And not for at least a decade and a half would they ever send anyone back to Tatooine to change things, not the Republic, not the Jedi.
Really great people, that Jedi Order. Really great foresight in thinking that wouldn't *screw* an orphan's mind up.
That he should just "get over" his mother being left to a completely uncertain fate (which certainly wound up being her possible r*pe and torture to death at the hands of Tuskens). Nope, if Anakin was a "Real Jedi" he would've just gotten completely over her and never bothered going to find her in the first place!
Oh, and Windu's choice to bring three "jedi council members" to Palpatine's office, three of whom get wiped within seconds, instead of said, Literal, Chosen One.
Can't wait for the Amethyst Blade to come out!
Windu woke up and chose absolute facts
You made Windu logical. Doesnt track. Windu is why anakin fell. His treatment of Anakin including rejection, jealousy, arrogance, lack of support, suspicion, fear, and shortsightedness played into palps hand. Windu is the jedis failure personified.
I agree to a point... But the truth is that Mace was right about Anakin... He knew something was wrong with this kid.. lol
But his lack tolerance and failure to actually get to know Anakin made Anakin feel distant from the Jedi
mace sensed there was something iffy about anakin but chose to not to help him with his inner turmoil, with mace being closer to the dark side than most jedi he could have helped anakin the most in staying in the light but he choose to be distant and distrustful.
@@MrRasheed7 It was more than that. He always gave him the cold shoulder and was more dismissive if not frankly disparaging about Anakin. He seems to have never really even tried. Self fulfilling actions. If you create resentment, you shouldn't be surprised by it. As has been pointed out- the Jedi were failing. They failed Ahsoka, they failed Baris, and they failed Anakin. Windu embodies that failure.
@@bill7533 Yeah
I think Anakin was basically "out of control" on an emotional level. Not even Padme and Obi Wan could satisfy him emotionally. I dont think Mace bears more blame than anyone else over why Anakin turned to the dark side. Mace was the stern Jedi, He acted the same way toward the other Jedi. Alot of the blame falls on Anakin for what he became. Padme begged him.. Obi Wan tried to stop him. He is to blame for what happened.
But!!!! I do agree that Palpatine was right about the Jedi. Their arrogance did blind them, and Mace is a great example of this. He loved the republic when he should have been following the force. Yoda was rigid. Obi Wan was a brother when Anakin prolly needed a father figure.
There is a lot going on.. One thing is certain.. Its a great story and I love talking about it
I just take it. That this windu is still prideful but he's learnt alot since the fall of the jedi. He's prepared to die to stop Anakin or try to get through to him.
Jesus this needs to be in the movie theaters! 💯
Ooh! Do Vader talking with Padme! Or Shmi! That’d be epic!
Mace is not holding back here when confronting Vader, and I would expect nothing less considering not only Vader's betrayal of Windu right as he was about to kill Sidious, but also because of the general disdain that Windu had for Anakin prior to his fall to the Dark Side.
Another great video, man! Keep up this amazing work! I look forward to each of these videos!
Also, if I could make a request. Since you have been doing a lot of videos on Vader and Sidious lately, I would love to see a video of various Sith spirits confronting Sidious after he is killed and sent to Chaos (either post-Endor or post-Dark Empire). With all the warnings spirits like Bane and Plagueis have given Sidious, I think it would be amusing to have them and other Sith confront him about his failures, all while Sidious is basically humiliated. Just a suggestion though!
Again, please keep up the good work, man! You really are helping to breath new life to this franchise that we all love.
Mace Windu gave Vader a good roasting. 😂
I miss Anakin Skywalker