Thankfully I still have 3.9 installed so I decided to just go back and live on there since 3.10 has just been a nightmare for me in terms of performance. I also have a pretty good rig too with a RTX 4070, AMD 5800X3D and 32 GB of RAM, yet I'm getting some very irritating stutters and freezes that begin to just test my love for the game. I did hear that a lot of the issues stem from BSG and how their handling live EFT right now, so I don't blame the SPT Devs at all for any of this. But I do wish they'd allow for people who either deleted an earlier install of SPT or those who are struggling with performance the ability to redownload that earlier version of the game. I think that would help much of the community.
I hear ya, i had 3.9.4 and luckaly one guy from discord uploaded 3.9.8 for me so i have it now. Some people on SPT discord will yust stomp you down like there is no way of getting older version of SPT and like it is ilegal to share it or something. Like if i delated older version that worked and tried newer one that is trash i am yust supose to be stuck with trash, couse that is what they support or some bullshit.
I blame BSG for the state of live Tarkov, but the SPT team chose to release this shit version of SPT while it has massive performance problems. Nobody at BSG forced SPT to release this version.
There is a genuine demand for a performant competitor in the extraction looter shooter genre. One that hasn't been met by all the tarkovalikes that have released. BSG keep releasing updates that sour performance and, truth be told, there is less and less that modders can do without a full game rewrite as updates release. Try to simply appreciate what you've got. I updated my EFT only to find it broke my SPT and now I have neither to play...
Also, the dynamic scope resolution is broken with a lot of certain scopes. I was getting the same black flash when scoping in with the voodoo, and razer HD. I also noticed the performance was worse with the performance mod, so i uninstalled it.
Tried 3.10.5 after a longer brake and was suprisied how bad performance was, then i installed back my old 3.9.8 and oh boy this is light years batter. I only get some stutters at the beggining of the map when bots spawn after that it is smooth. With 3.10.5 you get constant stutters combined with frames down like all the time, good luck playing customs, feels like playing a slideshow game. Anyways delated 3.10.5 and am playing 3.9.8 now. Also using mods in hope to improove performance is a nono for me.
Can anybody share their own 3.9.8 installer or entire setup? i'm was having a break a while at spt then installed 3.10 but its disgusting i want to try 3.9.8
I fully 100% agree, if you mention it in the SPT discord youll be told "Its like live" or "we are trying to be as close to live as possible" shame its got worse wipe after wipe.
Dude, it's the same for me. Feels bad to have finally built an amazing PC first time in my life, to have the game dip to worse frames than I had on my old laptop. And crash, two times so far. Never had SPT crash before.
Greetings, I had this issue with frame rates from using the MOAR mod. After removing it and just using SAIN the frames are much better. Have you removed it and tested this? Also how many mods total do you have installed? The more toys will cause frame drops over time. Try removing most recent added mods and test fps. You may have to let some go because of conflict with other mods. Cheers
Frames are bad this round here also. Not on a Potato and use the performance mod. Have 144fps on 3.9.5 (my backup version) and only achieve between 45-84 fps,with lots of stuttering on 3.10.5. But I find the update more enjoyable with the new updated maps. When I get frustrated I go to 3.9.5,but then feel I'm shaming and not progressing on 3.10.5 +1 on video as always
I have 2 questions for you if I may. 1, Where is the loot. Ther loot on all of my maps seems very minimal. 2, Why are all of the crates in the Medical Base in Woods, Technical crates only. I have used Greed MOD but it doesn't seem to malke a differance.
I had similar poor performance, with a budget PC built a few years ago. I had followed some of your recommendations for graphics settings and things got worse. Went back to a different guide, made some specific changes for GPU bottle neck and am getting ~60 fps on average maps.
Your current bot configurations are driving you….in…SAIN?!?! In all seriousness 3.9.8 is the best version IMO. Wish the modders/developers would house older builds somewhere like they used to 😢
The main cause of FPS drops on Woods is the BTR. In previous spt patches it was straight up disabled, because it was causing so many issues. But now that its out, woods have become borderline unplayable. Same goes with streets I believe, a lot of the FPS drops is being contributed by the BTR unfortunately.
Greetings I message you once before I have 3.8.3 SPT. How can I update that whle keeping my progress. I still have that version but I also I have loaded 3.10.5 to give it a try (a bit buggy for me) I decided to try some mods and loaded the trades in some traders Scorpion painter and Artem. The problem is I can't 'access' Artem. In the trader screen he his behind the Character display (level cash current attitude etc.) Is there something I am missing. Thanks for any help you can give.
It's mostly because of BSG's philosophy of adding more features instead of polishing and fixing pre-existing ones. They have made NO effort to improve the performance since like 12.12, and that was mostly DLSS and mip streaming carrying the game's performance for me. I literally quit the game because the FPS is so abysmal that it is IMPOSSIBLE to play.
Performance has been an issue in almost every building on every map, RX6800, R7 5700x and 32gb of ram is not enough apparently and i dont run any mods beside FOV fixes, alp ,sain, moar, looting and questing bots. I will frequently dip from 100-50 in a firefight when i scope in and in buildings i barely touch the 30fps mark. I tried reinstalling SPT, maybe me messing with different mods was the issue but after reinstalling performance is still the same, only now the game is actually behaving even worse. Opening ingame messenger freezes the game for solid 2 minutes and clicking a message does the same. Also they keep dissapearing and reapearing, i have the same dialog 3 times. When i load into a raid, the map is empty for maybe 5 minutes, then the game tries to generate almost 50 bots at the same time even tho thats way past the map limits itself and crashes due to not enough of ram. Removing mods doesnt help, even without them SPT behaves like that. MOAR doesnt respects it's settings or the game ignores it, looting and questing bots keep disabling spawns even if they are the only mod installed because they still detect moar. I'm going on a 4th install this week. I'm starting to think i would be better off playing PVE :D
The game looks like shit, runs like shit....I have a 7800x3d, 4080ti and 64gbbof ddr5 ram and it still stutters and runs like crap. Theres no reason this game should run so bad at this point, regardless of the unity version. The gun play is the only reason to play this game and thats even getting stale. I havent played in over two months and have been really enjoying Arena breakout.
When I just built my "SPT" machine, 64gb of ddr4 3600(SPT server must w/ loads of mods), i9 12900k(big cores for cheap), 7900xt(big vram).. because I knew coming from an i7 8700k w/ 32gb and 2080ti it was already struggling.. you really need to upgrade man.. dont forget your running a server just so you can play tarkov which wasn't really the best optimized game to begin with.
some of the mods could be colliding with each other.. i had this problem if it isn’t your mods i highly suggest editing the game settings and also applying new DLSS 4 through nvidia it helped me alot with fps
They have no incentive to fix perfromance as long as people keep playing. Unfortunately gamers will never organize because they are addicted to the game and are willing to pay tons of money for a high end cpu and ram to run the game. At this point they know they can get away with being completely unoptimized so why would they evr chnage that?
Unity engine in general isn't great, but EFT is horribly un-optimized on top of that. SPT dev's can't fix that. Remove Performance Improvements mod to improve performance. Hosting the server on a separate PC helps. It's all still very dependent on your CPU. My specs: Ryzen 5700X, RX 6800 XT, 64 GB Ram. BotCap 15. Averaging 45-75 FPS on most maps, 25-55 on Streets. Fluctuates a lot depending on bots/bosses.
You need to host a dedicated server. I use it with the SPT Fika Co-op mod, allowing me to play with friends while maintaining good FPS since the server runs on a separate machine. It works really well. Here's a tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/3NG2O7dU8Fk/v-deo.htmlsi=5zDDohne0lm5N_3E You'll need to set up port forwarding and use a service like NoIP to track your IP, as my ISP (in Germany) changes it every 24 hours.
Yep its bad,but even live tarkov run like shit now,i disabled all bot related mods and its ok for me ryzen 7 3800x,Rx6750xt,32gb,Moar descrease about 20%performance,but sain oh boy with sain even on performance i drop from 85-110fps to like 50 on every map so no thanks playing without any bot mods and im fine
I haven't played SPT for awhile now because of the slow decline of performance, but I heard that since you're technically ' local hosting ' your own server to play SPT, that could be the crime of performance issues. We just didn't see it because EFT as a whole wasn't growing in content up until recently. There's a Reddit post somewhere that you need at least 32 GB of RAM (with good reading speed) to play EFT nowadays. As a reminder, this is for playing through Live Tarkov, so you might need more if you're playing SPT. If you're hard set on sticking to 16 GB of RAM, then... I think just trying to reroll back to 3.9 or less might be your nuclear option since I think the BTR's are disabled at that time?
Yeah 16gb isn't enough, I think he only has 6gb of vram too so his setup just isn't good enough to run the game properly. I've got 32gb RAM, 5800x3d and 8gb of vram (3070) and the performance is still trash, fps drops and stutters (on live and spt). I'm gonna pick up a 4070 super (16gb vram) soon and upgrade to 64gb ram, but I still expect frame drops and stutters in tarkov and spt. BSG need to start over, I hope they build the next game with optimisation in mind right from the start this time.
i hate to say this but you prob need to upgrade your specs my 2080 with 8 gbs is already struggling i cant imagin your 2060 with 6 keeping up same thing with you ddr4 ram and cpu its not bad specs honestly there really close with mine currently (im making a new pc in a month) but there getting old and dated tarkov eats vram cpu and ram if you do take it into consideration heres a good baseline [a new gpu] one with better vram (Nvidia is hard for cheaper cards cause they skimp out on the vram) [ddr5 ram] i suggest either keep the 16gb but upgrade to ddr5 sticks or what i would do its just get 32 gb of ddr5 cause tarkov eats that shit up [new cpu] this one is by far the most important one cause tarkov is very cpu dependent and this is most peoples bottlenecks including my own cpus do get pricy but it is worth it
@ not really, after turning off “adjust cursor speed” the latency feels better, It’s better than nothing that boost significant for maps like streets (I usually got 70-80 fps on most maps but only 49-60 on streets) therefore I only use it on streets a works fine Here’s my spec for ref I7 14 gen with 4060ti 6GB Installed on SSD,32 gb ram
Thankfully I still have 3.9 installed so I decided to just go back and live on there since 3.10 has just been a nightmare for me in terms of performance. I also have a pretty good rig too with a RTX 4070, AMD 5800X3D and 32 GB of RAM, yet I'm getting some very irritating stutters and freezes that begin to just test my love for the game.
I did hear that a lot of the issues stem from BSG and how their handling live EFT right now, so I don't blame the SPT Devs at all for any of this. But I do wish they'd allow for people who either deleted an earlier install of SPT or those who are struggling with performance the ability to redownload that earlier version of the game. I think that would help much of the community.
I hear ya, i had 3.9.4 and luckaly one guy from discord uploaded 3.9.8 for me so i have it now. Some people on SPT discord will yust stomp you down like there is no way of getting older version of SPT and like it is ilegal to share it or something. Like if i delated older version that worked and tried newer one that is trash i am yust supose to be stuck with trash, couse that is what they support or some bullshit.
@@pero9361 Can you share 3.9.8 with me
@@cnrgks i could but i first have to upload it somewhere.
@@cnrgks what is your discord?
I blame BSG for the state of live Tarkov, but the SPT team chose to release this shit version of SPT while it has massive performance problems. Nobody at BSG forced SPT to release this version.
The frequent black stomach is probably due to the SAIN setting "Always Aim Center Mass Global" in the Aiming tab
There is a genuine demand for a performant competitor in the extraction looter shooter genre. One that hasn't been met by all the tarkovalikes that have released. BSG keep releasing updates that sour performance and, truth be told, there is less and less that modders can do without a full game rewrite as updates release. Try to simply appreciate what you've got. I updated my EFT only to find it broke my SPT and now I have neither to play...
How about Stalker (2)?
@@gjdriessen1That game runs even worse because it’s on UE5
ABI
Road to Vostok is an ok alternative to spt
I@@brawler5760it actually runs alot better
Also, the dynamic scope resolution is broken with a lot of certain scopes. I was getting the same black flash when scoping in with the voodoo, and razer HD. I also noticed the performance was worse with the performance mod, so i uninstalled it.
Tried 3.10.5 after a longer brake and was suprisied how bad performance was, then i installed back my old 3.9.8 and oh boy this is light years batter. I only get some stutters at the beggining of the map when bots spawn after that it is smooth. With 3.10.5 you get constant stutters combined with frames down like all the time, good luck playing customs, feels like playing a slideshow game. Anyways delated 3.10.5 and am playing 3.9.8 now. Also using mods in hope to improove performance is a nono for me.
Can anybody share their own 3.9.8 installer or entire setup? i'm was having a break a while at spt then installed 3.10 but its disgusting i want to try 3.9.8
Run Fika with Dedicated server on another pc, really improves performance.
Easy to say
do you get streets to playable (above 60fps state) ?
yes, everyone has a spare pc.
@@lionz0rwell I do
@@lionz0r tbf a lot of ppl have a laptop of some sort laying around, its a reasonable tip that some may not have considered.
I fully 100% agree, if you mention it in the SPT discord youll be told "Its like live" or "we are trying to be as close to live as possible" shame its got worse wipe after wipe.
Dude, it's the same for me. Feels bad to have finally built an amazing PC first time in my life, to have the game dip to worse frames than I had on my old laptop.
And crash, two times so far. Never had SPT crash before.
lossless scaling helps a lot
Greetings, I had this issue with frame rates from using the MOAR mod. After removing it and just using SAIN the frames are much better. Have you removed it and tested this? Also how many mods total do you have installed? The more toys will cause frame drops over time. Try removing most recent added mods and test fps. You may have to let some go because of conflict with other mods. Cheers
Yoo it’s k3llogg
I have to test I’m playing with 90 mods 😅
Yea me too, I removed moar and questing bots and now its great.
Frames are bad this round here also. Not on a Potato and use the performance mod. Have 144fps on 3.9.5 (my backup version) and only achieve between 45-84 fps,with lots of stuttering on 3.10.5. But I find the update more enjoyable with the new updated maps. When I get frustrated I go to 3.9.5,but then feel I'm shaming and not progressing on 3.10.5
+1 on video as always
Lol I'm so used to playing around 40 fps, i thought this was the norm.
I have 2 questions for you if I may.
1, Where is the loot. Ther loot on all of my maps seems very minimal.
2, Why are all of the crates in the Medical Base in Woods, Technical crates only.
I have used Greed MOD but it doesn't seem to malke a differance.
I had similar poor performance, with a budget PC built a few years ago. I had followed some of your recommendations for graphics settings and things got worse. Went back to a different guide, made some specific changes for GPU bottle neck and am getting ~60 fps on average maps.
In my case, performance improvement had the opposite effect
in my case performance improvements crash my game hahaha
same, I have much better performance without it
They added drm that keeps checking if your tarkov version is legit and removes your weapon if you're playing on a pirated version.
Your current bot configurations are driving you….in…SAIN?!?!
In all seriousness 3.9.8 is the best version IMO. Wish the modders/developers would house older builds somewhere like they used to 😢
The main cause of FPS drops on Woods is the BTR. In previous spt patches it was straight up disabled, because it was causing so many issues. But now that its out, woods have become borderline unplayable. Same goes with streets I believe, a lot of the FPS drops is being contributed by the BTR unfortunately.
The btr is active in 3.9.8 and my fos is a straight 60fps with a rtx 3050 ti and r5 5600h lab so
This. BTR eats way too much FPS
Have you looked at lossless scaling, its the only way i can get decent frames, but even with that streets is a huge mess
Greetings I message you once before
I have 3.8.3 SPT. How can I update that whle keeping my progress.
I still have that version but I also I have loaded 3.10.5 to give it a try (a bit buggy for me)
I decided to try some mods and loaded the trades in some traders Scorpion painter and Artem. The problem is I can't 'access' Artem. In the trader screen he his behind the Character display (level cash current attitude etc.) Is there something I am missing.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Enable trader menu in options or trader scrolling mod
@@Yuengification Trader menu wont let me get to Artem. Do you happen to know the name of a trader scrolling mod. Thanks for you help.
Found one thanks
It's mostly because of BSG's philosophy of adding more features instead of polishing and fixing pre-existing ones. They have made NO effort to improve the performance since like 12.12, and that was mostly DLSS and mip streaming carrying the game's performance for me.
I literally quit the game because the FPS is so abysmal that it is IMPOSSIBLE to play.
Performance has been an issue in almost every building on every map, RX6800, R7 5700x and 32gb of ram is not enough apparently and i dont run any mods beside FOV fixes, alp ,sain, moar, looting and questing bots. I will frequently dip from 100-50 in a firefight when i scope in and in buildings i barely touch the 30fps mark. I tried reinstalling SPT, maybe me messing with different mods was the issue but after reinstalling performance is still the same, only now the game is actually behaving even worse. Opening ingame messenger freezes the game for solid 2 minutes and clicking a message does the same. Also they keep dissapearing and reapearing, i have the same dialog 3 times. When i load into a raid, the map is empty for maybe 5 minutes, then the game tries to generate almost 50 bots at the same time even tho thats way past the map limits itself and crashes due to not enough of ram. Removing mods doesnt help, even without them SPT behaves like that. MOAR doesnt respects it's settings or the game ignores it, looting and questing bots keep disabling spawns even if they are the only mod installed because they still detect moar. I'm going on a 4th install this week. I'm starting to think i would be better off playing PVE :D
The game looks like shit, runs like shit....I have a 7800x3d, 4080ti and 64gbbof ddr5 ram and it still stutters and runs like crap. Theres no reason this game should run so bad at this point, regardless of the unity version. The gun play is the only reason to play this game and thats even getting stale. I havent played in over two months and have been really enjoying Arena breakout.
4080ti?
Arena is way too linear for me.
@@Dibbs. 5080 ;)
When I just built my "SPT" machine, 64gb of ddr4 3600(SPT server must w/ loads of mods), i9 12900k(big cores for cheap), 7900xt(big vram).. because I knew coming from an i7 8700k w/ 32gb and 2080ti it was already struggling.. you really need to upgrade man.. dont forget your running a server just so you can play tarkov which wasn't really the best optimized game to begin with.
3.6.1 -3.7.1 was best perfomance
3.5.8 тоже
In your performance list boot config, the multithread rendering shouldn't be turned off. Optin to forcing DWM async compute instead.
EFT has multithreading?
some of the mods could be colliding with each other.. i had this problem if it isn’t your mods i highly suggest editing the game settings and also applying new DLSS 4 through nvidia it helped me alot with fps
They have no incentive to fix perfromance as long as people keep playing. Unfortunately gamers will never organize because they are addicted to the game and are willing to pay tons of money for a high end cpu and ram to run the game. At this point they know they can get away with being completely unoptimized so why would they evr chnage that?
how much fps would I get if I had a 7800x3d with these mods?
what FPS do you get when you turn off bots? If it's still low then something is up with your install
It is unplayable, I'm not sure what they are doing. They should roll back to 3.9.
Unity engine in general isn't great, but EFT is horribly un-optimized on top of that. SPT dev's can't fix that. Remove Performance Improvements mod to improve performance. Hosting the server on a separate PC helps. It's all still very dependent on your CPU. My specs: Ryzen 5700X, RX 6800 XT, 64 GB Ram. BotCap 15. Averaging 45-75 FPS on most maps, 25-55 on Streets. Fluctuates a lot depending on bots/bosses.
They added drm that keeps checking if your tarkov version is legit on top of all that
Its why ive stopped playing SPT too. Performance is just ass
Tarkov in general has gone to muck when it comes to performance, retail and spt both. It's absolutely miserable.
which cpu?
I want 3.9.8 back PLEASE spt devs turn on the download link... :(
They added drm that keeps checking if your tarkov version is legit which eats up its own chunk of performance
I think u would be really into Stalker modding
yes perfomance in deep i use LLS it s help but ints not must be
are u using dlss?
should try lossless scaling.
Moar has some problems I believe
nothing new, there is no point at jumping at the next version without waiting few months before all mods and fix are done.
4090 7800x3d 64gb of ddr5. Frames suck
Use lossless scaling, it helps a lot for me
that's why im still playing 3.7.1 😁
i dont remember 3.7 being that good either. Does it perform better than 3.10?
@KingLich451 im not sure i havent actually tried 3.10 but im getting around 70-80 fps when i play
i’ve switched to nvidia dlss 4 and my game runs a lot better tbh
You need to host a dedicated server. I use it with the SPT Fika Co-op mod, allowing me to play with friends while maintaining good FPS since the server runs on a separate machine. It works really well.
Here's a tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/3NG2O7dU8Fk/v-deo.htmlsi=5zDDohne0lm5N_3E
You'll need to set up port forwarding and use a service like NoIP to track your IP, as my ISP (in Germany) changes it every 24 hours.
Brother its not the game it self its a Driver update 3.10 something i think is broken go back to a older video Driver and it should be back to normal.
Yep its bad,but even live tarkov run like shit now,i disabled all bot related mods and its ok for me ryzen 7 3800x,Rx6750xt,32gb,Moar descrease about 20%performance,but sain oh boy with sain even on performance i drop from 85-110fps to like 50 on every map so no thanks playing without any bot mods and im fine
I haven't played SPT for awhile now because of the slow decline of performance, but I heard that since you're technically ' local hosting ' your own server to play SPT, that could be the crime of performance issues. We just didn't see it because EFT as a whole wasn't growing in content up until recently.
There's a Reddit post somewhere that you need at least 32 GB of RAM (with good reading speed) to play EFT nowadays. As a reminder, this is for playing through Live Tarkov, so you might need more if you're playing SPT. If you're hard set on sticking to 16 GB of RAM, then... I think just trying to reroll back to 3.9 or less might be your nuclear option since I think the BTR's are disabled at that time?
Yeah 16gb isn't enough, I think he only has 6gb of vram too so his setup just isn't good enough to run the game properly. I've got 32gb RAM, 5800x3d and 8gb of vram (3070) and the performance is still trash, fps drops and stutters (on live and spt). I'm gonna pick up a 4070 super (16gb vram) soon and upgrade to 64gb ram, but I still expect frame drops and stutters in tarkov and spt. BSG need to start over, I hope they build the next game with optimisation in mind right from the start this time.
add on top of all that the fact that they added drm that constantly checks if your tarkov version is legit.
@@hardwatergaming7965 4070 Super is 12GB VRAM, 4070 TI Super is 16GB.
Yeah im gonna downgrade. Unplayable
i hate to say this but you prob need to upgrade your specs my 2080 with 8 gbs is already struggling i cant imagin your 2060 with 6 keeping up
same thing with you ddr4 ram and cpu its not bad specs honestly there really close with mine currently (im making a new pc in a month) but there getting old and dated tarkov eats vram cpu and ram
if you do take it into consideration heres a good baseline
[a new gpu] one with better vram (Nvidia is hard for cheaper cards cause they skimp out on the vram)
[ddr5 ram] i suggest either keep the 16gb but upgrade to ddr5 sticks or what i would do its just get 32 gb of ddr5 cause tarkov eats that shit up
[new cpu] this one is by far the most important one cause tarkov is very cpu dependent and this is most peoples bottlenecks including my own cpus do get pricy but it is worth it
looseless scaling could be helping
Not good for a fps game like Tarkov, the latency will make it feel really bad
@ not really, after turning off “adjust cursor speed” the latency feels better,
It’s better than nothing that boost significant for maps like streets
(I usually got 70-80 fps on most maps but only 49-60 on streets) therefore I only use it on streets a works fine
Here’s my spec for ref
I7 14 gen with 4060ti 6GB
Installed on SSD,32 gb ram
booohoo im modding the fuck out of a game that barely works and now its unplayable