Soundcraft Ui24R Digital Mixing & Recording System - Andertons Music Co.
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Drinking game alert!! Take a swig for every, ‘absolutely’. I’m 12 minutes in and I’m crushed!!! 🥃🥃
Just got the unit after a six month wait. By far the most comprehensible digital mixer on the market. Takes some time to get to know the navigation of the software, however, once you are comfortable with the interface, you are able to unlock all of the premium features this product offers.
I`m sold - getting one next week - good on ya - what a great review guys !!!
Thanks a lot guys, very helpful even almost 5 years later !
Wow! Thanks for this awesome presentation guys! We just bought ours today! Cheers!!
Thanks guys. This demo video sold me on the Ui24R.
Absolutely brilliant - was just looking at some AKG radio mics and saw where they mentioned that it would talk to the Ui24R... so wondered "Whats that?"... glad I looked!
Great video...mates just bought one for our band, exactly what we needed ...thank you soundcraft for actually caring about our needs and stacking so much into this unit (no dodgy app...brilliant!)
Came across this in my research and the reviews i read - virtually every comment - said the wifi connection keeps dropping and they should have used bluetooth - how are you getting on with it ? I was reading the review of the 1010 music bluebox and this was mentioned as being higher spec . Hope it's working for you !
@@twiglet2214 Bluetooth would have terrible range and is also not suited to run a web interface over. The guy says that it is possible to connect it to another access point so that's what would be the best thing to do, connect a decent access point to the utp port, or it may even be possible to connect the mixer to an existing network. You will most likely need to do some setup in the network configuration of the mixer.
@@zenddoor Ok thanks for sharing that Bramberry.
Elliot was one of the reasons that I purchased the Cranborne ADAT Lunch box and the Camden 500 pre amps... didn’t know he was with Soundcraft
Great video and review!
I will get one this month. Thank you!
Muito bom...acabei de adquirir uma aqui no Brasil e o vídeo de vocês foi bem útil!
Absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely and so on!!!!!!Absolutely brilliant!!!! Yes absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely and I lost count. Thank you MR ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!
Absolutely fine so thanks for absolutely pointing out absolutely clearly the absolutely fantastic use of the phrase absolutely which was absolutely necessary but not necessarilly absolute,if you see what i mean and could therefore,by necessity,be deemed as absolutely unnecessary,if that makes sense ? Ok,now we can get on with the rest of our lives,absolutely.
Great explanation and demo. very helpful! and thanks!
thanks for the great review
I am looking forward to start working with this one. Getting a home studio together and this video sold me this interface to be the heart of it. Plus, its already sitting in a rack and bam - this is a mobile studio also... How cool is that.
Did you end up using this as an audio interface for your home studio? If so how did it go? I’m thinking of doing the same but know that these kinds of consoles are more oriented towards live stuff so im slightly worried about the quality of the mic pres.
@@tuckercoughlin5238 well, first of all let me explain why:
I recorded our first album with macpro, an old digidesign 002 rack unit and borrowed an old m-audio for 8 more mic pres via Adat. We love to record all at the same time ( together in a live room) so we need lots of inputs. It worked great, but old units equals old drivers. So after that I decided to start looking for a better solution..and looking for updated drivers to install later is a nightmare. My choices at the time were: expensive soundcards with fewer inputs adding adat extra inputs (and prices go up for preamp quality) or OK soundcards with ok prosumer preamps.
Basically for reasonable mic pre quality and quantity of pres i was looking at units like bigger focusrite and OK pres. But budget solutions are always oh well.. budget and there's the installers things again.
As I was about to replace my laptop and enter the M1 apple..more difficult the task would be for used gear and updates..
Surfing the web a lot, reading lots of reviews I came across this vídeo here:
ua-cam.com/video/MRtH1hhDgE4/v-deo.htmlsi=ZHN4CuRczPW0JZDV
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and that changed it all for me.
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Then looked for presonus, Midas units 16 great designed mic inputs and.. there came the drive upgrade thing again around the corner.
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came across this soundcraft when I was looking for a used midas during covid..and found out that for the sondcraft there's no driver needed, just a web browser. the preamps are Studer designed, so no corner is cut there.. it's basically a big and extremely expensive desk without physical faders..and 24 of them with dedicated aux outs for any type of monitoring, records every track full quality to a pen drive at the same time you do on your computer... so redundant recording is a safety net. And of course by nature it's portable for live, so its portable and sturdy enough for recording at home or anywhere you need.
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I did some small recordings and the sound is superb, but I'm about to do a bigger session January/February and going to need between 16 to 18 tracks going in at the same time.
Just coming around to getting one of these now. Was about to quit the video as it was wrapping up and then in the dying seconds the information I really needed - Aux 10 & 11 routable to headphone outputs! So possible to have 5 stereo in-ear mixes on auxes!
After much research deciding on which digital rack mixer to purchase, I got the Ui24. Absolutely!
That's my final decision as well sir
How the result, expirance ?
@@sounddecoration3705 Loved it! I ended up only having an initial use for it for about a year, sold it, and now looking to get another. Only complaint is the wifi. Used a router, then no problems.
@@Kyle7K thanks
After 2 years with the competent but limited RCF M18 I traded up to the XR18, after 5 minutes I realized you need a computer to record and even playback from the single USB "Doghouse" slot, not good for a function band we need playback on USB for convenience I don't want to carry a laptop around to gigs. Brought the XR18 back for the UI24 the next day. Virtual Soundcheck so I don't need the band to hang around and
Multi-ttack record direct from USB stick so I can mix it afterwards and add it to our promo videos . Twice the price of both other systems and bigger in size and weight and more channels than I need but what a package. I started off on a relatively huge 8 channel Soundcraft powered mixer 20+ years ago, what a leap in tech and convenience, no more sticky with alcohol stage looms, everything from a laptop and USB. Well done Soundcraft please offer the same functionality (multitrack from USB) on the UI16 aswell.
Wow great video. I just want to find out how to send effects to aux mixes. Secondly , is there anything like digital patching where one can play around sound sources and destinations? God bless you big sirs
Thanks for the review, But I want to know can we use an external Fx or Dynamic processor as insert for any I/O and can we use side chain processing in case some sound need to duck on this console??
Good overview ... even if I saw it 4 years later ;-)
Did the software change a lot through all these updates in these last 4 years?
Much love 💕
Matthias 👋
Great video. Just bought one.
One thing not covered in this video that I’m interested in finding out about. I heard that you can somehow run third party plugins through it too.
Anyone know more about that?
Time to bring out a hardware interface with motorised faders etc. it will bridge the gap for the guys who don't like mixing in a screen. I will place my order now :)
On channels 1&2 if you are using the inputs for guitar or bass. Is it ok to plug the guitar or bass in after their pedals so guitar , pedal board ui24r??
Am having massive problems trying to record with this on garageband. i can select the inputs i am using on the soundcraft on garageband but then am not receiving any signal?
Great video chaps.
Would like to see some demo video's of recording software. Simple setup and use.
I have got a Presonus Audio Box and it came with Studio One. It would be great to see some tips and tricks
What is the maximum recording sample rate of its DSP when I use it with a DAW? Can it be 96 kHz or only 48 kHz?
Have the reported problems such as: (visible) random noise on certain channels, and, loss of connection, and/or not being able to connect to an interphase; with the Soundcraft Ui range been ironed-out as yet?
Hi, Is there anyone can explain how to play the track from the laptop without connecting a physical usb cable to the mixer ?
Two questions question one can you switch on the EQ on and switch it off second question will it handle on the recording side of the SSD drive
Can you use this to get a soundcraft gb8 into a Mac.
How many gig stick can you put in to record all 20 tracks Live 2 hour show?
Just wondering if I can still use my iPad or phone with internet if I’m hooked up to this thing???
Network access seems to be only for control, not for audio routing which can only be via usb.
So not network breakout boxes apart from using a second unit.
Can you, or have you detailed DAW interface with this great unit? Or can you send me somewhere? Thanks
Can it be using without tab or laptop like any other mixers?
What kind of touchscreen would you recommend?
When you record to USB, does it record with or without any effects/processing? Is it possible to choose one way or the other?
Are all ui models enabled with the same updated WiFi system as this ui24?
Still kind of mystified by how the AFS outputs work,particularly if this feature is also available on main mix. Anyone? 🤔 ✌️
Tenho essa Adam A7 vou tentar adquirir mais uma!
Can I EQ the main outs with pink noise?
Just bought the Soundcraft MTK22 for myself thinking it would really step up the sound at shows, which it will. But then I stop and consider the cable runs with snakes and that only half the places we play will let me setup a decent mix position...now I'm looking at this and my gear sickness is just getting worse lol I dont want to give up my analog board but I also hate being side stage and trying to maintain the mix. So I say to you Soundcraft, shut up and take my money. You had me at wireless multitrack rackmount console replacement.
Yeah, hell, I bought the MTK-12 several months back and want to upgrade to more tracks. I remember loving this when it was announced and think I will just get this Ui24R instead. I Love having an actual board, though, but this would offer More and use less space
With the patching feature is it possible to plug an electric guitar direct into channel 8 for example and then patch it to channel 1/2 to access the digitech effects? Or is the hi-z feature specific to the hardware in channels 1 & 2? I’m looking at doing an installation where the Ui would live in a closet with a snake running under the floor from recessed stage boxes and was wondering if I’d have the flexibility to plug in a guitar from any input on stage and patch it to 1 of those 2 channels.
Yes, the patching option is available ONLY on the UI24. You can patch any channel to access the Digitech effects on 1/2
what sample rates are supported
Can I get snapshot for live concert
Great mixers and great vid! I've got the ui 16 mixer. Can I record straight to a laptop as I don't have a USB B connection port? or is it just to usb stick and then transfer it over?
you connect the SC to your computer through the usb port and select the channel/s you want to listen to in your daw, im guessing you have some kind of digital input to your computer or you can use the outputs from the SC either xlr or the headphones and then line it in to your mic input if you are all out of digital inputs in your computer ;) if you don't have a DAW you can download the Cakewalk by bandlab for free from their website. The usb port types is for speed and they usually are backwards compatible ....
Can it do multi-track recording to DAW with the internal mixer's processors (EQ,Dynamic, etc.)?
You get 32 outputs to a DAW, which does all of the inputs and the outputs, doesn't do channels specifically unfortunately. You can always just record the master output though or use the aux sends to record the aux outputs with the internal processing on it.
hi, i'm curious how is the latency as an interface? i would want to use this live and also be running ableton triggering drum samples, so latency is a serious factor for me.
I don't have one but have been watching demo videos and a read flattering SOS article. If you a generating beats the speed of your computer is critical and has nothing to do with the audio input latency of this unit. In fact if you are recording audio you can get away using a slower computer because it has Excellent built in dsp effects which of course do not need to be processed by your computer. You can also plug in an HDMI touchscreen and control the effects in real time and such in addition to your computer. The browser enabled interface is also fast and easy and can be used by multiple users.
If you're not using a wi-fi hotspot and your internet only comes from an IP, than how is the Ui24R found as an input. It wouldn't be under wi-fi if you don't have external wi-fi.
old video.. but.. does anyone know if you can do direct monitoring while recording AND have effects added to the monitor signal only.. with no latency?.. like UAD soundcards can ?
You can send effects and EQs to any AUX channel for your monitor
It's a good unit. However, they did forget one thing which is somewhat basic, and pretty annoying not to have - a shelf mode for EQ bands 1 and 4. You can't have shelf controls for the bass and treble unless you go into the super-limited "simple EQ" mode, and that is just too bad. That can be very helpful and I'd strongly suggest soundcraft to add it via firmware update. Otherwise, out of the four consoles of this type that I've tried (the others being behringer/midas, mackie and allen & heath) this is definitely the most full-featured, intuitive and best sounding imo.
I've got the ui16 and it has a HPF and LPF without being on "easy EQ". That also leaves it so you don't need to use your other EQ points for shelving
I´m definately getting one soon. Is there anyway you can trigger the effects on a footswitch or something like that? As a vocalist it would be nice to be able to use the delay effects only when needed during a song. So I would be able to turn off and on the delay or chorus effects during the song.
Footswitch is ok with this, works like a clock.
10 minutes and the GAS was massive...
What about adjusting In-Ear monitoring by musicians? Is there a separate view for musicians? Or can musicians then mess with the general mix? :)
Any device can have access to any feature on the UI24R but, there are user access limits that can also be set up per device meaning, the drummer for example, can have access to his monitor mix but no other features of the device whilst the guitarist perhaps might have access to all monitor mixes but not the input gains leaving the FOH guy to have full access to all functions. Furthermore there is a mode called MORE ME (worth the price of entry if you ask me) and this gives a very simple view where the balance between your instruments vs the rest of the mix can be very quickly adjusted (once the whole mix has been set up) via a sort of cross fade type set up. I would recommend going to the Soundcraft website where the software is hosted from their page and you can have a good look at how the unit works.
Awesome! Thanks for the quick summary!
Tim Robertson we bough ours, we are all in-ear, 7 musicians, it is our big concerns as well.... limited acces, wish having more information on that topic thank you!
Yeah it's a very good question. I need to get info on this. I'm planning to buy one. Thanks for bringing it up sir
For recording, will it work with ProTools or Logic?
Works with both. You can assign the inputs and outputs
Hi Guy`s, I have a question, Dose this unit have a Feedback Control , Thank you
Yes, it came with DBX ABS control
Great mixer, tried it out last night. We have one problem though. One bandmember runs wired inears from one of the aux send which is XLR. The XLR is adapted to a 3.5mm minijack female in which his headphones goes. The problem is, that the sound is only in one of his ears, unless the inears is pulled halfway out of the female minijack cable, then its stereo. Is it a wrong adapter we're using or do you have to activate stereo aux send on the console?
Wrong adapter, probably should be using a headphone amp.
@@RossV74 And amp shouldnt be neccesary, the signal is loud and clear, just in one ear. An adapter yes, but which?
Jonas Andersen TRS adapter
If you're running it off one xlr you are sending a mono signal to something that's expecting stereo. If you use a small headphone Amp, it will configure it to mono, if you want stereo you will need to use 2 XLR's and a headphone Amp capable of doing that.
I use a behringer P2 headphone amp. Open it up and there is a switch from stereo to mono. Turn to mono and it will send the mono signal to both ears. The AUX outs on soundcraft are mono. For stereo you have to use 2 AUXs and pair and pan them accordingly. These units don't have enough AUXs for a full band to run in stereo.
Nice run down, but in reality there are some glitches for eg the 2.4 g wifi crashes and not recoverable without restarting the mixer when someone uses another 2.4 g receiver like a wireless guitar dongle.
Also when attempting to use 2 UI24R mixers to get more tracks they claim you can control both from one device via cascading, but that only works by switching between 2 views... So doesn't really help at all. And.. you still have to use 2 channels on the host mixer to bring in the audio from the remote mixer... I wanted to have the remote mixer brought in as if the mixer was now 40 channels... So to have for examples mute groups across some channels on each mixer... That being said..it's still pretty good...
Does the usb have to be formatted to Dos Fat or not ?
I formatted mine as NTFS, works just fine with either FAT/NTFS
Is usb multitrack recording is raw or recorded with onboard effects? Can we have dry signal and processed signal recorded separately into usb?
It records right after the mic pre so you the raw recording. But you can record the main mix out with all the FX as a stereo track. And you can record the multitrack and the stereo out at the same time.
Andres Sanchez thank you!
Can we capture dry multitrack into logic and mix,then stream live concert separately from Ui24r mix ?
@@dadsonraj8665 yes you can
so what happens if your laptop runs out of battery? Would the settings remain the same, would it change the sound live? Also this may be a stupid question, but you can save different presets and load them live right?
I imagine you have a mobile phone or tablet? You would simply use an internet browser connected via the IP address of the UI24R with your phone or tablet. There is your back up control.
You don't need to be connected for it to work. If the WiFi drops out while playing it doesn't affect it as the setting are already set, this is an analog board. If the battery dies on the computer you can keep playing but can't change any settings, which most bands that have dedicated sound guy would flip over. I keep my power supply near the cpu so this isn't an issue.
@@neilsnow7644 thanks. Yeh I been using it for a while now and I got the jist of it. Really its an analog board? I thought it was digital... which freaks me out because in my mind more can go wrong with digital.
@@SkyLukewater it's more like a hybrid. But the way it was explained to me was that it's digital in how it operates, but analog as far as inputs and gain structure. I have an old Yamaha digital console and you have to load every power-up each individual setting...ie. gain and routing, eq etc. The soundcraft is more like analog in that you can set it up and that's it. Maybe some tweaks for each show but that's it. Much simpler but less flexible as far as routing.
@@SkyLukewater I was bummed about the HDMI on the ui16 being unusable, and no multi-track recording. I figured they would have fixed that by now. Sooo...I got an HDMI port that is just for looks lol
Hi do you know how to turn on Phantom power for Mic etc.
UI
Go into your Gain controller settings for the MIC channel and turn on phantom power
Hi Anderton's - I was wondering if this is purely for live mixing or can it be used for recording to a DAW (Logic) - do we need to use the web browser mixer thing?
I use my ui24r as a multichannel recording interface in FL Studio on my MacBook Pro without any problems.
Maybe Andertons should have moved the huge illuminated Universal Audio sign for this particular segment.
They have every right to do that. You've ended up with a free appraisal of this unit which has been done very well I must say. You're sitting there, enjoying this without having to pay a penny. They ( Andertons ) on the other hand have had to fork out quite a few bucks to bring this to you and others. There's no such thing as a free lunch in life - get used to it.
Is there eq presets for different instruments ?
Yes, every channel can be set independently
How do you connect your monitors?
Using the AUX outputs and EQ them to your preference
It requires an amplifier ? Or it is built in ?
It's just a mixer and needs an external amplifier
is this working connected to your device without internet? or do you really need an internet connection before you can operate to your device? TIA
No need for internet service, the built-in wifi access point creates a private network. You'd use a laptop or mobile device connected to that wifi network. You can also connect a laptop directly with an Ethernet cable, or use a mouse and an HDMI monitor without any computer or mobile device at all. You could also connect a USB touch monitor and avoid the mouse. Soundcraft does make a disclaimer that the response of the UI on the HDMI output may slow down a bit when recording, or doing other undefined tasks. In short, if the mixer is working hard, the HDMI output may suffer a bit of lag. Here's what the manual says: "HDMI Connector
Supports HDMI Video standard
Complete Mixer Web Interface is displayed on HDMI screen. Please note if using DVI and VGA adaptors
they must be active. Performance will depend on other concurrent functions which are being used in the
mixer. (eg. while recording to USB MTK stick you may see a slow down in screen update)"
Wifi and internet are not the same. Wifi is only a transporter of an internet connection from a modem. In short the answer is No. You can connect to wifi from a device where the wifi is not connected to the internet. This is how you set up a router to work with a modem to get the internet working in the first place.
@@lancepage1914 i am a bit confused , i know the mixer is controlled by wifi , but do you have the internet to download the mixer interface every time you use it ? or can you store it on your ipad like an app ?
@@waxcactu you only have to download the app once and install it on iPad, you need the internet to do that. Once you have the app installed on iPad you can control the mixer via the mixers in built wifi. This will work regardless of your wifi being connected to the internet.
@@lancepage1914 thanks , i did download an app from the app store , just didn't understand why every body is saying you have to download it from a specific website
Great video - I watched the entire thing as I found it so interesting, Thank you. One question I have is on the other models in the range with less inputs, do they offer the same flexibility as the 24? or are some things just reserved for this flagship model? (number of channels aside)Thanks. Peter.
I have the UI16 and its very similar in function except the HDMI port. Its there but doesn't function, it may have been activated now, by firmware updates, but its not a issue for me. There are forums online , you may find very helpful also.
@@TSBfixitnow Thank you for your response.
@@TSBfixitnow I hope you are ok - Since you know what your talking about, I'd like to ask another question please. I was looking at the Behringer x-air range. both the 12 and 16. One of the things I need is a facility to connect via USB to my computer and also recieve a return audio for Zoom calls. . Only the x-air 18 will do that. Do any of the smaller Ui range offer that facility?
can the preamps run an sm7b cleanly?
I run an sm7b without additional gain addons. I get nice clean gain out of it. The tricky thing about it is how the gain works. You need to crank your preamp up and slowly daily it back. I noticed that around 85% gain is the sweet spot. Anything under isn't enough and anything over can peak and add too much noise floor.
@@JamarConley Hey bud. Thanks for the helpful response. I've owned this now for a few months and yes I've had the same experience. I've run lots of different mics on it too, sm7b's, procasters, aston stealth, few podmics and never had to add additional gain for any of them. Great mixer.
Anybody think theyll shut down the web browser in like 5 years?
Does it need WiFi internet to work?
No ...but thats an option
Wifi is not internet. Wifi is a wireless network protocol.
Get an external router. Soundcraft should have gotten Cisco or someone to build them a good router. 100 extra dollars and its complete.
40:30 The guy nonchalantly lied about USB stick formatting, "...just FAT32, standard...". In 2020 FAT32 is NOT standard for moderns HDDs and big flash drives, and the unit does not recognize anything except FAT32. Windows doesn't support FAT32 anymore for any media larger than 32GB (which is actually quite small these days) and you have yo use 3rd party software to format to FAT32. Then of course there is file size limit, and the guy never even mentioned it. So what happens if for very long recording file size hits 4GB? Will it just fail?
32gb is more than enough for anything you'd ever record.
Where is the input for channels 21-24?
They're the stereo inputs found at the lower right (for iPod etc.) and the stereo USB playback.
That's 20 mic inputs and 2 pairs of stereo channels
Allenton to sound craft
Can you explain this video in spanish please iiiii
mixer es muy bueno, compra hoy!
Absulity
So you need a computer 💻 🖥 also?
Not necessarily. Any device that can use an internet browser albeit an Android tablet, phone, iPhone or iPad. Even a touchscreen LCD via HDMI will enable you to control mix. You can multi track record/playback straight onto USB stick and/or computer. Very flexible all in one mixing, recording interface for studio and live applications.
Not at all. The device has an HDMI out and 2 usb connections for keyboard and mouse. You can think of it AS a recording computer itself in that way.
He said "gubbins"
So many questions....and no answers ?
want so bad
For whom to want to know, this mixers idea is not Soundcraft idea. But they simply buying permissions. BTW, now Samsung buying Harman...
Yea I've looked everywhere for the original uMix mixers(Or stage box as they were called) and they come up as unavailable through dealers, but not a single one used. Lol
кой чего еще ua-cam.com/video/pOaUALsn4zE/v-deo.html
most of the times its engineer who gets rubbish 'musicians'. I know, Im both.
this is just like a TV info Advert! The Captain has lost his way allowing this rubbish!