But in all seriousness - adorably surprised kitty notwithstanding - I came here because I’m desperately seeking a replacement for my old iRobot Scooba. These versions with the pads, while “easier” just do not have the same cleaning horsepower of flooding the floor with clean water and then squeegeeing back up like the old Scooba, RIP. I wish that iRobot would just do 2 segments of products - 1 for those who don’t want to do any robot maintenance, and 1 for those who enjoy it because of the absolutely amazing results. Here’s hoping that you do a full review of the Shinebot by iLife, because it’s the only one I’ve found that functions with the clean/dirty tanks like the Scooba. (PS - I think this endless pursuit of one machine that can do everything is madness. They end up doing nothing super well.) Thanks for all the amazing info, camera shots and dedication - as always! And give that kitty a pet for me 😂❤
I’ve been using a Roomba j7+ to vacuum my entire upstairs for 8 months. It’s fantastic. Our white carpet still looks flawless. And I’m able to completely forget about the Roomba for weeks at a time. It just takes care of itself. And the “Clean Base” bag goes for more like 3 or 4 months in our house.
I literally just placed my Order for my Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, then 11 minutes later this dropped on youtube... I really hope a comparison video comes out soon!
You'll love your S7 MaxV Ultra. The pad cleaning and auto refill on the ultra dock is a game changer on top of the generally better mapping and navigation. The Roomba pad lifting mechanism is better for more plush carpets, but I don't see that alone being a reason to prefer this if you have money for the Roborock.
You’ll love it! I’m an iRobot fan myself because of the unmatched cleaning performance, but you can’t beat the smarts and navigation of a Roborock. Enjoy your purchase!
I like to believe you have one of the cleanest houses anywhere given all the tests you run, and then only use the best vacuums available based on the results🙂. Excellent review, thanks.
I'm hoping Roomba updates their mop line of robots. I'd personally rather have a dedicated mop vacuum as a robot focused on mopping should do the job much better than a combo unit. It could also have a clean base that is dedicated to cleaning and refilling the mop.
@@UItastic By update I assume what she or he means is actually having a clean base for the mop. I don't mind having a dedicated mop I just don't like having to do daily maintenance to be able to mop
Definitely. Dedicated device (no vacuum constraints to get in the way), so potential for a larger reservoir and better mopping hardware. Plus from a battery-life standpoint you have two devices, so you're not worrying about mopping not getting done because it ran out of battery after vacuuming. Not to mention you can have one device vacuuming while the other mops (so ideally jobs get done faster). I really hope they come out with something similar to the j7+ (dedicated vacuum) that's a mopping robot.
I have what I believe to be a fun idea. I think you should review 3m xtract portable dust Extractor. It is actually designed for dust extraction for woodworking but it can be used as a vacuum. It's a canister vac that apparently has a vibrating filter to eliminate caking. Absolutely Wild. Never heard of that before. Love the channel keep up the good work
I think it would be useful to add some reviews for vacuum/mop combos, such as the Roomba j7/m6, Dreame Z10/W10 and the like and how they perform overall versus all in one devices.
@@VacuumWars I bought one of Amazon NL with an amazing deal last week. For some reason they put it up for €699 while every other webshop has it for sale for €999. That's a 30% discount 😅 Strangely enough Amazon NL didn't say that €699 was a discount price, it just showed it as the regular price. Three days later they changed the price back to €999. I'm happy with the robot so far! It's more quiet when cleaning than my Neato D7 (except for the fighter jet self cleaning base at the end of a run), cleans well, the app is full of useful features. I have noticed though that this robot doesn't seem to use it's camera for anything other than obstacle recognition like cables and slippers. I mean, it will bump into every large furniture or object in my room and use its bumper to realize it's bumping into a solid non-movable object. This does mean that it will go through for example a bed sheet that's almost touching the floor while hanging on a drying rack to clean underneath the drying rack which is nice, my Neato D7 with it's LIDAR system would think the bedsheet was a solid object and would not go through the bedsheet. So I'm guessing it's only using the bumpers and floor scanner underneath to figure out the layout of the room.
Due to the review by Vacuum Wars, we purchased a Roborock Ultra S7 a few months ago and have been very pleased so far. Mopping on our light gray tile kitchen floors has to be mopped on the highest setting but does a good job. One note, we have mostly hard floors with some rugs. We love how the mop raises for rugs, the auto-mop cleaning, and how all 3 bins work for fresh water, dirty water, and bagging the dirt!
how do you deal with the smell of death out of the dirty water bin? We've had luck putting vinegar in it, about 1/8 cup every time to stop the mold growth.
@@yourmagicfilm you probably have a defective unit because the Rubber seal on that thing is so good that even if I don't empty it out for 3 weeks, I and everybody else in the house can't smell a thing. I'd recommend getting your Rubber seal checked out and possibly getting the dirty water bin replaced
@@yourmagicfilm 😳😳As another fella said… the seals are so good you shouldn’t be able to smell a thing. But also on another note… are you just using water? or are you using a cleaner?!! Mine smells fresh AF when I empty it every week🤷♂️
It only smells when I empty it, not when it’s just sitting there, so the rubber seals are good. But the moment we open it, it’s horrifying. I’ve looked into it and I am not the only one with this experience, many others have this “death smell”. It’s defeated with vinegar sitting in there each and every time, otherwise the bacteria builds up somehow in there.
@@firexgodx980 So you'd prefer the NSA/Amazon. Your data is still going to somehow end up with the Chinese by the end of it. Why not just go directly to them?
This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. The dual brush rolls and the self raising mop is the perfect combo. But, the mop is basically a wet rag being dragged across the floor. It would be great if there was sone vibration in the system too.
It's a dirty wet rag that can't clean itself and doesn't actually rub the floor, the S7 got v8 out while this thing only removes half the stain and spreads the other half around the house
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br irobot is really just pathetic these days from where they were years ago. They cannot compete in this market yet think they can still cost premium. Them getting bought out by Amazon after having mapping robots for years is just the icing on the cake.
I love the concept but my biggest issue with it is that you have to refill the water every day. Kinda defeats the purpose of having the dust trap self empty
I have 2 S9+... I think I'll wait until they so something with that model for a combo feature, before stepping down to a 7 with the addition of a spray type swiffer. S9+ is best for vacuuming. Afterwards I can do a more thorough swiffering in less time, considering grooves in wood, or grout in tile.
iRobot really are slacking in the robot mop and vacuum game. I don’t understand why iRobot don’t bring a roomba s10 out which has the power of the s9 or more and also has a mop function where it sprays water but also has rotating brushes? Oh and a clean base which would self clean the pads & dry them. Also a tank so it could fill up and go back to the job if need be. I just don’t understand why iRobot wouldn’t do this? It seems the robots are getting worse. Bring back the scooba also. Nothing cleans like the 450! Big love guys
Thanks for another great video. I’m looking forward to seeing you pit it against the Roborock. That last part where you showed the rollers getting wet/contaminated might be solved by running the vacuum and mop operations in separate days to allow the time for the mop to dry out. I did laugh when your cat fell into the box, I knew that was going to happen 😂
Interesting point. The moisture issue in the vacuum area of the Roomba doesn’t seem to be present in any of the other robotic vacuum/mops… could this be a design flaw?!?!
@@lukeclifton4392 I have the roborock S5 max. I always use the mop/vacuum function. Without fail, 100% of all jobs require me to clean some wet dust from the roller compartment.
I can’t wait for robo vacuum five years from now They’d all have moving pads that won’t get on carpet while they vacuum all with empty/fill/self cleaning docs Maybe a directional sense (or a way to set one) so that way it can go “with the grain” on hardwood floors And get into corners better
Nice review, I do think Irobot is really falling behind as far as technology though. I have the Roomba J7 Plus and the navigation simply is not as good as the lidar bots, I think Irobot needs to get rid of VSLAM and start using Lidar, they can keep the camera on the front for obstacle avoidance but when it comes to mapping, Lidar is far superior. It's good if they included a larger battery in the J7 combo. It seems really expensive for what you get though, for just a little more you can have a robot that navigates better and that can self empty and clean the mop pad. Also the suction and airflow on the J7 bots are much lower than other premium robots. Irobot should have stuck with the motor they used on the S9. I probably will not even consider another Roomba unless they switch to Lidar, out of my 11 robots, the Roomba J7 takes the longest to clean my place, I think companies such as Roborock and Ecovacs are walking all over Irobot with their technology.
I bought a j7+ and have had nothing but problems with it. iRobot said they couldn’t help me and that even though it was not functioning normal I have to just make it work. I said so your saying I wasted $600 and they said have a good day. I got the Roborock S7maxv on a great sale. It’s been amazing. All have their issues but it’s on a totally different level than iRobot products. The only thing better on the j7 is it’s able to detect things on carpet better than the S7max. That can be fixed with an update. Everything else the Roborock is leagues better.
@@matt07497 The s7 maxv is also 2x the cost... No idea what your actual issues were, but you may have had a defective one. The s7 maxv will likely never have object detect as good as the j7+ with a software update. machine vision AI is more flexible than Lidar but also much harder to implement from a programming and circuitry perspective.
@@mrbobsevil I bought the maxv for $1050. So if you bought the j7+ and the separate mop on sale it would be close to the same price. Or the new j7+ I think is around $1k. I had the j7 replaced then the j7 and auto empty replaced then they wouldn’t help anymore. First was a defective main brush module and nav issues. Then nav issues and dust bin collection issues. They said we can see it’s throwing error codes on nav. The suction is way to low so thing would get stuck and cut into the main brushes. Oh and besides having to babysit it all the time. Literally all the time and putting it back on the dock because it would be 10 feet away from the dock and sit until the battery died because it couldn’t find the dock according to the message. The reason why I think the maxv can be as good with object ai is because the maxv has 2 cameras, 2 3D sensors, and the LiDAR, not including other sensors. The j7 has 1 camera, no 3D sensors, and no LiDAR. I have both and compared both and it’s just an inferior design. But 1 camera with focus put on it is easier to program than multiple systems like the s7max. But seeing the potential of the s7max on hard wood floor detection. Being able to pick up a toy on the floor that is 1”x1” from app 10’ away is impressive in my opinion.
@@mrbobsevil I have the j7+ it misses the edges of most rooms. Takes twice as long as my lidar bots. Constantly having issues with it. The only good thing for it is the camera object avoidance
Thanks for the review. I have the iRobot S9 and M6. The S9 have been a total workhorse but M6 has been continual headache in having it map my condo properly. The challenge is all the transition strips and the fact I have mostly hardwood/marble/tile with a four large area rugs of various thicknesses. The M6 rides up to the rugs and gets stuck, or it goes in confusing routes. I have tried to reset the unit and redo the map a number of times but no success. I had been looking for iRobot to do a combo unit but after looking at your review and how the moisture gets into the unit and dust bin, it will be a hard no. I have three hairy cats and the condo has a lot of dust and dander. No way I will be getting a machine that I will have to continuously dig out wet fur. I wish they can make improvements on the M6, bigger wheels to go pass the transition strips and maybe even be able to use one map between the vac and the mop.
Roborock Ultra is much better navigation--it's like it's not bothered by the carpets at all. But the real downer here with J7+ is there is no water tank on the dock. The BEST THING about Roborock is self cleaning and emptying dust and water!
Hi @vacuum wars. As always thank you for another great review. Would you suggest getting the Braava Jet M6 with the Roomba J7+ instead of the Roomba Combo J7+ and have separate untils. One for vacuuming and one for mopping?
Depends if you have pets. Although the J7+ and S9 share maps, unfortunately they don't share avoidance so the J7+/S9 is going to avoid the poop and the M6 is going to mop that shit all over your floors. Based on my research at the moment the best mop is maybe the Ecovacs Omni. It's not great at vacuuming, so I'd still go maybe for a combo unless I had no carpet. Irobot is pretty terrible mops (even the combi), no self cleaning mop and also no vibration or scrubbing on the mop. It's basically dragging around a cloth on your floor. +1 for raising the head over and locking it inside so there is no leakage onto the carpet, but considering the dirt on the rollers, I'd not trust the combo leaving marks after it's mopped (which is likely why it vacuums first) unless you clean it after every run. irobot is just playing catch up and missing out on features, which is after all these years they release a combo with no improvements on a sub-par mopping robot like the M6.
Thank you so much. Would you be willing to do a comparison for this Roomba vs Roborock S7 MaxV ULTRA ? I love your videos so thorough and short. Makes it so easy for us!! Thank you
lol. I ran my Roborock S6 MaxV half a year without ANY "regular maintenance". And when pulled everything apart it looked basically clean. And that thing does look after what? A week? Like a mess.
I have a Roomba S9+ vacuum robot. Does the job in my house. Was looking for a Braava, to mop. I have several thresholds, one allmost 1" tall. The Braava would not climb those, while the S9+ has no problem. What will the J7+ combo do? Will it climb whatever the S9+ was climbing, but as soon as I send it to mop stop like the Braava? This is what I would have liked for you to test. Will a mop setting change this robot's climbing setting. Or maybe it will climb like a Roomba and then move to mop? Does it maybe get stuck, because it won't know what to do, if it encounters a high threshold, while mopping? I mean, this combo robot could be the answer for me, but I need to know what it does with thresholds. How does the vacuum suction compare with the S9+? Thanks for the great review otherwise.
I have J7+ robot vacuum and predominantly laminate wood floors. I would say it does great with pet fur, hair, dust, and other fine debris (I.e., small crumbs). For more solid dirt or anything larger than what I just mentioned, I have to run the vacuum twice and even still it doesn’t always pick those up. I don’t have the mop feature but I can’t imagine it doing better than Swiffer
Glad to hear iRobot did such a good job. My regular J7+ is fantastic. I got it after a lot of research and thanks to your great testing. I always recommend it to people. It just simply “works”!
@@VacuumWars thank you! I think it should be mentioned that the T8 AIVI will not work on Raised Textured Tiles, in fact that will break the robot because of how aggressively it drives over them
Which would you recommend the x1 Onmi or this one for mopping? I have mostly bare floors, no carpet except for the bathroom and by the balcony door. Your opinion is appreciated 😊 also your cat is so chunky, can I put my face in its belly 🥰🥰
Have you got any advice on a comparison with a Deebot X1? I wasn't looking at the J7 initially, but i never considered the challenge of mopping and vacuuming at the same time.. I just figured the Deebot X1 wouldn't have tried to mop the carpet..
We haven't compared these specifically, but there were both candidates in our 2022 Best Robot Vacuum competition right here: ua-cam.com/video/UAivdTJsRig/v-deo.html
I bought the Roborock and find that I can let it do it's thing, with monthly maintenance and cleaning my kitchen floor with another device once a month as well. Been very happy, but wanted a Roomba so waiting to see what your head to head conclusions are!
I bought a j7+ and have had nothing but problems with it. iRobot said they couldn’t help me and that even though it was not functioning normal I have to just make it work. I said so your saying I wasted $600 and they said have a good day. I got the Roborock S7maxv on a great sale. It’s been amazing. All have their issues but it’s on a totally different level than iRobot products. The only thing better on the j7 is it’s able to detect things on carpet better than the S7max. That can be fixed with an update. Everything else the Roborock is leagues better. Hope that helps.
Hi new subscriber here! I am looking to buy a combo vacuum/mop one for hard floors. ( preferably something with a tank) we can refill. Which one do you think would be the best, i saw your previous video on Combo ones, but am curious how this one would rank vs those as well.
I’m with you there, I went for iRobot as I don’t trust Chinese companies. I don’t like that Amazon are trying to buy them, but I think that’s the lesser of two evils here.
It would be incredible if you could also review the Roborock Q7 Max+. This robot especially looks like a great buy with Black Friday deals and there are reviews on UA-cam, but none seem to be as comprehensive as the vacuum wars testing methodology.
can roombas be set to ‘not’ empty at the end of each run automatically? it would give us more scheduling flexibility if we could separately schedule when it empties - like when we’re not in the house to hear the 747 take off
Yeah, but you need to remove the bag from the self empty station, and the station will detect if there is a bag or not. You can’t do it from the app. YET.
It would be interesting to see how this performs against the M6. I've been looking at Dreame and Ecovacs for the spinning mop design, but I prefer (trust) iRobot as a company.
I highly recommend looking into getting a Narwal. They are the first company to make the worlds first self cleaning robot mop and they just released the new Freo which I'm gonna get on a black Friday sale
you don't think it's a big deal to have moisture in the brush!?!? I bought robot to have peace of mind and spend my time clean it. I am really happy of my S7 maxV! Thanks to you.
The dual roller has already been a feature for some time now as we already have that. I'm curious about the pad? I'm guessing the pad is always up until it gets to the mopping mode? If that's the case then we can more easily change the pad after each use unlike the irobot mopping counterpat. Curious what the fail rate is if the mop arms mechanism us and what the cost of that repair would be or would you game to get a new unit? Does the subscription cover any of these repairs or maintenance?
I think they need to come out with another mop only successor to the M6. Add the front camera of J7+ and vibration mop pad. Plus have it lift as well. With my M6, I had to remove all the transitions in my house, and just put down black Gorilla tape for the M6 to go over. Even then the M6 likes to ram into corners and things. Even my J7+ for some reason always likes to touch corners when it goes around them and bumps them, instead of clearly avoiding them when going back home. I've tried mapping a dozen times and over a dozen runs and the J7+ still loves to touch up against corners, and lights it light. Like it's still trying to learn.
I mean, isn't it just dragging a wet rag around when mopping? Is this really where the level of iRobot's innovation is atm? I would've thought RoboRock et al with their vibrating/rotating mops etc would absolutely demolish this stone-age design in comparison tests?
Same thought exactly. I had roborock.s7 without the dock. Manually cleaning the mop is a hassle. Now with the dock it cleans it every 15 minutes. That's the real game changer.
Too many unknown factors involved for us to guess with intuition (similar to how he determines roombas clean carpets a little better, even though they have less suction). This is why we need testing, to find out if what we “think” should be true, actually is.
I believe it pushes the mop pad into the floor and then will move forward and back like the Braava 380 does. It also can add solution and water. Might be heated too, but idk.
True. But no different than using a Swiffer. I have the m6 however and I almost exclusively use it to dry mop after my S9 or J7 finishes. I think that's the best benefit of the mops rather than the wet mopping.
Totally agree. The J7+ is total crap, I returned mine within days and bought a Ecovacs TruDetect and its way better. Roborock has the best navigation and all round they're the best robots you can get.
My regular j7 now lets you “check in” with the robot via its camera and drive it around and look around, poor visibility in low light but wanted to add this update to the unit.
Roomba Combo J7+ on Amazon: geni.us/mxG3
3:46 wow what a good pet owner getting ur cat a new box :D
3:46 with the cat falling into the box is hilarious!
Perfection!!! Right on cue!! 😂
But in all seriousness - adorably surprised kitty notwithstanding - I came here because I’m desperately seeking a replacement for my old iRobot Scooba.
These versions with the pads, while “easier” just do not have the same cleaning horsepower of flooding the floor with clean water and then squeegeeing back up like the old Scooba, RIP.
I wish that iRobot would just do 2 segments of products - 1 for those who don’t want to do any robot maintenance, and 1 for those who enjoy it because of the absolutely amazing results.
Here’s hoping that you do a full review of the Shinebot by iLife, because it’s the only one I’ve found that functions with the clean/dirty tanks like the Scooba.
(PS - I think this endless pursuit of one machine that can do everything is madness. They end up doing nothing super well.)
Thanks for all the amazing info, camera shots and dedication - as always! And give that kitty a pet for me 😂❤
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I’ve been using a Roomba j7+ to vacuum my entire upstairs for 8 months. It’s fantastic. Our white carpet still looks flawless. And I’m able to completely forget about the Roomba for weeks at a time. It just takes care of itself. And the “Clean Base” bag goes for more like 3 or 4 months in our house.
How about just the hard floors? How effective is it?
I literally just placed my Order for my Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, then 11 minutes later this dropped on youtube...
I really hope a comparison video comes out soon!
You'll love your S7 MaxV Ultra. The pad cleaning and auto refill on the ultra dock is a game changer on top of the generally better mapping and navigation. The Roomba pad lifting mechanism is better for more plush carpets, but I don't see that alone being a reason to prefer this if you have money for the Roborock.
Def stay with the roborock...MUCH better overall
You definitely made the right decision, I was an iRobot fan for years switch to Roborock and will not go back!
You’ll love it!
I’m an iRobot fan myself because of the unmatched cleaning performance, but you can’t beat the smarts and navigation of a Roborock.
Enjoy your purchase!
buy roborock dont even consider anything from irobot
I like to believe you have one of the cleanest houses anywhere given all the tests you run, and then only use the best vacuums available based on the results🙂. Excellent review, thanks.
Thank you!
I'm hoping Roomba updates their mop line of robots. I'd personally rather have a dedicated mop vacuum as a robot focused on mopping should do the job much better than a combo unit. It could also have a clean base that is dedicated to cleaning and refilling the mop.
there is already a brava series that irobot made for only mops
@@UItastic By update I assume what she or he means is actually having a clean base for the mop. I don't mind having a dedicated mop I just don't like having to do daily maintenance to be able to mop
Bring. Back. SCOOBA!!
Definitely. Dedicated device (no vacuum constraints to get in the way), so potential for a larger reservoir and better mopping hardware. Plus from a battery-life standpoint you have two devices, so you're not worrying about mopping not getting done because it ran out of battery after vacuuming. Not to mention you can have one device vacuuming while the other mops (so ideally jobs get done faster). I really hope they come out with something similar to the j7+ (dedicated vacuum) that's a mopping robot.
This! THIS IS THE FREAKING REVIEW FORMAT THAT RULES THE ROOST! Holy cow is this great.
Great to hear! Thank you!
I have what I believe to be a fun idea. I think you should review 3m xtract portable dust Extractor. It is actually designed for dust extraction for woodworking but it can be used as a vacuum. It's a canister vac that apparently has a vibrating filter to eliminate caking. Absolutely Wild. Never heard of that before. Love the channel keep up the good work
Not me rewatching cat slowly sink into box in the background multiple times 😂
I think it would be useful to add some reviews for vacuum/mop combos, such as the Roomba j7/m6, Dreame Z10/W10 and the like and how they perform overall versus all in one devices.
Coming here from the cortex podcast... It's hilariously amazing, thanks for the reviews!
Welcome!
I just told my mom today, I wanted to see your review before she purchased, right on time.
Perfect!
I wouldn’t get iRobot. I have one. Nothing but issue. Go Roborock
@@matt07497 I totally agree watch mrwhosetheboss on the robot
is the suction power stronger or as strong as the model before it?
I saw this on iRobots website a few days ago and was waiting for a review from my most trusted reviewer on UA-cam 😁 👍
Glad I could help!
@@VacuumWars I bought one of Amazon NL with an amazing deal last week. For some reason they put it up for €699 while every other webshop has it for sale for €999. That's a 30% discount 😅 Strangely enough Amazon NL didn't say that €699 was a discount price, it just showed it as the regular price. Three days later they changed the price back to €999. I'm happy with the robot so far! It's more quiet when cleaning than my Neato D7 (except for the fighter jet self cleaning base at the end of a run), cleans well, the app is full of useful features. I have noticed though that this robot doesn't seem to use it's camera for anything other than obstacle recognition like cables and slippers. I mean, it will bump into every large furniture or object in my room and use its bumper to realize it's bumping into a solid non-movable object. This does mean that it will go through for example a bed sheet that's almost touching the floor while hanging on a drying rack to clean underneath the drying rack which is nice, my Neato D7 with it's LIDAR system would think the bedsheet was a solid object and would not go through the bedsheet. So I'm guessing it's only using the bumpers and floor scanner underneath to figure out the layout of the room.
that poor cat made my day. 🤣
thanks for the video. very informative. 😀
That's great! Thanks!
Due to the review by Vacuum Wars, we purchased a Roborock Ultra S7 a few months ago and have been very pleased so far. Mopping on our light gray tile kitchen floors has to be mopped on the highest setting but does a good job. One note, we have mostly hard floors with some rugs. We love how the mop raises for rugs, the auto-mop cleaning, and how all 3 bins work for fresh water, dirty water, and bagging the dirt!
Thanks for sharing! So glad to have helped!
how do you deal with the smell of death out of the dirty water bin? We've had luck putting vinegar in it, about 1/8 cup every time to stop the mold growth.
@@yourmagicfilm you probably have a defective unit because the Rubber seal on that thing is so good that even if I don't empty it out for 3 weeks, I and everybody else in the house can't smell a thing. I'd recommend getting your Rubber seal checked out and possibly getting the dirty water bin replaced
@@yourmagicfilm 😳😳As another fella said… the seals are so good you shouldn’t be able to smell a thing. But also on another note… are you just using water? or are you using a cleaner?!! Mine smells fresh AF when I empty it every week🤷♂️
It only smells when I empty it, not when it’s just sitting there, so the rubber seals are good. But the moment we open it, it’s horrifying. I’ve looked into it and I am not the only one with this experience, many others have this “death smell”. It’s defeated with vinegar sitting in there each and every time, otherwise the bacteria builds up somehow in there.
Great idea but I'm bummed it doesn't auto clean the mop or auto refill the water.
Yeah that would make it perfect. Unfortunately the only vacuum/mop combo that does this is owned by the chinese government, so that's a hard pass.
@@firexgodx980 So you'd prefer the NSA/Amazon. Your data is still going to somehow end up with the Chinese by the end of it. Why not just go directly to them?
@@amentco8445 it's not just about data, it's about supporting a hostile country.
@@firexgodx980 You could argue that the US is not that better for other countries in comparison.
This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. The dual brush rolls and the self raising mop is the perfect combo. But, the mop is basically a wet rag being dragged across the floor. It would be great if there was sone vibration in the system too.
There could be also mop cleaning on the base :)
It's a dirty wet rag that can't clean itself and doesn't actually rub the floor, the S7 got v8 out while this thing only removes half the stain and spreads the other half around the house
…with imperfect design and engineering!😂😂😂 Roomba’s done❌
U wish
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br irobot is really just pathetic these days from where they were years ago. They cannot compete in this market yet think they can still cost premium. Them getting bought out by Amazon after having mapping robots for years is just the icing on the cake.
I love the concept but my biggest issue with it is that you have to refill the water every day. Kinda defeats the purpose of having the dust trap self empty
And with such a small mop pad and no automated mop cleaning, its going to get dirty fast.
Get a Roborock S7 MaxV ultra :)
@@RubenKelevra doesn't work with anything but low pile carpets
Why did they make the bin system a disposable bag and not a clear plastic emptying can with a release lever?
I’m waiting on a non-combo update from Roomba. I’m hoping they combine the suction of the S9 with the intelligence of the J7 in their next release.
there is already a j7 (Not j7+) vacum only unit you can buy for $300 cheaper.
I have 2 S9+... I think I'll wait until they so something with that model for a combo feature, before stepping down to a 7 with the addition of a spray type swiffer. S9+ is best for vacuuming. Afterwards I can do a more thorough swiffering in less time, considering grooves in wood, or grout in tile.
How the hell did you get TWO?! Who's your plug 🥲
@JustahBurnehr hard work lol 😆 💪
@@Andysaid420 Damnnn! You hiring??
iRobot really are slacking in the robot mop and vacuum game. I don’t understand why iRobot don’t bring a roomba s10 out which has the power of the s9 or more and also has a mop function where it sprays water but also has rotating brushes? Oh and a clean base which would self clean the pads & dry them. Also a tank so it could fill up and go back to the job if need be. I just don’t understand why iRobot wouldn’t do this? It seems the robots are getting worse. Bring back the scooba also. Nothing cleans like the 450! Big love guys
I freaking love this channel.
Aw thank you!
Thanks for another great video. I’m looking forward to seeing you pit it against the Roborock.
That last part where you showed the rollers getting wet/contaminated might be solved by running the vacuum and mop operations in separate days to allow the time for the mop to dry out.
I did laugh when your cat fell into the box, I knew that was going to happen 😂
Interesting point. The moisture issue in the vacuum area of the Roomba doesn’t seem to be present in any of the other robotic vacuum/mops… could this be a design flaw?!?!
@@lukeclifton4392 I have the roborock S5 max. I always use the mop/vacuum function. Without fail, 100% of all jobs require me to clean some wet dust from the roller compartment.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this review!
Hope you like it!
Is it better than the non-combo J7+ and Braavo M6 combination? That's what I'm using now. Leaves tire tracks which is my only issue.
I can’t wait for robo vacuum five years from now
They’d all have moving pads that won’t get on carpet while they vacuum all with empty/fill/self cleaning docs
Maybe a directional sense (or a way to set one) so that way it can go “with the grain” on hardwood floors
And get into corners better
Nice review, I do think Irobot is really falling behind as far as technology though. I have the Roomba J7 Plus and the navigation simply is not as good as the lidar bots, I think Irobot needs to get rid of VSLAM and start using Lidar, they can keep the camera on the front for obstacle avoidance but when it comes to mapping, Lidar is far superior. It's good if they included a larger battery in the J7 combo. It seems really expensive for what you get though, for just a little more you can have a robot that navigates better and that can self empty and clean the mop pad. Also the suction and airflow on the J7 bots are much lower than other premium robots. Irobot should have stuck with the motor they used on the S9. I probably will not even consider another Roomba unless they switch to Lidar, out of my 11 robots, the Roomba J7 takes the longest to clean my place, I think companies such as Roborock and Ecovacs are walking all over Irobot with their technology.
The j7+ navigation is maybe the best in the industry. machine vision and ai object recognition are the future.
I bought a j7+ and have had nothing but problems with it. iRobot said they couldn’t help me and that even though it was not functioning normal I have to just make it work. I said so your saying I wasted $600 and they said have a good day.
I got the Roborock S7maxv on a great sale. It’s been amazing. All have their issues but it’s on a totally different level than iRobot products. The only thing better on the j7 is it’s able to detect things on carpet better than the S7max. That can be fixed with an update. Everything else the Roborock is leagues better.
@@matt07497 The s7 maxv is also 2x the cost... No idea what your actual issues were, but you may have had a defective one.
The s7 maxv will likely never have object detect as good as the j7+ with a software update. machine vision AI is more flexible than Lidar but also much harder to implement from a programming and circuitry perspective.
@@mrbobsevil I bought the maxv for $1050. So if you bought the j7+ and the separate mop on sale it would be close to the same price. Or the new j7+ I think is around $1k.
I had the j7 replaced then the j7 and auto empty replaced then they wouldn’t help anymore. First was a defective main brush module and nav issues. Then nav issues and dust bin collection issues. They said we can see it’s throwing error codes on nav. The suction is way to low so thing would get stuck and cut into the main brushes.
Oh and besides having to babysit it all the time. Literally all the time and putting it back on the dock because it would be 10 feet away from the dock and sit until the battery died because it couldn’t find the dock according to the message. The reason why I think the maxv can be as good with object ai is because the maxv has 2 cameras, 2 3D sensors, and the LiDAR, not including other sensors. The j7 has 1 camera, no 3D sensors, and no LiDAR. I have both and compared both and it’s just an inferior design. But 1 camera with focus put on it is easier to program than multiple systems like the s7max. But seeing the potential of the s7max on hard wood floor detection. Being able to pick up a toy on the floor that is 1”x1” from app 10’ away is impressive in my opinion.
@@mrbobsevil I have the j7+ it misses the edges of most rooms. Takes twice as long as my lidar bots. Constantly having issues with it. The only good thing for it is the camera object avoidance
Thanks for the review. I have the iRobot S9 and M6. The S9 have been a total workhorse but M6 has been continual headache in having it map my condo properly. The challenge is all the transition strips and the fact I have mostly hardwood/marble/tile with a four large area rugs of various thicknesses. The M6 rides up to the rugs and gets stuck, or it goes in confusing routes. I have tried to reset the unit and redo the map a number of times but no success. I had been looking for iRobot to do a combo unit but after looking at your review and how the moisture gets into the unit and dust bin, it will be a hard no. I have three hairy cats and the condo has a lot of dust and dander. No way I will be getting a machine that I will have to continuously dig out wet fur. I wish they can make improvements on the M6, bigger wheels to go pass the transition strips and maybe even be able to use one map between the vac and the mop.
Roborock Ultra is much better navigation--it's like it's not bothered by the carpets at all. But the real downer here with J7+ is there is no water tank on the dock. The BEST THING about Roborock is self cleaning and emptying dust and water!
Hi. Great video. Do you know if J7 can avoid pet urine?
Just got mine. Does it make a grinding noise when turning right? Wanted to see if this was normal
First! I’ve been waiting for this!
Can you do a self emptying robot comparison like you did with the mopping and so obstacle avoidance tests?
Thanks! Tryin to keep up! We will try!
@@VacuumWars what is the airflow for this robot?
Which is better for home with only wood floors - the roomba combo or the roborock max ultra?
Have you seen our recent Best Robot Vacuum Competition? ua-cam.com/video/UAivdTJsRig/v-deo.html
I would like to see a test of customer service performance such as courtesy, knowledge, ease of use and responsiveness.
Do you know its height clearence for carpets? Mine is a bit thick and even the S9 struggles a bit.
“It gets water in the vacuum apparatus” is a total dealbreaker.
Hi @vacuum wars. As always thank you for another great review. Would you suggest getting the Braava Jet M6 with the Roomba J7+ instead of the Roomba Combo J7+ and have separate untils. One for vacuuming and one for mopping?
Depends if you have pets. Although the J7+ and S9 share maps, unfortunately they don't share avoidance so the J7+/S9 is going to avoid the poop and the M6 is going to mop that shit all over your floors.
Based on my research at the moment the best mop is maybe the Ecovacs Omni. It's not great at vacuuming, so I'd still go maybe for a combo unless I had no carpet. Irobot is pretty terrible mops (even the combi), no self cleaning mop and also no vibration or scrubbing on the mop. It's basically dragging around a cloth on your floor. +1 for raising the head over and locking it inside so there is no leakage onto the carpet, but considering the dirt on the rollers, I'd not trust the combo leaving marks after it's mopped (which is likely why it vacuums first) unless you clean it after every run.
irobot is just playing catch up and missing out on features, which is after all these years they release a combo with no improvements on a sub-par mopping robot like the M6.
Do you think a j7+ braava jet m6 combo would be better than this?
M6 would always be better this is not hood
Yes
Great review. Great cat feat.
Thanks!
Thank you so much. Would you be willing to do a comparison for this Roomba vs Roborock S7 MaxV ULTRA ? I love your videos so thorough and short. Makes it so easy for us!! Thank you
We basically compared those in our Best Robot Vacuums 2022 video right here - ua-cam.com/video/UAivdTJsRig/v-deo.html - hope that helps!
@@VacuumWars Sorry. Thank you so very much!
lol. I ran my Roborock S6 MaxV half a year without ANY "regular maintenance". And when pulled everything apart it looked basically clean. And that thing does look after what? A week? Like a mess.
What about hairs will they pick up
I have a Roomba S9+ vacuum robot. Does the job in my house. Was looking for a Braava, to mop. I have several thresholds, one allmost 1" tall. The Braava would not climb those, while the S9+ has no problem.
What will the J7+ combo do? Will it climb whatever the S9+ was climbing, but as soon as I send it to mop stop like the Braava? This is what I would have liked for you to test. Will a mop setting change this robot's climbing setting.
Or maybe it will climb like a Roomba and then move to mop? Does it maybe get stuck, because it won't know what to do, if it encounters a high threshold, while mopping?
I mean, this combo robot could be the answer for me, but I need to know what it does with thresholds.
How does the vacuum suction compare with the S9+?
Thanks for the great review otherwise.
J7+ Combo vs S7MaxVUltra in the works?
Are these things really good? I just changed floors from carpet to laminate. Can they really sweep and mop good?
I have J7+ robot vacuum and predominantly laminate wood floors. I would say it does great with pet fur, hair, dust, and other fine debris (I.e., small crumbs). For more solid dirt or anything larger than what I just mentioned, I have to run the vacuum twice and even still it doesn’t always pick those up. I don’t have the mop feature but I can’t imagine it doing better than Swiffer
How does it compare to the dedicated M6? (curious as I have a regular J7+ and an M6)
Thanks for the great reviews :)
Glad to hear iRobot did such a good job. My regular J7+ is fantastic. I got it after a lot of research and thanks to your great testing. I always recommend it to people. It just simply “works”!
Great to hear!
Same, I’m loving my J7 and wouldn’t go for anything else.
Thanks for the review VW! Well done. However the robot is still just dragging a dirty mop pad around.
Once again your videos helped get another robot vacuum. This one should hopefully be more reliable than the Ecovacs T8 AIVI. Fingers Crossed
Hope you enjoy it! Thank you for watching!
@@VacuumWars thank you! I think it should be mentioned that the T8 AIVI will not work on Raised Textured Tiles, in fact that will break the robot because of how aggressively it drives over them
I love the cat in a box lol that’s the best. Cats love to get into a box. So cute and thanks for your video has helped me so much
You are so welcome!
can you review which vacuum dock is less messier to maintain?i saw a post on reddlt where they forgot to clean the roborock dock and it was clogged
I'll stock with my Roborock S7 plus for the win 🏆
Which would you recommend the x1 Onmi or this one for mopping? I have mostly bare floors, no carpet except for the bathroom and by the balcony door. Your opinion is appreciated 😊 also your cat is so chunky, can I put my face in its belly 🥰🥰
Would love a comparison of hardfloor/tiles only vacuum robots - where you get the best value for mopping per price.
have you tested any of the Bissell models
Whats the power input of ROOMBA J7+
Is it 100-240VAC? Please reply
Hi! Love your channel. Could you review the shark vacuum/mop combo?
We will have the Best Robot Vacuum 2022 video out soon and hope to include that one. Thanks for asking.
Have you got any advice on a comparison with a Deebot X1? I wasn't looking at the J7 initially, but i never considered the challenge of mopping and vacuuming at the same time.. I just figured the Deebot X1 wouldn't have tried to mop the carpet..
We haven't compared these specifically, but there were both candidates in our 2022 Best Robot Vacuum competition right here: ua-cam.com/video/UAivdTJsRig/v-deo.html
I bought the Roborock and find that I can let it do it's thing, with monthly maintenance and cleaning my kitchen floor with another device once a month as well. Been very happy, but wanted a Roomba so waiting to see what your head to head conclusions are!
I bought a j7+ and have had nothing but problems with it. iRobot said they couldn’t help me and that even though it was not functioning normal I have to just make it work. I said so your saying I wasted $600 and they said have a good day.
I got the Roborock S7maxv on a great sale. It’s been amazing. All have their issues but it’s on a totally different level than iRobot products. The only thing better on the j7 is it’s able to detect things on carpet better than the S7max. That can be fixed with an update. Everything else the Roborock is leagues better. Hope that helps.
Roborock is leaps and bounds better than iRobot. Trust me I’ve owned 9 different robot vacuums.
Great info, as usual. A comprehensive test of its mapping and navigation would be very helpful.
Are the airflow results the same as the regular j7+? On some clips that I've seen it does sound noticeably louder than the j7+.
It had almost identical numbers, maybe a little higher than the original. Same on the deep clean test.
Have you tested the Ecozy ld200b? Have not seen it yet and looks to be not bad as a entry type robot vacuum.
you said u dont find the dual brush on any other brand thats wrong the ecovacs t9 aivi has the same brush system and even the same brushes
Remeber me? OMG THANKS SO MUCH FOR POSTING THISSSSSSSSSS!!
Good as Always 👌🏻👍🏻💪🏻
Thank you 🙌
If I don’t have carpet in my house, what is the best vacuum/mop combo?
Are the treads on the main wheels different too?
Hows it handle hair?
Is the internal dust bin interchangeable from j7+ to j7 combo because of the water reservoir?
I have the j7+, what if I buy the j7 combo can I change the Roomba on the same clean base
Can you test out sharp air purifiers & their plasmacluster technology? (They are different from regular ionic air purifiers)
Hi new subscriber here! I am looking to buy a combo vacuum/mop one for hard floors. ( preferably something with a tank) we can refill. Which one do you think would be the best, i saw your previous video on Combo ones, but am curious how this one would rank vs those as well.
So a dyson is not in the recommended list of Cordless at all?
What would you buy, J7+ or S7 MaxV Ultra?
Thanks!
You bet!
Is this better than s9+/m6 mop?
Great review as always. It would however be great if you would include privacy as a factor when reviewing robot vacuums.
Thank you!
What are your concerns? The company stores a map of your house and knows how many times you vacuumed the room labeled “kitchen”.
This is the primary reason that I haven't moved more innovative companies like Roborock.
@@BLKSG6 internet enabled devices are notorious for being hacked
I’m with you there, I went for iRobot as I don’t trust Chinese companies. I don’t like that Amazon are trying to buy them, but I think that’s the lesser of two evils here.
It would be incredible if you could also review the Roborock Q7 Max+. This robot especially looks like a great buy with Black Friday deals and there are reviews on UA-cam, but none seem to be as comprehensive as the vacuum wars testing methodology.
We are putting the finishing touches on that Q7 Max review now! It will be ready at 4pm EST today!
can roombas be set to ‘not’ empty at the end of each run automatically? it would give us more scheduling flexibility if we could separately schedule when it empties - like when we’re not in the house to hear the 747 take off
…the RoboRock can🙂
Answer to your question: no
Yeah, but you need to remove the bag from the self empty station, and the station will detect if there is a bag or not. You can’t do it from the app. YET.
Yes turn on do not disturb
Roomba j7 combo or Roborock s8?
Do you have a video that matches this one up with the roborock s7 maxv ultra trying to decide which one is better
We do - take a look at our Best Robot Vacuums 2022 video - ua-cam.com/video/UAivdTJsRig/v-deo.html
@Vacuum Wars thank you. I was wondering the dreambot l10s had much better scores in many tests then say roborock why did it not make the top 3?
Can u try the xiaomi robots for comparaison since they r super cheap compared to the market medium
Are you going to test the Dreame L10s Ultra?
What does "pure robot vacuum" mean? I thought it meant a robot that just vacuums. but this one mops as well?
Question is who mop better roborock or Roomba?
You made no mention of what appeared to be an epic failure on the UV testing
It would be interesting to see how this performs against the M6. I've been looking at Dreame and Ecovacs for the spinning mop design, but I prefer (trust) iRobot as a company.
I highly recommend looking into getting a Narwal. They are the first company to make the worlds first self cleaning robot mop and they just released the new Freo which I'm gonna get on a black Friday sale
iRobot fell behind few years ago. This is the result. Old tech
@Tommyownzz Not as much as Neato. I don’t think you’ve heard of them in the past 2 years, right?
@@Tommyownzz Yep. Stopped trusting them after trying out their highest end model, and it flopped.
you don't think it's a big deal to have moisture in the brush!?!? I bought robot to have peace of mind and spend my time clean it. I am really happy of my S7 maxV! Thanks to you.
The dual roller has already been a feature for some time now as we already have that. I'm curious about the pad? I'm guessing the pad is always up until it gets to the mopping mode? If that's the case then we can more easily change the pad after each use unlike the irobot mopping counterpat. Curious what the fail rate is if the mop arms mechanism us and what the cost of that repair would be or would you game to get a new unit? Does the subscription cover any of these repairs or maintenance?
How about avoiding cat fur balls? Can it avoid fur balls as it does pet waste?
I love the videos as always but the cat in the box just sealed it for me lol
Thank you!!
What’s the Best robot vacuum if you just want it to vacuum?
I think they need to come out with another mop only successor to the M6. Add the front camera of J7+ and vibration mop pad. Plus have it lift as well. With my M6, I had to remove all the transitions in my house, and just put down black Gorilla tape for the M6 to go over. Even then the M6 likes to ram into corners and things. Even my J7+ for some reason always likes to touch corners when it goes around them and bumps them, instead of clearly avoiding them when going back home. I've tried mapping a dozen times and over a dozen runs and the J7+ still loves to touch up against corners, and lights it light. Like it's still trying to learn.
I recently bought the J7+ and I wonder what happens when dustbag is full. I can't find anything in manual. Does anyone know please?
I mean, isn't it just dragging a wet rag around when mopping? Is this really where the level of iRobot's innovation is atm? I would've thought RoboRock et al with their vibrating/rotating mops etc would absolutely demolish this stone-age design in comparison tests?
Same thought exactly. I had roborock.s7 without the dock. Manually cleaning the mop is a hassle. Now with the dock it cleans it every 15 minutes. That's the real game changer.
Too many unknown factors involved for us to guess with intuition (similar to how he determines roombas clean carpets a little better, even though they have less suction). This is why we need testing, to find out if what we “think” should be true, actually is.
I believe it pushes the mop pad into the floor and then will move forward and back like the Braava 380 does. It also can add solution and water. Might be heated too, but idk.
True. But no different than using a Swiffer.
I have the m6 however and I almost exclusively use it to dry mop after my S9 or J7 finishes. I think that's the best benefit of the mops rather than the wet mopping.
Totally agree. The J7+ is total crap, I returned mine within days and bought a Ecovacs TruDetect and its way better.
Roborock has the best navigation and all round they're the best robots you can get.
Was waiting for this!
great to hear! Thank you!
Planning to do a top 5 robot vacuum 2022 video?
My regular j7 now lets you “check in” with the robot via its camera and drive it around and look around, poor visibility in low light but wanted to add this update to the unit.