Not having auto mop cleaning is a deal killer for me. Not having to change the mop pad everyday is an option I cannot live without now that I have it on my Roborock. I have the Braava Jet and would have to change the mop pad every day and fill it up.
I find my S7 mop cleaner a mess. With pets I have to constantly have to take things apart and clean it all. I end up changing mop pads each time and throwing in the laundry because they stink otherwise and get hard. That said, navigation is second to none.
The Roborock as well as some other brands also have the the round spinning mop pads, which I think is better than the stationary one this has. Correct me if I am wrong.
@@gamerwhiz6847 It really depends on the design. I have an old Samsung mop that had heads that spun. It was worst and cleaning and left swirl marks everywhere.
I actually agree with them. When you have a full house and pets, I feel like the parts of the machine that don't get tented to often can be really gross and cause problems
@@VacuumWarsI have 3 very fluffy big dogs. I’m torn between this one & dreame l20 ultra. Can you please do a video comparing them or just which one would you choose for lots of hair and mud ? 🙏🙏🙏
iRobot seems to be dragging behind and stays behind, BUT I do have a J7+ as one of my vacs and even with its lower suction power it still is a very effective vacuum cleaner that just works without ever complaining. It runs in the 100sqm second part of my house daily and does a damn good job.
J series is actually pretty good. I don't know if I would say they're "behind". It's not as quick as your typical LIDAR robot, but the VSLAM camera and floor tracker algorithm has improved substantially since the 900 series line of Roomba robots. The i7 navigation was a noticeable improvement to the 900 series and the J series seems to be in a class above both predecessors. I've tried and used pretty much everything Roomba. I would agree with you if they stuck with the older hardware from the "I" series, but I just got a new J9+ (non combo) sample and I've been fairly impressed after using LIDAR exclusively for the past few years. My complaint for J7 and below is going to be the weaker motor.. Same was true for i7 and sub models though. Was weaker than both 960/980 on certain types of carpets, but generally "good enough" and better than most Chinese stuff for deep clean. The J9+ models more or less solves this conundrum, but they're also overpriced in the same fashion.. :D I guess we can argue that they're behind on mopping, but I do think the algorithm used by IRobot is a bit more logical with a simpler system. My only real complaint is MSRP prices. I would say both J9's need to be cheaper.
@@rudy4434 It is pretty aggressive, but have not seen any damage as such. Of the three robot vacs I've had, it is however the one that has given the least issues. iRobot still uses that SLAM (camera) technology that is old and original mapping of your area takes time to set up. You have to be patient with the first two runs. Once it has the map, the robot just always works. The other thing I can complain about, is the battery life. Where it runs now (100sqm area) it is fine. When it was my primary in the main house, it could not complete the full house on a charge. The charge and resume works perfect though. So in summary, I am happy with it, it is very reliable, like I say, it just always works. I clean it about once a month. The biggest gripe for me is the price. I personally believe that they are totally overpriced for what you get.
@@rudy4434 It still relies on the bump sensors for navigation, the camera is for obstacle avoidance and figuring out where it is in general. It constantly bumps into objects and corners to find their exact location. For the most part it is a gentle tap, the j7 slows down considerably on approach. Every now and again it does hit something going 'full tilt', especially in heavily cluttered areas like around a kitchen table with all the chair legs. I added some fuzzy velcro tape to the bumper and it basically eliminates the bump sound as well as the risk of leaving scrape marks on things.
The only thing lacking in these tests are the noise decibels made by the robots. How noisy is it compared to others? That is an important factor for me. Some also tend to make more noise with time.
If you had to choose between iRobot Roomba Combo j9+ Or Roborock S8 Pro Ultra So what would you choose? it must be good for dog hair as we have a golden retriever
You have to wait till other manufacturers patent expires or reach agreement, else irobot cannot have those including laser top and front. That’s why irobot has so limited so far, sticking to slow camera navigation. Irobot even sued shark for patent infringement till now, where sharing tech is not welcome. So for now stay on dust vacuuming like Dyson.
I'd be interested to know how big of a area was used to test the mapping timing. I got the Roomba S9 with the auto-empty doc for my very large main floor of my house and I could only get it to finish mapping once by blocking off a large room of my house (it took over 7 hours!). Even then the map eventually degraded with navigation errors to the point it was unusable and after multiple attempts I couldn't get it to re-map. So I moved it to a smaller floor of the house and got a roborock S7 Max V and it finished the mapping under 1-2 hours (didn't time it) with just some minor errors due to the window. Since then I noticed the roborock is much faster and better at navigating the house then the roomba ever was and I've basically written off roomba's vision mapping system until there is some sort of major improvement because even on the smaller floor it gets lost easier and takes much longer to navigate.
Also have a big house, got the Roomba J7+. Has been a nightmare with maps degrading, rooms being collapsed randomly, doors appearing where there arent doors. Once the map degraded to such a point, that we had to reset and have it remap which ended up taking 2 days of work. Only if Roomba switches to lidar which properly measures distance will i EVER consider buying them again. Roomba's keep out zones are also, due to the poor navigation very unrealiable and needs to be like 1½-2 times larger than they should need to be. Our Roomba J7+ have several times munched on our curtains (keep out zones) and ran into the bathing area from where it cant get out (despite MASSIVE keep out zones around them).
I actually agree with them about the self cleaning. When you have a full house and pets, I feel like the parts of the machine that don't get tended to regularly can often be really gross and cause problems. that little area below the self cleaning zone is going to collect litter sprinkles, skin particles, food waste, and fur. I believe that one of the reasons why our little entry-level Roomba has worked so well for so long is because I have to tend to it every time it runs. And don’t tell me the argument that it’s lame because you have to manage it. I’m still not the one personally vacuuming the whole house every day 😂
@@hsedecanter Even my old Narwal t10 doesn't have an issue with stinky water as long as you empty it within a day or so of it cleaning. Its an excuse and Roomba/irobot absolutely needs to bring it to the market like all of their main competitors already have
@@robotbro7187 There isn’t a sanitary solution that currently exists to even point to. One user mentioned emptying the dirty water container daily - you’d need to clean it daily, too. The area at the bottom of the cleaning station is still messy, as well. That doesn’t strike me as a better solution than what is offered here.
With Black Friday deals coming up, what would you recommend? Based on current pricing, I am debating the combo J9+ (discussed in this video) and the roborock Q Revo. Any thoughts?
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Please compare it to Roomba S9+ with Braava m6 combo. Will those 2 do a better job than the J9+ ? Is it worth it getting 2 in 1 unit like that or is better to have the vaucume and mop separate? Thanks
The down sides you mentioned on the j9+ are the ones Switchbot S10 claims to do better than the competition. I would say a comparisson is in order, no? I am quite curious about the Switchbot as I use other of their products and they are somewhat good. Have you considered it already?
i have a question regarding the mop will it auto lift and clean the whole rug or will it just deploy and lift it constantly going in lines thus making the cleaning cycle longer and shortening the life of the motor?
I'm glad that roomba robot vac tries to be more competitive in market! Also i want to know about new budget roborock q8 max + it's vacuum ability looks good in budget range ,so i want that review to!😊
This is what I'm waiting for! I think the L20 Ultra will win it. I had never heard of them before don't a review on this channel and then saw a related review from Singapore. 👀 I'm sure it'll be up soon!
Hi I wanted to ask with all the models you have tested which is the best vacuum for hardwood floors and has the longest and best warranty. I liked this one and it would have been worth 1400 but with only 1 year warranty that’s not a sound investment.
How long does the water last in the robot before it needs replacing? If you have to swap the mop every run anyway, is it that much more conveninent that it auto fills the water? Eg if you’re considering between this and the much more affordable J7+ where that is the main difference
I was wondering the same thing. However, it then occurred to me that the water reservoir in the J7+ might not be large enough to fully mop some homes. In that case, the owner would have to manually refill the water mid-cleaning every time. With the J9+, the roomba would refill itself and then resume mopping from where it paused. That is a very convenient improvement for some buyers. How much square footage can the J7's reservoir cover?
@@jcc019 from a PC world review “With a full tank, the Roomba Combo j7+ can mop up to 1,000 square feet.” Another says 210ml/7.1oz I assume thats single pass. so I can probably do twice a week and swap the pad after the weekend along with refilling. Think that could work ok
@@MrKlawUK Believe me you dont want to left dirty mop in the robot vacuum if you don't have auto clean and dry dock, even now I replace the mop 4 times every time I clean my house, dragging dirty mop all over your house is one of the worse decision you will ever made .
Guys, what are the differences between this one and the S9+ in terms of avoiding objects? I’ve seen on the website S9 avoid obstacles (=objets???) >2.5cm . That’s shoes but not wires for example?
When are you releasing reviews on the DreameBot L20 Ultra and the Ecovacs Deebot X2 Omni? I'm on the market for a new robot vacuum and until iRobot starts adding LIDAR to their robots I won't even bother to try them out.
Good luck on terming it to actually refill. I am on my second dock in 1 month. The first one couldn’t recognize that the water canister was full. This one just doesn’t fill the robot with water. It goes through the motion but doesn’t actually fill up the robots tank.
iRobot's mopping is still the best, I had some black dirty dot from shoe that stick on the floor, the j7+ & the m6 are the only one that can clean it off, my s8 couldn't do it; however, the mapping is really outdated and slower, if they can use LiDAR like others it will be much better, this combo just comes little too late 😟
Robots mopping fearure is mainly for static debris and mild stains. For real cleaning jobs use hand held devices like bisell or osotek h200 smthng like that. Shinebot w455 from ilife is closest system designed to deal with real mess .
How is the J9 on highly patterned carpets? That has been a problem in the past. What about small step or half step detection, my older roomba would drop off the ledge and get stuck.
I was very close to buying this model, but I decided to save my money and went for the i5+ instead. I've been happy with it so far, but do kinda wish I spent the extra coin lol
Great video as always! I truly appreciate the time and effort you invest in creating each one. Your unique individual tests and unwavering consistency make your videos a must-watch. I do have a request for future robot vacuum tests. It would be immensely helpful to see a test focusing on how robot vacuums interact with hardwood floors that are more prone to scratching. Personally, I have Bella Cera flooring in my home, and the warranty information specifically advises against using robot vacuums with beater bars or rotating brushes. I'm really interested in incorporating a robot vacuum into my cleaning routine, but I'm concerned about potential damage to my floors. Your insights and testing could provide valuable guidance for many of us facing the same dilemma. Thanks for considering this suggestion, and keep up the fantastic work!
Believe me mopping your house manually not much different or even worse than robot vacuum as the pressure you put by manually mop is times greater that robot mop will ever do, the only concern you will ever encounter is streaking mark because robot mop keep doing the same motion, this is the same with wet and dry vacuum.
The lack of self wash was a bummer to hear.... I'm curious if their argument really stands on the whole "your dock will get disgusting." is that true from others who have self washing docks?
It's just an excuse made by them from the CEO of iRobot. This features is a MUST! right now. For now better wait for their next lineup about this issue.
I love your work and how thorough it is. Could you please make a video on some normal detergent that goes into those device. They all claim that their soap is the only one that works, and like cars most of the time you can get an equivalent of what you need just fine. For instance the ecovac soap had a cancerous and procreation warning label. It would be great to see if normal no residuefloor cleaner i can buy a walmart would do just fine without breaking the 2000$ robot.
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I’m ok with not washing the mop pad. We do a wash once a week of cloths used for wiping/cleaning so we can throw these in with that, all we need is enough spares to get us through the week
@vacuumwars did you test on multiple floor types? My concrete style kitchen floor it can't mop. The wheels lose traction and it slips and slides everywhere and goes in circles. It got all messy under the rollers due to that. I put it on "Eco" mode and using diluted Bona solution that comes already mixed in the bottle. Even on Eco, the wheels slip. My M6 never slips. This J9 is useless if it can't mop my kitchen. When I send it home and it lifts up the mop pad, it takes off. So the mop pad as well as the wheels slipping is hindering it from moving properly. Tried new dry mop pads and cleaned wheels. Same issue.
This starts to feel more like a paid add than a high quality review we used to see🥲. No mention of how it compares to S9 in vacuuming or other areas. No comparison to other top of the line mop combo vacuums like RR S8 Pro Ultra, Q-revo or others. Frankly, the point of REVIEWS is not to list out all the ”good stuff”, but compare it critically to other options on the market and highlight it’s strengths, weaknesses and differences between the products. Especially on a market as difficult for the average consumer to understand as this.
Will you test new robot vacuums that can automatically remove dirty water and refill fresh one? I mean robots that can be connected to your home pipes and are fully automated (except changing dirty bags) like: Dreame X20/X30 Ultra (Plus), Roborock P10 Pro, Ecovacs Deebot X1 PRO and maybe other robots that exists or will be on the market soon (Switchbot S10)?
Hi, in your tests about robot vacuums, can you test how hard they bump against obstacles? I had to return a previous Roomba model because it bumped really hard against chairs and walls, while my Ecovacs is so much gentler. I think it’s related to the LiDAR, but I think this is a very relevant aspect! Thanks.
We are putting our finishing touches on our next Best Robot Vacuum competition video now and it should be ready for this Friday. We will talk about a lot of pros and cons there!
I recently bought this and it's biggest issue is that it randomly begins cleaning on it's own without me starting it. Not sure if it's a software glitch or mine is just defective, but it's confusing. Other than that, it does a great job at what it's supposed to do.
Something essential is missing from the test. All the dirt that's in the dirty water tank of the other models will essentially just be spread around the floor with the j9+. There is no way that small mop can hold that much dirt. I'm not sure how much it matters that its able to better clean in a very limited space when the mop will quickly become saturated. Basically defeats the whole purpose
My thoughts exactly and I cannot believe people gloss over this flaw. You cannot mop a dirty kitchen floor with a small rag that is NEVER rinsed clean.
@@bluehannah8696 If you're not rinsing out your swiffer multiple times as you go you're just spreading an even layer of dirt while picking up a fraction. Same reason you rinse your cloth & turn it over as you go while wiping surfaces.
It is not an issue. Cleaning base that cleans the mop once per week is way better than having to wash the mop pad yourself. I don't trust this review. It seems like a paid ad.
@@BudgetGamerz Nah, a 90C spin in the washing machine is much easier, or 60, or even 40 if you don't care too much about sanitization. But considering your nametag I will make the bold assumption that you don't do laundry. I do agree tho that self cleaning systems are much cooler and in theory more automatic (edit) I noticed my comment were rather rude, sorry about that. All I meant to say is that I'm skeptical if the self cleaning gets up to 60 degrees
@@shirazoul But put the dirty mop directly on top of your robot vacuum sanitary? even if I have self cleaning vacuum I will wash my robot mop every cleaning run but unlike my current robot I need to clean 1 mop instead of 4 , and people really let their robot to use 1 mop to clean the whole house?
I wish you’d review the maintenance and how easily those rollers clog with pet hair. Especially the whisker and Omni wheel. I hate my j7+ and don’t see that this version is any better after using it for a year.
Glad he brought up the pad self cleaning because thats a feature i must have for the price roomba is asking for Ill be honest, roomba is effectively playing catchup right now and still not on par with the other high ends
The J9+ vacuum is epic - just a vacuum demon on carpet, the mop on uneven wood floors is kinda hit and miss. The pad is good but I wish it was a little bit more bushy to mop an area with a 3-4mm variance as the vacuum goes over it. Otherwise it just takes 2 passes. My wood floors have some fluctuation. I gotta say this things computer is awesome. Just need to give it a few days to learn then its golden. But the J9+ is great. My spouse comes home after work just impressed how the new houses floors are so clean since we have no time to do it lately. I had boxes from our old house in my office and the J9 would see that but when I moved them and cleaned my office it noticed there was new floor space and re-mapped on the fly accordingly. Now my lab's like to follow it around and I do get notifications of obstacles and get pictures on my phone of my dogs staring at it lol the J9 just stops and stares at them until they move out of the way.
Tried a knockoff of a roomba, impressed with the work done. less impressed with the app and everything else. Am going to get a good one! Am wondering if your team has done a comparison between a standalone mop vs a combo unit? ie: J9+ combo vs BraavaJet m6 + Roomba S9+. Separate device is significantly more cost effective. Do the dedicated mops do a better job or nah? any big reason not to go separate?
i have given up on roombas. after about five years and seven devices in multiple locations, we switched to shark. the wear components (the rollers and the side brush) need to be replaced monthly. otherwise, the roombas are great for about a year, and then things start wearing out, like the wheels. when that happens, you are either replacing the entire unit, or wheel modules at $100 per wheel. if you purchase a roomba, pay for whomever's maintenance agreement is being offered, because you're going to need it. note that if you do buy a maintenance agreement, it is only good for that one robot, so once you have to get it replaced, under the warranty, you have to buy the warranty, again.
My pick is still the s8 ultra simply because of the self cleaning mop. I love how it stops midway to clean the mop so it’s not just dragging around a dirty pad
I know this is a long shot. Does anyone know how long it is supposed to take to recharge the J9+? Mine is taking over 5 hours from dead to full. Irobot is telling me that is not normal and has already replaced parts but will not charge faster. I put it on a "Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor" and it never goes over 24w of charging power. Any Ideas or experiences would be appreciated.
Thanks for the review and you did a great job there! So I bought the J9+ because it has the mop feature that I wanted. This replaces the existing Roomba 965. What I don't get is irobot managed to (or more like the synic in me says) re-introduce the dreaded non-reusable dust bag back into hoovering! Why?! Now these will go into landfills and yet these organisations will shamelessly tell us they care about the planet and are cutting this, that, what-not-so-forth, but wait a minute, now you need to buy dust bags! whoopie-do! Which genius in their design or product management team thought that was a great idea?
4:57 Honestly, I've had my Roborock for almost two years now, and my dock has never looked anything like that. iRobot and others who let their docks get that dirty are just being lazy. Even though I have the dock, I still do some upkeep on it every week or every other week. Just because you've got a mop-washing dock doesn't mean you can skip out on maintenance. It just means you've got a bit more time before you need to get around to it.
Can you please make a review of the 1943 Roomba. It is so awesome, it can even clean 85% in a 25ft radius in a meer second. There are only a few cons it is a little heavy and it might be a little loud. To activate it all you have to is step on it or put something on it. ❤❤❤
Is this still VSLAM not LIDAR? Maybe it's an issue seen more in UK homes where the ceilings on older homes can be more complicated - higher ceilings with irregular borders and fancy covings - but my experience with the Roomba i7+ was a disaster. It seemed to create a complete and accurate initial map and from then on cleaned the front of my apartment OK but I began to refer to my bedrooms as "the rooms of no return" because whenever it entered any of those rooms to clean it never once - and I literally mean not once out of over 50 attempts and about 5 re-mappings - made it back to the docking station. It would get hopefully lost and after an hour or so I would go and rescue it and find it was in a totally different room in my home to where it thought it was. It simply had no idea how to navigate back to the dock. Because of my terrible experiences with VSLAM navigation however good a new Roomba looks (and this one does look very good) I would never consider buying one until iRobot switches to Lidar navigation.
I have a one or two inch tall ledge that my 600 series gets stuck on constantly. If I upgrade to one with a camera will it be able to avoid it or is it too short for any of them to notice?
I’m not sure whether it will notice the ledge but the technologies improved so much it can easily get itself unstuck or learn to avoid that area. If you want to upgrade I would recommend iRobot because even though it doesn’t have some features like auto mop washing it does such a better job at cleaning efficiently and without errors. A lot of other companies just rush out new features like the mop washing and stuff when they’re not ready.
I am not sure about the lack of mop cleaning. On one hand an almost self sufficient robot is rempting, on the other hand Roomba's criticism does make some sense and swapping the mop (if easy enough) might not be that big of a deal.
Any thoughts on noise comparison of the J7’s self empty base and the J9’s? Many reviews say J7’s sounds like a jet engine and apparently J9’s is quieter. But haven’t seen anything online as to how much quieter.
Good review. It will be interesting to see how competitors respond with future products. A previous comment states that iRobot has been purchased by Amazon. If so, it's a deal killer as the Roomba has a camera.
lol, Amazon has to demonstrate compliance with the EU GDPR and various us state provisions on privacy and data collection. Chinese companies are literally being paid to collect US data.
iRobot Roomba Combo j9+ at Amazon: geni.us/PmI3c
So not sure which one to get the L20 ultra dreame or I9 Roomba 😅
Want more suction power 🔋 not to worried about mopping -
Ok
The first robot vacuum to climb stairs will be my next upgrade
it looks like this might be a possibility soon! ua-cam.com/video/kCKN8k-OFG8/v-deo.html
@@VacuumWarsThat is totally crazy🙌🏼
Daleks need this!
i can't wait for first robot vacuum that provides personal intimate vacuum sevices.
I'm so grateful that you are back. I find your voice soothing and comfortable for me to listen to.
Thank you! 😊
@@VacuumWarsBETTER THAN AI NARRATORS.
Not having auto mop cleaning is a deal killer for me. Not having to change the mop pad everyday is an option I cannot live without now that I have it on my Roborock. I have the Braava Jet and would have to change the mop pad every day and fill it up.
I find my S7 mop cleaner a mess. With pets I have to constantly have to take things apart and clean it all. I end up changing mop pads each time and throwing in the laundry because they stink otherwise and get hard. That said, navigation is second to none.
The Roborock as well as some other brands also have the the round spinning mop pads, which I think is better than the stationary one this has. Correct me if I am wrong.
@@gamerwhiz6847 It really depends on the design. I have an old Samsung mop that had heads that spun. It was worst and cleaning and left swirl marks everywhere.
@@bugs3081 Thanks for sharing.
You only need to fill up the J9's base once a month. It carry's like over a gallon of liquid.
Love the review, but had me dying at 3:18 common household objects ,dodges large poop on the floor 😂 I pray my household never becomes common
When i was little i used to watch you i FINALLY found this channel Again😁
Glad you found us again!! Welcome back!
I actually agree with them. When you have a full house and pets, I feel like the parts of the machine that don't get tented to often can be really gross and cause problems
@@VacuumWarsI have 3 very fluffy big dogs. I’m torn between this one & dreame l20 ultra. Can you please do a video comparing them or just which one would you choose for lots of hair and mud ? 🙏🙏🙏
iRobot seems to be dragging behind and stays behind, BUT I do have a J7+ as one of my vacs and even with its lower suction power it still is a very effective vacuum cleaner that just works without ever complaining. It runs in the 100sqm second part of my house daily and does a damn good job.
J series is actually pretty good. I don't know if I would say they're "behind".
It's not as quick as your typical LIDAR robot, but the VSLAM camera and floor tracker algorithm has improved substantially since the 900 series line of Roomba robots.
The i7 navigation was a noticeable improvement to the 900 series and the J series seems to be in a class above both predecessors. I've tried and used pretty much everything Roomba.
I would agree with you if they stuck with the older hardware from the "I" series, but I just got a new J9+ (non combo) sample and I've been fairly impressed after using LIDAR exclusively for the past few years.
My complaint for J7 and below is going to be the weaker motor.. Same was true for i7 and sub models though.
Was weaker than both 960/980 on certain types of carpets, but generally "good enough" and better than most Chinese stuff for deep clean.
The J9+ models more or less solves this conundrum, but they're also overpriced in the same fashion.. :D
I guess we can argue that they're behind on mopping, but I do think the algorithm used by IRobot is a bit more logical with a simpler system.
My only real complaint is MSRP prices. I would say both J9's need to be cheaper.
I heard the J7+ hits things a lot, how do you experience that? Does it bump into things a lot?
@@rudy4434 It is pretty aggressive, but have not seen any damage as such. Of the three robot vacs I've had, it is however the one that has given the least issues. iRobot still uses that SLAM (camera) technology that is old and original mapping of your area takes time to set up. You have to be patient with the first two runs. Once it has the map, the robot just always works.
The other thing I can complain about, is the battery life. Where it runs now (100sqm area) it is fine. When it was my primary in the main house, it could not complete the full house on a charge. The charge and resume works perfect though.
So in summary, I am happy with it, it is very reliable, like I say, it just always works. I clean it about once a month. The biggest gripe for me is the price. I personally believe that they are totally overpriced for what you get.
Mine died a few weeks after the warranty expired. I’m done with them. It was great while it was alive though.
@@rudy4434 It still relies on the bump sensors for navigation, the camera is for obstacle avoidance and figuring out where it is in general. It constantly bumps into objects and corners to find their exact location. For the most part it is a gentle tap, the j7 slows down considerably on approach. Every now and again it does hit something going 'full tilt', especially in heavily cluttered areas like around a kitchen table with all the chair legs. I added some fuzzy velcro tape to the bumper and it basically eliminates the bump sound as well as the risk of leaving scrape marks on things.
The only thing lacking in these tests are the noise decibels made by the robots. How noisy is it compared to others? That is an important factor for me. Some also tend to make more noise with time.
I have this one. It's very loud. My kids sometimes wake up due to the noise at night.
Are you finding a loud sound from the spinning brush? That spinning brush is significantly louder than the vacuum itself... that can't be by design...
If you had to choose between iRobot Roomba Combo j9+ Or Roborock S8 Pro Ultra So what would you choose? it must be good for dog hair as we have a golden retriever
What about a wet mop after it docks? I noticed how quickly other manufacturers started including heat drying for wet mop pads.
no solution to the dirty mop pad for IRobot
You have to wait till other manufacturers patent expires or reach agreement, else irobot cannot have those including laser top and front. That’s why irobot has so limited so far, sticking to slow camera navigation. Irobot even sued shark for patent infringement till now, where sharing tech is not welcome.
So for now stay on dust vacuuming like Dyson.
I'd be interested to know how big of a area was used to test the mapping timing. I got the Roomba S9 with the auto-empty doc for my very large main floor of my house and I could only get it to finish mapping once by blocking off a large room of my house (it took over 7 hours!). Even then the map eventually degraded with navigation errors to the point it was unusable and after multiple attempts I couldn't get it to re-map. So I moved it to a smaller floor of the house and got a roborock S7 Max V and it finished the mapping under 1-2 hours (didn't time it) with just some minor errors due to the window. Since then I noticed the roborock is much faster and better at navigating the house then the roomba ever was and I've basically written off roomba's vision mapping system until there is some sort of major improvement because even on the smaller floor it gets lost easier and takes much longer to navigate.
Also have a big house, got the Roomba J7+. Has been a nightmare with maps degrading, rooms being collapsed randomly, doors appearing where there arent doors. Once the map degraded to such a point, that we had to reset and have it remap which ended up taking 2 days of work. Only if Roomba switches to lidar which properly measures distance will i EVER consider buying them again.
Roomba's keep out zones are also, due to the poor navigation very unrealiable and needs to be like 1½-2 times larger than they should need to be. Our Roomba J7+ have several times munched on our curtains (keep out zones) and ran into the bathing area from where it cant get out (despite MASSIVE keep out zones around them).
I actually agree with them about the self cleaning. When you have a full house and pets, I feel like the parts of the machine that don't get tended to regularly can often be really gross and cause problems. that little area below the self cleaning zone is going to collect litter sprinkles, skin particles, food waste, and fur. I believe that one of the reasons why our little entry-level Roomba has worked so well for so long is because I have to tend to it every time it runs. And don’t tell me the argument that it’s lame because you have to manage it. I’m still not the one personally vacuuming the whole house every day 😂
I would love to see a head to head between the regular j9+ and the s9+!
One can mop the other one can’t
When they didn’t have mop combo, they said it’s a bad idea, and here we are. Can’t wait to see they eat their words again and add auto mop cleaning.
I don't think the engineering problem around stinky, dirty water storage and the gross aftermath of the mop pad cleaning solutions goes away easily.
@@hsedecanter Even my old Narwal t10 doesn't have an issue with stinky water as long as you empty it within a day or so of it cleaning. Its an excuse and Roomba/irobot absolutely needs to bring it to the market like all of their main competitors already have
prob didnt include it cause it would have added to costs, this thing already costs 1400 bucks
Got a source for that claim?
@@robotbro7187 There isn’t a sanitary solution that currently exists to even point to. One user mentioned emptying the dirty water container daily - you’d need to clean it daily, too. The area at the bottom of the cleaning station is still messy, as well. That doesn’t strike me as a better solution than what is offered here.
With Black Friday deals coming up, what would you recommend? Based on current pricing, I am debating the combo J9+ (discussed in this video) and the roborock Q Revo. Any thoughts?
We are putting our finishing touches on our next Best Robot Vacuum competition video now and it should be ready for this Friday. We will talk about a lot of pros and cons there!
Test the dreametech l20 ultra ?
Our Dreame L20 Ultra review comes out today at 4pm EST! Thank you for asking!
Auto mop washing is a MUST have nowadays
We are headed there now. There is one right now called Dreame L20 ULTRA.
@@j.p3701thx
The king of vacums ❤ . I love these videos . Some of the best on UA-cam
Thank you!
Please compare it to Roomba S9+ with Braava m6 combo. Will those 2 do a better job than the J9+ ? Is it worth it getting 2 in 1 unit like that or is better to have the vaucume and mop separate? Thanks
I was curious of this too
I have this exact combo but would like another for other level of our house and curious how this compares as a single unit
The Smart Scrub feature has been added also to the J7 Combo series through an update. I have one and can confirm it works perfectly.
it is not smart, it just scrub everywhere and use at least double time to clean
Well iRobot named that, no one to blame here :)
Who cares how long it takes if it actually produces cleaner results. I’m not doing the scrubbing.
@@DannyWyeah because it’s doing a deeper clean? Did you expect it to be a deeper clean and quicker? Also it’s barely an increase in time
What if there’s a wet stain is it going to vacuum it before it mops it ?
sucks into vacuum
@@DannyW that’s gross if you have a wet milk stain or something wet.
if you forget to attach the mopping pad after washing, does it still try to mop or it detects and just vacuum only instead?
Thanks for the review! Wish they would add LiDAR. Can you review the Eufy ultra Mach 1 steam mop??
The down sides you mentioned on the j9+ are the ones Switchbot S10 claims to do better than the competition. I would say a comparisson is in order, no? I am quite curious about the Switchbot as I use other of their products and they are somewhat good. Have you considered it already?
i have a question regarding the mop will it auto lift and clean the whole rug or will it just deploy and lift it constantly going in lines thus making the cleaning cycle longer and shortening the life of the motor?
Wish you could include sound levels in reviews and comparisons. Thanks.
I’m convinced, the fact that they thought about sanitation I’m sold
I love these machines. they are worth every penny.
We agree!
I'm glad that roomba robot vac tries to be more competitive in market! Also i want to know about new budget roborock q8 max + it's vacuum ability looks good in budget range ,so i want that review to!😊
Hi, can this be used on a 3 story house? Can you pick up and move just the vacuum to another floor?
Please do a comparison of this vs the Dreame L20 Ultra and the Roborock S8 pro ultra 🙏
This is what I'm waiting for! I think the L20 Ultra will win it. I had never heard of them before don't a review on this channel and then saw a related review from Singapore. 👀 I'm sure it'll be up soon!
Our Dreame L20 Ultra review comes out today at 4pm EST!
Excellent work and review!
Thank you!
Hi
I wanted to ask with all the models you have tested which is the best vacuum for hardwood floors and has the longest and best warranty. I liked this one and it would have been worth 1400 but with only 1 year warranty that’s not a sound investment.
Will you be doing a comparison between this and the new Roomba Combo 10?
which vacuum is best for real hard wood mopping? We have a cabin that has a simple design but holds a lot of dust in the cracks of the wood.
How long does the water last in the robot before it needs replacing? If you have to swap the mop every run anyway, is it that much more conveninent that it auto fills the water? Eg if you’re considering between this and the much more affordable J7+ where that is the main difference
I was wondering the same thing. However, it then occurred to me that the water reservoir in the J7+ might not be large enough to fully mop some homes. In that case, the owner would have to manually refill the water mid-cleaning every time. With the J9+, the roomba would refill itself and then resume mopping from where it paused. That is a very convenient improvement for some buyers. How much square footage can the J7's reservoir cover?
@@jcc019 good point and excellent question. Mr Wars - do you know how long the regular J7+ lasts before filling the tank?
@@jcc019 from a PC world review “With a full tank, the Roomba Combo j7+ can mop up to 1,000 square feet.” Another says 210ml/7.1oz I assume thats single pass. so I can probably do twice a week and swap the pad after the weekend along with refilling. Think that could work ok
@@MrKlawUK Believe me you dont want to left dirty mop in the robot vacuum if you don't have auto clean and dry dock, even now I replace the mop 4 times every time I clean my house, dragging dirty mop all over your house is one of the worse decision you will ever made .
Can't wait for the review of the new Combo 10
Does the fan spin too fast and explode into little pieces like the last $800 Roomba?
Great video. Does this work on black carpet ?
How about the batterie life ?
Is it quieter when running & emptying compared to prior models like the j7? That was one of iRobots marketing points.
I would love to see comparison of iroomba j9+ and roborock s8+
Same here
How is the vacumming / mopping on edges and corners? I didn't hear that mentioned or I missed it.
Guys, what are the differences between this one and the S9+ in terms of avoiding objects? I’ve seen on the website S9 avoid obstacles (=objets???) >2.5cm . That’s shoes but not wires for example?
Hmm, how about the vacuum empty noise dB? The last model makes a lot if noice when clearing the robot.
When are you releasing reviews on the DreameBot L20 Ultra and the Ecovacs Deebot X2 Omni? I'm on the market for a new robot vacuum and until iRobot starts adding LIDAR to their robots I won't even bother to try them out.
Our Dreame L20 Ultra review comes out today at 4pm EST!
Good luck on terming it to actually refill. I am on my second dock in 1 month. The first one couldn’t recognize that the water canister was full. This one just doesn’t fill the robot with water. It goes through the motion but doesn’t actually fill up the robots tank.
iRobot's mopping is still the best, I had some black dirty dot from shoe that stick on the floor, the j7+ & the m6 are the only one that can clean it off, my s8 couldn't do it; however, the mapping is really outdated and slower, if they can use LiDAR like others it will be much better, this combo just comes little too late 😟
Robots mopping fearure is mainly for static debris and mild stains. For real cleaning jobs use hand held devices like bisell or osotek h200 smthng like that. Shinebot w455 from ilife is closest system designed to deal with real mess .
How is the J9 on highly patterned carpets? That has been a problem in the past. What about small step or half step detection, my older roomba would drop off the ledge and get stuck.
I was very close to buying this model, but I decided to save my money and went for the i5+ instead. I've been happy with it so far, but do kinda wish I spent the extra coin lol
Can you do a comparison between this and Roborock S7 Ultra and S8 Pro price is pretty comparable between these though
Great video as always! I truly appreciate the time and effort you invest in creating each one. Your unique individual tests and unwavering consistency make your videos a must-watch.
I do have a request for future robot vacuum tests. It would be immensely helpful to see a test focusing on how robot vacuums interact with hardwood floors that are more prone to scratching. Personally, I have Bella Cera flooring in my home, and the warranty information specifically advises against using robot vacuums with beater bars or rotating brushes.
I'm really interested in incorporating a robot vacuum into my cleaning routine, but I'm concerned about potential damage to my floors. Your insights and testing could provide valuable guidance for many of us facing the same dilemma. Thanks for considering this suggestion, and keep up the fantastic work!
Same concerns
Believe me mopping your house manually not much different or even worse than robot vacuum as the pressure you put by manually mop is times greater that robot mop will ever do, the only concern you will ever encounter is streaking mark because robot mop keep doing the same motion, this is the same with wet and dry vacuum.
@@anubizz3 Thank you for your allaying my concerns with your sensible reply.
The lack of self wash was a bummer to hear.... I'm curious if their argument really stands on the whole "your dock will get disgusting." is that true from others who have self washing docks?
It's just an excuse made by them from the CEO of iRobot.
This features is a MUST! right now. For now better wait for their next lineup about this issue.
Hi, would you opt for this or the Eufy X10 Pro Combi? I’d love a recommendation! Thanks
I love your work and how thorough it is. Could you please make a video on some normal detergent that goes into those device. They all claim that their soap is the only one that works, and like cars most of the time you can get an equivalent of what you need just fine. For instance the ecovac soap had a cancerous and procreation warning label. It would be great to see if normal no residuefloor cleaner i can buy a walmart would do just fine without breaking the 2000$ robot.
Is j9 better than s9+m6?
can you do a comparison with this one and the roborock ones?
We are putting our finishing touches on our next Best Robot Vacuum competition video now and it should be ready for this Friday. We will talk about a lot of pros and cons there!
Wow so excited!!! your content is absolutely amazing
@@VacuumWars
I’m ok with not washing the mop pad. We do a wash once a week of cloths used for wiping/cleaning so we can throw these in with that, all we need is enough spares to get us through the week
at least should launch one time mop pad
@vacuumwars did you test on multiple floor types? My concrete style kitchen floor it can't mop. The wheels lose traction and it slips and slides everywhere and goes in circles. It got all messy under the rollers due to that. I put it on "Eco" mode and using diluted Bona solution that comes already mixed in the bottle. Even on Eco, the wheels slip. My M6 never slips. This J9 is useless if it can't mop my kitchen. When I send it home and it lifts up the mop pad, it takes off. So the mop pad as well as the wheels slipping is hindering it from moving properly. Tried new dry mop pads and cleaned wheels. Same issue.
This starts to feel more like a paid add than a high quality review we used to see🥲. No mention of how it compares to S9 in vacuuming or other areas. No comparison to other top of the line mop combo vacuums like RR S8 Pro Ultra, Q-revo or others.
Frankly, the point of REVIEWS is not to list out all the ”good stuff”, but compare it critically to other options on the market and highlight it’s strengths, weaknesses and differences between the products. Especially on a market as difficult for the average consumer to understand as this.
Yes, the argumentation he used for justifying not including self cleaning mop pad is ridicules.
Will you test new robot vacuums that can automatically remove dirty water and refill fresh one? I mean robots that can be connected to your home pipes and are fully automated (except changing dirty bags) like: Dreame X20/X30 Ultra (Plus), Roborock P10 Pro, Ecovacs Deebot X1 PRO and maybe other robots that exists or will be on the market soon (Switchbot S10)?
We are looking into it, but it's not in the works at this time. Thank you for asking! We really appreciate suggestions.
Hi, in your tests about robot vacuums, can you test how hard they bump against obstacles? I had to return a previous Roomba model because it bumped really hard against chairs and walls, while my Ecovacs is so much gentler. I think it’s related to the LiDAR, but I think this is a very relevant aspect! Thanks.
I'm very interested in Swichbot S10,a robot vaccine with auto drain system. Please consider to make a video about it!🙏✨
How is the navigation? Still with camera only? Can it run in the dark?
So which would you recommend between this one and the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra?
We are putting our finishing touches on our next Best Robot Vacuum competition video now and it should be ready for this Friday. We will talk about a lot of pros and cons there!
@@VacuumWars looking forward to it!
I recently bought this and it's biggest issue is that it randomly begins cleaning on it's own without me starting it. Not sure if it's a software glitch or mine is just defective, but it's confusing. Other than that, it does a great job at what it's supposed to do.
We dont have one yet. Hopefully soon!
@@VacuumWars Which model you talking about you don't have?
@@VacuumWarsyou don't have which one?
@@WarpedTrekkerHe means the error issues that this guys are having right now.
Something essential is missing from the test. All the dirt that's in the dirty water tank of the other models will essentially just be spread around the floor with the j9+. There is no way that small mop can hold that much dirt. I'm not sure how much it matters that its able to better clean in a very limited space when the mop will quickly become saturated. Basically defeats the whole purpose
My thoughts exactly and I cannot believe people gloss over this flaw. You cannot mop a dirty kitchen floor with a small rag that is NEVER rinsed clean.
Every Swiffer out there?
iRobot is way behind any competitors right now. Better wait for their next future lineup about vacuum/map combo that doesn't suck.
@@bluehannah8696 If you're not rinsing out your swiffer multiple times as you go you're just spreading an even layer of dirt while picking up a fraction. Same reason you rinse your cloth & turn it over as you go while wiping surfaces.
Is this a bit way overkill for an apartment?
Fantastic review as always. Might be worth making a dedicated video to go over just how reasonable the self cleaning mop sanitary issue is.
It is not an issue. Cleaning base that cleans the mop once per week is way better than having to wash the mop pad yourself.
I don't trust this review. It seems like a paid ad.
@@BudgetGamerz Nah, a 90C spin in the washing machine is much easier, or 60, or even 40 if you don't care too much about sanitization. But considering your nametag I will make the bold assumption that you don't do laundry. I do agree tho that self cleaning systems are much cooler and in theory more automatic
(edit) I noticed my comment were rather rude, sorry about that. All I meant to say is that I'm skeptical if the self cleaning gets up to 60 degrees
@@shirazoul you wash your mop in your washing machine? Mr Sanitation 🤣
@@shirazoul But put the dirty mop directly on top of your robot vacuum sanitary? even if I have self cleaning vacuum I will wash my robot mop every cleaning run but unlike my current robot I need to clean 1 mop instead of 4 , and people really let their robot to use 1 mop to clean the whole house?
Interesting! Thanks!
I wish you’d review the maintenance and how easily those rollers clog with pet hair. Especially the whisker and Omni wheel. I hate my j7+ and don’t see that this version is any better after using it for a year.
My main gripe is that when the tires wear out, you have to replace the whole wheel assembly. That is quite expensive.
Glad he brought up the pad self cleaning because thats a feature i must have for the price roomba is asking for
Ill be honest, roomba is effectively playing catchup right now and still not on par with the other high ends
How does this compare to the Roborock s7 or s8 ultra max?
Ecovacs X2 Omni Review?
Soon!
@@VacuumWars great! Looking forward to it. Thanks
@@VacuumWars Very excited for that one, I'm comparing the J9+ and Omni X2
Need an X2 review.. its my number interest right now
Would love to hear if you would recommend the roborock s8 or this one since it seems you enjoy both
The J9+ vacuum is epic - just a vacuum demon on carpet, the mop on uneven wood floors is kinda hit and miss. The pad is good but I wish it was a little bit more bushy to mop an area with a 3-4mm variance as the vacuum goes over it. Otherwise it just takes 2 passes. My wood floors have some fluctuation. I gotta say this things computer is awesome. Just need to give it a few days to learn then its golden. But the J9+ is great. My spouse comes home after work just impressed how the new houses floors are so clean since we have no time to do it lately. I had boxes from our old house in my office and the J9 would see that but when I moved them and cleaned my office it noticed there was new floor space and re-mapped on the fly accordingly. Now my lab's like to follow it around and I do get notifications of obstacles and get pictures on my phone of my dogs staring at it lol the J9 just stops and stares at them until they move out of the way.
Tried a knockoff of a roomba, impressed with the work done. less impressed with the app and everything else. Am going to get a good one! Am wondering if your team has done a comparison between a standalone mop vs a combo unit? ie: J9+ combo vs BraavaJet m6 + Roomba S9+. Separate device is significantly more cost effective. Do the dedicated mops do a better job or nah? any big reason not to go separate?
So what is the cfm number for this J9+ ?
i have given up on roombas. after about five years and seven devices in multiple locations, we switched to shark. the wear components (the rollers and the side brush) need to be replaced monthly. otherwise, the roombas are great for about a year, and then things start wearing out, like the wheels. when that happens, you are either replacing the entire unit, or wheel modules at $100 per wheel.
if you purchase a roomba, pay for whomever's maintenance agreement is being offered, because you're going to need it. note that if you do buy a maintenance agreement, it is only good for that one robot, so once you have to get it replaced, under the warranty, you have to buy the warranty, again.
My pick is still the s8 ultra simply because of the self cleaning mop. I love how it stops midway to clean the mop so it’s not just dragging around a dirty pad
Yes, without a self-cleaning mop, the vacuum just drags around dirt.
I know this is a long shot. Does anyone know how long it is supposed to take to recharge the J9+? Mine is taking over 5 hours from dead to full. Irobot is telling me that is not normal and has already replaced parts but will not charge faster. I put it on a "Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor" and it never goes over 24w of charging power. Any Ideas or experiences would be appreciated.
3h
Hard to find any information on how the Costco Model version of this called the "j9+ Max" differs.
Thank you for this awesome review.
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Thanks for the review and you did a great job there!
So I bought the J9+ because it has the mop feature that I wanted. This replaces the existing Roomba 965. What I don't get is irobot managed to (or more like the synic in me says) re-introduce the dreaded non-reusable dust bag back into hoovering! Why?! Now these will go into landfills and yet these organisations will shamelessly tell us they care about the planet and are cutting this, that, what-not-so-forth, but wait a minute, now you need to buy dust bags! whoopie-do! Which genius in their design or product management team thought that was a great idea?
Dear Vacuum Wars,
Have you tried the mainland Dreame models?
4:57 Honestly, I've had my Roborock for almost two years now, and my dock has never looked anything like that. iRobot and others who let their docks get that dirty are just being lazy. Even though I have the dock, I still do some upkeep on it every week or every other week. Just because you've got a mop-washing dock doesn't mean you can skip out on maintenance. It just means you've got a bit more time before you need to get around to it.
but if i dont have internet at home,just the phone connection,still can i use the robot?
Nice j9+ 🙏❤️
Can you please make a review of the 1943 Roomba. It is so awesome, it can even clean 85% in a 25ft radius in a meer second. There are only a few cons it is a little heavy and it might be a little loud. To activate it all you have to is step on it or put something on it. ❤❤❤
Will you be reviewing the Dreame L20 any time soon?
Our Dreame L20 Ultra review comes out today at 4pm EST!
Is this still VSLAM not LIDAR?
Maybe it's an issue seen more in UK homes where the ceilings on older homes can be more complicated - higher ceilings with irregular borders and fancy covings - but my experience with the Roomba i7+ was a disaster. It seemed to create a complete and accurate initial map and from then on cleaned the front of my apartment OK but I began to refer to my bedrooms as "the rooms of no return" because whenever it entered any of those rooms to clean it never once - and I literally mean not once out of over 50 attempts and about 5 re-mappings - made it back to the docking station. It would get hopefully lost and after an hour or so I would go and rescue it and find it was in a totally different room in my home to where it thought it was. It simply had no idea how to navigate back to the dock.
Because of my terrible experiences with VSLAM navigation however good a new Roomba looks (and this one does look very good) I would never consider buying one until iRobot switches to Lidar navigation.
I have a one or two inch tall ledge that my 600 series gets stuck on constantly. If I upgrade to one with a camera will it be able to avoid it or is it too short for any of them to notice?
I’m not sure whether it will notice the ledge but the technologies improved so much it can easily get itself unstuck or learn to avoid that area. If you want to upgrade I would recommend iRobot because even though it doesn’t have some features like auto mop washing it does such a better job at cleaning efficiently and without errors. A lot of other companies just rush out new features like the mop washing and stuff when they’re not ready.
I am not sure about the lack of mop cleaning.
On one hand an almost self sufficient robot is rempting, on the other hand Roomba's criticism does make some sense and swapping the mop (if easy enough) might not be that big of a deal.
Does it have lidar finally?
@vacuumwars Why cant i find how much Pascals (Pa) is this vacuum, can you please share - Thanks
is there a way to get the spreadsheet so i can filter by feature and price range?
Any thoughts on noise comparison of the J7’s self empty base and the J9’s? Many reviews say J7’s sounds like a jet engine and apparently J9’s is quieter. But haven’t seen anything online as to how much quieter.
Video on Deebot x2 omni?
Good review. It will be interesting to see how competitors respond with future products.
A previous comment states that iRobot has been purchased by Amazon. If so, it's a deal killer as the Roomba has a camera.
lol, Amazon has to demonstrate compliance with the EU GDPR and various us state provisions on privacy and data collection. Chinese companies are literally being paid to collect US data.
@@allenmoldovanLmao if you think US companies aren't doing the same at the behest of the US government you're a fool
@@allenmoldovanBased on the amount of crumbs under my barstools, the Chinese undoubtedly know I eat more pizza than I should. I’m OK with that.
Thank you kindly
How does it stack up vs the S9+?