In the deleted scene, there was supposed to be a family. The reason the spino continued to chase the humans is bc Cooper killed the baby. We all know how much of a troubled production jp3 had.
That's smart. And it makes sense. Two shots, two dino's dead. The roar we hear could;ve been a scream of defiance, or final death scream. He was attacked by the baby, mom and dad found them, tried to kill and sadly human won that battle and mom gave chase.@@zeger2766
@@MLPIceberg that never bothered me. The Spino had a mysterious presence to it and it was just so full on an aggressive. But like I said, it was more the prospect of being left behind while watching your own lifeline threatening to kill you. It was certain death either way. Of all the JP deaths, Cooper seemed the most terrified. His scream was blood curdling.
I love that "Oh My god!" As well, I thought as a kid he saw the Spinosaurus animatronic jump out of the forest for the first time and was genuine spooked
If you listen carefully to the scene, you can hear six gunshots. The gunshots sound like three pairs fired from three different rifles, I believe Nash and Udesky fired two rounds each as the first two pairs are in quick succession of each other with a slight pause between both pairs, and then Cooper fires two rounds for the third pair. I think the scene played out like this: "Cooper being the point man with his large calibre 'Iron Horn 20mm' rifle is walking several meters out in front of Nash and Udesky to recon the surrounding area. Cooper then stumbles across the Spinosaurus' nesting site. A juvenile catches Cooper by surprise as it charges towards him, he knows he won't be able to get his rifle up in time to fire a round, so he uses his rifle to shield himself as the juvenile crashes into him and pins him to the ground. Cooper is struggling to hold the juvenile away, but the juvenile manages to injure Cooper's left shoulder in the struggle. The adult roars after hearing the commotion and distress coming from her nesting site and starts making her way to her nest, just a few seconds before Nash and Udesky see Cooper struggling to fend of the juvenile Spinosaurus from a few meters away. With no time to run to their partner's aid both Nash and Udesky raise their rifles, (Nash using a Heckler & Koch SL8-1 and Udesky using a Steyr AUG A1) and fire two rounds each, hitting and injuring the juvenile as it staggers away. They spot the adult Spinosaurus making her way to her nest through their scopes. Both Nash and Udesky start sprinting back to the aircraft in fear and in realisation that they have to get the rest of the group on the aircraft, get it started and get it in the air. The adult Spinosaurus continues to close down the distance to her nest whilst letting loose another thunderous roar. Cooper quickly stands up and with effort raises his rifle as the juvenile staggers towards him, he fires two rounds at the injured juvenile and it collapses to the floor lifeless. Knowing the weight of his rifle will slow him down, he ditches his rifle, holds his injured arm and takes of running in the aircraft's direction."
I love this comment. However I'm skeptical that Cooper, being injured, actually hit anything. If anything, Udesky an Nash's shot killed the infant and Cooper missed his shots. Because let's be honest, just a single shot from that 20mm would have floored the adult Spino permanently. We were shown at the beginning of the movie what those rounds could do. If Cooper had hit the Spino, the movie would have ended with Cooper and company leaving in the plane.
@@derpasoruswrecks2773 yeahhhh like i know tlw isnt better than the first one BUT COME ON ITS MY FAVOURITE FOR A REASON, like its just perfect, down to the iconic lines, dino scenes, and plot
@@derpasoruswrecks2773also the only confusing thing about tlw is what killed the crew of the ss venture( its was velocoraptors and the rex killed them before a dieng crew member closed the cargo hold) whilst jp3 hasmamy, like why is sorna a jungle now, why is there a spino and such
I think he scratched his arm on a plant or something. It might have had a sharp branch he didn’t notice while running. And the way he stands still is just saying “just kill me already”. The fact that he can’t help but cry and accept it whilst being about to die for about 3 possible reasons chills me to the bone.
This also perfectly answers the question why the Spino was after the group so badly, he must have thought the only reason the group came there was to kill his baby who did nothing. One really angry parent right there
In fairness it's likely not looking for revenge but would see the new humans as a very clear threat to any future offspring and therefore would need to be eliminated as we see in the movie, couple that with the plane injuring it's fin and you've got one angry and territorial animal
@@kyrios1120 I personally think that the spino was sleeping, and one of the shots from the mercenaries woke it up. And people (or in this case dinosaurs) typically get angry if they are interrupted in their sleep. Therefore causing the spino to run after whatever it saw first (which was probably Cooper) Then again like the other guy said, not only did they (in this case) wake up the spino from it's slumber, they also hit its fin with a FREAKING plane, In my opinion the spino chasing after the group after they hit its fin with a plane is totally fair. And. I don't think a predator who hunts other dinosaurs would care for those dinosaurs, and in this case it is probably the spino. And. Even though it is grusome to see people die, if you think about it again, the dino is just doing what it does regularly. It hunts (at least in this movie)
I always liked the idea there were two adult spinos, and the plane killed the one that ate cooper, and Its Mate is the one chasing them, because it has no wound from getting chopped up by a propeller. The Cooper killed a baby spino fits that theory too
That’s what I thought based on the blood on the windshield during take off. The parents took longer to go after cooper to check on the baby, then one chased after him, enraged. The plane struck that one, and the remaining Spino was hellbent on chasing the others. Like the velociraptors having higher intelligence and knowing who took the eggs (the humans in general), it’s possible that the last spino remembered and was looking for the third merc it saw (Sandusky) but he was killed by the velociraptors. Not knowing this, that could be why it was so determined even after all 3 mercs were gone.
And that was a lot of blood, definetly was not just grazing the spinosaurus, and the remaining spino showed no damage to its sail or side, and I doubt that much blood could have come from just hitting the sail.@@Dmgkisapika112
I agree with this theory. I have always thought there were two spinos. Back before the movie came out, there was a spino toy that was much more dull in color, and it had a pretty badly injured sail. I've watched the movie over, and over, trying to find the wound from the propeller. I have noticed a possible scar, but that doesn't make sense considering the injury was just sustained, and shouldn't have already been a scat. Going back to that toy... I've always thought the spino looks a lot less colorful in that first appearance. Knowing how male animals tend to stand out more, which they use to get a mate, and seeing this to be true for the raptors in the same movie, with the males being much more interesting looking than the female, I think the female spino died. Probably not right away, but very soon after killing Cooper.
I like the theory. But my head canon is that the mercs were in the jungle. Cooper may have climbed a tree to get a better vantage point. Then the spino attacks them, knocking him out of the tree where he compound fractures his arm. The rifle he has is a Barrett M82A2, which can not be fired with one hand accurately. Either Cooper fired the rifle wildly, hoping the sound would scare the dinosaur off or he dropped it and fired his side arm (which we see the other mercs had as well). Upon seeing the 9mm can not puncture the hide of the Spino he bolts for the air strip. (The other mercs likely ran because they assumed he was going to die anyways since he was so close to the Spino). He was able to outrun the Spino due to the thick jungle which we see later the spino has trouble navigating).
Lol cooper firing wildly with a 50 at a spino while falling out of a tree and breaking his arm is an image I never thought my brain would conjure and I thank you for it
As an experienced shooter, I believe he did miss every shot. Stress really fucks up your ability to hit your target. I think he was injured by some sort of fall or something being thrown at him/knocked down onto him.
I like this theory because even the way the Spinosaurus roared is in line with the theory. The first roar was loud and menacing, the second one was short and the third one (following the second roar directly) sounded distorted like it was emotional, like angry and sad at the same time because its babies have just been killed.
I have no idea why Cooper's death was lingering in my mind for the past week, but this could not have been more perfect timing to answer my lingering question, as to, How in the heck did he get injured/bleeding without being completely dismembered ... but it does make sense that they found a group of smaller Dino's near the big Spino, even more sense if it was a young one... hence the Adult's grudge/pursuit towards the group
@@gabrielcarrasco9078I always thought the spino tried 2 slash at him n cooper dodged jus not fully then hightailed it outta there somehow. Love that scene I wasn't expecting the action so soon as a kid in theaters awesome movie idc what ppl say lol.
A Spinosaurus family!? No way! It does make sense that a baby Spinosaurus had attacked Cooper. Shadows, thank you so much for covering this! Loved it! You're the best! Keep up the great work! Edit: Can you please do a video about where the Dimetrodon has been all these years before it made its appearance in Dominion?
I got a feeling the dimetrodon was in a cave and that’s where they were the entire time, I mean there was raptor packs and spinosaurus and can’t forget the T. rex roaming the islands! I would say the dimetrodon was afraid of those predators in my opinion!
Jurassic Park III was such an underrated film!! The story wasn’t the best but it had some of the best action scenes out of all of them! It’s unfortunate it was only around an hour and a half. Should’ve been 2 and half!
Actually he was going to offer a bottle of vodka to mama spino in sign of peace, but stumbles, breaking the glass, cuting himself... Mama spino found it very rude...
Without leaving a super long message explaining it, on this video too, I just want to point out that if u take a moment to consider, ull realize it was THEM following(or happening upon)the spinosaurus the whole movie, the spino was ahead of them both subsequent encounters, after the first one, where of course, like the other 2 encounters, THEY came across IT!
Honestly is makes alot more sense that they were running away from raptors. They all seemed suprised to see the spino. They were probably expecting a trex or something similar which is for all the firepower. The whole spino theory is really good. But thinking the raptors were scared off by the arrival of the spino from all the noises is much more believable.
@@dion2ksnipes580 raptors would've been on the prowl either way throughout the island. Who says they didn't just stroll onto a pack and gotten themselves into trouble. Also most of the dinos in the jurassic series are seen as the antogonists. Even though they're just doing what wild animals would do. They gotta drive the point somehow having the spino be the big baddy in this movie. Doesn't have to have a reason to chase them other than being a big bad Dino.
all 3 of their guns would've dropped any of the raptors and caused them to flee, as other comments mentioned there's actually 6 shots total, doesn't make sense the for the raptors to flee when original script had the spinosaurus getting killed by them@@gigglesgaming131
so essentially the baby spino attacked cooper, cooper managed to kill it, and the mother was then high on their heals. That actually makes great sense!
Yes it does but some people don't see it but even the T-rexes In the lost world after finding their lost baby with the crew, came back and destroyed the vehicles and pushed them over the cliff so very possible for the spino to do the same.
I wonder if Cooper would have survived if he just kept running? That would have put the plane between him and the Spino. He could have possibly gotten away while it was distracted.
Yeah, considering that there was another jungle area a few meters away, he could've hid there and pretty much lose the spino since it was far enough to actually miss him even without the plane as a distraction, but we needed the movie to happen so I guess the plot just didn't let him think about that plan
That would've made a far worse fate for him. Since he got abandoned in the middle of the jungle, it wouldn't take much time before he... 1. Got detected by a dinosaur, then killed 2. Died from starvation 3. Suffered a gangrene from his open wound being untreated
This also works with the theory there's at least two adult Spinos. It makes sense that the spino that got hit by the plane was different to the one who persues them for the rest of the movie because A. The spino is obviously injured by the plane but the one later on has no sign of injury and B. being hit in the sail like that would break bone and possibly paralize if not kill the one hit. I don't think the Spinos could reproduce asexually as there's nothing in their genome to allow it, Blue can reproduce Asexually due to her Black Throated Monitor DNA in her genome. The Spinos would have likely had the same Tree Frog DNA used for the rest of the Dinos that allowed them to gender switch. So you'd need a pair to breed, making it likely you have two parents and their clutch.
@@blastfromthepast7119 yes there's many things that reproduce via Parthenogenesis. Mourning geckos, Zebra sharks, black tip sharks and Komodo Dragons are some examples. Chickens and Turkeys have been tested to be capable of Parthenogenesis But the chicks very rarely hatch. But as the rest of the dinosaurs were switching gender to breed it basically rules them having the genes for Parthenogenesis out. Also there's nothing in the Spinos genome to allow Parthenogenesis. So it's much more likely they had a pair.
The spino was genetically modified without Ingen knowing that’s why they left the island I think it definitely had babies and cooper killed one or more
I'm annoyed that the anti-material rifle seemingly didn't phase the spino. Realistically the thing would've probably died if it was shot as its organs are bigger, meaning heart and lung shots would be way easier, even accidentally.
@@kevinfanning8027 In the movie he actually says "come on, coop, you know I can't stop this plane." referencing that the aircraft was already past v1(velocity 1, the speed at which it is no longer safe to abort takeoff) and was approaching rotation speed (the speed at which the aircraft can bring the nose up and leave the ground) and couldn't throttle back without overshooting the whole runway and killing everyone on board. I'm sure he wanted to help Cooper, but there was no chance.
It was most likely removed because it would make the 3 unlikeable like if you saw them attack the spino group there deaths in the film from the spino then the raptors wouldn't have the same impact plus when Billy steals the eggs makes all the characters kinda look bad there motivations for going back to the island with grant was funding for the dig site and so was billys so thinking about it the kirbys cant be sympathized with they lied about the reasons they went to the island even if it was for someone that was lost they still lied and landed on the ground causing the loss of lives sorry kinda had a spiral of thoughts there
So my theory is that they didint even damaged or saw the spino. Maybe cooper but this is my theory. Either he was picked up by a big bird or a carno but. Next theory that theres 3 spino and the 2 was killed so out for revenge the spino wanted to kill Cooper and the others thats it. The reason he damaged hes arm was probably 2 theorys they were attacked by raptors then spino which caused hes bleeding arm how? He was pounced on by a raptor that was a baby. 2 theory is that the bebe spino attacked cooper. Thats it
I think that would have made 3 so much better if we had this backstory, but it would have felt like the 2nd film all over again, with the T_rex's going after the group because they took and hurt their baby but still a really crap team, if they were just willing to leave a man behind to save their own skin,
I mean... if you had seen the same thing as them, you'd be leaving everyone behind too. I'd fucking do it. Insanely tall genetic freak (Spino) that can easily outrun Usain Bolt? Yeah, no thanks. I'm hightailing it out of there before it can even try to catch me. You wanna die trying to save someone? Have fun with that. In no real scenario does anyone live trying to stick together when confronted by something like that. Especially if what Cooper did was true. Which could very well be the reason why the other two hightailed it.
Then you and the person can die together! How sweet! Human empathy evolved for us to survive better since we stand a better chance in a group. If for any reason that empathy lowers the groups or our chances at survival, it’s gone.
Another theory to add is did the plane hit the Spinosaurus's mate and killed it? Since the Spino you see through out the rest of the movie has no injuries related to getting hit by the plane. Sadly this movie had so many plot holes in it though.
I think the other spino chasing them through out the movie was probably the other parent. Possibly the other spino died from blood loss from the plane or something
No they look too similar, no color difference or anything at all when you look at the scene they didn't hit it probably the crunching of coopers body caused there to be blood on the plane the reason why in crashed was because nash panicked and lost control
@@ericmaxwell424 those dinosaurs were supposed to be mutations, aberrations. If you read the novels and then watched the previous movies you'll find out they are genetically different, die hard and insane creatures. A plane crash wouldn't kill it
That actually a good point you raised Shadows I remember watching this movie when I was younger and it baffled me how the Spinosaurus didn't kill Cooper right off the bat and the injury you mentioned in addition gives off what you meant as well. Wow who would have thought a rampaging parent that one theory I would have never thought of. Still wondering if Cooper using an Anti-Sniper rifle how come the gunshots weren't that loud if he using explosive rounds.
In reality the scene was directed the way it was to build suspense and detail how menacing the spino was by giving him a horror movie villain introduction. A lot of scenes don't make sense and are just plot devices but they still work. It's fine the actor in the behind the scenes wanted to flesh out his role, but it wasn't required. An interesting idea though. He could have injured his arm from falling or tripping trees too. Which is why he was so far behind the other two. The shots missing or being completely ineffective make a lot more sense when you are building up this indestructable blood thirsty movie villain. These are basicslly monster movies afterall
While not totally wrong, you make it sound a bit as if JP3 was a perfectly planned out movie but it definitely wasn't. Remember, in reality we already know it had a troublesome production, they cut several things they initially wanted to include (YTers like Klayton Fioriti show scripts, too). Not sure if Shadows' theory was part of that though.
this definitely seems canon since the spino was the first genome hybrid before the scorpios and indo so maybe the frog dna was more prevalent, and it relates to dr. malcom`s "life finds a way'"
As for the mercs instantly running the moment they had trouble… it’s one thing to “know” there’s dinosaurs.” It’s another to see one charging right at you
To this day, I had wondered how Cooper's arm got bloodied, yet he'd survived enough to make it to the runway. Having been a kid when it was released, I'd never really thought about it.... But nowadays, having fallen in love with how the movies of my youth were made, Cooper's predicament mystified me. Looking back, Cooper was armed with a .50 Caliber Barrett Anti- Material Rifle; he'd have left visual wounds on the Spinosaurus, but yet its mouth and claws werent bloody until it grabbed Coop off the runway. It makes sense he had either cut himself in a fall, or compund fractured his upper arm, as he wouldve kept the AMR, and laid down suppreive fire ( which requires two hands for recoil control, especially when the rifle isnt mounted to anything with the bipod) I was also curious as to why Udesky and/or Nash never spoke about what they had seen- it would have made slightly more sense, as we (and the group) see the Velociraptor nests and what happened once they were disturbed; if they'd disturbed and killed a baby in a Spinosaurus nest, Udesky couldve revealed it when they came across the raptor nests.
The Spinosaurus pursuing them would make sense, especially when you consider the walking snacks landing in its territory. The two T-rexes in The Lost World would have expanded their territory after Ian and co brought the infant with the broken leg to their trailer to conduct emergency surgery, not to mention potentially pursue them and the hunters.
What I love about 3 is the scene your on about but also when the two are behind the fence and there the dinosaur is. Staring and waiting. It felt intense.
I have a theory of what might've happened: Rather than come across a juvenile Spinosaurus, what if they had stumbled onto the nest in which there were still unhatched eggs that were close to hatching, but they are attacked by a group of dinosaurs or a single dinosaur looking to steal eggs from the nest or already having eaten a few of the eggs. Unfortunately, before they kill it off, the mother comes along, sees what's going on and she tries to kill the mercenaries and egg thief dinosaur(s), in which the egg thief is either shot in the crossfire or killed by the spino, but not before injuring Cooper. Nash and Udesky retreat and leave Cooper to fend for himself, shooting at the spino just enough to help him get away to where he ditches his gun and makes a run for the plane, only for the spino to follow him. Just a possible fun theory I thought about when watching this video (:
This addition that they "cut-out" would have flushed out that section of the movie. Would have made it more "ooooh I can see why now." where the Spinosaurus is just a mindless beast, it has enough feelings to take revenge.
The rifle question use to be a hot topic waaaay back in the day on JP forums. My guess was always that the gunshots heard were from Cooper's pistol, not his massive 20mm rifle. It's a movie, sure, so realism probably doesn't factor in much but you don't fire a 20mm rifle on your feet or on the run. The fact you hear the shots but no exploding rounds and the fact they are fired in quick succession also makes it seem like the shots were not from the 20mm. I just always assumed he had dumped the rifle so he could haul ass and fired his pistol while on the run. But alas, it's a movie and a very messy one at that so any theory is as good as the next. Maybe he pulled a Dieter Stark and lost his rifle and hurt his arm after falling down a hill trying to take a piss.
Still an enjoyable movie, but it's a shame how much was left out! Imagine if this film was filmed without studio interference or other issues! What we missed is sad to think about, but I will gladly accept this channel for the films context!
im not gonna lie that scence was the most horiffic/scariest scence ive seen yet the fact that cooper saw the spinosaurus was scary but not to mention he also saw the family to which is scarier and also when the spinosaurus popped out in the trees strucked me im now a grown man but it still haunts me to this day and it was scarier when i was little
I just wish we would get a R-rated movie where they just go all out without pulling punches, maybe even in the horror direction. Same for Star Wars, can you imagine how dope that would be
8:15 that relies heavily on how family driven they are. How soon do they split from the parents? Has the lack of parents affected the adults behavior? Do they have enough food that chasing down the people is worth it? Are they chasing them down because they realize the people are a threat to their territory? Are they very territorial? Do they have encounters with the raptors?
I like this theory over all. It also explains how the mercs escaped, the spino stopped to check on its offspring, giving them a window. But honestly, they could have put a single line in to make it cannon. Just udesky muttering that they got the little one and voila, baby spino is cannon. It would have taken up a total of 2 seconds but given context to the entire story by making the spino a vengeful big bad instead of a poinlessly evil one. Which fits the whole nature, "theyre just animals" theme a lot better.
I got this figured out. I think my theory is a little bit different but it makes the most sense to me. Cooper and the other mercs go into the jungle and encounter a nest. A baby spinosaurus attacks Cooper, biting his arm. Cooper does not shoot the baby spinosaurus instead he uses a melee weapon most likely the machete he had on him. As soon as this happens the mother spinosaurus comes and roars. This is the first roar we hear. The other mercs both fire off 3 rounds at the mother but miss probably because they are scared shitless and are under pressure. They leave Cooper behind. At this point there had to have been distance between the mother and Cooper because he would have had to have gotten to his gun, then shot 2 times at the spinosaurus. The reason why the spinosaurus didn't just kill him is because the bullets if you remember are incendiary, meaning the fire most likely spooked the mother spinosaurus like the fire did at the end of the movie giving Cooper time to escape. Cooper drops his gun and flees. The only reason he missed is because he was also under pressure and he was already wounded from the baby. Edit: I would like to add one more thing to my theory. There was probably more of a struggle between Cooper and the baby spinosaurus. You see there had to of been a reason the two other mercs left him to die because the situation had to of been really bad for them. I think while cooper fought off the baby the mother came and started moving towards the group meaning that the other two mercs started focusing on that. They both shot at it, missed and saw that the situation seemed hopeless and ran off. Then cooper kills the baby with a melee weapon and grabs his gun and shoots at the mother. I don't think the other mercs shot the baby spinosaurus because they could have hit Cooper. Rifle rounds would have gone clean through. And maybe they could have attempted to help cooper in his struggle but keep in mind this is a large wild animal (Even though its a baby.) and it probably wouldn't have been easy to fight it off while also having to deal with an even bigger threat coming thier way so the other two mercs just said screw this and left. Also I just can't see Cooper shooting the baby that close with the type of gun he had otherwise he would have set himself on fire. There had to of been a way for Cooper to get away from the mother because there is no way something that fast wouldn't have gotten to him. There had to of been a way Cooper kept the mother at bay giving him time to escape so he shot at it and the fire scared the mother off momentarily.
By the start of the video and how the scene progresses, I actually thought it was his weapon that malfunctioned, post the 2 shots fired; injuring him. However given the greater context of the film and the further explanation of this scene, it makes more sense that there were baby spinos also explaining the mothers vengeance.
First let me say, I love your videos! I always enjoy hearing your different theories about my favourite film franchise! 😊 That said, I did want to clarify that it actually would be very possible for Cooper to miss at point blank range with a weapon like that. In fact, firing a weapon of that size while standing would at the very least dislocate his shoulder, without a dinosaur attack. Cooper is carrying a modified Barrett M82A2 20mm, called Einhorn in the movie, loaded with high explosive incendiary rounds. This is a prototype weapon designed with the purpose of shooting down helicopters, that can be fired from the shoulder while standing. It is no longer in production because the recoil was simply too powerful for one man to hold standing and fire accurately. Additionally, Coopers has been heavily modified with a ridiculously large scope and extended barrel, adding a lot of weight to the weapon and making it very unwieldy to hold in the hand. When we see him at the airfield, he has to lie down to fire it to absorb the recoil, and it's supported by a stand at the end of the barrel. And when he first enters the jungle, the weapon is so excessively large, it looks like he is carrying a giant spear. In short, there is absolutely no way Cooper could accurately fire a weapon of that size, with such a large recoil, while standing. Doing so would at least dislocate his shoulder if not tear it out of the socket, and he would fall over backwards. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger at his peak fitness would struggle to stand and fire that thing. 😆 Now obviously he did manage to get some shots off, which is an absolute miracle and could only happen in the movies, and maybe that's what injured his shoulder? But when you also consider he would be terrified, shaking, sweating and panicked, combined with the powerful recoil of that weapon kicking the barrel up with every shot, he could have easily missed multiple shots at point blank range. Had Cooper had the time to set it up and lie down in position with the weapon, it would be a different story. Just one of those rounds is powerful enough to rip the Spinosaurus in half, and we wouldn't have a very long movie! 😆 It's actually very similar to what happens with Roland in TLW, which isn't that surprising considering Joe Johnston liked to reuse elements of TLW with Billy's lucky strap. If Nick didn't steal Roland's ammo, Roland's "elephant gun" would have blown a hole in the T-Rex large enough to walk through. But instead he could only tranquilize it, and so the San Diego incident happened. Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. Hope whoever reads this finds it informative, and keep up the great work mate! ❤️👍 Edit: Spelling and grammar mistakes. 😅
One thing that I never understood about that scene, earlier in the movie when the mercs are at the air field testing out their weapons, Cooper is shooting explosive rounds through his rifle that blow up a plane. Then when they get to the island and hear him shooting, no explosions. So what did he shoot the babies with and how could he not take down the adult when he’s packing what looks like a .50 cal with explosive rounds?
The explanation makes a lot of sense and recontexualizes the situation. I have to say that did enjoy the mystery. Whatever happened to make the soldiers so scared must have been very VERY bad. The scene left quite an impression.
It's a decent theory but my theory I think is at least on par with this one. If you pay close attention Cooper is running off into the jungle in one direction and Nash and Mr. Udesky soon follow in a nother direction. This happens while Amanda is yelling on the microphone drawing attention to herself and everyone. I think the curious Spinosaurus was simply going to check out this strange new roar and Nash, Udesky, and Cooper didn't even have time to set up a perimeter like they wanted. It's hard to make out but if you listen it seems like Nash fires first, and the creature goes after them. Only then does Cooper fire his higher caliber weapon, either directly at the Spinosaurus or indirectly in an attempt to distract him so that Nash and Udesky can get away. Remember he is probably concealed so that the creature probably didn't spot him at first. As you watch them running back towards the plane, if you take notice, Nash seems a little more panicked than Udesky. I think this is because he realized that his firepower had no effect as he fired first against the creature. Meanwhile you hear Cooper firing off a couple more shots for one reason or another. Yes there could be a juvenile but I don't think so exactly, because we only hear the roar of the one adult Spinosaurus which only makes its presence known after Amanda is yelling. I think what happened next was, the Spinosaurus, still confused and sizing up his enemy Cooper, finally spots him and took a swipe at Cooper, well his weapon anyway, once he found him, perhaps being concealed in such a way that the animal could only just swipe him, perhaps between rocks or nestled amongst a tree or something. If you pay attention it's not only his arm that is injured but his other side too. Then I think at this point the creature hears the plane, probably thinking it's a bigger threat, and goes after it while Cooper realizes this and pursues after. We think he's running to catch the plane, maybe he was, but I never thought that. I always interpreted his actions as: Don't go this way the spinosaurus is coming. Yes he says: stop but that could just mean: stop going this way. It makes sense too that he would get through the jungle before the Spinosaurus because the huge spino has to weave around thick vegetation. Also it's important to know that the Spinosaurus did not come on the airstrip while the plane was landing so it may have been asleep or even out of the area. This is the other reason I'm not sure there was a juvenile. In my opinion, unless it was really young, it would have been curious and would have wanted to inspect the plane too. Now, it could be that Coper really was just trying to get on the plane, but regardless I still believe Cooper was trying to distract the Spinosaurus from Nash and Udesky, not just kill it. I also think the Spinosaurus was so adamant about pursuing them afterwards because the plane clipped his fin and he was very angry at this new threat which poses a danger to his possible territory. Though I don't like to appeal to the facts of later installments, this could be further backed up by Eric Kirby who says to Grant that the T-Rex urine attracts one really big one with a fin. This to me indicates that the Spinosaurus is more than just a really aggressive creature looking for a fight. If it is the first mixed dino hybrid as theorized, that could be the nature of genetically modified dinosaur hybrids: highly aggressive just like the Indominus.
I don't understand how the guns wouldn't be effective. Dinosaurs aren't bullet proof. If it was just one being shot at, it definitely would have harmed it to a great degree with that type of weapon. I couldn't see anything regardless oof size surviving multiple head shots from that. Feels more likely cooper actually took out mate or a mate and younger one they were raising and it explains why the spinosaur wouldn't stop chasing the group no matter how far they went. Cooper getting shipped is definitely a possibility in the aftermath. I don't think people understand how powerful guns like that are other than what they see in movies. Unloading something like that on a human would literally tear limbs off on impact and aftermath would be a Gorey mess with the person being unrecognizable. Regardless of size, it would still be deadly for dinosaurs especially if they were getting shot in the head. Don't understand why the explosive rounds were introduced but never used when they arrived. That definitely would have wiped out one of these spinosaurs instantly. Although guess the dinosaurs wouldn't really be that scary if the characters were just shooting and killing them all the time. Still would be nice to actually see it occasionally
@@apatheticxmindsetx3549 it's even worse in Jurassic World with highly trained heavily armed men organized and equipped Not take out the Indominus, only one raptor with an antitank rocket
@apatheticxmindsetx3549 cuz dinosaurs are lizards. Not mammals. Even more so their freakish big, otherwise why does it take multiple shots to kill certain creatures?
@robertr9188 highly trained organized men whom only have weapons/rifles made to kill humans, not dinosaurs, you really think 5.56 is gonna kill anything? Other than a human? Why do people bothering using 308 to go hunting or bigger rounds to do anything. Also Indo Rex is a experimental dinosaur.
Now it all makes sense. It's just like why the raptors keep pursuing them. If Grant found out in the very beginning that they disturbed a spinosaurus nest, he would have emphasized that it was bad enough to have an angry spinosaurus pursuing them for vengeance, but an entire pack of raptors who want their eggs back was even worse.
I'm really surprised they didn't have the final mercenary get asked what happened in a casual conversation once everything was calm. Wouldn't have taken long to do.
Cooper's death always made me sad, because he was left by Nash, who was supposed to be his friend. And I wonder if Cooper's death was supposed to be a reference from Dino Crisis. As for this theory about the Spinosaurus' nest it makes sense, but Jurassic Park 3 biggest problem are the plot holes because the script was being change all the time while they were filming.
I enjoyed this video way more than the movie itself. And frankly it makes the movie a bit better and me to watch it at least once more with this idea in mind.
Always amazed me how ppl going on a Dino island can’t aim or tactically use their firearms properly and the amount of firearm sabotaging that goes on. It’s like cloned dinos in Jurassic universe have this karma armor that makes them bullet proof. Can’t seem to think of a single dino that died of actually getting shot by a single bullet.
I think he shot and killed a baby spinoff then one of the other spino chased after them and killed cooper and got hit by the plane and died. Then the spinosaurus you see chasing the through the movie is the father and mate of the other one that's why it was chasing them he wanted to avenge his family just what it seems like but eho knows.
Unless you know how a spinosaurus works.. it’s bite is for specifically catching prey and not tearing, it’s very likely you could get bitten and still pull your arm out before too much force is put down to rip it off
this theory is so good! makes so much i sence, i wonder if it got cut because there is also the raptor nest scene. it would be to kinda same/same for both sets of dinos chasing them about the island
with all the trouble that JP3 went through, Richard just saying that stuff sounds like he is trying to just get out of the question completely. its all well and good to say that stuff now. but it would have been quite easy to have a scene where Grant asked one of the mercenaries what happened and have them tell Grant "cooper killed its baby". that literally all we would have needed, 2 maybe 3 minute scene tops
thank you for finally clearing this up! been bothering me since i was a kid lol it may make me sound like a bum but i cant stand when movies leave things up to you to interpret what happened i need everything spoon fed to me in the most direct way possible! none of this giving you small hints and leaving it to you to imagine what happened
I havent seen this movie in years and i forgot a lot of what happened, but seeing cooper again brought back feelings i didn't know i had towards it this scene. Watching cooper beg and cry made me sad as a kid, sure, but i was too young to understand character depth and stuff like that so it didn't impact me farther than, "Aw he died, why didn't they wait for him?". And i watched this a LOT as a kid so i just got use to it to the point i didn't feel much than "And this is when kill number 2 happens." Being older now, i can definitely say that this death really gets to me. It's like, I can't fault the other mercenaries for wanting to get off that island as soon as they can, even if it means leaving someone behind, yet the sadness i get from seeing them leave him hurts. Knowing they have to leave him makes it worse because i know it was a sacrifice that needed to be made if they were to live. Its the whole question of "Who would save one person for the price of five" deal. You can't save everyone, hard calls have to be made. The idea of knowingly being left behind to die is horrifying, and i wish it had turned out better. The actor was good with the desperation and it kills me.
I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I think Udesky says to Mr. Kirby that he never asked him if they were professionals, thus explaining how they were so scared.
I gotchu- the plane had to turn around and go to the end of the runway for takeoff. You see them turning around and everything, so he didn’t come out in a weird spot, just where the plane was before they moved to takeoff
This was the best explanation and matches the scene in the film perfectly 👍🏻. It was never really clear what actually attached him ? But this little run down made perfect sense 👍🏻👍🏻
I noticed that Udesky has a 5.56mm weapon. As we know he's quite jumpy through the rest of the film, maybe he jumped the gun and fired those shots out of surprise at the spino or the babies, accidentally hitting Cooper in the shoulder? I think that Cooper's anti material rifle would be difficult to fire 3 times in quick succession like that, but an assault rifle like Udesky has would have no problem doing the same. Brilliant video 🤙🏼
I always was so irritated that they had him carry an AUG. Willingly going to a dinosaur infested island you'd want nothing smaller than a .308, I'd go with the FAL personally. And Cooper should have taken a standard Barrett, not that anti air Barrett.
I don't understand why this explaination was cut. It could have been so simple. "What happened?" "We found a nest... The baby. It attacked Cooper and..." Silence. How long would that take? 15 seconds with enough dramatic pauses?
I always thought the spino grabbed Cooper with his claws just like with Amanda which cut him, but when he got picked up he shot the Spino which dropped him and then he run
Trivia fun fact: In Jurassic Park 3, Cooper gets separated from the group while they are trying to return to the airplane and take off to escape the Spinosaurus. He is devoured whole while trying to run away… In the video game Dino Crisis (released 2 years prior to JP3), 4 agents parachute onto an island full of dinosaurs. Their target is a secret base. One of the agents gets blown off course into the jungle… and is separated from the rest of the group. He is spotted by a T-Rex in the jungle. He is chased and devoured whole while trying to run away. HIS NAME IS COOPER! As to all the points you brought out in the video… well done! And everything makes so much sense that this must be the only possible explanation for what happened to Cooper in the movie.
What amazes me most is how far Cooper managed to run in such a short time. Considering the speed the plane was going in 20 sec and Cooper still coming out way in front of it.. Dude can not just outrun a Spino, but also a plane lol
Bro, they had to turn the plane around to take off, rewatch the movie. They get on the plane then go to the end of the runway to turn around for takeoff. Cooper wasn’t outrunning a plane, he was just where the plane used to be before they moved to the end of the runway
Really makes you feel sorry for the Spino. That would be the driving fuel to pursue all the remaining humans on the island. Also portrays Cooper as a cold hunter who was more interested in killing small juvenile dinos rather than focusing on helping to locate Ben & Eric.
JP3 is one of the best contenders I've seen on the list of movies that are just riddled with plot holes but thanks to theories and head canons the movie is now way more enjoyable
As a kid none of the Jurassic death or movies scared me I was so interested that I tried to act out most scenes and it was a success and this movie was always my favorite
So Cooper needed 3 shots to kill one adult and juveniles while it can devastate a plane? Not buying it. Jp3 still feels like an incomplete film, leaving Cooper behind would've been made more sense if Cooper said to save themselves and sacrificed himself for his companions but maybe his gun jammed and had to leave it behind
Wish theyd added more to this theory, like a baby spino body shown later in the movie or something just to clarify. Really interesting though, never put much thought into this before
Does no one remember after the initial roar and they talk about it sounding bigger than a trex, there are other gunshots in the background. “What’s a bad idea” *roar* *gunshots* “It sounds bigger” *they run out of the forest* “Coopers a professional he can handle himself” *gunshots from cooper*
I agree. It makes perfect sense that a juvenile Spino was murdered and the parent took its revenge...as it should.... We know that rhe Tyrano parents in Lost World were hell to deal with after their baby and after they got their baby they came back to **** up Ian's life. So it is definitely possible a an infant was involved but due to prehistoric production hell....a lot of things were blurred with this film... Although, it wasnt the best of the franchise, it had some of the best raptor designs to me. I loved them a lot.
I realize a lot of mystery from JP3 could be chalked up to just being "bad writing and editing" but I kind of did like that added sense of mystique. And now years later we're still learning new things and filling in the pieces.
In the deleted scene, there was supposed to be a family. The reason the spino continued to chase the humans is bc Cooper killed the baby. We all know how much of a troubled production jp3 had.
It would also explain why it went after the sent of t-rex pee, it would try and kill/ scare off big preditors away from it's nest znd young
That's smart. And it makes sense. Two shots, two dino's dead. The roar we hear could;ve been a scream of defiance, or final death scream. He was attacked by the baby, mom and dad found them, tried to kill and sadly human won that battle and mom gave chase.@@zeger2766
Makes sense bc of the problem w the production
So spino wants hummans ded because of a plane hitting its fin, but before it was because "thats cooper" killed its child
It was a baby that Cooper killed
Cooper's death was the Jurassic death that haunted me the most as a kid. It's more how he was left behind than the death itself.
Nah, Deiter Stark and Nedry's deaths haunted me the most. Especially Nedry's because you can see the silhouette of the Dilo eating him. Alive.
@@MLPIceberg that never bothered me. The Spino had a mysterious presence to it and it was just so full on an aggressive. But like I said, it was more the prospect of being left behind while watching your own lifeline threatening to kill you. It was certain death either way. Of all the JP deaths, Cooper seemed the most terrified. His scream was blood curdling.
@smileyfawler8454 I always feel so bad for him, he seems so afraid and desperate/saddened by his partners leaving him to die, poor guy
I mean he technically stayed in the forest or jungle instead of running out with the other 2 but i do agree his death was kinda horrifying
Right it had the raw savagery of the first movie frrl
As a kid, this scene stuck with me because the pilot's acting seemed genuine. Also seeing the Spino just pop out of the trees gave me a heart attack.
Imagine they ripped off the front of the plane without telling anyone 🤣
Nobody asked or cares
@@Notconceitedjustbetterthanyou Someone's sad and lonely
I love that "Oh My god!" As well, I thought as a kid he saw the Spinosaurus animatronic jump out of the forest for the first time and was genuine spooked
me too..i remember seeing it in the cinema and the entire audience was like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHH!!! WTF!!!
If you listen carefully to the scene, you can hear six gunshots. The gunshots sound like three pairs fired from three different rifles, I believe Nash and Udesky fired two rounds each as the first two pairs are in quick succession of each other with a slight pause between both pairs, and then Cooper fires two rounds for the third pair.
I think the scene played out like this:
"Cooper being the point man with his large calibre 'Iron Horn 20mm' rifle is walking several meters out in front of Nash and Udesky to recon the surrounding area. Cooper then stumbles across the Spinosaurus' nesting site.
A juvenile catches Cooper by surprise as it charges towards him, he knows he won't be able to get his rifle up in time to fire a round, so he uses his rifle to shield himself as the juvenile crashes into him and pins him to the ground. Cooper is struggling to hold the juvenile away, but the juvenile manages to injure Cooper's left shoulder in the struggle.
The adult roars after hearing the commotion and distress coming from her nesting site and starts making her way to her nest, just a few seconds before Nash and Udesky see Cooper struggling to fend of the juvenile Spinosaurus from a few meters away.
With no time to run to their partner's aid both Nash and Udesky raise their rifles, (Nash using a Heckler & Koch SL8-1 and Udesky using a Steyr AUG A1) and fire two rounds each, hitting and injuring the juvenile as it staggers away. They spot the adult Spinosaurus making her way to her nest through their scopes.
Both Nash and Udesky start sprinting back to the aircraft in fear and in realisation that they have to get the rest of the group on the aircraft, get it started and get it in the air. The adult Spinosaurus continues to close down the distance to her nest whilst letting loose another thunderous roar.
Cooper quickly stands up and with effort raises his rifle as the juvenile staggers towards him, he fires two rounds at the injured juvenile and it collapses to the floor lifeless. Knowing the weight of his rifle will slow him down, he ditches his rifle, holds his injured arm and takes of running in the aircraft's direction."
Great comment
I love this comment. However I'm skeptical that Cooper, being injured, actually hit anything. If anything, Udesky an Nash's shot killed the infant and Cooper missed his shots. Because let's be honest, just a single shot from that 20mm would have floored the adult Spino permanently. We were shown at the beginning of the movie what those rounds could do. If Cooper had hit the Spino, the movie would have ended with Cooper and company leaving in the plane.
Wasn’t it canon that the Spino was male?
but they put tree frog DNA and as we saw in jurassic park raptors with tree frog DNA change there sexs @@ZillyJunior
This was such a good concept for a movie frrl
Unrelated, but in JP2 Malcom's line "mommys very angry" after literally THROWING A CAR OFF A CLIFF is just perfect
Tlw was an underated masterpiece, especially ian
@@Casual_guy1234 can you belive there are people who choose JP3 over TLW?
@@derpasoruswrecks2773 yeahhhh like i know tlw isnt better than the first one BUT COME ON ITS MY FAVOURITE FOR A REASON, like its just perfect, down to the iconic lines, dino scenes, and plot
@@derpasoruswrecks2773also the only confusing thing about tlw is what killed the crew of the ss venture( its was velocoraptors and the rex killed them before a dieng crew member closed the cargo hold) whilst jp3 hasmamy, like why is sorna a jungle now, why is there a spino and such
@@derpasoruswrecks2773also i just fonished a rewarch of jp3 and tlw and tlw was better by alot
Never felt that bad for a grown as man in a movie
I thinks Its how he breaks down crying that gets me
Great acting
Agreed. You can feel the hope draining from him.
I think it also cause it hits him what he’d done and that he knew he was fucked.
I think he scratched his arm on a plant or something. It might have had a sharp branch he didn’t notice while running. And the way he stands still is just saying “just kill me already”. The fact that he can’t help but cry and accept it whilst being about to die for about 3 possible reasons chills me to the bone.
@@johndetheshape3095 fr
This also perfectly answers the question why the Spino was after the group so badly, he must have thought the only reason the group came there was to kill his baby who did nothing. One really angry parent right there
In fairness it's likely not looking for revenge but would see the new humans as a very clear threat to any future offspring and therefore would need to be eliminated as we see in the movie, couple that with the plane injuring it's fin and you've got one angry and territorial animal
@@jackhardacre5754 true that. If anything he did not want those humans moving
I like this theory. Now when we see it from its point of view, he realize it was just angry and wanting revenge. Kinda like that movie Orca
@@kyrios1120 I personally think that the spino was sleeping, and one of the shots from the mercenaries woke it up.
And people (or in this case dinosaurs) typically get angry if they are interrupted in their sleep. Therefore causing the spino to run after whatever it saw first (which was probably Cooper)
Then again like the other guy said, not only did they (in this case) wake up the spino from it's slumber, they also hit its fin with a FREAKING plane, In my opinion the spino chasing after the group after they hit its fin with a plane is totally fair.
And.
I don't think a predator who hunts other dinosaurs would care for those dinosaurs, and in this case it is probably the spino.
And.
Even though it is grusome to see people die, if you think about it again, the dino is just doing what it does regularly. It hunts (at least in this movie)
It's already known why it kept chasing them though
I always liked the idea there were two adult spinos, and the plane killed the one that ate cooper, and Its Mate is the one chasing them, because it has no wound from getting chopped up by a propeller. The Cooper killed a baby spino fits that theory too
That’s what I thought based on the blood on the windshield during take off. The parents took longer to go after cooper to check on the baby, then one chased after him, enraged. The plane struck that one, and the remaining Spino was hellbent on chasing the others. Like the velociraptors having higher intelligence and knowing who took the eggs (the humans in general), it’s possible that the last spino remembered and was looking for the third merc it saw (Sandusky) but he was killed by the velociraptors. Not knowing this, that could be why it was so determined even after all 3 mercs were gone.
And that was a lot of blood, definetly was not just grazing the spinosaurus, and the remaining spino showed no damage to its sail or side, and I doubt that much blood could have come from just hitting the sail.@@Dmgkisapika112
There is a wound on the Spino. It's difficult to see, but many JP youtubers have covered this topic.
I agree with this theory. I have always thought there were two spinos. Back before the movie came out, there was a spino toy that was much more dull in color, and it had a pretty badly injured sail. I've watched the movie over, and over, trying to find the wound from the propeller. I have noticed a possible scar, but that doesn't make sense considering the injury was just sustained, and shouldn't have already been a scat. Going back to that toy... I've always thought the spino looks a lot less colorful in that first appearance. Knowing how male animals tend to stand out more, which they use to get a mate, and seeing this to be true for the raptors in the same movie, with the males being much more interesting looking than the female, I think the female spino died. Probably not right away, but very soon after killing Cooper.
Nope it's the same spino, if you watch the film carefully you will see the damage the plane did to its leg/side later on after the plane has crashed.
I like the theory. But my head canon is that the mercs were in the jungle. Cooper may have climbed a tree to get a better vantage point. Then the spino attacks them, knocking him out of the tree where he compound fractures his arm. The rifle he has is a Barrett M82A2, which can not be fired with one hand accurately. Either Cooper fired the rifle wildly, hoping the sound would scare the dinosaur off or he dropped it and fired his side arm (which we see the other mercs had as well). Upon seeing the 9mm can not puncture the hide of the Spino he bolts for the air strip. (The other mercs likely ran because they assumed he was going to die anyways since he was so close to the Spino). He was able to outrun the Spino due to the thick jungle which we see later the spino has trouble navigating).
Makes sense in this version of the script
Lol cooper firing wildly with a 50 at a spino while falling out of a tree and breaking his arm is an image I never thought my brain would conjure and I thank you for it
That first nightmarish roar from the spinosaurus in the distance continues to give me goosebumps(and an adrenaline rush) to this day
I have ptsd from it
"cooper is a professional, he can handle himself"- r u sure ?
"Thats cooper"
We know Alan we know
Cooper : I am a professional but not against dinosaurs, goddammit!
@@Casual_guy1234 that scene was funny 😭
More like was a professional
As an experienced shooter, I believe he did miss every shot. Stress really fucks up your ability to hit your target. I think he was injured by some sort of fall or something being thrown at him/knocked down onto him.
I like this theory because even the way the Spinosaurus roared is in line with the theory. The first roar was loud and menacing, the second one was short and the third one (following the second roar directly) sounded distorted like it was emotional, like angry and sad at the same time because its babies have just been killed.
I have no idea why Cooper's death was lingering in my mind for the past week, but this could not have been more perfect timing to answer my lingering question, as to, How in the heck did he get injured/bleeding without being completely dismembered ... but it does make sense that they found a group of smaller Dino's near the big Spino, even more sense if it was a young one... hence the Adult's grudge/pursuit towards the group
Maybe the big one surprised him and he gashed himself on a branch or rock. Then couldn't properly aim which caused him to miss the Spino.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078I always thought the spino tried 2 slash at him n cooper dodged jus not fully then hightailed it outta there somehow. Love that scene I wasn't expecting the action so soon as a kid in theaters awesome movie idc what ppl say lol.
A Spinosaurus family!? No way! It does make sense that a baby Spinosaurus had attacked Cooper. Shadows, thank you so much for covering this! Loved it! You're the best! Keep up the great work!
Edit: Can you please do a video about where the Dimetrodon has been all these years before it made its appearance in Dominion?
I know, right?
I got a feeling the dimetrodon was in a cave and that’s where they were the entire time, I mean there was raptor packs and spinosaurus and can’t forget the T. rex roaming the islands! I would say the dimetrodon was afraid of those predators in my opinion!
I think it could've been a velociraptor besides if it was a spinosaurus, his arm would be clean off
Didn't Biosyn make the dimetrodon or am I mistaken?
@@ohiologist9256 they definitely did make the dimetridons
Jurassic Park III was such an underrated film!! The story wasn’t the best but it had some of the best action scenes out of all of them! It’s unfortunate it was only around an hour and a half. Should’ve been 2 and half!
Not to mention the best looking and smartest raptors
Hated how the TRex died so easily, wanted a better fight
@@whydoyoukeeptalking umm what 😂😂😂😂😂
@@whydoyoukeeptalkingrun along bro
Other than the story and some script. It was cool movie. The dino designs and CGI was at peak imo.
Actually he was going to offer a bottle of vodka to mama spino in sign of peace, but stumbles, breaking the glass, cuting himself... Mama spino found it very rude...
😂 very true
Without leaving a super long message explaining it, on this video too, I just want to point out that if u take a moment to consider, ull realize it was THEM following(or happening upon)the spinosaurus the whole movie, the spino was ahead of them both subsequent encounters, after the first one, where of course, like the other 2 encounters, THEY came across IT!
Honestly is makes alot more sense that they were running away from raptors. They all seemed suprised to see the spino. They were probably expecting a trex or something similar which is for all the firepower. The whole spino theory is really good. But thinking the raptors were scared off by the arrival of the spino from all the noises is much more believable.
But the spinosaurus wouldnt have been so relentless if they didnt wrong it and the Raptors just started hunting they after billy stole the eggs
@@dion2ksnipes580 raptors would've been on the prowl either way throughout the island. Who says they didn't just stroll onto a pack and gotten themselves into trouble. Also most of the dinos in the jurassic series are seen as the antogonists. Even though they're just doing what wild animals would do. They gotta drive the point somehow having the spino be the big baddy in this movie. Doesn't have to have a reason to chase them other than being a big bad Dino.
all 3 of their guns would've dropped any of the raptors and caused them to flee, as other comments mentioned there's actually 6 shots total, doesn't make sense the for the raptors to flee when original script had the spinosaurus getting killed by them@@gigglesgaming131
The "nest" theory seems more plausible. If it were a raptor attack I'd assume Cooper's wound would be more serious.
@@dion2ksnipes580 They hit the Spino with their plane and are running around in its hunting ground seems like enough reason for it to be pissed off
so essentially the baby spino attacked cooper, cooper managed to kill it, and the mother was then high on their heals. That actually makes great sense!
Yes it does but some people don't see it but even the T-rexes In the lost world after finding their lost baby with the crew, came back and destroyed the vehicles and pushed them over the cliff so very possible for the spino to do the same.
Wow, I actually never thought about how he got injured all these years. I'm glad I saw this video on my feed. Thank you :)
I wonder if Cooper would have survived if he just kept running? That would have put the plane between him and the Spino. He could have possibly gotten away while it was distracted.
Yeah, considering that there was another jungle area a few meters away, he could've hid there and pretty much lose the spino since it was far enough to actually miss him even without the plane as a distraction, but we needed the movie to happen so I guess the plot just didn't let him think about that plan
Not with his bleeding, it would smell him out & track him down. If not the Spino then any number of other carnivores.
I think he just gave up thinking he wouldn't make it without boarding the plane but I could be wrong
I d imagine he d meet a similar fate to dieter and be hunted in a pack
That would've made a far worse fate for him. Since he got abandoned in the middle of the jungle, it wouldn't take much time before he...
1. Got detected by a dinosaur, then killed
2. Died from starvation
3. Suffered a gangrene from his open wound being untreated
I always felt bad for cooper the way he begs for the plane to come back for him is so sad.
This also works with the theory there's at least two adult Spinos. It makes sense that the spino that got hit by the plane was different to the one who persues them for the rest of the movie because A. The spino is obviously injured by the plane but the one later on has no sign of injury and B. being hit in the sail like that would break bone and possibly paralize if not kill the one hit.
I don't think the Spinos could reproduce asexually as there's nothing in their genome to allow it, Blue can reproduce Asexually due to her Black Throated Monitor DNA in her genome. The Spinos would have likely had the same Tree Frog DNA used for the rest of the Dinos that allowed them to gender switch. So you'd need a pair to breed, making it likely you have two parents and their clutch.
True! And I remember seeing something awhile ago. Supposedly the Spino chasing them the whole time was a male Spino.
As far as i know, the blood on the plane's windows was Cooper's.
There's a gecko that clones its self..
@@blastfromthepast7119 yes there's many things that reproduce via Parthenogenesis. Mourning geckos, Zebra sharks, black tip sharks and Komodo Dragons are some examples. Chickens and Turkeys have been tested to be capable of Parthenogenesis But the chicks very rarely hatch.
But as the rest of the dinosaurs were switching gender to breed it basically rules them having the genes for Parthenogenesis out. Also there's nothing in the Spinos genome to allow Parthenogenesis. So it's much more likely they had a pair.
The spino was genetically modified without Ingen knowing that’s why they left the island I think it definitely had babies and cooper killed one or more
Not to mention he lost an expensive, Anti-Material Rifle.
I'm annoyed that the anti-material rifle seemingly didn't phase the spino. Realistically the thing would've probably died if it was shot as its organs are bigger, meaning heart and lung shots would be way easier, even accidentally.
@@lonewolf0712 well. It’s a movie from 2001
Also watching Cooper cry knowing he's being left to his fate is on par with Robert screaming when the big one jumps at him
"Come on, Coop, you killed its baby, you know I can't stop this plane."
He said, "Get out the way." He didn't want to run Cooper over.
@@kevinfanning8027 In the movie he actually says "come on, coop, you know I can't stop this plane." referencing that the aircraft was already past v1(velocity 1, the speed at which it is no longer safe to abort takeoff) and was approaching rotation speed (the speed at which the aircraft can bring the nose up and leave the ground) and couldn't throttle back without overshooting the whole runway and killing everyone on board. I'm sure he wanted to help Cooper, but there was no chance.
@justplainpsychotic Yeah, I know that. You typed out incorrect dialogue so I corrected it.
@@kevinfanning8027 Incorrect? I was making a joke about the spinosaur family. No idea what you're on about.
@justplainpsychotic Okay, wasn't sure if you were joking or misheard the line
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I believe it. It's a theory I've had for awhile too so I'm glad someone else feels the same
It was most likely removed because it would make the 3 unlikeable like if you saw them attack the spino group there deaths in the film from the spino then the raptors wouldn't have the same impact plus when Billy steals the eggs makes all the characters kinda look bad there motivations for going back to the island with grant was funding for the dig site and so was billys so thinking about it the kirbys cant be sympathized with they lied about the reasons they went to the island even if it was for someone that was lost they still lied and landed on the ground causing the loss of lives sorry kinda had a spiral of thoughts there
So my theory is that they didint even damaged or saw the spino. Maybe cooper but this is my theory. Either he was picked up by a big bird or a carno but. Next theory that theres 3 spino and the 2 was killed so out for revenge the spino wanted to kill Cooper and the others thats it. The reason he damaged hes arm was probably 2 theorys they were attacked by raptors then spino which caused hes bleeding arm how? He was pounced on by a raptor that was a baby. 2 theory is that the bebe spino attacked cooper. Thats it
I think it would be 100 percent what happened considering your most likely to survive an infant spino instead of an adult
RIP Cooper, he deserved better.
I think that would have made 3 so much better if we had this backstory, but it would have felt like the 2nd film all over again, with the T_rex's going after the group because they took and hurt their baby
but still a really crap team, if they were just willing to leave a man behind to save their own skin,
I mean... if you had seen the same thing as them, you'd be leaving everyone behind too. I'd fucking do it. Insanely tall genetic freak (Spino) that can easily outrun Usain Bolt? Yeah, no thanks. I'm hightailing it out of there before it can even try to catch me. You wanna die trying to save someone? Have fun with that. In no real scenario does anyone live trying to stick together when confronted by something like that. Especially if what Cooper did was true. Which could very well be the reason why the other two hightailed it.
Then you and the person can die together! How sweet!
Human empathy evolved for us to survive better since we stand a better chance in a group. If for any reason that empathy lowers the groups or our chances at survival, it’s gone.
Another theory to add is did the plane hit the Spinosaurus's mate and killed it? Since the Spino you see through out the rest of the movie has no injuries related to getting hit by the plane. Sadly this movie had so many plot holes in it though.
I think the other spino chasing them through out the movie was probably the other parent. Possibly the other spino died from blood loss from the plane or something
No they look too similar, no color difference or anything at all when you look at the scene they didn't hit it probably the crunching of coopers body caused there to be blood on the plane the reason why in crashed was because nash panicked and lost control
You can see a injury on the back of the spino during the trex fight
You're not very bright are you?
@@ericmaxwell424 those dinosaurs were supposed to be mutations, aberrations. If you read the novels and then watched the previous movies you'll find out they are genetically different, die hard and insane creatures. A plane crash wouldn't kill it
That actually a good point you raised Shadows I remember watching this movie when I was younger and it baffled me how the Spinosaurus didn't kill Cooper right off the bat and the injury you mentioned in addition gives off what you meant as well. Wow who would have thought a rampaging parent that one theory I would have never thought of.
Still wondering if Cooper using an Anti-Sniper rifle how come the gunshots weren't that loud if he using explosive rounds.
So was supposed to be a baby but it was in a deleted scene but cooper was supposed to shoot him and that is what angered the spinosaurus
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In reality the scene was directed the way it was to build suspense and detail how menacing the spino was by giving him a horror movie villain introduction. A lot of scenes don't make sense and are just plot devices but they still work. It's fine the actor in the behind the scenes wanted to flesh out his role, but it wasn't required. An interesting idea though. He could have injured his arm from falling or tripping trees too. Which is why he was so far behind the other two. The shots missing or being completely ineffective make a lot more sense when you are building up this indestructable blood thirsty movie villain. These are basicslly monster movies afterall
While not totally wrong, you make it sound a bit as if JP3 was a perfectly planned out movie but it definitely wasn't. Remember, in reality we already know it had a troublesome production, they cut several things they initially wanted to include (YTers like Klayton Fioriti show scripts, too). Not sure if Shadows' theory was part of that though.
bro i swear, jp3 had so much potential,really sad that we couldn't see him at it fully potential.
The acting on his death was actually horrific, his scream was so genuine 😮
this definitely seems canon since the spino was the first genome hybrid before the scorpios and indo so maybe the frog dna was more prevalent, and it relates to dr. malcom`s "life finds a way'"
As for the mercs instantly running the moment they had trouble… it’s one thing to “know” there’s dinosaurs.” It’s another to see one charging right at you
To this day, I had wondered how Cooper's arm got bloodied, yet he'd survived enough to make it to the runway. Having been a kid when it was released, I'd never really thought about it.... But nowadays, having fallen in love with how the movies of my youth were made, Cooper's predicament mystified me. Looking back, Cooper was armed with a .50 Caliber Barrett Anti- Material Rifle; he'd have left visual wounds on the Spinosaurus, but yet its mouth and claws werent bloody until it grabbed Coop off the runway. It makes sense he had either cut himself in a fall, or compund fractured his upper arm, as he wouldve kept the AMR, and laid down suppreive fire ( which requires two hands for recoil control, especially when the rifle isnt mounted to anything with the bipod)
I was also curious as to why Udesky and/or Nash never spoke about what they had seen- it would have made slightly more sense, as we (and the group) see the Velociraptor nests and what happened once they were disturbed; if they'd disturbed and killed a baby in a Spinosaurus nest, Udesky couldve revealed it when they came across the raptor nests.
This changes the whole dynamic of the movie. Too bad we are missing this detail in the final cut.
The Spinosaurus pursuing them would make sense, especially when you consider the walking snacks landing in its territory. The two T-rexes in The Lost World would have expanded their territory after Ian and co brought the infant with the broken leg to their trailer to conduct emergency surgery, not to mention potentially pursue them and the hunters.
The parental instinct of the T. rex is uh academic.
Hold on this is gonna be bad
@@BekahMarie11 Lol. :)
then billy took the raptor eggs so they started chasing the group also
This is another prime example of a JP question I didn't know I needed an answer to until I saw it. Thank you again, Shadows!
You're welcome, thanks for watching :)
What I love about 3 is the scene your on about but also when the two are behind the fence and there the dinosaur is. Staring and waiting. It felt intense.
Interesting how they came to the island wanting to protect their child, and in turn were chased by a Spino wanting to protect its child
Killing this character off so quick was a crime. He had so much potential
I have a theory of what might've happened: Rather than come across a juvenile Spinosaurus, what if they had stumbled onto the nest in which there were still unhatched eggs that were close to hatching, but they are attacked by a group of dinosaurs or a single dinosaur looking to steal eggs from the nest or already having eaten a few of the eggs. Unfortunately, before they kill it off, the mother comes along, sees what's going on and she tries to kill the mercenaries and egg thief dinosaur(s), in which the egg thief is either shot in the crossfire or killed by the spino, but not before injuring Cooper. Nash and Udesky retreat and leave Cooper to fend for himself, shooting at the spino just enough to help him get away to where he ditches his gun and makes a run for the plane, only for the spino to follow him.
Just a possible fun theory I thought about when watching this video (:
Lol
Oh, yes, this theory DEFINITELY makes sense! ^_^ Nicely put together! ❤
Glad you think so!
This addition that they "cut-out" would have flushed out that section of the movie. Would have made it more "ooooh I can see why now." where the Spinosaurus is just a mindless beast, it has enough feelings to take revenge.
A character named Cooper got killed in the first Dino crisis as well
Is actually funny how long the plane is inside. And how short it is outside.
@@Vipers_Pit Some scenes the plane looks really long then short lol
The rifle question use to be a hot topic waaaay back in the day on JP forums. My guess was always that the gunshots heard were from Cooper's pistol, not his massive 20mm rifle. It's a movie, sure, so realism probably doesn't factor in much but you don't fire a 20mm rifle on your feet or on the run. The fact you hear the shots but no exploding rounds and the fact they are fired in quick succession also makes it seem like the shots were not from the 20mm. I just always assumed he had dumped the rifle so he could haul ass and fired his pistol while on the run. But alas, it's a movie and a very messy one at that so any theory is as good as the next. Maybe he pulled a Dieter Stark and lost his rifle and hurt his arm after falling down a hill trying to take a piss.
I always thought that the Spino had a particular vendetta against the humans, but I wasn't sure why. This makes so much more sense!
There is also theory that the one that ate Cooper was a different spinosaurus than the one that attacked the plane.
Still an enjoyable movie, but it's a shame how much was left out! Imagine if this film was filmed without studio interference or other issues! What we missed is sad to think about, but I will gladly accept this channel for the films context!
thank you
im not gonna lie that scence was the most horiffic/scariest scence ive seen yet the fact that cooper saw the spinosaurus was scary but not to mention he also saw the family to which is scarier and also when the spinosaurus popped out in the trees strucked me im now a grown man but it still haunts me to this day and it was scarier when i was little
I just wish we would get a R-rated movie where they just go all out without pulling punches, maybe even in the horror direction. Same for Star Wars, can you imagine how dope that would be
Definitely would have added to the story about 2 parents trying to protect their children
man the troubled jp 3 production is really something, it would have been a better movie if that scene would have been kept in there
8:15 that relies heavily on how family driven they are. How soon do they split from the parents? Has the lack of parents affected the adults behavior? Do they have enough food that chasing down the people is worth it? Are they chasing them down because they realize the people are a threat to their territory? Are they very territorial? Do they have encounters with the raptors?
I like this theory over all. It also explains how the mercs escaped, the spino stopped to check on its offspring, giving them a window.
But honestly, they could have put a single line in to make it cannon.
Just udesky muttering that they got the little one and voila, baby spino is cannon. It would have taken up a total of 2 seconds but given context to the entire story by making the spino a vengeful big bad instead of a poinlessly evil one. Which fits the whole nature, "theyre just animals" theme a lot better.
Keep up the good work on these videos shadows, Jurassic park is by far my favourite franchise and I really enjoy your videos!
Glad you like them!
I got this figured out. I think my theory is a little bit different but it makes the most sense to me. Cooper and the other mercs go into the jungle and encounter a nest. A baby spinosaurus attacks Cooper, biting his arm.
Cooper does not shoot the baby spinosaurus instead he uses a melee weapon most likely the machete he had on him. As soon as this happens the mother spinosaurus comes and roars. This is the first roar we hear. The other mercs both fire off 3 rounds at the mother but miss probably because they are scared shitless and are under pressure.
They leave Cooper behind. At this point there had to have been distance between the mother and Cooper because he would have had to have gotten to his gun, then shot 2 times at the spinosaurus.
The reason why the spinosaurus didn't just kill him is because the bullets if you remember are incendiary, meaning the fire most likely spooked the mother spinosaurus like the fire did at the end of the movie giving Cooper time to escape. Cooper drops his gun and flees.
The only reason he missed is because he was also under pressure and he was already wounded from the baby.
Edit: I would like to add one more thing to my theory. There was probably more of a struggle between Cooper and the baby spinosaurus. You see there had to of been a reason the two other mercs left him to die because the situation had to of been really bad for them. I think while cooper fought off the baby the mother came and started moving towards the group meaning that the other two mercs started focusing on that. They both shot at it, missed and saw that the situation seemed hopeless and ran off. Then cooper kills the baby with a melee weapon and grabs his gun and shoots at the mother. I don't think the other mercs shot the baby spinosaurus because they could have hit Cooper. Rifle rounds would have gone clean through. And maybe they could have attempted to help cooper in his struggle but keep in mind this is a large wild animal (Even though its a baby.) and it probably wouldn't have been easy to fight it off while also having to deal with an even bigger threat coming thier way so the other two mercs just said screw this and left. Also I just can't see Cooper shooting the baby that close with the type of gun he had otherwise he would have set himself on fire. There had to of been a way for Cooper to get away from the mother because there is no way something that fast wouldn't have gotten to him. There had to of been a way Cooper kept the mother at bay giving him time to escape so he shot at it and the fire scared the mother off momentarily.
By the start of the video and how the scene progresses, I actually thought it was his weapon that malfunctioned, post the 2 shots fired; injuring him. However given the greater context of the film and the further explanation of this scene, it makes more sense that there were baby spinos also explaining the mothers vengeance.
First let me say, I love your videos! I always enjoy hearing your different theories about my favourite film franchise! 😊
That said, I did want to clarify that it actually would be very possible for Cooper to miss at point blank range with a weapon like that. In fact, firing a weapon of that size while standing would at the very least dislocate his shoulder, without a dinosaur attack.
Cooper is carrying a modified Barrett M82A2 20mm, called Einhorn in the movie, loaded with high explosive incendiary rounds. This is a prototype weapon designed with the purpose of shooting down helicopters, that can be fired from the shoulder while standing. It is no longer in production because the recoil was simply too powerful for one man to hold standing and fire accurately.
Additionally, Coopers has been heavily modified with a ridiculously large scope and extended barrel, adding a lot of weight to the weapon and making it very unwieldy to hold in the hand. When we see him at the airfield, he has to lie down to fire it to absorb the recoil, and it's supported by a stand at the end of the barrel. And when he first enters the jungle, the weapon is so excessively large, it looks like he is carrying a giant spear.
In short, there is absolutely no way Cooper could accurately fire a weapon of that size, with such a large recoil, while standing. Doing so would at least dislocate his shoulder if not tear it out of the socket, and he would fall over backwards. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger at his peak fitness would struggle to stand and fire that thing. 😆
Now obviously he did manage to get some shots off, which is an absolute miracle and could only happen in the movies, and maybe that's what injured his shoulder?
But when you also consider he would be terrified, shaking, sweating and panicked, combined with the powerful recoil of that weapon kicking the barrel up with every shot, he could have easily missed multiple shots at point blank range.
Had Cooper had the time to set it up and lie down in position with the weapon, it would be a different story. Just one of those rounds is powerful enough to rip the Spinosaurus in half, and we wouldn't have a very long movie! 😆
It's actually very similar to what happens with Roland in TLW, which isn't that surprising considering Joe Johnston liked to reuse elements of TLW with Billy's lucky strap.
If Nick didn't steal Roland's ammo, Roland's "elephant gun" would have blown a hole in the T-Rex large enough to walk through. But instead he could only tranquilize it, and so the San Diego incident happened.
Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. Hope whoever reads this finds it informative, and keep up the great work mate! ❤️👍
Edit: Spelling and grammar mistakes. 😅
One thing that I never understood about that scene, earlier in the movie when the mercs are at the air field testing out their weapons, Cooper is shooting explosive rounds through his rifle that blow up a plane. Then when they get to the island and hear him shooting, no explosions. So what did he shoot the babies with and how could he not take down the adult when he’s packing what looks like a .50 cal with explosive rounds?
from what I remember, it was a 20 mm gun, not a .50
The explanation makes a lot of sense and recontexualizes the situation.
I have to say that did enjoy the mystery. Whatever happened to make the soldiers so scared must have been very VERY bad. The scene left quite an impression.
It's a decent theory but my theory I think is at least on par with this one.
If you pay close attention Cooper is running off into the jungle in one direction and Nash and Mr. Udesky soon follow in a nother direction. This happens while Amanda is yelling on the microphone drawing attention to herself and everyone. I think the curious Spinosaurus was simply going to check out this strange new roar and Nash, Udesky, and Cooper didn't even have time to set up a perimeter like they wanted. It's hard to make out but if you listen it seems like Nash fires first, and the creature goes after them. Only then does Cooper fire his higher caliber weapon, either directly at the Spinosaurus or indirectly in an attempt to distract him so that Nash and Udesky can get away. Remember he is probably concealed so that the creature probably didn't spot him at first.
As you watch them running back towards the plane, if you take notice, Nash seems a little more panicked than Udesky. I think this is because he realized that his firepower had no effect as he fired first against the creature.
Meanwhile you hear Cooper firing off a couple more shots for one reason or another. Yes there could be a juvenile but I don't think so exactly, because we only hear the roar of the one adult Spinosaurus which only makes its presence known after Amanda is yelling. I think what happened next was, the Spinosaurus, still confused and sizing up his enemy Cooper, finally spots him and took a swipe at Cooper, well his weapon anyway, once he found him, perhaps being concealed in such a way that the animal could only just swipe him, perhaps between rocks or nestled amongst a tree or something. If you pay attention it's not only his arm that is injured but his other side too.
Then I think at this point the creature hears the plane, probably thinking it's a bigger threat, and goes after it while Cooper realizes this and pursues after. We think he's running to catch the plane, maybe he was, but I never thought that. I always interpreted his actions as: Don't go this way the spinosaurus is coming. Yes he says: stop but that could just mean: stop going this way. It makes sense too that he would get through the jungle before the Spinosaurus because the huge spino has to weave around thick vegetation. Also it's important to know that the Spinosaurus did not come on the airstrip while the plane was landing so it may have been asleep or even out of the area. This is the other reason I'm not sure there was a juvenile. In my opinion, unless it was really young, it would have been curious and would have wanted to inspect the plane too.
Now, it could be that Coper really was just trying to get on the plane, but regardless I still believe Cooper was trying to distract the Spinosaurus from Nash and Udesky, not just kill it. I also think the Spinosaurus was so adamant about pursuing them afterwards because the plane clipped his fin and he was very angry at this new threat which poses a danger to his possible territory. Though I don't like to appeal to the facts of later installments, this could be further backed up by Eric Kirby who says to Grant that the T-Rex urine attracts one really big one with a fin. This to me indicates that the Spinosaurus is more than just a really aggressive creature looking for a fight. If it is the first mixed dino hybrid as theorized, that could be the nature of genetically modified dinosaur hybrids: highly aggressive just like the Indominus.
I don't understand how the guns wouldn't be effective. Dinosaurs aren't bullet proof. If it was just one being shot at, it definitely would have harmed it to a great degree with that type of weapon. I couldn't see anything regardless oof size surviving multiple head shots from that. Feels more likely cooper actually took out mate or a mate and younger one they were raising and it explains why the spinosaur wouldn't stop chasing the group no matter how far they went. Cooper getting shipped is definitely a possibility in the aftermath. I don't think people understand how powerful guns like that are other than what they see in movies. Unloading something like that on a human would literally tear limbs off on impact and aftermath would be a Gorey mess with the person being unrecognizable. Regardless of size, it would still be deadly for dinosaurs especially if they were getting shot in the head. Don't understand why the explosive rounds were introduced but never used when they arrived. That definitely would have wiped out one of these spinosaurs instantly. Although guess the dinosaurs wouldn't really be that scary if the characters were just shooting and killing them all the time. Still would be nice to actually see it occasionally
@@apatheticxmindsetx3549 it's even worse in Jurassic World with highly trained heavily armed men organized and equipped Not take out the Indominus, only one raptor with an antitank rocket
@apatheticxmindsetx3549 cuz dinosaurs are lizards. Not mammals.
Even more so their freakish big, otherwise why does it take multiple shots to kill certain creatures?
@robertr9188 highly trained organized men whom only have weapons/rifles made to kill humans, not dinosaurs, you really think 5.56 is gonna kill anything? Other than a human?
Why do people bothering using 308 to go hunting or bigger rounds to do anything.
Also Indo Rex is a experimental dinosaur.
Now it all makes sense. It's just like why the raptors keep pursuing them.
If Grant found out in the very beginning that they disturbed a spinosaurus nest, he would have emphasized that it was bad enough to have an angry spinosaurus pursuing them for vengeance, but an entire pack of raptors who want their eggs back was even worse.
I'm really surprised they didn't have the final mercenary get asked what happened in a casual conversation once everything was calm. Wouldn't have taken long to do.
Cooper's death always made me sad, because he was left by Nash, who was supposed to be his friend. And I wonder if Cooper's death was supposed to be a reference from Dino Crisis.
As for this theory about the Spinosaurus' nest it makes sense, but Jurassic Park 3 biggest problem are the plot holes because the script was being change all the time while they were filming.
I enjoyed this video way more than the movie itself. And frankly it makes the movie a bit better and me to watch it at least once more with this idea in mind.
I just love how all these movie theory channels never take bad writing and simple plotholes into consideration.
Always amazed me how ppl going on a Dino island can’t aim or tactically use their firearms properly and the amount of firearm sabotaging that goes on. It’s like cloned dinos in Jurassic universe have this karma armor that makes them bullet proof. Can’t seem to think of a single dino that died of actually getting shot by a single bullet.
There's no way in hell cooper was injured by the spinosaurus with out body parts missing.
By an adult one no... But a baby one well that's more believable. Plus by the gun shots it sounds believable.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
I think he shot and killed a baby spinoff then one of the other spino chased after them and killed cooper and got hit by the plane and died. Then the spinosaurus you see chasing the through the movie is the father and mate of the other one that's why it was chasing them he wanted to avenge his family just what it seems like but eho knows.
It wasn’t a baby not confirmed
Unless you know how a spinosaurus works.. it’s bite is for specifically catching prey and not tearing, it’s very likely you could get bitten and still pull your arm out before too much force is put down to rip it off
i loved this movie as a kid and always wondered why cooper was injured and what spooked the other guys thanks for explaining it
This was never a question I had until I watched this video.
this theory is so good! makes so much i sence, i wonder if it got cut because there is also the raptor nest scene. it would be to kinda same/same for both sets of dinos chasing them about the island
with all the trouble that JP3 went through, Richard just saying that stuff sounds like he is trying to just get out of the question completely. its all well and good to say that stuff now. but it would have been quite easy to have a scene where Grant asked one of the mercenaries what happened and have them tell Grant "cooper killed its baby". that literally all we would have needed, 2 maybe 3 minute scene tops
thank you for finally clearing this up! been bothering me since i was a kid lol it may make me sound like a bum but i cant stand when movies leave things up to you to interpret what happened i need everything spoon fed to me in the most direct way possible! none of this giving you small hints and leaving it to you to imagine what happened
Good to have a proper answer now. 22 years later
I havent seen this movie in years and i forgot a lot of what happened, but seeing cooper again brought back feelings i didn't know i had towards it this scene.
Watching cooper beg and cry made me sad as a kid, sure, but i was too young to understand character depth and stuff like that so it didn't impact me farther than, "Aw he died, why didn't they wait for him?". And i watched this a LOT as a kid so i just got use to it to the point i didn't feel much than "And this is when kill number 2 happens."
Being older now, i can definitely say that this death really gets to me. It's like, I can't fault the other mercenaries for wanting to get off that island as soon as they can, even if it means leaving someone behind, yet the sadness i get from seeing them leave him hurts. Knowing they have to leave him makes it worse because i know it was a sacrifice that needed to be made if they were to live. Its the whole question of "Who would save one person for the price of five" deal. You can't save everyone, hard calls have to be made.
The idea of knowingly being left behind to die is horrifying, and i wish it had turned out better. The actor was good with the desperation and it kills me.
I Love your videos Shadows. You tackle all the questions I’ve ever had about this franchise. 😁
Glad you like them!
I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I think Udesky says to Mr. Kirby that he never asked him if they were professionals, thus explaining how they were so scared.
Now we need a video explaining how Cooper was able to run far and fast enough to come out of the trees ahead of a plane in mid takeoff.
I gotchu- the plane had to turn around and go to the end of the runway for takeoff. You see them turning around and everything, so he didn’t come out in a weird spot, just where the plane was before they moved to takeoff
thanks, i havent seen the movie since i had it on vhs lol i completely forgot about that part!@@shosha101390
This was the best explanation and matches the scene in the film perfectly 👍🏻. It was never really clear what actually attached him ? But this little run down made perfect sense 👍🏻👍🏻
I noticed that Udesky has a 5.56mm weapon. As we know he's quite jumpy through the rest of the film, maybe he jumped the gun and fired those shots out of surprise at the spino or the babies, accidentally hitting Cooper in the shoulder? I think that Cooper's anti material rifle would be difficult to fire 3 times in quick succession like that, but an assault rifle like Udesky has would have no problem doing the same. Brilliant video 🤙🏼
I always was so irritated that they had him carry an AUG. Willingly going to a dinosaur infested island you'd want nothing smaller than a .308, I'd go with the FAL personally. And Cooper should have taken a standard Barrett, not that anti air Barrett.
I don't understand why this explaination was cut. It could have been so simple. "What happened?" "We found a nest... The baby. It attacked Cooper and..." Silence. How long would that take? 15 seconds with enough dramatic pauses?
I always thought the spino grabbed Cooper with his claws just like with Amanda which cut him, but when he got picked up he shot the Spino which dropped him and then he run
Trivia fun fact: In Jurassic Park 3, Cooper gets separated from the group while they are trying to return to the airplane and take off to escape the Spinosaurus. He is devoured whole while trying to run away…
In the video game Dino Crisis (released 2 years prior to JP3), 4 agents parachute onto an island full of dinosaurs. Their target is a secret base. One of the agents gets blown off course into the jungle… and is separated from the rest of the group. He is spotted by a T-Rex in the jungle. He is chased and devoured whole while trying to run away. HIS NAME IS COOPER!
As to all the points you brought out in the video… well done! And everything makes so much sense that this must be the only possible explanation for what happened to Cooper in the movie.
What amazes me most is how far Cooper managed to run in such a short time. Considering the speed the plane was going in 20 sec and Cooper still coming out way in front of it.. Dude can not just outrun a Spino, but also a plane lol
Bro, they had to turn the plane around to take off, rewatch the movie. They get on the plane then go to the end of the runway to turn around for takeoff. Cooper wasn’t outrunning a plane, he was just where the plane used to be before they moved to the end of the runway
Really makes you feel sorry for the Spino. That would be the driving fuel to pursue all the remaining humans on the island. Also portrays Cooper as a cold hunter who was more interested in killing small juvenile dinos rather than focusing on helping to locate Ben & Eric.
JP3 is one of the best contenders I've seen on the list of movies that are just riddled with plot holes but thanks to theories and head canons the movie is now way more enjoyable
As a kid none of the Jurassic death or movies scared me I was so interested that I tried to act out most scenes and it was a success and this movie was always my favorite
So Cooper needed 3 shots to kill one adult and juveniles while it can devastate a plane? Not buying it. Jp3 still feels like an incomplete film, leaving Cooper behind would've been made more sense if Cooper said to save themselves and sacrificed himself for his companions but maybe his gun jammed and had to leave it behind
Wish theyd added more to this theory, like a baby spino body shown later in the movie or something just to clarify. Really interesting though, never put much thought into this before
Does no one remember after the initial roar and they talk about it sounding bigger than a trex, there are other gunshots in the background.
“What’s a bad idea”
*roar*
*gunshots*
“It sounds bigger”
*they run out of the forest*
“Coopers a professional he can handle himself”
*gunshots from cooper*
Off topic I love the fact you included Dino crisis set yourself at ease theme
I agree. It makes perfect sense that a juvenile Spino was murdered and the parent took its revenge...as it should....
We know that rhe Tyrano parents in Lost World were hell to deal with after their baby and after they got their baby they came back to **** up Ian's life.
So it is definitely possible a an infant was involved but due to prehistoric production hell....a lot of things were blurred with this film... Although, it wasnt the best of the franchise, it had some of the best raptor designs to me. I loved them a lot.
I realize a lot of mystery from JP3 could be chalked up to just being "bad writing and editing" but I kind of did like that added sense of mystique. And now years later we're still learning new things and filling in the pieces.