Could you run your computer's HDMI out, your camera HDMI out, and your Playstation's HDMI out all into the Roland input 1, 2, 3? And then run the Roland's thru into the capture card and the Main into the TV? I'm unclear on what you're trying to achieve. Shouldn't you be recording with your capture card at the very end of the chain? I had no idea about the USB 2 vs 3. Bummer!
I'm unclear as to what the laptop output would do.... cuz I'd still run into issues either audio control or video control. even at the end of it all, if it worked, I still run into the USB issue of incompatible ports.
Hmm! Coincidentally, I'm trying to configure a recording/livestream setup without any USB connections at all. The main weakness of the Roland is that it can't put two sources on the screen without using the Scene buttons (split and PinP). That's what makes OBS so useful. If you don't use USB, you won't really need OBS. If you don't use OBS, you won't have any picture-in-picture flexibility. It may be possible to edit the Scene buttons. If Split 1, 2 and 3 are not useful, it may be possible to reconfigure them. There is a "Scene Edit" button, after all. You'll probably need to plug into the Monitor HDMI to do so, but once it's setup, the Roland should remember your new scenes. When I was running this Roland via USB 3.0 with OBS, sometimes I had to restart OBS and the Roland multiple times for OBS to recognize the camera source. Unless you read that the USB 3.0 is explicitly not compatible, it may be worth another try or two. You need the game, your camera, the game audio, and your voice going into the capture card. Maybe ditch the laptop, run the Playstation into the Roland along with your camera, use the Scene buttons to put your camera feed over the game footage and put the capture card after the Roland. That would mean placing two devices between the playstation and your TV, so there'd probably be significant lag. Maybe don't use the capture card's output, if you can get the Roland's Thru or Main port to output the game onto your TV. On the audio side, you'll have to do a lot of trial and err. Older gaming systems would have audio and video on separate outputs, as you know. This would be useful because you could plug your mic into the Roland and the gaming console into the Line input, if you had to mute audio from HDMI sources. There may be adapters for this purpose but I doubt it's necessary. A device with Red Yellow White outputs via RCA with an HDMI input AND output is a thing that can be bought -- but only if it makes sense, of course.
Oh, but then if you don't use USB, you can't really livestream because computers typically don't have HDMI input. What a conundrum! It would be expensive trying to get a setup that satisfies both offline recording and livestreaming without USB. So the Roland might be useless for livestreaming until you get a new computer, but don't give up yet!
@troublesomecorsair I won't give up, believe me! this is quite a fun journey, learning about how all of this stuff works. it occurs to me that I haven't really tried using my PC itself... mostly because it's on the other wall of the room. but if I used it for strictly testing purposes, perhaps then I could figure out the theoretical ideal setup. only problem is that my computer's ability for consistent WiFi is shot. I've burned through three or four different wifi adapters with incredibly inconsistent internet and lag spikes. but the laptop (and, hilariously, the family PC) have SUPER consistent connections! maybe it's just cuz I live in the garage? that would be something to figure out, too: if the internet changes if I brought the router in the garage with me.
Could you run your computer's HDMI out, your camera HDMI out, and your Playstation's HDMI out all into the Roland input 1, 2, 3?
And then run the Roland's thru into the capture card and the Main into the TV?
I'm unclear on what you're trying to achieve. Shouldn't you be recording with your capture card at the very end of the chain?
I had no idea about the USB 2 vs 3. Bummer!
I'm unclear as to what the laptop output would do.... cuz I'd still run into issues either audio control or video control. even at the end of it all, if it worked, I still run into the USB issue of incompatible ports.
Hmm! Coincidentally, I'm trying to configure a recording/livestream setup without any USB connections at all. The main weakness of the Roland is that it can't put two sources on the screen without using the Scene buttons (split and PinP). That's what makes OBS so useful. If you don't use USB, you won't really need OBS. If you don't use OBS, you won't have any picture-in-picture flexibility. It may be possible to edit the Scene buttons. If Split 1, 2 and 3 are not useful, it may be possible to reconfigure them. There is a "Scene Edit" button, after all. You'll probably need to plug into the Monitor HDMI to do so, but once it's setup, the Roland should remember your new scenes.
When I was running this Roland via USB 3.0 with OBS, sometimes I had to restart OBS and the Roland multiple times for OBS to recognize the camera source. Unless you read that the USB 3.0 is explicitly not compatible, it may be worth another try or two.
You need the game, your camera, the game audio, and your voice going into the capture card. Maybe ditch the laptop, run the Playstation into the Roland along with your camera, use the Scene buttons to put your camera feed over the game footage and put the capture card after the Roland. That would mean placing two devices between the playstation and your TV, so there'd probably be significant lag. Maybe don't use the capture card's output, if you can get the Roland's Thru or Main port to output the game onto your TV.
On the audio side, you'll have to do a lot of trial and err. Older gaming systems would have audio and video on separate outputs, as you know. This would be useful because you could plug your mic into the Roland and the gaming console into the Line input, if you had to mute audio from HDMI sources. There may be adapters for this purpose but I doubt it's necessary. A device with Red Yellow White outputs via RCA with an HDMI input AND output is a thing that can be bought -- but only if it makes sense, of course.
Oh, but then if you don't use USB, you can't really livestream because computers typically don't have HDMI input. What a conundrum! It would be expensive trying to get a setup that satisfies both offline recording and livestreaming without USB.
So the Roland might be useless for livestreaming until you get a new computer, but don't give up yet!
@troublesomecorsair I won't give up, believe me! this is quite a fun journey, learning about how all of this stuff works. it occurs to me that I haven't really tried using my PC itself... mostly because it's on the other wall of the room. but if I used it for strictly testing purposes, perhaps then I could figure out the theoretical ideal setup. only problem is that my computer's ability for consistent WiFi is shot. I've burned through three or four different wifi adapters with incredibly inconsistent internet and lag spikes. but the laptop (and, hilariously, the family PC) have SUPER consistent connections! maybe it's just cuz I live in the garage? that would be something to figure out, too: if the internet changes if I brought the router in the garage with me.