Eurovison 2024, Israel, & Europe's Problem. (WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS) 🇮🇱
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- Eurovison 2024, Israel, & Europe's Problem. (WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS) 🇮🇱
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Silent Majority Voted for Israel 🇮🇱
So now you are Europeans ? As to Palestinians, you say you have always been middle eastern 😅
Me too 🇵🇹🇨🇵 and my friends 🇧🇷 living in Europe. The best song Israel 🇮🇱.
I stand with Israel,and was horrified to see how this young Israeli was abused verbally and at to be highly protected for her safety,I'm so glad this young lady went ahead to perform and sang beautifully under that kind of pressure,from them bullies.
Eurovision proved the World supports Israel ❤
I’m English Jew and the amount of hate out there is shocking. You are so very lucky living bin Israel and Guardian is paper full of hate to Israel and Jews.
15 IOF liquidated in Rafah this afternoon - business is positively booming.
That’s so sad that there is so much Antisemitism in England. I often read about it in the Jewish Chronicle. For me it always felt right to love the Jews. There is so much hate against them that it’s not enough just to respect them. I couldn’t do different and the affection is heartfelt.
The Guardian is appalling as is the BBC. Do you ever think about making Aliyah? - Just interested as an English non-Jew who is sickened and horrified by what I'm seeing here. I would much rather live in Israel. England has been ruined.
@@JA-iz2qp I think if I were a Jew that’s what I‘d do - move to Israel! Here in Austria we have too many immigrants from Muslim countries, most of them antisemitic. Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are certainly safer places for Jews than Vienna!
@@tho2295 I'm a Christian and a Zionist and with the Islamist immigrants and the woke here (both of whom want to destroy Judeo-Christian values) it has become a place I feel totally at odds with. Of course many more people (if the Eurovision public vote is anything to go by!) support Israel and the Jews but nevertheless the other lot are the loudest and get the most help from the media, politicians and police.
They are basically saying I like you as long as you don't exist
Or if you are suffering
@@TheTravelingClatt tbf I’ve marched or otherwise participated in invasion day protests since the 1988 march … so I do and have been active in support of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander rights. But this year I couldn’t go. I feel kind of sick about it because the event was *entirely* co-opted by Palestinian activists. I don’t know how to navigate this because I can’t support terrorism. And now I also know that these campaigns being linked is not new. I just didn’t know about it. This affiliation goes back to the 1970’s.. and now I have to own that maybe I’ve helped perpetuate the conflict you’re having to deal with because I voted for politicians that I didn’t realise were affiliated with organisations that participate in terrorism. I feel kinda shit about that. I thought I was just being compassionate; now I know it’s much more complicated than I thought. I’m sorry.
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they call ashkenazi jews white such lie eden golan is an ashkenazi jew and she looks midle eastern
The truth is that the Middle East and North Africa are places where there are many people with white skin who do not consider themselves white. Even in the censuses in America, where they, their grandparents or parents migrated, they don't say they are white. Those who use the argument with white Jews are nothing but disgusting racists.
But none of us are WHITEEEE
@@TheTravelingClatt they are a litle bit of jews who look white
Yep, Ashkenazis are actually more native Levantine than the Yemeni Jews.
And the irony of 6 million Jews being murdered, and facing discrimination, throughout Europe and the Americas, for being non-white, always eludes them. My family got kicked out of the Elks club (we joined for the pool) when they discovered we were Jewish. They pointed to the part of their charter, that said it was for whites only. Clearly the Elks didn't think Jews were white.
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Hello from Europe/UK. Well, hard to watch only because I fully agree and I've seen this kind of material lots. Still, always good to see, and fair comment. Since 7th Oct I've really been impressed with how much people bury themselves in phones - TikTok, Instagram etc. When talking about this subject it becomes very clear that nearly nobody has read a history or has much in the way of critical thinking as a skill. Good luck with the idea that peace is possible, starting with the recognition of Israel. Of course it should on that basis. Will it? As far as I understand, that would essentially be against one of the core End-of-Days prophecies/teachings, as well as numerous others regarding Jewish people, in Islam. That's the trouble with cults/ideologies/religions - in this case all three seem to mean the same thing.
"Croatia won in the Man category".
"I curse you, may your son win Eurovision"!
The humour of today aside, our Europe has got a BIG problem. It's ill.
"First they come for the jews..."
I have not yet known a civilisation, tribe or people turning against the jews, and not collapsing.
You guys are chosen as the canary in the coalmine, as the script of human history,... I'm truly sorry for and empathize with all the hardships and mental pressure, I wish I could help, and try to do that where ever I go.
¿ The script of human history ? Care to explain ? ¿ Who wrote the script ? Written history existed prior to the 'Bible' by the way. There was the Sumerians/Cuneiform etc. etc.
@@Lunatic4Bizcas Sure. But expect a long explanation, bueno, not very UA-cam'y. 😁. Saludos from an old Andalusian Moorish fortress, the Sephardic alley.
@@Lunatic4Bizcas To me it's not that important who or what was first.
Every story has got a built-up, a prelude, a 25% of merely setting the scene - before Plot Point 1.
Which then is a rollercoaster up to Plot Point 2. After which the film, novel, story or opera is winding down.
Just as a painting has a golden ratio, making that the rest is but there to shed the light to the center.
I can't tell you who wrote the script. There are very many options.
It can be the collective wisdom derived from a previous, completely vanished era. It can be that with the Big Bang, there was not only time, matter, space, but also conscience. It can be the highly compressed wisdom of a person sitting in Nazareth overlooking that hyper strategic valley of Megiddo, and deriving the future from the past patterns, just as you can already hum the Bolero of Ravel after only a minute (how amazing that all these new gas fields are off the shore of the mouth of that valley, how is that as a hook to drag greed there, and how amazing that it's so magnetic to parades of anger, wrath, envy, pride).
What I do know is that the script was and is right. Amazingly so.
I know that I know nothing. It took me a lifetime of studying, to realise that. I know that I had to learn 5 languages, to understand that I have nothing to say. Mine is but a human brain of 3 pounds. We can't even understand the universe of our subconscious, etc. Forget about how difficult it is to imagine what it is, to be outside of the dimension of time.
What would that entail? Do you see the end from the beginning, or the beginning from the end, or do you see everything at the same time?
Do you see how a people or a person behaves in their specific role, and do you start liking them, and invisibly start to steer or help them?
Do you steer some towards all the resources everywhere, so that they slowly start learn how to be gods, with all the electronics or bits of your own knowledge? (How to make a burning bush, a sea to open, or knowing all thoughts of everyone, all those things that some humans are capable of today).
Do you give people complete freedom, to chose between good and evil, and only interfere when the mess becomes too terrible?
I have no answers. But we're following a script, to the letter.
That is, the jews and Israel do.
All the rest of us are but the choir, extras and armies, playing the roles of good and evil.
It is said that diamonds are only the result of extreme heat and extreme pressure. That's us. You are supposed to be the diamonds.
As things stand, our lovely human race is so not going into space. They can't be trusted with it at all, until they have gone through this university of history.
We will never be gods, until we have learned the morality, long term thinking, the reasons how sins destroy and virtues build... and learned that all out of our OWN wish. Not because of that we have to because of a visible dictator-God.
There will be NO peace, as long as humans have not stopped the war in themselves.
@@retirosierra : You had me with your esoteric musings (observations) and the perplex realities in the universe as well as our relationship to that as human beings until you got to the point of alluding to the purported chosen people, according to religious scrolls and how the rest of humanity should fall in line. I respect your views on universality; however, I will not concede with the notion that there is a class of people that should be shown special deference merely due to their perceived role (carefully crafted over time) as the keeper of 'God's' word, which invariably has given advantage to that group or those who have identified themselves as belonging to that group. The origins of the mess that has wrought so much confusion and misery upon mankind needlessly is to be found in that so called ancient wisdom deriving from that 'one' source. Coming from a religious background (One of the large Christian denominations originating in the U.S), I used to have the same sort of deference you appear to have, but no longer due to a variety of reasons, which I don't have time to expound upon. To start with, the notion of a God who is to be shown so much reverence and respect (not to be questioned or named technically), yet in religious script (The Torah/Tanakh) can be found to harbor some of the worst character traits found within man, for instance; the notion that God (The Name) is a vengeful God; God (The Name) is a jealous God etc.; never mind commanding and justifying the wholesale slaughter (genocide) of different peoples and justifying such acts. This description of the 'Almighty' is problematic being that at least in the case of Christianity, this same God is purported to be an all loving God who loves all creation. The contradiction present with a punitive God who is also an all loving and caring God is just too much for me to bear or justify and is actually dangerous. This sort of narrative has played out horribly in human history and has lent itself to justifying horrific crimes; the most obvious being the extreme slaughter and genocide of the majority of native peoples/tribes in the Americas by Europeans who often times did so in the name of their Christian God (converting either by force or manipulative sophistry those who remained); which in essence is that same God mentioned in the Torah. Although I recognize that disagreement exists in the perception of who that God may be, the conceptual source is the same. I'm stating all of this from a secular standpoint with the intention of trying to be objective as possible; not pretending to be a 'know it all' or privileged to unique information; just simply as a sentient and conscious human being. On the same token, from the blueprint of Judaism and Christianity as well as through verbal stories passed down over the centuries among travelers in Arabia emerged Islam. Similar to Christianity, the problem with Islam as an expansive religion was that it became a religion of conquest as it was largely spread through war (not always of course). As I see it, the main problem present with the concept of an all powerful omniscient God is that it lends to absolutism among those who adhere to that concept as well as the gatekeepers of such (Religious leaders); and absolutism is one of the most dangerous elements that we as humans have had to contend with. While the premise of Zionism is secular as a political model and ideology, it certainly has religious overtones codified in Judaism. While many in the western world project Islam as a threat due to its association with terrorist groups or by pointing to theocratic nations like Iran that are portrayed as totalitarian, Zionism operates much differently as it imbues itself in so called democracies on the institutional level (education/law), in finance and through politics. Nowhere is this influence more pronounced than in the United States, which touts itself as being the bastion of democracy and freedom to the rest of the world. This influence has played out heavily in the unmeasured influence of Zionism in government and institutions of higher education in the U.S. While Israel is a small nation of only 10 million people, no other nation on earth exerts as much influence in the external and internal affairs through overarching Pro Israel lobbies like AIPAC and CUFI, which have bought off favor from the overwhelming majority of politicians in the U.S who do its bidding. Elite universities in the United States have been found to have ties to the State of Israel through business deals, sponsorships and arms deals (much more pronounced than any other nation). Pro Zionist presidents and Chancellors have utilized law enforcement to their advantage to intimidate, harass and arrest Pro Palestinian protestors and interrupt their encampments (a tactic that does have precedence in U.S history); the overwhelming majority of which that have conducted their demonstrations peaceably. Perhaps the worst reviling of the protesters has come through their disparagement through defamation by influential entities partial to Zionism at the institutional level and the well financed mainstream media at large; especially when it comes to the accusation of Antisemitism running rampant among Pro Palestinian encampments, when many within those encampments as well as organizations spearheading the movement are Jewish themselves. The culmination of this pernicious overarching influence was the passage of House of Representatives Bill 6090, which is an attempt to legally define the terms and parameters for what constitutes Antisemitism. Among those terms that constitute Antisemitism is any criticism aimed toward the State of Israel to include its foreign policy stances. Such a bill is an affront to the 1st Amendment of the constitution as it violates the exercise of free speech; and it exemplifies just how compromised the politicians of a purported sovereign nation (the U.S) are to a foreign entity (The state of Israel). Look, I appreciate your humility in recognizing after years of study that you have come to the realization that your knowledge is minuscule or amounts to nothing in the grander scheme of things. We are all finite beings therefore our understanding is limited and we are living on borrowed time. It is for this very reason that as flawed human beings, we shouldn't exalt anyone over another, which obviously includes a group of human beings that identifies themselves as being being part of a special or privileged group (whatever the reason may be) as well as being generally regarded by others outside that group as being such. Here's also where I find the concept of a holy overarching deity to be problematic as well, because deference to such an authority, which according to scripture has flaws yet is deemed to be flawless has proven needlessly disastrous for mankind. Any sort of collective punishment; exclusion or inhumanity toward other fellow human beings can be justified by deference to that one entity; even in the case of differing groups vying for favor from that same entity and looking upon their particular group or faction as being elect, therefore resulting in conflict. To put things in context, there are aspects about Judaism culturally and religiously that I admire and respect like the long held practice of debating over and interpreting the religious writings of scripture, rabbis and sages as well as teachings of personal accountability. I also have a tremendous respect for rabbis who delve into universal esoteric teachings and have a flexible view of spirituality rooted in the great work and ideas of sages like Maimonides. I respect the right of anyone to believe and practice whatever ritual they may as long as those beliefs don't extend into being applied widely through influence in the political realm (As a political project/ideology), in establishing institutional bias and in interfering with others human rights. As a human race we share one world, we all make mistakes, we all have triumphs, joys, failures, basic needs and are susceptible to infirmities or even being the unfortunate or unwitting victims of violence. Since we all live on borrowed time, we are all learning to one extent or another. Having compassion and empathy one toward another which is expressed out of genuine love and concern are our greatest traits as a species. These traits are universal whether we ascribe to a religion or not. At this point in human history, we should learn that application of religiosity to exert authority by implementing rule based on religion to be applied broadly does not work and is untenable in the long run. Having said that, I do believe in the sovereignty and self determination of nations and people. If a majority of people within a nation are content and wish to establish a nation based on a religion or ideology, that is fine as long as it doesn't interfere with the sovereignty of others who do not belong to that particular nation. I nor anyone else should not have the authority to dictate to others what they should do, how they should live their lives or what system they should adhere to etc. etc.
@@Lunatic4Bizcas Hello, thanks a lot for your reply, non-judgemental, non-attacking, polite, careful, - in other words a true debate, such one hardly ever sees any longer, definitely not online 🙂. Thx for that.
It's also a very lengthy one, and a topic spanning millennia, so how on earth could I react to everything. You seem to be genuine, thx again, so I'll try to be that too 😁😱. Smth I hardly ever still bother about, because for most people i live on a different planet and with every word i sail away even more to orinoco flow instead of getting to a middle ground 😁. Fortunately your nick is lunatic, which hints at you not taking yourself too seriously either.
After all, should we follow the theory that everything is but the result of randomness, then so are our thoughts.
And today is Pentecost, so let's talk in tongues (English is not my 1st nor 2nd language), literal and spiritual ones. For all I know the bomb drops tomorrow, or the black-out, or everything that we in the West have allowed our elite to do all over the place, we felt comfortable with it, so should feel comfortable to receive it.
Communication is difficult, every human is an island, and perspectives are different.
Mine is coming from an alley at the bottom of an old Moorish fortress, the type of barrio where the jews would have sat during 600 years under Muslim rule (between stables and animals, just outside the wall, being a first wall of human flesh). But also before, under the Visigoths and the Romans, there were moments of heavy suppression.
I mention this first and foremost, to show that I don't see there was much advantage, if any, in a role of representing or spreading a message of God. If anything, it has brought them a lot of misery and disadvantages.
A few "advantages" indeed: survival of the fittest, investing in things that you can easily take with you when you're being expulsed (aka knowledge).
And when they DROP the role of standing apart, being a messenger, fully integrate, become atheist... then the persecution is even worse (Holocaust). Jews have been targeted for and accused of being communist, capitalist, being too rich, being poor and pale, the cause of the pest, of the crumbling of the economy, of being too powerful, of being too weak and useless... anything under the sun. No, I don't see any advantage in being / calling yourself / being seen as "chosen" - which is chosen as TOOL, by the way, nothing more, no reverence needed, one doesn't have reverence for a spade, the spade gets the worst hits. This is also why I'm not passionate about anything of this, you can't get passionate about a spade or tool, you know that for your own sake you want to maintain it very well, but that's it.
When you say that some groups have overarching influence, how come? Are other people less intelligent or motivated or unified to become a good lobby? How come that one "wins" in this domain? Are there not 1.5 billion Muslims, 30 million in Europe alone? You'd say many peoples should be able to be formidable pressure groups.
Well, I can see at least one reason. If for 600 years you are not allowed to do anything, but to sit in your stable, turn pale, be forced to collect the taxes (the divide and rule thing of the fortress), what can you do? Study. Read. All religeous texts and all languages of everyone (arabic, amazigh, kurdish, turkish, latin, the Spanish of the day), the philosophers, the emperors, rhetoric, science.
All others are becoming strong, performing healthy jobs, as military, farmer, carpenter, look down on you from their horses - you become strong in humility, science, psychology, diplomacy, etc. That's the light you are SUPPOSED to bring.
So then you rise again, become the right hand or councilor of sultan and king, and then you're hated again for right that.
If humanity zooms in on any 'Israel issue', sorry humanity, you created it, you trained it, it was you ploughing the soil and seeds. If in Germany you want to see jews as communists, and in the USSR as capitalists or theists, everything at one and the same time, you might have a really irrational hatred within you. You YET have to learn a difficult lesson. It is you, who makes all prophecies fulfil, such as the jews being scattered, remaining small in number, carrying a curse, returning to Israel, making it turn green, becoming powerful... (what option have you got, when you're a sliver in an ocean of enmity, in a brutal region, having a war on your hands every 10 years). It's like history's longest or strangest liberation struggle.
I do have to smile about smth. In 1492 the jews had to leave Spain. Their deadline was the 9th of Av (11/9), a date that either was coincidental or cleverly chosen, for that also having been the date of both the destruction of the 1st and 2nd temple, so the start of 2 previous expulsions. Oh, psychological warfare! Clever! So there the last ones went, on ships from Palos de la Frontera. One day before Columbus set sail there, resulting in the New World, which also became the new promised land for jews.
Nah, I don't know who wrote it, but there is a stunning, intricate script or programming.
So far about Judea 🙂.
And as to Christianity having done evil, any ideology has, any next one even worse than the previous one. Where there is an energy, a thought force, someone will be quick to use and abuse it.
"You shall not call anyone Father"... and within a split second there will be a pope (father) who'll jump forwards, pretend to be the leader of the energy or beautiful thus dangerous thought - and lead the millions in the wrong direction.
You shall not call anyone father, rabbi or master... for it's a given that giving a human this title or status, only leads to tragedy, deceit, destruction.
Sort of as at this grain of sand in time, fascism dresses itself up as anti-fascism and lures an energy with candy colors, the last drumbeats of the Bolero of the stranger with his candy.
I'm gay, by the way, as in 2024 one seems to have to define or reduce one self to, whereas for me that's but on the 5th or 10th layer of the painting, first and foremost I'm human, in the human experience, and I let all flags march to the lowest point on earth they desire.
Hey, I don't know if I have anything right as to The Script. We might only know this, when also the USA collapses and disappears, being stabbed in the back by a new power, after having dropped Israel, immense pride comes before immense destruction, first all surrounding countries war on Israel, then the whole world, then Israel being decimated but still once again a remnant surviving, all people receiving a mark without which they cannot buy and sell, etc. We will see. Personally I am very happy to have digested that, am detached from it, find it deserved, even and especially also my own judgment (what am I doing here, so indifferent to wearing clothes made by slaves, with a phone filled with coltan dug up by children in Congo, the electricity from the uranium in Niger whereas Niger itself has to live with electricity cuts, what am I doing not having used my voice against the destruction of Irak over a lie, the use of "bringing democracy" as the new religion,.... ad infinitum. I have CONTRIBUTED to the destruction of species and rivers, i have NOT been a gardener or shepherd, why would or could I be trusted with an Eden? ).
We will see. Maybe I will only grasp what my own level of light is, by the ferocity with which darkness will persecute me. I don't care, I won't play, it's not my play, have no self-pity, have not erased house or finances or nation or gender to the level of idol, I sit back and watch, the ruins of the Roman Empire, the Greeks, Egypt, Babylon Assyria, Catholic Kingd, 3rd Reich, USSR, all those formidable Goliaths who are gone, while their little David has been forced to practise with a forever better sling.
A little David that's still, as many tribes, the same hodgepodge that would have dwelt through the desert. Still organises early morning raves under influence around a golden calf, as though forever stuck as a broken record in Exodus 32.
The learning curve of humans is and has to be a very long one.
We are all but, or should all be trying to make the very best of the own tiny role given.
Mine seems to be Psalm 91 as sung by Sons of Korah, or the whole work of Leonard Cohen. How I love that man! He evokes the seemingly most dreadful future, but ever so smiling, accepting, oom-pah-pah. I joyfully sing along with Closing Time, or I've seen the future brother.
Did I recently for fun take a DNA origin test. Expecting to be a 100% Germanic or Scandinavian. Did the results come from left field: entirely Sephardic and Arabic. Of all the places on earth, I settled as High horse in donkey street. No idea about the script or programming or how ancestors tried to capture it in words, but it's delicious. When it also dawns on you that you moved here by coincidence on the day that you turned 40, and even as atheist you said "uf, I'm out of the desert".
La vida es bella. I'm so thankful to have been given a peaceful, happy, unworrying mind. For all I know the last pebble is a meteorite, and I'll just smile. I will find it just, a repetitive Bolero has to end somehow.
To complete the image of lunatic or esotheric, I have always thought that when Cohen sang "I've seen the future, brother", that he HAD. picked from the air or soil as all resources and music being hidden for us to find. I thought: "He has the same dreams as me". Though for half of my life i had no idea where these dreams were coming from. A bit puzzling for example to live in rural Europe and to dream about a destruction of NY. Or in 2017 about quarantines. Etc. etc. Resulting in this complete detachment, as in "been there, seen the movie, bought the T-shirt".
Which is why i also ended as Cohen: "Hineni, hineni, I'm ready my Lord".
Shalom go live so we can superchat
Sunday!
beautiful video and great/accurate analysis to the points/objections brought up.
🙏 We stand with the truth, we stand with Israel 🕊🇮🇱 Forever!
Thanks kabob saroof
I think some Europeans are trying to lie their way out of their lies. It's slowly becoming more than absurd.
Ya they don't hate all of us, just almost all of us. And they hate us having autonomy. Claiming you don't hate us but you don't want us to have a home where we are from is CRAZY!!!
Truth krome
@@TheTravelingClattyes we hate who kill innocent kids in thousands of numbers
*Tals Videos and discussions shows how education can really shape what we think about history and ourselves. For example, in Israel, the way history is taught sometimes makes people believe Jews have always been in the region for 3000 years. However, historical records show that before many Jews moved there from Europe, and later from Middle Eastern, Arabic, and African countries, there were only about 15,000 indigenous Jews living there. This kind of education can simplify the story a lot and might cover up the true, complex history of the place.*
Because the land was conquered many times The Muslims kicked out Christians and Jews
Muslims bullying Jews and Christians in the region till today. Intimidating and violence
it depends on when (what period of time) do you start referring the population as indigenous.. there were lots of deportations of population in the land throughout thousands of years - for example in 500 CE there were about 2.5M individuals in this land.. while in 1200 CE the population went down to 250K..
This land was part of all the world's empires occupations and had a lot of colonizers that displaced the native population and brought in new nations.
Think about that.. Israel is the connection point of three continents: Asia-Africa-Europe, where most of human's ancient history took place.
This situation is not comparable to the US colonizing the native Americans or to the Australians the native Australians, simply because the land of Israel was never been isolated as those lands been.
The fact that you choose the spot when Arabs (who mostly came throughout the Arab invasion and the Ottoman Empire time-line from places like Egypt, Saudi and Jordan, Kurdistan, Chechnya..) were the native is simply false and unhistorical.
The only nation that has ever independently ruled this land for hundreds of years are the Jews, so many archeological and historical evidences support that
@@danielh1744 Agree 💯
Armenia and Azerbaijan are two more non-European contestants. In September 2023 Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed 100,000 Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh. Did anyone protest the participation of Azerbaijan?
I stopped watching it years ago. It is shambles...pure corruptioon.
This time I watched it only because of Israeli song so I could vote.
Everything else was just sad.
❤🇮🇱
Happy to hear your thoughts
3:52 "Sh.. She... They.... This Person"
man i lost it 😂
Its so refreshing to eventually find SOMEONE that knows their history... So... THANKS !!!😉🙂
Eurovision obviously isn't usually like it was this year, it's usually just about the music and performances. Those Na-zi wannabes might carry on trying to oust Israel from the contest even past this war though, but hopefully they wont. I think those of us in Europe who like Eurovision, the organisers of Eurovision, and the contestants of Eurovision in the upcoming years will call BS on these wannabe Na-zis though, i just have a feeling about that. I feel that if these people don't stop then Eurovision might be a no live audience show for a year or a few years. It goes against the meaning of the whole competition to oust Israel, so, they wont do that.
The claim about Australia is half way because she can use it as proof of how "British colony" links to participating in Eurovision. But it is nothing other than correlation=causation (or A leads to B), which is a problematic conclusion
Yeah but where are the protests
Do you and Barak make the same videos on purpose?
I got advice and inspiration from Barak for this video, since his channel is doing really well, I can always learn from other Ytubers
Tal and Barak have their own unique way of conveying their messages. I enjoy both.
@@TheTravelingClatt can see that your channels are getting to look bookends
Euro vision is not that important. I have lived all over Europe, France, Poland and Sweden and the only place where the average person actually cared or watched Euro vision was in Sweden. My French and Polish friends don't even really notice its existence but maybe that is just my personal experience. Also, wasn't the founder of Euro vision Israeli?
Then they should call it Euro and Mediterranean song contest. That means that Israel excludes the sourounding countries and considers it's self Europeans.
@@C.I366 of just Global vision
The founder of Eurovision was Marcel Bezençon, who was Swiss, in 1956.
Why is everyone who believes in Peace called an anti semite. It's simply not true. I'm irish and our country was controlled by England for centuries. That gives an empathy to Jewish people and Palestinians. I strongly believe that both countries can exist independently of each other in peace. It happened on the island of Ireland which had terrorists from both sides. Only when terrorism was removed and peaceful politics led the way to peace. It can happen.
Just one ?😂 europe's problems are: Corruptions, ignorance, taxes, lonelyness, natality statistics. After maybe the eurovision. Anyway eden was WOW ❤
Ps. Where there is THUNBERG there is something wrong.
We can stay and speak hours about territorial claims. The reality is what we have now, (it is what it is) we should find some peace, try to coexist, respectfully to each other. They speak without knowing. Just a broken disc.
Clatt always has good points.
אני כל כך מאוכזבת. שוודיה אפשרו את זה בכוונה. את כל האנטישמיות. הם נתנו לאנשים עדיפות לקנות כרטיסים אם הם לא ישראלים.
לא עשו שום דבר עם הפוליטיקה של השופטים.
אפשרו התעללות בעדן גולן.
הרבה דברים שרק מוכיחים ששוודיה תומכת באנטישמיות.
My college campus got shut down bc of protest
Oy I'm sorry
what campus was that? cause i could say the same thing and it be a lie
@@NGSPC4Life city college in nyc
@@Andres-ko2hc Jewish people need to start their own schools en masse after this and leave Columbia, Yale, UCLA. It's Jewish students who contribute a lot to make these schools ivy league. We need to make them irrelevant by not donating or attending.
Do you lie a lot then? Because your comment is very strange and pointless unless you're in the process of working through a 12 step program, perhaps? Good luck with learning to be truthful @@NGSPC4Life
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The broadcasters and juries have serious problems. The maximum 8 points from a few countries is puny regarding the actual quality of Hurricane. In Televoting points Croatia won with 337 point and Israel 323. But Israel got maximum televotes from the big countries, meaning Hurricane actually got the lions share of SMS votes (not SMS points), and as such was the most popular.
Gays for Palistine? Like chickens for KFC.
Palestine does not kill and make food out of gays. Try harder
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ESC Jury was definitely anti-Israel. It was the first time I watched ESC and the last time! I felt so sad about they're comments and how Eden Golan has been treated. They should make her feel safe. A young twenty year old singer couldn't feel save there!!!!!!!!Shame on them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6:45. IN 1948, indigenous, Jewish numbers were *estimated to be around 20,000 to 30,000 out of the total Jewish population of about 650,000 at that time.* In 1948, excluding the recent European and other migrant Jewish populations, the *indigenous Jewish community in Palestine was relatively small.* This group, often referred to as the "old Yishuv," comprised Jews who had lived in the region for generations, some tracing their presence back centuries. These families were primarily concentrated in the *four holy cities: Jerusalem, Hebron, Tiberias, and Safed.* Again, their numbers were *estimated to be around 20,000 to 30,000 out of the total Jewish population of about 650,000 at that time.*
I don't know where you're getting your numbers from (TikTok? Jew-hating professors?) but all Jews are indigenous to Israel, just as all Roma (Gypsies) are indigenous to India and all African-Americans are indigenous to Africa. That aside, there was a huge spike in the Arab population in British Palestine from the 1900s to the 1930s. This was the result of a large migration of Arabs from French Syria-Lebanon to British Palestine because of the modern economy that the Yishuv was building. So, actually, many Jews have been in Israel for a lot longer than many Palestinians. (In fact, originally, "Palestinian" was a term associated with the Jews and rejected by the local Arabs who preferred to self-identify as "Syrian," "South Syrian" or just Arab.)
@@condovo In discussions like these, accuracy and respect are crucial. *The figure of 20,000 to 30,000 Jews in 1948, known as the "Old Yishuv," represents those indigenous to the region before the major Zionist immigrations starting in the late 19th century.* Claims that "all Jews are indigenous to Israel" can *oversimplify the rich, global history of Jewish communities and inadvertently erase the profound Jewish presence and cultural evolution over 2000 years in Europe and worldwide.* Moreover, the rapid demographic changes between the early 1900s and the 1930s, driven by jewish immigration, significantly influenced the socio-political dynamics in the region. *Acknowledging these complex histories is essential for an informed and respectful dialogue.*
you were saying She I'm sure that is a they them or zim zur or I would just say IT
Or in this case they are Karen-stinian
7:40 Tal-University protests in America have historically played a significant role in shaping public discourse and influencing policy on global issues. Research suggests that movements like the anti-Vietnam War and anti-apartheid protests at universities were pivotal in altering public opinion and policy, often positioning these movements on the "right side of history."
Well, unlike anti-Vietnam-war and anti-Apartheid, anti-Jew isn't a noble cause.
Terrorism is not activism. Students who are still supporting this protest are ignoring the elephant in the room when those they protest with make genocidal comments.
@@condovo Actions presently criticized by you as anti-jewish, may later be viewed as being on the right side of history, *as evidenced by changing attitudes towards American student movements in the 1960s and 1970s.*
It is not about Israel being bad at the moment, the problem with Israel is that IT IS NOT IN EUROPE, IT IS IN MIDDLE EAST- period
Australia?
Naturally nobody should be believing this crap. Love all race period. I mean friends do drugs you still love them . Then what is this like for real
Believe what?
@TheTravelingClatt long story travil cat media vs holly books and hystry. And holly books and hystry don't lie. Palistine don't have a share land belongs to aberham rightfully it's isreal share do to dedication of aberham. But media will never understand that .
@TheTravelingClatt fact yes love all races regardless no matter what the case is
Isreal 100 percent right from it's prospective of fighting I support you. I'm not sure on zionst but what I do know muslims are told rong against jews do to a belief launched in 1988 or after. That caused alot of problems in many nations belief against jews.
4:11 girl? You sure?
It really sounds like you haven’t seen or heard the news of the IDF killing a six year old Gazan girl and her family and the medics that tried to save them in January. The more atrocities Israel commits the more entrenched the world opinion is about the war you’re supposed are waging.
What’s needed is a level playing field, when the Islamic Brotherhood gains control NOBODY will be allowed to sing..
But its nobodies its isreal @thetravelingclatt . World needs to except palistine identity was developed later.
I literally can’t imagine how frustrating it is for Israeli’s to hear the same old nonsense being spewed by so many clueless people!
11:01 Sure, and if you think nothing’s happening in Australia, you might have missed a few minor details-like centuries of land battles and groundbreaking court decisions. It’s all quiet down under, right? Do you know what happened in 1992?
Eddie Mabo did not do or condone terrorism. The lawyers who represented him did not do or condone terrorism.
The day the land rights movement starts condoning terrorism is the day I stop supporting them.
I didn’t march or participate this year, guess why.
@@freedahlogic8368The biased education that you have received is so colonialistic that it is erasing the Palestinian culture heritage and history.
9:16 In 1974, during the conflict between Greeks and Turks, approximately 1,000 to 2,000 people lost their lives, including Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, and Greeks. This contrasts sharply with the Nakba in 1948, where the death toll ranged from 10,000 to 15,000. Naturally, the significantly higher casualties during the Nakba have drawn more international attention and scrutiny.
Thousands of Jews also died in the 1948 War of Independence, which was only 3 years after the Holocaust BTW. Oh, and there was another "Nakba" which doesn't seem to draw your attention. That's the "Nakba" of 1,000,000 Jews forced out of the Arab World post-1948, far more than the 750,000 Arabs forced out of the new State of Israel. And not all of the Arabs in the Nakba were forced out either. Many left by choice when their leaders promised them a safe return after the Jews' certain annihilation. Well, the Jews won.
Research wider! Like India's partition. Nothing unique about Palistinians except they became world's most privileged "refugees" pass on BS refugee status generationally. And they've made poor decisions since they invented this identity.
@@condovo I think there has been casualties on both sides in any war. Many Germans died fighting the Aliies! That didn't make them the innocent party!
Armenia and Australia is definitely not in Europe. Israel also is definitely not in Europe. Those can all be true
4:25 actually she didn’t say “Jews stole the land”
People believe liars because are to lazy to surch.
I just know god granted the land to aberham. Then he dedicated the land to his son isreal so rightfully it's isreallights home not palistine 😅.
(Yakub) Israel technically his granchild, but okay
@Tamayo.Sama2023 we were told in biblical studys aberham had 3 wives. Isreal the son of Sarah Jacob isreal son would be the grandchild of Aberham.
But doesn't matter religiously, ethnically Jews and Samaritans are the indigenous population. It is where we are from ethnically.
Solid vid
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Sorry, your channel is no fun anymore! Circumstances has changed you from a fun loving traveling guy to someone all tied up in politics, war and opinion commentary. It’s changed you, and I know you said you’re fine with that. I hope some day you find your happy go lucky self again. Sadly unsubscribing as you were so cocky in advising me to do so. Good Luck to you and your future. Peace. :(
See ya bud! Thanks for the time you spent with me ❤️
Not believing in religious/ethno states is not anti-Semitic
9:17 Tal-Cyprus is geographically located at the crossroads of Europe, Asia, and Africa. While it is often *culturally and politically associated with Europe-particularly due to its membership in the European Union* - *geographically, it is situated in the eastern Mediterranean,* close to the Middle East. Its proximity to countries like Turkey, Syria, and Lebanon places it near the region commonly referred to as the Middle East. However, in a strict geographical sense, *Cyprus is usually considered part of Southern Europe or the Eastern Mediterranean rather than the Middle East.* 😊
In a strict geographical sense, Cyprus is part of Asia, not Europe. And Israel is also located at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa. That's not just the case culturally and historically. Even Israel's plant life and animal life reflects this. There are species from Europe, Asia and Africa in Israel and the country is one of the world's largest bird-migration corridors between the continents.
@@condovoCyprus is a member of the EU!😮
Surah Al-Nisa (The Women), verse 135: *"O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted."* (Quran 4:135)
This verse emphasizes the importance of justice and fairness, regardless of personal ties or circumstances, which could be seen as a call for righteous action and integrity in difficult situations.
4:00 Yes, there was resistance from British rule.
11:18 Australia is also not dropping bombs on the aborigines.
Life is short, do you really value who you are as a person?
I like the way Tal makes his points.
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Palistine don't have right on isreal land
Tell that to arab Palestinian who allow hollowcause refugees to their land
@Tamayo.Sama2023 there not even Arab but regardless they never had share on the land .
@Tamayo.Sama2023 only thing that Arab had power over mark for muslims would be Saudia Arabia do to mecca and madina there mark of ismail. But isreal regardless no that's not there share by God. But poltics like hamas changed relgion beliefs by 1988 .
@Tamayo.Sama2023 if Al Aqsa fine god built in jurselim. Because jews do hold respect in islam also judisem muslim hold a role. If Al-Aqsa fine then there should not be a reason for muslims to fight isreallights regardless there gods kids muslims are going against God's order for poltical leader who made this project in 1988.
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Because Jordan and Egypt didn't give them independency between 48 to 67. Even they (Arabic speakers) say there is no such a thing a Palestinian nation.
the idea what you call "Palestine" is to have a continuity of Arabization (Arab colonialism) throughout middle east and expand even more.
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אחי אתה עושה עבודת קודש. המטומטמים האלה לא מקשיבים לאף בן אדם עם עור בהיר יותר ממני או ממך
תודה יגבר!
Why is being antisemitic have more weight and consequences than being Islamophobic?
I love Israel.
Israel forever
I’m a Canaanite. That’s my ancestral homeland
I never understood Eurovision. I don't like the genre and idea. I only watched MTV EMA :)
At 6:02: Considering that Jews have clocked more years hanging out in Europe than in Israel, do you think Christians should cough up some European real estate as reparations? It’s only fair, right? 😅 After centuries of dealing with economic success followed by thuggery-a little land swap might be a nice gesture from European Christians 😂!
I‘m not a Jew but I love the Jews and I love Israel and I support that they have their own state, so technically I‘m a Zionist as well…
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Let people all faiths unite to stop the antisemitic Holocaust of the courageous people of Gaza.
8:40 Tal- the term 'white supremacist' could metaphorically encompass some attitudes and practices within Israeli society that privilege Ashkenazi (European-origin) Jews over Jews from other backgrounds, such as Mizrahi (Middle Eastern and North African) and Ethiopian Jews.
You will agree that, although over the years, there has been a growing presence of non-white Jews in various sectors of society, including politics, media, and the military, reflecting some progress toward integration. However, the pace of change and the depth of integration vary widely among communities and individuals is still prejudicial and European Jews feel more superior and privileged.
Are you Jewish? If not, why are you talking for the Jews? I'm Ashkenazi. I don't feel superior to Mizrahi Jews. I don't know any Ashkenazi who feels superior to Mizrahis. Are we lying?
@@condovoIn Israel, as you know, *there are various Jewish communities with different backgrounds and traditions.* Among these, Ashkenazi Jews from Central and Eastern Europe and Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews from Mediterranean and Middle Eastern countries are significant groups. *It is without doubt, sometimes, tensions arise between these groups* because of differences in their: cultural practices, economic status, and roles in society. *Historically, Ashkenazi Jews have held more political and economic power, which has led to disagreements and feelings of inequality among the communities.*
*However, over time, the distinctions have started to blend somewhat due to intermarriage and social integration, but some underlying tensions still remain.*
2nd. Nabk@ is happening now...shame on You !!!
wonder how it happened...
they arent very good at "nakba'ing" they should read the koran and see how to do a proper nakba..
Yes true, there was 850,000 Jews forced out of the Arab and Muslim countries because Israel became a state. And, now the second Naqba, Jews being attacked in their historic homeland.
yes! another embarrassment to the arab world for waging a war against israel and losing...that is how the first one happened...a syrian man coined that term about how embarrassing the loss to us was! Shame on you for not doing proper history, but I am not expecting much at this point with your lot's hatred
The actual meaning of the original Nakba catastrophe was that the Arab armies didn’t get rid of all the chews
You keep tokenise I'm a brown isnotreal blablabla 😅😅😅😅
That's the world we live in today
It's because we get permission from actual Palestine people to wear this head wrap educational your self
It’s branding, care of the Soviet KGB, when they created the concept of Palestinians as an Arab group to stick it to the US.
Really? Is there an official letter? Serious question.
Lol its not even original! Arafat the nazi protege got help from KGB. Zohair Mohsen admitted it's a fake political identity
.THE VOICE OF THE SILENT PEOPLE. ISRAEL HAS ALWAYS PARTICIPATED WITH OTHER NON-EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, ITS PRESENCE WAS LEGITIMATE AND APPROVED BY THE PEOPLE, IT WON 5th PLACE THROUGH THE VOTES OF A SILENT PEOPLE WHO DECIDED TO SHOW UP.
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