@@transportfoxie - That could be a cracking idea... All the buffet cars seem to have disappeared so instead there could be 'train drive throughs' where they crack open the doors and just lob the food onto the train whilst it's still moving
The US is *NOT* the World. In the place where locomotives/trains/and railways were invented,they are driven on the left. A quick Google search would have told that.
So... similar to “pop” whistles we were instructed to use for wrong direction movements on the tube (along with displaying both head and tail lights at the driving end on older manually switched stocks)
@@matthewmaxwell-burton4549 In NSW we call it SPA working. (Special Proceed Authority). Used to move trains over the wrong line in an emergency. Could also be trackwork, but normally everyone knows what is happening.
Both IC125 & XPT have a form of ABS so I understand; perhaps it's rather rudimentary seeing as wheel flats still occur (especially on the IC125). XPTs tend to be driven in a more leisurely way which may be the reason you rarely hear a wheel flat on them.
Why hasn't bidirectional signalling been morr common in the UK? Over here in Sweden whe have built all lines bidirectional since automatic block signals came into use in the early 50s
@@ballbag That simply isn't true. But I guess fits with the modern idea that rubbishing stuff makes you look clever. Yes some of the routes are very old because we invented railways and expanded them more than other countries at the beginning but the infrastructure itself is not. The UK railway is the most intensively used mixed railway in the world, in average speed terms its among the fastest and it also happens to be the safest in Europe. So it is by no means 'out of date'. And as for investment the UK invests more in its railway infrastructure than Germany. And that was shown in a German survey of European railways.
@@ballbag I meant to add the safety aspect: "Britain’s railways [in 2019] are the safest of the top ten biggest railways in the EU, with 1.4 fatalities per billion train kilometres, (Spain is highest at 89.2, Germany 11.4, France 7.2, EU average: 24.2)" www.rssb.co.uk/en/what-we-do/insights-and-news/news/Britains-railways-still-safest-in-Europe
Except in very congested areas, bi directional signalling when you have two up, two down lines is just unnecessary complication and cost and mostly redundant except in times of problems such as OHLE lines down or signal failures, rail breaks, points motor broken or seized. Signalmen can be deployed at end of affected section armed with detonators, flags and tokens and manually control lines, flagging duty is usually overtime for working signalmen so its only the cost of the actual hours worked compared to hundreds of thousands of pounds of equipment/upkeep to keep a set of mostly redundant signals in operation. Some lines are dual working like the main line between Liverpool St and Ipswich you will see dual running sections with signal blocks for both lines, both directions.
Interesting that this is required. I think in most of central Europe trains would just continue at normal speed like it's nothing out of the ordinary. But then again, we usually also have bidirectional signalling which seems to be nearly inexistant in Britain.
The UK also has handy signs painted on the ground at crosswalks reminding you which direction traffic will come from. This is almost certainly because nobody would expect a westbound train on eastbound tracks (for example).
@@sublivion5024 UA-cam is full of videos to the contrary. Even track layout makes it impossible to easily route a train from the left-hand-side to the right-hand-side without a double-reverse manoeuvre due to the lack of facing point crossovers.
@@szabados1980 the UK has over 16,000km of track which is greatly diverse. A few youtube videos will not correctly represent our infrastructure. In busy areas on most main lines, such as many places in the Brighton mainline and in tunnels and other places where there could be a bottleneck, bi-directional signalling exists and going onto the other side is easy and not that uncommon. Bi directional signalling is rapidly increasing and so is grade separation.
If memory serves me right I thought it was like the sea alarms or the "U's" two short one long which stood for "yo(U) are in danger/my way" which ships signal in times of danger and distress. My father when on flagging duty used to do that with his air horn if double as lookout man as it told the linesman working to stand clear and he would listen for the other end flagging/lookoutman to do the same.
5 Short Blasts means "I am unclear as to your intentions" whilst standing on when another ship does not give way ! International Collision Regulations.
@@esftracksydeomg I mean not with diesels it doesn’t. And anyway France has one of the world’s fastest trains, outside of Japan and possibly China France has the best rail network.
Yes, it did. I believe that the commuters were caught off guard by this. The main cause of the delay though was a roof which had blown onto the line, further to the North.
I'm always amazed how dramatic a situation people make out of a train running in the direction opposite to usual on British railways. In my corner of the world direction of signalling is reversed on any running line routinely. It isn't a big deal. Nobody gets itchy about it. Not even the drivers feel an urge to lean on the horn all along.
Well that's how you maintain such a high safety rating on the railways 'when the 1000 tonnes of metal is on the wrong piece of a busy track do everything you can to make sure it doesn't hit something else'
@@benrgrogan You simply can't unlearn that there's a "right" and a "wrong" direction of travel on a railway track. Just like on the road. If you did, you'd see a whole new perspective. I'm out.
@@szabados1980 when there are 125mph trains running up and down a piece of track every 4 minutes it's probably best to minimise the amount of time a trains spend in the way of other trains...even if that's just for efficiency purposes rarther than safety.
Driver needs to sound the horn for something known as 'wrong lane running procedure'. We don't have bidirectional signalling in the UK because quite a lot of our routes are over 100 years old. This isn't done routinely, because on most stretches of line 125mph trains pass every ten minutes or so, sometimes less. According to ORR statistics, the UK has a Passenger Deaths per Million Miles (DPM) figure of 0.5, which places us among the safest rail networks in the world. There's a reason it's that low, and put it this way: it's not because our drivers ignore safety procedures.
@@benrgroganYou probably drive a car but have no idea how trains are operated. They don't randomly run along a section of track whenever the timetable requires or the driver is in the right mood. Every single train must be authorised, usually by singals, to proceed and run along a section of track to the next signal. Interlocking ensures no two trains can be on a collision course, reach up with the previous train or run on conflicting routes in a junction. The horn won't help avoiding an accident even at 40 km/h (whatever it is in your old money). Are red flags still in use to scare everybody away?
Because the signals are not bidirectional the driver is travelling blind (he cannot see the signals bacause they are facing away from him). Hence the slow speed and warning horn.
@@ontherailsuk You must be easily pleased. I think I was very kind and generous when I thought it was 1/10. Seeing your comment made me revisit the video. To be fair to the viewer and producer, I think 1/100 is a better rating.
You're all wrong, this horn blast means they've run out of crisps
Whaaaaa?
Lol
They're going at a slow speed so people can throw any and all crisps they have because the buffet has run out of them
@@transportfoxie I don't think so
@@transportfoxie - That could be a cracking idea... All the buffet cars seem to have disappeared so instead there could be 'train drive throughs' where they crack open the doors and just lob the food onto the train whilst it's still moving
HST: Driving on the right side
Me, who lives in the US: "I see no problem here!"
So true
But in UK, driving is on left side.
That and most US tracks are bidirectional..
The US is *NOT* the World. In the place where locomotives/trains/and railways were invented,they are driven on the left. A quick Google search would have told that.
@@Boypogikami132 r/wooosh
Reminds me of when Gordon and Edward went on the wrong road except they didn’t realised it
Except now it's Pip and Emma.
@@joesniffin8829 lol
I do that every time I drive off Eurostar. Easy to forget. Driver probably just got back from his holiday.
Main line on the continent drives on the left aswell...
So... similar to “pop” whistles we were instructed to use for wrong direction movements on the tube (along with displaying both head and tail lights at the driving end on older manually switched stocks)
Great to see a train in the UK run at top speed. what a majestic sight!
top speed?
@@peridotfacet2r7p-5xr2 It's about 20 mph faster than the last train I was on.
lmfao
@@upthebracket26 zd
@@upthebracket26 Chad Valley was it?
I’d love to know how he ended up running wrong road. The wheelflat was very pronounced. I wouldn’t have liked to have been in that coach.
It's not the driver but the signalman who sent him that way. Might have been a closure on the other track.
@Zechariah Justice Wow! This is total horsepiss! Nobody should listen to you!
@@matthewmaxwell-burton4549 In NSW we call it SPA working. (Special Proceed Authority). Used to move trains over the wrong line in an emergency. Could also be trackwork, but normally everyone knows what is happening.
Nice wheel flat there on the 3rd or 2nd to last coach.
I was thinking that too!
Is it the thumping sound thats the wheel flat?
@@kyleJohn1997 Yep.
Probably been driving with the handbrake on...
Wheel flats? We call them “threpney”bits in the trade 😉
Both IC125 & XPT have a form of ABS so I understand; perhaps it's rather rudimentary seeing as wheel flats still occur (especially on the IC125).
XPTs tend to be driven in a more leisurely way which may be the reason you rarely hear a wheel flat on them.
0:32nice horn from that HST
That’s not an emergency horn code, it’s the horn code for a train doing a wrong direction move which is a series of short blasts on the high tone
Yes, he said that...
He called it an emergency code when it isn’t
@@jay-xo9dx fair enough
Talk about nitpicking lmao
@@KasabianFan44 It's true though, it's not an emergency
Is this just north of Peterborough? I think I recognise the track layout
It is
That's the Dukesmead crossing bridge
Nice catch
Why hasn't bidirectional signalling been morr common in the UK? Over here in Sweden whe have built all lines bidirectional since automatic block signals came into use in the early 50s
Yeh Im pretty surprised too. We have it the same here in the Netherlands at least on most lines.
Because government controls railway spending really strictly and it would be too expensive, supposedly.
@@ballbag That simply isn't true. But I guess fits with the modern idea that rubbishing stuff makes you look clever.
Yes some of the routes are very old because we invented railways and expanded them more than other countries at the beginning but the infrastructure itself is not. The UK railway is the most intensively used mixed railway in the world, in average speed terms its among the fastest and it also happens to be the safest in Europe. So it is by no means 'out of date'.
And as for investment the UK invests more in its railway infrastructure than Germany. And that was shown in a German survey of European railways.
@@ballbag I meant to add the safety aspect:
"Britain’s railways [in 2019] are the safest of the top ten biggest railways in the EU, with 1.4 fatalities per billion train kilometres, (Spain is highest at 89.2, Germany 11.4, France 7.2, EU average: 24.2)"
www.rssb.co.uk/en/what-we-do/insights-and-news/news/Britains-railways-still-safest-in-Europe
Except in very congested areas, bi directional signalling when you have two up, two down lines is just unnecessary complication and cost and mostly redundant except in times of problems such as OHLE lines down or signal failures, rail breaks, points motor broken or seized. Signalmen can be deployed at end of affected section armed with detonators, flags and tokens and manually control lines, flagging duty is usually overtime for working signalmen so its only the cost of the actual hours worked compared to hundreds of thousands of pounds of equipment/upkeep to keep a set of mostly redundant signals in operation. Some lines are dual working like the main line between Liverpool St and Ipswich you will see dual running sections with signal blocks for both lines, both directions.
Bae: Come home.
Driver: I can't, I'm operating the fastest diesel powered train in the world.
Bae: My parents aren't home.
Driver:
Interesting that this is required. I think in most of central Europe trains would just continue at normal speed like it's nothing out of the ordinary. But then again, we usually also have bidirectional signalling which seems to be nearly inexistant in Britain.
I would assume it's got something to do with potencial persons on track
Bi directional signalling is very common in Britain
The UK also has handy signs painted on the ground at crosswalks reminding you which direction traffic will come from. This is almost certainly because nobody would expect a westbound train on eastbound tracks (for example).
@@sublivion5024 UA-cam is full of videos to the contrary. Even track layout makes it impossible to easily route a train from the left-hand-side to the right-hand-side without a double-reverse manoeuvre due to the lack of facing point crossovers.
@@szabados1980 the UK has over 16,000km of track which is greatly diverse. A few youtube videos will not correctly represent our infrastructure. In busy areas on most main lines, such as many places in the Brighton mainline and in tunnels and other places where there could be a bottleneck, bi-directional signalling exists and going onto the other side is easy and not that uncommon. Bi directional signalling is rapidly increasing and so is grade separation.
Chuga choo choo! I'm a train and I approve this video!
Very British, a fast train going slow.
@@deadaccount2048 wut
Is this near where they are building the dive under for the Spalding line?
Absolutely! Right at the end of Werrington
Probably a stupid question but is this a diesel powered train ?
If memory serves me right I thought it was like the sea alarms or the "U's" two short one long which stood for "yo(U) are in danger/my way" which ships signal in times of danger and distress. My father when on flagging duty used to do that with his air horn if double as lookout man as it told the linesman working to stand clear and he would listen for the other end flagging/lookoutman to do the same.
5 Short Blasts means "I am unclear as to your intentions" whilst standing on when another ship does not give way ! International Collision Regulations.
American here.
1: That horn is so quiet lol
2: Didn't know other countries actually had directions assigned to each track
there's always an intended direction for each track, NE corridor also has that
We do i thought. Like the NS Chicago Main
@@ronylouis0 Well I guess that makes sense for the electrified high-speed corridors. I live over in Seattle, so we don't have electrified tracks.
@@thegamingrhino5864 Freight right-of-ways typically don't, at least not on the BNSF.
@@everettrailfan because it's mostly single track with different train lengths and a bad switch and lights infrastructure
Carriage wheel was definitely spalling or shelling ,problem with jammed axle ?
Oooooo wheel flat. I forgot about the horns on these haha
World's fastest diesel powered train, everyone.
It gets better once you leave the continent of Europe lmao
@@esftracksydeomg I mean not with diesels it doesn’t. And anyway France has one of the world’s fastest trains, outside of Japan and possibly China France has the best rail network.
Was that a wheel flat or somebody running on the footbridge, sounded like coach C or D ?
I'm pretty sure it was a wheel flat. There was nobody else around at the time, which eliminates the possibility of somebody running across the bridge.
0.05 Genuinely thought he was going to play the Imperial March from Star Wars
😂😂😂
Did it cause confusion and delay?
Yes, it did. I believe that the commuters were caught off guard by this. The main cause of the delay though was a roof which had blown onto the line, further to the North.
update video liked very much. Take care.
Being taken out of service due to severe wheel flat.
Why is that standard procedure? No other train should be on that track so for whom is that information?
Any railway workers who might happen to be beside the tracks and not necessarily aware that a train is going the wrong way.
50mph max and 10mph over facing pionts hence the reduced speed
Single Line Working. Quite common.
I'm always amazed how dramatic a situation people make out of a train running in the direction opposite to usual on British railways. In my corner of the world direction of signalling is reversed on any running line routinely. It isn't a big deal. Nobody gets itchy about it. Not even the drivers feel an urge to lean on the horn all along.
Well that's how you maintain such a high safety rating on the railways 'when the 1000 tonnes of metal is on the wrong piece of a busy track do everything you can to make sure it doesn't hit something else'
@@benrgrogan You simply can't unlearn that there's a "right" and a "wrong" direction of travel on a railway track. Just like on the road. If you did, you'd see a whole new perspective. I'm out.
@@szabados1980 when there are 125mph trains running up and down a piece of track every 4 minutes it's probably best to minimise the amount of time a trains spend in the way of other trains...even if that's just for efficiency purposes rarther than safety.
Driver needs to sound the horn for something known as 'wrong lane running procedure'. We don't have bidirectional signalling in the UK because quite a lot of our routes are over 100 years old. This isn't done routinely, because on most stretches of line 125mph trains pass every ten minutes or so, sometimes less. According to ORR statistics, the UK has a Passenger Deaths per Million Miles (DPM) figure of 0.5, which places us among the safest rail networks in the world. There's a reason it's that low, and put it this way: it's not because our drivers ignore safety procedures.
@@benrgroganYou probably drive a car but have no idea how trains are operated. They don't randomly run along a section of track whenever the timetable requires or the driver is in the right mood. Every single train must be authorised, usually by singals, to proceed and run along a section of track to the next signal. Interlocking ensures no two trains can be on a collision course, reach up with the previous train or run on conflicting routes in a junction. The horn won't help avoiding an accident even at 40 km/h (whatever it is in your old money). Are red flags still in use to scare everybody away?
Frequent? it only tooted twice
A typical example of british safety overregulation assuming bi-directional signalling on this track is present.
Why was it running on the wrong road?
There had been some high speed winds the previous day - blew some factory roof onto the line further up the track, towards Donington.
Indo: the click any video they see if the video has their flag on the thumbnail
Phil: does the same bish
He's just reversing that's all 🤣🤣
Well, wasn’t that exciting?
Guard: Turn this train around now!
Driver: Why!?
Guard: A passenger found an old British Rail sandwich. And eat it.
Driver: _MY GOD_
Wanker comment.
@@stevelomas4119 Haters gonna hate, and late trains gonna be late.
Guard: Administer him crisps now! He won't live for long if we don't!
No this just sounds like a duck on a megaphone
i didnt get what does this video mean
Seriously, why?
By the time the other train's driver would hear that it would be too late, and aren't block sections meant to keep them apart anyway?
Its for track workers who may not be aware trains are travelling on the 'wrong' road.
Because the signals are not bidirectional the driver is travelling blind (he cannot see the signals bacause they are facing away from him). Hence the slow speed and warning horn.
Where was this taken at? I’d appreciate the address.
Hurn Road, Werrington, Peterborough PE6 7HJ
GPS Coordinates:
52.6180350, -0.2960880
Rusty - Bloodhook thanks
I think it's got a puncture or had a blowout lol 😂🤣😅
High Speed Train my arse. Audio is definitely taken from an episode of Thomas the Tank Engine.
Needs a tyre!
sounds like a Car horn
Why was he twooting like that
Read descrition
To warn track workers the train was approaching from the opposite track that it was meant to be on
0:06
That horns too quit
Next time, mirror the video.
Then, the train is on the right hand side and Americans better understand the joke.
( This was a joke
Dated equipment
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I did not enjoy this video at all. Sorry. 1/10
Don't worry, I'm sure that there are plenty more videos out there for you to enjoy.
I did. Thank you. 10/10
@@ontherailsuk You must be easily pleased. I think I was very kind and generous when I thought it was 1/10. Seeing your comment made me revisit the video. To be fair to the viewer and producer, I think 1/100 is a better rating.