Nah. They missed the mark here. It died quickly. They got it right when they did Psycho Sid a few years later. This gimmick was halfway to Psycho Sid but not all the way there.
@@taekwondotime - Agreed about missing the mark. Mercy was unleashed about three years after the 'Cape Fear' remake came out. He carried it off well but injury and age caught up with him before he could see it through, he's admitted this.
I disagree with Jim nothing personal but people love this gimmick and are still talking about it today. I do agree though dan was too old and beat up if You watch his matches there very short and he never really falls or take a bump.
I think Cornette is letting his personal opinion of Dan cloud his judgement on Waylon Mercy. It was a great gimmick and finally gave Dan something to really work with and buy into and you could see it. He became Waylon Mercy and it was really captivating to see. There is a reason why people still talk about Waylon Mercy almost 30 years later. It really clicked and if Dan was younger when he did the gimmick, it would have been a pure classic. Jim is way off base here
Jim Cornette said it here to start with. Also he beat tf out of Adrian Adonis which didn’t do him any favors. Spivey was actually great and should have been a bigger star.
@60BloodyChamp60 He gave Adrian every chance to stop leg diving him. FAFO. Spivey was a real life tough guy no matter what anyone thinks of his career.
If what I got from this is correct, Jim agrees that the Waylon Mercy character/gimmick was good. It's just that Dan Spivey wasn't the guy to pull it off.
He only not lasted very long when a jackknife powerbomb from Diesel messed up his back and he couldn't wrestle anymore. But he would've been a good manager for Bray Wyatt.
Waylon Mercy was a missed opportunity with the potential to be a great character. This has always been one of my biggest issues with Cornette his complete lack of ability to be objective and give an honest critique about those he doesn't like.
Exactly, Cornette talks about all of the uninspired characters out there for WWF in 1995 and then lumps Waylon Mercy in with them just because he doesn't care for Spivey, when more accurately he contrasted greatly from the cartoonist tone which those characters represented. The majority of people watching wrestling didn't know that he was based on Max Cady back then and the character came across as something more out of left field. Would have taken off if Danny Spivey didn't have to fold due to his body breaking down.
Yep it was a great charecter..cornette is so biased it’s not even funny..buries ppl he doesn’t like questioning Spivey’s injuries..straight clown along with the other dude on this podcast legit never has a diff opinion just goes along with waeva cornette says..main reason I stopped listening
I agree with like 99% of Jim's views, but in this case, he's not even in the general ballpark of sanity. Yes, Spivey was bad in the ring at this point, but his character work with Waylon Mercy was some of the best I've ever seen in wrestling. Everything from the Southern drawl to the expressions and inflections to the substance of the promos was pitch-perfect. It wasn't overdone, and the combination of matter-of-fact observations, like in that picnic promo he did, and air of seething menace was brilliant. This guy was creepy and scary, and if Spivey had gotten this gimmick five years earlier, he would've been working on top for years and we'd still be talking about Waylon Mercy as an all-time great heel.
Here is what Jim forgets, WWF back then was catering to kids more than adults. It wasn’t that southern wrestling style. It was gimmicks and characters. The reason Waylon worked so well was because a kid from 8-13 didn’t see the movie Cape Fear. They just thought it was a very creepy guy. Spivey had great facials and sold the nice guy up front, Serial killer underneath gimmick better than anyone could. His slow speech and accent seemed genuine and the only criticism I had was the goofy tattoos. Long story short, the character died because the wrestler was injured. Amazing Jim says he doesn’t understand how he could get hurt because he didn’t take any bumps. Are you serious? You can get hurt by walking into the ring. Shame that this character didn’t play out full term but he obviously was important to revive wiTh Bray Wyatt.
@@briansickboy The dagger tattoo was sick. It looked like something a psychopath who had just been released from a 30 year prison sentence would have. The fact that he looked a little beat up and past his prime was good for the gimmick but bad for the wrestling.
Agree with Jim on a lot a things but not here. I thought the promos and character were solid, loved how Mercy would act professional and polite till the bell rang then totally change his demeanor. Adam bomb was a pretty good character/gimmick too imo
I love and respect Jim Cornette, but this is one instance where I disagree with him 100%. Waylon Mercy was such a great, underrated, and influential character. Way ahead of his time and should have gotten a bigger push.
Jim obviously is very knowledgable without question, but I do think he at times brings personal dislike of guys into his thoughts. With more time the gimmick and Spivey could’ve evolved into something pretty good in my book.
Jim Cornett is wrong about this. I missed the boat on Waylon back in the day because I didn't watch for a bit. I discovered him through UA-cam. What.. a ... fucking... character. His seeming friendliness until that bell rung was amazing. I'm not doing this any justice with mere words. What a fucking character though. I found him to be amazing even based on Max Cady.
Wow,.... As usual Jim Cornett is Spot On about Danny Spivey. Big guy, but there was something about his physique that was always Off to me and I think Jim hit the nail on the head there. Spivey was just tall enough to make Sid look smaller and not anywhere near muscular enough to be physically imposing, either. Although the guy was a Legitimate Bad Ass, his Work in the ring was never really amazing or stand out, either.
He has a lot of fans in the comments but I have been watching Spivy matches again and he seemed fairly average. That isn't a real knock or anything he just was not amazing.
@@stacy3185 Not really, it was a combination of All of those things, I think. Spivey just didn't stand out, Enough... In any one thing, really. That was his problem, I think.
Always loved the potential of Waylon Mercy. Spivey just had nothing left in the gas tank when he got to the WWF. A shame. Thought I read that Vince absolutely loved the gimmick. If he’d been healthy, I’m sure Mercy could have been a challenger for the Hitman‘s title.
I don't believe that Bret would have had a problem dropping the title to spivey before departing WWE had he been around. This character was brilliant. An appropriate angle could have been generated between those two. This gimmick was believable. We must never forget that wrestling is heel driven. The heel must be able to convince the audience and sell. It's the only way wrestling works
If not for the injuries, Spivey was perfect for Waylon Mercy. It seems like Cornette has something personal against Spivey, but I always liked Spivey's work. Agree to disagree.
I loved the Waylon Mercy character. For being based on Cape Feare, it was pretty different and new for wrestling. Bray Wyatt was the remix of Mercy at first and I had wished before they ruined him that they could have gotten Spivey to come back as Waylon Mercy in a managerial role for a little bit to be like the cult leader inspiration for Bray. I would have popped for a video package of old man Waylon as the one in the rocking chair in the abandoned shack saying "Lives are gonna be... in the Wyatt Family's hands." Maybe holding a big tattered book in his hands that had "The Book of Mercy" etched on the cover. Then once Bray reached that point where he grew too big to be coddled anymore, that's when he and his heavies turn on Waylon and beat him down as Spivey was fixing to wrap up that tenure. But, NOPE, Vince as usual put the pedal to the metal and cartooned Bray up in record time because he thought he made a new Undertaker, not realizing that the Undertaker gimmick worked because it was the right guy at the right time in an era when kayfabe still carried water and the fans were easier to work over. Bray needed to be on a far slower burn and kept away from the "sports entertainment" supernatural shit. All he had to be was a new take on Waylon Mercy with a tinge of Charles Manson and Reverend Jim Jones.
I used to like how HHH would lay the back of his hand across the small of his back and feign injury whenever he got hit a little too hard or thrown out hard from the ring back then, pretending to be a weak, spineless, British pompous fool,... He was year's ahead of the Norman Smiley gimmick, lol... I seriously would have liked to have seen that part go on longer too, lol....
i think the gimmick would've worked for spivey because he was mostly a brawler and so if he just worked as a brutal stalker of his opponent (like the movie) then it could've probably been the best gimmick for him. the singular problem was at that point he was completely broken down physically. even walking to the ring you could deal he beat up from the waist down ... and i didn't particularly like spivey in any way. but i don't think his lack of talent was the problem with the waylon mercy gimmick
I remember Waylon Mercy as a kid,his character scared me as he looked like a kidnapper, someone that would just grab u throw u in his van and speed off and u are never seen alive again gave some creepy vibes but I was only 9 in 1995 soo.
WCW house show at the Norfolk Scope in 1990 with Ric Flair as champion: 6,500 WCW house show at the Norfolk Scope in 1992 with Ron Simmons as champion: 300
Bull Buchanan was rumored to reboot this character back in 2003 before he became Cena's rapper lacky as B-Squared. On Raw back in 2011, Mick Foley was bringing out people from John Cena's past. Bull Buchanan claimed that Cena ruined his life.
I don't disagree with Jim about too much but this is one time I'm going to. I always liked Danny he was a real life tough guy and carried that attitude into the ring. Waylon was a great gimmick. Was Spivey difficult in the ring? Evidently. Did he have the career everyone thought he would? Probably not. But he had a great run and thats pretty rare.
"Dangerous" Dan Spivey (the Skyscrapers tag-team in WCW: "(P)Sycho" Sid Vicious/Justice, "Mean" Mark Callous; manager: Theodore/Teddy (R.) Long) = in the WWF/WWE, he became Waylon Mercy (Robert DeNiro / Robert Mitchum - as the "Max Cady" (southern gentleman/psychopath) character for the "Cape Fear" movies => Bray Wyatt (the Wyatt Family stable); The Plumber (T.L. Hopper) = "Dirty White Boy" Tony Anthony...
Jim may think it is rotten but that's not what the majority of fans thought. Dan was so over with the fans because of his personality. He was very polite, respectful, cordial, courteous, friendly, outgoing towards the fans which is probably what he was outside the ring. The fact that he has the balls to shake everyone's hand as a heel was somewhere innovative nobody did that before unless you count Jessie "The Body" Ventura the heel announcer accepting and acknowledging the cheers from the crowd in front of the camera. I loved how he would pump his fists as they would chant "JESSIE! JESSIE! JESSIE!" So you might say Jessie is the first heel to embrace the fans and other people followed
Until recently proven otherwise, I could have sworn that I remember Waylon Mercy from the VERY early 90s, and seeing him in WWF Magazine or stickerbooks alongside the likes of, say, Nailz and Kamala. Turns out that I'm misremembering.
@@jerryalexander8803 I really hate how that went from being a very specific scenario (people who "remembered" Mandela being at an event they were at when he wasn't), to people misremembering when Mandela died, to just a phrase people throw out to explain plain old forgetfulness with some time-travel multiverse implications. Fuckin' Internet.
It was definitely the De Niro interpretation of that character, it was easy to copy because it was a blown-up caricature in the first place. A convincing Mitch era Cady would have been ... the best thing ever to happen in wrestling, but no-one could have done it.
I get what Jim is saying here, he didnt think the gimmick worked for Dan, in short. COULD the gimmick went elswhere, be a little more refined/better? Maybe (and years later, after a little polish and a new face, DID with Bray Wyatt), but Dan did it well for that time. More than well, in my opinion.
If you saw him in the mid 80's WWF, he looked like Hulk Hogans almost twin brother. Down to the yellow trunks and boots. Minus the build and the charisma. Kind of like Kendall to Barry Windham. Interestingly enough Spivey replaced Windham in the US Express and teamed with Rotundo until Mike left the company and then they stuck him with some jobber guy who I am blanking on the name at the moment, and they dressed like a jobber version of the US express. Mostly losing at house shows and stuff.
Jim loves to talk and has much knowledge but he was off on this one.. First off Dan Spivey was deceptively huge as he was symmetrical, he was not 6'5, he was the same height as Undertaker, watch the matches him and undertaker did as a tag team, he weighed between 280 and 310 lbs.. Second, Spivey just got done with a tour in Japan when he was introduced by WWE to this Mercy gimmick, Spivey was with injury at this time and decided to do it and did it until about a year when he got surgery he put off.. When Spivey is in public, especially at wrestling entities as well as fan mail, he is surprised at the number of fans who still ask about the Waylon Mercy character, as it was only a short term and really not the main defining character of his wrestling career.. So Jim.. if this character was not a draw,, why is everyone wanting to talk about it to this day???
WWF in the mid 90s was so horrible for gimmicks it was absolutely brutal! I don't know what Vince was thinking! I can remember as a kid going what is this crap?!
He was never given the true credit he deserves he was never given the push that he deserved Batman should have been just as famous if not more than the Undertaker and that's being straight up I mean he had the character on point whether it was Dangerous Dan Spivey or Waylon Mercy either way nobody could do it as well as him he'll always be one of my favorites as a matter of fact I think a wrestling is pretty much dead now I mean they're trying to take Bray Wyatt away Tim and Alexa Bliss is the only reason I watch anymore The Undertaker's gone however whenever they do make special appearances I keep up but I would really love to see you Waylon mercy and Bray Wyatt in some way shape or form that would be just so f****** awesome
Well I do know for a fact he had a hell of a punch on him there's a lot of stories from where a certain somebody about got their head took off by the man he don't take no s*** I really wish they would bring him back in some way shape or form cuz with Waylon Mercy everything could be peaceful ... Know what I mean
I thought he had a great gimmick, maybe not world champion material, but million dollar man Ted dibiase potential, he was never world champion either, but he was a threat to the top face wrestlers
The gimmick could have been good if they would have given him better vignettes in the character would have been worked on a little bit better so and do part I do agree with what he is saying but at the same time if given time maybe it would have enhanced his character a lot better he would have gone places.
Cornette a hater..questioning why he was hurt he didn’t take any bumps? Wow..Waylon mercy was a great gimmick & it’s still talked about to this day..bray Wyatt before the fact..thank u Danny respect bro
Spivey was broken down, he looked like shit, physically His work bland and looked like shit HE was bland and looked like shit His promos were bland and looked like shit
Dan Spivey is got to be at least 6'7 or 6'8. I met him back in the late 80,s at a wrestling event and got his autograph. I'm 6'5 and he was at least two to three inches taller than me. So Jim Cornette is definitely wrong about his height.
Dan Spivey played football for Vince Dooley and Erk Russell at Georgia in the early 1970s. Legitimate dude. Spivey is not the best wrestler but Jesus Christ, Corny is wrong here.
Waylon Mercy was starting to be successful. My buddies in middle school joked about how funny it was and how he truly came off as a psychopath. So for a rare time on wrestling I disagree with Jim Cornette.
Waylon Mercy's promos were great, Cornette is the type of guy who'll criticise something you did that was great just because it was you that did it I can't stand Vince Russo but sometimes I'm starting to think some of the stuff Cornette says is actually bullshit just to bury him Lets put it in perspective: Ask Cornette who did better promos, Waylon Mercy or Bobby Eaton? He would probably say Bobby Eaton even though I still don't know what Eatons voice actually sounds like as I've never heard it Cornette is hilarious and a great interview, but take what he says seriously? Very rarely
Nah, Jim is full of shit, here. It's still spoken of today. The shit was fresh, and based on a more serious approach compared to what the WWF was doing at the time. I remember when they started pushing Steve Austin as Stone Cold, and not the SCSA that we all know of today, but the initial variation of him that hardly ever spoke, but looked serious all the time. I was just happy that they finally had a character that wasn't based off of a damn tradesman. Sean O'Haire was another amiable wasted, gimmick. For some reason, they throw anything remotely interesting straight out the damn window.
I agree, I have no idea why he's bashing the character and/or Spivey saying they should've given the gimmick to someone who could play it properly. I don't know anyone who could've done a better job with it, for as long as it lasted anyway. Maybe there's some personal animosity between them because the main reason it didn't last was because Dan was in such bad shape at this point that he had to retire
Waylon aka Danny Spivey, was Ahead Of it’s time, GREAT CHARACTER
Nah. They missed the mark here. It died quickly. They got it right when they did Psycho Sid a few years later. This gimmick was halfway to Psycho Sid but not all the way there.
@@taekwondotime - Agreed about missing the mark. Mercy was unleashed about three years after the 'Cape Fear' remake came out. He carried it off well but injury and age caught up with him before he could see it through, he's admitted this.
He got the Gimmick from Vince. He had nothing to Do with it. He was a Bad worker. Period
I disagree with Jim nothing personal but people love this gimmick and are still talking about it today. I do agree though dan was too old and beat up if You watch his matches there very short and he never really falls or take a bump.
I saw him as a kid on TV and still talk about him and to this day.
I think Cornette is letting his personal opinion of Dan cloud his judgement on Waylon Mercy. It was a great gimmick and finally gave Dan something to really work with and buy into and you could see it. He became Waylon Mercy and it was really captivating to see. There is a reason why people still talk about Waylon Mercy almost 30 years later. It really clicked and if Dan was younger when he did the gimmick, it would have been a pure classic. Jim is way off base here
Jim Cornette said it here to start with. Also he beat tf out of Adrian Adonis which didn’t do him any favors. Spivey was actually great and should have been a bigger star.
@60BloodyChamp60 He gave Adrian every chance to stop leg diving him. FAFO. Spivey was a real life tough guy no matter what anyone thinks of his career.
Disagree with Jim. Waylon Mercy was a great character. Coulda shoulda...
If what I got from this is correct, Jim agrees that the Waylon Mercy character/gimmick was good. It's just that Dan Spivey wasn't the guy to pull it off.
I really like the Waylon Mercy. I thought he would have been amazing to bring in to manage Bray Wyatt.
Waylon Mercy would have been a great character, problem was he played by Danny Spivey. He was one of the most boring wrestlers ever.
@@leeberry689 Dan Spivey is what made the character work in the first place are u joking or is there something wrong with u
@@Luispbringstheheat REALLY???
HOW LONG DID HE LAST ?
NUFF SAID.
He only not lasted very long when a jackknife powerbomb from Diesel messed up his back and he couldn't wrestle anymore. But he would've been a good manager for Bray Wyatt.
Funny you say that, since Dan Spivey is the one who helped Bray Wyatt with his gimmick...
I’m going to start buying Hawaiian shirts and white pants and dressing like Waylon from now on
Lives are gonna be....... in Waylon mercies hands
I loved when he DDT'd the jobber on the floor and then told the referee that he "slipped."
That was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
lmao
Wwf gimmicks in the 90s were like an expanded version of the village people
Hahahaha!!!
Waylon Mercy was awesome...Cornette is just salty about his experience with him in WCW..
I agree .... and tell me Bray Wyatt didn't get inspiration from this
He definitely wasn't awesome, as a kid i was just puzzled by him. He never fit within the WWF confines of the time...
Waylon Mercy was a missed opportunity with the potential to be a great character. This has always been one of my biggest issues with Cornette his complete lack of ability to be objective and give an honest critique about those he doesn't like.
Exactly, Cornette talks about all of the uninspired characters out there for WWF in 1995 and then lumps Waylon Mercy in with them just because he doesn't care for Spivey, when more accurately he contrasted greatly from the cartoonist tone which those characters represented. The majority of people watching wrestling didn't know that he was based on Max Cady back then and the character came across as something more out of left field. Would have taken off if Danny Spivey didn't have to fold due to his body breaking down.
Yep it was a great charecter..cornette is so biased it’s not even funny..buries ppl he doesn’t like questioning Spivey’s injuries..straight clown along with the other dude on this podcast legit never has a diff opinion just goes along with waeva cornette says..main reason I stopped listening
I agree, Waylon was a great character and really could've fit in with other horror characters like Mankind in 96 and Kane in 97.
I agree with like 99% of Jim's views, but in this case, he's not even in the general ballpark of sanity. Yes, Spivey was bad in the ring at this point, but his character work with Waylon Mercy was some of the best I've ever seen in wrestling. Everything from the Southern drawl to the expressions and inflections to the substance of the promos was pitch-perfect. It wasn't overdone, and the combination of matter-of-fact observations, like in that picnic promo he did, and air of seething menace was brilliant. This guy was creepy and scary, and if Spivey had gotten this gimmick five years earlier, he would've been working on top for years and we'd still be talking about Waylon Mercy as an all-time great heel.
Waylon Mercy acted like a face to everyone but his opponent, I love how unique he was.
Here is what Jim forgets, WWF back then was catering to kids more than adults. It wasn’t that southern wrestling style. It was gimmicks and characters. The reason Waylon worked so well was because a kid from 8-13 didn’t see the movie Cape Fear. They just thought it was a very creepy guy. Spivey had great facials and sold the nice guy up front, Serial killer underneath gimmick better than anyone could. His slow speech and accent seemed genuine and the only criticism I had was the goofy tattoos.
Long story short, the character died because the wrestler was injured. Amazing Jim says he doesn’t understand how he could get hurt because he didn’t take any bumps. Are you serious? You can get hurt by walking into the ring.
Shame that this character didn’t play out full term but he obviously was important to revive wiTh Bray Wyatt.
Agreed..questioning a wrestlers injuries when u in the business is wild..should of looked in the mirror & questioned his ancient booking.
I Disagree about the tattoos. They were crude and added to his psychopathy
@@briansickboy The dagger tattoo was sick. It looked like something a psychopath who had just been released from a 30 year prison sentence would have. The fact that he looked a little beat up and past his prime was good for the gimmick but bad for the wrestling.
@@jimmyjakes1823 hell yeah. Definitely
I liked the Cape fear gimmick
One of my earliest memories of wrestling was Golden boy Danny Spivey teaming with Mike Rotundo in WWF.
Agree with Jim on a lot a things but not here. I thought the promos and character were solid, loved how Mercy would act professional and polite till the bell rang then totally change his demeanor.
Adam bomb was a pretty good character/gimmick too imo
I love and respect Jim Cornette, but this is one instance where I disagree with him 100%. Waylon Mercy was such a great, underrated, and influential character. Way ahead of his time and should have gotten a bigger push.
Waylon Mercy was one of the greatest what ifs.
Wrestling doink, crowd started chanting kill the clown lol
Lives are gonna be in Waylon Mercy's hands you know what I mean heh heh heh ha.
Jim obviously is very knowledgable without question, but I do think he at times brings personal dislike of guys into his thoughts.
With more time the gimmick and Spivey could’ve evolved into something pretty good in my book.
He is literally describing 2013 Bray Wyatt lol
Jim Cornett is wrong about this. I missed the boat on Waylon back in the day because I didn't watch for a bit. I discovered him through UA-cam. What.. a ... fucking... character. His seeming friendliness until that bell rung was amazing. I'm not doing this any justice with mere words. What a fucking character though. I found him to be amazing even based on Max Cady.
have a nice little picnic with some fried chicken and some potato salad and some hot dogs and maybe some hamburgers to go along with all that stuff
Wow,.... As usual Jim Cornett is Spot On about Danny Spivey. Big guy, but there was something about his physique that was always Off to me and I think Jim hit the nail on the head there. Spivey was just tall enough to make Sid look smaller and not anywhere near muscular enough to be physically imposing, either. Although the guy was a Legitimate Bad Ass, his Work in the ring was never really amazing or stand out, either.
He has a lot of fans in the comments but I have been watching Spivy matches again and he seemed fairly average. That isn't a real knock or anything he just was not amazing.
Sid is taller than him lol.
Spivey didn't need to be muscular built,Cornette overblowning this
@@stacy3185 Not really, it was a combination of All of those things, I think. Spivey just didn't stand out, Enough... In any one thing, really. That was his problem, I think.
@@chipchippahson Eh, I think so, but it's really hard to tell from their pictures and Sid was still growing at that point, too.
Always loved the potential of Waylon Mercy. Spivey just had nothing left in the gas tank when he got to the WWF. A shame. Thought I read that Vince absolutely loved the gimmick. If he’d been healthy, I’m sure Mercy could have been a challenger for the Hitman‘s title.
I don't believe that Bret would have had a problem dropping the title to spivey before departing WWE had he been around. This character was brilliant. An appropriate angle could have been generated between those two. This gimmick was believable. We must never forget that wrestling is heel driven. The heel must be able to convince the audience and sell. It's the only way wrestling works
Jim’s wrong on this one, I also enjoyed Dan in the Skyscrapers
If not for the injuries, Spivey was perfect for Waylon Mercy. It seems like Cornette has something personal against Spivey, but I always liked Spivey's work. Agree to disagree.
Waylon Mercy was awesome!
I loved the Waylon Mercy character. For being based on Cape Feare, it was pretty different and new for wrestling. Bray Wyatt was the remix of Mercy at first and I had wished before they ruined him that they could have gotten Spivey to come back as Waylon Mercy in a managerial role for a little bit to be like the cult leader inspiration for Bray. I would have popped for a video package of old man Waylon as the one in the rocking chair in the abandoned shack saying "Lives are gonna be... in the Wyatt Family's hands." Maybe holding a big tattered book in his hands that had "The Book of Mercy" etched on the cover. Then once Bray reached that point where he grew too big to be coddled anymore, that's when he and his heavies turn on Waylon and beat him down as Spivey was fixing to wrap up that tenure.
But, NOPE, Vince as usual put the pedal to the metal and cartooned Bray up in record time because he thought he made a new Undertaker, not realizing that the Undertaker gimmick worked because it was the right guy at the right time in an era when kayfabe still carried water and the fans were easier to work over. Bray needed to be on a far slower burn and kept away from the "sports entertainment" supernatural shit. All he had to be was a new take on Waylon Mercy with a tinge of Charles Manson and Reverend Jim Jones.
One of the absolute BEST GIMMICK AT THE TIME in WWF... WAYLON MERCY is the precursor to BRAY WYATT .. EATER OF WORLDS
Came in about the same time as Triple H. Wonder how hilarious it would have been if Trips got the creeper character instead of the rich snob
Can't imagine HHH with a Southern accent lol
I used to like how HHH would lay the back of his hand across the small of his back and feign injury whenever he got hit a little too hard or thrown out hard from the ring back then, pretending to be a weak, spineless, British pompous fool,... He was year's ahead of the Norman Smiley gimmick, lol... I seriously would have liked to have seen that part go on longer too, lol....
Triple H couldn't have done that character! No way he could have pulled that off.
"Livesuh are gonna beuh in my handsuh."
Waylon was Bray Wyatt before the Wyatt Family started RIP man 🙏 i loved Wyatts gimmick
I've never thought about it much, but had Taker not already been so over, that would've been perfect for Mark..
love cornette he just tells how it is its true everyone is all "he buried you" crazy when its just his take relax people
How about taking your own advice and relaxing. We're allowed to have opinions as well.
Say that to his face cornette... i dare you...
The guy is from Florida how’s he not southern enough?
i think the gimmick would've worked for spivey because he was mostly a brawler and so if he just worked as a brutal stalker of his opponent (like the movie) then it could've probably been the best gimmick for him. the singular problem was at that point he was completely broken down physically. even walking to the ring you could deal he beat up from the waist down ... and i didn't particularly like spivey in any way. but i don't think his lack of talent was the problem with the waylon mercy gimmick
I remember Waylon Mercy as a kid,his character scared me as he looked like a kidnapper, someone that would just grab u throw u in his van and speed off and u are never seen alive again gave some creepy vibes but I was only 9 in 1995 soo.
WCW house show at the Norfolk Scope in 1990 with Ric Flair as champion: 6,500
WCW house show at the Norfolk Scope in 1992 with Ron Simmons as champion: 300
Under-rated gimmick
then they tried again with bray wyatt and ruined that as well.
DeathMetalRob The gimmick is great, the booking is shit. It takes both to make such an out there gimmick work.
Well actually Wyatt was a blend of Mercy and Charles Manson, but WWE did what they usually do, and fucked it up.
Drugs
Not through any fault on Wyatt's part though. Once they sacrificed him to Cena at WM, it was done.
Bull Buchanan was rumored to reboot this character back in 2003 before he became Cena's rapper lacky as B-Squared. On Raw back in 2011, Mick Foley was bringing out people from John Cena's past. Bull Buchanan claimed that Cena ruined his life.
Ist time disagree with jC waylon mercy was great
WAYLON MERCY DIDN'T FAIL. HE SUFFERED AN INJURY FROM DIESEL'S JACKKNIFE POWERBOMB...
True, that move is more devastating than it looks.
I don't disagree with Jim about too much but this is one time I'm going to. I always liked Danny he was a real life tough guy and carried that attitude into the ring. Waylon was a great gimmick. Was Spivey difficult in the ring? Evidently. Did he have the career everyone thought he would? Probably not. But he had a great run and thats pretty rare.
"Dangerous" Dan Spivey (the Skyscrapers tag-team in WCW: "(P)Sycho" Sid Vicious/Justice, "Mean" Mark Callous; manager: Theodore/Teddy (R.) Long) = in the WWF/WWE, he became Waylon Mercy (Robert DeNiro / Robert Mitchum - as the "Max Cady" (southern gentleman/psychopath) character for the "Cape Fear" movies => Bray Wyatt (the Wyatt Family stable); The Plumber (T.L. Hopper) = "Dirty White Boy" Tony Anthony...
Jim may think it is rotten but that's not what the majority of fans thought. Dan was so over with the fans because of his personality. He was very polite, respectful, cordial, courteous, friendly, outgoing towards the fans which is probably what he was outside the ring. The fact that he has the balls to shake everyone's hand as a heel was somewhere innovative nobody did that before unless you count Jessie "The Body" Ventura the heel announcer accepting and acknowledging the cheers from the crowd in front of the camera. I loved how he would pump his fists as they would chant "JESSIE! JESSIE! JESSIE!" So you might say Jessie is the first heel to embrace the fans and other people followed
Actually he was pretty good as Waylon Mercy. Underused and underrated
Until recently proven otherwise, I could have sworn that I remember Waylon Mercy from the VERY early 90s, and seeing him in WWF Magazine or stickerbooks alongside the likes of, say, Nailz and Kamala. Turns out that I'm misremembering.
No, Mercy didn't come in until about 95. Definitely was not in the WWF in the early 90's.
Mandela Effect
@@jerryalexander8803 I really hate how that went from being a very specific scenario (people who "remembered" Mandela being at an event they were at when he wasn't), to people misremembering when Mandela died, to just a phrase people throw out to explain plain old forgetfulness with some time-travel multiverse implications. Fuckin' Internet.
@@JagerLange one thing about opinions, they've been around way before the internet.. Peace ✌🏿
@@JagerLangeStop whining.
They got it right when they did Psycho Sid a few years later. This gimmick was halfway to Psycho Sid but not all the way there.
Cornette can't talk about Waylon Mercy being a de Niro Rip off when he invented Kane's gimmick which was literally Michael Myers from Halloween 😂😂
It was definitely the De Niro interpretation of that character, it was easy to copy because it was a blown-up caricature in the first place. A convincing Mitch era Cady would have been ... the best thing ever to happen in wrestling, but no-one could have done it.
Spivey was great as Mercy. I wish he could of started the character years earlier.
Waylon Mercy walked so the late Bray Wyatt could run with a similar gimmick.
I get what Jim is saying here, he didnt think the gimmick worked for Dan, in short. COULD the gimmick went elswhere, be a little more refined/better? Maybe (and years later, after a little polish and a new face, DID with Bray Wyatt), but Dan did it well for that time. More than well, in my opinion.
Spivey could really wrestle when he was "Golden Boy" Danny Spivey.
Jeffrey Riley but a baby face named “Golden Boy” is even too wack for the 80s. Eww
If you saw him in the mid 80's WWF, he looked like Hulk Hogans almost twin brother. Down to the yellow trunks and boots. Minus the build and the charisma. Kind of like Kendall to Barry Windham. Interestingly enough Spivey replaced Windham in the US Express and teamed with Rotundo until Mike left the company and then they stuck him with some jobber guy who I am blanking on the name at the moment, and they dressed like a jobber version of the US express. Mostly losing at house shows and stuff.
Outside the ring, this guy was really down-to-earth, but turned into a demon in the ring, kind of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Jim Ross and Bruce Prichard praised this gimmick heavily. Unfortunately it came many years too late for Spivey
Butch Reed JOINED THE RODEO?!
"I'm gonna show you people what a picnic is all about, you know what I mean". One of the most scarry promos ever, that character was quite creepy.
Jim loves to talk and has much knowledge but he was off on this one.. First off Dan Spivey was deceptively huge as he was symmetrical, he was not 6'5, he was the same height as Undertaker, watch the matches him and undertaker did as a tag team, he weighed between 280 and 310 lbs.. Second, Spivey just got done with a tour in Japan when he was introduced by WWE to this Mercy gimmick, Spivey was with injury at this time and decided to do it and did it until about a year when he got surgery he put off.. When Spivey is in public, especially at wrestling entities as well as fan mail, he is surprised at the number of fans who still ask about the Waylon Mercy character, as it was only a short term and really not the main defining character of his wrestling career.. So Jim.. if this character was not a draw,, why is everyone wanting to talk about it to this day???
"Rodeo" Butch Reed...I might make that a CAW on 2K
Along with Ricky Gibson
WWF in the mid 90s was so horrible for gimmicks it was absolutely brutal! I don't know what Vince was thinking! I can remember as a kid going what is this crap?!
like these new characters are any better besides Bray Wyatt 😂
One of the best gimmicks it's because of this gimmick we got Bray Wyatt
Who is Mercy the buzzard now with Bray.
@@willmarkley4237 the Buzzard puppet is supposed to be done By Bray's voice but the name Mercy is paying homage to Waylon Mercy
It was a great Cape Fear gimmick, they gave the Red Rooster a bigger push.
Diesel broke his back on a Powerbomb. They should have given the character to the younger talent.
Red Rooster didn't get any push! He got pushed out the door.
@@tomhood7343 surely out the coop lol
I love Corny but he was wrong about Spivey as Waylon Mercy. He's letting his personal feelings paint an inaccurate picture.
Waylon was awesome.
He gave the gimmick to Bray Wyatt that's why the buzzard puppets name is mercy
your life is gonna be in Waylon Mercys hands Jimmy Cornnet.
Wow, Cornette is totally out of touch. Waylon Mercy was fucking awesome.
But when I get in that raang in the dubya dubyeff LIVES ARE GONNA BE IN WAYLON MERCYS HANDS!!!!
He was never given the true credit he deserves he was never given the push that he deserved Batman should have been just as famous if not more than the Undertaker and that's being straight up I mean he had the character on point whether it was Dangerous Dan Spivey or Waylon Mercy either way nobody could do it as well as him he'll always be one of my favorites as a matter of fact I think a wrestling is pretty much dead now I mean they're trying to take Bray Wyatt away Tim and Alexa Bliss is the only reason I watch anymore The Undertaker's gone however whenever they do make special appearances I keep up but I would really love to see you Waylon mercy and Bray Wyatt in some way shape or form that would be just so f****** awesome
I think Waylon Mercy is one of the most overrated characters in wrestling. Fite me.
The idea was interesting, but the execution was underwhelming
Go fuck urself
Well I do know for a fact he had a hell of a punch on him there's a lot of stories from where a certain somebody about got their head took off by the man he don't take no s*** I really wish they would bring him back in some way shape or form cuz with Waylon Mercy everything could be peaceful ... Know what I mean
Waylon Mercy was brilliant.
I thought he had a great gimmick, maybe not world champion material, but million dollar man Ted dibiase potential, he was never world champion either, but he was a threat to the top face wrestlers
The gimmick could have been good if they would have given him better vignettes in the character would have been worked on a little bit better so and do part I do agree with what he is saying but at the same time if given time maybe it would have enhanced his character a lot better he would have gone places.
Dan Spivey was garbage in that tag team. Like just really bad stuff. So I mean he might have been better but we won't ever know.
Jim Cornette is James from sugar pine 7’s dad.
Cornette a hater..questioning why he was hurt he didn’t take any bumps? Wow..Waylon mercy was a great gimmick & it’s still talked about to this day..bray Wyatt before the fact..thank u Danny respect bro
Cornette is a Legend hahaha he cracks me up the roster was tradesmen construction workers etc tonka roster if you will
Spivey was broken down, he looked like shit, physically
His work bland and looked like shit
HE was bland and looked like shit
His promos were bland and looked like shit
Waylon mercy should be in the hall of fame just because of his underrated promo skills.
Dan was great, and they should have put the belts on the skyscrapers, they should have really used Dan better than they did.
It was guys like mercy and raven who gave inspiration for bray wyatt
Jake, Waylon, Taker. Never heard Raven as one. But that’s cool if true.
6' 5", 270 lb Skyscraper?
What.
Leon Tan i was thinking the same thing. I think Spivey was more like 6’8”. I think Jim is wrong here.
@@jrsmith1998 he is definitely 6'8"
Cornette regularly changes facts to bury people, no way was Spivey only 6'5
Dan Spivey is got to be at least 6'7 or 6'8. I met him back in the late 80,s at a wrestling event and got his autograph. I'm 6'5 and he was at least two to three inches taller than me. So Jim Cornette is definitely wrong about his height.
Bull Buchanan was rumored to reboot this character back in 2003 before he became Cena's rapper lacky as B-Squared
Wonder if Corny hates Waylon as much as he did Danny Spivey.
There is a hint of jealousy here
Dan Spivey played football for Vince Dooley and Erk Russell at Georgia in the early 1970s. Legitimate dude. Spivey is not the best wrestler but Jesus Christ, Corny is wrong here.
Waylon mercy he was going somewhere but the gimmick didnt work for him
Waylon Mercy was starting to be successful. My buddies in middle school joked about how funny it was and how he truly came off as a psychopath. So for a rare time on wrestling I disagree with Jim Cornette.
I kinda like Waylon Mercy
The only tropic that Corny is more wrong than this is his politics. Guy completely goes off the rails with woke hatred.
Isnt it basically Bray Wyatt
You're right. It was a very, very basic Bray Wyatt. With absolute shit in-ring work.
He's Bray Wyatt's inspiration for his character. Bray calls his buzzard in the firefly fun house "Mercy" as a tribute.
Waylon Mercy's promos were great, Cornette is the type of guy who'll criticise something you did that was great just because it was you that did it
I can't stand Vince Russo but sometimes I'm starting to think some of the stuff Cornette says is actually bullshit just to bury him
Lets put it in perspective:
Ask Cornette who did better promos, Waylon Mercy or Bobby Eaton?
He would probably say Bobby Eaton even though I still don't know what Eatons voice actually sounds like as I've never heard it
Cornette is hilarious and a great interview, but take what he says seriously?
Very rarely
Nah, Jim is full of shit, here. It's still spoken of today. The shit was fresh, and based on a more serious approach compared to what the WWF was doing at the time. I remember when they started pushing Steve Austin as Stone Cold, and not the SCSA that we all know of today, but the initial variation of him that hardly ever spoke, but looked serious all the time. I was just happy that they finally had a character that wasn't based off of a damn tradesman. Sean O'Haire was another amiable wasted, gimmick. For some reason, they throw anything remotely interesting straight out the damn window.
Jim you dont like him fine. But he played that role amazing
I agree, I have no idea why he's bashing the character and/or Spivey saying they should've given the gimmick to someone who could play it properly. I don't know anyone who could've done a better job with it, for as long as it lasted anyway. Maybe there's some personal animosity between them because the main reason it didn't last was because Dan was in such bad shape at this point that he had to retire
@@bink ya you must be right there probably is something personal there. Spivey came off as a serial killer in those promos i thought it was awesome
@@Therealgeoffchilds Yeah he really ran with it, he just didn't have much left at that point. You could see how immobile he was in the ring
Waylon Mercy would have been a great character, the problem was Danny Spivey played him. And Spivey is just BORING.