PrepperLink Awesome video, glad to see people are thinking ahead and educating others. I use an alternative to the threaded end pipes, just because it removes the need for tools to open. Usually I reserve this for "fast bugout" tubes because it's simpler and easier to maintain and access: I use plumbing test plugs to seal the access end. The beefy wingnuts make it easy to open with bare hands and/or gloves, and it is a mechanically-expanding giant rubber o-ring. Have a small set of pliers and you can tighten that thing like crazy. NOTHING gets through them. Plumbers use them to inspect piping buried in the ground. Test plugs also are more reliable - with PVC, repeated use will slowly enlarge the threads and loosen the fitting, allowing moisture and contaminants to get inside. Not good because, let's face it - we're not building these tubes for one-time applications only. They'll be our safest way of storing small, vital objects during SHTF situations. I also pack a small Tylenol pill tube full of industrial-grade rubber-friendly grease in each of these tubes, as well as silica gel baggies. Once every few uses, rub a bit of grease on the rubber and on the outside screw to prevent drying-out and rust formation. Any residual moisture inside will be then absorbed by the silica. That's my $0.02 - hope it helps. Stay frosty, safe, and alive.
Eleven years ago I buried some firearms and supplies inside two 8" PVC tubes. I placed the PVC tubes inside black 12" culvert tubes for earth protection and buried all approximately three feet deep. Similar as shown here in this video I too used pipe, end cap, female adapter and plug to make my PVC storage containers. I had to hunt around for scrap 12" culvert tube which I got for free at a construction yard. I also used a five gallon pail on one end of a culvert tube that was too short. Five gallon pails in fact can be used instead of culvert tubes. The reason I used a culvert tube (5 gal pails work good too) was to leave a cavity in the earth so not to stress the PVC pipe. Not too long ago I had to relocate the weapons stash I buried eleven years ago and when I opened the PVC tubes my stash was safe and sound. The hydrosorbent silica gel canisters which were placed inside the tube were still good also. To open up the PVC tubes I used a moto tool and cut the PVC plug off "not damaging the pipe adapter threads of course so that I could use the tube again. I sealed the plug on the PVC tube good when I buried it. I used extra precaution because I hate thread leaks. I applied good pipe dope on the threads and after sealing the plug I washed off all exposed pipe dope, allowed it to dry and sealed the remaining threads and thread area with waterproof Goop. I also encapsulated the PVC tubes inside 1/4 wire mesh just in case some animal with sharp teeth and claws discovered the PVC. When I unearthed the tubes I was amazed when I saw the galvanized mesh had not a spot of rust.
Nice vid, I like the idea of the 4"pvc it looks like it would be a quick burial using a post hole digger. I would suggest using 1 end, the bottom, pvc cap and the top use the rubber. That way when loading the tube or dropping the tube into the ground, you have a much harder bottom to help prevent breakage.
Thanks for the tips. People can armchair quarter back but you are doing the work and putting these ideas out there. As far as the PVC vs ABS you can simply spray paint primer or paint on the cache. This will protect the plastic. from outside interference. cheers
When I lived in California and had lawn sprinklers, I dug larger holes under each brass sprinkler head and installed those vaults......Later, I used a metal detector and could not find them as they were loaded with steel tubing to test my theory. No one would think to dig up a metal sprinkler head and find my weapons stash. The home I live in now, does not have a system so I went deeper to avoid detection while living here.
Ground penetrating radar. It will be found. The army uses the vmr2 which I have found IEDs and Chinese rockets buried. So dont count one the police not having that technology. Bury them DEEP or bury them on top of your septic tank they might just dismiss it as a false hit or just say meh it's a septic tank.
@@chasingthefish9042 There’s no point, they will find it. As you said the technology they have now is incredible. I don’t think there is Anything that will stop things being detected.
Great ideas. I would also suggest that people use a vacuum sealer whatever they put in there before putting it in there just in case some water gets in
Nice, just an idea, for the one that you said you might not have the tools you need, why not just bury a solid plastic tool that fits in that slot right next to the cache? I assume there is a purpose built tool that fits into that groove, but you could probably throw an air-hockey puck next to your cache and be good to go. Just a thought. Thanks for making the video.
Because the threaded end runs the risk of not creating a true watertight and airtight seal if you don't prepare it properly, it is actually a better idea to use a longer piece of pipe than you need, then pack the extra space with old cloth and then use a conventional cap on the end. Mark this end so you know it is safe to saw through when you recover it and you won't have anythng to worry about.
Don't use PVC. You need ABS pipes, PVC is an unstable product. It will keep breaking down over several years. Contaminating anything that it holds inside. And become brittle as chocolate. Also mind the frost depth in your area. If the ground freezes, your pipe will crack. So bury below the frost-depth (typically around 1 meter should be enough). Hot/desert region? Air will expand inside and can crack the pipe as well. Also mind groundwater. Soil containing groundwater will float (a light) pipe to the surface. It will go slow, but it will reach the surface eventually.
Yep, expanding air can easily crack a pvc pipe. It's no bullshit. If the pipe was closed at cold temperature and the pipe heats up, the air pressure can reach very high levels. Learn a bit about pneumatics and general physics.
+Martin The coldest temp the glue can work is 32 degrees. If you left the pipe on the desert floor (not buried 3' down where the temps are probably 60 degrees) say 120 degrees. Initial pressure in pipe is 1 psi just to make things easy. Final pressure in pipe is 120 degrees/ 32 degrees * 1 psi= 3.75 psi . Max pressure for schedule 40 pvc 6" dia is 180 psi
I’m making a cache from 6in pvc which is “schedule 40” type. It will be about 3 1/2 feet long and store one of my 10/22 Rugers with ammo. Do I have to worry about condensation at all with the schedule 40 type I have? Obviously I will be using some sort of protective (vacuum seal plastic, contractor bag, long Mylar bag, etc) sleeve to put the rifle and ammo in while inside the cache, but I’m just curious about the condensation factor. Can I rest easy about the condensation? Also, the plumbing supplier I bought my pipe and other material (pipe primer & cement, end caps) from did not have the coupling for a 6 in pipe, so I will be using an end cap (no screw cap) on both ends to complete the cache. Obviously I know I will have to use a hack saw or repeating saw in order to open it when I do need it. Do you think I’ll be ok with the schedule 40 and two end caps? That’s my big question.
What would you use to prevent condensation of moisture inside the tubes (even if its ABS)?? Do you use a dessicant added to the tube? Moisture being the enemy and if a good rainfall or colder temps occur, then condensation inside pvc or ABS will occur if it is buried. Interested in the replies.
You could just use the pvc pipe for a fishing pole and use the inside for storing bank line, hooks, sinkers, and bobbers. I think Dave Cantebury had a vid posted on how to do it. The one end cap with the large flat head would work the best for me. I always carry a hatchet when outdoors and it would be easier to open. Thanks for the info and best of luck to you.
@David DeVito it does..watch the salt shakers at restaurants sometimes they mix rice with the salt because it attracts the moisture and prevents the salt from clumping..
Im just wondering why you prefer to store your fishing rod that way? Any benefits to it? I always thought a telescoping rod was geared more towards saving space and that tube looked pretty bulky.
Fernco caps all have standard 5/16" nuts with a slot in them for tightening, a nut driver works the best to tighten. If you use a pvc cleanout the plug should be Teflon taped and also doped. The pvc cap and cleanout are definitely stronger than a fernco cap but both should work well for prepping purposes, and yes I am a plumber.....
Leaving your rights up to a vote is like a sheep letting a pack of wolves dictate what's for dinner. Trump ran on a pro-gun platform and now he's saying take the guns first, worry about due process later. You know damned well you can't trust a politician's mouth so how do you expect to always vote for the right person?
You either made a spelling error or it's lacking some punctuation, not calling you out but honestly I don't even know what you're saying to say. I'm from Europe so listen what I have to say: you guys are lucky because you got so much woods and so much desert that it doesn't matter what laws they pass, you'll always have guns and places to shoot if you don't comply. We've lost gun rights over here and it was never a matter of voting for the right people because even conservatives buckle under the pressure. Nowadays the EU can demand new gun laws to be passed, people from other countries you didn't vote for, and very few countries are willing to fight it.
I'm sure PVC would work fine for this application, but what about CPVC? It withstands higher temperatures and has a higher tensile strength. Downside is that it is considerably more expensive.
I would think CPVC is brittle and PVC is much more durable would work fine since it's not gonna get any hotter then it would under a house. But that's a good thought.
Those clamps won't rust, they are made from ss(stainless steel), the screw and screw housing,will rust. You Can buy ALL ss clamps which includes screw an housing, little more expensive though.
You could zip tie a piece of flat steel that fits in the slot on the end to the side of the tube. Thus when you dig it up the tool to open it is right on the outside of the tube. Plus you dont have to bury expensive tools with each tube. Just a budget thought.
Make sure to glue the One Lid and not the other as it will shut it tight I would recommend leaving space to cut to get Items out or getting something else.
OK, so you bury thousands of rounds of ammo in baggies or a firearm... what about moisture? What about condensation developing inside the tube and baggies as the temps vary in your location? Nice idea, but don't think you are going to leave your Cache in these tubes up to a year and not find "crud" all over you ammo or firearm. So, any ideas?
Taking cues from my job -- I work in the shipping department of a lab equipment manufacturer, and a lot of it is EXTREMELY sensitive to moisture and oxygen contamination. It's a lot simpler than you would think - seal the ammo/gun/random supplies in mylar bags, seal them with a crimping iron, and vacuum out the air; do this twice, to insure a proper barrier seal. Throw in a few large bags of desiccant, seal the container with heavy duty silicone, and you're good to go.
Don Fava I would think it would depend on how deeply you bury the tube. In our area the freeze line is 18", so I'd go deeper than that. Also, think I'd vacuum seal my ammo, etc. and add desiccants. Just an idea.
Why did you make a heavy pve pipe to carry a rod in? Its heavy and bulky and collapsed the rod would be strong enough to pack inside or in a cloth bag outside. JMHO
The clamps on the rubber caps are weak . Go to a truck stop and paybextra money for a hd clamp which can be torqued diwn with a wrench or socket Applies more equal Pressure
the only problem i see with geo caching is murphys law.... what can go wrong will go wrong. that being said stashing caches on the route to your bugout location may or may not work well since external factors will decide the route you take to get there and when you get there maybe someone is already there maybe not
What good is that fishing rod without a reel? I don't see how a reel would fit in that tube. Might as well scrap the rod, use the altoid method and tie the fishing line onto a stick. And stay away from the flexible end caps. You bury those things and good luck trying to unscrew the rusty, dirt encrusted hose clamps. Get the screw end caps that have a protruding block that can be unscrewed with pliers.
j Money Outlaw guns, that takes away hunting. Outlaw fishing, farming and any other means in which a person could be independent and you've created a mass of people no longer able to do anything but comply if they wish to survive. Guns are just tools. Ban one tool and the rest can be taken away as well.
Depending on what you are hiding, you may not want to use the metal bands as they would be picked up by metal detectors. But if you were hiding metal objects anyway, it would be no big deal.
Not that pricey really. A 10' x 4" length of pvc is only $20ish. The end caps and adapter/plugs will run about $10 per unit. YMMV of course, depending on your local prices. You could make five 2 footers for $70. I'd use the threaded plug with the square end and carry a pair of channel locks to open em quick, fast and in a hurry.
a pole in a survival bag or a bug out bag I think is just a waste of space. limb lines or bank line are a lot better than on pole. set out many of them and you don't have to watch them. they work with out being their the same goes for fish and animal traps.
I strap my pole to the outside of my bag. Or, if I have the space, I can put it inside. I carry bank line with me as well, however I am much more effective with a rod and reel.
PrepperLink yeah because strapping a long white tube (target) with an item that isn't needed to the side of a pack is a great idea. And better throw in some new mag springs since loaded mags in long term storage is a big no-no. And I couldn't stop laughing when you pulled out the flexible end caps....complete junk and not meant to be buried. No talk about rust/corrosion inhibitors or moisture absorbers. Your gonna have a big surprise when you dig your shit up
svbummin Lol... I read this nonsens all the time. And what exactly are these "rust/corrosion inhibitors or moisture absorbers" supposed to do? If the container is air-/water-tight (as it should be), you simply don't need them. And if the container is not, they won't help you at all. Trust me. I have buried quite some tubes the last 2 decades. PS : the flexible end caps are way better than the hard ones. The hard ones will crack, the flexible ones won't. (hence the word : flexible). PS2 : Inform yourself about magazine spring wear. It is a wellknown hoax that "keeping a mag loaded over time will wear out the spring". Only cycling (compressing and decompressing) is what wears out a spring.
So I guess ignore all the manufacturers and experts that clearly state that in recent hi-capacity magazines, the magazines were designed to hold more rounds with less spring material. And they admit that this puts more stress on the spring and will cause compression fatigue at a faster rate.or the countless people who have proven that mag springs compressed long term, will loss compression strength. Or the simple fact that im a skilled welder, metal fabricator and amateur blacksmith that has studied metallurgy for many years...so trust me when I say that the basic spring steel used in mag springs DOES form a memory over time. you can believe whatever you read online, but ive seen it first hand. It wont stop the mag from working necessarily but it greatly increases the chance for malfunctions and feeding issues, which again has been proven that even a small decrease in spring compression affects performance in some platforms. and you clearly dont realize that rust and corrosion of metal is established from the actual moisture in the metal...not from moisture in the air (although after surface rust has been established the tiny bit of air left in a cache tube will be more than enough to allow damage if left long enough) because all metals ferrous or non-ferrous absorbs moisture. So unless you heat up your guns and ammo hot enough to sweat out the moisture and then let them cool and seal the tube while in a damn vacuum... you WILL get rust and corrosion. or simply use a rust inhibitor (which is standard industry procedure when working with a machined or high tolerance surface that has to be left raw) And with some grades of steel it happens in less than a day. So you can wipe down a gun after being exhumed or you can go ape-shit on it with steel-wool or a scotch-brit pad and pray that things aren't pitted enough to throw of tolerances like head-spacing. and I dont know what kind of cheap-ass thin pvc your using, but i have just over 40 pvc caches (some over a decade old) placed in many different terrains, including above and below frost-line. a dozen or so have been dug up over the years, and none are compromise in any way. but then again im not using a fucking hose clamp to hold on a rubber cap...thats just dumb
Would love to know how much the big pipe holds. Using slugs of death as a volume measurement tool is a terrible idea... unless you're American I suppose.
If you're unequipped or too lazy to make your own here is a great option: www.etsy.com/listing/733204189/prepper-burial-tubes-time-capsule?ref=shop_home_active_2&frs=1
Like your idea about the fishing pole. And ,45ACP, makes you a man after my own heart
PrepperLink Awesome video, glad to see people are thinking ahead and educating others.
I use an alternative to the threaded end pipes, just because it removes the need for tools to open. Usually I reserve this for "fast bugout" tubes because it's simpler and easier to maintain and access: I use plumbing test plugs to seal the access end.
The beefy wingnuts make it easy to open with bare hands and/or gloves, and it is a mechanically-expanding giant rubber o-ring. Have a small set of pliers and you can tighten that thing like crazy. NOTHING gets through them. Plumbers use them to inspect piping buried in the ground. Test plugs also are more reliable - with PVC, repeated use will slowly enlarge the threads and loosen the fitting, allowing moisture and contaminants to get inside. Not good because, let's face it - we're not building these tubes for one-time applications only. They'll be our safest way of storing small, vital objects during SHTF situations.
I also pack a small Tylenol pill tube full of industrial-grade rubber-friendly grease in each of these tubes, as well as silica gel baggies. Once every few uses, rub a bit of grease on the rubber and on the outside screw to prevent drying-out and rust formation. Any residual moisture inside will be then absorbed by the silica.
That's my $0.02 - hope it helps. Stay frosty, safe, and alive.
One may consider when burying treasure to NOT take your phone or car with computer tracking with you.
Smart...
Exactly
Eleven years ago I buried some firearms and supplies inside two 8" PVC tubes. I placed the PVC tubes inside black 12" culvert tubes for earth protection and buried all approximately three feet deep. Similar as shown here in this video I too used pipe, end cap, female adapter and plug to make my PVC storage containers. I had to hunt around for scrap 12" culvert tube which I got for free at a construction yard. I also used a five gallon pail on one end of a culvert tube that was too short. Five gallon pails in fact can be used instead of culvert tubes. The reason I used a culvert tube (5 gal pails work good too) was to leave a cavity in the earth so not to stress the PVC pipe. Not too long ago I had to relocate the weapons stash I buried eleven years ago and when I opened the PVC tubes my stash was safe and sound. The hydrosorbent silica gel canisters which were placed inside the tube were still good also. To open up the PVC tubes I used a moto tool and cut the PVC plug off "not damaging the pipe adapter threads of course so that I could use the tube again. I sealed the plug on the PVC tube good when I buried it. I used extra precaution because I hate thread leaks. I applied good pipe dope on the threads and after sealing the plug I washed off all exposed pipe dope, allowed it to dry and sealed the remaining threads and thread area with waterproof Goop. I also encapsulated the PVC tubes inside 1/4 wire mesh just in case some animal with sharp teeth and claws discovered the PVC. When I unearthed the tubes I was amazed when I saw the galvanized mesh had not a spot of rust.
Nice vid, I like the idea of the 4"pvc it looks like it would be a quick burial using a post hole digger. I would suggest using 1 end, the bottom, pvc cap and the top use the rubber. That way when loading the tube or dropping the tube into the ground, you have a much harder bottom to help prevent breakage.
Thanks for the tips. People can armchair quarter back but you are doing the work and putting these ideas out there. As far as the PVC vs ABS you can simply spray paint primer or paint on the cache. This will protect the plastic. from outside interference. cheers
When I lived in California and had lawn sprinklers, I dug larger holes under each brass sprinkler head and installed those vaults......Later, I used a metal detector and could not find them as they were loaded with steel tubing to test my theory. No one would think to dig up a metal sprinkler head and find my weapons stash. The home I live in now, does not have a system so I went deeper to avoid detection while living here.
Ground penetrating radar. It will be found. The army uses the vmr2 which I have found IEDs and Chinese rockets buried. So dont count one the police not having that technology.
Bury them DEEP or bury them on top of your septic tank they might just dismiss it as a false hit or just say meh it's a septic tank.
@@chasingthefish9042 There’s no point, they will find it.
As you said the technology they have now is incredible.
I don’t think there is Anything that will stop things being detected.
Great ideas. I would also suggest that people use a vacuum sealer whatever they put in there before putting it in there just in case some water gets in
That is what i was going to say, also gun bags that have thin layer of oil in them then put in tube.
Nice, just an idea, for the one that you said you might not have the tools you need, why not just bury a solid plastic tool that fits in that slot right next to the cache? I assume there is a purpose built tool that fits into that groove, but you could probably throw an air-hockey puck next to your cache and be good to go. Just a thought. Thanks for making the video.
Some threaded end caps have a nut molded into the end. A crescent wrench will easily open it.
Because the threaded end runs the risk of not creating a true watertight and airtight seal if you don't prepare it properly, it is actually a better idea to use a longer piece of pipe than you need, then pack the extra space with old cloth and then use a conventional cap on the end. Mark this end so you know it is safe to saw through when you recover it and you won't have anythng to worry about.
Don't use PVC. You need ABS pipes,
PVC is an unstable product. It will keep breaking down over several years.
Contaminating anything that it holds inside. And become brittle as chocolate.
Also mind the frost depth in your area. If the ground freezes, your pipe will crack.
So bury below the frost-depth (typically around 1 meter should be enough).
Hot/desert region? Air will expand inside and can crack the pipe as well.
Also mind groundwater. Soil containing groundwater will float (a light) pipe to the surface.
It will go slow, but it will reach the surface eventually.
+Martin Yes, PVC needs protection or itself won't be able to protect.
+Martin Where do you get this BS? Air will crack PVC pipe? If you don't know what you are talking about just shut up.
Yep, expanding air can easily crack a pvc pipe. It's no bullshit. If the pipe was closed at cold temperature and the pipe heats up, the air pressure can reach very high levels. Learn a bit about pneumatics and general physics.
+Martin I have an engineering degree.
+Martin The coldest temp the glue can work is 32 degrees. If you left the pipe on the desert floor (not buried 3' down where the temps are probably 60 degrees) say 120 degrees. Initial pressure in pipe is 1 psi just to make things easy. Final pressure in pipe is 120 degrees/ 32 degrees * 1 psi= 3.75 psi . Max pressure for schedule 40 pvc 6" dia is 180 psi
A strap oil filter wrench will make getting those white tubes open. Buy two of them; one to hold pipe still and the other to unscrew.
I’m making a cache from 6in pvc which is “schedule 40” type. It will be about 3 1/2 feet long and store one of my 10/22 Rugers with ammo. Do I have to worry about condensation at all with the schedule 40 type I have? Obviously I will be using some sort of protective (vacuum seal plastic, contractor bag, long Mylar bag, etc) sleeve to put the rifle and ammo in while inside the cache, but I’m just curious about the condensation factor. Can I rest easy about the condensation? Also, the plumbing supplier I bought my pipe and other material (pipe primer & cement, end caps) from did not have the coupling for a 6 in pipe, so I will be using an end cap (no screw cap) on both ends to complete the cache. Obviously I know I will have to use a hack saw or repeating saw in order to open it when I do need it. Do you think I’ll be ok with the schedule 40 and two end caps? That’s my big question.
What would you use to prevent condensation of moisture inside the tubes (even if its ABS)?? Do you use a dessicant added to the tube? Moisture being the enemy and if a good rainfall or colder temps occur, then condensation inside pvc or ABS will occur if it is buried. Interested in the replies.
You could just use the pvc pipe for a fishing pole and use the inside for storing bank line, hooks, sinkers, and bobbers. I think Dave Cantebury had a vid posted on how to do it. The one end cap with the large flat head would work the best for me. I always carry a hatchet when outdoors and it would be easier to open. Thanks for the info and best of luck to you.
Good video as it's informative comparing various choices in caps and even diameter sizes of the pipes.
TAKE A COFFEE FILTER PUT 2 TABLE SPOONS OF RICE TWIST IT TIGHT .WILL TAKE OUT MOISTER
I totally didn't think of rice, that's a hell of an idea. Thank you.
+Matthew Stewart thanks
@David DeVito it does..watch the salt shakers at restaurants sometimes they mix rice with the salt because it attracts the moisture and prevents the salt from clumping..
always remember never put all your eggs in one basket .use many caches .
How've you found the humidity/rusting with those? I'd imagine a pistol or ammo would not fare so well buried.
Rice
If you were to vacuum pack the items to be stored (seal-a-meal) and place them in the tube that might help prevent moisture damage over time
Im just wondering why you prefer to store your fishing rod that way? Any benefits to it? I always thought a telescoping rod was geared more towards saving space and that tube looked pretty bulky.
Fernco caps all have standard 5/16" nuts with a slot in them for tightening, a nut driver works the best to tighten. If you use a pvc cleanout the plug should be Teflon taped and also doped. The pvc cap and cleanout are definitely stronger than a fernco cap but both should work well for prepping purposes, and yes I am a plumber.....
wax and plastic dip works grate on these i dug up one of my caches that had wax on both ends and every thing in it was bone dry .
Vote and don't let anyone infringe on your rights stand together and you don't have to bury guns .
Leaving your rights up to a vote is like a sheep letting a pack of wolves dictate what's for dinner. Trump ran on a pro-gun platform and now he's saying take the guns first, worry about due process later.
You know damned well you can't trust a politician's mouth so how do you expect to always vote for the right person?
Titanium Rain this means you brains....
You either made a spelling error or it's lacking some punctuation, not calling you out but honestly I don't even know what you're saying to say.
I'm from Europe so listen what I have to say: you guys are lucky because you got so much woods and so much desert that it doesn't matter what laws they pass, you'll always have guns and places to shoot if you don't comply. We've lost gun rights over here and it was never a matter of voting for the right people because even conservatives buckle under the pressure. Nowadays the EU can demand new gun laws to be passed, people from other countries you didn't vote for, and very few countries are willing to fight it.
Titanium Rain over and out brains........finished not worth the time.
Stephen Fogle yeah you can't admit you're wrong. Probably still defending Trump and the NRA while they sell your rights away.
I'm sure PVC would work fine for this application, but what about CPVC? It withstands higher temperatures and has a higher tensile strength. Downside is that it is considerably more expensive.
I would think CPVC is brittle and PVC is much more durable would work fine since it's not gonna get any hotter then it would under a house. But that's a good thought.
Those clamps won't rust, they are made from ss(stainless steel), the screw and screw housing,will rust. You Can buy ALL ss clamps which includes screw an housing, little more expensive though.
You could zip tie a piece of flat steel that fits in the slot on the end to the side of the tube. Thus when you dig it up the tool to open it is right on the outside of the tube. Plus you dont have to bury expensive tools with each tube. Just a budget thought.
vacuum sealed hacksaw buried with it on the outside, hard caps are better
I think a good idea would be to douse them in cosmoline and throw in a few cans of break cleaner and oil ect. Would be a cool project!
The Survivalist's GeoCache video by AnalyticalSurvival provides a good description
Make sure to glue the One Lid and not the other as it will shut it tight I would recommend leaving space to cut to get Items out or getting something else.
Thought that was a trick pulling that long fishing pole out of the small skinny pipe 🤣 fooled me
I would have a trot line, and a gill net if i was doing it for survival. Sure wouldn't be a fishing pole in my survival bag; but thanks for sharing
What if it the temperature drops won’t it produce Condensation inside ?
OK, so you bury thousands of rounds of ammo in baggies or a firearm... what about moisture? What about condensation developing inside the tube and baggies as the temps vary in your location? Nice idea, but don't think you are going to leave your Cache in these tubes up to a year and not find "crud" all over you ammo or firearm. So, any ideas?
Taking cues from my job -- I work in the shipping department of a lab equipment manufacturer, and a lot of it is EXTREMELY sensitive to moisture and oxygen contamination.
It's a lot simpler than you would think - seal the ammo/gun/random supplies in mylar bags, seal them with a crimping iron, and vacuum out the air; do this twice, to insure a proper barrier seal. Throw in a few large bags of desiccant, seal the container with heavy duty silicone, and you're good to go.
Don Fava I would think it would depend on how deeply you bury the tube. In our area the freeze line is 18", so I'd go deeper than that. Also, think I'd vacuum seal my ammo, etc. and add desiccants. Just an idea.
Where did you buy your 1' length pvc pipe? Do you have their website link?
where i live, those 4" end caps have a square drive lug.
Why did you make a heavy pve pipe to carry a rod in? Its heavy and bulky and collapsed the rod would be strong enough to pack inside or in a cloth bag outside. JMHO
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The clamps on the rubber caps are weak . Go to a truck stop and paybextra money for a hd clamp which can be torqued diwn with a wrench or socket Applies more equal
Pressure
military has xray machine and metal decter that goes 12 x12x12 they can x ray plastic
A nut driver works better for tightening the stainless steel clamps. Most clamps are made to accommodate both screwdriver and nut driver.
The 2022 Supply Chain drama brought me here.
Ok, ok, ok, but does it work. When I pull the ammo out of the ground I wasnt it to shoot, not a bunch of corroded crap.
the only problem i see with geo caching is murphys law.... what can go wrong will go wrong. that being said stashing caches on the route to your bugout location may or may not work well since external factors will decide the route you take to get there and when you get there maybe someone is already there maybe not
+Taraz Pariseau A psychological crutch maybe. A temporary fix while you wait on the debacle to arrive!?
What good is that fishing rod without a reel? I don't see how a reel would fit in that tube. Might as well scrap the rod, use the altoid method and tie the fishing line onto a stick.
And stay away from the flexible end caps. You bury those things and good luck trying to unscrew the rusty, dirt encrusted hose clamps. Get the screw end caps that have a protruding block that can be unscrewed with pliers.
Don't forget beer!
7:07 "17 dollars ain't cheep"
Nigga we're talking about guns here, probably the second most expensive hobby other than cars.
glue a piece of square stock in the grove of the end cap and it opens easy i know ive tried it
Why would any hide a fishing pole?
j Money Outlaw guns, that takes away hunting. Outlaw fishing, farming and any other means in which a person could be independent and you've created a mass of people no longer able to do anything but comply if they wish to survive. Guns are just tools. Ban one tool and the rest can be taken away as well.
It’s not for hiding, just convenient carry: inside the bag or out.
one may also add a zerust pack to metalic treasure
That rod won't do you much good without a reel
Had issues of the metal bands breaking while it was buried. Water got inside of it. I wouldn't recommend them for a long term cache.
Depending on what you are hiding, you may not want to use the metal bands as they would be picked up by metal detectors. But if you were hiding metal objects anyway, it would be no big deal.
You can also put that in a bag before burying it.
pvc is good if burried but abs will last longer then a life time.
What's geo-caching?
keep sock with baking soda inside ziplock leave open it will help with moisture from your ammo
first ones better, those clamps on the second one will rust i garentee it im a poolman thats seen how easy thry rust
I agree three things that will destroy your firearm moisture, rust & politicians
you seem to greatly underestimate pole fishing
Not that pricey really. A 10' x 4" length of pvc is only $20ish. The end caps and adapter/plugs will run about $10 per unit. YMMV of course, depending on your local prices. You could make five 2 footers for $70. I'd use the threaded plug with the square end and carry a pair of channel locks to open em quick, fast and in a hurry.
a pole in a survival bag or a bug out bag I think is just a waste of space. limb lines or bank line are a lot better than on pole. set out many of them and you don't have to watch them. they work with out being their the same goes for fish and animal traps.
I strap my pole to the outside of my bag. Or, if I have the space, I can put it inside. I carry bank line with me as well, however I am much more effective with a rod and reel.
PrepperLink yeah because strapping a long white tube (target) with an item that isn't needed to the side of a pack is a great idea. And better throw in some new mag springs since loaded mags in long term storage is a big no-no. And I couldn't stop laughing when you pulled out the flexible end caps....complete junk and not meant to be buried. No talk about rust/corrosion inhibitors or moisture absorbers. Your gonna have a big surprise when you dig your shit up
Ounces = pounds
pounds = pain
I agree, I'd either cache a fishing rod or simply do my best at making one.
svbummin Lol... I read this nonsens all the time.
And what exactly are these "rust/corrosion inhibitors or moisture absorbers" supposed to do?
If the container is air-/water-tight (as it should be), you simply don't need them.
And if the container is not, they won't help you at all.
Trust me. I have buried quite some tubes the last 2 decades.
PS : the flexible end caps are way better than the hard ones. The hard ones will crack, the flexible ones won't.
(hence the word : flexible).
PS2 : Inform yourself about magazine spring wear. It is a wellknown hoax that "keeping a mag loaded over time will wear out the spring". Only cycling (compressing and decompressing) is what wears out a spring.
So I guess ignore all the manufacturers and experts that clearly state that in recent hi-capacity magazines, the magazines were designed to hold more rounds with less spring material. And they admit that this puts more stress on the spring and will cause compression fatigue at a faster rate.or the countless people who have proven that mag springs compressed long term, will loss compression strength. Or the simple fact that im a skilled welder, metal fabricator and amateur blacksmith that has studied metallurgy for many years...so trust me when I say that the basic spring steel used in mag springs DOES form a memory over time. you can believe whatever you read online, but ive seen it first hand. It wont stop the mag from working necessarily but it greatly increases the chance for malfunctions and feeding issues, which again has been proven that even a small decrease in spring compression affects performance in some platforms.
and you clearly dont realize that rust and corrosion of metal is established from the actual moisture in the metal...not from moisture in the air (although after surface rust has been established the tiny bit of air left in a cache tube will be more than enough to allow damage if left long enough) because all metals ferrous or non-ferrous absorbs moisture. So unless you heat up your guns and ammo hot enough to sweat out the moisture and then let them cool and seal the tube while in a damn vacuum... you WILL get rust and corrosion. or simply use a rust inhibitor (which is standard industry procedure when working with a machined or high tolerance surface that has to be left raw) And with some grades of steel it happens in less than a day. So you can wipe down a gun after being exhumed or you can go ape-shit on it with steel-wool or a scotch-brit pad and pray that things aren't pitted enough to throw of tolerances like head-spacing. and I dont know what kind of cheap-ass thin pvc your using, but i have just over 40 pvc caches (some over a decade old) placed in many different terrains, including above and below frost-line. a dozen or so have been dug up over the years, and none are compromise in any way. but then again im not using a fucking hose clamp to hold on a rubber cap...thats just dumb
it would appear to me you have not experience military survival jungle school.
Would love to know how much the big pipe holds. Using slugs of death as a volume measurement tool is a terrible idea... unless you're American I suppose.
The bands will rust.
If you're unequipped or too lazy to make your own here is a great option:
www.etsy.com/listing/733204189/prepper-burial-tubes-time-capsule?ref=shop_home_active_2&frs=1
Just put cosmoline on the rifle and bury it in PVC pipes , that would do ..
Don't like those videos because they aren't "realistic"? Hahaha! you don't have to have a fishing pole to go fishing
i don't think that a simple threaded cap will be waterproof