Mac Studio 2024 Leaks - NEW M4 Ultra chip to KILL AMD & Intel?!
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2024
- Apple's Mac Studio is looking to get updated this June 10th at their WWDC event, including the potential for either a new M3 Ultra chip or M4 Ultra chip. Let me explain..
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this was a great video, everything actually makes sense, exciting!
The M4 could be the GameChanger we all have been waiting for! The M4 has enough power to get us to where we need to go. I upgrade my MacBook every 3 months so I am always working on the freshest processor, and yes computer processors slow down with age..... The M4 has the Chutzpah to walk proudly amongst the fastest processors the world has ever and will ever see. Until the amazing and formidable M5 is released and introduces us all to true power. M5 is close is a panacea as we have ever seen, but the M5 has nothing on the stunning and dynamic M6!
Ive been wrong but for the love of all thats holly, where is the V9 architecture apple? The Snapdragon X3 is going to eat the M3s dinner
@@mrsrhardy exactly 💯?
I'd like to point out that chip design takes years, so if all this is true, they anticipated all those problems when they started, and knew they'd have to solve them at some point, which is pretty admirable.
Apple always was good in long term decissions, they even switched to PCIe NVME storage on iPhone in 2015, just because of the M1 (the M.2 SSD is also an NVME drive what communicate on PCIe port, so in short it's also PCIe NVME), so they already had plans for that M1 9 years ago, and they perfected the compatibility and speed in iPhone for 5 years, and because the M1 is basically "just" a doubled A14 with some extra encoders end decoders etc, it just works because it's already compatible.
5 years takes to design chip.
It makes sense to release the most powerful product 1st and all the other later - just like Nvidia always releases high-end 4090 GPU 1st to take the performance crown. It's mostly for marketing purpose and Apple has excellent marketing team.
Also should be expected the M-series to release every year new gen as every top Apple product (iPhone). Not like today the strange 1.5 year period for products with second priority (iPad).
I expect M4 Ultra to use chip interconnect similar to M2 Ultra, but rather close to Nvidia Grace Hopper chip - with separate dies for CPU and for GPU. This will remove the problems with GPU scaling bottleneck and will allow to increase GPU size to something like Nvidia 4090. And there is possibility to add interconnect interface for two edges out of four - this would allow 4-chip configuration like Intel Sapphire Rapids chip (not just 2-chip like M2 Ultra which is obvious limitation of 1-edge interface. Unless Apple uses multi-chiplet configuration similar to AMD server Epyc with 12 CPU chiplets connected to one central IO hub.
The end users are ultimate R&D department.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st
Apple missed the AI revolution. They are scrambling to catch up.
Makes sense. A M4 Ultra in the Studio would be a major marketing win. Now, if they would make an iPad Pro Ultra with MacOS/iPad Ultra OS they would quadruple that marketing win.
Don't forget the IOS AI!
The only problem, iPad Ultra running macOS would cannibalise MacBook Air.
Yes, but in with the new and out with the old.@@vjtech17
also M4 Extreme which is 2 M4 Ultras combined together exclusive to the mac pro lmao
Only if it isn’t obscenely priced.
Will this be good enough to play solitaire (on max settings) and check my email at the same time?
Or should I wait for M5?
You should stay on Windows XP to get the solitaire real experience.
Probably wait for M6 for that one
Well, the M3 now has dual external monitor support in clamshell mode, so you should be OK. For truly doing those two things simultaneously, the limitation may be in the operator.
Guess you need to wait for your next Intel chip to be able to run both without heating up and frying your b6lls!
Depends, if you need your card deck to be ray traced, then I would wait for M5 Ultra, but with at least 128Gb ram. Otherwise, just go with M4 Ultra and 64Gb.
As transistor size decreases, their state (ON or OFF) is more susceptible to EM effects such as those that can be generated by the Fusion interconnect. Module interconnects act like antennas. I speculate that this may be a factor in ditching the Fusion architecture after M1 and M2 generations if in fact that is going to happen.
Sounds interesting for making something for workstation class computing like the Mac Studio and Mac Pro are aimed at eliminate the E cores increase the P cores and not have to deal with bridgings two CPUs together. When going for performance the E cores with their slower timing just create timing issues, Apple's Logic doesn't use the E cores only the P cores my guess is the timing issues that could result for very timing dependent software. So this will be interesting to see what they do.
So does the n3b on M3 Air & Pro mean that future parts & repairs will be complicated bec of limited inventory? If the line was rushed, do they have any defects?
Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
Ultra and extreme are reserved for the desktop so they don't need to carry components that benefits a portable design.
And it also make sure that they should release the most powerful chip first before moving down to max > pro > base.
Cannabized sales is one thing, another thing is then it won't have a situation where for example m4 base😅 coming out soon after chips like m3 pro and people don't know which to buy.
What about an extreme fusion chip for the Mac Pro?
You have an interesting idea, and the whole thing with N3B and N3E makes it plausible. The one argument on the other side of introducing the big die version on a new process generation first is that manufacturing defect densities tend to be highest at the beginning of a new process. When defect densities are high there is a disproportionate loss of yields on big die vs small, which is why it’s typically more cost effective to ramp small-die products early in a new process and wait on ramping big dies until later when defect densities are lower. So all else equal, I would expect the regular Mx to be available sooner than the Mx Max or Ultra on the same process. This could be different with the M4 because of the circumstances you cite.
So if im looking to get a mac studio for professional video editing around the $2,000 range I should wait until June?
Your choice. I just got the M2 Max model for video work, and it’s great.
What about a fusion strip across the ultra to make the extreme for the Mac Pro?
After 15 years I’m ready to upgrade my setup
Let’s see what happens at WWDC
“But that’s just a theory, a CHIP theory! Thanks for watching.”
If my budgeting won’t allow me to get an M3 Max MacBook Pro until the fall, should I hold off through the fall til an M4 Max MacBook Pro comes around?
Is this because of Snap Dragon pressure?
Wonder if this security issue with cache will be addresses in future chips?
Maybe the Ultra chips going forward will be the next generation of chips before the lower levels are released
have they fixed the cache-related flaw though ?
Apple will skip the M3 Ultra chip and go straight to the M4 Ultra chip, followed by the M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max chips later next year. Well explained. You are a genius!
If Apple is serious about bringing more than 1 or 2 AAA games to the Mac they need to release a Mac for around $1500 that has more GPU cores than the base M series of chips. 20+ GPU cores to compete with the Nvidia 4070 GPUs unlike the base M3s that are more in the 2050/60 class.
Also upgradable storage and make the 16in under $2000
@@crestofhonor2349 Storage will never be upgradable on portable and consumer Macs. It's possible on the Mac Studio and Mac Pro but never in any other Mac.
Are you seriously comparing a dedicated GPU chip to integrated graphics? Apples to Apples (no pun intended) would be the M3 to an AMD CPU with integrated graphics as they are the current leaders in that field. Their 8700G is the current high end chip for gaming without a dedicated GPU.
@@johnt.848 I believe the AMD Radeon 780M (Best AMD integrated graphics) is better than the RX 460 by 73% and is worse than the RX 470 by 18%.
@lenn55 I agree with johnt.848, you cannot compare a dedicated GPU card to integrated graphics. If Apple wanted to have AAA games on the Mac, they would make their chips support OpenGL and Vulkan. This would allow a lot more game engines to be able to port to Mac easier. The problem with this idea is that it is too cheap for Apple and macbooks are for portability and productivity.
will the M4 Pro Mac Mini be the best value Mac again? Or just the M4 Mac Mini? Will gaming finally be viable on Macs?
What about Thunderbolt 5? Will we see TB5 on the new Mac Studios?
right now i am curies how will they patch the exploit in the m chips
Ipads are too late now
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iPad is dead anyway
iPads? lol do they still sell those large iPhones?
@@KenMrKLCSamsung tablets be like: so are we just jokes to you?
I have an M1 Max Studio and it's more than enough for me. CPU and GPU are fine for what I do. I could do with a bit more RAM but it's nice to know that Apple is still doing some good work on this line. I don't expect to get an Ultra but I'd expect them to make the Max better for M4, M5, etc. At this time, I could see myself waiting for 2 nm in 2026 unless my workload drastically changes. Thanks for the news details. I do look forward to see what they are going to do with the Ultra as they might bring some of those ideas to the lesser chips.
How can a risc chip replace a x86 architecture?
Wait, you mean they would release ipad M3 pro in may and the ipad M4 pro in june? Like why?
Why are they so violent, everytime I open UA-cam it seems Apple is killing something 🤔
in sports, like Volleyball, to kill the ball means making score, or winning point. So, please check all meanings of the word 'kill', and then make comment(s).
@@hasansahin7965 it's obviously sarcastic
@@jakeyounglol looking at the emoji that Spoonfed78 used, i don't agree with you.
lol ! Each year the same vidéos pattern. Last year, you announced directly the M3 Pro and Max without announcement of M3.
It was a mistake and this year you go even further and predict a M4 ultra before the reveal of the M4 family.
As no sense if a new chip is revealed at the WWDC it will be the M3 Ultra.
This was a good analysis. Good catch on the N3b, that reasoning is very convincing
Re your speculation on M4 you have some good points. Looking back I think the M4 will be the processor that was designed after the breakthrough of Chat-GPT.
Also a good point to start with the high end.
Means with M4 there is the initial opportunity from Apple to improve the processors based on the Chat GPT knowledge.
Seems like Qualcomm has started putting some pressure on apple as X Elite is on toe to toe with M3 Pro
it won’t even surpass m1 lol 😂
@@Troll_Master_911really it won’t? Chill please, Lmfao😂
Competition is great, just wish X Elite’s power usage wouldve been more similar to m3 pro since it competes with it
@@Jibale_ The only good thing is it will be a good alternative for Apple if Apple can no longer catch up it, but I doubt it will happen any time soon.
It doesn't mean anthing for Windows as Microsoft can't force developers to create Arm apps for it like Apple did. You'll have to go for Linux for that, but I doubt people will be interrested.
@@Jibale_ it's actually 3 years behind since they began recently compared to apple. They need to find a way to catch up so they can really put pressure on them.
great video, been looking for the details on this. I really need to upgrade my M1 Mac Mini, started doing 3D work and it's chugging. but definitely wanted to know more about the next studio. Definitely going to order this if it's got the M4.
So I agree with everything you are saying but the piece I think you are missing that makes everything fit together is that they are going to rebrand this chip as the D1 and differentiate it from the M series (mobile) as a dedicated desktop line of chips.
It will support higher wattage and have no efficiency cores and better graphics and ai and io support for the desktop. This will finally make clear their full lineup of A series (phone), M series (mobile) and D series (desktop) silicon.
It would not surprise me at all if they release D1 and D1 pro and maybe even higher for the Mac Pro. But I’m sure they are going to announce their entire new desktop lineup at wwdc.
That’s actually a great ideo
I thought M stood for Mac lol
This is an excellent idea!
i thought it stood for ARM and Mac
What about Mac mini? It still has m2
What I’d give for the M4pro MB to be in stores by Black Friday. .. complete with 1TB SSD and 24gb (or at least 20?) standard specs.. for $1850 on sale. Testicles crossed.
1TB and 24gb for 1850. Talk about a rip-off.
Hey guys, do you have a studio tour video?
We don't have much of a studio just yet! Maybe in the future
Do you think the new Mac Studio will have Thunderbolt 5 ports?
This tells me, though it may be introduced during WWDC, it won't be available until the end of the year. M2 Max looking better.
Chomping at the bit for the new Mac Studio or Pro with M4 chip and Ray Tracing. Had to buy a custom PC, for my design software, that does ray trace renderings.
If true, perhaps the Nuvia folks are piling the pressure. Their chips seem more catered for high performance. Apple perhaps wants to ensure it maintains leadership and design the new Ultras to be more performant
Low-end-first never made much sense to me so seeing the MBPs released prior to MBAs was more logical. Apple should move to Ultra Mac Studio/Mac Pro first then Max Mac Studio, Max/Pro MacBook Pro & Pro Mini then Mini/iMac/MacBook Air/iPad.
Yes, exactyl! Sell newest-gen chips on highest-end Macs first.
No it has to be a mix. They know their actual bread and butter is normal people who *want* to make moves, they only have their halo products for industry clout. They make all their money off of the lowest end of the spectrum with iPads and MacBooks. Desktops are purely for optics and gaining industry attention.
@@ghost-user559 of course it has to be a mix, where did I suggest they cancel the low-end products? High-end first makes more sense as initial production yields are low & the excessive cost is better justified/recovered in high-end products plus they get a better stab at technical primacy.
@@daveh6356 I am saying low end first nets them the most profitable returns precisely because normal people are the ones purchasing the majority of their inventory and high end purchases are considered niche or “professional” and generally are ore long term investments. So I’m saying the way they do it now actually makes more sense when you look at how they actually make the bulk of their money. They make far more money off of the initial hype of a lower end line then they ever receive off of the high end which is relatively small numbers of purchases comparatively, and also far less often.
When do we think M3 Mac Studio is coming
june 10th and they will call it M4
Maybe they are planning to move the ultrafusion connector from the M3 Max to the new redesigned M3 Ultra. So they can combine 2 of those to create an even faster, lets say M3 Mega chip which they can put in the mac pro tower.
What about m3 extreme ?
There are still people rocking with the 2012 MacBook Air 😎
I'm still using my Macbook Pro 2011. I did upgrade it with more RAM and an SSD which gave it a bit of a boost, but it does have some limits regarding what it can run.
Wonder if the M4 if it happens then would fix the cache bugs: ‘Go Fetch’, etc.
Think the only way is if they got games working on Mac and they optimized games to work through their translation layer .
I can easily make the most out of those efficiency cores with Handbrake and Reaper
I don't see why apple would use the new node for the ultra chips. Any silicon that uses the new node id imagine apple will use that to make as much iPhone silicon as it makes them the most money.
Well, they have enough time now to produce enough iPhone chips by September anyway. So it does make sense to start with the macs planning wise since the new N3E is available since December.
Even the 5nm was limited to Apple for just one year, in the next year not just all Apple products, but all Android flagships was also on 5nm, they improve the capacity in every year, so in the 2nd year the limited capacity is not nessesary true, even the competitors may use that too.
How much performance is really required to run iMessage?
Maybe the Studio will stick with only the M4 Ultra chip and just get a 3x or 4x binned version to replace the two base configurations.
I'm confused, if Apple are buying all the 3nm Chips, what are AMD using for their Chips that are supposed to be on the 3nm process?
what about the mac mini though? for those of us who want a desktop mac but dont need a studio
they will not release the complete m4 lineup on wwdc, because it is a software conference... m4 ultra & m4 extreme for mac pro, and m4 ultra and m4 max for studio could be the line-up for wwdc
Well-reasoned. And I hope you are correct on the Studio. Don't think they would release everything this WWDC, but releasing the M4 Studio and reversing the order of machine release like you mention makes sense.
They need to do something to differentiate the Mac Pro. I bet they simplify the line... M4 Ultra only in the Pro, M4 Max in the Studio, and then M4 Max, and M4 Pro as options in the MBP, finally, base M4 in iPads and Air.
I don't think the Apple will be skip the M3 Ultra, it's has more sense make the fully redesigning the Ultra chip into one big chip, that use the N3E, with newest technologies and more, and calling the M3 Ultra, because the Mac Studio still will come alongside with the M3 Max Chip, and in end of the year they fully surprise our with the M3 Extreme, build from the 2 M3 Ultra Chip in the Mac Pro.
I'm so glad that Apple is working so nicely and closely with TSMC! And yes, Apple is a genius, both in business and in tech!
Why do they refuse to give us the black color we want? Why are they so set on matching the 2011 Mac Mini's esthetics?
Turn off the light in your room.
@@tonyburzio4107😂
Its already been over a decade and only the Macbook M3 Max got the space black, I mean why not air and Pro 😢
nice sense of humor @tonyburzio4107
Paint it *BLACK*
M4 Mac mini would be insane to skip the M3 especially if the price tag doesn't go back to 700
So they are going to go to Maximum yield for the Ultra and then bin down Max and Pro instead of maximum core function on mid chip with poor yields at higher concentrations.
Can it run Crysis ?
Perfect. Time to upgrade my old Mac Mini :)
Great news. Thanks for the great video and the detailed information.
Omg 5 minutes in and still no M4 mentioned
Good take as always Max!
Surely will be exciting to see what they will show us on WWDC, might give us a peak...
What I think is, instead of the Max chip being the high end of developement, since the Apple Silicon is now matured, the Ultra chips would become the high end and will contain the ultrafusion technology.
The Apple Car had something similar , where they fused 4 ultra chips together for the computing process.
Well, lets see.
Here’s 2x more speculation.
1) Perhaps the hardware security flaw in the M3 chips has led to Apple redesigning the M3 chip to incorporate a fix. In that case, the new chip may simply be an M3’.
However, if Apple is contemplating leading the M4 generation with M4 Ultra, that would be quite an engineering feat. The logical progression engineering-wise is simple to complex. According to your speculation, M4 Ultra first would mean they push the envelope first and then (simply) strip down and add back some efficiency cores. Sounds unlikely, but I hope you’re right. Marketing-wise, it would be great. Put out the heavy-hitting hardware first, and then feed the masses with normal kit.
2) Let’s say you’re right. With all the delays on M2 and M3, perhaps M4 generation is the perfect generation to jump the gun on Ultra. Apple has (in theory) had way more time to design the M3 then M4 than anticipated. Maybe the engineering team has a fully designed Neural Core in hand burning to put into silicon. If so (and the AI bump M4 rumors are true), then not only could Apple nip the security flaw in the bud with M4 Ultra, but they could roll out their latest AI Neural hardware sooner than later… in keeping with their AI push for 2024 Apple WWDC. That would be great. And that would wet the appetite of developers for AI tooling in 2024 (M4 Ultra), and consumers for AI support in 2025 (M4 etc.).
Max, I hope you are onto something. It would be an engineering miracle if Apple pulled it off. And I”m not sure it would automatically work for the next (M5) generations of hardware. An M4 Ultra “one off” perhaps? I would love those more numerous, powerful Neural cores now rather than another 2x years from now.
Fingers crossed.
yep makes sense I'm convinced
Where's 2nm gate-all-around?
6:15
Hmm makes sense
That's cool, but I feel apple is out of luck considering they don't have the same software support that AMD and Intel have. Cuda support, nope... Rocm? Nope... AMD, nvidia and Intel all have arm licenses. Here's what I think is going to happen, X86 will be phased out... Why, X86 processors are 16 bit affairs, the processor bit depth is managed by the firmware (bios), cpu real mode is handled by the operating system. Aarch64 on the other hand is a 64 bit processor, from the ground up. The value of not having to shift through registers in arms risc architecture makes it more efficient, less power hungry and more resilient to race conditions. An arm processor with low level support of Intel op codes could really change computing, and I think this is what's next. Intel and AMD will have an X86 / arm hybrid. Sounds farfetched but AMD already has their versal lineup, and they have explicitly reported having arms amba directly on die for their next X86 cpu's ... Within 10 years, we'll have an X86/ arm hybrid... mark my words...
just bring back the imac to it's full glory. We've waited 4 years 😭
BREAKING NEWS! The next chip, the next iPhone the next Mac’s will ALL be faster than years prior. I know right? Unbelievable!!!! Just when everyone was thinking they were going to make them slower!
that isnt what the video was about at all
Did you even watch the video?
Damn I'd like to see an M4 MAX Mac Studio or even M4 Pro release during WWDC... I had my eyes on an M2 Pro/Max but maybe I'll go M4 Pro/Max this time lol
I don't know if we should believe in M4 this soon after the first M3 chips. M3 came out at Halloween 2023, and now 7 months later we gonna see M4?
I just hope that Mac Studio and Pro will get updated on WWDC 2024! Either M3 or M4.
It's only 2 months left now!! That's 8-9 weeks or so. Insane!
Considering there is now m4 on ipads this seems more plausible now!
My 2017 iMac Pro is getting VERY long in the tooth, and I'm patiently waiting for whatever they are going to call the next-gen Mac Studio processors.
Here's an idea for a name. "Overpriced".
Nearly anything you buy will be faster....
@@ducktails1695
And yet still slower than anything equally priced with Intel silicon.
@@AB-80X Not at all
@@ducktails1695 Can you show me a Mac Max or Studio that will outrun or jsut hang with a 14700K or 14900K with a 16GB GPU in any bench test or say in Resolve or Premiere? What about ML or CAD? Not really. You will have to spend a lot more money on a Mac to compete which is not even really possible. That's not even a personal opinion, that's just a blatant fact. All you have to do is look up bench test results.
Apple has not been the leader in these areas for years, sorry to say. It's all Core i, Threadrippers, Xeon or EPYC.
Ray tracing and path tracing are complementary functions in 3D rendering, but path tracing still seems a ways off with Apple M3. Will M4 Ultra accommodate both? If so, Nvidea look out! I'll join the wait list for a Studio M4 Ultra, with 128 GB RAM and 2 TB SSD storage and hope for a decade of use. I'll have to sell an arm and a leg, but still, I want to keep the superior Apple hardware and OS.
omg what an amazing development. Are you really telling med they will replace the M3 with the M4? I could never have imagined that.
/s
Makes a ton of sense to just build the Ultra chip from the ground up without the extra shit. Releasing it first is cool too cause then when the other M4 chips come out, you can compare performance to the best chip and see how close you can get to the best performance Mac.
i think the interconnection of two die is a great idea but it can be better.
M3/M4 Ultra can have a CPU, NPU and other stuff on one die and a big GPU die connect directly to CPU die this technique will be much faster.
A GPU don't really need the best connection possible between CPU and GPU but all GPU core need that it's better for scaling GPU.
It's the same thing with CPU with less impact than GPU, probably the same with NPU one bigger better than 2 small with "slow" interconnect.
It is probably the only way to make a really big gap performance between MAX and ULTRA because MAX chip are already big Apple can't double the performance in only one die it's almost impossible/unprofitable to double the size of the SOC die...
Counter-thought is that there wasn't Ultra-Fusion interconnect on M3 chips if they were using the N3B node for only one "cycle" of chips, specific to one chip using it. It would be cheaper to use the wafer space to cram out extra chips without the interconnect and skip an Ultra version for a cycle when most M2 Ultra users might not even upgrade to it. I wouldn't count it being discarded, and returning with the M4 going back to the industry standard N3E. Also, since Apple was doing everything to be first to market with 3nm, it would make sense for them to make more of the smaller chips, netting more on each wafer as well as selling them first in the Air to recoup the investment quicker than a bigger die/less chips per wafer/more expensive Macs.
This is a good point! Ultrafusion could show up on M4 Max again
I would be 100% giddy if Apple released a new M4 Max Mac Studio along with the M4 Ultra version. Bring
Informative video as always. Wondering if the M4 chips will be free of the GoFetch design flaw.
These brothers are the GOATS. Literally. Good job fellas. Don't forget the LOGIC BENCHMARKS!
Maybe Apple stops the M3 Max-option in the MacStudio, and they do an additional MacMini-version with the M3 Max. The cooling shouldnt be a problem. And the Mac Studio comes in the future with an Ultra-chip only...
I hope so. my M1 Ultra is so far good enough for what I need. The only way I will splurge for an M4 Ultra is if the performance is at least double.
Dude….. you got more M3 info than M4 info. Click bait
makes sense,
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple sold M4 Ultra and M3 Max Mac Studio simultaneously though (skipping M4 Max)
I always did think the cheaper products releasing first was backwards. Rewarding premium early adopters and forcing those on a budget to wait makes more sense.
But premium hold on to their devices for longer periods too? People are still using ancient Mac Pro towers to run music studios and such
But Can It Run Crysis?
Does anyone know if they are releasing a new display?
Well, 79% extra performance from 100% more Gpu resources using its cross die bridge is most certainly significantly better scaling than NVlink from NVIDIA.
My theory here, based on some evidence.
With the M1 and M2 chips, Apple had essentially scaled MX to MX Pro and that to MX Max, two of which made the MX Ultra. But the M3 series chips took a very different approach. Apple designed the chip layout for M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max completely seperately. It's not a mere scaling in terms of chip layout. Hence, I believe (and hope) something similar is gonna happen to the M3 Ultra too.
I'm not Apple fan but with this pace they will be the company to build a ready-player-one machine
I can totally perceive the slight “glitch” from the N3B chip in my iPhone 15 Pro Max … You can’t really see it, it’s like you can feel the flawed chip in your gut. It’s hard to explain … you just know you’re using a flawed chip … you can sense it … like, my right eye will twinge a little … you know?
I'm just waiting for a M3 Mac Studio to be released. If those leaks with M4 chips are real... WOW! It will worth the wait! 🙏
Instead of coming up with new macs every year (or even shorter between the duration of M2 and M3 series), can they just release a new studio display with pro motion (120hz)? 😢
I think it would be ideal if they could drop a cheaper version catered to consumers too. (Perhaps, it might push their desktops sales as a complement product)