Bipolar Disorder: A Jungian Perspective
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2023
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Imprisoned by the sea with his son Icarus, mythological craftsman Daedalus constructed wings to escape. Beeswax held feathers in place, so Daedalus told Icarus not to fly too high or too low: the sun’s heat would melt the wax and sea spray would weigh the wings down. Elated, Icarus flew too high--and fell. Like Icarus, the moods of people with bipolar disorder swing from soaring into mania to sinking into depression. This disorder affects at least 2% of the population worldwide, with genetics by far the major contributor. BP is a major cause of disability and can also be a factor in creativity; it often brings with it anxiety, substance abuse, migraines, and more. Treatment includes medication, attention to lifestyle, and psychotherapy that includes relating to archetypal polarities. Jung says, “It is not a matter of indifference whether one calls something a ‘mania’ or a ‘god.’ To serve a mania is detestable and undignified, but to serve a god is full of meaning and promise.” Bipolar individuals soar between opposing archetypes leaving them exhausted and confused. Myths help ground the ego in a larger perspective.
Here's the dream we analyze:
“I am in a restaurant busy with people standing and moving around. I too am standing and have been given a seafood dish in an opaque glass (at first like a fancy stemmed glass for cocktail shrimp) and I slurp some of it down. Looking into the vessel I realize I've been eating raw seahorses. I continue to eat, one and then another, not wanting to be rude. They are slimy, room-temp, and gray. I look again into the vessel, which now is narrow at the top and wide at the bottom as if the seahorses, barely submerged in a grey liquid, are in a dark pit that I have to peer into, and I do realize that some of them are still moving, puckering their lips trying to breathe. I decide I cannot keep eating them. I go to where murky puddles have formed in the cement by the melting ice and crab parts of the kitchen's seafood prep. I assume the puddles to be brackish, or at least can provide a more bearable end of life for the seahorses, so I throw them in by flicking the glass. There are still more seahorses stuck to the bottom of the glass, my flicking hindered by its strange shape. People are standing and talking around the puddles now, so it's discreetly that I quickly flick the rest of the seahorses out, not wanting to be seen doing it and not wanting the seahorses to be seen in the puddles.”
REFERENCES:
Buzz Aldrin. Magnificent Desolation: The Long Journey Home from the Moon. a.co/d/j1IQZID
Jason Thompson. A Jungian Approach to Bipolar Disorder: Rejoining the Split Archetype. a.co/d/fZS821Y
Kay Redfield Jamison (multiple books): An Unquiet Mind; Manic-Depressive Illness; Touched with Fire: Manic-Depressive Illness and the Artistic Temperament; Exuberance: The Passion for Life.
S-town podcast. stownpodcast.org/
Werner Herzog (film). Grizzly Man. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly...
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I found this helpful and will explore the archetypal aspects of bipolar disorder on my own. I’ve found avoiding alcohol and getting to bed at a decent hour reduces both the frequency and the extremes of episodes.
Wow. I know nothing about Jungian psychology. I developed bipolar 1 later in life. 3 years ago I had a 9 month severe manic episode and I was dealing with different Greek gods constantly. I thought I was Medusa for several months. I had no prior obsession on the subject until experiencing mania. At the time I thought I was letting each of these entities or personalities inhabit me so that I could accurately see from their perspective. I know it sounds crazy. It definitely looked and felt crazy. The idea was that I had to obtain a higher empathy do elevate my spirit.
Really enjoyed this podcast. Little synchronicity for me is that I’ve always loved seahorses💜
Beautifully presented and as an artist with bipolar, I love the imagery. I have shared this with many of loved one's and friends. Thank you for discussing this with love and compassion and understanding.
To find spaces to talk about mental health in a human way is a blessing.
It's so sad that's exactly what happened to two friends who were bio polar, they both came out of a manic phase and the terrible guilt they felt when they were back to themselves, one sadly committed suicide, it's such a sad disease.
Such a good episode and so insightful. Incredible dream analysis as well. Thank you!
So good and helpful ! Excited to check out some of the book suggestions next time at library 😊
Please if you could cover borderline personality disorder soon honestly would really appreciate that
There is one on borderline, you should check it out!
Here you go ~ Joseph ua-cam.com/video/_jvuHxVG24w/v-deo.html
Love this channel
Thank you so much!
This is great! Would love if you did one of False Awakenings...it's a different type of Dream all unto itself to wake up and still be dreaming.
As you stated all it starts with inflamamtion. Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, autoimmune disease increase cytotoxic lymphocytes, cortisol, blood pressure, cortisol, chronic pain.
For me personality It all started with 2 chronic illnesses which were undiagnosed abck then and I think that the manic state came as a self protection for my Ego, Persona.
Now that I can show my vulnerability, now that I am not ashemed.
I regained my trust on the lord, I am still fighting addiction but I know that I am not perfect since we are a sinner.
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42:50 - blowing my mind
Do one about dissociative identity disorder? D.I.D
That could be quite fascinating
I am not doing well rn and idk how to stop this episode
As a homeopath I really like this episode, especially when Joseph points out the correlation between the substance Mercury and the mental and physical state it can cause as crude substance when poisoned with it. We would then perhaps give Mercury as a homeopathic remedy to support a patient who experiences episodes being in such a state
If you dilute that to 1 in like a billion billion I suppose that would be ok but please don’t give people mercury poisoning
42:31 56:04 powerful
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Id love to hear you all talk about delusional disorder. Nobody ever talks about it!
Have you seen the movie Lars and the real girl? I think is one of the most beautiful films representing a delusional disorder episode.
Really? I had no idea. I watched it years ago, dont really remmeber much. I'll definitely be watching it again, thanks!
Great idea! In the next few weeks, our podcast on the Schizophrenia Complex will explore delusion and psychotic experiences.
Lack of integration puer and Saturn.
Hermes and Mercury
Euphoria, restless, . Icarus don of Dydalus. Inflation and grandiosity - no realism. Manic living in realm of the gods. Spectrum. Strongly biological etc
Jay Redfield Jameson - Touched by the fire - manic depression and the artistic temperament
I had many Saturnic dream as in seeing the planet itself in a dream once as if watching it from orbit ,I had to go on anti depressants as I could no longer move well , I was engaged in Jungian dream work and seeing a therapist at the time , I suffer from bi polar disorder/Skitzo affective disorder ? , I am still on medication question mark behind the later diagnoses as they have used these two diagnoses interchangeably, also suffer PTSD