CONSERVATIVE GAY MEN ARE INSANE (ft: Austin Show)
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2023
- Jubilee hosted a middle ground featuring Conservative vs Liberal Gays over if pride is still necessary
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Hasan's point about "even if all queer people were accepted, no hate crimes etc., Pride should be a celebration of historic progress", it made me think that a good way to explain it's purpose to hogs: Pride is gay July 4th
Yeah, tbf it can be switched to a single holiday in the future if a whole month isn't very necessary anymore
except instead of attacking indigenous people, it was cops.
It kinda feels like one day with the parade anyway. And the parades don't often happen during pride month so idk
@@mycosyswell don’t tell them that part
@@mycosys the hogs aren't going to like it if we tell them that though 🤫
i love how they said that “tqia+” isn’t rooted in science as if the ‘i’ doesn’t stand for intersex, a literal medical condition.
That and "queer" is somehow not "scientific" enough.
And they're like sexuality and gender identity are two different things as if asexuality isn't a sexuality.
@@justanotherweirdo11 they just ignore the concept of asexuality like the rest of the world does
@@a.a677 fr
@@a.a677who’s they?
the disgust i felt for Mario when he talked about how he was proud to help pass an anti trans bill was insane but not surprising
The moment conservatives wipe out trans people’s rights and existence to practically nothing is THE MOMENT they’ll go after gay people next. Trans people were never the endgame.
Sometimes i wonder why people hate us so much.
Then i remember that we're their scapegoat
NGL, I would be out of there. Nah, Fuk you. You wanna talk, go ahead. Just don't talk to me. We're done here. I'll wait in the back.
"ThE Cis pRIVileGe!¡!!!"
They think they will be accepted as the model minority if they help the cause of transphobia
"Most drag shows aren't appropriate for children" Yeah, man, most movies aren't either. You don't see people wanting to ban the Minions because Evil Dead exists.
@Silencedfixer in Florida. The law banning drag shows was so vague that they effectively were totally banned. The law says the date can’t be done anywhere where there “might be children present.” that’s way too vague.
The prompt wasn’t drag shows should be banned tho it was whether or not they’re appropriate for children …. Which he was saying majority of the time they’re not like you’re arguing with a point he didn’t even make
@@molleybrackney9585 "Which he was saying majority of the time they’re not " I'm not even sure if that's true though. Plenty of drag shows aren't excessively crude or sexual and focus on being comedic or just dancing/lip syncing and of course drag story hour is specifically meant to be kid friendly.
@@molleybrackney9585it's really not a good prompt then, because the movie analogy is spot-on. You can't broadly categorize either into appropriate or inappropriate because neither has anything inherently adult about it
What are you talking about? Drag as a concept is not for children. Movies as a concept aren't mature like drag is.
The kids of “I’m not signing the permission slip for sex-ed” parents are the ones who will absolutely need it the most. They are like “these things should be taught by the parents” yet they operate on a don’t say gay basis
What the piss are you babbling about?
They operate on "Don't say anything until my child comes home with either another child of their own or an STD" and then start screaming at the kids about how much of a disappointment they are, even though you yourself are at fault as a parent.
Or, less likely, one of the few kids at my school who opted out was actually very educated on sex ed. And I get why their parent was like no thanks because my "sex ed" seminar was actual bullshit. This is like one of only valid reasons to opt your kids out sex ed imo.
I was surprised by the lack of health information and focus on getting married, virginity, and only having sex with virgins within marriage. I think there was a bit of shaming or at least heavily implied shaming towards who weren't virgins. And a kiddo in the audience was crying cause they were sexual abused in the past.
Downplaying the use of contraception, they're not completely effective so just don't have sex till after marriage. Misinformation on STIs by suggesting STIs magically spawn when people have sex with people who aren't virgins rather than transmitted by people who have that STIs. There was also zero mentioning of STD testing.
And last but certainly not least telling us not to become registered sex offenders because we'll be doxxed by being put on the registered sex offender list. And warning us about how easy it is to become a sex offender because you can never tell how old underage teenage girls are and that's it's so easy to accidentally rape someone especially when your drunk and you can't take that mistake back even if your rape victime forgives you it'll be in the police's hands. And that is why you should never drink or go to bars. And that this is another reason why you should only have sex within marriage because you can't rape your wife 👀💀💀
You know what they didn't take even two seconds to talk about instead? Consent. Like sir I am not going to accidentally rape someone, thank you. I don't know what the point of this gross rape apologist narrative was. I'm glad my classmates at least audibly reacted because we know marital rape is real even if the speaker didn't 💀.
Like I wish I was making this shit up but no, that brainrot was real. I was in shock during and after that seminar. It made me lose braincells. They gave us the opportunity to write a review of the sex ed seminar and mine took up the whole ass page because what the actual fuck did I just experience? 💀💀I kept ranting after that cause I was just so stunned and pissed at the misinformation. My friends got to know the "sex positive pro equal access to basic human health information" part me very well.
Like if my future kiddo was getting that bullshit rather than actual comprehensive sex ed, I'll happily be that parent who doesn't sign the permission slip. And I also didn't get sex ed information from my family and had to learn from the internet which is not ideal but I was provided with plenty of high quality information unlike the Texas education system. Anyway I'm definitely pro good medically accurate sex ed and no it should not be up to parents deprive their kids of access to basic health information.
I'm sorry, but if it wasn't for Pride, Mario would not exist.
Lol true
This sentence out of context sounds so funny ngl (not trying to downplay any of the sh*t Mario said/did, it just sounded funny out of context)
He either would've been forced back into the closet and live his life the way he doesn't or shot in the back of the head for being a degenerate.
It's really that simple.
The very same people who Mario is throwing under the bus (transpeople) are the ones who started the modern LGBTQ movement.
Without the T or the Q, there wouldn't be the LGBTQ.
@@bareq99”yahoo! I’m-a going to-a bowser’s castle, to save-a Bowser from-a Princess Peach! I’m coming out of the pipe! Papi Mia!”
He would still exist he would just not be out or he would be exiled. With that thought though I am sure there were plenty of people who were more then happy to embrace the hate of their family and community but were driven to pride because that hate was (realistically still is) directed at them as well. All the hard work of those that came before lets him have a seat at the conservative table for now.
If I was a kid and my parents didn't sign my permission slip to learn about whatever topic they were teaching I would just ask my friend what I missed when I got back into the class. Kids are going to be exposed to these concepts regardless. Parents are so focused on sheltering and controlling their kids, that they refuse to equip their kids with the knowledge they need to tackle issues they face in real life. Which is why kids who are only taught abstinence-only rhetoric end up engaging in unsafe sexual practices.
raised Catholic in Texas. it just doesn't work. for me or anyone I know who was in a similar situation
the thing is, these kids they claim to protect have unregulated access to the internet, which leads them down the alt right bigot pipeline as they get older and makes them little shits
Yep, all of the people I know who were raised with abstinence only, either had kids as teens (14-17) or had serious STIs.
Yep. My parents are hardcore catholics and they refused to give me the talk. All I learned from was a 1990s outdated video about periods in 4th grade, it didn’t even teach much it just told us that we’ll bleed every month and to use pads/tampons. I had no clue what sperm or condoms were or how penises even worked, I had to learn through the internet and UA-cam. I fucking learned what STDs were through teenagers trash talking me in games saying my mom had STDs. Imagine if I never had the internet! I’d be pretty fucked!
@@user-sb2wn6ju1kwhen you are in school and have friends in school then, stuff is talked about. I had a friend in middle school who told me about her incredibly painful periods. Maybe you never had friends when you were in school.
I love how Hasan is going on about Pride, while Austin is like, mmm poke bowl. 😂😂
yeah omg
Or when hasan is being super serious and Austin just can’t help himself from doing his trump voice and going “trans for trump” 🤣
I would cry if I had a straight friend able to talk like that about Pride 😭
he's like "nah he's got this handled i can sit on the sidelines for this one" and i've experienced this with some 'allies' and its nice cos defending yourself becomes exhuasting
I feel like Hasan cares more about LGBTQ issues than austin who claims to be a gay man.
I love how conservatives want to pretend trans people don’t question it themselves too. It is exceedingly rare for a trans person to just go oh shit I’m trans off the bat. For me it was years and years in my teens of repressing and pretending I wasn’t until I broke down and realised no matter what I did I was trans.
that 👆
Right? A bunch of culture war issues boil down to conservatives thinking people make these life altering decisions as easily as they order a fuckin whopper.
They don't think about that because they purposely do their best to dehumanize them. I honestly believe that if there was a hypothetical setting, where they are in a mutual friend group and a trans person was there, a large swath of these people would just act mostly normal to the trans person with maybe some uncomfortable feelings.
The Egg cracked!
right! I tried everything, like literally EVERYTHING I could to just be okay as a cis woman.
People dress half naked for music festivals, Mardi Gras, carnivale, etc. and while kids are technically allowed there, there's a CLEAR adult tone to it and pride is the exact same. If u take ur kids that's ur problem. Let adults have things
Right, has no one heard of beaches? Literally the most naked you can get in public, and yet beaches are pretty child-friendly
@@T_Cupomfg do you think they ever heard of nude beaches??? Bruh I wanna show them lmfao
There’s also family friendly drag shows and pride events. I’m so sick of people, using kids as an excuse to try and get anti-gay bills passed. It’s the same with family control options on devices. Maybe instead of a bigot and making your child my issue. How about you actually raise your child and not make it anyone else’s problem
Just coming on here to say that the World Nëked Bike Ride is actually a protest about three main things: (1) cyclist safety on motor roadways, with one of the key messages to drivers being "NOW do you see me?!?"; (2) fossil fuels, car pollution, and the environmental impacts of motor vehicles; and (3) body positivity and self-acceptance more generally.
...Which goes to show that, when faced with nüdity, even Hasan and Austin get clouded about the message and think that it's JUST an event where 'people hang out naked'. It's waaayyy more than that.
@@shakester331 yes and idk where they're getting the idea that children are allowed into drag bars & clubs in the first place bc they're literally bars, it's 21+
Comprehensive sex ed (especially when it's inclusive of LGBT+ people) is important for everyone
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. This SHOULD be one of the biggest issues of the day considering we still have at least a dozen states teaching abstinence only…you know, the states with the highest rates of teen pregnancy, STDS including a growing HIV population among young adults, incest and chomo. I can’t believe that it’s 2023 and we seem to be falling, PLUMMETING backwards.
I’m a boomer who was beat when I even brought up monthly periods. I decided at a young age I would educate my children…my “mother” insisted my eldest knowing the birds and bees at 13 would cause her to be pregnant by 16. 😂. Uhmm..she’s 42, and she and her wonderful wife decided not to have children because of health issues they both have. “Besides mom, you keep getting with these young dudes with young kids…I have a dozen younger step-siblings!”
😁
Seriously though, we’re from the South. I knew my kids weren’t going to get an education in school that would both protect them and inform them. When my eldest was 14, she had a friend come over for the night. I wasn’t going to monitor everything they were talking about, they were 14yr old girls. Apparently, my daughter educated her friend who knew absolutely NOTHING And as an only child, her friend was told that God brought her to her parents.
2 days later I had her parents and police at my front door. I literally didn’t know whether to laugh or cry..this young girl reminded me of my upbringing. When the police found out it wasn’t me doing the educating, they let the parents know there was nothing they could do except warn me my daughter shouldn’t be telling other kids. I made a remark about Santa Claus, the mother went ballistic talking in tongues. My daughter’s friend, like me at that age, didn’t even know about her period. I guess it’s on a “need to know” classified level in fundie homes. Several years later the young lady thanked and apologized to my daughter. Her parents married her off at 17 and she divorced and left the state shortly afterwards. Apparently, she wanted to be a doctor, but that was unacceptable to mom & dad. 🙄. I hope she achieved her dream, is happy and healthy, and like me, is honest with her children…if she has any.
My generation has f’d so much up…if I was my younger daughter’s age, I doubt I’d want kids these days.
It's so fucking WILD to see how prudish the US is. You're not watching goddamn hardcore fetish porn in class, you're looking at diagrams and putting a condom on a banana, CHILL. Sex is a natural drive for any animal so kids need to be informed about it to make smart choices BEFORE they get the urge to try it out. You can't pray away base instincts.
sure - but 6 year olds, or 10 year olds - dont need a rainbow book that includes how to have gay sex. or straight sex. theyre children.
@@fazelok congratulations on not understanding how comprehensive sex ed works! there's no such thing as books for six year olds that show them how to have sex.
The most "LGBT exposure" a kid that age would have is being told that most families have a mommy and a daddy, but that there are some families with 2 mommies or 2 daddies. Especially given how more kids are being adopted by LGBT couples, it seems completely fair to acknowledge the reality that not all kids have heterosexual parents.
there are. thats what red states have been removing! there are books 0 'this book is gay' for example, if youve actually looked at every page, its graphic and intense - and schools were putting it in elementary school libraries. they want to be woke, and get rainbow books - without looking at the innapropriate content of them. @@bruhdudeguyman
Conservative gays literally wake up everyday choosing to play life on hard mode...... Elden Ring style.
They play armored core 6 without os tuning and never touching meta weapons
Don't paint leftists as filthy casuals, thank you.
Actually I feel like they live on a comparative easy mode. Because they throw others under the bus so conservatives will accept them and to make it easier on themselves. It's hard to stand by your morals in the face of adversity, these people have none.
And all the oiled up hogs show up as summons and kill everything for them
Those of us who were born disabled were born in Dark Souls with the promise that Elden Ring (free choice and the means to live it) would come some day. Neofascists are our red phantoms, regardless of whether they have badges.
Gay conservatives are prime examples of those who voted "leopards eating my face party"
absolutely agree. look at the "Log Cabin Republicans" saying "i didnt think repubs would _actually_ be this homophobic! Wtf!"
@@itemushmush Log Cabin Republicans: Uncle Tom's 'roommate'
“If I throw half my own community under the buss maybe the right wing death squads will leave me alone!”
Lol that’s not how it works. It’s the same for LGBT people who support Stalinism (marxist-Leninism)
Ultimately authoritarians and fascist of any stripe will turn their guns against you if you support them.
@@itemushmush super random, but you ever see that American Dad episode with the log cabin republicans where Stan finds out his neighbors are gay? It's pretty damn funny
@@idontwantahandlethoughclassic episode
Oh I misinterpretted that "gays are oversexualised". I thought it referred to how other people (or heteroes) tend to view queer acts as oversexualised
e.g. if two dudes do even the mildest PDA it is deemed perversive/an inherently sexual act whereas if it were a straight couple, nobody would even think about it.
thats what i thought too
Ik, there are so many issues where reactionaries will take a genuinely good criticism of the way society punishes us for being queer and make it a criticism of us as people
My aunt once went on a whole rant because two women passed us while, clutch your pearls dramatically now dear reader, ....
HOLDING HANDS *GASP*
Like PLEASE I remember going to the pool with my friends as a kid and always seeing at least ONE couple literall MAKING OUT and GROPING each other in the one corner.
Dubbed "the make out corner" 😂
And all of them were straight.
Thats not scandalous or weird but people of the same gender HOLDING HANDS?! Oh somebody think of the CHILDREN
@@francescapatti2934 dear lord! hand holding?! delete this, lest you traumatize others!
@@cheesemanmaster RIGHT? I mean someone think of the CHILDREN😂
They will get IMPURE IDEAS! about hand holding 😂
My schools sent us home with permission slips for the "sex ed" classes every year. I was not allowed to have any form of education about my own body until I was in 10th grade. The first time I got my period (I was like 12) and had a panic attack in the middle school locker room because I was never educated about what was happening. That does not account for the years of self loathing and confusion I felt for my own queerness because of the lack of representation and education. It is unacceptable for anyone to go through those things, especially at the hands of their own parents. It should not be the school's job to educate children and teens about these things but for many it is all they have.
I was privileged enough to go to Catholic school my whole life (on lots of financial aid). I remember in my sophomore year, in the middle of the year two teachers were fired for being in same sex relationships. one of them was my previous english teacher and the other was my current sex-ed teacher. although she was following the curriculum guidelines given, but she still taught us about being safe and healthy in same sex relationships. and unfortunately it costed her her job. even in my extremely liberal blue state.
I am in my fifties and the fact that this is still happening today is so infuriating. I was out in my teens and had the privilege of knowing some of the people who led the movement and riot at Stonewall as well as having physical confrontations in the streets of NYC- gay conservatives and TERFs are shooting themselves in the foot to throw us under the bus!
Okay SAME on the period bit! I was about 11 and literally started crying in the bathroom when I got mine because the only thing I had ever heard even remotely related to bleeding in that area was due to disease so I thought something was horrifically wrong. Fun times! And yeah I totally agree with the queer bit too, would have been nice to have some positive rep at a young age- I didn't even know being bi was an option until I was like 14, and that's not including all the self hatred I had ages 12-17
It MUST be the school's job to educate children about these things because parents cannot be trusted not to terrorize their own children, let alone educate them such that they can detect, avoid, and describe predatory behavior.
Niether school or my parents taught me a single sex ed thing. I only knew what a period was thanks to that one King of the hill episode where Connie started hers. My sex ed teacher was like "look i have to tell you guys not to do it, but i know you already are. Just be safe. Heres a video about the puberty youre already done with". Well I didnt know what sex was like. I didnt have the internet and my parents just said "school will teach you that". Everyone failed me.
Bruh, when even Joe Rogan can fact check it live and destroy the whole argument’s existence, there is obviously something wrong with the argument 😂
What??
@Zelticon
If you ask for citations, all they will do is shut you down and tell you to stop cutting them off. 😅
Ong i was surprised to see them fact check themselves
Asking gay men about trans issues without any trans representation there is no different than having this discussion with only hetero people.
you dont need representation. everyone is human - we all have working brains, and thoughts, and emotions, and biases - thats all you need to have a productive conversation.
There is one key difference. Gay men should know better than to allow for "debate" about the right to existence of others.
yeah no, some of us are sane - because its a fact sexuality is provable - you cant prove youre the opposite sex - its lying. I can PROVE that I cant get aroused around women, only men - no 'trans' person can prove anything, even if they cut off healthy body parts because they hate their bodies and sex. (and if gender had nothing to do with sex, they wouldnt have the desire to cut off said healthy body parts, that are you know, suppose to be on their bodies)@@alchemicpink2392
You're admitting to yourself that gays and trans people aren't the same, and at the same time you expect gay people to act like they are politically half trans by association. Girl please.
You really think OP or anyone saying that is going to accept being human as the only thing needed for 'representation'? You've seen the DEI situation.
It’s always wild to me to see how people from marginalized groups will trip over themselves to uphold and advance the agendas of people who’s ultimate goal is for them to either 1) be a 2nd class citizen, stripped of rights or 2) be erased from society entirely.
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Idk, I mean it definitely is wild, but I can see how such a thing could happen.. it's the response of a scared and insecure person, imo. People do stuff like that to protect themselves.
You ever play one of those dumb party games like Mafia where someone is the murderer (who gets to "kill" someone every night) and someone is the doctor and someone is the police (etc) and everyone has to try to figure out who everyone is and catch the murderer before the murderer kills everyone? Ok good. Anyway, sometimes when people play those games, some people will end up deflecting and blaming and accusing other [innocent] people in an effort to ensure their own survival... even if it actually comes as a detriment to the group as a whole.
I think it's a lot like that, except all too real :/
When I was in my teens & living in a redneck town and realized I was gay, I took up almost every conservative talking point about lgbt+ issues imaginable in an attempt to be accepted by those around me. Looking back I say that I wanted to be a good little minority who thought that if I hated things like pride I could possibly be given a pass by homophobes who I now know would hate me no matter what (the internalized homophobic was RAMPANT)
Rights for me and not for _thee!!_
This!! In my community they use a word called “coon” for people like this who would rather infight with their community and snuggle up to their oppressor. While there is nuance to the conversation, when it comes to legislation there is none it is black and white. And unfortunately those claiming they are nuanced are part of the reason why justifications are being made for inequitable treatment and legislation.
The regret & detransition rate is actually even smaller because something like 70% detransition because they have no support or can’t afford treatment any longer
It's like saying homeless people regret having lived in a house or apartment.
too real.
The right will say that trans people are such a small minority that it's insane we are "coddling them." But in the same breath will say that detrans people are a MASSIVE problem and needs to be addressed by society.
Yeah, and then they end up re- transitioning.
Which statistics are you using?
Dude said he wants kids who have a bad environment at home to not have support at school as it creates "two worlds".
What a smooth brain take, a lot of kids have the most terrible life at home and look forward to school as the one place they won't be neglected, beat, and/or degraded. Some kids only get to eat their free school lunch, we do not need to make school children lifes harder, they will get plenty of that once they turn 18
Yeah that’s a good point, imagine them saying “well there’s no food at home, so let’s not feed them here because ‘two worlds’ - now we’re making sense.”
I need a timestamp so badly
@@raimarulightning 53:05
Yes. Second most asinine take of the whole show. If something is bad in one part of a person's life, literally everyone hopes for a better outcome somewhere else. "I'm failing chemistry." "Well, it might disturb your equilibrium if you were doing well in French class, so maybe you should fail there too."
ayo since when was lunch free @school
SHE WAS A GAY MAN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That guy has a really fucking interesting life. I don't like him, but he's *wild*
I mean technically that is true. Caitlyn Jenner *was* a gay man before coming out as a transgender
its like that "his pronouns are they/them" meme
✨She was a fairy✨
Gay conservatives have the same mindset of army recruiters
I don't think so
@@RustyNinja100idk OP makes a better argument here... because he's right
@@sea_triscuit7980 not rly but go off queen
@@RustyNinja100 pls tell everyone how much fun you had in the army so they can apply that to their own lives.
@RONYN666 I think everyone deserves this but universal Healthcare, education, credentialing, socialized emergency funds and child care. And I get to have two careers in fields I enjoy both public and private sector. Private employment is much more stressful than being in the Army.
This "I don't care what people decide to do after they're 18" argument is so vapid and disingenuous. Like, no these people obviously do care and they wouldn't simply accept a person accessing gender affirming care because they want it. These people would feel sad and angry and question the person who identifies as trans. They would say "aren't you worried about regret? are you aware of the risks of cancer?" These people would make sure that coming out as trans is as terrible as possible for any person of any age
Hence why it's apparently really difficult to access gender affirming care disproportionately to anything else relative to the medical impact.
Some of these people literally support laws that wouldn't let that one guy walk across the street in heels.
@@christophergreen6595 which is why I got the most confusion when he brought up Tennessee..
Didnt they pass a law where they would criminalize you if you walk in out in public with clothes that don't align with your birth sex..??
Last time I checked.. Long hair and heels are still mostly considered a women's thing..
@@Terry-pf4dr neither were heels
my point is mostly towards the conservative man's POV unfortunately
Regret and other medical issues are real concerns, but a flat out ban is definitely a bad approach. More guidelines would be fantastic though, cause trans stories I've heard are highly varied in difficulty of getting treatment: ranging from getting started day one to spending a year or more to get approval.
One of the most frustrating part about the Mario’s anti-trans legislation part were a lot of them saying “let him speak.” Like no he was being asked specifically to elaborate on numbers if he was so sure of himself. And he couldn’t. That was a super valid time to be extremely contentious and we saw why. He helped pass legislation and he doesn’t even have deceptive numbers to back it up let alone true numbers.
Yeah he also got to be so smug because he got his point out and he dosent care now. Like he is such a pos that when they come for his dumb ahh he’ll cry and wonder why and his “accomplishments” will be the links on his ankle locks.
Literally he let him speak, followed up with a question, mario cant answer, gets pushback, all of a sudden its "LET HIM SPEAK" again.
Like he got to speak already hes just mad he's getting pushback.
that’s why i hate jubilee. they wanna be civil with people who are actual demons
@@AshMos Jubilee uses a right-wing lens for everything, and they pretend that professional, right-wing pundits are "everyday people". Fuck them!
That guy Mario is a liar and should not have been allowed to stay on the panel. I don't mean like the producers should have removed him. The non insane gays should have told him to leave or they would remove him. He needs to get the message that he is not allowed to do such harmful things without any reprisal.
the conservative gays all have a certain... look
Likely the kids of army dads who finally accepted them after several years in the closet, but still keep them under their thumb for when they “get out of line” (AKA get a little “too gay” for them).
that SF in september drip
Plastic minds, plastic voices, plastic faces.
Abercrombie and FleshEatingZombie?
thank milo
I really respect the gay libs on this one, when mario said he voted for an anti-trans bill I would have thrown hands or stormed off
Toddler behavior. Zoomers shouldn't be considered adults until they are 45. How many times would you have stomped your feet?
@@Ykesha People being outraged at fuckwits passing or helping pass legislation that makes it legal to discriminate against marginalized groups is not "toddler behavior" you're just being an asshole. Asshole behavior doesn't go away no matter how old you get, sadly.
I would have been so disrespectful.
@@Ykeshabro do you hear yourself rn?
And you would have been in the right.
Mario doing his best to be Candace Blowens
Cares
17:00 the dude has just said "trans is a sexuality" - this is what they said back in the 90s with the whole idea that transphobes have gone with of "autogynophiles". ITS NOT A SEXUALITY!!!
That's not what he appears to be saying, though. His argument seems to be "homosexuality is a sexuality and transgenderism is an identity, therefore we should separate them, as their ideals are different".
Which is still a dumb point, as they obviously have a lot in common, both being marginalized communities and having so much intersectionality that separating them only hurts progress anyway.
well, they called it transexual - but its all fake anyways.
"As a senior in this community..." He's got the conservative hits! Bringing out the you'll understand when you're older and more conservative response.
Also it would be interesting to ask him WHY seniors in the gay community in general aren't super old, like 40s or 50s tops... Maybe it has something to do with so many queer people dying in the 80s and 90s due to inaction from the Republican administration, and people still getting hate-crimed in current times.
@@Grrranola It hits when you say it like that. My beloved uncle never got to leave his 30's (nor did his partner) because of AIDs
they'd be in their mid-60's if they were still alive
Saying that schools shouldn't be a place where children can feel safe if they don't at home is fucking insane
Before I transitioned 4 years ago, I was sleeping 16 hours a day, had no appetite to the point of losing 30% of my total weight, was constantly frustrated. All that improved on hormones and I found out I love cooking. Recently, I was unable to get spironolactone (t-blocker) for a month and all of those issues came back. I've also had 2 gender-affirming surgeries, both of which improved my mental health considerably.
Damn I feel bad for you. A year from now you’ll regret everything
@@collinredrick8037 Already on 4 years as stated above lol no regrets other than not transitioning sooner
@@collinredrick8037lol whats wrong with you?
I'm so sorry you have had the added stress of access to medication. Is it common for people to be denied spironolactone? As a nurse we use that for so many things, like heart failure. I think it's over the counter in some countries.
@@acrookedworld7512no you don’t understand. Collin knows that on the fifth year that regret will totally start to kick in. 💀
"nobody taught me to be gay" yeah that's not the point, it's about making sure kids know what they get into.
Something this guy would probably have loved as a kid.
Parents do get involved, most just don't want to be involved.
huh?
Hey! I'm from Nebraska. THAT FUCKER WAS A MAIN MOTIVATION FOR ME FLEEING THE STATE!!!
Edit: I'm a trans girl.
im so sorry to hear :(
Fr what was jubilee thinking with this one. I swear they must have scouted him out to platform the most unhinged takes possible
@@Bareq_99 the worst part is missing family, who have been accepting across 90% of them. I told them as much that i'd be leaving if Pillen got elected as well, and i think they lowkey thought it was a bluff up until i flew to Arizona back in April. Packed 2 weeks of clothes and my important documents, then closed my apartment lease and left. Threw away my life to escape that place, and it was the best decision i've ever made
@@AdDelayed damn.. I'm sorry for that :<
Wait Arizona..?? Is it also not good for trans people tho..??
@@Bareq_99 it's not exactly actively trying to protect us, but the community is better and people look at me like a person
These were the same kinda gay men who said Marsha P Johnson should “quiet down”
okay? the past already happened. opinions on anything dont really matter all that much. this comment isnt revolutionary.
@@fazelokyou just keep commenting on every comment trying to do what because your arguments are completely false and irrelevant
As an openly gay man in Alabama, I have been trying to work up the gumption to leave the house with my nails painted for well over a decade. The one time I didn't have time to take off the polish before needing to take a quick trip to the store, I was literally FOLLOWED by some men who clearly were not trying to congratulate me on "living my best life" That Na'vi guy is so completely out of touch with just how terrible it is for a HUGE portion of gay men that are afraid to even leave their homes because they "dare to have" a lisp or because they walk 'girly'. Our pride celebrations never have more than like 20-30 people because we are JUST not there and frankly it is just not safe. We have no community here and there is no pride, only shame and guilt and a constant reminder that everything about you is fundamentally and morally wrong.
Then vote Republican so you can afford it.
@@AttmayVoting republican is a mental illness. lol
@@Attmay afford what?
Read again what he wrote
On monogamy being "natural" or not. I saw a Stanford University lecture on how they did a study on two different kinds of voles/moles. One was super monogamous , one super polyamorous.
They eventually narrowed down the gene/hormones that heavily influenced the behavior and were able to medically switch their behaviors around.
Anyways.
TL:DR Humans are all over the place with some statical tendencies. The tendency is to be monogamous but for a specific period of time, then go to a new partner. (It seemed to correlate with how long it would take to raise a child until it can feed itself.)
HOWEVER like a gradient scale there are peeps who are more monogamously inclined and some who are not.
Humans are neat. So... Just let people do what they feel is best for themselves because we're all different.
Your TL:DR is longer than your original post lmao
Agree with you tho
Too bad people find spectrums terrifying.
If you look at Cishet divorce statistics it’s wild how they think monogamy works. Lol it works like a screen door on a submarine
That's interesting!
I personally prefer monogamy more. Its simply that I cant imagine myself dating more than one people. And it would be really stressful to have feelings for more than one person. I'm open to polyamory if I find the idea neat at some point, but I definetly prefer monogamy more. I dont think one of them is unnatural, I see it as more of a preference.
Society literally views all these guys as liberal gays. No matter their take, they will always be grouped in to a monoculture because of conservative culture
The ponytail guy is still gonna be viewed as trans. Every drag queen is also.
Yes! It’s absurd to me really how these people think. To most conservatives even outside of US, they are just gays.
huh? no. every right winger ive ever talked to - has been honest, open, and interested in my views - being a gay republican - every leftist ive ever talked to - has said bigoted things to me - attacked me for my beliefs - and never tried debating, or understanding what I am. its literally the other way around. liberals view me as 'gay' and nothing more - or being a 'monster' for not standing up for every single minority group on the planet - because every minority is the same? the biases and assumptions on the left are crazier. god.
The fact that trans kids like me even have to listen to people debate about whether or not they should exist is so fucking horrifying
It really solidifies the fact that this isn’t a free country. If it were true freedom there wouldn’t be people able to vote on things that affect me and not them.
I agree it’s absolutely disgusting and as a slightly older trans person I feel so sad that this debate is still going on and affecting younger generations. I hope you know that you are loved and that you have every right to exist and be happy no matter what conservatives and transphobes may say
huh? no one is saying you dont exist. youre a person in the world. you were born a certain sex, and you hate your body to the point of trying to change it. rather than saying - youre feminine or masculine - terms that already exist. you dont need to change your name - your parents chose it for a reason (and names for males... are that way for a reason, names for females... that way for a reason) - and pronouns arent a choice - theyre based off your sex.
you expect the world to affirm your decisions, when you couldnt accept yourself for what you were born as. im gay - I accepted myself. rather than affirming, or seeking affirmation for decisions and thoughts that arent important (like gender stereotypes, that mean nothing) - accept yourself for what you have always been, full stop. wear dresses if you want, wear jeans if you want - no one is stopping you. just accept that social norms also exist - and you dont have a right to expect attention, or affirmation for those choices. make decisions based on what YOu want - not because you want a costume for others to notice.
Nobody is saying you don't exist, just that you have a 41% chance of making yourself not exist and that isn't good for kids. But go off.
@@fazelok
your comment shows you know nothing about trans people
THERE IS A NAKED BIKE RIDE IN PHILADELPHIA EVERY YEAR. and they’re worried abt “having ur genitals out” on PRIDE ?????????
*obama voice* let me be clear. i don’t hate the bike ride in philly, im sure the residents might hate it but idk. it’s just.. there’s so many other things to point at too but everyone’s like “aaa gay people!!” EVEN THE GAY ONES!!!!!
My friend’s father (a straight, cis man who would be 101 if he was alive) used to ride in that race before they moved out to the west coast.
Fr like if you don't want to see nude people, don't go to Seattle.
One is consensual other is not. What is so hard concept of consent?
Wait till they learn about naked beaches and public saunas😂
I grew up in Germany I have no idea why people are so scandalised by nudity😂
Ofc dont be going around naked without it being announced.
Like the naked beach is a public place as well, but you know to expect nakedness.
Pride that isnt disclosed as being family friendly, I guess should simply be one of the events where you should expect nudity.
(Idk Ive never been to a pride parade, bc there arent any NEAR me)
Gay rightoids fighting over who gets to be last on the train
Man this last year+ has been so scary. Despite scrolling past and giving no interaction I still get recommended occasional anti trans videos with totally made up scenarios about like trans person exposing themselves or something in locker rooms, the fear mongering is insane and so many people fall for it
I'm so burnt out on it... I can't escape people hating my existence constantly
@@heythankstommy stay safe, algorithms and media may promote hate but it overshadows all the people who are supportive and normal about this stuff which is some solace
Same idk how but I'm always getting suggested posts from the dark side of the gram.
@@heythankstommystay safe 🙏🏻 you are not alone ❤
I recommend turning off watch history so the only things that are recommended are things you've approved by subscribing or liking. As long as you can trust yourself to not create an echo chamber
We had the nudist biking thing happen in Vancouver BC and I had a friend shortly after bring it up to me as if it were some pride event going on in front of children, literally had to yell at him to realize how ridiculous he was being..
i live in Seattle, happens pretty often here and Hasan is right that it is so wildly not talked about. seeing a naked person in the city is just kinda normal.
@@violeta373I live near Seattle and I didn’t know that was a thing lol!
@@violeta373exactly, when straight people are just butt ass naked for no reason it's fine, when queer people express their sexuality while still remaining somewhat clothed (I've never seen public nudity at pride) it's 'indecent' yeah ok.
it isnt ridiculous. you arent allowed to be naked in public. thats a fact. cant pee in public, or do anything else... theres a reason for it. pedo.
My friend was 26 when she got breast cancer. She had asked for a double mastectomy to help reduce further risks. They denied her. She did give a breast reduction but still has F's.
I, honestly, believe they denied her because she's a lesbian, has short hair, etc. I know it is not always necessary but I, also, don't see why they wouldn't if she asked and they were already doing a reduction. She wanted them gone and it didn't happen.
it’s so ridiculous 😭😭 i live in fl and doctors believe i have a gene that puts me at risk for breast cancer. they won’t test me until i’m 18 because they wouldn’t be allowed to treat me until then. it’s so insane that they’re denying genuine medical care bc of transphobia.
This is a bit weird.. She was a cis lesbain aduilt who got refused medical treatment??
Are conservatives going after that now??
Is she ok btw?
@@bareq99She was denied most likely because of profiling. Some people think that having short hair and being a lesbian means you’re trans. Still doesn’t excuse her not accessing healthcare, especially given that she had literal breast cancer. They valued her boobs so much that they would let her get cancer again (and she is at risk of doing so given she already had it) than just letting her choose what’s best for herself.
@@Docypher this is so f*cking moronic
I hope she goes to another place to get what she needs
Not even here, in the literal middle east.. You get denied Healthcare
That is genuinely sketch. Especially if they didn't give her a good reason why not.
Honestly this is so interesting to watch as a gay person who had almost the exact same thoughts and feelings as the conservatives in this vid when I was a teen in a majority republican small town. Its just loads and loads of internalized homophobia and a desperate need to be liked by people who were never going to like you in the first place, wish they'd realize that
Absolutely. Well said.
yeah no. As an ACTUAl gay republican, I have no idea what you mean. Im republican BECAUSE I think we deserve the country - not illegals. I think abortion is disgusting, because its life at conception and if it takes months for a woman to go get an abortion, it shouldnt be allowed to happen - because there needs to be a cut off, And facts dont care about your feelings - gender crap means nothing - you cant change your sex, being trans isnt real.
I love how internalised homophobia is the ‘gotcha’ phrase used for any member that strays from the flock.
The LGBTQIA+ used to pride itself on diversity of thought and expression and now it’s so dogmatic, it’s basically a religion.
As a gay man. No, no they are not insane. Don't absolve them of culpability like that, even in jest. They know full what they are doing. There will _always_ be people willing to trade solidarity for personal gain.
Gay conservative is oxymoronic
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Not really, the ancient Romans and Greeks were pretty gay and they haven't existed for 1500 years, now if that's not traditional I don't know what is.
@@Tester-sh1mn Modern conservatism is 90% based on ideas only made 100 years ago. Also those queer Greeks still thought slaves were ok, and women are subservient.
@@Tester-sh1mn I thought roman and greek gay acceptance was just pedastry cause as an adult getting fucked by another man was seen as emasculating and therefor Taboo
I really dont want to defend right wingers, but there is a huge difference between an economic conservative and a social conservative, that is entirely lost n the US 2 party system of thinking
Mario says he hasn't had a personal negative experience. PERSONAL. YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS NOT EVERYONE ELSE'S.
"You're the reason why we still need Pride" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Google says 1.7% of people are intersex. Das a lot.
I’ve always felt blessed by gay pride and trans pride, even though I am a CIS straight man.
Cause people always said I was gay and effeminate. Their pride allowed me to be proud.
C-s is a slur and tr-ns is a choice. I reject the allyship of anyone who supports it.
@@Attmaycissy cis cis cissy OOooOooo
I ve actually recently seen a study debunking that rate and claiming that it s actually about %0.018 of people. Because 1.7% is derived from a study which had an extremely broad criteria to be intersex. It included people like women with higher levels of testosterone than usual, or people with very small genitals than average etc.
@@selintuncer6262 that's still intersex. intersex isn't just "having both sets of genitalia" or whatever
I know “live your truth” is kinda corny, but I mean it when I say it to you. Your ally ship is cherished, and I support you in return!
It’s almost like if youre trans under 18 you’re a witless unthinking victim and if you’re over 18 and trans you’re a predator. Who is mario kidding? He isn’t going to suddenly like a trans kid when they become an adult. He’s just gonna start saying “this trans person wants to corrupt your child!”
as someone who started HRT AS A MINOR. this whole "protect the kids" notion is total bullshit. the HOOPS i had to go through to receive testosterone a mere 6 months before turning 18 were insane. i had to see a LICENSED gender therapist. establish care, continue care for 4 months, and then have a conference with the LEAD counselor & a parent. he explained absolutely everything to myself and my mom; even the really embarrassing stuff. it was not until SHE consented that I was granted my letter supporting HRT therapy.
this is all without even mentioning the medical care itself!! i had to find an HRT physician who was taking new patients, accepted my insurance, and would provide a minor with gender affirming care. then i had to have a consultation with the doctor, get parent's consent AGAIN, get proper bloodwork and physical tests done, and THEN. only after ALL THAT. could i start HRT.
and i believe that all these safeguards are beneficial! anyone not performing them is guilty of malpractice. you need to operate with integrity and honesty, and on the basis of consent from the parent, when treating a minor.
i have also had 2 gender affirming surgeries. NOT A SINGLE SURGEON IN MY STATE PERFORMS GAS ON MINORS. they will straight up turn you away and tell you to come back when you are of age. the doctor who gave the 15 year old a mastectomy is a FREAK and should lose his medical license.
giving minors plastic surgery is ALWAYS IMMORAL. cis or trans!! so why this one case got everyone worked up about trans people is insane. the doctor should lose his license regardless. but he is part of the 0.0000001% (obviously exaggerating) of doctors that would perform a non-necessary surgery on a minor.
it's never about kids. it's a foot-in-the-door technique to start passing legislation. they want ALL trans people, and even all queer people, erased. trans kids are just the right hot-button issue to start feeding people propaganda with.
51:42 dude is SO aware at that moment his left fist is perfectly positioned - i truly applaud his restraint because i don't know if i could have held it back. The way he literally facepalms and is just literally "i just f
There should be "NOT WANTED" posters of this guy on the wall of every gay bar (and decent venue) in America
I second that motion! He'd better not come back to Lincoln, that's for sure!
He should just cat walk with his high heels throughout these red states all day long instead.
Funny of you to assume there aren't lgb supportive gay bars.
I know I've been less than welcomed in gay spaces as a straight trans woman.
funny of you @@Hhh-j8o to attack other trans people in queer safe spaces.
@@Hhh-j8oWell tbf you are straight
I find conservative gays in some ways to actually be worse to the gay community than straight homophobes because they tend to normalize prejudice in a lot of way. They are people who have swallowed up so much abuse and indoctrination that it spews out of them, and they tend to turn that upon others (i.e. trans). They are very easily used against the interests of gay communities. Dave Rubin would be a perfect example. He's somebody who has sided with Russia, for example, over the criticisms of America's "Woke military", despite that actually benefitting him and his family.
What prejudice??? Can you do anything other than make up a victim status?
@@bobbun4369 Well asshole… I’d say over 430 anti-LGBTQ laws in the last while and massively increased acts of political violence and murder against LGBTQs (and even their allies) would count.
@@michaelcouchman2820" 430. Anti lgbt laws"
Ya.. I can bark empty political slogans too. How about elaborate. Or do you not even know what you are saying?
Watch how stupid you sound
Me: " 465 anti family and anti christian laws"
Doesnt communicate anything right? Thats exactly what your comment looks like
@@bobbun4369 Bro Im not even American and I have a better understanding of the legislature being passed in your country. That is just fucking sad bro. You gotta stop worrying about queer people and start focusing more of your energy on the education system that left you behind
Gay conservatives. The epitome of "screw you, got mine."
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Screw who exactly? Gay conservatives and trans conservatives agree on the same things, so I wonder who you think they're excluding?
Screw you? Can you explain?
I’m gonna guess when Mario walked around in heels in bigotvilles, he either wasn’t alone, or he was strapped.
Mario went too far when he used his experience of not running into a bunch of homophobes, to insinuate that homophobia basically doesn't exist anymore or that we don't need Pride anymore because of it. Even if there was 0% homophobic persecution, that doesn't mean we're no longer a community anymore. The Irish aren't persecuted for a long time, and we still have St. Patrick's Day.
Mario is literally a Proud Boy who goes around with his fascist brownshirt crew made up largely of homophobes assaulting people. Of course he’s going to say the bullshit he’s saying.
"I passed one of those laws in Nebraska." Me, a person from Nebraska: EXCUSE ME WHAT
That was my reaction too, why the fuck is this asshole in our state?
He’s a sick bastard.
praying for Nebraska i know there gotta be some normal, sane people in that state
Austin is right, that guy really talked a lot about Grindr. There are plenty of apps that are accessible to the gay community to find LTRs. Yes, there are plenty of apps for fun and something not serious but still have options for the more serious ones. This is what happens when you close off your options. You just don't know and you end up isolating yourself.
At 41:35 it is so obvious this is American. Beyond the examples that Hasan gave of Disney and Robin Williams... Drag has been a staple of British culture for YEARS, in the form of the winter pantomime: a play designed to be child-friendly which pretty much always has a character in drag (known as the Pantomime Dame. They can be anything from a kind, sympathetic motherly-character to being the actual antagonist. It is so prominment in theatre culture that the widely popular Matilda musical uses the idea and casts Ms Trunchbull using a drag performer in the UK version of the musical.
Drag is meant to be silly and fun.
Pantos are iconic as someone who is irish I agree that drag has also been a huge part of our culture just look at mrs browns boys. Drag is a huge part of mainstream comedy here.
Reading this gives me a lot of nostalgia for when my dad would take me to watch pantomimes with my brother and mum, and they're funny as hell.😂
But you know what's also funny is that many Americans have watched some form of drag themselves. literally, think of 'White Chicks' and all those kinds of comedies.
I couldn't do this, I'd just start crying so I don't start swinging
Specially when he started talking about getting those laws to pass, I could not have resisted him being in a punchable distance
Same
literally 😭
THE BLACK MAN REALLY SAID “separate but equal” LMAOOOOOOO 15:10
pft this Jubilee has no purpose but to launder hate-speech. As if there is effin debate about human rights it should be 100 liberal gays vs 1 conservative -thing- coz that's how the survey results actually show, and I'm being generous.
I think that's the whole program. It's wild how constantly they invite professional media conservatives.
it's a hate-speech laundry machine and if Hasan is serious he should not stream it if he is not criticing THE CHANNEL.@@christophergreen6595
Yep. Gives these bigots the illusion of legitimacy
Jubilee is fascist propaganda and should be treated as such.
It seems like that's been the point for a while. It's under the guise of "finding a middle ground."
Yeah, let me talk to people that wants to put me in a death camp for my complexion and identity to find a *"middle ground"* for that *_shit._*
By the end, we see why Mario doesn't get issues from people. Cause he's proud to do their bidding. He's the token for that specific and current hateful movement.
It’s pretty obvious he craves attention, look at his hair and outfit. It’s screaming look at me. By going against the grain and saying “I love the Conservatives and fight against my own community”, he garners attention from both sides. He doesn’t care if it’s good or bad, he just wants eyes on him.
Hasan is the foe I need. It would be so nice not to have to defend myself and have just a straight friend speak for me 😂❤
Using the s-word to refer to that way of life is an act of violence against Gay people.
@@Attmaywhy are you so stressed and frustrated in every replies section… if you’re mad then leave the comment section and whole video
is he str8t?
as a trans youth from nebraska the passing of that law was heartbreaking
you deserve to have people in your congress who care about you. I hope the people in your life who care about you will vote like they do
As a Gay man, that law needs to go nationwide.
@@Attmay "as a white dude, I should be able to say the N word without consequences"
Some of these arguments are just complete nonsense.... my sister couldn't even get a breast reduction surgery, that was recommended by multiple doctors because of the back problems she was experiencing, at 17 with parental consent. She had to wait until she turned 18, even with all the proper referrals and parental consent...
The fact they're discussing the queer community and oversexualisation in the community and that they don't mention asexual people at all is driving me insane
Q---r is a slur. Flagged.
nobody cares abt asexuals
It’s because none of them are asexual. They don’t have the experience to speak on that.
@@AttmayQueer isn’t a slur.
“Trans for Trump” was too good from Austin 😂
Number 1 LGBTQ foe dropping another banger 🗣️👏
The deepest darkest pits of hell are reserved for people like Mario.
Not even eternal torment is a worthy punishment.
You people really are the party of hate
The chemistry between Hasan and Austin is crazy.
sexual chemistry
@@jkim-ph1dsif only
If they go after kids taking Puberty blockers then go after my adhd drug I took as a kid that stunned my puberty as a side effect.
Trans hate needs to stop.
that Mario guy is going to get turned into a fucking cigarette by the same people he allies himself with
That's as, if not more, likely with lefties given their response to perceived wrongthink even when they have failed to actually look at what was said.
DAMN man if it means free healthcare Id call myself "gay" xD
love conservative gays competing for who thinks they should pull the ladder up behind them the fastest 🎉 living their best lives
They're not on the roof, they're on the ladder. If the ladder got pulled up, they'd also fall. Their "friends" already have their knives ready for the backstab.
@@OneEyeShadowcouldn’t have said it better myself!! they’re doing the ladder equivalent of sitting on the branch like bugs bunny thinking the saw will cut the whole tree down
Your analogy implies someone is at the bottom of the ladder? Gay and trans conservatives agree on the same things so who are you saying they're pulling up the ladder from?
@@GM-qq1wi themselves. notice when people like michael knowles get up on stage to talk about the need to “eradicate ‘transgenderism’ or ‘gender ideologies’ from public life” they never mention any special carve-outs for people like Caitlyn Jenner or Blair White. It’s the “leopards eating my face party” thing. They do all of the work for cis het conservatives without realizing that they will never be real members of the team.
My favourite gay man reaction with Austinshow
Wish I hated myself enough to spread it to people I've never met across the country, like wtf
i made 200 dollars working for drag queens as a 17 year old. they literally just sing lady gaga and use millennial dirty humor, its really never that deep
I hope mario lays in bed afraid and sad for the rest of his life.
I hope everyone learns about him in history class as the traitor he is.
No he won’t, he’ll be just fine.
i'm an autistic lesbian and i'm never gonna reveal either of those parts of my life until i trust a person enough to know that i'm safe to be 'myself' with them. if that doesn't say a lot about the necessity of pride idk what does.
You are an angel. I am a gay man with autism and find everything exciting in life. Conservatives make autistic people feel like dirt and I hate that too. Pride is a comfort and joy for me and enthusiastic about many things because of my autism as I'm sure you do as well. Its nice to see people and society acting like we are all human.
I love Hasan more after watching him defend our community as much as he did this episode
He’s doing the heavy work while Austin is eating, I love it😂
Jubilee once again bringing on conservative political activists and pretenting they're just normal run of the mill people
The fact that they normally bring on conservatives that have larger backgrounds and even went as far as grabbing a dude that straight up work for PragerU says a lot.
The gall of conservative gay men to say "we don't need pride anymore" and "we shouldn't include the 'tia'" when trans people were at the heart of the Stonewall uprising and the LGBTQIA+ movement is appalling.
The guy who said "Marsha was a gay man" is notorious for those braindead takes and statements on TikTok. I had the displeasure of finding him on my FYP one day and he was arguing with a trans lesbian about calling herself a lesbian, saying that she can identify as a woman, but she is straight because she has a penis and has sex with people with vaginas. She then goes on to say she has sex with people who identify as women regardless of genitals, to which he says, "well then you're bi end of discussion." Like dude, you are not the label police, stop trying to tell people what they are when the only person whose labels you can police are your own out in the real world.
And he's correct. Marsha was
Marsha WAS a gay man.
No he is not
I just got rejected from the University, another year wasted but I'm watching this now to divert my attention.
skillissue
Your life is OVER if you dont get into a top uni. better start smoking ice!
These replies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean.. didn’t make uni? guess you’re better off in a ditch
Ain't nothing wrong with 2-year schools. Some folks need that step to get into 4-year schools
At what point is Jubilee going to be outed as being funded by the heritage foundation?
having your parents do your entire sexual education sounds like hell.
I know so many parents who just don’t talk about sex or don’t do it well.
hasan's giggle is legendary. Its so heart-warming
Bro I live in NC, and have had people scream f** at me out the window MANY times just for walking around w a Skateboard 😂
The Confederate south is a nightmare.
It really depends on what one interprets by “over sexualized”. I suppose a conservative gay person would interpret it as “gay people in media talk too much about sex” or something, while someone on the more left side could interpret is as “Straight people think more about gay sex including whatever gay sex they think I might be having in the bedroom regardless of the reality of things”. I’m both queer and trans and I would definitely say the last part. I feel like the homophobic straight think more about gay sex than most gay people. It’s weird too, if I met some guy and find out he’s straight, I don’t start thinking about him railing chicks and I feel like that’s what in general queer folks are like when we find out someone is straight. But some random cishet can talk all day, and probably think about it even more in private, about whatever sex even a hypothetical gay person might engage in.
thats the problem with Jubilee videos, the questions are always so subjective cause it makes better arguments. its not just that question they ask things that could be interpreted in many different ways because the way the two groups of people use terms is inherently different. i.e. right vs left people would interpret woke differently and argue based on their subjective interpretation
I think the only thing wilder than this discussion is that on the original video, all the comments saying "PRIDE IS TOO SEXUALIZED, I SAW PENISES HANGING OUT AND MEN HAVING SEX IN THE STREETS!" are getting thousands of upvotes, that has to be an astro-turfing campaign.
bro the fact that they had to let him cook was so painfully funny, all I could do was laugh at how dumb that was, if I was there I would not have been able to be that patient, props to those guys honestly
58:00 lmao them assuming women don't also engage in poly/homoerotic behavior esp with friends. we do the same thing bc i agree it is natural and sort of a biologically driven protection against pregnancy lol. being pregnant is extremely dangerous especially for humans and it also helps strengthen bonds within groups. both of these things contribute to the survival of the species.. makes perfect sense theoretically when looking at a social kind of animal like humans or other primates. i hate talking like this about people bc its so weird but genuinely i have thought the same thing
the US literally circumcises newborns which is literally cosmetic gender affirming care
These guys are the insecure ones who won’t hold their partners hand in public because of “what people think”
Not insecure, smart, I ain’t tryna get hate crimed
It’s not about being insecurity, it’s about safety and avoiding potential conflict.
But they’re not doing it for safety most of the time. It’s more an internalized homophobia and self conscious issue
@@juno1269speak for yourself, all it takes is one homophobe out of all the people we pass on the street and my date goes much worse than I had hoped. It sucks but that's just how it is in a lot of places
what r u talking about lmfaoo
A lot of gay men have internalized homophobia. Their discomfort is exacerbated when others are overtly sexual. Like some girls with large breasts have a problem with other girls with large breasts that accentuate it.
I was vacationing in San Francisco during Pride a couple of months ago. My family and I watched the parade the morning of our last day there. There were THOUSANDS of people who marched in the parade. I saw TWO people during the entire thing that were full or partially naked and they were pretty easy to miss in all of the activity.
Just like EVERY other bigoted criticism they make, this claim is overblown at best.
Imagine wanting tax cuts that much.
I was taught abstinence-only sex ed. You will not be surprised to know that it did not work. It sort of actually backfired.