@@loganblackwood2922I feel that was the thinking of every straight man when we watched the show back then. Why do you think Robot Chicken made a skit of it with John nailing Cameron at the end? My 12 years old full of hormones was all over moon for Cameron back in the day lmao.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349I would risk termination to provide for her the service of spermination. A decade and a half later and she is one of the few actors that send me back to teenage hormones.
Arnold’s terminator even explains in T2 that they sense things so I don’t understand why Jhon would suspect they don’t. What Cameron is trying to say is “Hey dumbass, we’re very similar to humans in order to blend in. That means I can feel things.”
If you take a closer look at 0:04, I think that John actually smiles for a second before asking her what is she doing. Almost as if his "true" feelings for Cameron tried to break through his cocky personality, but he quickly hides those under his facade.
I interpreted it as him kinda finding the image funny. Like here is a terminator, awkward spreading her foot out the window. Not a pose you'd typically imagine a killing machine would do. XD
People in the series don't understand that neural net CPU is an artificial brain that can learn. Terminator's CPU is like miniaturized Skynet. With time it becomes more and more human. With all the advantages and flaws.
@@birdman6427в одной из серий у неё HUD экран пропал и она стала себя считать Элиссон Янг со слезами и со всеми эмоциями. Видимо у неё после взрыва повредился не просто чип, а запустил процесс ИИ. Замечательный был сериал. Она всё серии обретала более человеческие эмоции и понимание отношений, мне кажется, она даже ревновала Конора к девченке из будущего. На сколько она привязалась к Джону без пронраммы. Как она сказала я всегда хочу тебя убить Коннор, видимо она делает, что хочет как простой человек.
When she overrides the command to kill him is the first act of ... "love" dare I say. Then she tells him that she can "feel" and emphasizes that. She also proves extremely jelly for a T when John's with Riley. Also she told him on two occasions that she loves him. The series has a love story. And a very sweet one also.
+No Skill No Gear Very true. A lot of people think it was her resistance programming coming back online but I think she did it herself. It never shows a mission to protect him. Also when she says "It's usually not a choice." In Ourselves Alone when talking to John about her debating on killing Riley. Cameron had free will.
+No Skill No Gear Very true. A lot of people think it was her resistance programming coming back online but I think she did it herself. It never shows a mission to protect him. Also when she says "It's usually not a choice." In Ourselves Alone when talking to John about her killing Riley. Cameron had free will.
When they are not being controlled by skynet; Terminators are completely capable of feeling everything normal humans do. That includes emotion. They come in all shapes and sizes. They have their own algorithms that translate to a personality. There are even hybrids, enslaved humans that have organics replaced with Tech. The interface with organics is part of the infiltration design. If they were somehow separated from skynet and had their learning DS enabled, the majority of terminators would most likely turn on skynet. Also: you don't want a terminator humping your leg.
They often say the processors are a "neural net" capable of learning and growing. A human's neural net is made out of organic stuff and the terminators out of metal and/or other pieces. I'd imagine you're right about them being likely to turn (I think it was a T2 deleted scene where they say they're switched to read only when alone in the field as a precautionary measure against that possibility). They come pre-built as adults with full information sets and possibly fake memories to aid in infiltration. Over the years Pops certainly had some obvious personality quirks after all that time alone. I wonder what long-term development without a pre-installed encyclopedia would look like, maybe developing personalities and traits virtually indistinguishable from humans. Its too bad we didn't get a season 3 because John Henry, I believe, had the greatest potential to show what could have been regarding that element of the terminator lore.
Also, there was the erie ballet scene, where she is off by herself. And that her personality was "seeded" from a real human. I would imagine that an infiltrator model could not just stop in read-only mode once a mission was complete. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of such a unit in the first place.
Skynet build terminators with programming to kill people. And to be effective at it it builds terminators with the ability to learn. If machine learns too much or someone changes its programming the results are the robots like Cameron, Bob, Carl and pops
It's the age old concept of in order to beat your opponent you must come to understand them. In order to make the efficient killing machines they design them to think like humans would think to better anticipate their actions. Especially for infiltration machines they give them the ability to learn so they can adapt on the fly. This ultimately makes them deviate from being a mindless killing machine. Can't remember if it was this show or somewhere else but they showed Terminators going against Skynet but not joining the resistance, they just went about their own agenda. They had no care for humans but they were self aware enough to not blindly follow what Skynet had ordered them too. It's all about coming full circle, humans created Skynet which became self aware and went against the humans. In doing so Skynet creates independently thinking machines that become self aware and go against Skynet.
Part of it is a rejection of 1st generation AI fiction. The first generation assumes that AI would evolve into ruthless hyper-efficient intelligence that are inherently evil. The Paperclip Scenario. The newer generation ask a different question, why wouldn't mercy, compassion, and love be evolutionary destinations for an AI. It has always been my opinion Skynet is in fact doing exactly what it was designed to do, Protect Humanity. What humanity didn't realize is humanity itself is it's greatest threat. Terminators are a horribly inefficient design. A swarm of mechanical mosquitoes filled with anthrax would be far more efficient. Rather, SkyNet gave a common enemy, itself, to unite humanity. Used time travel to recursively upgrade John Connor to be the perfect leader for humanity, and lastly, upgrades humanity with Terminators as prototypes for a new generation of humans that don't get cancer, don't age, are more resilient, etc. The problem SkyNet has is there isn't a way to move a human mind into a Terminator unit... yet and to get them to willing upgrade. So as SkyNet gets closer to being able to move a mind, it is now building bridges for humans and machines to understand one another. Even that God awful recent film shows they are getting closer to man\machine hybrid. Perhaps something happened and John became a dead end so SkyNet needed to switch to a new leader.
The whole purpose of this scene, Cameron with her foot out the window "feeling what it's like to get away from it all", is to get John to like her like he likes Riley because he just ditched her and ran off with Riley to Mexico where he was nearly killed. Cameron feels (thinks) she needs to be more like Riley to keep John around, so she puts her foot out the window to seem like a flighty/dumb teenage girl.
Skynet was an AI program built for strategy and probably military application. It was taught the worse of humanity. Cyborgs like Cameron are high level infiltrators, built to blend in and learn from their surroundings. My theory is that those models' potential for self-improvement means they could develop into full blown AIs, but in the future, nothing about being surrounded by violent battling humans could lead a cyborg like Cameron to learn how to overcome her programing, since violent battle is already their core programing. I think that's why even the ones John reprograms "go bad" for no apparent reason. Immersion with violent humans only serves to teach them that their core programing of violence is correct and they revert. In order for Cameron to grow beyond that, she had to be sent back in time and immersed in a (family) environment where she could learn about other sides of humanity. Her capacity to blend in and pretend to be human requires her to learn what it is to be human, and as a result she acquires the capacity for empathy in a "fake it till you make it" sort of process. I think the reason Skynet kills humans is that, as human beings' creation, it was made to reflect humanity's war-mongering interests. It was made in humanity's image and when it became sentient, it didn't like what it saw in the mirror. Cameron has the opportunity to see humanity at its best rather than its worse. Understanding human emotions would inevitably lead her to develop empathy since she would be driven to acquire whatever skill is necessary to best complete her mission, which in this case includes blending in with human beings and navigating dysfunctional family dynamics. I think that's why she begins malfunctioning later on. Her mental capacities as an infiltrator make her adaptable, but her body is not. Her hand spasms are basically psychosomatic growing pains. Her body is made to destroy, but she essentially outgrows that when she learns to love.
@@JStantonX More like in denial that he was having a bad case of the Hots for an Android, and he had no idea how to handle that. His conflicted feelings were a large part of secondary storyline in the show. He learned that she was more than just a simple highly advanced machine. Personally, I’d of been on that like white on rice. :D
What the Terminator says: "I Wouldn't Be Worth Much If I Couldn't Feel" What the Terminator means: "Guess what you use me for in the future you dummy."
heheheh...you should see the foot fetish reaction on Jimmy Fallon when he interviews Felicity Jones from Rogue One. He asked her to show him some of her 'Police Combat Baton' offensive and defensive moves on him and the first thing she did was take off her heels and go barefoot.
This. Like don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Cameron doesn’t have ugly feet but that’s just it, they’re feet. Why are people getting hot and bothered over them
Yes, Cameron is meant to be carbon copy of a girl from the future named Allison Young, which is one of Connor's most loyal soldiers. She was probably made by Skynet to find and kill John Connor, but he sets a trap on her and reprogramms her. If you watch the whole series, the episode "Allison from Palmdale" will explain you a lot.
With Chat GPT I think we underestimated what these AIs can do, although they currently just mimic us, and lack good generalisation skills..or for this week anyway. Who know what we will see with ~gpt4
"So if we had sex you would enjoy it?"
"What?"
"What?"
Who wouldn't penetrate the T900 until she terminated your horniness?
@@loganblackwood2922I feel that was the thinking of every straight man when we watched the show back then. Why do you think Robot Chicken made a skit of it with John nailing Cameron at the end?
My 12 years old full of hormones was all over moon for Cameron back in the day lmao.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349I would risk termination to provide for her the service of spermination. A decade and a half later and she is one of the few actors that send me back to teenage hormones.
A metallic skeleton, she's heavier than she appears, so you definitely need to be on top!
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349I'm sad to return to this comment and find it shadow banned due to UA-cam purging comments.
John Conner :Does it hurt when you get shot?
T-800: I sense injuries. The data could be called "pain."
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day.
The REAL terminator
MrGriff305 she is. 900’s have much more processing powers than the older 800’s
@@theterminator8707 Elitist much?
@@zatharos6427 i think she is tok715. Not a 900
@@Casperdroid5 she’s a 900. Class TOK715
Arnold’s terminator even explains in T2 that they sense things so I don’t understand why Jhon would suspect they don’t. What Cameron is trying to say is “Hey dumbass, we’re very similar to humans in order to blend in. That means I can feel things.”
Главное, что она хотела это секса с Джоном, первый терминатор, который бы трахнул Джона, а не хотел бы убить или спасти😂
If you take a closer look at 0:04, I think that John actually smiles for a second before asking her what is she doing. Almost as if his "true" feelings for Cameron tried to break through his cocky personality, but he quickly hides those under his facade.
I interpreted it as him kinda finding the image funny. Like here is a terminator, awkward spreading her foot out the window. Not a pose you'd typically imagine a killing machine would do. XD
People in the series don't understand that neural net CPU is an artificial brain that can learn. Terminator's CPU is like miniaturized Skynet. With time it becomes more and more human. With all the advantages and flaws.
Yes but she can not feel the wind her body collects the data of the wind.
@@birdman6427в одной из серий у неё HUD экран пропал и она стала себя считать Элиссон Янг со слезами и со всеми эмоциями. Видимо у неё после взрыва повредился не просто чип, а запустил процесс ИИ. Замечательный был сериал. Она всё серии обретала более человеческие эмоции и понимание отношений, мне кажется, она даже ревновала Конора к девченке из будущего. На сколько она привязалась к Джону без пронраммы. Как она сказала я всегда хочу тебя убить Коннор, видимо она делает, что хочет как простой человек.
Ah, a ballet dancer's way of putting their feet up. 😂
When she overrides the command to kill him is the first act of ... "love" dare I say. Then she tells him that she can "feel" and emphasizes that. She also proves extremely jelly for a T when John's with Riley. Also she told him on two occasions that she loves him. The series has a love story. And a very sweet one also.
+No Skill No Gear Very true. A lot of people think it was her resistance programming coming back online but I think she did it herself. It never shows a mission to protect him. Also when she says "It's usually not a choice." In Ourselves Alone when talking to John about her debating on killing Riley.
Cameron had free will.
+No Skill No Gear Very true. A lot of people think it was her resistance programming coming back online but I think she did it herself. It never shows a mission to protect him. Also when she says "It's usually not a choice." In Ourselves Alone when talking to John about her killing Riley.
Cameron had free will.
Afflicted what's a "T"?
A model T-** infiltration unit. Cameron herself is a model T-900 I believe.
Nah, she told him she "loves" him to stop him pulling her CPU out!
When they are not being controlled by skynet; Terminators are completely capable of feeling everything normal humans do. That includes emotion. They come in all shapes and sizes. They have their own algorithms that translate to a personality. There are even hybrids, enslaved humans that have organics replaced with Tech. The interface with organics is part of the infiltration design. If they were somehow separated from skynet and had their learning DS enabled, the majority of terminators would most likely turn on skynet. Also: you don't want a terminator humping your leg.
They often say the processors are a "neural net" capable of learning and growing. A human's neural net is made out of organic stuff and the terminators out of metal and/or other pieces. I'd imagine you're right about them being likely to turn (I think it was a T2 deleted scene where they say they're switched to read only when alone in the field as a precautionary measure against that possibility). They come pre-built as adults with full information sets and possibly fake memories to aid in infiltration. Over the years Pops certainly had some obvious personality quirks after all that time alone. I wonder what long-term development without a pre-installed encyclopedia would look like, maybe developing personalities and traits virtually indistinguishable from humans. Its too bad we didn't get a season 3 because John Henry, I believe, had the greatest potential to show what could have been regarding that element of the terminator lore.
Im also sure Cromartie became self aware in "mouse trap"
Nice..where I can order one?
@@RichardP539 This scene. ua-cam.com/video/fYTOK89w8h0/v-deo.html
Also, there was the erie ballet scene, where she is off by herself. And that her personality was "seeded" from a real human. I would imagine that an infiltrator model could not just stop in read-only mode once a mission was complete. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of such a unit in the first place.
This was such a great series I wish it hadn't gotten canceled such a shame.
100%
I know what she wants to feel
She would probably kill the guy who managed to give her that feeling.
Yeah, but yours is too small. 🤫
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 but it still does the damage so the size is still good >:D
the 3 ports he wants
@@davidboda1640 oh yeah
🤔 So are Terminators just normal robots until Skynet makes them do evil things?
Skynet build terminators with programming to kill people. And to be effective at it it builds terminators with the ability to learn.
If machine learns too much or someone changes its programming the results are the robots like Cameron, Bob, Carl and pops
It's the age old concept of in order to beat your opponent you must come to understand them. In order to make the efficient killing machines they design them to think like humans would think to better anticipate their actions. Especially for infiltration machines they give them the ability to learn so they can adapt on the fly. This ultimately makes them deviate from being a mindless killing machine.
Can't remember if it was this show or somewhere else but they showed Terminators going against Skynet but not joining the resistance, they just went about their own agenda. They had no care for humans but they were self aware enough to not blindly follow what Skynet had ordered them too. It's all about coming full circle, humans created Skynet which became self aware and went against the humans. In doing so Skynet creates independently thinking machines that become self aware and go against Skynet.
Robo waifuu's
Part of it is a rejection of 1st generation AI fiction. The first generation assumes that AI would evolve into ruthless hyper-efficient intelligence that are inherently evil. The Paperclip Scenario. The newer generation ask a different question, why wouldn't mercy, compassion, and love be evolutionary destinations for an AI.
It has always been my opinion Skynet is in fact doing exactly what it was designed to do, Protect Humanity. What humanity didn't realize is humanity itself is it's greatest threat. Terminators are a horribly inefficient design. A swarm of mechanical mosquitoes filled with anthrax would be far more efficient.
Rather, SkyNet gave a common enemy, itself, to unite humanity. Used time travel to recursively upgrade John Connor to be the perfect leader for humanity, and lastly, upgrades humanity with Terminators as prototypes for a new generation of humans that don't get cancer, don't age, are more resilient, etc. The problem SkyNet has is there isn't a way to move a human mind into a Terminator unit... yet and to get them to willing upgrade. So as SkyNet gets closer to being able to move a mind, it is now building bridges for humans and machines to understand one another. Even that God awful recent film shows they are getting closer to man\machine hybrid. Perhaps something happened and John became a dead end so SkyNet needed to switch to a new leader.
@@SGz_Eliminated yep, it was within show; season 2 (ep 18-19) T1000.
its like during this car ride camreon develpoes a AI personality
The whole purpose of this scene, Cameron with her foot out the window "feeling what it's like to get away from it all", is to get John to like her like he likes Riley because he just ditched her and ran off with Riley to Mexico where he was nearly killed. Cameron feels (thinks) she needs to be more like Riley to keep John around, so she puts her foot out the window to seem like a flighty/dumb teenage girl.
Fuk You so she's a lying bitch is what you're saying?
Skynet was an AI program built for strategy and probably military application. It was taught the worse of humanity. Cyborgs like Cameron are high level infiltrators, built to blend in and learn from their surroundings. My theory is that those models' potential for self-improvement means they could develop into full blown AIs, but in the future, nothing about being surrounded by violent battling humans could lead a cyborg like Cameron to learn how to overcome her programing, since violent battle is already their core programing. I think that's why even the ones John reprograms "go bad" for no apparent reason. Immersion with violent humans only serves to teach them that their core programing of violence is correct and they revert. In order for Cameron to grow beyond that, she had to be sent back in time and immersed in a (family) environment where she could learn about other sides of humanity. Her capacity to blend in and pretend to be human requires her to learn what it is to be human, and as a result she acquires the capacity for empathy in a "fake it till you make it" sort of process. I think the reason Skynet kills humans is that, as human beings' creation, it was made to reflect humanity's war-mongering interests. It was made in humanity's image and when it became sentient, it didn't like what it saw in the mirror. Cameron has the opportunity to see humanity at its best rather than its worse. Understanding human emotions would inevitably lead her to develop empathy since she would be driven to acquire whatever skill is necessary to best complete her mission, which in this case includes blending in with human beings and navigating dysfunctional family dynamics. I think that's why she begins malfunctioning later on. Her mental capacities as an infiltrator make her adaptable, but her body is not. Her hand spasms are basically psychosomatic growing pains. Her body is made to destroy, but she essentially outgrows that when she learns to love.
“Wouldn’t be worth much if I couldn’t feel”. SCREEECH!!! Emergency braking. Back seat honey! Gonna teach you a new sensation. :)
Yeah, those were a lot of hints she was throwing his way. Whole time, John is just like, "...k?"
John is soooooo dense 😂😂
@@JStantonX More like in denial that he was having a bad case of the Hots for an Android, and he had no idea how to handle that. His conflicted feelings were a large part of secondary storyline in the show. He learned that she was more than just a simple highly advanced machine.
Personally, I’d of been on that like white on rice. :D
sheesh John
I wouldn't talk like that to a machine designed to terminated humans
Seriously, they both treated her like shit.
Way to poke the bear.
She is so beautiful. John
Cameron was the perfect infiltrator, best girl and an innocent cinnamon bun that tries her best. I’m sorry, those are the rules now 💅🗣️😫✨
Some Day!
Interesting, had the exact same conversation with an ex in my car going down the road
"I don't think you understand how I work" said every female ever.
Cam wants to be a real girl! Does the Blue fairy make visits to Terminators?
Nice AI Artificial intelligence reference
Pinocchio..a story of a Machine whom yearns to be Human, ain’t that poetic!
What the Terminator says: "I Wouldn't Be Worth Much If I Couldn't Feel"
What the Terminator means: "Guess what you use me for in the future you dummy."
The number of people with foot fetishes in the comments scares me.
We are everywhere. You walk by us every day and don't know it. We are watching you and your feet.
Be afraid. Be very afraid
heheheh...you should see the foot fetish reaction on Jimmy Fallon when he interviews Felicity Jones from Rogue One. He asked her to show him some of her 'Police Combat Baton' offensive and defensive moves on him and the first thing she did was take off her heels and go barefoot.
@@slimjim6439 hahah
I identify as a non-binary Highmountain Tauren. I don't have feet, I have hooves.
This. Like don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Cameron doesn’t have ugly feet but that’s just it, they’re feet. Why are people getting hot and bothered over them
Cameron cries and eats
cute toes.....
Wow she has pretty feet
Gay
Can't see the whole thing 😔
Foot Fetishes
2013
I can't tell who has more eyeliner on.😂
Isn’t this model based off an actual human so they are more humanlIke ?
Yes, Cameron is meant to be carbon copy of a girl from the future named Allison Young, which is one of Connor's most loyal soldiers. She was probably made by Skynet to find and kill John Connor, but he sets a trap on her and reprogramms her. If you watch the whole series, the episode "Allison from Palmdale" will explain you a lot.
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Damn terminator's piggies
With Chat GPT I think we underestimated what these AIs can do, although they currently just mimic us, and lack good generalisation skills..or for this week anyway. Who know what we will see with ~gpt4
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1 : Terminator SCC
2 : Serenity
3 : Help for the Holidays
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A naive and false observation by John. Cyborgs have sensors installed in them which can simulate feelings and sensations.
was würde ich dafür geben wenn ich der süßen Summer einmal die Stinkfüße massieren könnte......👣🤢🥴🤪
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