I don't see the problem with skiplagging as a consumer. Why are you charging LESS to go further? The airlines don't like it because they can't sell the seat. This isn't a problem that should get peolple on the "Do not fly" list, this is a system flaw in how the airlines operate and maybe they should go figure things out better. It would likely stop skip lagging AND get more people flying AND more people both spending that money and saving it.
Right! The seat is paid for. Let us tell somebody we won't be on the next leg so they don't wait for us, and maybe they can sell the seat, again, if they gave somebody on standby.
@@aa777flyer Well, yes and no. You can also look at it like going to a restaurant and only eating part of your meal and not taking the rest home for later.
7. I understand everything but this. Not that I think people should do that, no. I think there is something wrong with the system if buying direct flight is more expensive, even once in a lifetime, than buying two flights with a stop.
Yeah...it makes no sense, for example, for a flight from Dallas to Los Angeles to cost more than a flight from Dallas to Seattle, with a stopover in LA.
Remember that Travel Agents still exist and will arrange packages with discounted airfare. For example, if I'm taking a cruise, I might get a flight from LA to Chicago to Miami (where I can catch my cruise ship). The airfare is subsidized by the cruise lines. If I want to go from LA to Chicago, I can buy the whole thing but I have no intention of going to Miami so the cruise line has subsidized my trip to Chicago.
I understand why it would get you on the no fly list. It cuts into airline profits. I don't agree with it, but if they want to charge you more and you find a way around that, they will want to put a stop to people doing that so they can continue to charge more. It's evil, it's greedy, but it's also easy to see the reasoning even if you don't agree.
They should. The company should charge for the distance travelled. They don't. Sometimes it's cheaper to just pay for 2 flights and fly only 1 than for 1 flight.
I once needed to fly from California to Massachusetts to meet my wife and drive back. The one-way ticket was more than twice the round trip cost! So I bought the round trip and just didn’t use the return half. Yeah, they didn’t like it but $600 is $600!
Need to be precise about skiplagging. Certainly the airline can ban you from themselves, but I'd be surprised if it were actually grounds for landing on the federal no fly list.
Fortunately, forbidding skiplagging has been considered an abusive practice in Brazil. If they dare to cancel you're return flight for skiplagging, they can expect to lose a lawsuit.
Airlines shouldn't be allowed to ban people for skiplagging. If a fare structure that makes people want to skiplag isn't more profitable than the alternative for the airline if people actually do skiplag, then it's simply not the fare structure the airline should be using. And if it *is* the most profitable fair structure even when people do skiplag, then the airline should be happy with that and not try to squeeze out every last dollar by penalizing people for taking advantage of it.
About #5: an Asian friend of mine worked as a flight attendant for a European airline. On one of his flights, there was a passenger that didn't behave at all. My friend stayed polite, but at a certain moment, the passenger made a racist remark. My friend told the purser and the passenger was put on the no-fly list. And not only of that airline. I think it was very good that the airline stood up for its crew and made clear that there are limits.
Flight attendant here! An inadvertent slide deployment (ISD) can cost an airline up to $100k to fix, along with several hours of delays. They really, REALLY don’t like ISD’s 😂
@@jimwormmasternot a FA or technical person but flight delays cost money. They have to fix the slide & the plane, check & make sure everything works, all of which take time. Airlines pay a fee to park in airports. The more time they spend there, more fees for the airline (and they may be causing delays for other flights or airlines too). Maybe someone will have a better explanation.
@@kitty_s23456 you got back to the other guy before I could, but that’s basically it!! It’s not just the cost of repairs, but all those other factors. And at the busiest airports, one delay usually causes a chain reaction that creates a hundred delays!
@@jimwormmasterThe slide *has to* work when needed. So after a deployment, it has to be repacked by someone who knows exactly what they're doing, not just any ramp agent (and, in fact, given the size of the slides, probably several someones), then it has to be inspected by someone who knows exactly what they're looking at. So hours of high-paid labor, and meanwhile, the plane can't fly, a new plane has to be found, a whole planeful of passengers may need to be compensated for a delayed/canceled flight, the flight may or may not get off the ground before the crew hits their duty hour limit for the day, after which they can't legally fly (because people tend to get mad if the cause of a crash is "the crew fell asleep because they were up 20 hours"), so a new crew may have to be called in for the flight *and* the original crew still has to be payed for the prep work they did, etc.
@@mitchells2003 and back when it was the back of the plane, they should have closed off everything behind that row so all the smokers could suck in their own second hand smoke. Win-Win!
I can see why the airline would want to punish people for skiplagging, but it sounds like an excellent way for travellers to push back at the airlines for trying to rip us all off, so there's that. Or otherwise hinder us. Say by comparable airline practices like overbooking and then telling passengers with a ticket that the plane is full.
It should be illegal to ban passengers for skiplagging. If it's cheaper to get use a layover as your final destination, that's an obvious problem with the airline, not the passenger. As long as they have no checked bags, it causes no disruption.
I don't agree. That's the airline's prerogative as a business. I hope there's some allowance for those that just make bad layover plans and miss their connection, though
True, just like the prerogative to not install bolts in door plugs or add defective flight systems and not train pilots on them. All prerogative. If skip lagging is a safety and security concern the solution is remove the problem. Don't blame the passengers or pilots.
It's not just airlines in the US that operate this policy. I'm in the UK and a customer was arrested and fined for getting off a train two stops earlier than stated on his ticket. The reason is the train companies charge different rates depending on distance, with some shorter trips being more costly than longer ones. The purp was just unlucky he got caught.
@@tommyl5319 Paying more for the exact same flight is ridiculous and I don't know why you like being screwed over. It costs the company NOTHING to allow you to skiplag. It actually makes it better for customers because these companies like to overbook flights. These airlines will make their money regardless, they won't go broke especially since it's YOUR tax dollars that will go towards the government bail-outs they frequently do. Meanwhile, the CEOs are getting richer and richer. So, why do you hate when consumers get their money's worth but don't complain when airlines kick families off planes when they've overbooked the flight?
@@RikAindowYes, we all know UK is a totalitarian state to the max. This is literally worse than Soviet Union. Arresting people to protect corporate-government interests is literally Fascism as outlined by Mussolini. What if I change my mind and want to leave the train and go back?
Two more: Don't put your feet up the armrest into the other passenger's space. Don't put your hair in your back seat, blocking the other passenger's view of their tv. Anything to add, friends?
Let's be quite clear- if the airline is charging you more for a flight, with a stopover, than a direct flight, then the airline is welcome to suck it. The problem is absolutely not with the passenger, and no amount of whining by the airline is going to change that.
you mean they charge more for a direct flight than one with a stopover, not vice versa. And I have seen it be quite common for the tickets to vary in prices in this case.
But why do airlines car?. They aren't gonna hold the plane for a passenger. They save on fuel, it allows standby customers to use those (now) unoccupied seats. The customer isn't getting a refund.
Yes, exactly. I’m wondering about the website Skiplagged.com or Kiwi.com…both seem legit. I don’t think someone could get banned just because they bought a ticket from these websites that specialize in skip-lagging
@@kotor610 This is a guess, based on an announcement made on a flight I was on recently, but if they don't HAVE any standby passengers waiting for a seat it could cause an issue if they have to rebalance the plane. The flight attendants had to announce that no seat switching was allowed to open seats because the plane was balanced based on where passengers were assigned. So if you are checked in to be on the flight and don't board because you practiced skiplagging, you could cause a delay and that impacts more than just your flight if they can't make the time up in the air to reach the destination airport on time.
I'm not sure of the whole details of skiplegging. But isn't that just the airline being greedy? They are charging more for direct flight because people perfer those, but the ones with layovers costs less due to less demand. Which means both covers their cost but they are going to ban you not because they loss any money when you skipleg but because you used a trick to avoid paying their premium price?
it's not a mistake. They know people want to get to their destination preferably in one go without stopovers and hence make the price higher. It doesn't make sense to us a customers because it's more inconvenient and feel it should cost less for that reason, but I do think that that's why they price it higher, you pay for that convenience of being able to travel in one go. I have seen US domestic flights with two or even three stopovers before their end destination. I would HATE being on such a flight. If I can sit during the stopover, maybe it's ok, but oftentimes they ask you to leave and I would hate to get off three times before my destination. To avoid that, people are more likely to pay extra to avoid the annoyance or stopovers.
@@Fluffy-Fluffy I don’t think you get the definition of skip lagging. It’s when it’s cheaper to book a multi stop flight with the intention of getting off the first stop than to book the flight directly to the first stop.
@@Fluffy-FluffyIf a trip from A to B to C is cheaper than just traveling from A to B (in the exact same manner), then there is a problem. Adding additional plane rides shouldn't make the cost go down. And not using a ticket you bought shouldn't get you in trouble, unless maybe you're asking for a refund. This does seem like a problem caused solely by the airline.
@@lilliematthews7922 Exactly. If you skip flight B, especially if you don't check in for flight B, it gives the airline an opportunity to sell the seat again. I can't see how it's that bad for the airline, unless you have checked luggage, in which case skipping flight B could be a problem.
@@madcow3417 just for that airline. Kinda like if you throw a fit in a grocery store you can be banned from the location or entire chain, but it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting arrested unless you break a law. It’s not the TSA or Homeland Security lists. TSA is if you break air travel laws or are deliberately a nuisance in the airport. Homeland Security is if you are a dangerous or suspected dangerous person.
2:32 - My grandpa was a schoolbus driver for 36 years. He lived in a rural community so he kept his bus at home. He would let us grandkids play on it with one simple rule: no messing with the emergency door. He explained to us basically that God forbid we break the thing and then there's an emergency in someone's hurt because his grandkids played with the door. We never, never touched that door, for that reason.
Back in the day I had a job where we would fly halfway across the US about once a month for a while. Somebody discovered that if you stay in the other place for a couple of weeks, it was cheaper than going for only a week. So they did this thing: -Book a round trip departing home on the 1st and returning the following month on the 7th -Book a second round trip departing the destination on this month's 7th and returning there on next month's 1st. I'm not sure if they ever got busted for it, but I know it worked at least a while! (Worst come to worse, there were two airlines flying to the other city...)
It wasn’t even an available emergency door. That model of plane has a few different choices for the airlines to pick where the emergency exits go. The options the airline didn’t choose get plugged and walled in with a covering panel. Someone didn’t bolt in the plug correctly and it fell out mid flight, sucking the covering panel out with it.
a girl once on the plane in front of me just threw her chair back right up to my knees i hardly had no space to eat or rest i myself would not do that to the person behind me but she acted like she was the only one on the plane the selfishness these days is astounding
I am of the opinion that full reclining your seat should be allowed only at night when everyone can be assumed to be reclining. A few degrees so one can see the screen better, sure, but not anything over, say, 15 degrees unless it's night.
I had a toddler kicking my seat during a whole flight. Don't know why his parents let him. (Fortunately it was a short flight, only about an hour. If it was longer, I would have probably said something to a flight attendant.)
A guy who refused to stop smoking on a plane flying into Heathrow ended up receiving a 9 year jail sentence now is a good time to remind people about Varig flight 820
@@Poliss95 Which is why even though there’s no smoking allowed they still have a spot to put the butts. It’s so IF someone broke the rules they wouldn’t make it worse by starting a fire too.
Very very many good points on there! The last one: the world has gotten crazy... what some people consider an emergency is mind-blowing... And then there is me ...not calling an ambulance when I lie in bed at night. Completely unable to move anything but my arms and crying because of the pain. Balance! I pray for balance. (Btw, it's been a while. I almost lost a disc in my lower back. It's a bit damaged, but it's still there.👍I saw a physio therapist next day.)
I agree with this lady…WTH is with people wanting to open the emergency doors. Maybe have people come to the airport a little earlier and have a mock up plane where folks can open the emergency door without causing a problem. Or pick one of these idiots to open the door at the gate when the stewards tell you to.
And this is why I travel with Amtrak. If these things need to be said that means it happens with a regularity that the chances my travel wont be peaceful being higher than the slower route.
@@mangayakposowa4334 same--never had any of the confrontational ones happen on any flight I was on. These kind of almost guaranteed bans are just there because of a small number of people who screwed around and found out
I've seen news stories of people just opening the emergency exit door while the plane is on the runway because they wanted off RIGHT NOW and they were charged with a few crimes... like can't you just tell the flight attendant if you want off the plane and then wait for them to go back to the gate to let you off? I know it's annoying but nobody's going to let you just wander around the tarmac...
Hey Jennie I head about a unsuccessful plane hijack where the crew members literally threw off the terrorist from the plane so just asking was it you? 😂
I can tell you that based on the news, the US law is a joke! I’m happy the airline companies will ban unruly passengers, but the government does a terrible job on punishing them. They don’t hold people accountable as they should. Jeenie is awesome!
As an adult I should be able to not continue my itinerary after touching down anywhere I am legally allowed to, without penalty or explanation if I so desire. Ridiculous.
You know how it is when the people who own the transportation companies use their monopoly on a certain form of transportation to get themselves more money. Think of the poor billionaires! /s
It's when the airline company marks your name and ID with a side note to never sell you any tickets and to never allow you on their planes even if someone else buys you one. If you show up anyway, then during the boarding checkup when they verify your IDs and luggage, they will find out it's you and the security will not allow you to board the plane. Good luck getting to your destination then
I have considered disturbing the peace while sitting for hours in a hot plane on the tarmac, knowing the combined efforts of the airline and airport are doing little to help me and that I will not be refunded any amount of the vast price for the flight, despite the substantial and physical discomfort they were putting me in. I have wondered how to attach even a slight amount of accountability to the airline comparable to the accountability they would force on me if I got even verbally out of pocket with a fully just complaint delivered in a mildly raised voice, things not formerly imagined by anyone to be threats. But it was never worth it. One can only endure, without recourse.
We literally had a fire start at our lab because instead of smoking in a designated area and disposing of their cigarette properly, they threw it into our dumpster. The dumpster swiftly caught fire and we had to put out before it spread to the lab. Thankfully, it’s been raining a lot this year so the spread would be more from embers than straight burning across.
Many years ago, I booked a flight from Calif. to DC, 4 hour layover in Milwaukee. We all got off the plane, I went to a job interview, returned to the airport in plenty of time to reboard when we were allowed to, and flew on to DC. Yes, it was much cheaper than a nonstop flight - and I got the job. Is this skiplagging?
That would be what you're supposed to do. Unless you're saying that you bought two tickets. Say, Bos-Atlanta-Miami and Atlanta-Nashville-Columbus and you're going to go BOS-Altanta-Nashville. Then you've skiplagged twice and you'll get a double ban.
Skiplagging shouldn't be a thing, because the airlines shouldn't have this terrible system where they price gouge you for booking a direct flight. The solution is to make direct flights cheaper than connecting flights instead of milking passengers for money
Bro, imagine airlines getting mad when you exploit their system, without hacking it, instead of creating a single Rider line for last minute flights.........😂
I had a man sit next to me once, he was literally drunk and kept saying such unethical and uncomfortable things all night, it was an overnight flight. I was so stupid, I should have asked the staff to move him away. He was really a nuisance. He drank so much!
My partner had a problem last year with the guy in front of him reclining his seat as we prepared for take off. I've read that you have to have seat back and tray table up for take off and landing since those are the times you're most likely to encounter an emergency on the plane. The flight attendant told the guy to put his seat up, which he did, and then immediately reclined when the flight attendant left. WTH? My partner used the call button and the flight attendant gave him a lecture on only using it in an emergency (I had never heard that before) even when he explained why he was calling. (The idiot in front of him said, "What do you want me to do?" Uh, dummy, put your seat back up until we're in the air!_
What's even better, is when you go to training to become a flight attendant for the first time, you go over a bunch of airplane crashes and you are told what not to do.
For smokers: The Smoking Plane! It is designed to have the oxygen inside the masks, not in the air, so that a loose spark *outside* of said mask will be inconsequential. No non-smokers allowed; and quite obviously, 21+ only. If a person is travelling with someone who does not smoke and is 21+, then their companion understands that what they are doing is dangerous, and is offered an alternative no smoking flight that arrives at the same destination. Smoking plane seats cost 25% more (or greater) than regular planes would charge, to discourage people from smoking in the first place; all of the seats are a good distance away from the cockpit, and the flight attendant staff is allowed to wear a mask while working onboard this plane. Obviously, smoking while wearing the oxygen mask, or smoking near the mask intentionally, will get you permabanned from the entire flight service; possibly even put on a do-not-fly registry.
Number 6 Hits Way too close to home a bit of victim of that one three separate accounts on 14th of us post traumatic stress disorder after the third time, so yeah I want you to spread no all around to anyone from anyone whether you’re in the area or on the ground, or even on the high seas Disappeared they don’t know. I appreciate that dude and I can get someone on a no-fly list.
Hope you're okay with someone else replying, since it's unlikely the comment get seen by the content creator. She used to work with Emirates Airlines. She has some videos about it specifically.
I can see why some folks may not trust the flight attendants, though - as agents of the airline, they don't necessarily have the best interests of the customers in mind. So it makes sense they act the way they do, and I can see how that would lead to a loss of trust. Regardless, it seems best to always pretend like they have your best interests in mind and comply with their instructions.
I don't see the problem with skiplagging as a consumer. Why are you charging LESS to go further? The airlines don't like it because they can't sell the seat. This isn't a problem that should get peolple on the "Do not fly" list, this is a system flaw in how the airlines operate and maybe they should go figure things out better. It would likely stop skip lagging AND get more people flying AND more people both spending that money and saving it.
Right! The seat is paid for. Let us tell somebody we won't be on the next leg so they don't wait for us, and maybe they can sell the seat, again, if they gave somebody on standby.
Its fraud. No different than going into Macys and swapping price tags.
@@aa777flyerhow is it fraud to skip the 2nd leg of a flight that's already paid for?
@@aa777flyer Well, yes and no. You can also look at it like going to a restaurant and only eating part of your meal and not taking the rest home for later.
It's complete different from switching tags.
7. I understand everything but this. Not that I think people should do that, no. I think there is something wrong with the system if buying direct flight is more expensive, even once in a lifetime, than buying two flights with a stop.
Yeah...it makes no sense, for example, for a flight from Dallas to Los Angeles to cost more than a flight from Dallas to Seattle, with a stopover in LA.
Remember that Travel Agents still exist and will arrange packages with discounted airfare.
For example, if I'm taking a cruise, I might get a flight from LA to Chicago to Miami (where I can catch my cruise ship). The airfare is subsidized by the cruise lines. If I want to go from LA to Chicago, I can buy the whole thing but I have no intention of going to Miami so the cruise line has subsidized my trip to Chicago.
I understand why it would get you on the no fly list. It cuts into airline profits. I don't agree with it, but if they want to charge you more and you find a way around that, they will want to put a stop to people doing that so they can continue to charge more. It's evil, it's greedy, but it's also easy to see the reasoning even if you don't agree.
They should. The company should charge for the distance travelled. They don't. Sometimes it's cheaper to just pay for 2 flights and fly only 1 than for 1 flight.
@@petermerchant4439
Irrelevant. The seat is paid.
I once needed to fly from California to Massachusetts to meet my wife and drive back. The one-way ticket was more than twice the round trip cost! So I bought the round trip and just didn’t use the return half. Yeah, they didn’t like it but $600 is $600!
Did you get no-fly listed?
@@HelloHamburger Nope!
Need to be precise about skiplagging. Certainly the airline can ban you from themselves, but I'd be surprised if it were actually grounds for landing on the federal no fly list.
Fortunately, forbidding skiplagging has been considered an abusive practice in Brazil. If they dare to cancel you're return flight for skiplagging, they can expect to lose a lawsuit.
@@sohopedecoGood!
@@sohopedecoCalling out businesses for scummy practices!
Like, yeah, it's a problem for the business who should've done better organizing
Sadly, we are no longer mature adults with no sense of community nor any people skills.
Shut up
Wasn’t that always the case?
@@marley7659it was. It’s just that the victims were either silent or not believed.
Not everyone is like that. I am mature and I'm only 13.
@@marley7659Q😊QQ1😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Airlines shouldn't be allowed to ban people for skiplagging. If a fare structure that makes people want to skiplag isn't more profitable than the alternative for the airline if people actually do skiplag, then it's simply not the fare structure the airline should be using. And if it *is* the most profitable fair structure even when people do skiplag, then the airline should be happy with that and not try to squeeze out every last dollar by penalizing people for taking advantage of it.
“The only one who can touch the emergency doors are me to throw off rude passengers 😊🙂”. Me:remembering all of the times she did that 💭🤔😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
About #5: an Asian friend of mine worked as a flight attendant for a European airline. On one of his flights, there was a passenger that didn't behave at all. My friend stayed polite, but at a certain moment, the passenger made a racist remark. My friend told the purser and the passenger was put on the no-fly list. And not only of that airline. I think it was very good that the airline stood up for its crew and made clear that there are limits.
Flight attendant here! An inadvertent slide deployment (ISD) can cost an airline up to $100k to fix, along with several hours of delays. They really, REALLY don’t like ISD’s 😂
Why does it cost so much to fix?
@@jimwormmasternot a FA or technical person but flight delays cost money. They have to fix the slide & the plane, check & make sure everything works, all of which take time. Airlines pay a fee to park in airports. The more time they spend there, more fees for the airline (and they may be causing delays for other flights or airlines too). Maybe someone will have a better explanation.
@@kitty_s23456 Ah, I see. So the cost includes things like labor, additional parking fees, potential lost flights...that makes sense.
@@kitty_s23456 you got back to the other guy before I could, but that’s basically it!! It’s not just the cost of repairs, but all those other factors. And at the busiest airports, one delay usually causes a chain reaction that creates a hundred delays!
@@jimwormmasterThe slide *has to* work when needed. So after a deployment, it has to be repacked by someone who knows exactly what they're doing, not just any ramp agent (and, in fact, given the size of the slides, probably several someones), then it has to be inspected by someone who knows exactly what they're looking at. So hours of high-paid labor, and meanwhile, the plane can't fly, a new plane has to be found, a whole planeful of passengers may need to be compensated for a delayed/canceled flight, the flight may or may not get off the ground before the crew hits their duty hour limit for the day, after which they can't legally fly (because people tend to get mad if the cause of a crash is "the crew fell asleep because they were up 20 hours"), so a new crew may have to be called in for the flight *and* the original crew still has to be payed for the prep work they did, etc.
Crying babies ok, screaming toddlers kicking my seat and their parents just chilling, PUT EM ON THE LIST !! lol
I’m glad they went with no smoking on planes. I was on a flight and the smoking section was the row behind me. Awful flight.
The smoking section should be on top of the wings.
@@mitchells2003 and back when it was the back of the plane, they should have closed off everything behind that row so all the smokers could suck in their own second hand smoke. Win-Win!
I was literally sick for a week after a smoker sat right in front of me and smoked the whole 6.5 hour flight
@@nplus1watches35that’s not how smoke works, or air circulation. And the smoking section was usually in front.
I will never smoke. People should not be doing it. I will stay healthy.
I can see why the airline would want to punish people for skiplagging, but it sounds like an excellent way for travellers to push back at the airlines for trying to rip us all off, so there's that. Or otherwise hinder us. Say by comparable airline practices like overbooking and then telling passengers with a ticket that the plane is full.
It should be illegal to ban passengers for skiplagging. If it's cheaper to get use a layover as your final destination, that's an obvious problem with the airline, not the passenger. As long as they have no checked bags, it causes no disruption.
I don't agree. That's the airline's prerogative as a business. I hope there's some allowance for those that just make bad layover plans and miss their connection, though
True, just like the prerogative to not install bolts in door plugs or add defective flight systems and not train pilots on them. All prerogative. If skip lagging is a safety and security concern the solution is remove the problem. Don't blame the passengers or pilots.
It's not just airlines in the US that operate this policy. I'm in the UK and a customer was arrested and fined for getting off a train two stops earlier than stated on his ticket. The reason is the train companies charge different rates depending on distance, with some shorter trips being more costly than longer ones. The purp was just unlucky he got caught.
@@tommyl5319 Paying more for the exact same flight is ridiculous and I don't know why you like being screwed over. It costs the company NOTHING to allow you to skiplag. It actually makes it better for customers because these companies like to overbook flights. These airlines will make their money regardless, they won't go broke especially since it's YOUR tax dollars that will go towards the government bail-outs they frequently do. Meanwhile, the CEOs are getting richer and richer. So, why do you hate when consumers get their money's worth but don't complain when airlines kick families off planes when they've overbooked the flight?
@@RikAindowYes, we all know UK is a totalitarian state to the max. This is literally worse than Soviet Union. Arresting people to protect corporate-government interests is literally Fascism as outlined by Mussolini. What if I change my mind and want to leave the train and go back?
Two more: Don't put your feet up the armrest into the other passenger's space. Don't put your hair in your back seat, blocking the other passenger's view of their tv. Anything to add, friends?
Unfortunately, this will not get you banned.
@TheBusyJane Yup, if the person feels entitled and not comply after complaints from other passengers, is what I mean.
@giancarlof2356 don't put your seat back so far your head is in the passengers behind lap
If someone put their hair into my seat space, I would consider that a perfect opportunity to practice my macrame skills. 😁
@@ScottLuvsRenFaires Or barbering skills! I wonder if they would notice that it's cut out to perfectly fit around the IFE screen? 🤣
Jeenie: ‘Don’t Touch The Emergency Door, They are for emergencies’
Me: (flying for the first time) ‘can I go outside for a look from the wings’
Of course you can ! But it's gonna be a One Way tour :)
Why did all the aircraft I have been on NOT have 'Emergency Exit", instead it said "JUMP DOOR"?
@@SkyPhynxYT "If you touch the door and it's not an emergency, I'll give you an emergency"
Let's be quite clear- if the airline is charging you more for a flight, with a stopover, than a direct flight, then the airline is welcome to suck it. The problem is absolutely not with the passenger, and no amount of whining by the airline is going to change that.
you mean they charge more for a direct flight than one with a stopover, not vice versa. And I have seen it be quite common for the tickets to vary in prices in this case.
But why do airlines car?. They aren't gonna hold the plane for a passenger. They save on fuel, it allows standby customers to use those (now) unoccupied seats. The customer isn't getting a refund.
Yes, exactly. I’m wondering about the website Skiplagged.com or Kiwi.com…both seem legit. I don’t think someone could get banned just because they bought a ticket from these websites that specialize in skip-lagging
@@kotor610 This is a guess, based on an announcement made on a flight I was on recently, but if they don't HAVE any standby passengers waiting for a seat it could cause an issue if they have to rebalance the plane. The flight attendants had to announce that no seat switching was allowed to open seats because the plane was balanced based on where passengers were assigned.
So if you are checked in to be on the flight and don't board because you practiced skiplagging, you could cause a delay and that impacts more than just your flight if they can't make the time up in the air to reach the destination airport on time.
you could pretend to be late
I don’t see the problem with skip lagging.
They lose money
The problem is you can get in trouble
@@Walkingtomato1267
Possibly. But they also have a chance to sell a ticket again if the person doesn't check in for one leg of the trip.
@@reginabillotti ok
@@M_SC
Not really. They can get sued and should.
I'm not sure of the whole details of skiplegging. But isn't that just the airline being greedy? They are charging more for direct flight because people perfer those, but the ones with layovers costs less due to less demand. Which means both covers their cost but they are going to ban you not because they loss any money when you skipleg but because you used a trick to avoid paying their premium price?
In regards to skiplagging, Why should I be banned for the airlines mistake on pricing?
it's not a mistake. They know people want to get to their destination preferably in one go without stopovers and hence make the price higher. It doesn't make sense to us a customers because it's more inconvenient and feel it should cost less for that reason, but I do think that that's why they price it higher, you pay for that convenience of being able to travel in one go. I have seen US domestic flights with two or even three stopovers before their end destination. I would HATE being on such a flight. If I can sit during the stopover, maybe it's ok, but oftentimes they ask you to leave and I would hate to get off three times before my destination. To avoid that, people are more likely to pay extra to avoid the annoyance or stopovers.
@@Fluffy-Fluffy I don’t think you get the definition of skip lagging. It’s when it’s cheaper to book a multi stop flight with the intention of getting off the first stop than to book the flight directly to the first stop.
@@Fluffy-FluffyIf a trip from A to B to C is cheaper than just traveling from A to B (in the exact same manner), then there is a problem. Adding additional plane rides shouldn't make the cost go down. And not using a ticket you bought shouldn't get you in trouble, unless maybe you're asking for a refund. This does seem like a problem caused solely by the airline.
@@lilliematthews7922
Exactly. If you skip flight B, especially if you don't check in for flight B, it gives the airline an opportunity to sell the seat again. I can't see how it's that bad for the airline, unless you have checked luggage, in which case skipping flight B could be a problem.
Lol, not a pricing mistake. It's a person's willful decision to violate the airline's terms
Skiplagging will get you on the no fly list?!? WTF!
Someone else indicated that in this particular instance she may be talking about a given airline's list, as opposed to the federal list.
@@tejaswoman Thanks for the info, that is less infuriating.
@@madcow3417 just for that airline. Kinda like if you throw a fit in a grocery store you can be banned from the location or entire chain, but it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting arrested unless you break a law. It’s not the TSA or Homeland Security lists. TSA is if you break air travel laws or are deliberately a nuisance in the airport. Homeland Security is if you are a dangerous or suspected dangerous person.
Yeah that’s BS, the other reasons make sense that one is just pure greed on the part of the airlines
I have never done it but I don't understand why skiplagging is a no no. 🤷✈️
2:32 - My grandpa was a schoolbus driver for 36 years. He lived in a rural community so he kept his bus at home. He would let us grandkids play on it with one simple rule: no messing with the emergency door. He explained to us basically that God forbid we break the thing and then there's an emergency in someone's hurt because his grandkids played with the door. We never, never touched that door, for that reason.
Jeenie can make the serious things funny and interesting but also informational🤣❤
What do airlines do about Boeing not properly tightening the screws so emergency door stay closed properly.
That was a non-door. AKA a PLUG that was never supposed to be opened from inside.
#7 why would that be not allowed? That just because it saves money for the person and not the company?
Back in the day I had a job where we would fly halfway across the US about once a month for a while. Somebody discovered that if you stay in the other place for a couple of weeks, it was cheaper than going for only a week.
So they did this thing:
-Book a round trip departing home on the 1st and returning the following month on the 7th
-Book a second round trip departing the destination on this month's 7th and returning there on next month's 1st.
I'm not sure if they ever got busted for it, but I know it worked at least a while!
(Worst come to worse, there were two airlines flying to the other city...)
2:40 on the Alaska flight no one touched the emergency door. It just came off by itself.
It wasn’t even an available emergency door. That model of plane has a few different choices for the airlines to pick where the emergency exits go. The options the airline didn’t choose get plugged and walled in with a covering panel. Someone didn’t bolt in the plug correctly and it fell out mid flight, sucking the covering panel out with it.
a girl once on the plane in front of me just threw her chair back right up to my knees i hardly had no space to eat or rest i myself would not do that to the person behind me but she acted like she was the only one on the plane the selfishness these days is astounding
I am of the opinion that full reclining your seat should be allowed only at night when everyone can be assumed to be reclining.
A few degrees so one can see the screen better, sure, but not anything over, say, 15 degrees unless it's night.
I had a toddler kicking my seat during a whole flight. Don't know why his parents let him. (Fortunately it was a short flight, only about an hour. If it was longer, I would have probably said something to a flight attendant.)
@@nancyhasten-sn8lmI don't recline back even at night.
It's like she didn't even acknowledge you as a person back there.
That's practically using you as a seat.
Lmao I wouldn't even let them pull that. I keep my knees against the seat to sleep.
“skip lagging” I didn’t know about this, now I do, thx Ms Jennie 😄👍
A guy who refused to stop smoking on a plane flying into Heathrow ended up receiving a 9 year jail sentence
now is a good time to remind people about Varig flight 820
Sounds like he should have brought some nicorette!
@miscbits6399 The jail sentence wasn't for the smoking. It was for setting the plane on fire with the discarded butt.
@@Poliss95 Which is why even though there’s no smoking allowed they still have a spot to put the butts. It’s so IF someone broke the rules they wouldn’t make it worse by starting a fire too.
Mile high club activity not included.... Alrighty!
I think that might be considered public indecency, since it's such a small space.
Very very many good points on there!
The last one: the world has gotten crazy... what some people consider an emergency is mind-blowing...
And then there is me ...not calling an ambulance when I lie in bed at night. Completely unable to move anything but my arms and crying because of the pain. Balance! I pray for balance.
(Btw, it's been a while. I almost lost a disc in my lower back. It's a bit damaged, but it's still there.👍I saw a physio therapist next day.)
I agree with this lady…WTH is with people wanting to open the emergency doors. Maybe have people come to the airport a little earlier and have a mock up plane where folks can open the emergency door without causing a problem. Or pick one of these idiots to open the door at the gate when the stewards tell you to.
And this is why I travel with Amtrak. If these things need to be said that means it happens with a regularity that the chances my travel wont be peaceful being higher than the slower route.
Skip lagging ruins your trip somehow? Probably the most frequent one
@@NoThankUBeQuiet I have never been on an amtrak train where any of this was a thing. I dont travel far enough for skiplagging is possible.
I’ve never seen or experienced any of this. It’s important to talk about because they have happened but they’re not common
@@mangayakposowa4334 same--never had any of the confrontational ones happen on any flight I was on. These kind of almost guaranteed bans are just there because of a small number of people who screwed around and found out
Sit down . This is not the WWE! A good one Jeenie
I've seen news stories of people just opening the emergency exit door while the plane is on the runway because they wanted off RIGHT NOW and they were charged with a few crimes... like can't you just tell the flight attendant if you want off the plane and then wait for them to go back to the gate to let you off? I know it's annoying but nobody's going to let you just wander around the tarmac...
Hey Jennie I head about a unsuccessful plane hijack where the crew members literally threw off the terrorist from the plane so just asking was it you? 😂
If airlines don’t want people skipleging, they should fix their tariff system asap.
Don't touch the emergency doors. If you're on a Boeing plane they'll probably pop open on their own anyway.
I can tell you that based on the news, the US law is a joke! I’m happy the airline companies will ban unruly passengers, but the government does a terrible job on punishing them. They don’t hold people accountable as they should.
Jeenie is awesome!
So does that put Boeing on the no-fly list then -for opening doors mid-flight?!
"To throw off the rude passengers, okay?" 😂😂 savage
0:08 💀
As an adult I should be able to not continue my itinerary after touching down anywhere I am legally allowed to, without penalty or explanation if I so desire. Ridiculous.
You know how it is when the people who own the transportation companies use their monopoly on a certain form of transportation to get themselves more money. Think of the poor billionaires! /s
But skiplagging is airline's fault
Airlines charging less for stop over and more for actual deboarding should be illegal.
what’s a No Fly list? is it like permanently that you cant fly?
It's when the airline company marks your name and ID with a side note to never sell you any tickets and to never allow you on their planes even if someone else buys you one. If you show up anyway, then during the boarding checkup when they verify your IDs and luggage, they will find out it's you and the security will not allow you to board the plane. Good luck getting to your destination then
@@sillyjellyfish2421or home
@@sillyjellyfish2421you can take a boat
@@denco37no boat list
And what part of **NO* you don't understand...⁉️⁉️🤦🤦
If you do throw a rude passenger out the emergency door, please be sure to drop the Silent Bob deadpan line of "no ticket".
When an emergency door should be opened: When there is an emergency and people need to get out of the plane as soon as possible
0:38 if the American Airlines staff tell you to evacuate
I have considered disturbing the peace while sitting for hours in a hot plane on the tarmac, knowing the combined efforts of the airline and airport are doing little to help me and that I will not be refunded any amount of the vast price for the flight, despite the substantial and physical discomfort they were putting me in. I have wondered how to attach even a slight amount of accountability to the airline comparable to the accountability they would force on me if I got even verbally out of pocket with a fully just complaint delivered in a mildly raised voice, things not formerly imagined by anyone to be threats. But it was never worth it. One can only endure, without recourse.
We literally had a fire start at our lab because instead of smoking in a designated area and disposing of their cigarette properly, they threw it into our dumpster. The dumpster swiftly caught fire and we had to put out before it spread to the lab. Thankfully, it’s been raining a lot this year so the spread would be more from embers than straight burning across.
I understand not smoking on a plane, but don't judge smokers
Hiiii I love your videos
Many years ago, I booked a flight from Calif. to DC, 4 hour layover in Milwaukee. We all got off the plane, I went to a job interview, returned to the airport in plenty of time to reboard when we were allowed to, and flew on to DC. Yes, it was much cheaper than a nonstop flight - and I got the job. Is this skiplagging?
No, cause you actually flew on the flight.
What if we get off at the stopover for a connecting flight because our final destination is elsewhere?
That’s not skip lagging. Skip lagging is when you skip the final leg of the flight, entirely
That would be what you're supposed to do. Unless you're saying that you bought two tickets. Say, Bos-Atlanta-Miami and Atlanta-Nashville-Columbus and you're going to go BOS-Altanta-Nashville. Then you've skiplagged twice and you'll get a double ban.
The sarcastic tone throughout this 😂
I have a question why do the windows need to be opened during landing and take off?
I love your videos! I hope everyone has a great day😁💖🍪
1:54 - 1:59 I Can Agree with that!
Skiplagging shouldn't be a thing, because the airlines shouldn't have this terrible system where they price gouge you for booking a direct flight. The solution is to make direct flights cheaper than connecting flights instead of milking passengers for money
Josh Cahill: 👁️ 👄 👁️
the fact i got a video called “AIRLINE WEIGHS PASSENGERS Before Flying. Too Heavy for the Plane?”
Been binge watching Jeenie’s videos to prepare for my first time flying by myself in a few weeks
Bro, imagine airlines getting mad when you exploit their system, without hacking it, instead of creating a single Rider line for last minute flights.........😂
Omg once at the airport at 5:30am people where smocking and drinking
If all flight attendants were like Jeenie, flying really would be a pleasure.
I've never been on a plane before 😢
I didnt realize Jeenie has over 10 million subscribers already. Congrats!
I had a man sit next to me once, he was literally drunk and kept saying such unethical and uncomfortable things all night, it was an overnight flight.
I was so stupid, I should have asked the staff to move him away. He was really a nuisance. He drank so much!
My partner had a problem last year with the guy in front of him reclining his seat as we prepared for take off. I've read that you have to have seat back and tray table up for take off and landing since those are the times you're most likely to encounter an emergency on the plane. The flight attendant told the guy to put his seat up, which he did, and then immediately reclined when the flight attendant left. WTH? My partner used the call button and the flight attendant gave him a lecture on only using it in an emergency (I had never heard that before) even when he explained why he was calling. (The idiot in front of him said, "What do you want me to do?" Uh, dummy, put your seat back up until we're in the air!_
There's no reason to get banned for skiplagging other than company greet.
OMG they couldn’t have chosen a better representative to get the message across! She’s bright articulate and FUNNY as hell!
0:53 okay but now I wanna see Jeenie in WWE! Money in the Bank and Heatwave are this weekend :3
The sad thing about flight attendants is i heard the are not paid unless the plane is in the air. Hope im wrong
Pay begins when they close that door and ends when they open it. That is true.
very helpful
Actually can’t believe people go up in the plane almost every day for a job 😭 I was so scared when I was on the plane lol
I hope norri is good!!❤❤
What's even better, is when you go to training to become a flight attendant for the first time, you go over a bunch of airplane crashes and you are told what not to do.
Also I generally sleep through even crying babies...its the kicking toddlers that really gets me
For smokers: The Smoking Plane!
It is designed to have the oxygen inside the masks, not in the air, so that a loose spark *outside* of said mask will be inconsequential.
No non-smokers allowed; and quite obviously, 21+ only. If a person is travelling with someone who does not smoke and is 21+, then their companion understands that what they are doing is dangerous, and is offered an alternative no smoking flight that arrives at the same destination.
Smoking plane seats cost 25% more (or greater) than regular planes would charge, to discourage people from smoking in the first place; all of the seats are a good distance away from the cockpit, and the flight attendant staff is allowed to wear a mask while working onboard this plane.
Obviously, smoking while wearing the oxygen mask, or smoking near the mask intentionally, will get you permabanned from the entire flight service; possibly even put on a do-not-fly registry.
Literally funny and helpful ❤😂
Number 6 Hits Way too close to home a bit of victim of that one three separate accounts on 14th of us post traumatic stress disorder after the third time, so yeah I want you to spread no all around to anyone from anyone whether you’re in the area or on the ground, or even on the high seas Disappeared they don’t know. I appreciate that dude and I can get someone on a no-fly list.
People gotta stop listening to their intrusive thoughts when they sit by the emergency exits…
*Lots of love from Pakistan 🇵🇰😘💕*
Which airline did you used to work with?
Hope you're okay with someone else replying, since it's unlikely the comment get seen by the content creator. She used to work with Emirates Airlines. She has some videos about it specifically.
As a frequent traveler, I say, "Always listen to Jeennie! She knows about which she speaks. Trust her, or no more flying for you!"
Jennie videos help me understand things so I know what to do and what not to do on a plane.❤❤
that first one can get you banned even for just joking about it or saying specific words about it. Bc dumb "prank" youtubers have been
Wait, I don't understand why skiplagging is bad???
1:01: What, by playing a children's card game?
What if I refuse to allow a flight attendant to put 3 kg of Herron in my bag and get and in a fight with said flight attendant?
Are we talking about live herons or meat? 😉
What about sneaking on to the plane?
She's joking but you see that she's so professional about this at the same time
I can see why some folks may not trust the flight attendants, though - as agents of the airline, they don't necessarily have the best interests of the customers in mind. So it makes sense they act the way they do, and I can see how that would lead to a loss of trust. Regardless, it seems best to always pretend like they have your best interests in mind and comply with their instructions.
Last one was personal to jeenie
Me: flying tommorow
I think that the skiplagging is stupid. They got paid for the seat so who cares.
Plus they can resell the second seat to a passenger on standby or who needs to book a flight last minute.
Didn't know what skiplagging was....but now that i do, how about just charge a fair price in the first place? Problem solved.
But officer, I HAD to open the emergency door! I needed a smoke!
I think that actually happened once.
Reason 10. Being named Jack can cause no end of trouble if people say Hi Jack.
Still love those Jump Wings Jeenie!
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