There should be a snake coming out of the lamb's skull. The sprites for this animation are in the 'resources' folder. However, I found that they are actually not included in the animation file for dogma angel. Not sure why. Also, if you ask me why the run took so long, I don't know either :|
From the wiki, it looks like it is because there are three versions of each, or they might briefly animate, like the troll skull at the start of the video. It might be that they only animate occasionally, or the pause might be preventing it
@Snacker6 that's true for Isaac's head, the troll face and the fly. But the snake coming out of the skull is not animated. Maybe you want to check out the file '950.002_dogma angel.anm2'
Think the reason those files arent apart of the actual dogma animation is because the animation is probably the glitched 'particles', then those 4 states are just thrown ontop when ever they are suppose to occur. Not directly linked to the animation. Probably easier to do it this way in order to introduce those random animations.
I can’t believe trollge is canon to isaac’s lore Also it’s impressive that the game is old enough to be present on the time when trollface was relevant and when trollge become a meme
@@TheRealBatabii yes trollge Trollge is a new variation of the trollface meme. Trollge is now pretty creepy, Now it manipulates the physics of normal world (Flies in the air when covered in oil or blood), Trolls people by killing them, cutting off their body parts, committing massive genocide etc.
how be good Isaac player step 1: Play binding of Isaac step 2: Get to dogma fight step 3: your computer start flicking.... **step 4: you begin hear whispers and voices and see dogma** $TEP 5 : JOIN HIM JOIN HIM JOIN HIM **JOIN HIM** May 20 2025 "The Binding of Trollge Incident"
I like to imagine the demonic Troll face was a three-for-one reference, one for various Troll faces throughout the game (e.g. Troll bombs, Chaos), one for the Trollge meme, and one for Satan in regards to the theory that every glitched form represents a boss. Edit: To elaborate on the above theory, the theory is that every glitched form represents a boss from the original final paths, with Isaac's head representing Isaac, the fly representing ???, the goat/sheep skull with the snake is The Lamb, and the demonic troll face representing Satan as mentioned above.
The fact that these images have no clear correlation with each other at first makes them even more terrific when you can only see them for half a second, you can't even comprehend what where they, you can only see a weird mesh of images and static...
Kinda crazy that Isaac came out when trollface was popular and now the final major expansion comes out when trollface is getting a resurgence. We've gone full circle.
additionally, the lamb skull is (supposed to?) have an animation where a snake comes out of the eye. the snake is probably a reference to the snake that made eve eat the apple
Something I think you DIDN'T notice, though, is that the frames have variations, three in total for each: -The Isaac head has a tear streak on the right side of it's face that gets longer or shorter. -The fly spreads it's wings. -The demon Troll-Face opens it's mouth wider and wider. -The Lamb Skull has two frames where a snake is poking out of it's left eye-socket. That, though, is really all there is to these...
One thing I love about this is how subtle it is, about how all the "angelic" elements of the game may not be as benevolent as you may first think. Also it's the biggest foreshadowing of the coming fight with the beast.
@@jamonqueso2.052 it also can refer to the fact that flies are by far like, the single most abundant enemy in the whole game. There's so many fly variants.
these are also briefly animated as well, though it's not shown here (aside from the demon troll face) due to pause i assume. they each have 3 frames: the lamb head has a snake come out of its eye, which turns to face the camera the mosquito opens its wings the isaac head cries and the demon troll face lowers its jaw.
Well he's killing himself right now as he enters a lovecraftian hell. At this point Isaac is the true trollge, like "How to fix things at home" "Step one - Grab a knife" "Step two - Find and kill Satan" "..." "Step two - Find and kill Satan" " *Step three - Realise that you're Satan* " " *Step four - Accept your fate* " " *Step five - Take out some super glue, the knife and all your filthy memories of your human life* " " *Step six - Jump in the chest. Glue yourself airless, hopeless* " " *DROWNDROWNDROWNDROWN* "
@@muchotexto4248 step seven: Realize you never did anything wrong and your mother was an absolute monster. Kill a twisted memory of her. Ascend to heaven at last. Step eight: peace.
Nah it's blue baby, each of the images corresponds to a boss. Isaacs head is Isaac, Trollface is Satan, Lamb skull is The Lamb, and the fly is Blue Baby
@@WobbleW0k blue baby is a dead child that shits himself, that could explain the flies as for the satan trollge, its less clear, but it goes mostly because of the horns
So Isaac's own reflection in the tv screen, a fly, maybe on the screen or as a representation of Beelzebub, the trollface with demon horns is probably some image from the christian broadcast since they love to fearmonger demons, even showing them, and the lamb might be an image of jesus as Isaac's imagination perceves it.
@@babaskarma1981 That could be too, but remember Im from latin america, a place that they fear higher and lower beings, this same preachings I have heard over and over
i want to thank you for all the time you spent for us to give us info that most of us dont need and being a time consumer because damn lockdown sucks time is slower than normal to those people who have nothing to do.
just noticed that the same day this was uploaded on another video, tho I didn't get to see isaac's head, the lamb skull or the fly, just the horned troll face
probably the four original Rebirth bosses -Isaac -that one fly that catches your guard off -That one trollbomb that also catches your guard off -The lamb
I think those sprites correspond to the four harbingers. While the fly definitely impersonates Pestilence, the lamb's skull is most likely Death, the trollface is probably War and Isaac's head could be Famine.
The Lamb skull could be Satan, The Lamb boss Troll face or Trollege with horns could be Loki, Lil horn, Big horn, The Beast or as a Joke The Fly could be a reference to the Why birth Why Fly, the Flies locusts and anything fly related
I don't know if it's been covered yet, but I noticed a weird "synergy" in a run I had the other day. If you have continuum and tractor beam, when the tears go off the screen they don't wrap to the other side. They wrap as if Isaac himself was the other side. It makes it very easy to layer tears in front of you if you're close to the edge of the screen.
I have had that several times but it's just because the tears HAVE to stay inside the beam, even going as far as to skip from the opposite side of the screen directly to Isaac, if I remember it can break using items like lachryphagy
I remember seeing the trollface one ingame. It was after i beat dogma a fair amount of times, so i absolutely did not expect to see it there, and got really confused, before ruling it off as me being insane for thinking i saw a trollface for a super short amount of time, before discovering it as an actual feature of dogma.
Anyone noticed that these forms kinda represent some bosses (Troll face with horns can represent bosses like Satan, fallen, dark one, bighorn, little horn etc., a fly can represent bosses like duke of flies, Isaac represents Isaac boss and Lambs skull represents the lamb).
Seeing a realistic fly and skull in Isaac is honestly really REALLY jarring and I feel like I've stumbled upon forbidden knowledge by watching this video
I think this might represent the other routes in the game, isaac's head being the Isaac or ??? bossfights, the lamb skull being The Lamb in the Dark Room, the fly, representing Mother (and maybe the corpse levels) and the troll maybe being mega satan because thats whats left, but I think its just when you get killed
I remember when i saw the trollface flicker for the first time and thought it was a mod i had installed so i had to look it up to make sure i wasnt going insane
It seems like each icon is referring to the 2 bosses you fight based on which path you take. The bosses in cathedral and chest would be Isaac for Isaac and the fly for Blue baby/???. For Sheol and Dark room it would be the trollface for satan and the lamb head for the lamb. As to what specific metaphor I'm not sure but it could be an example of how this boss is supposed to be all encompassing, to tie in most if not all endings.
There should be a snake coming out of the lamb's skull.
The sprites for this animation are in the 'resources' folder.
However, I found that they are actually not included in the animation file for dogma angel.
Not sure why.
Also, if you ask me why the run took so long, I don't know either :|
From the wiki, it looks like it is because there are three versions of each, or they might briefly animate, like the troll skull at the start of the video. It might be that they only animate occasionally, or the pause might be preventing it
Maybe Dogma Shows 4 classical endgame bosses?
Isaac - isaac
Fly - ???
Trollface - satan
Skull - lamb
@Snacker6 that's true for Isaac's head, the troll face and the fly.
But the snake coming out of the skull is not animated.
Maybe you want to check out the file '950.002_dogma angel.anm2'
Think the reason those files arent apart of the actual dogma animation is because the animation is probably the glitched 'particles', then those 4 states are just thrown ontop when ever they are suppose to occur. Not directly linked to the animation. Probably easier to do it this way in order to introduce those random animations.
@@dkeeper66 fly is probably blue baby by that logic, he is dead and has flies for attacks
Also important info about this:
Dogma only starts to flicker when low on HP
Thank you for clarifying. I was confused as to when dogma+ starts to flicker
Genuinely the scariest part of the fight
dogma dick hahahaha get owned
@@mariannazebro1022 joe nuts
Get rekt
@@henrybusse7513 the scariest part is when someone hits you with the “dogma balls”
That's not a fly.
Everyone knows flies are just black circles with wings.
Thats actualy a Diptera.
@@ZaxTheAl1en no thats a fly
Diptera is the scientific name for flies
@@clintonbehrends4659 no it's a fly
@@ZaxTheAl1en i bet you feel pretty silly right about now
I literally jump when I see troll face with horn in the first time I fight Dogma
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL
get trolled :tf:
Fear the thought of a giant bomb that chases you.
Hes trollge:CONFIRMED
Glad I wasn't the only one
I can’t believe trollge is canon to isaac’s lore
Also it’s impressive that the game is old enough to be present on the time when trollface was relevant and when trollge become a meme
really? it doesnt seem that suprising to me *:>*
the fact that trollge/trollface STILL manages to be relevant in isaac is baffling. not many classic memes hold itself up like that
can you explain the cannon lore of trollge in Isaac? did a quick google search, but got nothing :/
Theres also pills here and are you a wizard referenced in the game. Albeit the former only existed in the original.
It's not a fucking trollface
The trollge has ascended beyond a mere physical form and has become something much more powerful and destructive, an idea.
And ideas, are bulletproof
@@TheRealBatabii lurk more
@@TheRealBatabii yes trollge
Trollge is a new variation of the trollface meme.
Trollge is now pretty creepy,
Now it manipulates the physics of normal world (Flies in the air when covered in oil or blood), Trolls people by killing them, cutting off their body parts, committing massive genocide etc.
31st March 2021
The Dogma incidente
you paused dogma into dabbing, sick bro.
It isn't 2016 anymore.
@@normalhuman1805 doesnt feel like it
dabma
@@creeator4571 wait, if dogma backwards is am god, does that mean dabma is am bad?
@@RealStatis yes.
dogma 🔃 amgod - am god
damba 🔃 ambad - am bad
dabma = bad confirmed
epic
Isaac's head Dogma is kinda terryfiyng
Copper sword are you!??? :o
@@Manux55 No, It's Copper Shortsword
Yeah I don't like it
And the troll face isnt??? Lmao
@@sirbluerose5205 the troll face also is. But for me troll face i less creepy
Respect for this man he stood 4 hours just for a 1 min video
in the damocles ones he spent hours running for 5 seconds of video multiple times
+2 hour for editing
@@panickedgrub5624 indeed
I think he sped up the game
I like how Edmund is still referencing trollface
who isn't?
Cover youself in ipecac
Ipecac explode when touch an enemy
Go hug an enemy
Forget you dont have piromaniac
I can’t believe there’s a “troll face incidents” face in Isaac
June 21 2069 'The Isaac Incident'
"The Dogma incident"
Envy was there from the start
2021 Crying Baby Incident
how be good Isaac player
step 1: Play binding of Isaac
step 2: Get to dogma fight
step 3: your computer start flicking....
**step 4: you begin hear whispers and voices and see dogma**
$TEP 5 : JOIN HIM JOIN HIM JOIN HIM **JOIN HIM**
May 20 2025 "The Binding of Trollge Incident"
dogma is the most annoying fly, the most evil being, a twisted image of issac's self, but most of all.. *the ruler of everything*
Do you like how I dance?
@@luchiirodriguez279 I got zirconium pants
but most of all, he’s a goofy goober
@@somerandomhuman6126 I love that
@@theundeadpancake9869 mate I agree but we needed a all caps YEEAH
The fly was unexpected
The fly is a somewhat iconic enemy in Isaac.
so was the trollface
beelzebub?
It's a reference to blue baby, one of the 4 main path bosses. The others being Isaac, lamb and satan
@@FranXiT Huh, why tf didn't I think these may be references to those four. Kinda makes sense how Satan is the one with the unsettling demon look
We do a little bit of blasphemy against the Holy spirit
You know that this is the only unforgivable sin, right?
It means completely rejecting the Lord's grace and rebelling against Him
Is that one of the lines you hear when fighting dogma?
@@shubhamghoshal2939 yea
@@opshredderytp thats a line you hear during the dogma fight were not doing a little bit of blasphemy against the holy spirit
All the forms correspond to bosses. Isaac's head - Isaac, horned troll face - Satan, lamb skull - The Lamb and the fly - ???
fly is the ??? in his theory which is absolutely correct
Satan can do a little trolling
@@purplebruh947 yes, the real name of blue baby is "???"
FLY IS BABY PLUMB
@@angrybojan i thought he meant he doesn't know, i forgot it
I like to imagine the demonic Troll face was a three-for-one reference, one for various Troll faces throughout the game (e.g. Troll bombs, Chaos), one for the Trollge meme, and one for Satan in regards to the theory that every glitched form represents a boss.
Edit: To elaborate on the above theory, the theory is that every glitched form represents a boss from the original final paths, with Isaac's head representing Isaac, the fly representing ???, the goat/sheep skull with the snake is The Lamb, and the demonic troll face representing Satan as mentioned above.
Satan: We do a little trolling.
which bosses would they be?
@@anneprocter Isaacs Head and the Lamb Skull should be fairly obvious and then the fly could be Blue Baby and the horned troll face could be satan
@@anneprocter Isaac's face = Isaac, Lamb skull = The Lamb, Troll Face w/ horns = Satan, and Fly = ??? perhaps?
@@100organicfreshmemes5 Seems like it, that covers all four bosses found in the Light path (cathedral, chest) and Dark path (Sheol, Dark room).
The fact that these images have no clear correlation with each other at first makes them even more terrific when you can only see them for half a second, you can't even comprehend what where they, you can only see a weird mesh of images and static...
Besides how unsettlingly realistic the fly sprite is, I want to know WHY FLY.
Because of Beelzebub, the Lord of the Flies.
@@MysteriousStrangerVA I think it's because of ??? (Blue Baby)
One of the most used type of enemies, Beelzebub the Lord of the flies and one of hell's princes and also lotsa poop
**whybirth intensifies**
Isaac being a fly on the wall listing to he’s parents argue
That boss is the most terrifying thing in isaac, the artists went hard in the paint.
Kinda crazy that Isaac came out when trollface was popular and now the final major expansion comes out when trollface is getting a resurgence. We've gone full circle.
additionally, the lamb skull is (supposed to?) have an animation where a snake comes out of the eye. the snake is probably a reference to the snake that made eve eat the apple
If they're not animating when they should be, then that's probably because they're being paused by the active item.
yes. however, this animation will not appear in the game.
THE ORIGINAL SIN. WHY IT ALL STARTED.
Something I think you DIDN'T notice, though, is that the frames have variations, three in total for each:
-The Isaac head has a tear streak on the right side of it's face that gets longer or shorter.
-The fly spreads it's wings.
-The demon Troll-Face opens it's mouth wider and wider.
-The Lamb Skull has two frames where a snake is poking out of it's left eye-socket.
That, though, is really all there is to these...
One thing I love about this is how subtle it is, about how all the "angelic" elements of the game may not be as benevolent as you may first think.
Also it's the biggest foreshadowing of the coming fight with the beast.
Holy shit i thought i was insane for seeing these frames
Dogma: Terryfying christian tv snow thing
Also Dogma: *𝔉𝔏𝔜*
I think it reference to blue baby or a biblical staff idk
@@jamonqueso2.052 it also can refer to the fact that flies are by far like, the single most abundant enemy in the whole game.
There's so many fly variants.
@@gavindillon1486 ...so many
Isaac probably had a phobia of the flies, and because of that there's that stupid amount of fly enemies
IM THE BUG INSIDE YOU
I HAVE YOUR BACK TO THE WALL
SURVIVED THE FALL FROM GRACE
DRINK OF THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF GOD
Soon enough, rage comics as a whole will come back
They already kinda did, albeit in an ironic way.
Edmund: We do a little trolling, we do a little trolling.
these are also briefly animated as well, though it's not shown here (aside from the demon troll face) due to pause i assume.
they each have 3 frames:
the lamb head has a snake come out of its eye, which turns to face the camera
the mosquito opens its wings
the isaac head cries
and the demon troll face lowers its jaw.
And no one mentions, that dogma actually dabs between transitions?^^
He dabs on Isaac to assert dominance
@@DirtyDeedsDoneDirtCheapD4C christianity*
There is a comment about that that is hearted by the creator of this video.
Dogma does a little trollimg
0:25 the binding of Isaac incident
Well he's killing himself right now as he enters a lovecraftian hell. At this point Isaac is the true trollge, like
"How to fix things at home"
"Step one - Grab a knife"
"Step two - Find and kill Satan"
"..."
"Step two - Find and kill Satan"
" *Step three - Realise that you're Satan* "
" *Step four - Accept your fate* "
" *Step five - Take out some super glue, the knife and all your filthy memories of your human life* "
" *Step six - Jump in the chest. Glue yourself airless, hopeless* "
" *DROWNDROWNDROWNDROWN* "
@@muchotexto4248 step seven:
Realize you never did anything wrong and your mother was an absolute monster. Kill a twisted memory of her. Ascend to heaven at last.
Step eight: peace.
Pretty interesting fact!
It's probably supposed to represent this:
Horned troll = Satan
Horned Skull = The lamb
Isaac = Isaac (duh)
Fly = ???/blue baby
The trollface is a good thing to look at in 3am :)
I think the fly is a reference to the locusts of the harbringers
belzebub even, maybe
Nah it's blue baby, each of the images corresponds to a boss. Isaacs head is Isaac, Trollface is Satan, Lamb skull is The Lamb, and the fly is Blue Baby
Isaacs head & lamb skull i get but-
How is BB related to flies & even more so how is satan a troll face?
@@WobbleW0k blue baby is a dead child that shits himself, that could explain the flies
as for the satan trollge, its less clear, but it goes mostly because of the horns
@@faqconill6478 Also, playable ??? turns red hearts into flies
So Isaac's own reflection in the tv screen, a fly, maybe on the screen or as a representation of Beelzebub, the trollface with demon horns is probably some image from the christian broadcast since they love to fearmonger demons, even showing them, and the lamb might be an image of jesus as Isaac's imagination perceves it.
honestly that Trollface kinda looks like the demons from old paintings, tell me what you think
@@babaskarma1981 That could be too, but remember Im from latin america, a place that they fear higher and lower beings, this same preachings I have heard over and over
I like how this is sorta a nod to how Dogma isnt actually an angel but rather a devil pretending to be an angel
i want to thank you for all the time you spent for us to give us info that most of us dont need and being a time consumer because damn lockdown sucks time is slower than normal to those people who have nothing to do.
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS SO MUCH THANK YOU
**3 hour explanation about their meaning in the lore**
is less actually, all of them represent bosses: Isaac face for Isaac, the fly for ???, trollface for Satan and the lamb skull for the Lamb
@@oxob3333 yeah i though so
Thank you! I was wondering that for the longest time
Finaly. I have been searching for a video showing these.
kinda wished the devs/artists added more forms to represent more stuff related to isaac
I actually first noticed this today. I really like small details like these in games
Every time i see the trollface i think of that meme where the black guy is laughing in total darkness and you can only see his eyes and teeth.
I Hope everyone is having a good day ❤️
thank you, copper shortsword from the hit sandbox survival game: Terraria.
Hey, Terrarian
thank you, copper shortsword from the *2D minecraft* survival game called Terraria
awesome, love videos like these
i love your vids❤️
props to the guy for waiting for 3 and a half hours
There's something surreal about seeing a real fly in isaac after seeing Isaac's cartoon flys for so long.
Would be interesting if this was some kinda code. Like kill lamb with brimstone bombs on isaac while beelzebub transformation is active or smth
just noticed that the same day this was uploaded on another video, tho I didn't get to see isaac's head, the lamb skull or the fly, just the horned troll face
Damn, that Dogma's pose is stylish as hell.
i love the aesthetics of this boss so much its so cool, and this just made it even cooler to me.. despite the trollface lol
Uhh game theory… we’re gonna need you for this!
probably the four original Rebirth bosses
-Isaac
-that one fly that catches your guard off
-That one trollbomb that also catches your guard off
-The lamb
3rd June 2021, The "Corrupted Children" Incident
the first one creeped me out a bit at 2am but it was a lot less intimidating when you described it as "a troll face with horns" lol
I fought him like 10+ times and didn't even notice lol
I discovered this reading the wiki, is a really neat detail.
Cool and thanks
Glad UA-cam recommended this to me. I never played it
Beast be doing a little bit of trolling
I think those sprites correspond to the four harbingers. While the fly definitely impersonates Pestilence, the lamb's skull is most likely Death, the trollface is probably War and Isaac's head could be Famine.
Game theory is gonna have a field day with this information
The “troll face” could also be a really disfigured beast
0:49 I think this reference to the whybirth mod as a secret boss was a fly and it was dogma style (i think)
finally! someone is talking about this!
So much symbolism.
The Lamb skull could be Satan, The Lamb boss
Troll face or Trollege with horns could be Loki, Lil horn, Big horn, The Beast or as a Joke
The Fly could be a reference to the Why birth Why Fly, the Flies locusts and anything fly related
The fly could also be a reference to beezlebub.
@@izakthehumblememeseller9340 yeah you right, or we all are just over looking it and it's just a fly lol
@@christianjames3797 knowing Edmund McMillen, it's most likely a regular fly
The Fly could also either represent Mother (A decaying body), Blue Baby, or The Basement (Basement's song literally means "Fly song").
I don't know if it's been covered yet, but I noticed a weird "synergy" in a run I had the other day. If you have continuum and tractor beam, when the tears go off the screen they don't wrap to the other side. They wrap as if Isaac himself was the other side. It makes it very easy to layer tears in front of you if you're close to the edge of the screen.
I have had that several times but it's just because the tears HAVE to stay inside the beam, even going as far as to skip from the opposite side of the screen directly to Isaac, if I remember it can break using items like lachryphagy
I remember seeing the trollface one ingame. It was after i beat dogma a fair amount of times, so i absolutely did not expect to see it there, and got really confused, before ruling it off as me being insane for thinking i saw a trollface for a super short amount of time, before discovering it as an actual feature of dogma.
Pure arts
the fly so random bruh
well, the game has a bunch of flies so...
@@otsu3011 ye but this one realistic
Troleador cara
The most scariest thing in this video is a timer imo.
Three and a half hours damn :^
This is not spooky, this is SCARY! lmao
A Troll face with horns is the most Edmund McMillen shit i've ever seen
Dogma does a little trolling
good to know I was not tripping when I saw what I saw when I was fighting dogma
that troll face is not gonna make me sleep
Anyone noticed that these forms kinda represent some bosses
(Troll face with horns can represent bosses like Satan, fallen, dark one, bighorn, little horn etc., a fly can represent bosses like duke of flies, Isaac represents Isaac boss and Lambs skull represents the lamb).
nice one
Seeing a realistic fly and skull in Isaac is honestly really REALLY jarring and I feel like I've stumbled upon forbidden knowledge by watching this video
I think this might represent the other routes in the game, isaac's head being the Isaac or ??? bossfights, the lamb skull being The Lamb in the Dark Room, the fly, representing Mother (and maybe the corpse levels) and the troll maybe being mega satan because thats whats left, but I think its just when you get killed
I remember when i saw the trollface flicker for the first time and thought it was a mod i had installed so i had to look it up to make sure i wasnt going insane
Cool
I knew I wasn’t going nuts
This short video worth to leave a like and write the comment, very original autor i didnt got dissapointed!
I once saw isaac's head, was really dope
It seems like each icon is referring to the 2 bosses you fight based on which path you take. The bosses in cathedral and chest would be Isaac for Isaac and the fly for Blue baby/???. For Sheol and Dark room it would be the trollface for satan and the lamb head for the lamb. As to what specific metaphor I'm not sure but it could be an example of how this boss is supposed to be all encompassing, to tie in most if not all endings.
I knew I wasn’t just seeing things.
Four paths that all lead to foreboding endings
I love it when a fetus comes out of my TV then turns into a fly
God does a bit of trolling
Neat
Mr joestar .... its a fly
The glitched form remind me of the faces Flowey form undertale used to maken when he absorbed all the souls. When he gets a TV as a face
Dogma is about to do some trolling :)
With those fucking feathers I swear...
ok cool thx for the awesome vid, now, what do I do with this information?