Hey mate... thanks for that...I fished this rig for the first time two nights ago.... inspired by your good self in previous videos... im quite disabled and don't want to be getting up and down for whiting etc... I didn't catch but I'm happy to say all the aspects of the rig came together nicely.. the rig cast well and released each time with no tangles.. the dongles worked well and the bait building process was painless ...they cast and lasted well.... I feel all that is needed now is the presents of a fish I "want" to catch and thats all thanks too your willingness to share your hard won knowledge ... thanks for that......fish on...
As an experienced South African angler I commend you for adapting our traces (rigs) for your conditions and introducing our techniques to the world. However what you refer to as our big game rig is simply our bite trace with which we target small sharks, rays and large edibles. For larger sharks we use the full metal jacket trace with hook snoods ranging from 0.5m to 1.5m depending on the species we are targeting. I recently landed a 152kg bronze whaler shark (copper) on our East Coast with the fmj trace. The fight took three hours over rocks covered with mussel beds. There is no way I would have landed the 300 pounder with a bite trace.
Hi bud. I am aware of the MFG, and the many other variations. I call it the big game rig, because of the concept behind using one continuous piece of material with as few fail points in it as possible! Unfortunately people become bored if videos are too long, so I tried to keep them as short as possible and get a message across. Sometimes things get lost in translation. Thanks for writing in, see you on the beach brother 😁👌
Here again for a refresh because Tope season coming 😂 I tried this rig a bit over the winter, worked well for everything except eels, they destroy it by spinning the lead line and snood together and get all wrapped up 😠 👍
Honestly a pulley rig would be your best bet! These rigs are used for casting oversized baits. Not unless you need the distance and are using bait of half a m mackerel! Thanks Brother 😁👌
@@Billyfishing_watch ended up catching two schoolies on a two up one down rig and nothing on your rig or a normal pulley rig. case of casting into the wrong place at the wrong time and into the right place at the right time.
Just building all my rigs for another summer of surf casting here in NZ's South Island. Inspired by your previous video on this rig and how it helps with casting large baits, I've built a few to use when fishing for West Coast Snapper 😊 Keep up the great work on the channel Billy, one of the best on UA-cam
For stingray I go 70lb rigbody and 50lb Berkeley big game flourocarbon with a size 3/0 varivas big mouth xtra and a 4/0 circle as my pennell hook, / running up and over rig
Hi bud, some years ago I would have fish like that too but. I'm trying to catch two fish with one rig. J hooks are unnecessary when using a circle hook, especially with rays. Thanks Brother 👍😁
Hey Billy. Did go fishing on Sunday yesterday and did use the Dingle dangle. Least said was very happy with the results. Caught some marine catfish and eels on the rig. My casting distance improved by a huge margine. Need to learn some distance casting techniques now. 👍👍
@@Billyfishing_watch hi Billy I'm in India at Mumbai. It's Rohit. Had a blast yesterday because the cast was imprived and the bait remained on the hooks.
@@Billyfishing_watch just finished watching the video on casting different styles. Will be giving those casting styles a go on the next trip coming sunday. I do go fishing in rivers and dams for carp too.
I will start using this an dthe up and over ring rig..very informative Billy. All this seems to be working for you..Wel doenr and keep up the good work.. Just wondering what length do you make your rigs over all?? Also woulkd the ring in the up and over hook snood have to be strong a sthinking it would create a weak link in the snood?
Hi Gavin. The open over ring rig is not a big game rig. But you could catch fish up to 30 lbs. The big game rig, depending on the strength of the line you use will catch fish to several hundred lbs. Thanks Brother 😁👍
@@Billyfishing_watch Nice..I usually tend to use pulley rigs but this big game rig looks good for the cod ray tope and huss with the bow in the rig b ody keeping it away from the bait but still leaving the bait streamlined during the cast. Is this rig good for rays. the issue I see with the pulley rig is taht the bait is in constant contact with the rig body. i have seen your video on using dingle dangles for pulleys however I do use a gemini splash down clip which locks the dingle dangle in place during cast but big baits are in contact with the rig body where as with the south african/big game rig the bait isn't.
Actually you don't need any fancy bait clips, they just make problems for you. Just a traditional bait clip on the lead weight, or a genie bait clip. And a rotten bottom of some type 👌
Hi Billy. Sorry but I missed the lead connection at the end. Also, I don't have many "toothy" critters around here until March. So, I'm planning on using mono hairs for the 1st few months of the year. Why? The only worms I can get my hands on are dehydrated. Also, the only live baits are clam mantles & mussels. Both very soft. I'm thinking the mono will just work better for me. Your thoughts? Thanx for posting bud.
Hi Randy. the sinker just goes on the 80lb line, on a clip. It doesn't matter what you make the rig from, but the hairs work best if they not made of mono. It stretches the bait. thanks Brother 👍😁
I was watching another video on how to tie a shark trace they use in South Africa using the same method with the only difference being the use wire for all the full length of trace from the hook up to the top swivel instead of tying a length of 100lb mono to the wire like you do. I am aware that is is so if a shark is on and the wire trace moves over the mono the full length of wire prevents the shark biting through the mono bit of the trace and cutting you off. I want to make this trace for mainly Tope in the Uk. Is your method safe enough from a Tope biting through or would a full length of wire straight through be safer??
The rig you mention is FMG, this stands for full metal jacket. It is completely unnecessary for tope! 50 to 60 cm bite trace, using 150lb wire . And you will have no trouble 👌
I was also thinking of tying a lighter line from the pulley bead to the sinker to act as weak link.. is that loop knot tying the wire to the mono strong enough to hod for a pull?
Hey Billy, love your videos, I just wondering is there any place where I can order already finish rigs, I am a beginner in surfcasting, I live in Ålesund, and here they don’t really sell so much equipment, so I wondering if there is some place on internet where I can buy already made rigs like this South African rig
Hi bud. Unfortunately no! But it is one of the easiest rigs to make. Also unless you are casting very big baits like me, it is probably unnecessary. There is a rig called a pulley rig, this is also easy to make. And you can buy it on the internet. You will find them for sale on this site, VMO mail order. com! Tight lines Brother 😁👌
Hey mate... thanks for that...I fished this rig for the first time two nights ago.... inspired by your good self in previous videos... im quite disabled and don't want to be getting up and down for whiting etc... I didn't catch but I'm happy to say all the aspects of the rig came together nicely.. the rig cast well and released each time with no tangles.. the dongles worked well and the bait building process was painless ...they cast and lasted well.... I feel all that is needed now is the presents of a fish I "want" to catch and thats all thanks too your willingness to share your hard won knowledge ... thanks for that......fish on...
Hi Rob, fantastic to hear, that the rig is working for you. And makeing your fish better. Tight lines Brother, see you on the beach 👍😁
As an experienced South African angler I commend you for adapting our traces (rigs) for your conditions and introducing our techniques to the world. However what you refer to as our big game rig is simply our bite trace with which we target small sharks, rays and large edibles. For larger sharks we use the full metal jacket trace with hook snoods ranging from 0.5m to 1.5m depending on the species we are targeting. I recently landed a 152kg bronze whaler shark (copper) on our East Coast with the fmj trace. The fight took three hours over rocks covered with mussel beds. There is no way I would have landed the 300 pounder with a bite trace.
Hi bud. I am aware of the MFG, and the many other variations. I call it the big game rig, because of the concept behind using one continuous piece of material with as few fail points in it as possible! Unfortunately people become bored if videos are too long, so I tried to keep them as short as possible and get a message across. Sometimes things get lost in translation. Thanks for writing in, see you on the beach brother 😁👌
Here again for a refresh because Tope season coming 😂
I tried this rig a bit over the winter, worked well for everything except eels, they destroy it by spinning the lead line and snood together and get all wrapped up 😠 👍
Hi Daz
Yes, it's a great rig, but no eel's bud! It's for distance. A short heavy running ledger is best for conger. Thanks Brother 😁👌
@Billyfishing_watch Yeah agree, i rarely fish for eels they just find me 🤣
cheers Billy 👍
@dazlee3257 there's not much you can do about that 😅
hail the south african rig
hail
Thanks Emmanuel, fish on 👍😁👌
My dream to get too namibia and catch a copper shark from the beach ,even with a minty swivel 😁🎣
Hi Arch. If you have the money and the time, just do it. Life gets in the way sometimes. thanks Brother 👍😁
@@Billyfishing_watch yes mate i watch zoo look fishing awesome channel 🎣
Another good informative video Billy thank for sharing
Anytime Brian, thanks Brother 👍😁👌
very interesting. I'm going to tie up a few of these in different configs and try them tomorrow on a surf beach for bass.
Honestly a pulley rig would be your best bet! These rigs are used for casting oversized baits. Not unless you need the distance and are using bait of half a m mackerel! Thanks Brother 😁👌
@@Billyfishing_watch im going to use big crab baits
Well, if you think it will work better than a traditional rig! Go for it 👌
@@Billyfishing_watch ended up catching two schoolies on a two up one down rig and nothing on your rig or a normal pulley rig. case of casting into the wrong place at the wrong time and into the right place at the right time.
@defiantirishman4749 nice 👍
Just building all my rigs for another summer of surf casting here in NZ's South Island. Inspired by your previous video on this rig and how it helps with casting large baits, I've built a few to use when fishing for West Coast Snapper 😊 Keep up the great work on the channel Billy, one of the best on UA-cam
Hi Ian, and thank you Brother. Hope the summer is good to you 👍😁👌
Amazing rig
Yes it is, simple and effective. The South Africans know their stuff. Thanks Brother 👍😁
Another great edit 👌 definitely gona try this rig out thanks 👊
It's a great rig, and easy to make. Thanks Brother 👍😁
Nice rig billy, a work of art 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks Brother, fish on 👍😁👌
Good one thanks Brother. Stay safe & well. 🎣🎣👍👍
Anytime bud, fish on 👍😁
For stingray I go 70lb rigbody and 50lb Berkeley big game flourocarbon with a size 3/0 varivas big mouth xtra and a 4/0 circle as my pennell hook, / running up and over rig
Hi bud, some years ago I would have fish like that too but. I'm trying to catch two fish with one rig. J hooks are unnecessary when using a circle hook, especially with rays. Thanks Brother 👍😁
My shop ain't got shit only had cherry tic-tacs but I made em work 🤪
Whatever flavour gets the job done brother 😂🤣. Thanks, see you on the beach 👍😁
Hey Billy. Did go fishing on Sunday yesterday and did use the Dingle dangle. Least said was very happy with the results. Caught some marine catfish and eels on the rig. My casting distance improved by a huge margine. Need to learn some distance casting techniques now. 👍👍
Hi Anaynya, sounds fantastic. Glad it's working out of you what part of the world are you in?
@@Billyfishing_watch hi Billy I'm in India at Mumbai. It's Rohit. Had a blast yesterday because the cast was imprived and the bait remained on the hooks.
Wow! Are you fishing in rivers? I have some casting videos you can check out, just follow the link
ua-cam.com/video/JGMXVjM3Y4Y/v-deo.html
@@Billyfishing_watch just finished watching the video on casting different styles. Will be giving those casting styles a go on the next trip coming sunday. I do go fishing in rivers and dams for carp too.
Great video Billy. Fish on brother.
Thanks Shaun, tight lines Brother 👍😁👌
I find the TicTack swivels are the best buddy 🙂What knot the Billy knot🙂 Awesome as always Brother, see you on the Beach ✌✌🤘
Hi Matt, I wondered why everytime I use breath mints I broke some teeth🤣😂 thanks Brother 👍😁👌
Great channel
Thanks David, glad you like it Brother 👍😁
If he keeps showing his "Dingle dangle" he'll get arrested....😂🤣😂
Too late, Rich😂🤣 Thanks Brother 👍😁
Good stuff Billy,,I must try rig,thank mate😉
Give it a go buddy, what's the worst that can happen 🤣👍 thanks Brother 👍😁
Great video thanks for the tips 👍
Anytime Brother, tight lines 👍😁
thats a cracking rig billy
Hi Dave, there is no better way to cast a big bait. Thanks Brother 👍😁👌
I will start using this an dthe up and over ring rig..very informative Billy. All this seems to be working for you..Wel doenr and keep up the good work.. Just wondering what length do you make your rigs over all?? Also woulkd the ring in the up and over hook snood have to be strong a sthinking it would create a weak link in the snood?
Hi Gavin. The open over ring rig is not a big game rig. But you could catch fish up to 30 lbs. The big game rig, depending on the strength of the line you use will catch fish to several hundred lbs. Thanks Brother 😁👍
@@Billyfishing_watch Nice..I usually tend to use pulley rigs but this big game rig looks good for the cod ray tope and huss with the bow in the rig b ody keeping it away from the bait but still leaving the bait streamlined during the cast. Is this rig good for rays. the issue I see with the pulley rig is taht the bait is in constant contact with the rig body. i have seen your video on using dingle dangles for pulleys however I do use a gemini splash down clip which locks the dingle dangle in place during cast but big baits are in contact with the rig body where as with the south african/big game rig the bait isn't.
Actually you don't need any fancy bait clips, they just make problems for you. Just a traditional bait clip on the lead weight, or a genie bait clip. And a rotten bottom of some type 👌
Hi Billy. Sorry but I missed the lead connection at the end. Also, I don't have many "toothy" critters around here until March. So, I'm planning on using mono hairs for the 1st few months of the year. Why? The only worms I can get my hands on are dehydrated. Also, the only live baits are clam mantles & mussels. Both very soft. I'm thinking the mono will just work better for me. Your thoughts? Thanx for posting bud.
Hi Randy. the sinker just goes on the 80lb line, on a clip. It doesn't matter what you make the rig from, but the hairs work best if they not made of mono. It stretches the bait. thanks Brother 👍😁
awsome rig billy, if ya don’t mind me askin what type of weight is the one you had in the video where you can put the dangle on. Thank ya Billy! 💪🏽💪🏽
Hi Luke. I make the sinkers myself, they are called grip leads or singers. And yes it is made to be fished with Dingle dangles. Thanks Brother 😁👌
Go South Africa
Thanks Maria. fantastic rig, fantastic country 👍😁👌
Great video billy 👍
Thanks Warren, glad you like it Brother 👍😁
I was watching another video on how to tie a shark trace they use in South Africa using the same method with the only difference being the use wire for all the full length of trace from the hook up to the top swivel instead of tying a length of 100lb mono to the wire like you do. I am aware that is is so if a shark is on and the wire trace moves over the mono the full length of wire prevents the shark biting through the mono bit of the trace and cutting you off. I want to make this trace for mainly Tope in the Uk. Is your method safe enough from a Tope biting through or would a full length of wire straight through be safer??
The rig you mention is FMG, this stands for full metal jacket. It is completely unnecessary for tope! 50 to 60 cm bite trace, using 150lb wire . And you will have no trouble 👌
@Billyfishing_watch thanks brother..yea that FMJ rig is probably suited for bronze sharks they target in South Africa
I was also thinking of tying a lighter line from the pulley bead to the sinker to act as weak link.. is that loop knot tying the wire to the mono strong enough to hod for a pull?
Billy’s loop knot I’ll call it
Thanks Bowhunting buddy 😁👌
Hey Billy, love your videos, I just wondering is there any place where I can order already finish rigs, I am a beginner in surfcasting, I live in Ålesund, and here they don’t really sell so much equipment, so I wondering if there is some place on internet where I can buy already made rigs like this South African rig
Hi bud. Unfortunately no! But it is one of the easiest rigs to make. Also unless you are casting very big baits like me, it is probably unnecessary. There is a rig called a pulley rig, this is also easy to make. And you can buy it on the internet. You will find them for sale on this site, VMO mail order. com! Tight lines Brother 😁👌
@@Billyfishing_watch thank you so much billy🙏
@kirilbarinov4033 anytime Brother 😁👌
what is the brand of cutter plier you are using in this video, please
Hi Sulaiman, the cuters are call hero. I got them in Norway. The best ones I ever had. Thanks Brother 👍😁
@@Billyfishing_watch
THANK YOU, BRO
COULD YOU SEND ME A LINK PLEASE
@@ALSAIBANI sorry buddy, but I got the cuters about 10 years ago. And I can't remember where I got them👍
@@Billyfishing_watch
THANK YOU
I APPRECIATE IT