Female surgeon from Singapore here. I didn't know this thing about the caps was an issue! Certainly isn't in my hospital. Everyone just wears whichever one they prefer. I have long hair and usually wear the bouffant cap, but managed to tie up and stuff my hair into a skull cap several times before when the usual disposable bouffant cap i use was out of stock. We don't seem to have that few male nurses also, but perhaps that's because i'm in ortho.
@@Yukinario. what people wear affects their job and role, as an engineer too u have to wear clothes which minimise risks etc. Its not a fashion show, dress the safest and get the fucking work done
@@hiteshadhikari did you know that your immune system doesn't work as well in the cold operating room? It is solely for the comfort of the surgeon at the risk of the patient. also, we would actually have to re do all our medical science inorder to remove the racial biases they had in the day.
@@pugdad2555 yeah, i would not like the person operating on me to be uncomfortable esp when surgeries can last quite few hrs It sounds like a way to die
Yes, hat type WAS an issue recently. But it had more to do with nurses declaring a power battle: nurses LOVE telling MDs what to do. I admit the "skullcap tradition" argument was misguided, but the science proved the nurses wrong.
Your reactions could be considered “dry” compared to the source material but I appreciate how your passion for what you do shines through. As a squeamish person when it comes to medical things it’s comforting to know that there’s people like you out there if I ever need their help.
Our bouffant caps in way up northern Canada were green OR material like the skull caps.so our one long haired surgeon wore that and the 2 bald ones wore the skull caps and the female anesthetist with short hair wore the skull cap too. Us Nurses wore bouffants in green.Hated when the polka dot patterns and daisys came out, look like little house on the prairie in the OR.
Imagine graduating medical school only to find that the barrier to entering a surgical field is the cap the surgeon is wearing. This sounds like a huge non-issue.
You do have a point. However, in an already extremely difficult field small barriers/benefits can make significant differences - if the small comfort of a patient thanking you every once in a while can be the reason you keep going to work, it stands to reason that the small barrier of being consistently treated differently based only on your professional attire could do the opposite.
like are you ignoring the fact that people are hired based on how they dress/look? There are alot of surgeons that can't find work solely due to the color of their skin. Why do you ignore that fact?
I was under the impression that surgery was extremely merit-based. The best man (or woman) gets the spot. You can’t BS your way through surgery like you can in internal medicine.
Hi! I've been watching your videos for a while now to listen to different perspectives of medical workers. It's really fun and educational to watch you react to Glaucomflecken's videos while giving insight on all the nuisances and jokes. Keep up the good work!
@@RichHilsden Not defending the first one either. It seems weird. If you're gonna think about reducing the risc of infection caused by the hair from the medical staff, why would you compare only 2 used hair protectors? Why not try to design something that will produce the desired result?
In OR I work at at least, the vast majority of our staff wears cloth scrub caps. The women will wear ponytail caps, skull caps, euro styles, etc. and most all of the males will wear a skull cap. I’ve never personally thought that it was a gender thing- if anything we all have found caps that encompass each of our individual personalities. Complimenting each others caps throughout the day is common place! Even poking fun at the surgeon wearing their favorite sports team that lost the night before. Perhaps it’s because my hospital does not have gender specific or really any policy on what caps we wear besides them not having offensive language or imagery. In fact, most everyone chooses to not wear the provided disposable caps because we think they make us look silly. It was very interesting to hear about the issue revolving caps and their interesting implications of unity and fairness in the OR. It makes me feel lucky that in my hospital caps are seen as personality pieces rather than gender/ importance factors. Love the reaction!
I can sum up the OR in a simple sentence that i often repeat to those that question some of the "OCD-like" behaviors that we exhibit around aseptic technique, ergonomics, instrument quality, patient positioning, temperature, lighting, etc. We control the controllable because there's so much out of our control.
It can be authentic in the fact that a decreased risk of loose hairs would be safer for the patient while also having a secondary motive behind it that is sociopolitical
That is actually a fair point. Maybe I was being a little unfair with my comment on that. Deep down inside ARON and FACS both want what’s best for patients.
@@RichHilsden thank you for being someone who is willing to admit you were possibly wrong. That is something everyone should learn how to do & to be comfortable with doing when they are presented evidence/a line of reasoning that is convincing enough to at least entertain the possibility.
I always wore a hood and sweat band or tape to secure the front of the hood to my forehead. Why? Because it covered more skin and hair. Simple. If covering skin and hair is good, covering more of it is unlikely to be bad. I can reflect on a particular operation that I used to do for which national statistics indicated an infection rate of up to 9.5% I stopped counting at 1000 cases and had NO infections. Of course, I was a fanatic about aseptic technique and pt. prep. Minor alterations to what is often done in ORs can result in dramatically lower risks of infection.
And hence I wear a skullcap-- I am a woman, and there has not been ONE DAY where I am accurately identified as such. Ironically, I've had more clashes with nurses than with surgeons-- and that's saying a LOT. But why does the anesthesiologist wear a pink bouffant cap?
I went to the American College of Surgeons conference in Orlando and they looked super sophisticated and wealthy. They were very interested in continuing education and in our National Library of Medicine booth. They said we love you constantly.
I loved your last comment on the video. If you are choosing to drive a Porsche or a BMW to work, how much do you really have to complain about? It's nice to see the other side of surgeons, every time I have had to go into surgery I have only gotten a small snapshot of their personality. In one case I never met the surgeon. I love how many of you have opened up on UA-cam, it will definitely make it less overwhelming in the future!! Great video!
No no no I actually LOVE your reactions and little side stories. I’m not even in the medical field but I find little facts like the whole larger hairnets or whatever vs the skullcap really interesting
Frankly as a woman (not in medicine) I’m sure the bias is pervasive everywhere but I think mindset is the issue not the clothing. I wouldn’t love it if my job said everyone must wear a button up and pants. If I want to wear a dress or skirt then I can. We need to change how people think not what they wear. If a surgeon operating on me is more comfortable in a skull cap and it’s not dirty than let him. I care about living not about his hat.
As a former general surgery peri operative nurse I remember when this change to bouffants was pushed. Caused huge back last and now here we are back to reusable skull and bouffants
and also, that is exactly what the Surgeons are backing to not be inclusive. If they were, more men would have their hair longer. But surgeons only hire surgeons that look like them sadly.
@@pugdad2555 why are you so affected with short haired male doctors? does that dictate their skills? having long hair during a long operation can get hot, a surgeon certainly wouldn't want to have sweat running down from his head to his face. males on average get hot more quickly than females, hence why female surgeons can sport a longer hair and not sweat as much as a male doctor with long hair, not only that but men sweat more on average than women. who would want their surgeons uncomfortable and sweating during an operation?
Getting such Dexter vibe and I'm like 1 min I'm to it.....I don't mind it. I like how he breaks apart everything, even why they're wearing different hairdressing
A similar gender normative debate is currently happening in Australia, though for us its gender specific titles. As you know Mr. has been the preferred title for a male surgeon since surgery emerged as a profession in the UK. Female surgeons tend to go by Dr. as opposed to Mrs/Ms (though they can go by either) and have contended that Mr. is in fact sexist (though I don't find that argument particularly persuasive). The original argument used to try and force everyone into going by Dr. was that it was worsening patient outcomes due to increased anxiety/stress due to confusion of not knowing if their surgeon was a real doctor (a ludicrous assertion). It was then quickly revealed that administrators and some female surgeons didn't like that males had their own title, now it is looking like the RACS is going to adopt the elimination of gender specific titles.
Super interesting. First, I didn’t know the Australians used Mr. Second, I though that calling surgeons Mr. was problematic back in the 90’s. I would be interested to learn more and see how that pans out. Thanks for the watch and the comment
@@RichHilsden At least half of surgeons (more in private, less in public sectors) here go by Mr., Australia is a hugely diverse medical community, to completely spitball I'd say 10% of our doctors (mostly specialists) are from India and Pakistan and 15% are from the UK (they bring their traditions, Mr. is also the tradition for local Australian surgeons), since we all share the same 5-6 year MBBS/BMBCh training programs and JMO -> RMO -> Registrar -> fellow -> consultant pathways, so IMG accreditation isn't as complicated. The difference is since Australia is a semi-privatised medical industry, specialist consultants here still earn upwards of $600,000, so we have many IMGs from the UK migrate here to escape NHS compensation. It's definitely been problematic in the eyes of some for a long time, however, in the last few years those concerns have turned into actions, to the point its likely the Mr. title will be entirely banned for public sector surgeons (possible even private through the college) within the next year or two.
This is wild. I had never heard of anything like this! In my country everyone just goes by Dr. regardless of gender. Never really gave it much thought to be honest. Most patients are just happy to have a competent surgeon with a good reputation, they don't really care if you call yourself " DR. MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST".
you are the first doctor ive come across giving a serious explaination of the video. if the surgeon is complaining about the hospital admins taking money for themselves, and surgeon is driving around in bmw and porsche.......maybe I need to become a hospital admin....
As a patient having had 20 surgeries, this is fascinating and funny as Hell! (Major back surgery adding 6 Monarch screws, 2 sacroiliac's adding 3 more screws to each side. 7 major abdominal surgeries for bowel obstructions, 3 right arm surgeries for double staph infection, 7 more various other body parts, lmao!)
I'm working on it!!! LMAOOO at 64 years young! Walk mile to 3 to 5 miles a day depending on errands. My orthopedic back surgeon, when I asked what happens if I don't do the back surgery replied, "pick the wheelchair you want to spend the rest of your life in". I replied, I'll do the surgery!. He said it would be in 2 weeks, took 30 days to get scheduled. Best decision I ever made!
Yes! I 💗 your comment at the very end: While yes, it's true that when you have a solid team, you like to complain/vent/rant, how much do you REALLY have to complain about when you can have a choice of ride to work: Beemer or Porsche! 🤔Not too much! Love your videos & how your reactions give even more insight into these hilarious vids & what practicing medicine really entails.
The outcome of a scientific experience is determined based on the the questions you ask. And the questions you are allowed to ask are often based on whatever the people funding the experiment want the outcome to be.
Theyre also used to be a tradition of not washing hands in hospitals well unless a tradition and more of they just didn't do it and then there was pushback whenever doctors were told to wash their hands especially whenever they were doing surgery. And now every doctor and surgeon out there knows that especially when doing surgery that if they don't wash their hands they could definitely be fired and they're okay with that if they're not fired they would at least get a reprimand and they're okay with that so basically they're just like every other human and they are afraid of change especially change that puts them on an even ground with people that they see as inferior even if it's just subconsciously
One of the only Dr G. reaction videos that takes the comedy seriously, no laughing along with the characterizations or the poking fun at his own specialty. Frankly it sounds like the doc is sort of defensive, and less entertained...which reinforces the surgeon stereotype. I have seen other docs react more good-naturedly and laugh along. While I learned about table positions and head coverings, it was too much (and which I had already googled anyway) of this video IMHO. 3 stars.
Ppl with long hair: Buffant cap Ppl with short hair: Cap "But women mostly have longer hair and it's unfair that they have to dress differently" ... cut your hair? As a guy with long hair I wear a buffant cap and don't freak out about being "pushed into a different gender" or sth like that...
Why am I doubting the doctors' study? When they already knew the results they wanted to get. A study should usually be done by an objective individual.
I will admit, I thought the same thing. Definitely a risk of bias. That being said, experimental evidence is a lot stronger than opinion and that is all AORN was offering.
Fyi Doc, I have a Master's Degree in Counseling and promptly recognized the dynamics of hospitals matching the criteria for "Addictive Family Dynamics". The Surgeons (often character disordered - narcissistic men) are the alcoholic/addict, a person with infantile psychological development. Female nurses can be flaming Codependents/ enablers, often because they have romantic and/or sexual attachments with the powerful Docs, which makes them feel powerful / important. The patients? Well they are obviously the scapegoated "identified patient". IF something "went wrong" it's ALL their fault!!! Also, 15% of healthcare workers are chemically dependent!!! I had an experience in a top 20 hospital in the USA. My friend was admitted for a gastro surgery, thru the ED, the following morning. She was scheduled for 8:30 and I was directed to be there at 6:30 am as her support person. Then the (narcissistic) surgeon says the dreaded words: "tomorrow is my birthday". Why are those words "dreaded"? Well in my experience the narcissist's inner child wants to feel "really, REALLY special", not just every day but ESPECIALLY on their birthday. That typically means lots of sexual activity for them ESPECIALLY first thing in the am. I ask the surgeon "do you want to bump it back to later"? He says "no, I'll make it". I arrive at 6:30 am to my friends room. We are anxiously awaiting her to be transported to pre-op...and no one comes. For hours. Except the lying nurse. At first the nurse says "we're going to be a little late". Later this Codependent nurse starts to insist "the patient doesn't have a scheduled OR time". ( Really? How do you think surgery order is decided?!? Throwing dice?) Finally, we were told "that pre-op has been REALLY busy". See how she LIES to protect the surgeon/alcoholic/addict?!? Not once, but multiple times? Finally, at noon were taken to pre- op. I casually ask "has it been busy down here today". "No. It's been kind of slow". Next I'm taken to a waiting area and check in. The woman at the desk says "we were expecting you at 8:30". (Yeah, I know, but you just confirmed it.) Following the surgery, the surgeon reports "it all went well, she's doing fine"..."any other questions"? Yeah. How come the surgery got started so late? Well you'd think I accused the man of being drunk while performing surgery...he used all of the air one narcissist could muster and willed me into silence. "I'm NOT going to talk about that". I imagine you're not. So what do you do IF you are in a similar position? You write up the experiences, the names of the personnel, their position, witnesses present, and date and approximate time...then email or FAX it to the hospital administrator. For good measure you can send a hard copy via registered mail. Every act I identified is a potential LIABILITY issue for the hospital. A good administrator will thank you.
Medical personnel should be able to wear any standard safe attire in which they feel comfortable. Some facilities have a color or uniform (military) for which you have to agree tp compromise in advance. But you are going to have a happier staff with less turnover if you don't micromanage their attire.
After you said “how much does he have to complain about” I thought you might say something clever and anticipated a punch line haha. Keep it classy love it.
I definitely have expectations about what genders I'm going to see in certain roles but, whenever I see the opposite gender from what I expected, I think 'Oh, this person was really driven to be here and no amount of societal persuasion was going to change their minds' and that can sometimes produce even more confidence in them.
I just discovered your channel, as a surgical tech I really enjoyed this video. Have you done any of Stevejoes videos yet, he’s really funny. I’d like to see your reaction to them~
in the beginning you asked what people liked about your reaction videos. what I like is that - as a non med person from a different continent - I get information about medical puns I do not understand or that might not happen in my country. all doctors in my family are non-patient-doctors, from hygiene/microbiology or pathology so what I usually hear is "do not eat that, go wash your hands". especially good advice if you can not distinguish between noodles and parasites that are just for storage in the fridge. so for me, everything in ORs is a mystery between anesthesia and the wake-up room ;) however, as a non-native to English I would really appreciate if you formed many words more clearly and talked a bit more slowly - would make it easier to listen to you, would you do that for us non-US-people please? :)
That's funny, this is the first video of his I watched almost right away I thought, wow he talks like a surgeon. Halting sometimes, but saying other words so fast you can barely understand them, it's not just a problem for a non-native speakers, it's a problem for patients
The root of the gender based clothing issue is placed squarely on the idea that any role in the operating room matters more or less than any other. No nurse? No surgery. No surgeon? No surgery. No cleaning staff? No surgery. No orderly? No surgery. Zooming out to a societal level of magnification of gender issues, all of society suffers from this idea that some roles matter more than others, granted, maybe a single president of the United States is more important overall to a single trauma surgeon, but are all presidents more important than all trauma surgeons? Remove one category hypothetically, then the other, tell me what society looks like without one or the other. Additionally the idea that only women have long hair and only men have short hair, is gender bias in and of itself.
The women have the option of cutting their hair if they want to wear a skull cap. As a woman, I'm SICK of hearing about this crap. If your hair is short man or woman, wear the skull cap. If it's long, man or women, wear the other cap.
I want my surgeon worrying about my surgery not what clothes to wear while cutting. I wish the would go back to uniforms in the hospital not sloppy looking scrubs.
So you're saying that i'd feel hesitant to become a surgeon because i'd have to wear a bigger cap which is usually worn by nurses? I don't think so. This wouldn't even cross my mind choosing my career.
Well, can any of you explain what types of barriers gender normative clothing imposes upon people trying to persue a career in the operating room? What if you walk into an op and you find that the surgeon is a female indicated by her clothing.. ok it's not common but what's the problem?? just carry on as normal.. I see that we have a potential problem in the imbalance between women and men in becoming surgeons, but I don't see how gender normative clothing contributes to that issue. I have no experience in the op and so I can't imagine how that could be an issue, but I'm happy to be enlightened...
@@daniaawni5180 I'm not in the medical field myself, but I imagine it's because the gendered clothing creates a visual hierarchy of sorts. Because women typically have to wear the larger hat while men typically don't, the hats immediately visually highlight the extreme skew in gender-it is immediately obvious visually that the one "in charge" (the surgeon) is male while those who aren't as "high" of a rank in the OR are women. That visual hierarchy with the hats then serves to reinforce people's stereotypes on who plays what roles in the OR, and does so in a way that places women in a more "subordinate" position. This could actually have a large impact, because whether we realize it or not, those types of images seep into "who" we think can fulfill certain roles. There are actually a lot of social psychology studies that have investigated that very topic (including using imagery actually from the medical field). Likewise, it could potentially feel female surgeons feel uncomfortable. Since I'm not in the medical field, I don't know if this would be the case or not, but let's say female surgeons wear the same or very similar uniforms to the nurses (including the hat). How many of their colleagues (particularly male surgeons) might assume those female surgeons are nurses when they actually aren't? I couldn't say for sure if this happens, but at the very least, it's certainly plausible. Perhaps that sort of thing is not enough to stop someone from entering the field, but if that were to happen, it would feel very degrading because to some it might feel like their male counterparts don't respect them. If there was no difference in what men and women wore though, you wouldn't have that problem.
The American College of Surgeons citing symbolism as a reason to keep skullcaps before doing any research on whether or not it was actually better for the patients gives me a serious ick 😒
I had to watch again. You are hilarious . I would love to see your blind reaction to viral medical themed or medical student Tik Toks . And tell us the cringe
I definitely wear a skull cap whenever one is available. The bouffants have so much extra fluff and space. The tactile feel of being able to secure the cap and feel it snug around my head is a better feel. Why are men no longer able to have something unique to themselves? If a woman wants to wear a skull cap, fine, let them cut their hair. To add to that, what is wrong with having gendered clothing? Just because men and women are different, it doesn't mean they are unequal. We shouldn't be afraid to make something like hair length a divisive issue.
I can't say exactly why, but claiming that somebody implied something - when actually you just incorrectly inferred something - strikes me as prideful and offends me.
@@whotakesallmynames I'm sorry that you feel that way. Maybe the OP didn't want to imply anything, but the phrase non-binary certainly does by definition. To be non binary Not belonging to those that are binary. Saying that one *is* non binary says that one belongs to a different fundamental category than those who are binary. And I'd say either one believes that all people are non-binary, then the sentence of the OP makes no sense, or one believes one is somehow a separate biological category. As if there were those born rigid as 0 or 1 and those that are positioned fluently in between 0 and 1. Which seems arrogant to me.
Disappointed you didn’t comment / discourage surgeon’s attitude and overall could make for a hostile OR atmosphere… to me those weren’t just “ complaints “ , they were rude and condescending remarks; not the way to speak to your “ team “ . I’m hoping the newer generation of surgeons and or folk as a whole can change this culture
Yeah no offense but I'm pretty sure the push-back against the unisex hair coverings had very little to do with the science given that most opinions I've seen on the matter mostly talk about how it's traditional and cool. That being said, if the material is the issue, why not just change the buffon caps to reusable cloth ones? Especially since they also tested disposable skullcaps and found that they had no discernable difference to the disposable bouffant caps, that's a heavy indicator that in this case the difference lies in the material. For that matter I'm surprised they didn't try to test a reusable cloth equivalent. That does suggest to me a bit of bias in the study set-up towards keeping the status quo.
Head cover disagreement related to GENDER…?! I was hoping the medical field did not emphasize this; OH, WELL…I have to remind myself this is MAINLY entertainment! (😳😃🙃).
Thank you for the comment. I have a fair bit of medical student advice videos on my channel and I will continue to make them. Med school can be a super stressful time. Good luck!
Hi there. If I can hop in. Breathe. Pray. Connect with others. Try to find the humor. Give yourself grace. We are all human… sadly each of as such will make errors. Praying you have a wonderful life full of service. Thank you for your hard work. old RN here. 💜
You know what strikes me most about the cap issue and there having been pushback? Seriously, what in the heavens had the overwhelmingly male staff push back at this at all, if not misogyny and their personal struggle to consider anything like patient safety or gender neutrality. It seems like their own comfort and misogyny based pride (aka not wanting "cute" caps that are typically worn by women) was more important than anything else. And that's unfortunately typical and quite disappointing :/ I can't imagine even pondering making a ruckus about a change in caps that countless of colleagues wear without issues. 🤦♀️
If someone is supposedly dead set on surgery but is put off enough by the alleged uniformity of head coverings as it pertains to the respective sexes then I would call into question their dedication to begin with. Saying a stereotype as silly as head coverings is tantamount to a legitimate barrier to entry and therefore grounds for sweeping changes to be made is akin to stating that the presence of attractive people in a workplace is a barrier to entry for unattractive people and then mandating that a quota of “ugly people” be hired. Inane
what makes you think a man wouldn't wear a flower cap hat ? It's only a controversial issue for those who are overly preoccupied by such rediculous issues. The guy's funny....who cares ? !
Just saying how about you start making the reusable product that covers the ears and guarantees there is no loose hairs... And you have the best of both.
I dunno, if their study suggested that the buffant cap was safer than the skull cap and common sense would suggest that covering all hair would reduce the risk of hair contamination, i don't really think that there was this political agenda here at least not as the initial primary motivator.
The flowery bouffant cap denotes the charge nurse, who rules all.
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I love how taking shots at administrators is what got you to crack a big smile
Female surgeon from Singapore here. I didn't know this thing about the caps was an issue! Certainly isn't in my hospital. Everyone just wears whichever one they prefer. I have long hair and usually wear the bouffant cap, but managed to tie up and stuff my hair into a skull cap several times before when the usual disposable bouffant cap i use was out of stock. We don't seem to have that few male nurses also, but perhaps that's because i'm in ortho.
I'm not in a hospital related career but I have also never understood why people care what other people wear 100% agree with @bundlymagpie
@@Yukinario. what people wear affects their job and role, as an engineer too u have to wear clothes which minimise risks etc.
Its not a fashion show, dress the safest and get the fucking work done
@@hiteshadhikari did you know that your immune system doesn't work as well in the cold operating room? It is solely for the comfort of the surgeon at the risk of the patient.
also, we would actually have to re do all our medical science inorder to remove the racial biases they had in the day.
@@pugdad2555 yeah, i would not like the person operating on me to be uncomfortable esp when surgeries can last quite few hrs
It sounds like a way to die
Yes, hat type WAS an issue recently. But it had more to do with nurses declaring a power battle: nurses LOVE telling MDs what to do. I admit the "skullcap tradition" argument was misguided, but the science proved the nurses wrong.
As a social scientist who focuses on workplace issues this was really interesting info about the social culture of medicine. Loved it!
Thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed the commentary
SAAAAAAME
Your reactions could be considered “dry” compared to the source material but I appreciate how your passion for what you do shines through.
As a squeamish person when it comes to medical things it’s comforting to know that there’s people like you out there if I ever need their help.
Our bouffant caps in way up northern Canada were green OR material like the skull caps.so our one long haired surgeon wore that and the 2 bald ones wore the skull caps and the female anesthetist with short hair wore the skull cap too. Us Nurses wore bouffants in green.Hated when the polka dot patterns and daisys came out, look like little house on the prairie in the OR.
That's terrible but funny, Many Blessings
I think those would be cute. Breaks the monotony of wearing plain stuff.
Imagine graduating medical school only to find that the barrier to entering a surgical field is the cap the surgeon is wearing. This sounds like a huge non-issue.
Totally agree. At the time. It was a huge issue
You do have a point. However, in an already extremely difficult field small barriers/benefits can make significant differences - if the small comfort of a patient thanking you every once in a while can be the reason you keep going to work, it stands to reason that the small barrier of being consistently treated differently based only on your professional attire could do the opposite.
Surgeons only hire people that look like them sadly.
like are you ignoring the fact that people are hired based on how they dress/look? There are alot of surgeons that can't find work solely due to the color of their skin. Why do you ignore that fact?
I was under the impression that surgery was extremely merit-based. The best man (or woman) gets the spot. You can’t BS your way through surgery like you can in internal medicine.
Hi! I've been watching your videos for a while now to listen to different perspectives of medical workers. It's really fun and educational to watch you react to Glaucomflecken's videos while giving insight on all the nuisances and jokes. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the comment. I enjoy making them. Hope to keep doing it
@@RichHilsden Not defending the first one either. It seems weird. If you're gonna think about reducing the risc of infection caused by the hair from the medical staff, why would you compare only 2 used hair protectors? Why not try to design something that will produce the desired result?
In OR I work at at least, the vast majority of our staff wears cloth scrub caps. The women will wear ponytail caps, skull caps, euro styles, etc. and most all of the males will wear a skull cap. I’ve never personally thought that it was a gender thing- if anything we all have found caps that encompass each of our individual personalities. Complimenting each others caps throughout the day is common place! Even poking fun at the surgeon wearing their favorite sports team that lost the night before. Perhaps it’s because my hospital does not have gender specific or really any policy on what caps we wear besides them not having offensive language or imagery. In fact, most everyone chooses to not wear the provided disposable caps because we think they make us look silly. It was very interesting to hear about the issue revolving caps and their interesting implications of unity and fairness in the OR. It makes me feel lucky that in my hospital caps are seen as personality pieces rather than gender/ importance factors. Love the reaction!
I can sum up the OR in a simple sentence that i often repeat to those that question some of the "OCD-like" behaviors that we exhibit around aseptic technique, ergonomics, instrument quality, patient positioning, temperature, lighting, etc.
We control the controllable because there's so much out of our control.
It can be authentic in the fact that a decreased risk of loose hairs would be safer for the patient while also having a secondary motive behind it that is sociopolitical
That is actually a fair point. Maybe I was being a little unfair with my comment on that. Deep down inside ARON and FACS both want what’s best for patients.
@@RichHilsden thank you for being someone who is willing to admit you were possibly wrong. That is something everyone should learn how to do & to be comfortable with doing when they are presented evidence/a line of reasoning that is convincing enough to at least entertain the possibility.
I always wore a hood and sweat band or tape to secure the front of the hood to my forehead. Why? Because it covered more skin and hair. Simple. If covering skin and hair is good, covering more of it is unlikely to be bad. I can reflect on a particular operation that I used to do for which national statistics indicated an infection rate of up to 9.5% I stopped counting at 1000 cases and had NO infections. Of course, I was a fanatic about aseptic technique and pt. prep. Minor alterations to what is often done in ORs can result in dramatically lower risks of infection.
I thoroughly enjoy your expansion of Dr. Glaucomflecken's videos. And I was one of those Canadians googling Trendelenburg. 😊
And hence I wear a skullcap-- I am a woman, and there has not been ONE DAY where I am accurately identified as such. Ironically, I've had more clashes with nurses than with surgeons-- and that's saying a LOT.
But why does the anesthesiologist wear a pink bouffant cap?
I went to the American College of Surgeons conference in Orlando and they looked super sophisticated and wealthy. They were very interested in continuing education and in our National Library of Medicine booth. They said we love you constantly.
I loved your last comment on the video. If you are choosing to drive a Porsche or a BMW to work, how much do you really have to complain about?
It's nice to see the other side of surgeons, every time I have had to go into surgery I have only gotten a small snapshot of their personality. In one case I never met the surgeon. I love how many of you have opened up on UA-cam, it will definitely make it less overwhelming in the future!! Great video!
No no no I actually LOVE your reactions and little side stories. I’m not even in the medical field but I find little facts like the whole larger hairnets or whatever vs the skullcap really interesting
This was the most informative “reaction “video” I have ever seen. Very interesting!
I’d like to see a trauma surgeon reaction to Dr Glaucomflecken’s “charting in the ER” video (aka the origin story of trauma surgeons). :-)
Frankly as a woman (not in medicine) I’m sure the bias is pervasive everywhere but I think mindset is the issue not the clothing. I wouldn’t love it if my job said everyone must wear a button up and pants. If I want to wear a dress or skirt then I can. We need to change how people think not what they wear. If a surgeon operating on me is more comfortable in a skull cap and it’s not dirty than let him. I care about living not about his hat.
As a former general surgery peri operative nurse I remember when this change to bouffants was pushed. Caused huge back last and now here we are back to reusable skull and bouffants
I remember how upset people were at the time. People were also confused as to the evidence behind the new rules
5:53 Inclusive is NOT "make everyone act/look the same." Inclusive is "respect/value all the different people."
Couldn’t agree more. Great comment!
so you wouldn't be mad if all nurses wore skull caps?
and also, that is exactly what the Surgeons are backing to not be inclusive. If they were, more men would have their hair longer. But surgeons only hire surgeons that look like them sadly.
@@pugdad2555 why are you so affected with short haired male doctors? does that dictate their skills? having long hair during a long operation can get hot, a surgeon certainly wouldn't want to have sweat running down from his head to his face. males on average get hot more quickly than females, hence why female surgeons can sport a longer hair and not sweat
as much as a male doctor with long hair, not only that but men sweat more on average than women. who would want their surgeons uncomfortable and sweating during an operation?
I do like the commentary/analysis - I felt like I learned something new. Thanks!
Male RN, I have a buzz cut and more hair on my forearm than the top of my head - I DON'T wear a bouffant. 🤣
Getting such Dexter vibe and I'm like 1 min I'm to it.....I don't mind it. I like how he breaks apart everything, even why they're wearing different hairdressing
A similar gender normative debate is currently happening in Australia, though for us its gender specific titles. As you know Mr. has been the preferred title for a male surgeon since surgery emerged as a profession in the UK. Female surgeons tend to go by Dr. as opposed to Mrs/Ms (though they can go by either) and have contended that Mr. is in fact sexist (though I don't find that argument particularly persuasive).
The original argument used to try and force everyone into going by Dr. was that it was worsening patient outcomes due to increased anxiety/stress due to confusion of not knowing if their surgeon was a real doctor (a ludicrous assertion). It was then quickly revealed that administrators and some female surgeons didn't like that males had their own title, now it is looking like the RACS is going to adopt the elimination of gender specific titles.
Super interesting. First, I didn’t know the Australians used Mr. Second, I though that calling surgeons Mr. was problematic back in the 90’s. I would be interested to learn more and see how that pans out.
Thanks for the watch and the comment
@@RichHilsden At least half of surgeons (more in private, less in public sectors) here go by Mr., Australia is a hugely diverse medical community, to completely spitball I'd say 10% of our doctors (mostly specialists) are from India and Pakistan and 15% are from the UK (they bring their traditions, Mr. is also the tradition for local Australian surgeons), since we all share the same 5-6 year MBBS/BMBCh training programs and JMO -> RMO -> Registrar -> fellow -> consultant pathways, so IMG accreditation isn't as complicated. The difference is since Australia is a semi-privatised medical industry, specialist consultants here still earn upwards of $600,000, so we have many IMGs from the UK migrate here to escape NHS compensation.
It's definitely been problematic in the eyes of some for a long time, however, in the last few years those concerns have turned into actions, to the point its likely the Mr. title will be entirely banned for public sector surgeons (possible even private through the college) within the next year or two.
This is wild. I had never heard of anything like this! In my country everyone just goes by Dr. regardless of gender. Never really gave it much thought to be honest. Most patients are just happy to have a competent surgeon with a good reputation, they don't really care if you call yourself " DR. MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST".
In the U S, it’s Dr.s everywhere.
Good grief! Aren't there more important things to worry about like truly optimizing all aspects of pt. care?
you are the first doctor ive come across giving a serious explaination of the video. if the surgeon is complaining about the hospital admins taking money for themselves, and surgeon is driving around in bmw and porsche.......maybe I need to become a hospital admin....
I came to see a reaction video, end up learning new things, as they say surgeons are rude sometimes but you can learn alot from them lol
I can’t help but educate. Thanks for the view and the comment
I didn’t know tony hawk took up surgery
It was just funny watching you try to control your facial expressions 🤣
Female surgical tech here, I always rock the bouffant cap~
There was a traditional look of the surgeon before the skull cap too and guess what it died out because we got a better option
It’s absolutely the dry humorless takes, please keep it up!
🤩🤩🤩🤣🤣 this was absolutely brilliant...thorough, perfect editing, fun facts and I died at the end.
As a patient having had 20 surgeries, this is fascinating and funny as Hell!
(Major back surgery adding 6 Monarch screws, 2 sacroiliac's adding 3 more screws to each side. 7 major abdominal surgeries for bowel obstructions, 3 right arm surgeries for double staph infection, 7 more various other body parts, lmao!)
Are you a cyborg yet?
I'm working on it!!! LMAOOO at 64 years young! Walk mile to 3 to 5 miles a day depending on errands. My orthopedic back surgeon, when I asked what happens if I don't do the back surgery replied, "pick the wheelchair you want to spend the rest of your life in". I replied, I'll do the surgery!. He said it would be in 2 weeks, took 30 days to get scheduled. Best decision I ever made!
Yes! I 💗 your comment at the very end: While yes, it's true that when you have a solid team, you like to complain/vent/rant, how much do you REALLY have to complain about when you can have a choice of ride to work: Beemer or Porsche! 🤔Not too much! Love your videos & how your reactions give even more insight into these hilarious vids & what practicing medicine really entails.
Great video, this was pretty funny. Keep the fire content coming!
Well I like that you explain to those of us not in the field understand why this is funny. While most is obvious there's things I was unaware of.
The outcome of a scientific experience is determined based on the the
questions you ask.
And the questions you are allowed to ask are often based on whatever the people funding the experiment want the outcome to be.
Thanks, the backstory on the hats and Trendelenberg (sp?) was awesome!! 👏👏
Regarding your hat comment… don’t forget the sunglasses of the radiology guy. Both pair 😎
I also like the toilet paper roll microscope for the pathologist. Pure genius
Theyre also used to be a tradition of not washing hands in hospitals well unless a tradition and more of they just didn't do it and then there was pushback whenever doctors were told to wash their hands especially whenever they were doing surgery. And now every doctor and surgeon out there knows that especially when doing surgery that if they don't wash their hands they could definitely be fired and they're okay with that if they're not fired they would at least get a reprimand and they're okay with that so basically they're just like every other human and they are afraid of change especially change that puts them on an even ground with people that they see as inferior even if it's just subconsciously
I really enjoyed your breakdown and take on the head covering issue.
Thank you I appreciate the comment!
One of the only Dr G. reaction videos that takes the comedy seriously, no laughing along with the characterizations or the poking fun at his own specialty. Frankly it sounds like the doc is sort of defensive, and less entertained...which reinforces the surgeon stereotype. I have seen other docs react more good-naturedly and laugh along. While I learned about table positions and head coverings, it was too much (and which I had already googled anyway) of this video IMHO. 3 stars.
Ppl with long hair: Buffant cap
Ppl with short hair: Cap
"But women mostly have longer hair and it's unfair that they have to dress differently" ... cut your hair? As a guy with long hair I wear a buffant cap and don't freak out about being "pushed into a different gender" or sth like that...
Budding MS3 applying gen surg, keep up the good work👊
Thank you for the comment.
Much appreciated
Why am I doubting the doctors' study? When they already knew the results they wanted to get. A study should usually be done by an objective individual.
I will admit, I thought the same thing. Definitely a risk of bias. That being said, experimental evidence is a lot stronger than opinion and that is all AORN was offering.
Your intro that's got a dark setting and gentle music seems like you are an R&B DJ
Fyi Doc,
I have a Master's Degree in Counseling and promptly recognized the dynamics of hospitals matching the criteria for "Addictive Family Dynamics".
The Surgeons (often character disordered - narcissistic men) are the alcoholic/addict, a person with infantile psychological development.
Female nurses can be flaming Codependents/ enablers, often because they have romantic and/or sexual attachments with the powerful Docs, which makes them feel powerful / important.
The patients?
Well they are obviously the scapegoated "identified patient".
IF something "went wrong" it's ALL their fault!!!
Also, 15% of healthcare workers are chemically dependent!!!
I had an experience in a top 20 hospital in the USA.
My friend was admitted for a gastro surgery, thru the ED, the following morning.
She was scheduled for 8:30 and I was directed to be there at 6:30 am as her support person. Then the (narcissistic) surgeon says the dreaded words: "tomorrow is my birthday".
Why are those words "dreaded"?
Well in my experience the narcissist's inner child wants to feel "really, REALLY special", not just every day but ESPECIALLY on their birthday.
That typically means lots of sexual activity for them ESPECIALLY first thing in the am.
I ask the surgeon "do you want to bump it back to later"?
He says "no, I'll make it".
I arrive at 6:30 am to my friends room.
We are anxiously awaiting her to be transported to pre-op...and no one comes.
For hours.
Except the lying nurse.
At first the nurse says "we're going to be a little late".
Later this Codependent nurse starts to insist "the patient doesn't have a scheduled OR time". ( Really? How do you think surgery order is decided?!?
Throwing dice?)
Finally, we were told "that pre-op has been REALLY busy".
See how she LIES to protect the surgeon/alcoholic/addict?!?
Not once, but multiple times?
Finally, at noon were taken to pre- op.
I casually ask "has it been busy down here today".
"No. It's been kind of slow".
Next I'm taken to a waiting area and check in. The woman at the desk says "we were expecting you at 8:30".
(Yeah, I know, but you just confirmed it.)
Following the surgery, the surgeon reports "it all went well, she's doing fine"..."any other questions"?
Yeah.
How come the surgery got started so late?
Well you'd think I accused the man of being drunk while performing surgery...he used all of the air one narcissist could muster and willed me into silence.
"I'm NOT going to talk about that".
I imagine you're not.
So what do you do IF you are in a similar position?
You write up the experiences, the names of the personnel, their position, witnesses present, and date and approximate time...then email or FAX it to the hospital administrator. For good measure you can send a hard copy via registered mail.
Every act I identified is a potential LIABILITY issue for the hospital. A good administrator will thank you.
Medical personnel should be able to wear any standard safe attire in which they feel comfortable. Some facilities have a color or uniform (military) for which you have to agree tp compromise in advance. But you are going to have a happier staff with less turnover if you don't micromanage their attire.
Interesting video from the perspective of a pathologist.
After you said “how much does he have to complain about” I thought you might say something clever and anticipated a punch line haha. Keep it classy love it.
I’m curious, what would you have said? Thanks for the comment
@@RichHilsden not sure I’m not clever haha.
I definitely have expectations about what genders I'm going to see in certain roles but, whenever I see the opposite gender from what I expected, I think 'Oh, this person was really driven to be here and no amount of societal persuasion was going to change their minds' and that can sometimes produce even more confidence in them.
didn't expect over half of the vedio to be on hats when I clicked on it
You’re so..., weird dude I love it
I just discovered your channel, as a surgical tech I really enjoyed this video. Have you done any of Stevejoes videos yet, he’s really funny. I’d like to see your reaction to them~
Wouldn't it make more sense for everybody to wear the cap that fits their hairstyle?
in the beginning you asked what people liked about your reaction videos.
what I like is that - as a non med person from a different continent - I get information about medical puns I do not understand or that might not happen in my country. all doctors in my family are non-patient-doctors, from hygiene/microbiology or pathology so what I usually hear is "do not eat that, go wash your hands".
especially good advice if you can not distinguish between noodles and parasites that are just for storage in the fridge.
so for me, everything in ORs is a mystery between anesthesia and the wake-up room ;)
however, as a non-native to English I would really appreciate if you formed many words more clearly and talked a bit more slowly - would make it easier to listen to you, would you do that for us non-US-people please? :)
That's funny, this is the first video of his I watched almost right away I thought, wow he talks like a surgeon. Halting sometimes, but saying other words so fast you can barely understand them, it's not just a problem for a non-native speakers, it's a problem for patients
If it helps, you can try slowing the speed of the video.
I do that for some of the video creators on UA-cam who talk too fast.
The root of the gender based clothing issue is placed squarely on the idea that any role in the operating room matters more or less than any other.
No nurse? No surgery. No surgeon? No surgery. No cleaning staff? No surgery. No orderly? No surgery.
Zooming out to a societal level of magnification of gender issues, all of society suffers from this idea that some roles matter more than others, granted, maybe a single president of the United States is more important overall to a single trauma surgeon, but are all presidents more important than all trauma surgeons? Remove one category hypothetically, then the other, tell me what society looks like without one or the other.
Additionally the idea that only women have long hair and only men have short hair, is gender bias in and of itself.
There are skull caps with hair pockets.
For goodness sake,your taking life WAaaaaaay to serious,NOBODY should waste time bothering about who wears what hat!!. It's a HAT.😅
The women have the option of cutting their hair if they want to wear a skull cap. As a woman, I'm SICK of hearing about this crap. If your hair is short man or woman, wear the skull cap. If it's long, man or women, wear the other cap.
Here’s an idea. Everyone who works surgery shaves their head.
It wasn't an issue, until someone that spends zero time in an operating room, said it was an issue. Of that you can be sure.
Are you talking about the caps? Because the whole thing was kicked off by the professional body of OR nurses.
I want my surgeon worrying about my surgery not what clothes to wear while cutting. I wish the would go back to uniforms in the hospital not sloppy looking scrubs.
So you're saying that i'd feel hesitant to become a surgeon because i'd have to wear a bigger cap which is usually worn by nurses? I don't think so. This wouldn't even cross my mind choosing my career.
This is not at all what he's saying. I'd advise you to watch the video again.
I don't think it would be the people entering the field who'd carry on cranky so much as the old hands with their "habits" set.
You'd be that "C-student" in medical school, wouldn't you?
Well, can any of you explain what types of barriers gender normative clothing imposes upon people trying to persue a career in the operating room?
What if you walk into an op and you find that the surgeon is a female indicated by her clothing.. ok it's not common but what's the problem?? just carry on as normal..
I see that we have a potential problem in the imbalance between women and men in becoming surgeons, but I don't see how gender normative clothing contributes to that issue.
I have no experience in the op and so I can't imagine how that could be an issue, but I'm happy to be enlightened...
@@daniaawni5180 I'm not in the medical field myself, but I imagine it's because the gendered clothing creates a visual hierarchy of sorts. Because women typically have to wear the larger hat while men typically don't, the hats immediately visually highlight the extreme skew in gender-it is immediately obvious visually that the one "in charge" (the surgeon) is male while those who aren't as "high" of a rank in the OR are women. That visual hierarchy with the hats then serves to reinforce people's stereotypes on who plays what roles in the OR, and does so in a way that places women in a more "subordinate" position. This could actually have a large impact, because whether we realize it or not, those types of images seep into "who" we think can fulfill certain roles. There are actually a lot of social psychology studies that have investigated that very topic (including using imagery actually from the medical field).
Likewise, it could potentially feel female surgeons feel uncomfortable. Since I'm not in the medical field, I don't know if this would be the case or not, but let's say female surgeons wear the same or very similar uniforms to the nurses (including the hat). How many of their colleagues (particularly male surgeons) might assume those female surgeons are nurses when they actually aren't? I couldn't say for sure if this happens, but at the very least, it's certainly plausible. Perhaps that sort of thing is not enough to stop someone from entering the field, but if that were to happen, it would feel very degrading because to some it might feel like their male counterparts don't respect them. If there was no difference in what men and women wore though, you wouldn't have that problem.
"The OR team is the most efficient in the hospital"
Code blue team b like bruh...
Definitely spent my time on the code team. Not even close. If I were to have a code, personally as a patient, I would want it to happen in the OR
Because if you’re not a doctor you need someone to explain the jokes 😂
Outside of the doctor who's doing the surgery or procedure, I won't remember within seconds who is who as in the scrub tech, nurse, etc.
If the headwear is a barrier to someone become a surgeon then they should try.
Geez Doc. I bet you are a hit at parties.
The American College of Surgeons citing symbolism as a reason to keep skullcaps before doing any research on whether or not it was actually better for the patients gives me a serious ick 😒
I had to watch again. You are hilarious . I would love to see your blind reaction to viral medical themed or medical student Tik Toks . And tell us the cringe
Post a link the the comment section of something specific you would like me to react to. I would love to see it.
I definitely wear a skull cap whenever one is available. The bouffants have so much extra fluff and space. The tactile feel of being able to secure the cap and feel it snug around my head is a better feel. Why are men no longer able to have something unique to themselves? If a woman wants to wear a skull cap, fine, let them cut their hair. To add to that, what is wrong with having gendered clothing? Just because men and women are different, it doesn't mean they are unequal. We shouldn't be afraid to make something like hair length a divisive issue.
I think canonically (since the introduction of OB/GYN) only OB/GYN is female in the Dr G universe
I feel so seen by the bouffant vs skull cap discussion as a non binary med student 😭
I can't say exactly why, but claiming to be non binary - implying others are - strikes me as somewhat prideful and offends me.
I can't say exactly why, but claiming that somebody implied something - when actually you just incorrectly inferred something - strikes me as prideful and offends me.
@@whotakesallmynames I'm sorry that you feel that way. Maybe the OP didn't want to imply anything, but the phrase non-binary certainly does by definition.
To be non binary
Not belonging to those that are binary.
Saying that one *is* non binary says that one belongs to a different fundamental category than those who are binary.
And I'd say either one believes that all people are non-binary, then the sentence of the OP makes no sense, or one believes one is somehow a separate biological category. As if there were those born rigid as 0 or 1 and those that are positioned fluently in between 0 and 1. Which seems arrogant to me.
@@cauchyschwarz3295 these semantics seem arrogant to me.
@@whotakesallmynames and how is that? Do you actually have a point or do you just want to offend?
Disappointed you didn’t comment / discourage surgeon’s attitude and overall could make for a hostile OR atmosphere… to me those weren’t just “ complaints “ , they were rude and condescending remarks; not the way to speak to your “ team “ . I’m hoping the newer generation of surgeons and or folk as a whole can change this culture
Yeah no offense but I'm pretty sure the push-back against the unisex hair coverings had very little to do with the science given that most opinions I've seen on the matter mostly talk about how it's traditional and cool.
That being said, if the material is the issue, why not just change the buffon caps to reusable cloth ones?
Especially since they also tested disposable skullcaps and found that they had no discernable difference to the disposable bouffant caps, that's a heavy indicator that in this case the difference lies in the material.
For that matter I'm surprised they didn't try to test a reusable cloth equivalent. That does suggest to me a bit of bias in the study set-up towards keeping the status quo.
Notice this guy never laughs at the video. And he has no idea he's being mocked.
Go ahead -- ask the surgeon to read the word CENTIMETER out loud. Then laugh at them.
Head cover disagreement related to GENDER…?! I was hoping the medical field did not emphasize this; OH, WELL…I have to remind myself this is MAINLY entertainment! (😳😃🙃).
Same goes for neurosurgery. It looks complicated. .
Hi I am a big fan of glockenfkacken funny video . I am in my first year in med school India . Please suggest me some stress management tips
Thank you for the comment. I have a fair bit of medical student advice videos on my channel and I will continue to make them. Med school can be a super stressful time. Good luck!
Hi there. If I can hop in. Breathe. Pray. Connect with others. Try to find the humor. Give yourself grace. We are all human… sadly each of as such will make errors. Praying you have a wonderful life full of service. Thank you for your hard work. old RN here. 💜
Do you wear the bouffant cap in your OR?
I don’t care if clothes are gender normative attire. Just do what ever needs to be done to keep the pt safe.
As a dude, I wouldn't care what the ladies wear in the OR, as long as they are appropriate and comfortable.
What seemed to be happening in 2016 was a concern about what the dudes were wearing
Screw unisex. You like that and it covers you? use it. You like the other one? Does it cover your hair? Great! Use it.
Alternative title: how to overthink head coverings.
My whole youtube channel could be alternatively titled how to over think!
You know what strikes me most about the cap issue and there having been pushback? Seriously, what in the heavens had the overwhelmingly male staff push back at this at all, if not misogyny and their personal struggle to consider anything like patient safety or gender neutrality. It seems like their own comfort and misogyny based pride (aka not wanting "cute" caps that are typically worn by women) was more important than anything else. And that's unfortunately typical and quite disappointing :/ I can't imagine even pondering making a ruckus about a change in caps that countless of colleagues wear without issues. 🤦♀️
please keep doing video's comments
Surgeons should go back to wearing those Black Death crow masks
I 💯 support this
Imagine stretching a 30 second tiktok into a 12 minute video
If someone is supposedly dead set on surgery but is put off enough by the alleged uniformity of head coverings as it pertains to the respective sexes then I would call into question their dedication to begin with. Saying a stereotype as silly as head coverings is tantamount to a legitimate barrier to entry and therefore grounds for sweeping changes to be made is akin to stating that the presence of attractive people in a workplace is a barrier to entry for unattractive people and then mandating that a quota of “ugly people” be hired. Inane
what makes you think a man wouldn't wear a flower cap hat ? It's only a controversial issue for those who are overly preoccupied by such rediculous issues. The guy's funny....who cares ? !
I think it’s because you got a Jeep voice don’t use the mic with the eyepatch you know you gotta do boys keep it deep
So Karen controls hair coverings. Was a Karen responsible for nurses not wearing their school caps and whites?
Weirdest analysis of a video I’ve ever watched.
Just saying how about you start making the reusable product that covers the ears and guarantees there is no loose hairs... And you have the best of both.
I dunno, if their study suggested that the buffant cap was safer than the skull cap and common sense would suggest that covering all hair would reduce the risk of hair contamination, i don't really think that there was this political agenda here at least not as the initial primary motivator.
He spent like half the video on hats
Forget the caps, lets have gender normative surgical instruments...