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The BEST Way to Transcribe a Solo
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2015
- My four-step process for transcribing music:
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When I saw the thumbnail I thought he was holding a bottle of wine and was like "yup, thats how I do it"
Amazing advice. I am struggling with Transcribing at the moment. It is incredibly tedious. But, it must be done.
best thing you can do!
Amen brother
What instrument? Me personally guitar.
Great Video! Excuse me for chiming in, I am interested in your opinion. Have you tried - Riddleagan Smart Hands Remedy (do a google search)? It is a good one of a kind guide for learning piano fast without the hard work. Ive heard some incredible things about it and my close friend Aubrey at very last got excellent results with it.
So so so so helpful. Just transcribed the alto solo from Mingus's Moanin' (Blues and Roots)
+Oscar The posher Nice!
What a nice, tight, clear piece of teaching. Thanks much
An excellent lesson. Thanks very much, Jeff.
Thank you, Mal! Glad you liked it.
cool tips Jeff, thanks! I also often play along and try to exactly match what Miles or whoever I'm listening to is doing, all the nuances. Later, at a gig say, I don't try to copy or play exactly anymore, but retain the "feeling" about how a masters plays.
thanks so much
It's great learning theory and stuff like this from the perspective of a jazz musician.
+8PedroFerreira I enjoy teaching it. Thanks for watching!
Tnx!!!
Jeff, you rock ... I mean JAZZ ! I play jazz guitar, and prefer watching and learning from piano and brass players, you guys are on some different shit ! Listened to Hendrix, Segovia, Montgomery, Pass and similar cats, since the 80's, this is refreshing ...
+God's Oracle Thanks so much for the comment! Glad to know this is helping!
You have a very varied taste anyway, that's nice.
Got it! Best advice I have heard on how to transcribe! You're a great teacher. Thank you!
Oh no the jazz police was coming for Jeff at the beginning of the video haha
Thank you , this was very helpful video! the best video on transcribing I have seen!
So glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Thanks!!! Just transcribed eruption by Van Halen
Greetings, Jeff! Learning LOTS of useful info from you, brother! Just wanted to take the time out to say 'thanks' for your wonderful videos! Will be purchasing some of your method books when the finances permit. Thanks again!
Good system sir.
Thank you, Filip!
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
Congrats for lessons, thank you!!!
+Стоян Велчев Thank YOU!
Valuable 👌
very nice and important point
great advice my friend.......keep up the good work
Very helpful. Thanks!
Love your videos. Do you have perfect pitch? thx FS
Hey Jeff, great lesson. Thanks!
Thanks, Evan!
thank you!
Thanks.
Lo de asignarle a cada nota un numero es un buen truco.
Gracias!
So I'm trying to transpose a solo with many runs of 16th notes in it. Do you think it would be bad technique to slow down the recording? Will that make me a worse transcriber since I'm making it easier?
Chase Lanier I personally slow it down when I really can’t hear the pitches up to tempo. As a last resort. Besides that, I try to find easier solos to transcribe:)
I think it’s perfectly normal to slow the recording down for learning fast passages, in fact one will learn more thoroughly that way. The great Lennie Tristano had his students sing solos with the LP playing at half speed, and only when they had fully internalized it at half speed would he let them go to full speed.
Slowing down change the pitch no? So I think it depends of how much you slow it down. A slight -small change could not be harmful and of a great help.
Jeff i dont know if your going to answer this but in transcribing how do you differentiate if its a scale, arpeggio or outside playing, your transcribing a record that was notorious for all of the above mentioned. So my question is how to you make sense of what you transcribed like "Oh this is in Pentatonic scale" or "Oh this is an arpeggio.." or like "Ah thats Dorian, Ionian..."
Its a silly question but something that would be vital to know cause then you get o see what the mindset was of the artist.
really good!
Watching Jeff look on intensively is amazing. XD
This is late, but this is AWESOME! Man, thank you!
What should you do once you have learned to play it in every position, guitar. Should i search for the theory behind each of the licks?
Thanks for the comment, Ben. I would take time to figure out what is you like about the lick and then see if you can take that nugget of information and develop it into lines of your own. That may include doing some additional theory analysis.
Wuw! Good technique!
maybe you can help me is it true that the alto saxophone someone can have the sound. like tenor like tenor?
Thank you Jeff. very useful, but truly difficult. all my work is fragmentary, no one is in whole piece. @___@
+SC Cheng The struggle is real!!! Be patient with yourself. You're right, this stuff is HARD, but it's a great feeling when you notice it getting easier. Keep workin!
I transcribed Hank Jones' rendition of Oh What A Beautiful Morning if anyone would like it.
Hey Jeff, thanks for the lesson. I'm interested in doing this for Love's Serenade by Ramsey Lewis for Alto Sax. What Ramsey Lewis does on piano is masterful and there is nothing better. However, I feel it will sound incredible played on the Alto Sax. Mind you, I've only been practicing the Sax a short period of time but been a fan of Jazz for many years with it being played by my father. Thanks for any input you suggest in making this challenge a success.
Best of luck with this! It sounds like a great undertaking.
what if it's in minor of in modes or secondary dominants? since we do not have Perfect Pitch we don't know that
I've been struggling for quite some time working on ear training and I think I've narrowed down on my core issues a) my inability to sing the correct pitch, and b) remembering my tonic note. What kind of beginner songs do you recommend?
When you are hearing, singing and saying the scale tone, are you singing the scale degree of EACH chord or for the key center. In other words, if if you are in Bb in Rhythm changes and get to the bridge, and hear a D on the D7, do you say 1 or do you say 3? If your answer is to say 3, if the chords are A-7 / D7 do you 11 over the A-7 or do you think D7 the whole time? ...not trying to make it more difficult,... just trying apply it the way you like to think of it all. I realize there is no "right" answer and the important steps are the hearing and singing and playing part of it.
Hi Jeff, on average how many transcriptions does it take before an individual is able to start hearing melodic and soloing ideas in his/her head?
I have perfect pitch, making transcribing easier. As of now, I’ve transcribed:
1) piano solo from Freddie Freeloader
2) piano solo from Caravan by Tommy Flanagan
3) piano solo from Afternoon in Paris by Cedar Walton
4) Waltz for Debby by Bill Evans
5) Piano solo from C jam blues by Oscar Peterson
6) saxophone solo from Blue Bossa by Dexter Gordon
7) saxophone solo from Au Privave by Charlie Parker
8) saxophone solo from Confirmation by Charlie Parker
However, I feel that I’m still unable to improvise well. How many more jazz standards do I need to transcribe before I can hear melodies in my head?
I stopped the video because I thought a car was bipping outside.
Jeff would you please recomend a couple bluessy solos played in alto ? (i find it helps with my sound if i transcribe alto sax solos)
Anyone know any free transcribing softwares?
When you sing 'one one one' you're singing the pitch (in terms of Eb) G right?
Mar Mar yes
Does anyone know any good transcribing softwares?
Why the melody you sing is 61 672 in the key of Bb? It should be 6 1 6 7b 2and 7b is out of b flat key. Is there any difference?
Hi
A question: during uni times I used to aim transcribe a full solo over a period of a week, but now it seems almost impossible to achieve that goal due to music commitments, do you find more useful with your busy agenda to transcribe little fragments on a daily basis (when you have time) and work them during a couple of days? Also do you keep track of those fragments so you can always go back to them in the future?
Jeff how would you apply the scale degree thing to something that changes constantly? I'm trying to learn bebop scales in 12 keys and it would be handy to think of the tunes in scale degrees but are you doing that over the hey to the tune or of the moving chord changes?
Your videos are great. Thanks!
Yeah I would like to know that too
Great advices! Could you tell me how do you figure out chords by ear?
How about finding the changes? Is that what you do after you transcribe, or is it not important?
Transcribing the changes is extremely important. It helps to follow that bassline first. Let me know how it goes!
Thanks!
It is easy to think on 1 while you are singing over the I chord, but when it changes, do you still retain the I or figure it out from the root of the next chord, or maybe both? When it goes to the IV for example the 1 doesn't have that releasing feeling, it changes its meaning. I ask that because I'm really stuck on playing over changes Anyway, thank you very much
Thanks man, i think that in the end it is more a question of sound memory, i mean to play again and again over a I-IV sequence and see how it feels
Hello Jeff, I am a bit confused. What is your opinion in terms of what to transcribe? Do you think it matters what you're going to transcribe as long as you like the sound of it and you can use it?
I would transcribe whatever it is that you enjoy, however if there's a type of music you're looking to improve upon, I would try to transcribe music within the same style.
Great video! How should I count the beats in a solo? I have an incredibly hard time doing that but I'm doing fine with the notes. Thanks!
Hi Jeff, First I wanna excuse me for my very bad english.
I really love your videos, and on that one : "the best way to transcribe a solo" i wanna ask you how to find the chords of the solo, in this videos you tell us but i have problems to find em.
I also wanna ask you, if we transcribe a solo, when we transpose, we can keep the fact the solo is for complete key, or we should learn each lines per chord, for example : we have a song in key of G, and we like a line played on G7 , so that line we can play it only on the seventh chord or we can play it on the key of G whatever the chord played.
Thank You
Logistical question: do you work through the entire solo before transposing, or transpose into all 12 keys phrase by phrase?
+Muhammad Dawjee usually the former, but sometimes I won’t bother transcribing the show solo and just figure out the parts I like most and go through the transposing process on those select lines
Excellent! Thank you - I was getting bored of working in the same key and only about an eighth through a solo - it's a modal based tune which makes it even more tedious, but I'll stick it out, I think there's something to learn about how the soloist builds the structure of his solo in that harmonic context.
how is your roy doing
Few light bulbs went on my head ( I dunno if I used the phrase corretcly )
Can you do a video on figuring out the chord progression to a tune?
Yes. I plan on it
Is it a good idea to imitate and transcribe a saxophone-solo like this if you are a pianist?
Or would it be better to find a solo from your own instrument?
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Hello Jeff. Very good information. Thanks! However, I just want to write down the corresponding sheet music for my alto sax. What's the need for all that transposing?
application. soloing. having the riff available to you in....duh.... 12 keys. Because, duh, all songs are not in Bb or C.... duh?
I feel so insecure about my pitch when I sing...
how does one do pitch singing cus uhhhh I'm completely lost
How do you figure out the key of a solo.
Great advice! I am about to dive into transcribing process. However, there are some tunes very fast can you suggest any slow down app?
I don't know if VLC app does, but it works pretty well on pc
so I'm good with the singing part and figuring out the notes, but I'm amateur how do you figure out original key of recording besides Google lol
Ebony Evans listen if you can find the roots of the chords and see if theres special patterns that matches a key classic example 2-5-1
I waited the whole video for you to play the transcribed solo in full :>(
+jeremiah3754 That's for you to do! Get to it :-)
Hi Jeff, what neck strap do you use?
I think it's the one that came with my Yamaha soprano sax!
Honestly it looks kind of painful. If it works for you great but I would highly recommend the $10 investment of a padded or even leather neck-strap.
Anytune Pro software is the best.
Hi Jeff! I'm a bass player, and I have a hard time hearing the bass on a few tracks. Any advice for if you have a hard time hearing the music you're looking to transcribe?
+Dominic Dellamarino Hi Dominic, Great question. Hearing the bass notes on some tracks can be tough. As with most things, time, experience, and practice will help the most. You can try EQing the bass up and the treble down to help focus your attention on the bass parts. Selective listening is a skill in itself. I suggest listening through entire album only paying attention to one instrument, like the bass, or the snare drum. It takes a lot of focus, but is well worth the effort. Let me know how it goes!
Do you use intervals or how do you just instantly know the scale degrees?
I have the same question he figured it out in matter of seconds
thanks man! If you use numbers are these from the current chord in a particular measure or do you take them from within the key the pice is written?
key of the song. If the song is in Bb , Bb is one, even if the chord is different.
I like your methods but how do I go about transcribing runs and transcribing stuff at fast speeds
+Miller Sax King Patience. Listening over and over and over again. Try to get one note at a time. When all else fails, there are music slow downer apps out there, but hold off as long as you can before going there.
There is a button on You tube where you can slow down the music. click on the gear wheel at the bottom of your video and a speed control should come up.
Would you recommend this method rather than simply looking up already transcribed solos online?
supersalsa Absolutely. There is no substitute for figuring it out for yourself. You will get 100 times more out of the solo by transcribing it with your own ears, no matter how long it takes, versus just reading a transcription by someone else. Good luck!
I agree totally. A lot of the new generation want's everything quick and easy. They like to take too many short cuts. But you know well as I do there is nothing magical about this stuff you have to put some time in. The reward will be great.
Jeff, can you please tell me, if you know, what kind of inexpensive equipment or app I can use for transcribing music that can slow down a fast solo and also loop one which doesn't change the pitch of the notes!
tunetranscriber.com
Thank you so much!
Sounded like the Jazz police were after you in the beginning. Haha.
Why not start with the actual melody of the piece before concentrating on a solo ?
I have no idea how to do this
You should've shown an example of where you were wrong on singing the notes. You knew it was a 6-1, etc. etc., but what do I do if I'm wrong? Just go work it out at the Piano?
I'm talking for piano, if that makes a difference.
For what it's worth I agree, if you can't sing it you won't be able to play it.
But did you really say 'repurposing'?
What?
andrea22213 Hi Andrea, thanks for watching. By "repurposing" I mean being able to incorporate whatever it is you're transcribing into your own playing and being able to do so in any key. Does that make sense?
I am failing in the third step....
Send me 1saxo
u look like flume
if you play jazz and you do not know the album the king of blues .............. moment
or of silence haHAHAHAHAHA
kind of blue?