Shinko 705 Tire Review
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The Urban Monk explains why he thinks the Shinko 705 motorcycle tire is the best choice for his riding style. There are many adventure touring tire options to choose from. He offers some pros and cons to these Shinkos.
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I bought an old V Strom that had worn Shinko 705s on it. I figured I wouldn't ride trail with a 1000 cc bike anyway so I put Conti's Road Attack 3's on it.
In a word? 'WOW'! Just WOW!!
I can corner so much better, I can just ride with so much more relaxed confidence.
Not to say the Shinko's were a bad tire, that wouldn't be fair, especially when my rear was worn nearly flat and my front was scallopped pretty bad. But if you're mostly a road runner, I couldn't say enough about the Conti's. It's like a whole 'nother bike! No joke!
BTW, I bought a NoMar tire changer and did the change with the original style hold down dogs.
Not recommended, to say the least, but it taught me something you might find helpful:
Using a ratchet strap to keep the rim from spinning worked really well.
Thank UM - good video. I just swapped my Anakee IIIs for Shinko 705s on my BMW 700GS. They look good to me, and I'm pleasantly amazed at the mileage you are getting on them. I've gone through lots of tires on lots of different bikes over the years, and that is excellent mileage you are getting. I spent $175 for BOTH front and back. If they stick as well as I hope they do, my next tire change will be a no-brainer.
Axle955 Thanks for watching. Let us all know what you think after you get them on and broken in. I am getting great mileage and I haven't had trouble with sticking in average riding conditions. Admittedly the go-fast sport bike guys are passing me when I'm canyon carving, but I'm moving fast enough to be having fun and they've always stuck well. The one place I've never been with them is muddy conditions. I've read they're not great there, but they're not intended to be. They are an 80% street 20% dirt (not mud) tire. I'm mainly a commuter and they do that job brilliantly.
I use E705s on my stock V-Strom 650. The rears last about 4k mi., the fronts about 12k mi. These tires change the final drive ratio vs. the TWs, making it taller, having higher rpm shift-points and slightly slower acceleration. Their rounded profiles make tip-in when leaning into curves less linear and more aggressive, which can become tiring on long curvy road trips. I run them slightly under-inflated, about 27psi front and 32 psi rear. There's more road-snot related drama at 33 psi up front; the contact patch may be smaller. They are amazing on gravel; evidently the grooves trap individual pieces and use them to plant the tire like studs. Def a thumbs-up!
sethdog1000 This is excellent information to share with the community. Thanks!
Urban Monk, you nailed it. I put the Shinko 705's on my V Strom 650 and got the effects you perfectly described. Switched from Metzeler Tourance tires to the 705's and went from a sporty, agile feeling bike to a heavier feel , especially in the turns. I'll get used to it. I got 8000 miles out of both Metzeler's, we'll see how the Shinko's do. Thanks for an accurate review.
eighttracklover1 Thanks. Yes, you'll get used to it and it gets lighter as the rubber wears away (sheds mass). I'm literally changing my front out right now as I type this in prep for my ride up to The Quail next weekend. Have just under 30k miles on it. It is now badly cupped and getting noisy, but that developed only in the last 2k miles or so. They've been good to me on the road and good for my wallet. Savings to fund my cafe racer project! Let us know how you like them long term.
Urban Monk TV Will do
@@eighttracklover1 how have your shinko 705's faired so far?
Excellent info Gents. I've done 100000 miles on WeeStrom in 15yrs almost exclusively on Metzeler Tourances.
I get 12500 miles from a front and 10000 from a rear (generally changed as a set for convenience).
I'd keep riding Tourances, but the bike service centre that I love gets them supplied at 3-5 yrs old (according to the date stamps).
So, I will give the 705's a go. Not expecting them to be as quiet as the Tourances but better value for sure. I like the twisties and gravel.
I ride a V-Strom 650 and am on my second 705. I love that I get the tire delivered to my home for $90. It's also taller than the other tires I've tried, which brings down the Rpm on the hwy. I'm not getting the mileage you do, but an easy 6k miles with tread left over. The 705 front tire would probably run 25k miles safely, but it tends to scallop around 12-15 k miles. Thanks for the info.... enjoy your videos.
Thanks for watching. Fair to say ordering a second is a testament. 👍 Agree the fronts scallop, though I'm getting more miles b4 that happens for some reason.
Thanks for doing this detailed review. I just ordered a pair of these for my 2021 Royal Enfield Himalayan. The only thing that concerns me is the off road performance. The front specifically. I owned an Africa Twin and it was frightening on gravel until I swapped the original tires for Michelin Anakee Wilds. The bike changed completely and was much better on gravel roads. The Himalayan with the stock tires actually handles very well on gravel. I feel much more confident than I did on the Africa Twin. The original tires on the Himalayan are wearing out quickly. The rear is shot at 7,000 km (that's less the 5,000 miles). I know these Shinko's will wear much better but I'm just a little concerned about how they will perform in the gravel.
Thanks for watching. Yes, these Shinkos are a winner because of their value, but one must weigh intended use also. If you think of it, circle back here with your thoughts after you've ridden them offroad and let us all know what you think. Might help someone else.
I just switched to Shinko 705 front from Metzger Tourance on my VStrom 650. The bike does feel heavier in the twisties. Was used to it in an afternoon.
That's exactly it! That'll last you 30,000 miles, or 25,000 if you don't like the knobby feeling of cupping. 🙂
I'm thinking about trying a set of these on my 650 Versey. Even though 98% of the time I'm riding on the road, I like to hit an occasional dirt or gravel road. My stock Dunlops are shot at 4000 miles. Thanks for your review.
Rich
elitetileandstone hi Rich, how’s it going? I have a ‘13 650 Versys. How do you like these tires on your bike?
My Dunlops also burned away like butter in a frying pan, 3500 km I allready started thinking about changing..
Great video. Excellent record keeping
Very cool review - you brought up a lot points I was interested in. I ordered my first rear tire yesterday. It's going on a BMW 2009 R1200 GSA. i'll update later... as I get some miles on it...
Did you ever put those miles on your rear Shinko 705? Any thoughts? No expectations.
Monk: Thanks for the thorough tour of your experiences. It would be helpful for wanderers as myself to know the machine (your subject). I've read some threads wherein the heavier bikes (BMW 1200's) have experienced some unique tread bloc separations.
In my case, that of smaller machines, one 250 dual sport, the other a 200, they'll likely not experience the load and heat produced by the larger rides. Just sayin'...for a $150 tire swap in my case(s), they're what the DR (pun intended) ordered.
Mine is a 2012 DL1000 V-Strom. 520 lbs wet plus me, and gear sometimes.
My gs 1200 at 500lbs runs fantastic on the 705’s on/off, wet or dry, they have been great! Doesn’t hurt the bank!
Thanks to your review and others I have bought a set of 705's. I believe I payed about $250 CAD shipped to the door so a big savings there compared to other brands. Now near the end of the season for us in Canada I'll have to wait till next year to try them out but looking forward to it.
Thanks again for the great review.
Thanks for watching! Having lived most of my life in Minnesota and North Dakota, I know the patience it takes to wait through winter for riding season. Hat's off to you.
You posted this comment a while ago. Was curious what you experience was with the Shinkos the following year. Did you end up liking them?
Okay I'm sold ...the price sold me as much as anything..08 Suzi DL650...we'll see ....they were not too hard to muscle on ...the old Metzlers were toughter to take off than the Shinkos were to mount!
Great! Hope you enjoy. Circle back and let us your thoughts after 10000 miles, if you think of it. Helpful to the community and I'm only one opinion. More opinions is better.
Thanks again !
Lav mic will take videos like this to the next level 👍🏻
RoadRunner Agree. Perhaps I'll get one for Christmas. Life is full of compromises and, with a family to support, I have to make choices about where to spend limited resources. Thanks for watching.
nice video. I also enjoy the Shinto tires and the price on them. I put a set on my Tenere last summer and I will be putting a set on my crf250l this year. not sure if they will be 700 or the 705. thanks for the video. and I subscribed.
dragonrider385 Thanks! I'm starting to see some cupping in my front now, since shooting this video, but I'm still very happy with they're longevity. Plan to order another set soon.
Urban Monk TV I think your making a good buy. if you get the time check out my UA-cam videos. I have fun making them. keep the rubber side down and I will be looking at more of you videos.
dragonrider385 Take a look at what happened with our Shinko 705 tire on Instagram @chasing60degrees
I know that there Shinko 705 price is 1/2 the price I am 1 ready to go on my cb500x on the rear I heard so many or stories about being on the wet with the Shinko I know I'm on a budget but I stare afraid to put this tire on I'm going to have to save for new one something different maybe this trailmax thanks for your info keep your tires out off the rain stay safe
Thanks for watching Robbie. You've mentioned twice in comments you've "heard" Shinkos are bad in the wet. I couldn't determine from the first comment you posted whether you've actually tried them or have just read about them. I completely understand being on a budget (it's one of the reasons I like the Shinko), but the only way you'll know for sure if you like them is to try them. I hope I've understood the situation correctly.
Thanks!
Hi there, nice video. I have a 2006 KTM 950 SM. 17 front 17 rear. I'm like you. I like the street but like to do a little off road trail / ranch etc, nothing stupid. Have you ever done any wet dirt roads / little mud? Or sand? Also I'm running street tires now. 180/70/17 x 120/70/17. Should I stay same size?Thanks.
Sorry for extremely late reply. Not sure how I overlooked this comment. I have not had the opportunity to run in mud or wet sand with these tires. Doesn't happen much here in SoCal. As for tire size... If you prefer radials, I don't believe the 705s come in radial in that size, but might in bias ply.
I understand these are tubeless tires. Can I still use them with inner tube?
You could, but they may run a little hotter on the highway and thus wear a bit faster. I assume your asking because you want to run in rougher/slower terrain though. Thanks for watching.
@@UrbanMonkTV I need new tires and people recomended those and I just realized they were tubeless. Any sugestion on tires 80/20?
Tadeo, yes you can run them with tubes as long as you are putting them on wheels that are designed for tubes. I run Dunlap Trailmax mission tires on my Suzuki DR650 which are tubeless tires and no issues with the tubes.
Cheers!
Thanks for the review. Do they create a lot of road noise?
A little, but not annoying. Front started to cup after 27,000 miles. Then it got louder.
A fair amount but not horrible.
Hello Urban Monk. Great review. Are the 705's very noisy on the road?
eighttracklover1 Not bad actually. Certainly louder than a 100% street tire, but not like knobbies. I will say that as the front has become cupped (after more than 30,000 miles) it is getting more noisy. Also, to be fair, I do wear earplugs 90% of the time. Hope that helps.
It does, thanks. Going to give them a shot this year on my v strom 650.
eighttracklover1 take a look at what happened with our Shinko 705 tire on Instagram @chasing60degrees It just might make you change your mind
windandsea12 Thanks for sharing! That sure doesn't look good. Was that a radial or bias ply 705?
Just put ny 705's on and I dont like the front.It feels like it wants to wash out.I will put some more miles on them to see.if I change my mind.
Hmm. Certainly they (and all new tires) would need a break-in, but I haven't had any issues with my confidence in them after break-in. Hope you come to like them. They definitely don't turn in as easily, as I mentioned. I'm heading out in a few days for a 10,000 mile coast-to-coast trip (and back again) and like that I won't need to change tires at all on that trip.
I have run the Michelin Pilot Trail 4s and the Metzlers on my 2013 R1200GS. The Michelins are great in the wet and all the time but cost quite a bit more. I never get more than 8000 miles out of either though on the front. I am going to try the Shinkos and see how they work. Even if I get 5k miles, the cost is tolerable.
CaptainMorganism Would love to hear your thoughts after burning through your first Shinkos - how they compare to your other tire experiences. Admittedly, I've not run others on my Strom to compare to (other than the Trail Wings).
The tires are now on the bike. With a short run around my area to feel them out (about 30-40miles) it give me a heavier turn in effort but once banked over it seems stable. The bike tracks well even over rough pavement (South Louisiana = all pavement is rough). I did a few miles on gravel as well that felt fine. The tires just seem like they weigh more than the Metzlers, but that is COMPLETELY unscientific appraisal. $200 for a set, I can live with them as long as the rubber side stays down!
I had the same initial feeling! It takes more effort to turn the bike, but I've gotten used to it and they have served me well in LA traffic and on the mountain and canyon twisties. I've even driven them in the rain a little (doesn't rain here much) and they did fine. Hope you like them long term.
Urban Monk TV It rains here often, I will give my report after it does. I am a daily commuter so it's bound to happen.
How much front and rear tire pressure do you put in?
I typically run 36psi in front always and 36 pai rear if I'm riding alone without gear loaded. If I'm loaded up for motocamping or have a pillion then I run 41 psi in rear. Thanks for watching!
just watched your video again. So helpful thanks. If my front tire is still OK tread wise, its still OK to just replace the rear ? Thanks.
Absolutely! I change 2 1/2 to 3 rears for each front with these 705s.
@@UrbanMonkTV thanks. i was just reading some reviews of the 705"s bulging ? any comment on that ? seems they were doing desert riding with lower pressures. likely caused the issue >
@@craigwesson1788 That's never happened to me, but I've never taken them offroad other than gravel roads. My V-Strom cups the fronts after 22k miles or so, but that's a suspension thing, not a tire thing. I just keep riding until I hot 30k or so. :)
What is it like in the wet? I've seen people complaining about wet weather and we have a lot of wet here in NZ.
Rubber is expensive in NZ and these are still gonna cost me $150 for a rear
First, thanks for watching. I live in a pretty dry climate to be honest. I've only ridden in the rain on the 705s a handful of times. I didn't think they were bad. I was not sliding around corners, but I wasn't pushing it either.
@@UrbanMonkTV thanks, i don't push it either, im middle aged and not in to being a speed demon.
Noone seems to have a lot of wet weather experience on these... maybe I'll buy them and do a review lol.
@@shanekeat7473 You should! A lot of guys would be interested. Sorry they cost so much more there.
@@UrbanMonkTV not your fault mate, they are still a cheap tyre, for instance a tk80 costs about $320 here before fitting and balancing if you don't do it yourself
@@shanekeat7473 Well it may not be cheap to live there, but you have a beautiful country. Hope to visit one day.
What pressure do you typically run in the Shinkos. I have them on a KLR 650 and I try to stay around 31-32 PSI.
Jim Coleman Thanks for watching! I go with the pressures recommended in my bike's manual. 36 front 41 rear. If I were going on a loose gravel road I may drop that to 20ish, but that's not typical of my riding lately.
I have the 2014 Suzuki DL1000 and with almost 5K original miles, I'm looking for a tire that will last. I will order a set as I plan on riding much more with $4.00-$5.00 a gallon fuel in my area in the not so distant future. I had a set of Shinko Stealth tires on my Suzuki BKing and they were outstanding compared to the stock tires. Thanks for the review!
I also am ordering a set of Shinko Ravens for my 2002 Buell S3T Thunderbolt. Definitely think the value is there for what you get. I was wondering how many miles you have on your V-Strom?
WIth your next set try treating them with 303 protectant. It really helps prevent dry rot. When a tire dry rots it causes more heat as the separated surfaces rub against each other. Apply it inside the tire before mounting and treat the outside every couple of months. Doesn't change the grip at all. I like the 705's on my F800gs. Also the 804/805 combo is good offroad tire. www.amazon.com/303-Protectant-plastic-finished-leather/dp/B0185PU38A
Ed DeBolt Thanks. I'll have to check that out. I wasn't experiencing too much cracking, but I did run the front for many miles. Not a long time though. I'm putting on at least 75 miles/day.
Nice review, this closes the deal for me on new tires for the 500x
One recommended star still good in the rain or wet roads
Have you experience much cupping (mainly on the rear) with these tires? Thanks!
addie750 Yes, with the front, but not until over 30,000 miles.
Urban Monk TV Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for watching!
I should have read your question more carefully... I've had no issues with cupping in rears.
Urban Monk TV Thanks for the additional information. Just the info I was looking for.
Sorry two more questions. For the Shinzo 705. Radial or bias ply ? And.........what do you recommend tire tread depth on changing tires. Thanks again you've been the absolute biggest help !
I have always run the radials. As for tread depth, I've been entertaining myself with seeing how far I can push these, but in reality one should probably change them when they are too square for safety. For me that's around 1.5mm or so.
Urban Monk TV thank you !
Hey Urban Monk! i have a 06 Dl650 V-Strom. what size is your front and rear Tire sizes for the Shinko 705's ? thank you!
Rear: 150/70R17. Front:110/80R19. Both are the radials - not the bias ply. Hope that helps!
@@UrbanMonkTV thank you ! And for the fast reply
Ever try the Kenda 761? Are they heavy?
Eric sin Sorry, no.
My XT350 was stolen last month, It had 761s, I bought another XT350 think ill go with another set, thanks
Hi mate just wondering what size that front tyre of yours ?
Wira Sathya Thanks for watching! 110/80R19 radial tubeless. They make bias ply 705s also, but Strom should use tubeless radial.
Urban Monk TV thank you sooo much mate :)
How does this compare to the Bridgestone trail wings that usually come on the stroms
Much longer wear with Shinkos, but greater mass (more rubber) leads to greater gyroscopic forces keeping the bike upright. Thus turning feels sluggish at first with Shinkos until you get used to it. I love them.
@@UrbanMonkTV thank you are they as loud on highway and as buzzy
@@datznasty1475 Rears no. Front is also quiet until about 20,000 miles when they begin to cup a little. Theres still a lot of life in them at that point, but the cupping starts some buzzing noise.
@@UrbanMonkTV thank you I'm just trying to find a 80/20 tire that is better on road than the Bridgestones
@@datznasty1475 I'd guess you may want to try something else then. My thinking is the Shinkos are a decent performing tire with super long wear life and thus best value. But best value doesn't mean best performance. They're ok.
How do they do in the rain? (On the street)
I'd say ok. Not great, not bad. Ok.
@@UrbanMonkTV thanks for the reply. I ride in the rain a fair amount probably a few hundred miles a year would you recommend these tires? I'm looking at these and the anakee adventure
@@younggun9956 How aggressive are you in rain?
really bad under wet and cold especially here in Canada not very safe
Thank you for watching!
Robbie Burt .....I’m in Canada also....on my 3rd 705...don’t see anything wrong with them....what would you recommend??
@@garyrourke3284 Thanks for throwing in here. I refrained from commenting further here because I didn't start using the 705s until I moved out of Minnesota, so I couldn't comment from experience. Glad you're engaging the question for everyone's edification.
I heard would be a good choice on the front Dunlop trailmax on the front I am thinking about GPS for the rear what do you think?
Robbie Burt ..... Probably a great choice but you’re looking at over twice the money