It is magic. The vast majority of the people on this planet would not be able to figure out how this works even with the part in their hand. They could take it apart and still be left with more questions than answers. There's only a very small fraction of a percent of people who could. If we forget how fragile our systems are and how valuable lives are and decide to go for an all out war. This magic could die and take decades or more to bring back. This is just one component of the magic that makes our species flourish. Doesn't matter who you are, there's some rare piece of knowledge you hold, if you aren't around to share it, it could be gone.
@@The_Koolaid_Control no they used the tape to make the tracks and transistors & fets. Just as making a PCB, they use masks and light sensitive solutions to etch away pieces and grow other type of crystal there (P/N junctions) or deposit metal to make conductors. check this channel: Asianometry, has "old" skool footage showing how it's or was done. A person hanging from the ceiling working a "giant" semi conductor using a roll of masking tape, like 100.000x bigger in it's size it's not really magic, just the scale where it's done is awesome, imagine every one having a main frame at home, lol.
Very cool video Brother😲👏 Thanks for sharing🤝 With this laser it is possible to scrape precisely and to restore a defective track in encapsulated boards.
May be possible. I saw videos of people repairing SD cards! When first saw these types videos on UA-cam I was shocked, how easy is to decapsulate IC's. They are very.
I instantly smelled burning electronics…… Thank you so much for sharing. It reminded me of using polishing compound on glass to get heat sinks and cpu flatter.
May God Almighty protect, keep all these beautiful people, Scientists Scholars, researchers creators of so many innovations from others and evils on this blessed Planet Earth 🌏
Nice Decap. My suspicion is that the laser decap will damage the IC, making FA difficult to do at the very least. Still physical properties (Wire, ball bond integrity) should be visible.
Oh yes my friend, it damages the silicon itself and everything on his path. When combined with traditional methods like acid it can be useful! Although I use the word Decapsulation, it may not be the best choice 😁
Is that sound being recorded from the from the interaction of the bream with the material, or is it from the control electronics driving the laser? Or all? It’s a unique menacing sound, really cool.
Control electronics produce sound, but it can't be hear here. Also the constant noise in the background is coming from cooling fans. But this awesome alien or digital sound all is coming from the material. The rapid expansion of lasered material, creating this. And you are right my friend, it's menacing! ✌️
Doing this are you able to put into a microescope and do reverse Engineering into some old chips? Or this fries the integrated circuit? Amazing video btw!!
This fries chip, atleast i did 😅 But on the other hand if you do this carefully and under microscope I am sure that results would be much better compared to mine. And you can do some reverse engineering.
iv been eating imitation crab since i was like 2 and im 34 now. i just recently looked up what it has in it as for nutriance! it has a non-metal semiconductor compond in it!!!
Hello nice decapping process. Would you please tell me which laser decapping machine can be used for hobby ? The power should be at least 20 W. Am İ right? Can you please give me some names for the suitable products which are about 1000 Dolar Budget. Many thanks
Thank you! These laser are for engraving metal, plastic and other materialsbwhich react to this type of laser. I don't know if there's any made especially for burning chips 🤔 Prices are different, but Google can help you more than me for finding a suitable price. 20W power is enough for this type of applications. ✌️
Hey you should run compressed air across the work and into a filter so you don't have so much loose particles ready to breathe in or ingest through skin. I like how you try to view with better magnification later, about 10x more oughtta do it...or fancier illumination, too. Capacitors should be neat to cut into also, maybe? All kinds? Maybe inkjet integrated jets would take a gradient cut?
WOW, you could do that to an op amp, ( maybe sett the laser power not so much so it only "destroys" the plastic not the metal too? ) then epoxy it and make it a unique look , and it still working. 0:33 looks like it would still work i think.
Your idea is good, but the laser to reach so deep needs power, and by the time it reaches the crystal, it has already destroyed it. 😢 So in 0:33 chip is not working anymore 😓 Maybe it is possible with acids, but in my country is a bit hard to get these kind of stuff.
50W Fiber laser, I believe it's is with Raycus source, but not sure. Laser wavelength - 1064nm These are done with default settings 1300 speed 50-80% power 50 frequency Thats it!
After this video i didn't measured anything if it's working or not. But in my next video i tried with bigger elements, to see will it survive... Stay tuned! COMING OUT SOON!
I'm glad you liked it! Firstly I used 50W Fiber laser with JPT source. Settings were generic Speed 1300 Power 50-80% Frequency 30kHz Line distance 0.031 Laser is not Mopa so I don't know what the laser pulse length is 😒
@@DjaniAgain I'm guessing that doing this kills the chip so if it previously worked, it wont after the laser hits it. Another idea for you and a future video. Try this with a masked rom chip on board black blob type device where they just put a black blob on top and it seals the chip. Mostly found in cheaper electronics and toys.
It would look the same as the other devices treated in the same way in this video. The difference between the chips is what is on the die itself and this video doesn't show you that. It can't. You need a microscope.
will this damage the mosfet? as in, if I use this to decap a mosfet, can I then pull off the crystal and use it somewhere else? (assuming the leads are kept intact?)
WOW, pretty ambitious 😲 Those things are so tiny and fragile... Success rate would be no more than a percent if you ask me. But would like to see a video you doing this 👍 PS, you can check my 555 timer decapsulation, this would answer you question about is laser damaging the crystal
Is there some affordable and compact chinese laser machine I can order to do the same thing, or does it require over expensive industrial grade laser ?
This is not an industrial one, atleast for me. Here in my country 20W fiber laser is about 4000 USD. This is a chinese machine too. Maybe there is some models. Search for fiber laser!
I would drop the power down and defocus the laser to create a larger dot that would melt the plastic but not damage the metal or silicon. I'll give that a try later.
These are my first trials, and they are quiet intense with power, so there is no chance to this elements to be used again. In future I will try to be more precise, and keep the IC running
@@oskimac Yeah, saw that, he has a manual bonding machine, but still i would like to see both end of the wire, how it's cut, welded. pretty thing wire.
@@AnalogDude_ yes. I don't remember if is in this video or another. But he shows the entire process. And how dificult isnto thread the thin gold wire along the machine
this might be a great method to make sure that highly sensible data gets premanently erased whenever you decide to throw away your old smartphone. same for sd cards and thumbdrives
It harms metal! So gold hurts too, but compared to other material it endures more. Fiber lasers react wery good with metals, so at some point gold wires, just disappear!
a question: why do you not just take the IC and put it in some 400C hot air for 20 -25 seconds, then pop it apart? the youtube channel 'curious marc' outlined this process and also took very high quality macro shots from the result --- The laser here is damaging the layers -- where just some hot air heat will cause the epoxy to off gas and separate so it can be pulled apart with 2 pliers very easily!
Pin 6 is ommited because this IC (TNY267) is switching power supply driver. This IC is placed in the primary of power suply and drives about 300volts, so pin 6 is ommited for isolation and safety purpose.
Actually the wires (bonding wires) from the leads on the package frame to the pads around the edge of the die is typically gold for integrated circuits.
Here is the video without music!
ua-cam.com/video/sPK9VVOaaUI/v-deo.html
Are they gold bond wires @7:36
Someone says, they are, but I'm not sure 🤔
@@DjaniAgain hi what laser did you use to do this to the ic's
It's so called Fiber laser or marking laser 👍
@@DjaniAgain thank you well because I'm a electronics repairs engineer if I get a eprom that I need to get inside I can with this tool
4:50 It's amazing how accurate lightsaber sounds and visuals are, or maybe the other way around. 😂
😁😁😁
May the force be with you!
My whole childhood unfolded before my eyes. Thankyou.
I'm so glad you like it! ✌️
As a kid, I would laboriously file off burnt IC's and 3 pin transistors to see what the hell is inside one. Your laser is amazing.
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I’m still convinced all computer parts are just containers of magic.
It is magic. The vast majority of the people on this planet would not be able to figure out how this works even with the part in their hand. They could take it apart and still be left with more questions than answers. There's only a very small fraction of a percent of people who could. If we forget how fragile our systems are and how valuable lives are and decide to go for an all out war. This magic could die and take decades or more to bring back. This is just one component of the magic that makes our species flourish. Doesn't matter who you are, there's some rare piece of knowledge you hold, if you aren't around to share it, it could be gone.
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@Calliber50, you are totally right!
It comes from the aliens 🛸
The blue smoke is the secret. If it gets out, it stops working. Can confirm from personal experience.
They are containers of magic smoke as they stop working when it is released
thiss one of the coolest Fn videos.... i have no idea how it doesnt genuinely have literally millions of views
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Nice decapsulation! I worked in IC design for over 30 years and had not seen this process.
Wow, thats a lot of experience 👏
I wonder how the design process works.
they used to do that with plain simple roll "masking" tape on a large scale and with photographic tricks reduce the size to ultra small.
@@AnalogDude_ so they cut stensils out of the tape?
@@The_Koolaid_Control no they used the tape to make the tracks and transistors & fets.
Just as making a PCB, they use masks and light sensitive solutions to etch away pieces and grow other type of crystal there (P/N junctions) or deposit metal to make conductors.
check this channel: Asianometry, has "old" skool footage showing how it's or was done.
A person hanging from the ceiling working a "giant" semi conductor using a roll of masking tape, like 100.000x bigger in it's size
it's not really magic, just the scale where it's done is awesome, imagine every one having a main frame at home, lol.
You can see the structure but sadly the IC is destroyed. For real decapping, nitric or sulfuric acid is used to keep the die intact.
You are right, this is just a fun experiment. 👍
But you can reduce the epoxy layer :)
yeah you are rigth, but this is a fine method can use to reduce the thickness of the epoxy layer, then you can use the acid to expose the die.
need a different type of laser
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Very cool video Brother😲👏
Thanks for sharing🤝
With this laser it is possible to scrape precisely and to restore a defective track in encapsulated boards.
May be possible. I saw videos of people repairing SD cards!
When first saw these types videos on UA-cam I was shocked, how easy is to decapsulate IC's. They are very.
I love the sound it makes.
Check the description of the video, there is a link to a video with no music ✌️
I instantly smelled burning electronics……
Thank you so much for sharing. It reminded me of using polishing compound on glass to get heat sinks and cpu flatter.
I'm so glad you like it! Greetings! ✌️
I don’t know why it so satisfying! But I like this stuff!
✌️Thank you!
So cool! Always wondered how they're on the inside
I hope thos helps a little bit! 😊
wow, that's the contents of the inside. It's been almost 30 years, so the technician just found out about the inside of the IC
beautiful video on this process ! love it
I'm glad you liked it!
최고입니다. 이렇게 내부가 나타날 줄 몰랐습니다
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That's awesome! Mind blowed
Thank you my friend ✌️
May God Almighty protect, keep all these beautiful people, Scientists Scholars, researchers creators of so many innovations from others and evils on this blessed Planet Earth 🌏
I always wonder about this many years back and thank you for share this , awesome 👍
I'm glad you like it ✌️
Wow, lasers actually sound like the movies finally.
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Was really surprised how big that die inside that power MOSFET was. I would have guessed it only 75% as large.
I did with bigger one, will see in futere how big the die is! ✌️
Mostly speculation, but perhaps a larger die affords more surface area to radiate heat from?
@@jnharton not only that but larger current can flow due to lower resistance, just like a larger wire
@@DjaniAgainomg do more!!!!!!!!!!! this is the coolest thing ever!!!!
@@DjaniAgain do you know that old components can contain BeO?
All I can say is WOW! Great Video!!!
I'm so glad you like it. 👍
Nice Decap. My suspicion is that the laser decap will damage the IC, making FA difficult to do at the very least. Still physical properties (Wire, ball bond integrity) should be visible.
Oh yes my friend, it damages the silicon itself and everything on his path.
When combined with traditional methods like acid it can be useful!
Although I use the word Decapsulation, it may not be the best choice 😁
Very interesting 👌!
После этого видео я понял как это работает, теперь я буду самым крутым электронщиком! Спасибо!
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Check this:
ua-cam.com/video/I0g5G0dm9KI/v-deo.html
explains how they got rid of the labels, thanks dude
And its very easy as you saw ✌️
@@DjaniAgain i know someone stated that they use sand paper also. it can get frustrating to reverse engineer at times
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I did sanding on an optocoupler, sometimes there is no other choice!
I guess the wires in those chips are pure gold
They look like gold, but I'm not sure 🤔
That is awesome to watch. Did you ever check the state of the bond wire in a microscope to see how well it stayed together?
I'm glad you like it!
Good goin' Purcel. You just greased yourself some chips.
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Is that sound being recorded from the from the interaction of the bream with the material, or is it from the control electronics driving the laser? Or all?
It’s a unique menacing sound, really cool.
Control electronics produce sound, but it can't be hear here. Also the constant noise in the background is coming from cooling fans. But this awesome alien or digital sound all is coming from the material. The rapid expansion of lasered material, creating this.
And you are right my friend, it's menacing! ✌️
Doing this are you able to put into a microescope and do reverse Engineering into some old chips? Or this fries the integrated circuit?
Amazing video btw!!
This fries chip, atleast i did 😅
But on the other hand if you do this carefully and under microscope I am sure that results would be much better compared to mine. And you can do some reverse engineering.
Super! Thank you very much!
You welcome ✌️
Gran vídeo se abrió el misterio de esas cápsulas negras para abrir varias preguntas más, Gracias...
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Nicely done!
Thank you! ✌️
This would work perfectly for documenting multilayered pcb. Would love so see something like this.
I'm not sure if it would peel layers 🤔
X ray would be better at that along with software processing.
Check out Zeptobars.
iv been eating imitation crab since i was like 2 and im 34 now. i just recently looked up what it has in it as for nutriance! it has a non-metal semiconductor compond in it!!!
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Hello nice decapping process. Would you please tell me which laser decapping machine can be used for hobby ? The power should be at least 20 W. Am İ right?
Can you please give me some names for the suitable products which are about 1000 Dolar Budget.
Many thanks
Thank you! These laser are for engraving metal, plastic and other materialsbwhich react to this type of laser. I don't know if there's any made especially for burning chips 🤔
Prices are different, but Google can help you more than me for finding a suitable price.
20W power is enough for this type of applications.
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Thank you so much for sharing.
I'm glad you like it!
Hey you should run compressed air across the work and into a filter so you don't have so much loose particles ready to breathe in or ingest through skin. I like how you try to view with better magnification later, about 10x more oughtta do it...or fancier illumination, too.
Capacitors should be neat to cut into also, maybe? All kinds? Maybe inkjet integrated jets would take a gradient cut?
Thank you for advices ✌️
WOW, you could do that to an op amp, ( maybe sett the laser power not so much so it only "destroys" the plastic not the metal too? ) then epoxy it and make it a unique look , and it still working.
0:33 looks like it would still work i think.
Your idea is good, but the laser to reach so deep needs power, and by the time it reaches the crystal, it has already destroyed it. 😢
So in 0:33 chip is not working anymore 😓
Maybe it is possible with acids, but in my country is a bit hard to get these kind of stuff.
what machine did u use?? or at least what kind of laser is it??
It's known as Fiber laser or marking laser
Не бях виждал такова чудо. Супер е!
Благодаря! 👍👍👍
looks great! what machine did you use for this?
I'm so glad you like it!
This is done on Fiber laser
@@DjaniAgain What's the spec of the fiber laser? Trying to do this exact experiment! Thanks!
50W Fiber laser, I believe it's is with Raycus source, but not sure.
Laser wavelength - 1064nm
These are done with default settings
1300 speed
50-80% power
50 frequency
Thats it!
Some of the chips, amazing, packaging must be a costly part of making with all those little wires
Do the chips work after this? The smaller packages likely won't but the bigger ones could :)
After this video i didn't measured anything if it's working or not. But in my next video i tried with bigger elements, to see will it survive...
Stay tuned!
COMING OUT SOON!
No, they won't, none of them :)
シリコンの半導体は本体はめちゃくちゃ小さくて、それのカバーや端子類が大きいだけってことか。
すごいな、全然知らなかった。
Believe me, I'm also amazed how such a small thing can bear such a big load 🤔
SOund effect at 07:50 ish reminds me SO much of a ZX-Spectrum game intro....
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Particularly Llamatron 2330 by Jef Minter. Vids available!
Amazing. Do those ic still work after decapping?
I don't think so, laser destroys them. Watch 555 timer and bridge rectifier videos, you will see the results for yourself my friend. ✌️
@@DjaniAgain OK, thanks.
And those IC price just looooooooow, how incredible mass production are
lol... don't let Daft Punk hear that sound 🤣🤣
😂🤣😜
Love your videos mate, I wish that the deconstruction was to replicate some of the chips like the custom Amiga chips
This is awesome. The fiber laser with rotating mirror ?
Yes, exacly! Fiber laser with mirror 👍
@@DjaniAgain that’s cool.
i love this content
@@pick_pick_pick I'm so glad you like it 🤩
Video Impressionante a laser...muito bom
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We need video from macro lens... Thats must be amazing..
super, what parametr do you use? I think that the duration is about 14 ns, but what is the speed and frequency?What is the filling density?
I'm glad you liked it!
Firstly I used 50W Fiber laser with JPT source.
Settings were generic
Speed 1300
Power 50-80%
Frequency 30kHz
Line distance 0.031
Laser is not Mopa so I don't know what the laser pulse length is 😒
I was just wondering, the bonding wire connecting the pins to the die is so thin. How can it handle so much current?
Believe me my friend i thought the same thing when first saw it.
I can't explain it to myself 🤷
Fake mosfet from aliexpress.. Always decapsulate before use 😉 😂😂
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C1 and C2 Capacitors look like they were vaporized too 😆
😅😂🤣
@@DjaniAgain They *Were,* weren't they!? haha
You are right 😂😅🤣
Curious what an amplifier IC like an LM386 or any other amp chip would look like after this.
I will do this in future my friend! Thanks for the idea 👍
@@DjaniAgain I'm guessing that doing this kills the chip so if it previously worked, it wont after the laser hits it.
Another idea for you and a future video. Try this with a masked rom chip on board black blob type device where they just put a black blob on top and it seals the chip. Mostly found in cheaper electronics and toys.
It would look the same as the other devices treated in the same way in this video.
The difference between the chips is what is on the die itself and this video doesn't show you that. It can't. You need a microscope.
I strongly agree! But experimenting won't stop 👍
@@DjaniAgain I'm curious what it looks like, hope to see this in a future video.
Great job.
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will this damage the mosfet? as in, if I use this to decap a mosfet, can I then pull off the crystal and use it somewhere else? (assuming the leads are kept intact?)
WOW, pretty ambitious 😲
Those things are so tiny and fragile...
Success rate would be no more than a percent if you ask me.
But would like to see a video you doing this 👍
PS, you can check my 555 timer decapsulation, this would answer you question about is laser damaging the crystal
Bravo j'avais pas pensé à faire cela avec un laser que je suppose au co2 vu la puissance
Yes! I also have access to CO2 laser but, i think it's not precise like Fiber laser, also I'm not sure if it will interact with IC chips material. 🤔
Does your camera have any sort of filter? How could it survive that?
Normal phone camera, with no filter.
I didn't thought much about it 🤔
This is like pointing to the sun...
Is there some affordable and compact chinese laser machine I can order to do the same thing, or does it require over expensive industrial grade laser ?
This is not an industrial one, atleast for me. Here in my country 20W fiber laser is about 4000 USD.
This is a chinese machine too.
Maybe there is some models. Search for fiber laser!
I would drop the power down and defocus the laser to create a larger dot that would melt the plastic but not damage the metal or silicon.
I'll give that a try later.
Actually this sounds good, i have to try it sometime 🤔
Thank you for the idea my friend! ✌️
what happens if you use/power the mosfet after decapsulation?
These are my first trials, and they are quiet intense with power, so there is no chance to this elements to be used again.
In future I will try to be more precise, and keep the IC running
0:06 Terminator skull!
Imagined for a moment, they cut stone like this in Ancient Egypt. Laser precision.
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According to some conspiracy theories, they cut by aliens and they maybe used lazers 🤔
cara simplesmente incrível
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will it still work after the microcontroller is scraped off?
😅 I have doubts my friend
Nice, whoah
Super video thk y so much.
I'm so glad you liked it 😊
That's extremely cool!
You wonder how they manage to get the bonding wires done.
actually: ua-cam.com/video/mvZ1dJuvenw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=SamZeloof
these guy is doyng chips al home, insane
@@oskimac Yeah, saw that, he has a manual bonding machine, but still i would like to see both end of the wire, how it's cut, welded. pretty thing wire.
Thanks for the link! Really cool ✌️
@@AnalogDude_ yes. I don't remember if is in this video or another. But he shows the entire process. And how dificult isnto thread the thin gold wire along the machine
love these laser videos
I have plans to upload more, and different IC videos
@@DjaniAgain i'll watch them all
Great thanks ☺️
✌️ I'm glad you like it!
are those gold wires and gold pads?
I'm not sure, but I know that in the processors there are
this might be a great method to make sure that highly sensible data gets premanently erased whenever you decide to throw away your old smartphone. same for sd cards and thumbdrives
You are right my friend, this could be a standart practice. All the information literally evaporates. 😅
Hypnotic
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That was so cool.
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Very Cool
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Thats a big mosfet
The wires are all 24 carat pure gold
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Laser doesn't harms micro gold wires ?
It harms metal! So gold hurts too, but compared to other material it endures more. Fiber lasers react wery good with metals, so at some point gold wires, just disappear!
@@DjaniAgain but it seems compare to black Material , that thin gold wire stands longer in pulse laser because of Metallic Reflection right ?
You are right!
That looks like a scifi movie
I'm glad you liked it 👍
Artistic solution
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That makes me curious how all that was made to begin with
The resistor next to that first ic 🫣
Couldn't resist the charm of the laser 😅😂🤣
a question: why do you not just take the IC and put it in some 400C hot air for 20 -25 seconds, then pop it apart? the youtube channel 'curious marc' outlined this process and also took very high quality macro shots from the result --- The laser here is damaging the layers -- where just some hot air heat will cause the epoxy to off gas and separate so it can be pulled apart with 2 pliers very easily!
🤔 You are right!
This is the first step to getting the magic blue smoke back into the chip.
😅🤣😂
Thanks
I hope you liked it
WOW!
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Videoyu beğenmenize sevindim!
Devami gelecek ileride.
omg this is so cool
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1:25 pin5=VCC, pin8=GND, I guess. but there is some thing weird for IC901, there is no Pin 6 exist. maybe just for cost down. I guess.
I didn't even pay attention! Good observation! I never thought that such a small thing could save some cost 🤔
Pin 6 is ommited because this IC (TNY267) is switching power supply driver. This IC is placed in the primary of power suply and drives about 300volts, so pin 6 is ommited for isolation and safety purpose.
Thank you for the info my friend! 👍
@@vojtechslovjak8517 thanks~ good to know having the info.
wow👍
When deliding comes to the Extremes
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You can make jewellery out of these.
🤔 This is an idea! 👍
@@DjaniAgain My friend makes jewellery out of entire pcb sections, but you have better looking parts with the golden wires and all.
Share some link to his arts, so i may have some inspiration 😊
Is the wire a gold wire?
I dont think it's gold my friend, judging by color of course.
Actually the wires (bonding wires) from the leads on the package frame to the pads around the edge of the die is typically gold for integrated circuits.
amazing!
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Sind die Bonddrähte noch heile?
Some of them are gone, but sadly silicone layer also gone. 😢
@@DjaniAgain ok. but the laser is very impressive
I'm glad you like it! 👍
What they all have in common is the little black square inside what is it
Thats the silicon chip, where are all the transistors.