Can you combine these compensatory methods? for instance, can you put your yarn on the opposite side of your body AND pull it from the centre of the ball? Or would the effects cancel each other? (my situation: I combined - I think "plied" is the correct term - 4 strands together on a yarn winder that you mention in the video at 5:20; the tension was high on the individual strands, they kept twisting/ doubling up onto themselves. I knit continental, winding 1/2m yarn on my left index finger. The sample I worked with resulting yarn was terribly skewed). Thanks for your answer and for all these suggestions!
Thanks for your question. It sounds like when you wound them together on the yarn winder, it added a bit too much twist to the yarn. If the plies are twisting and doubling up on themselves, they will be very difficult to knit with. I do not have a yarn winder, but I assume you can't change it's direction or have much control over the result. (When you wind onto the yarn winder, is it adding S or Z twist?) I also am assuming that you started with 4 strands that had an "s" twist already and you added more "s" with the yarn winder. If you have a navajo spindle, you can rewind your yarn and go the opposite direction - that is, put in little "z" twist, but not so much that your yarns don't stay together. Look closely at the finished yarn, and you'll be able to see what direction to wind the yarn.
I should also add, if you are making a center pull ball, sometimes the twist is worse or better depending on the direction of the wind. You can try rewinding in the opposite direction. Some knitters prefer that the working yarn is on the outside of the ball, rather than a center pull, and allowing the ball to roll around as you are knitting, which helps take out the "extra" twist.
@@danielatrifu You can make one very cheaply and easily, If you have a drill and some simple tools. I don't know off hand which video it is...I talk about it a couple of times. It does not have to be perfect, either. It does need to be good enough that it will spin well, but it does not have to be as well balanced as a drop spindle. You also need a small hand planer or a knife, if you can whittle to taper the ends.
@@laurasbusycorner4797 Thank you for the extra tips! I've seen some videos of spindles made with CDs and such. I was also able to take a look at the yarn again, the single strands are S twist and they are all Z-twisted together. Perhaps too much Z (it was difficult to pull the strands back apart). I'll try to use the cake from the centre then.
Hi Tripti, Well, I've never seen S or Z twist terms applied to an entire fabric, except when what is being discussed is whether a fabric or garment pulls to one side because it is knitted with a single (unplied) yarn which can make a garment hang crooked because of the twist. When I refer to S or Z twist, I am referring to the yarn or thread itself. When yarn or thread is plied, it is most often done so that the resulting yarn is "balanced" and the yarn itself, and thus the item knitted from it doesn't pull one way or another. However, "active twist" is sometimes used creatively to make a knitted piece pull back and forth on purpose.
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I am new to knitting. Your video explained this S and Z twist and how to resolve it better than 10 other videos that came up first. Thank you so much!
Thank you ma"am for this information
Thanks for watching, Dennis.
Can you combine these compensatory methods? for instance, can you put your yarn on the opposite side of your body AND pull it from the centre of the ball? Or would the effects cancel each other? (my situation: I combined - I think "plied" is the correct term - 4 strands together on a yarn winder that you mention in the video at 5:20; the tension was high on the individual strands, they kept twisting/ doubling up onto themselves. I knit continental, winding 1/2m yarn on my left index finger. The sample I worked with resulting yarn was terribly skewed). Thanks for your answer and for all these suggestions!
Thanks for your question. It sounds like when you wound them together on the yarn winder, it added a bit too much twist to the yarn. If the plies are twisting and doubling up on themselves, they will be very difficult to knit with. I do not have a yarn winder, but I assume you can't change it's direction or have much control over the result. (When you wind onto the yarn winder, is it adding S or Z twist?) I also am assuming that you started with 4 strands that had an "s" twist already and you added more "s" with the yarn winder. If you have a navajo spindle, you can rewind your yarn and go the opposite direction - that is, put in little "z" twist, but not so much that your yarns don't stay together. Look closely at the finished yarn, and you'll be able to see what direction to wind the yarn.
@@laurasbusycorner4797 Thank you so much, I'll look into a spindle!
I should also add, if you are making a center pull ball, sometimes the twist is worse or better depending on the direction of the wind. You can try rewinding in the opposite direction. Some knitters prefer that the working yarn is on the outside of the ball, rather than a center pull, and allowing the ball to roll around as you are knitting, which helps take out the "extra" twist.
@@danielatrifu You can make one very cheaply and easily, If you have a drill and some simple tools. I don't know off hand which video it is...I talk about it a couple of times. It does not have to be perfect, either. It does need to be good enough that it will spin well, but it does not have to be as well balanced as a drop spindle. You also need a small hand planer or a knife, if you can whittle to taper the ends.
@@laurasbusycorner4797 Thank you for the extra tips! I've seen some videos of spindles made with CDs and such. I was also able to take a look at the yarn again, the single strands are S twist and they are all Z-twisted together. Perhaps too much Z (it was difficult to pull the strands back apart). I'll try to use the cake from the centre then.
Hey, how can we tell if fabrics like Satin is S twisted or Z twisted?
Hi Tripti, Well, I've never seen S or Z twist terms applied to an entire fabric, except when what is being discussed is whether a fabric or garment pulls to one side because it is knitted with a single (unplied) yarn which can make a garment hang crooked because of the twist. When I refer to S or Z twist, I am referring to the yarn or thread itself. When yarn or thread is plied, it is most often done so that the resulting yarn is "balanced" and the yarn itself, and thus the item knitted from it doesn't pull one way or another. However, "active twist" is sometimes used creatively to make a knitted piece pull back and forth on purpose.