Frankly though each group in the US has their own subculture and that's why it may not be about segregation but more about finding people you have things in common with.
School segregation at this point is financial. You pay more for houses and pay more taxes for the schools, the schools then have more money and education for the kids per student goes up. Historically non-white people cannot afford the homes or taxes for homes with good schools. While overt redlining is gone, there are still basic financial pieces that lead to segregation.
In late 2022 I was making around $70K/year at my job and had close to $30K in savings. No collections no credit card debt or any debt above $500ish dollars and a credit score of 750 that would fluctuate up and down by a few points every month. Oh and I almost forgot I had a letter to confirm that I had been prequalified by my bank for a loan of $450K. I live in the Denver/Aurora area. Late that year I made an appointment to see my first home that I could potentially buy to become a homeowner. The website I was using to look at and save homes that I was interested in picked a realtor for me (probably the biggest mistake of the ordeal that I made). When I spoke with the realtor on the phone about the first house we would go to look at I suspect that she may have thought that I was probably a white guy. I came to this realization some time after all of this. Nonetheless I met her at the first house we would tour that day. Oh and this house was in a very “NICE” neighborhood. When I got out of the car there was a white guy across the street who just starred at me when he saw me. That’s not a good sign. Then I walked up to the white realtor who was already standing at the door opening it so that we could take a look at the house. When I said greeted her she may not have realized it but I saw it, she paused for a good brief moment before turning around to return the greeting. I should have paid attention to these two incidents but the excitement of touring my first house was overwhelming. We went inside and looked it all over and she saw my “prequal” letter from my bank. And to give some context to the house we were looking at it was if I can recall a 4bdrm 2 and half bath 3000+ sqft house for $420k and was about 10 mins away from the Denver Airport that I worked at. This was through and through a fixer upper. Mold in the basement and a hole in the ceiling (not the roof) to name a few issues with it. This house had been on the market for close to a year with little to no traffic, in a market at the time in Denver where houses were being sold for $80K over asking price.
After we talked about the house and the process of it all we went to the next place I was interested in. It was a 3bdrm 2bath townhouse 1300sqft for $300k if I recall. It also needed a little bit of work. But much much less work than the first place we looked at. We talked some more and then I told her that we would call it a day and that I would get back to her on these places and try to find a couple of other places to look at as well. A few days go by and I decided to look at the first house online to see if there was any activity on it (like if the price had gone down). To my surprise it had a pending sale on it. I scrolled down to see when the offer was placed and it turns out the offer was placed the day that I went to go look at the house. We had looked at it that morning and coincidentally that same day an offer was placed. The house sold and about 5 to 6 months later I decided to look up the house again online to see if maybe the buyer got overwhelmed by the repair needed to be done on the house and put it back up for sale. Turns out it had been put back on the market but not at the same price of roughly $420k. It had sold again for $620K+. Someone had flipped it and repaired everything and probably made a profit of $130K+. After all of this went down I realized that the homeowner had an investor who was in the business of flipping houses in their back pocket so that if someone who looked like me came around they could keep me and anyone else like me out of the area by selling quickly to that investor/flipper.
I wouldn't say "historically" non-white people couldn't afford homes or taxes with good schools. Historically, neighborhoods with good schools also refused to sell homes to non-white buyers even though they had the money to buy. They then had no choice to buy homes in worse neighborhoods. Meanwhile, the value of the homes in the good neighborhoods increased exponentially leading to greater wealth for the people in thise neighborhoods, while the houses in the not-so-good neighborhoods rose only a little, leading to a wealty gap. So the wealth disparity is completely by design.
@MM-yz7fz That's why schools should not be funded by property taxes. Equal education means the same should be spent on every student, which means NO student should be shortchanged.
When asked "why are schools still segregated today?" She gave some long winded vocabulary 'i have no answer' response. Basic answer is that people want it like that, black people especially included!
Depending on the area, I went to school with a good mix of everyone. But the school a few miles down the road didn't have and still doesn't have many black kids.
@@rachelmoore1991 yeah that’s that’s true because here in California in the San Fernando Valley in the poor neighborhoods all the Mexicans live in the poor neighborhoods are considering the Latinos living in that area in the poor areas the predominant kid group in the elementary school technically is Latinos
Schools have been segregated for decades now. Yes there are schools that are diverse, but most schools are are segregated by race and wealth. That's never going to change. Most people wether they want to admit it or not they don't want to change a thing
Only a small amount of school funding comes from the state. The majority comes from the cities. So segregation by wealth has been and always will be a thing until they change that
I am a teacher in a public school district that has open enrollment across the district, K-12. Because I live in an area that also has high private school enrollment, we lose some of the affluence within our schools (for better or worse). However, I would like to think that the diversity in our schools is a blessing to us. The downside is that there is always a bus that shows up late because they are taking kids from one side of town to the other, who are "out of district." As for the experience of a predominantly white/suburban school, verses a predominantly black/urban school, I was surprised one day when speaking to a coworker (before I transitioned back to teaching) that she had never heard the music of a chorus together or of an orchestra together. She was black and went to an urban school that didn't offer music, or if they had, it was poorly run/attended. I was simultaneously shocked and saddened as a musician. Music and the arts help make the world go round!
I’m black and went to predominately-white suburban schools my whole life and I didn’t *fully* realize until early adulthood just how much of a privilege it was just to go to the types of schools I went to- all because of the zip code I had. I remember when I was like 19 or 20 I was talking about how banks use your money to a black boy about my age from the city and he was asking how I “knew so much about this already”. I just responded “I remember it from the first semester of my High schools financial literacy & management class”. He was so surprised that was offered and eagerly asked about all the other electives that my school offered and how wide-eyed he was a very sobering experience
@@janaekelis America LITERALLY brags about "nation building" in lands halfway across the globe. I think EVERY school in the US should be a wealthy school.
We don’t care about all children in the US as much as we should. I’m a teacher and the inequity really hits you in the face and you have no control over it.
The title of this is confusing. They don’t really explain what is meant by modern segregation until 7 minutes and something. It seems dangerous to refer to the unequal distribution of race/wealth/cultures in schools as segregation, when 60 years ago it literally meant you were not allowed to attend a certain school if your skin was of color. A young student having the opportunity to attend a magnet school outside of her neighborhood (wow! 14 miles!) is a lot different than forcing someone to go to a shitty faraway school with huge class size and few materials just because they’re black.
Wow. This was me. I am from Far Rockaway, Queens and I decided that I would go to Hillcrest High School which was an hour and half away from home because that high school was leaps and bounds better than my zoned school. Hillcrest High school was well known for its strong pre-med program and I knew i needed that program to propel in me the direction I wanted to go. Fast forward almost 18 years later and I am now a physician. This young later reminded me of the long trek I took daily just for a better education. I was involved in college credit courses, and the track team for a short time and I found myself getting home late into the night because of the long, arduous trek. I thank God I didn't let the distance deter me and my immigrant parents from Haiti encouraged me to pursue the best that would best support my goals. No child should have to do this just to be in a school that fosters a love for learning. Every school should offer a safe, top-notch learning environment.
Brings tears to my eyes seeing new generations continue to shape the future and take things into their own hands. History does not have to repeat itself. You can change it but it takes a group effort and hard work. Education and patience. I hope the fire inside their hearts never burns out.
Same. Usually this kind of stuff makes me cringe. Life has turned me cynical. The government in general has almost erased whatever optimism I had left for the future 😅 But more and more lately, I can see how much power and strength these kids will have. It gives me hope. And nostalgia. They’ll have their own “culture wars” I’m sure, but I think they may be far better equipped to handle them than previous generations were. Looking forward to them making changes as the years go by
@@HenriettaHudson-we4wv don’t worry I think there’s still a sad little shred of patriotism buried under the layers of disillusionment, apathy, and nihilist turmoil. I’ll be sticking around for this ride wherever it goes 🤘🏻🫠 Thank you as well! ✌🏻
My sister lives in a low income apartment in Texas that’s surrounded by a nice neighborhood with a elementary school next door but when she went to enroll my niece they said the school dosent take children from that district and she has to go to a school 3x farther away and closer to city center. Insane.
Everything has to do with money. If you make more money, you will live in a better neighborhood. If you live in a better neighborhood, your school will be better. That’s it
That's why changing housing policy is the key. The poorer neighborhoods need to be rebuilt so that more affluent folks will want to at least take a look at those places and consider moving there. But one of the problems is that poor neighborhoods for many years were mostly ignored for redevelopment projects, and were left to rot. And after all these years we continue to fund most education with property tax dollars, which is contingent on property values.
What does "better" mean if your children aren't even learning anything about who they are. You send them to school everyday to be taught by the same people that tried to destroy you? That doesnt seem very smart....
Systemic wealth and income inequality exacerbated by corporate greed and the super wealthy billionaires not properly taxed is what drives this segregation and makes inflation worse. I used to work as a TSS (therapeutic staff support) worker in schools with children. Most of the schools felt segregated, severely underfunded with overcrowded classrooms and overwhelmed teachers and staff members. Most of these kids were coming from impoverished and poverty stricken neighborhoods as well. They didn’t respect anything or anyone else, including themselves or their education because none of them felt they would ever escape their poverty. Poverty in America is never truly shown or talked about. It’s a travesty that we can’t properly tax the rich, stop burning money on wars, pass stricter gun laws, and reinvest this money on things people need (public education, infrastructure, affordable housing and universal healthcare).
The government is also the issue too. While race wasn't a factor, now it is, and it's alienated white students more than ever, causing inequality across the board.
@@DrAngelKinsoh yeah its totally white people who feel alienated. Not like a man followed by half the country is constantly disparaging black and brown people live on public television or anything. No, its the downtrodden white folk that are alienated. Get real
I'm curious do you support school choice. Like I live in a city it's not the best city but live in a nicer part of the city and can afford to send my kids to private school I'm not rich or anything I just have parents who are willing to help. I genuinely feel bad for the kids that have to go to school in this crappy city. If we had school choice it would allow people who arent as fortunate as me to send their kids to better schools
@@etheu9sby292 thank you for asking this very important question. In certain other more liberally democratic European countries (like Norway, Finland, Denmark etc.), where the population is more homogeneously white, on average, they have laws that force all citizens to send their children to the same public schools, no private or charter schools. What this means is that even the rich and poor parents alike are incentivized to want to raise their own taxes in order to help better fund their own public schools that they all send their children to. Obviously the children also benefit too, since they get to grow up amongst one another and build long lasting life long friendships. This usually also leads to less socioeconomic conflicts in the future for their respective countries. Here in America the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and racial and wealth inequality start to become systemic problems within society by design. Our laws should probably be amended to better benefit everyone in society.
Why is this a hard issue to fix? If school funding is unequal, then just pass a law that requires all States to ensure that funding per pupil in all schools is the same. Ban all PTA self funding. There are plenty of affluent schools where the PTA funds extra teachers, classes, clubs, sports, tutors, etc...tons of stuff that schools in poorer areas would never get. Make funding adequate and make it equal.
Because why should parents who worked hard to provide their kids good education have programs stripped to pay for schools who just pass people to pass them with most of the money going to useless officials
Once the ghetto community stops voting in and protecting people like Tiffany Haynard, I'll listen. Corruption is everywhere, but she's so blatant with it, and people stull support her. At least have the decency to hide it abit
@@riccorichif it’s equal, then there is no DEI. That’s the point. And to the other reply: sure, it could be shitty. Just like everything can be shitty no matter how much money is there. If it’s not allocated responsibly, it’ll surely be just as bad if not worse. But by equally distributing the funds, there is no excuse for letting it continue on into eternity. There’s no reason why we, the wealthiest country in the world, are not able to have the best schools for the future American citizenry.
The U.S. loves to feign ignorance about obvious issues shrugging its shoulders with a collective “oh well” sigh. The root cause of persistent segregation in schools is finances. Blacks have been historically pigeonholed into certain areas, the schools in those areas have been intentionally underfunded by the state. Those schools often produce students that are not college ready and have to take low skill low wage positions in the work force. Causing them to have to find housing in “affordable communities” to raise their families, which often have lower grade schools thus the cycle repeats itself. Yet on the conversation of reparations there is no political will to address the persistent root cause FINANCES.
You are correct; finances certainly cause segregation. Living in a low income area with kids going to a school that is struggling funding-wise does not = the cycle repeating however. Home life/culture plays a HUGE part in a child's future. My husband came to this country when he was 15. He didn't speak English & lived in an unfinished basement in Brooklyn. His family struggled to eat. He got a job after school to help pay the rent. He did not go to a good school; his ESL class was garbage, so after work he went to an ESL class that was free to new immergrants. He worked hard & received a full college scholarship. My father was raised on a farm. He grew up eating primarily only what the family grew or raised; bananas & white bread were a TREAT for him. He did not get a scholarship, instead he went into debt to get a college education. He didn't want to do farm work for the rest of his life. He took the financial risk of getting a higher education. Although it was stressful, ultimately it was the right call. We choose our path. Some of us are dealt better cards than others, but the cards we are given do not fully decide our future. ❤
Actually some of the worst schools have a higher per pupil spending than the schools in the suburbs. The city I live in is worse education wise than the 2 towns next to it yet they spend more money per student than the two towns do. This issue has more to do with over 60% of black kids growing up without a father. Which statistically means they are less likely to graduate high school nevermind attend college.
When I was in school getting my teaching degree my professor said, and it is true, “we don’t have an education problem in America, we have a HOUSING problem in America. If neighborhoods are segregated, so are schools. We cannot expect schools to fix the problems of the larger society.
It’s what’s called Defecto Segregation-aka Segregation by society as opposed to Dejure Segregation which is segregation by law.And that’s something that will never go away.
And in a free society, people should associate with whom they choose, whether it's diverse or not. Governmental forced segregation should not be permitted - but I don't see that it is, at least in a widespread manner.
Ye S, my children also had to endured that long bus ride and I told them to read , to study, to meditate on that bus! I live in Philadelphia so it's pains me to know that the state of public transportation is no longer safe, so I know tell my son to pay attention to the characters coming on the train and remember how to exit in case of emergency
You simply cannot make people live where they do not wish to live. Legislate all you want, but people will still choose to live and educate their children where they want. Mandatory busing resulted in either white flight or the proliferation of private schools. It is what it is.
@@blackout07blueI went to a private school and in the 4th grade the school did a voucher program were the government paid for poorer families education. Vast majority of those voucher kids were bullies and disruptive. Completely changed our school over the years and all the rich kids got taken out by their parents. That’s the reality in my area.
Forcing people together who don't want to peacefully coexist is ludicrous. People need to learn to be comfortable in their own communities and build those up.
I was bussed to an all-White school in Detroit in 1971. Over the next few years, whites relocated to the suburbs, and the school became predominantly African American. The same thing happened in the 80s when I began high school. According to recent data, approximately 80% of the students in Detroit public schools are African American, 14% is Hispanic, and 4% is Caucasian.
Yeah, and if it's dangerous and ridden with aggressive out of control kids whose parents don't raise them correctly, then asians and whites will leave....
The US doesn’t actually have a public school system, but private school districts based on the housing families can afford. Until all schools receive the same funding per student and students receive the same quality education, there is no “American public school system.”
Lol as someone who went to the same extremely poor public school as ridiculous alumni from MIT grads to Michelle Williams... Public schools can be amazing....
Except for the fact that cities on average spend more per pupil then the suburbs do. A lot of this has to do with the fact that the education isn't as highly valued in the black and Hispanic community as it is in the white and Asian community. That and the vast majority of black kids are growing up without a father. But a way to fix this is school choice.
@@etheu9sby292 ehh... More of it has to do with how badly larger school districts sqaunder and waste money... look at how much is being paid out for subsidized food for example- suburbs will have less as you have wealthier people- districts unfortunately subsidize food costs a LOT.
@@CandiceMMartinez lol I agree, or maybe at least I dunno spend more taxes on our children here in the US and maybe less on ridiculously overpriced military stuff that is never a normal affordable price.
This isn't really school segregation because black and brown kids from poorer areas can still travel to these better schools. Back when schools were segregated that was not an option because black and brown kids would not have even been allowed at those better schools. This is more about schools having better funding because they're in areas that pay higher property taxes.
If you're black and brown on long Island NY you're not allowed to go anywhere but where you live and long Island is most segregated areas equal to deep south
Been a while since I watched it but my big takeaway from Waiting for Superman was that parents are a huge issue. While the charters in the documentary had more resources than even the schools they were housed in, the response from parents told a huge story. You had a situation where many parents clearly only cared about the education a certain school could provide for their kids and not the education or value of education they could instill upon their kids. No amount of integration, charter schools...stops bad culture. And that bad culture where education isn't really valued, parents "don't' have the time"...crosses racial lines.
I think this title is misleading. A long commute to school doesn’t equal segregation? As a former NYC teacher, one of the things I always admired about the DOE was that all students had equal opportunity to go to amazing middle schools and high schools and didn’t have to attend their zoned schools. In the suburbs, you go wherever your parents pay taxes for you to go. This could mean a great district or an awful district.
It does if your child doesn't have the means to get you there. Yes, you may have a driven parent who can organise for a child to get there. But a child who's parent is working 14 hour days might not have someone to organise them to get to that good school. It comes down to opportunity. If they do have the opportunity that child also loses many hours of their week which could be spent on recreation... which is hugely important for physical and mental health. This is damaging too.
So are schools turning away students of certain races? Because this video makes it seem like that is what is happening. Does desegregation mean having exactly equal numbers of each walk of life? I'm white and the majority of my high-school was Hispanic... but the town I live in is mostly Hispanic. Schools are integrated and are not actively dividing students. You just go to school where you live. I think that this video focuses on the wrong issue, which is economic disparity.
Yes, the title is misleading. I did attend a rural all white high school, but it's because my county was 98% white at that time. People sent their kids to the closest public school. It wasn't intentional segregation. It's just the population. My local high school 30 years later is slowly seeing more diversity as my county becomes more diverse.
I don't think the issue is about schools still turning kids away although that does happen. I'm not sure how it is in NY but where I live being able to attend the better schools is usually based on your zip code. When those schools are opened zip code still plays a role as some don't do bussing or force things like 10 year olds getting on a bus at 5 in the morning. Ultimately you're right about the main issue being economic disparity though. Unfortunately it's easier to talk about schools looking like the segregated past than to ask why so few people have made economic progress since then
Unfortunate, but not very surprising to see these comments that dismiss the parallels between economic disadvantage, and racial inequality. This video is pointing out an unfortunate fact that has been a symptom in America's education system since we in the Black community were allowed to go to school at all. So to see so many Caucasian people in these comments try to downplay inequality that the Black community has BEEN going through to promote the narrative that "white people can be disadvantaged too" is really giving "all lives matter" vibes. No one is saying that economic inequality is not a general problem in America that transcends things like race and culture. No one is saying that poor white people do not face their own form of struggle, mistreatment, and discrimination. But, the fact of the matter is systemically, it tends to hit POC harder, particularly in the black community, than it does systemically with White people. You have poor white people that still own their own homes. You have poor white people that still on their own businesses! And poor White people have still been more likely to be hired for a workplace position or be approved for a loan at a bank, while being less likely to be fired from a job, or denied a promotion as compared to a POC counterpart, particularly a Black person. So if the mention of inequality and disparaging circumstances of POC only triggers a "what about me" reaction from you as a white person who comes from a lower class background, that speaks to an even deeper issue which goes back to White supremacy. You feel that a cause has to be about you as a white person in order for it to matter, which is reductive. And this is why we in the Black community tend to just stick to ourselves, and fight for our own welfare and well-being. We know we generally have been not cared about by other races. So we know we need to make what affects us about us. If you want to do the same with you and yours, by all means, go ahead. But don't act like your struggle is like that of a POC, particularly a Black person in America just because you struggled financially. Our struggles for a good quality of life have been way deeper than just a lack of funds.
Schools aren't just becoming segregated they already are. I'm a black 50 years old female, born in 1974, and I remember how it was. In elementary school, from kindergarten through 4th grade, it was all Black kids. By the time I hit 5th and 6th grade, there were some white kids, but still, most of the students were Black. In high school, during my senior year, it was about half Black and half white. But now, the school where I graduated 12th grade is all Black and Hispanic students. Back in the '80s, schools were still pretty segregated where I grew up in southern Tennessee.
The biggest segregation is by class, not race. There is still racial segregation, but the push for charter schools and school vouchers will widen the economic segregation of schools.
This is partly explained by the gap in homeownership rate, median income, and total wealth by race and ethnicity. Students tend to go to school within a certain distance from their homes.
"Segregation is back" because of reporters like you. People who clickbait others and spread misleading information to incite animosity and mistrust among regular people.
I'm sorry, but one reason why as blacks we continue to perform worse academically is because parents aren't doing their part at home. it has nothing to do with who u sit next to in terms of race.
There are other factors too, but you pointed out one of them. Don't be sorry about it. If parents don't take bullying seriously, or really get after their kids about grades, kids will suffer. I know I did. I wish my parents would have pushed me more, and paid more attention to why I was so miserable at school. I wish I'd stood up and opted for homeschooling when I was in middle/high school. I KNOW my grades would have been better because I wouldn't have been bullied.
This girl's experience traveling reminded me of my experience going to high school and I graduated in 1998. Fortunately since then the school has moved to a more convenient location and the commute time would be cut in half.
I am so thankful my children go to school on a military base. The military is so naturally diverse with so many different types of people that it actually feels very naturally cohesive.
I remember going to school as a black boy, and students would say…”You sound White, you dress like a Caucasian.” Like I was trying to be something I’m not smh.😢
Non-white school?? You gotta to be kidding me. The reason the majority of folks in that particular school is "minority" is because the folks that live in the area that school serves are "minorities." It's not rocket science. If you want to send you kids to another school, they will have to travel to that district. Funding, is based on the taxes for that district. So if the folks aren't paying taxes appropriately or the money isn't being used appropriately then the funding will go down and the education system will begin to fail. None of this is due to race. All schools are integrated by federal law.
Rich areas with high property values get well-funded schools. Poor areas with low property values get poor funding. This turns schools from being a great equalizer, to a perpetrator of inequality. I went ot many schools growing up and the difference was stunning. In a poor-district school, there were no working instruments and the kids couldn't afford their own, so music lessons were a joke. The building was crumbling, teachers had classes of 30 instead of 15 like in rich schools. The poor crumbling schools could only afford teachers who were bottom of the barrel. Rich kids get good schools with loads of resources, poor kids get miserable, desperate schools, all because of basing funding by property taxes. That needs to end.
@@GDUBLU_Fan I heard Texas' education funding is complex, where some of the funding from richer neighborhoods goes to pay for some of the education in the poorer neighborhoods, or something like that.
I work in a small town where the population is approx. 50/50, yet the local public schools have mostly minority students (75% Latino) as the caucasian students attend mostly private schools.
The question is should the Latino school be getting money from those white taxpayers, or should it be a voucher the white kids can spend at a private school. Latino school resources prolly struggling already.
Diversity and integration are not the same thing. Integration was to give blacks the same educational opportunities as whites. Diversity is dependent on location. New York City is not the same as small town Iowa or inner city Detroit. The lack of diversity does not equal segregation.
Like mother like daughter! I see two beautiful, strong and brilliant woman searching for the best opportunities that life can give them to change the world. Too bad that public schools are not equipped to welcome diversity and provide decent education for all equally.
Stop wasting resources to get into “their” schools and fight to improve the schools in your own community. Why are they under funded ALL SCHOOLS SHOULD BE EQUAL!!!!
When I was 7 years old I was denied an education because I was a male in all female teacher School. To this day the absolute hell that I endure has still haunt me, still affects me, and it's still holding me back from living the life that I know I can live. I just want to create things that would benefit mankind.
Segregation just isnt racist now, its largely based on the community each school is based around. This isnt really a school issue its a social and economic issue.
You don't have to have a teacher with the same skin color as you to learn. What a ridiculous belief that is propagated throughout society. Complain when your classmates are the same race as you. Complain when your classmates are not the same race. Why not just focus on finding an education and let the teachers teach?
It sounds to me like this is more a matter of freedom of association. Like if my neighborhood is predominantly Hispanic, then the schools will also be predominantly Hispanic.
@@bizzyfit2128let her go to a Detroit school that receives the most funding in the state, that’s dominate black. Detroit produces the most violent and worst students in the state. Sometimes going through hoops is worth it, her mother must love her
It has more to do with economic status than race. Most Blacks and Latinos are low-income, while most Whites and Asians make the highest income in America. Therefore their schools receive more funding than the schools located in lower-income areas. I feel this is why people need to build up their communities instead of flocking to the ones already established.
Build up their communities when majority of them don't even live in single family homes..the average income is likely to be just above poverty level...you're not making any sense.
@@LegendsofVana The insidious nature of the oppression of black and brown communities was intentional and generational. Low-income families are probably some of the hardest working Americans in the country because they have to work twice as hard to be on the same playing level. It was designed that way with 'Separate but not Equal.'. Your privilege is showing....
@@josiahthebrain8075It's not easy, but achievable. The southeast Asians were refugees that came to the US with nothing. I went to school with many of them. They studied hard in school without help at home because their parents spoke no or little English. They went on to good colleges and pull themselves out of poverty. Why don't we see this as much in black and Latino communities? It's because education isn't placed as top priority. I would even say that in the black community, they hurt their own by labeling any studious black student as not "acting black" instead of praising and encouraging it.
Unfortunately, you can’t force people to let go of their hate. The rise in vouchers, charter schools, private schools, homeschooling are all the evidence you need.
Nah fam it ain't hate I'm just not gonna make my kids go to shitty school. Like I told my wife it's not to much to ask for my kids school to not have gangs in it. So ya I send my biracial kids to a private school.
I met a PoC person who said they wanted segregated schools. I was like whaat? The only time it makes sense to me is gifted kids being together or kids who aren't familiar with English being together. Like gifted kids should not be held back if they are ready for harder work and the kids struggling shouldn't be forced to move on before they're ready. Learning is a spectrum & it can ebb and flow.
It's concerning how we continue to self-segregate. Howard is 98% Black, while American University, only six miles away, is 95% White. These non-Black students will never be exposed to brilliant Black minds just down the road. This separation means they miss out on engaging with talented Black peers during critical developmental years. By the time they enter the workforce, implicit biases may already be deeply ingrained, limiting meaningful cross-cultural understanding and collaboration.
The same can be said for the black students at Howard. The black students at Howard will never be exposed to the talented non-black students at American University.
I’m not sure what she is complaining about in this story. First part is she has to travel far for a school that she is choosing to go to. The local far rockaway school which I live by is mostly black and Hispanic because that who lives in the area… the school is not segregated it’s just who is locally living there. She does not like the local school so she is deciding to go to one far away. The second thing she was complaining about is when she lived in forest hills the school was too white for her to feel like she fit in… that was only just her feeling so she did not like that. Feels like this story is reaching really hard to find a problem and to blame it on others.
Nah schools been like this . They just separate the bad and good students now… they separated the smart vs the average and the privilege vs the poor public school
Not bad and good they are good students are VERY smart but because they living in the wrong part of the neighborhood or the parents can’t afford it or they have to make ends meet it’s not always the good vs the bad we have bad kids in PRIVATE schools too and they do it because the parents pay for it and they know it … but basically the rich vs the poor they do this in school and life taxes are based off of income alone but I will say this though the kids that worked their way to success are more HUMBLE and grateful vs the ones that were carried..
The segregation that is actually happening is between those with wealth and those that do not have wealth. Im white an was stuck in my zip code located school district. The only reason my neice is having school choice is because her parents are willing to drive 2 hours to make sure she gets a good education.
My parents always had me go to the schools I was assigned to, which were considered by many to be "bad" schools. Its true that they were poorer schools, but I think, in hindsight, when i think of the schools in my area that relatives and acquaintences considered to be "bad" schools, and insisted on transferring their kids away from, that race was a huge factor. The underlying thing was always that those "good" schools had more white kids. And i def don't think most the parents I knew that did that had that in mind in a way they were aware of, but it certainly ends up being a common denominator and clearly plays/played a role in perception. I begged my parents to go to other schools at times because I thought the extra programs etc seemed fun, and they were prettier and newer, without any insight on what was happening. My parents also had no insight, I'm sure, on the racial component, and were certainly not making any sort of political decision or statement when they told me no. They just firmly believed and told us that we were not better than anyone else, and we could go where we were assigned, like everyone else. As a result, i consistently went to schools that were probably less than 10% white, something i didn't even notice or think about in that way till this moment, when i saw the statistics in this video and had to think about it, because it was a non issue as a kid that was always in that environment, from the start. I learned to be confident and competent with people from all different backgrounds, learned to speak Spanish, made friends with new immigrants that barely spoke English and we learned to communicate with each other, from Korea and Bangladesh and Romania etc. I didn't think it was extraordinary as i was just a kid and it was just school but it proved to be probably one of the best things my parents could've done for me, without them having that intent, explicitly. I didn't know to be grateful for that until well into adulthood
As long as there will be red lining where BLACK AMERICANS are restricted from living in certain areas ( affluent communities) .. we will always be at a disadvantage…
@@nunyuhbusiness9016it’s not just blacks but Latinos as well a too it’s been segregated financially by people who can’t afford private schools and guess who mostly can the rich and majority are white that can’t based off of living and finance due to circumstances
From a person with kids in high school, our high school is diverse due to our location. Looking at the bigger picture, most of our kids socialize through social media. They talk to kids all over the world. I give our kids more credit for being more aware and accepting. Things have changed. Our kids are much smarter and accepting than the boomers and silent generations and before.
I lived in a low income community and attended a mostly black/hispanic school. My parents moved to this community as immigrants because there was more Latinos there. Despite the lower resources, me and a number of other students, were able togo on to higher education. Some becoming doctors and lawyers. I went the community college route and made it to graduate school at one of the top universities in my state. I now can afford to live in a community where people have more money and my children are attending great schools with many resources. I worked hard and my husband did as well (he had the same experience). There are mostly whites here but there is some diversity.
We had a wealthy local school district where parents bought homes in a neighborhood to go to a certain school. Administrators came up with a plan to bus kids to different schools for more diversity. Parents went ballistic. Their kids were bused out of their neighborhood school to go to different schools. At the end of the day, the rich kids went home to their rich neighborhoods, and the poor kids went home to their poor neighborhoods. It didn't go well. The school close to your home is not diverse. Complicated issues.
Say what you want, but as a grandmother, I want my grandchildren to go to the best school possible. If that means a private school, so be it. I don't want their education interrupted by kids that do not want to learn or cannot speak English.
Stop using property taxes as a basis for scho funding, all it does is worsen inequality! All schools deserve equal funding from tax kiney not tied to how wealthy the individual school district is!
I live a mile from Forest Hills. Hearing that there are ZERO Blalck teachers and just a handful of Black students is really disheartening, though not suprising. It for damn sure shouldn't be like this. Kids shouldn't have to spend 1/3 of their lives traveling to get a good education and be around other kids who look like them and have things in common.
I went to Forest Hills HS and it was pretty diverse although it's primarily a Jewish/Russian neighborhood. According to my school district I was supposed to go to Jamaica HS, which is quite the opposite.
l went to an all white elementary school in Virginia. Didn't go to school with black kids until 8th grade. There weren't any black people living anywhere in the county where I was. The other county schools were like that too. The black kids went to the city schools. It's still like that today.
Back in the day, segregation was forced BECAUSE of color. It's not because of color anymore. There's income disparity between neighborhoods. It's not forced "segregation". Public education is an issue to be dealt with as a whole. This girl is able to go to her school of choice despite living elsewhere. Her mother has chosen to live where they are, in a district with much less resources. Nobody forces her to live there. They could move closer to her school, nobody is forcing them to stay put. Income is definitely an issue, but there are likely places to live closer than 14 miles away that are within their affordability. Good for her for choosing a better education. Now, time to leave the hood. There's nothing forcing them to stay. Ever.
I don't understand what the thesis of this documentary was. I have an open mind, but it just talked about the past and current highschool students' privilege to attend a good school.
School funding needs to be seperated from property tax. There needs to be a per pupil formula so that every school has gets equal funding based on enrollment size.
It breaks my heart how many people are going backwards in their mentality After all the struggles they’ve been through it’s a constant battle to remain equal
After moving around 4 states and several poor to middle class public schools in my lifetime. It is obvious that politics and media don't represent reality.
The problem people don't understand is that most of today's segregation is voluntary. You cannot force people to live in areas or put their kids in schools they don't want to . People will always segregate on social/racial/economic/religious lines. This has been happening since human's existed and is hardwired in our brains.
I remember my senior year of highschool, the same year they cancelled our bus system for inner city kids. It gave me shivers that first day back to school when I looked around and our student population was at least 95% white. And many of the kids I had known since kindergarten suddenly weren't there. It was a haunting feeling.
Still putting my kids through private school go cry about it, if public schools wernt filled with gremlins and teachers actually cared more this wouldn't be the case. Its about culture.
They should be included but for crying out loud, Asians is far too broad of a group. I would rather abc talk with more nuance when talking about Asians, Latinos, and even those of African heritage. The country these people or their parents came from is an important factor. After about 2 American born generations, any external influences are practically gone.
This is a 100% true. What there not saying schools are often given resources based on the income levels of parents. I personally went to a school where went on field trips and had clubs. Then I was forced to go to a lower income school where nothing was available unless you were playing sports.
The parents' income has little to do with it. Schools are funded by taxing the houses within its district. The more affluent the house, the more tax dollars go to the schools in its district. A well off couple living in an nice apartment aren't doing much (tax-wise) to fund their local school relative to owning a really nice house and paying homeowner taxes.
New York City school system is one of the most segregated in the country. Race and money defines everything in this country. Lot of us are getting older and the story is not changing. I've given up hope. I don't want my later years to have to be dealing with the same old issues with racist and rich running America into the dirt trying to turn it into Russia. America is not alright.
I hate to play devils advocate on the subject, but I know that for many wealthy “white“ suburban school districts; if they were told that the government was going to start busing minority students from impoverished areas into their school system, parents would start pulling their children out of that school and putting them in private school, or moving further out into the countryside to avoid it. Little Rock Central High School where the Little Rock 9 historical events happened is now a majority minority student population. White people left. The same thing will happen again unfortunately 😢. Then, whether intentional or not; animosity and political pressure will be applied to redirect funds away from the school if the white population stays, now that most of their children go to private school, or if they move away and the tax base collapses, the funds simply won’t be there…
As someone who has subbed and taught in many schools, it's crazy to me how different 2 schools just a 5 minute drive away can be socioeconomically and racially. And the schools with majority poverty never get enough support. Even if the class sizes are the same and the number of adults is the same, students and their needs are not.
So for those schools 5 minutes from each other, are they treated differently by the local government? To what degree are the schools a product of its respective community? It's a hard call, but how much additional effort and funding should be given to schools that simply are not supported by their community? While I despise the rote "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps," there is an element of truth in it. Governments should treat schools equally; however, the school success does largely depend on the efforts and attitudes of the community.
Well when the tenured staff and faculty aren't the same as the student population racially or socioeconomically, it then becomes a systemic reinforcement of segregation.
Even when these schools receive more funding they are still worse. What makes a school good is parent involvement. Not cash. Baltimore schools receive crazy funding and they still suck
Most of this segregation has more to do with culture, family, income and such. The journalist who did this piece is named "Ike Ejiochi" which means he's likely a child of Igbo immigrants from the country of Nigeria. Nigerians are Black or Negro. It's very likely his children go to good schools. That's not because of his race, it's because of his achievements. Some of those achievements MAY have been made possible by his family culture or maybe the QUALITY of his CHARACTER that Martin Luther King talked about. The truth is that MOST FAMILIES in the USA, even starting from the very bottom of the economic ladder, can make good decisions that will get them in the middle class within one or two generations. The markers of poverty in the USA are well known. This country has made a lot of progress in fairer justice and equal OPPORTUNITY for individuals of all races and religions. It's MOSTLY about individual decisions and family now, race plays a smaller part.
Why is it always about segregation when the key issue has always been financial and resources. Give the school districts financial support to even the playing field and stop the smoke and mirrors with this segregation narrative. Majority of US citizens live in close proximity to similar ethnicities or culturals that will never end. Just even the playimh field with funding.
America is always recycling the same old issues
Sadly…
We subconsciously like sequels.
The more things change, the more they stay the same...
Also: the kids cant read. They stopped reading 25 years ago
Three minutes in and I still don't get the video...
Frankly though each group in the US has their own subculture and that's why it may not be about segregation but more about finding people you have things in common with.
School segregation at this point is financial. You pay more for houses and pay more taxes for the schools, the schools then have more money and education for the kids per student goes up. Historically non-white people cannot afford the homes or taxes for homes with good schools. While overt redlining is gone, there are still basic financial pieces that lead to segregation.
Yea that’s true but white kids have been leaving public schools since 2000 my graduation class in 2014 was the class to be integrated.
In late 2022 I was making around $70K/year at my job and had close to $30K in savings. No collections no credit card debt or any debt above $500ish dollars and a credit score of 750 that would fluctuate up and down by a few points every month. Oh and I almost forgot I had a letter to confirm that I had been prequalified by my bank for a loan of $450K. I live in the Denver/Aurora area. Late that year I made an appointment to see my first home that I could potentially buy to become a homeowner. The website I was using to look at and save homes that I was interested in picked a realtor for me (probably the biggest mistake of the ordeal that I made). When I spoke with the realtor on the phone about the first house we would go to look at I suspect that she may have thought that I was probably a white guy. I came to this realization some time after all of this. Nonetheless I met her at the first house we would tour that day. Oh and this house was in a very “NICE” neighborhood. When I got out of the car there was a white guy across the street who just starred at me when he saw me. That’s not a good sign. Then I walked up to the white realtor who was already standing at the door opening it so that we could take a look at the house. When I said greeted her she may not have realized it but I saw it, she paused for a good brief moment before turning around to return the greeting. I should have paid attention to these two incidents but the excitement of touring my first house was overwhelming. We went inside and looked it all over and she saw my “prequal” letter from my bank. And to give some context to the house we were looking at it was if I can recall a 4bdrm 2 and half bath 3000+ sqft house for $420k and was about 10 mins away from the Denver Airport that I worked at. This was through and through a fixer upper. Mold in the basement and a hole in the ceiling (not the roof) to name a few issues with it. This house had been on the market for close to a year with little to no traffic, in a market at the time in Denver where houses were being sold for $80K over asking price.
After we talked about the house and the process of it all we went to the next place I was interested in. It was a 3bdrm 2bath townhouse 1300sqft for $300k if I recall. It also needed a little bit of work. But much much less work than the first place we looked at. We talked some more and then I told her that we would call it a day and that I would get back to her on these places and try to find a couple of other places to look at as well. A few days go by and I decided to look at the first house online to see if there was any activity on it (like if the price had gone down). To my surprise it had a pending sale on it. I scrolled down to see when the offer was placed and it turns out the offer was placed the day that I went to go look at the house. We had looked at it that morning and coincidentally that same day an offer was placed. The house sold and about 5 to 6 months later I decided to look up the house again online to see if maybe the buyer got overwhelmed by the repair needed to be done on the house and put it back up for sale. Turns out it had been put back on the market but not at the same price of roughly $420k. It had sold again for $620K+. Someone had flipped it and repaired everything and probably made a profit of $130K+. After all of this went down I realized that the homeowner had an investor who was in the business of flipping houses in their back pocket so that if someone who looked like me came around they could keep me and anyone else like me out of the area by selling quickly to that investor/flipper.
I wouldn't say "historically" non-white people couldn't afford homes or taxes with good schools.
Historically, neighborhoods with good schools also refused to sell homes to non-white buyers even though they had the money to buy.
They then had no choice to buy homes in worse neighborhoods.
Meanwhile, the value of the homes in the good neighborhoods increased exponentially leading to greater wealth for the people in thise neighborhoods, while the houses in the not-so-good neighborhoods rose only a little, leading to a wealty gap.
So the wealth disparity is completely by design.
@MM-yz7fz That's why schools should not be funded by property taxes. Equal education means the same should be spent on every student, which means NO student should be shortchanged.
It’s really bizarre that the US preaches freedom while the economic and surveillance apartheid is just ignored as a fact of life.
IKR???
America's a joke tbh
Society over there has been fucked for quite some time. There's no saving it
@@Deangirl4evaRepublikkkans are the segregationist particularly maga republikkkans!
@@Deangirl4evaRepublikkkans are the segregationist not Democrats and especially maga republikkkans. #HARRIS/WALZ2024WEWWONTGOBACK!!!!!
“Segregation is back at the same level as the 1960s”
As a black Mississippian-that seems like a hell of a misleading statement
The narrator sounded as if every school that has a majority of one or the other was by definition a symptom of segregation, which is not even logical.
It’s not just look up the data
@@warlockpaladin2261What are you talking about?
Right. I feel like they’re talking about diversity not integration. Those are very different concepts.
When asked "why are schools still segregated today?" She gave some long winded vocabulary 'i have no answer' response. Basic answer is that people want it like that, black people especially included!
Schools to me have always been for the most part segregated.
EXACTLY..with malicious intent💯
So true
Depending on the area, I went to school with a good mix of everyone. But the school a few miles down the road didn't have and still doesn't have many black kids.
@@rachelmoore1991 yeah that’s that’s true because here in California in the San Fernando Valley in the poor neighborhoods all the Mexicans live in the poor neighborhoods are considering the Latinos living in that area in the poor areas the predominant kid group in the elementary school technically is Latinos
Unfortunately, yes!!1 Let's work to change it!!!
Schools have been segregated for decades now. Yes there are schools that are diverse, but most schools are are segregated by race and wealth. That's never going to change. Most people wether they want to admit it or not they don't want to change a thing
People generally choose to live around people like themselves...
I admit,i don't want a change.
Only a small amount of school funding comes from the state. The majority comes from the cities. So segregation by wealth has been and always will be a thing until they change that
@@valevisa8429 I admit it too. Gladly in fact
This is the real tragedy of the western world . . . And the human race!!!
I am a teacher in a public school district that has open enrollment across the district, K-12. Because I live in an area that also has high private school enrollment, we lose some of the affluence within our schools (for better or worse). However, I would like to think that the diversity in our schools is a blessing to us. The downside is that there is always a bus that shows up late because they are taking kids from one side of town to the other, who are "out of district."
As for the experience of a predominantly white/suburban school, verses a predominantly black/urban school, I was surprised one day when speaking to a coworker (before I transitioned back to teaching) that she had never heard the music of a chorus together or of an orchestra together. She was black and went to an urban school that didn't offer music, or if they had, it was poorly run/attended. I was simultaneously shocked and saddened as a musician. Music and the arts help make the world go round!
Bless you
im not from the USA, but access to the arts was reserved for "good schools" as in, wealthy and of a certain race predominantly
@@janaekelismostly wealth. I'm black but the schools I went to I was able to be apart of the violin classical ensemble and jazz band.
I’m black and went to predominately-white suburban schools my whole life and I didn’t *fully* realize until early adulthood just how much of a privilege it was just to go to the types of schools I went to- all because of the zip code I had.
I remember when I was like 19 or 20 I was talking about how banks use your money to a black boy about my age from the city and he was asking how I “knew so much about this already”. I just responded “I remember it from the first semester of my High schools financial literacy & management class”. He was so surprised that was offered and eagerly asked about all the other electives that my school offered and how wide-eyed he was a very sobering experience
@@janaekelis America LITERALLY brags about "nation building" in lands halfway across the globe. I think EVERY school in the US should be a wealthy school.
How sick, and wicked one must be to intentionally sabotage kids?
We don’t care about all children in the US as much as we should. I’m a teacher and the inequity really hits you in the face and you have no control over it.
A person, group or organization without a soul or a conscience!!!
They had black school, as good as white schools. Communists wanted to destroy both races
Thats the racism for you.
@@PrettyEyesznot just racism but discrimination against children with learning disabilities
The title of this is confusing. They don’t really explain what is meant by modern segregation until 7 minutes and something. It seems dangerous to refer to the unequal distribution of race/wealth/cultures in schools as segregation, when 60 years ago it literally meant you were not allowed to attend a certain school if your skin was of color. A young student having the opportunity to attend a magnet school outside of her neighborhood (wow! 14 miles!) is a lot different than forcing someone to go to a shitty faraway school with huge class size and few materials just because they’re black.
I'm really glad someone mentioned this. I felt like I was missing something while watching this because the video didn't really add up to the title.
It's a clickbait title, designed to attract attention. And it worked.
True. Though there is de facto segregation which isn't a forced segregation but still problematic
Valid
Well said!!
Wow. This was me. I am from Far Rockaway, Queens and I decided that I would go to Hillcrest High School which was an hour and half away from home because that high school was leaps and bounds better than my zoned school. Hillcrest High school was well known for its strong pre-med program and I knew i needed that program to propel in me the direction I wanted to go. Fast forward almost 18 years later and I am now a physician. This young later reminded me of the long trek I took daily just for a better education. I was involved in college credit courses, and the track team for a short time and I found myself getting home late into the night because of the long, arduous trek. I thank God I didn't let the distance deter me and my immigrant parents from Haiti encouraged me to pursue the best that would best support my goals. No child should have to do this just to be in a school that fosters a love for learning. Every school should offer a safe, top-notch learning environment.
Trump and Republicans would say they are glad you’re not eating dogs and cats.
Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world where getting a top notch education is possible.
The distance is unfortunate but you overcame it all and are a stronger person. Tell your story to students who are at disadvantage ❤
Brings tears to my eyes seeing new generations continue to shape the future and take things into their own hands. History does not have to repeat itself. You can change it but it takes a group effort and hard work. Education and patience. I hope the fire inside their hearts never burns out.
Same. Usually this kind of stuff makes me cringe. Life has turned me cynical. The government in general has almost erased whatever optimism I had left for the future 😅
But more and more lately, I can see how much power and strength these kids will have. It gives me hope. And nostalgia.
They’ll have their own “culture wars” I’m sure, but I think they may be far better equipped to handle them than previous generations were.
Looking forward to them making changes as the years go by
Thank you!!!
@@veronikalynn5084 Don't ever give up!!!
@@HenriettaHudson-we4wv don’t worry I think there’s still a sad little shred of patriotism buried under the layers of disillusionment, apathy, and nihilist turmoil. I’ll be sticking around for this ride wherever it goes 🤘🏻🫠
Thank you as well! ✌🏻
Brookdale Comunity college at Lincroft, NJ segrege students they block them por taking regular classes that the student qualified.
My sister lives in a low income apartment in Texas that’s surrounded by a nice neighborhood with a elementary school next door but when she went to enroll my niece they said the school dosent take children from that district and she has to go to a school 3x farther away and closer to city center. Insane.
Yeah that’s how school districts work. They might be able to apply for open enrollment but there ultimately has to be a line drawn somewhere.
@@adamheuer8502 Key word “surrounded” by a nice neighborhood. They’re apart of it.
Crazy becus what determinants are those school districts using exactly?
@@azulaquaza4916 And the school district doesn’t include them?
@@adamheuer8502 Yup, turned em away and referred other schools after seeing the address
This young lady is so bright and so is her mom . I hope she continues to succeed, regardless of the obvious segregation…
Because she went to good schools.
Everything has to do with money. If you make more money, you will live in a better neighborhood. If you live in a better neighborhood, your school will be better. That’s it
That's why changing housing policy is the key. The poorer neighborhoods need to be rebuilt so that more affluent folks will want to at least take a look at those places and consider moving there. But one of the problems is that poor neighborhoods for many years were mostly ignored for redevelopment projects, and were left to rot. And after all these years we continue to fund most education with property tax dollars, which is contingent on property values.
@@kasoniakisangani you just advocated for gentrification. You just wanna extirpate impoverished folk.
@@kasoniakisangani rebuild poorer neighborhoods? That’s called Gentrifying and is frowned upon people Black people.
That is the PROBLEM! WEALTH SHOULDN'T be a determinant in ACCESSING QUALITY EDUCATION!
What does "better" mean if your children aren't even learning anything about who they are. You send them to school everyday to be taught by the same people that tried to destroy you? That doesnt seem very smart....
Systemic wealth and income inequality exacerbated by corporate greed and the super wealthy billionaires not properly taxed is what drives this segregation and makes inflation worse. I used to work as a TSS (therapeutic staff support) worker in schools with children. Most of the schools felt segregated, severely underfunded with overcrowded classrooms and overwhelmed teachers and staff members. Most of these kids were coming from impoverished and poverty stricken neighborhoods as well. They didn’t respect anything or anyone else, including themselves or their education because none of them felt they would ever escape their poverty. Poverty in America is never truly shown or talked about. It’s a travesty that we can’t properly tax the rich, stop burning money on wars, pass stricter gun laws, and reinvest this money on things people need (public education, infrastructure, affordable housing and universal healthcare).
Thank you!!!
The government is also the issue too. While race wasn't a factor, now it is, and it's alienated white students more than ever, causing inequality across the board.
@@DrAngelKinsoh yeah its totally white people who feel alienated. Not like a man followed by half the country is constantly disparaging black and brown people live on public television or anything. No, its the downtrodden white folk that are alienated. Get real
I'm curious do you support school choice. Like I live in a city it's not the best city but live in a nicer part of the city and can afford to send my kids to private school I'm not rich or anything I just have parents who are willing to help. I genuinely feel bad for the kids that have to go to school in this crappy city. If we had school choice it would allow people who arent as fortunate as me to send their kids to better schools
@@etheu9sby292 thank you for asking this very important question. In certain other more liberally democratic European countries (like Norway, Finland, Denmark etc.), where the population is more homogeneously white, on average, they have laws that force all citizens to send their children to the same public schools, no private or charter schools. What this means is that even the rich and poor parents alike are incentivized to want to raise their own taxes in order to help better fund their own public schools that they all send their children to. Obviously the children also benefit too, since they get to grow up amongst one another and build long lasting life long friendships. This usually also leads to less socioeconomic conflicts in the future for their respective countries. Here in America the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and racial and wealth inequality start to become systemic problems within society by design. Our laws should probably be amended to better benefit everyone in society.
Why is this a hard issue to fix? If school funding is unequal, then just pass a law that requires all States to ensure that funding per pupil in all schools is the same. Ban all PTA self funding. There are plenty of affluent schools where the PTA funds extra teachers, classes, clubs, sports, tutors, etc...tons of stuff that schools in poorer areas would never get. Make funding adequate and make it equal.
There always people who feel they need more or feel more underserved.undeserved.. DEI comes to play
😂 Make everything equal for everybody. Equally shitty
Because why should parents who worked hard to provide their kids good education have programs stripped to pay for schools who just pass people to pass them with most of the money going to useless officials
Once the ghetto community stops voting in and protecting people like Tiffany Haynard, I'll listen. Corruption is everywhere, but she's so blatant with it, and people stull support her. At least have the decency to hide it abit
@@riccorichif it’s equal, then there is no DEI. That’s the point.
And to the other reply: sure, it could be shitty. Just like everything can be shitty no matter how much money is there. If it’s not allocated responsibly, it’ll surely be just as bad if not worse.
But by equally distributing the funds, there is no excuse for letting it continue on into eternity. There’s no reason why we, the wealthiest country in the world, are not able to have the best schools for the future American citizenry.
This is a CLASS issue not a RACE issue.
Very true, America is a very class based country
@@RW-zn8vy what country isn’t?
@@blackout07blue also true
@@RW-zn8vy that's hands down the most stupxd sht I've ever heard. Deflection is real
@@BlackfrodoBaggins it’s true, depending on your wealth you get treated better.
The U.S. loves to feign ignorance about obvious issues shrugging its shoulders with a collective “oh well” sigh. The root cause of persistent segregation in schools is finances. Blacks have been historically pigeonholed into certain areas, the schools in those areas have been intentionally underfunded by the state. Those schools often produce students that are not college ready and have to take low skill low wage positions in the work force. Causing them to have to find housing in “affordable communities” to raise their families, which often have lower grade schools thus the cycle repeats itself. Yet on the conversation of reparations there is no political will to address the persistent root cause FINANCES.
Thank you!!!
You are correct; finances certainly cause segregation. Living in a low income area with kids going to a school that is struggling funding-wise does not = the cycle repeating however. Home life/culture plays a HUGE part in a child's future. My husband came to this country when he was 15. He didn't speak English & lived in an unfinished basement in Brooklyn. His family struggled to eat. He got a job after school to help pay the rent. He did not go to a good school; his ESL class was garbage, so after work he went to an ESL class that was free to new immergrants. He worked hard & received a full college scholarship.
My father was raised on a farm. He grew up eating primarily only what the family grew or raised; bananas & white bread were a TREAT for him. He did not get a scholarship, instead he went into debt to get a college education. He didn't want to do farm work for the rest of his life. He took the financial risk of getting a higher education. Although it was stressful, ultimately it was the right call.
We choose our path. Some of us are dealt better cards than others, but the cards we are given do not fully decide our future. ❤
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Actually some of the worst schools have a higher per pupil spending than the schools in the suburbs. The city I live in is worse education wise than the 2 towns next to it yet they spend more money per student than the two towns do. This issue has more to do with over 60% of black kids growing up without a father. Which statistically means they are less likely to graduate high school nevermind attend college.
These people in modern times were not inslaved and don't deserve repreations
When I was in school getting my teaching degree my professor said, and it is true, “we don’t have an education problem in America, we have a HOUSING problem in America. If neighborhoods are segregated, so are schools. We cannot expect schools to fix the problems of the larger society.
Neighborhoods are segregated because nobody wants to live by y’all.
It’s what’s called Defecto Segregation-aka Segregation by society as opposed to Dejure Segregation which is segregation by law.And that’s something that will never go away.
You cannot stop someone from selling their house and moving away. Period.
And in a free society, people should associate with whom they choose, whether it's diverse or not. Governmental forced segregation should not be permitted - but I don't see that it is, at least in a widespread manner.
Ya I was thinking like you can't force people to interact with each other.
Well, it can be solved, but not in a privatised market. Singapore solved it and their country is less than 100 years old.
"The bluebirds fly with the bluebirds & the redbirds fly with the redbirds" Muhammad Ali.
She's reading "The Bluest Eyes" while sitting on the bus, a masterpiece by the timeless queen of literature, Toni Morrison. ♥
Book is disturbing. It's a good story, but that book messes with your head
Is that sarcasm?
Ye
S, my children also had to endured that long bus ride and I told them to read , to study, to meditate on that bus! I live in Philadelphia so it's pains me to know that the state of public transportation is no longer safe, so I know tell my son to pay attention to the characters coming on the train and remember how to exit in case of emergency
Howard is an HBCU school. It is all-Black mostly, because that is one of the only schools that would accept Blacks for many decades.
Queen of resentment......
You simply cannot make people live where they do not wish to live. Legislate all you want, but people will still choose to live and educate their children where they want. Mandatory busing resulted in either white flight or the proliferation of private schools. It is what it is.
Lol. It’s not about that. It’s about making schools more equal when it comes to resources.
@@blackout07blueI went to a private school and in the 4th grade the school did a voucher program were the government paid for poorer families education. Vast majority of those voucher kids were bullies and disruptive. Completely changed our school over the years and all the rich kids got taken out by their parents. That’s the reality in my area.
@@blackout07blueis retarded
Forcing people together who don't want to peacefully coexist is ludicrous. People need to learn to be comfortable in their own communities and build those up.
I was bussed to an all-White school in Detroit in 1971. Over the next few years, whites relocated to the suburbs, and the school became predominantly African American. The same thing happened in the 80s when I began high school. According to recent data, approximately 80% of the students in Detroit public schools are African American, 14% is Hispanic, and 4% is Caucasian.
Yeah, and if it's dangerous and ridden with aggressive out of control kids whose parents don't raise them correctly, then asians and whites will leave....
The US doesn’t actually have a public school system, but private school districts based on the housing families can afford. Until all schools receive the same funding per student and students receive the same quality education, there is no “American public school system.”
Lol as someone who went to the same extremely poor public school as ridiculous alumni from MIT grads to Michelle Williams... Public schools can be amazing....
Except for the fact that cities on average spend more per pupil then the suburbs do. A lot of this has to do with the fact that the education isn't as highly valued in the black and Hispanic community as it is in the white and Asian community. That and the vast majority of black kids are growing up without a father. But a way to fix this is school choice.
@@etheu9sby292 ehh... More of it has to do with how badly larger school districts sqaunder and waste money... look at how much is being paid out for subsidized food for example- suburbs will have less as you have wealthier people- districts unfortunately subsidize food costs a LOT.
@@MandiTheMerrow That's why we need to raise taxes. Let's save the waste! Oops ... I mean students! Let's save the students!
@@CandiceMMartinez lol I agree, or maybe at least I dunno spend more taxes on our children here in the US and maybe less on ridiculously overpriced military stuff that is never a normal affordable price.
This isn't really school segregation because black and brown kids from poorer areas can still travel to these better schools. Back when schools were segregated that was not an option because black and brown kids would not have even been allowed at those better schools. This is more about schools having better funding because they're in areas that pay higher property taxes.
Give the poorer schools what you give the white schools and that way we can stay separate
There's the Internet now. No excuse.
If you're black and brown on long Island NY you're not allowed to go anywhere but where you live and long Island is most segregated areas equal to deep south
Still segregated by wealth as usual race to but now it’s getting worse
@@beverlyclark9497No one "gave" anything. Those schools were built, maintained, and improved by the very same people who send their kids there.
Watch the documentary "Waiting for superman."
It came out in 2010(ish) but is still valid today. 'Every problem today has roots in the past.'
Thank you!!!
thank you !
Been a while since I watched it but my big takeaway from Waiting for Superman was that parents are a huge issue. While the charters in the documentary had more resources than even the schools they were housed in, the response from parents told a huge story. You had a situation where many parents clearly only cared about the education a certain school could provide for their kids and not the education or value of education they could instill upon their kids. No amount of integration, charter schools...stops bad culture. And that bad culture where education isn't really valued, parents "don't' have the time"...crosses racial lines.
I saw it. Eye-opening.
I think this title is misleading. A long commute to school doesn’t equal segregation? As a former NYC teacher, one of the things I always admired about the DOE was that all students had equal opportunity to go to amazing middle schools and high schools and didn’t have to attend their zoned schools. In the suburbs, you go wherever your parents pay taxes for you to go. This could mean a great district or an awful district.
It does if your child doesn't have the means to get you there. Yes, you may have a driven parent who can organise for a child to get there. But a child who's parent is working 14 hour days might not have someone to organise them to get to that good school. It comes down to opportunity.
If they do have the opportunity that child also loses many hours of their week which could be spent on recreation... which is hugely important for physical and mental health. This is damaging too.
On ray cyst Long Island you black, brown you're not allowed to go nowhere but in your own hood, long Island is like deep south
Long Island NY is more ray cyst than deep south, you not allowed to go anywhere but your district school
@@MrZoomah The DOE pays for metro cards for students to travel.
So are schools turning away students of certain races? Because this video makes it seem like that is what is happening. Does desegregation mean having exactly equal numbers of each walk of life?
I'm white and the majority of my high-school was Hispanic... but the town I live in is mostly Hispanic. Schools are integrated and are not actively dividing students. You just go to school where you live.
I think that this video focuses on the wrong issue, which is economic disparity.
Exactly! 👏 they rushed to make a video without even understanding what they’re talking about.
Yes, the title is misleading. I did attend a rural all white high school, but it's because my county was 98% white at that time. People sent their kids to the closest public school. It wasn't intentional segregation. It's just the population. My local high school 30 years later is slowly seeing more diversity as my county becomes more diverse.
The video does exactly what it was intended to do - promote a narrative, not to provide critical and verifiable analysis.
I don't think the issue is about schools still turning kids away although that does happen. I'm not sure how it is in NY but where I live being able to attend the better schools is usually based on your zip code. When those schools are opened zip code still plays a role as some don't do bussing or force things like 10 year olds getting on a bus at 5 in the morning. Ultimately you're right about the main issue being economic disparity though. Unfortunately it's easier to talk about schools looking like the segregated past than to ask why so few people have made economic progress since then
Unfortunate, but not very surprising to see these comments that dismiss the parallels between economic disadvantage, and racial inequality. This video is pointing out an unfortunate fact that has been a symptom in America's education system since we in the Black community were allowed to go to school at all. So to see so many Caucasian people in these comments try to downplay inequality that the Black community has BEEN going through to promote the narrative that "white people can be disadvantaged too" is really giving "all lives matter" vibes. No one is saying that economic inequality is not a general problem in America that transcends things like race and culture. No one is saying that poor white people do not face their own form of struggle, mistreatment, and discrimination. But, the fact of the matter is systemically, it tends to hit POC harder, particularly in the black community, than it does systemically with White people.
You have poor white people that still own their own homes. You have poor white people that still on their own businesses! And poor White people have still been more likely to be hired for a workplace position or be approved for a loan at a bank, while being less likely to be fired from a job, or denied a promotion as compared to a POC counterpart, particularly a Black person. So if the mention of inequality and disparaging circumstances of POC only triggers a "what about me" reaction from you as a white person who comes from a lower class background, that speaks to an even deeper issue which goes back to White supremacy. You feel that a cause has to be about you as a white person in order for it to matter, which is reductive. And this is why we in the Black community tend to just stick to ourselves, and fight for our own welfare and well-being. We know we generally have been not cared about by other races. So we know we need to make what affects us about us. If you want to do the same with you and yours, by all means, go ahead. But don't act like your struggle is like that of a POC, particularly a Black person in America just because you struggled financially. Our struggles for a good quality of life have been way deeper than just a lack of funds.
Sad we’re still having these conversations, but it’s still needed to highlight in order to change.
Schools aren't just becoming segregated they already are. I'm a black 50 years old female, born in 1974, and I remember how it was. In elementary school, from kindergarten through 4th grade, it was all Black kids. By the time I hit 5th and 6th grade, there were some white kids, but still, most of the students were Black. In high school, during my senior year, it was about half Black and half white. But now, the school where I graduated 12th grade is all Black and Hispanic students. Back in the '80s, schools were still pretty segregated where I grew up in southern Tennessee.
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The biggest segregation is by class, not race. There is still racial segregation, but the push for charter schools and school vouchers will widen the economic segregation of schools.
The poor schools will definitely get much poorer once vouchers are introduced.
This is partly explained by the gap in homeownership rate, median income, and total wealth by race and ethnicity. Students tend to go to school within a certain distance from their homes.
"Segregation is back" because of reporters like you. People who clickbait others and spread misleading information to incite animosity and mistrust among regular people.
I'm sorry, but one reason why as blacks we continue to perform worse academically is because parents aren't doing their part at home. it has nothing to do with who u sit next to in terms of race.
There are other factors too, but you pointed out one of them. Don't be sorry about it. If parents don't take bullying seriously, or really get after their kids about grades, kids will suffer. I know I did. I wish my parents would have pushed me more, and paid more attention to why I was so miserable at school. I wish I'd stood up and opted for homeschooling when I was in middle/high school. I KNOW my grades would have been better because I wouldn't have been bullied.
End funding based on local property tax values, fund them entirely, and equally per capita, by federal taxes, and this problem goes away.
This girl's experience traveling reminded me of my experience going to high school and I graduated in 1998. Fortunately since then the school has moved to a more convenient location and the commute time would be cut in half.
I am so thankful my children go to school on a military base. The military is so naturally diverse with so many different types of people that it actually feels very naturally cohesive.
I remember going to school as a black boy, and students would say…”You sound White, you dress like a Caucasian.”
Like I was trying to be something I’m not smh.😢
Yes, I was bused and my day started at 530am traveling and came home around 5:30pm I feel her pain.
Non-white school?? You gotta to be kidding me. The reason the majority of folks in that particular school is "minority" is because the folks that live in the area that school serves are "minorities." It's not rocket science. If you want to send you kids to another school, they will have to travel to that district. Funding, is based on the taxes for that district. So if the folks aren't paying taxes appropriately or the money isn't being used appropriately then the funding will go down and the education system will begin to fail. None of this is due to race. All schools are integrated by federal law.
Rich areas with high property values get well-funded schools. Poor areas with low property values get poor funding. This turns schools from being a great equalizer, to a perpetrator of inequality. I went ot many schools growing up and the difference was stunning. In a poor-district school, there were no working instruments and the kids couldn't afford their own, so music lessons were a joke. The building was crumbling, teachers had classes of 30 instead of 15 like in rich schools. The poor crumbling schools could only afford teachers who were bottom of the barrel. Rich kids get good schools with loads of resources, poor kids get miserable, desperate schools, all because of basing funding by property taxes. That needs to end.
@@Josh-vc2ulTry moving the Texas, you get more for the same price!
@@Josh-vc2ulyour answer is in your comment, it is about money
@@GDUBLU_Fan I heard Texas' education funding is complex, where some of the funding from richer neighborhoods goes to pay for some of the education in the poorer neighborhoods, or something like that.
I work in a small town where the population is approx. 50/50, yet the local public schools have mostly minority students (75% Latino) as the caucasian students attend mostly private schools.
The question is should the Latino school be getting money from those white taxpayers, or should it be a voucher the white kids can spend at a private school. Latino school resources prolly struggling already.
Its such a blessing that everyone thats apart of the little rock nine are still alive and well today 🙏🏽
This isn’t new . It’s all based on race and wealth in a lot of areas in the United States
For real
Race? What’s an example?
Diversity and integration are not the same thing. Integration was to give blacks the same educational opportunities as whites. Diversity is dependent on location. New York City is not the same as small town Iowa or inner city Detroit. The lack of diversity does not equal segregation.
Like mother like daughter! I see two beautiful, strong and brilliant woman searching for the best opportunities that life can give them to change the world. Too bad that public schools are not equipped to welcome diversity and provide decent education for all equally.
Stop wasting resources to get into “their” schools and fight to improve the schools in your own community. Why are they under funded ALL SCHOOLS SHOULD BE EQUAL!!!!
And how you do intend to do that? Money is all that matters.
When I was 7 years old I was denied an education because I was a male in all female teacher School. To this day the absolute hell that I endure has still haunt me, still affects me, and it's still holding me back from living the life that I know I can live. I just want to create things that would benefit mankind.
Segregation just isnt racist now, its largely based on the community each school is based around. This isnt really a school issue its a social and economic issue.
Well, fair opportunity has always been segregated. Opportunity is nothing without nurture, training, preparation.
Parenting matters and so do fathers....
You don't have to have a teacher with the same skin color as you to learn. What a ridiculous belief that is propagated throughout society. Complain when your classmates are the same race as you. Complain when your classmates are not the same race. Why not just focus on finding an education and let the teachers teach?
I actually did enjoy having lots of races in my college classrooms.
@@blackout07blue A great science or match class doesn't require different races to be effective. It's the "diversity" tail wagging the education dog.
It sounds to me like this is more a matter of freedom of association. Like if my neighborhood is predominantly Hispanic, then the schools will also be predominantly Hispanic.
Momma doing an excellent job. Nothing can stop her
Bc she went to good schools. And has good parents.
Why are they being so sad and dramatic about this girl simply taking the bus to school? There's literal violins playing!
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
She is a young lady that will have success in the future - and will likely leave her old neighborhood behind when she can.
Because she has to jump through hoops just to attend a quality school.
@@bizzyfit2128let her go to a Detroit school that receives the most funding in the state, that’s dominate black. Detroit produces the most violent and worst students in the state.
Sometimes going through hoops is worth it, her mother must love her
Just wait until she finds out you have a 2 hour work commute.
I mean, I had a 90-120 commute for HS, too, also so I could take amazing public classes- the commute was great for homework as home wasn't!
At least she's getting prepared for her future work commute...
It has more to do with economic status than race. Most Blacks and Latinos are low-income, while most Whites and Asians make the highest income in America. Therefore their schools receive more funding than the schools located in lower-income areas. I feel this is why people need to build up their communities instead of flocking to the ones already established.
Build up their communities when majority of them don't even live in single family homes..the average income is likely to be just above poverty level...you're not making any sense.
@@originaldelta Then they should work harder so they can live in single-family homes.
@@LegendsofVana The insidious nature of the oppression of black and brown communities was intentional and generational. Low-income families are probably some of the hardest working Americans in the country because they have to work twice as hard to be on the same playing level. It was designed that way with 'Separate but not Equal.'. Your privilege is showing....
@LegendsofVana If it were that easy to just " work harder " then we wouldn't have this problem.
@@josiahthebrain8075It's not easy, but achievable. The southeast Asians were refugees that came to the US with nothing. I went to school with many of them. They studied hard in school without help at home because their parents spoke no or little English. They went on to good colleges and pull themselves out of poverty. Why don't we see this as much in black and Latino communities? It's because education isn't placed as top priority. I would even say that in the black community, they hurt their own by labeling any studious black student as not "acting black" instead of praising and encouraging it.
Unfortunately, you can’t force people to let go of their hate. The rise in vouchers, charter schools, private schools, homeschooling are all the evidence you need.
Nah fam it ain't hate I'm just not gonna make my kids go to shitty school. Like I told my wife it's not to much to ask for my kids school to not have gangs in it. So ya I send my biracial kids to a private school.
@@etheu9sby292if you live in a better neighborhood you're going to pay better taxes and you expect results from your tax base .
@@claudettedoyley9056 except for the fact that the nicer and wealthier towns normally have lower taxes than cities. And still have better education
I met a PoC person who said they wanted segregated schools. I was like whaat?
The only time it makes sense to me is gifted kids being together or kids who aren't familiar with English being together. Like gifted kids should not be held back if they are ready for harder work and the kids struggling shouldn't be forced to move on before they're ready. Learning is a spectrum & it can ebb and flow.
That POC probably had a bad experience once.
@@blackout07blue Not necessarly. Some just feel comfortable around their own.
They have been segregated since the 80s.
It's concerning how we continue to self-segregate. Howard is 98% Black, while American University, only six miles away, is 95% White. These non-Black students will never be exposed to brilliant Black minds just down the road. This separation means they miss out on engaging with talented Black peers during critical developmental years. By the time they enter the workforce, implicit biases may already be deeply ingrained, limiting meaningful cross-cultural understanding and collaboration.
The same can be said for the black students at Howard. The black students at Howard will never be exposed to the talented non-black students at American University.
It's 76 percent for HU much lower than you think.
And they say black people can't be bias.
@@kingbullyrock8739Interesting how this part is overlooked, eh?
@@kingbullyrock8739You’re missing the point. Get out of your emotions
I’m not sure what she is complaining about in this story. First part is she has to travel far for a school that she is choosing to go to. The local far rockaway school which I live by is mostly black and Hispanic because that who lives in the area… the school is not segregated it’s just who is locally living there. She does not like the local school so she is deciding to go to one far away.
The second thing she was complaining about is when she lived in forest hills the school was too white for her to feel like she fit in… that was only just her feeling so she did not like that.
Feels like this story is reaching really hard to find a problem and to blame it on others.
This is enabling the black victim mentality by other blacks who are enabling this garbage story.
Yeah. I'm also confused.
Yep. She couldn’t focus in class because her teacher didn’t look like her? What? She’s a racist.
She doesn’t know what she wants, she is just looking to be victimized and keep crying. Stop crying we don’t care how black you look, move on
People are going to go where they are comfortable. You can't force people to socialize.
No one is asking to socialise, school is school,uou are there to learn one very front sbout society,your rascist ideology is not part of it,
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I watched the documentary in 2005 on HBO about prom segregation, it was very interesting.
Nah schools been like this . They just separate the bad and good students now… they separated the smart vs the average and the privilege vs the poor public school
Not bad and good they are good students are VERY smart but because they living in the wrong part of the neighborhood or the parents can’t afford it or they have to make ends meet it’s not always the good vs the bad we have bad kids in PRIVATE schools too and they do it because the parents pay for it and they know it … but basically the rich vs the poor they do this in school and life taxes are based off of income alone but I will say this though the kids that worked their way to success are more HUMBLE and grateful vs the ones that were carried..
The segregation that is actually happening is between those with wealth and those that do not have wealth.
Im white an was stuck in my zip code located school district. The only reason my neice is having school choice is because her parents are willing to drive 2 hours to make sure she gets a good education.
My parents always had me go to the schools I was assigned to, which were considered by many to be "bad" schools. Its true that they were poorer schools, but I think, in hindsight, when i think of the schools in my area that relatives and acquaintences considered to be "bad" schools, and insisted on transferring their kids away from, that race was a huge factor. The underlying thing was always that those "good" schools had more white kids. And i def don't think most the parents I knew that did that had that in mind in a way they were aware of, but it certainly ends up being a common denominator and clearly plays/played a role in perception. I begged my parents to go to other schools at times because I thought the extra programs etc seemed fun, and they were prettier and newer, without any insight on what was happening. My parents also had no insight, I'm sure, on the racial component, and were certainly not making any sort of political decision or statement when they told me no. They just firmly believed and told us that we were not better than anyone else, and we could go where we were assigned, like everyone else. As a result, i consistently went to schools that were probably less than 10% white, something i didn't even notice or think about in that way till this moment, when i saw the statistics in this video and had to think about it, because it was a non issue as a kid that was always in that environment, from the start. I learned to be confident and competent with people from all different backgrounds, learned to speak Spanish, made friends with new immigrants that barely spoke English and we learned to communicate with each other, from Korea and Bangladesh and Romania etc. I didn't think it was extraordinary as i was just a kid and it was just school but it proved to be probably one of the best things my parents could've done for me, without them having that intent, explicitly. I didn't know to be grateful for that until well into adulthood
If “race” was a factor, then it was about safety. White people want their kids to be safe first and foremost.
Segregation of people is fine.
Segregation of resources is and has always been the problem.
As long as there will be red lining where BLACK AMERICANS are restricted from living in certain areas ( affluent communities) .. we will always be at a disadvantage…
How are black Americans being restricted from living in affluent communities?
@@nunyuhbusiness9016it’s not just blacks but Latinos as well a too it’s been segregated financially by people who can’t afford private schools and guess who mostly can the rich and majority are white that can’t based off of living and finance due to circumstances
@@janderson947 did you proofread your comment before posting it?
Its funny how asians self segregrate themselves and are top performers
@@janderson947circumstances? Like having a better or a career??
From a person with kids in high school, our high school is diverse due to our location. Looking at the bigger picture, most of our kids socialize through social media. They talk to kids all over the world. I give our kids more credit for being more aware and accepting. Things have changed. Our kids are much smarter and accepting than the boomers and silent generations and before.
I lived in a low income community and attended a mostly black/hispanic school. My parents moved to this community as immigrants because there was more Latinos there. Despite the lower resources, me and a number of other students, were able togo on to higher education. Some becoming doctors and lawyers. I went the community college route and made it to graduate school at one of the top universities in my state. I now can afford to live in a community where people have more money and my children are attending great schools with many resources. I worked hard and my husband did as well (he had the same experience). There are mostly whites here but there is some diversity.
We had a wealthy local school district where parents bought homes in a neighborhood to go to a certain school. Administrators came up with a plan to bus kids to different schools for more diversity. Parents went ballistic. Their kids were bused out of their neighborhood school to go to different schools. At the end of the day, the rich kids went home to their rich neighborhoods, and the poor kids went home to their poor neighborhoods. It didn't go well. The school close to your home is not diverse. Complicated issues.
This is unacceptable
Say what you want, but as a grandmother, I want my grandchildren to go to the best school possible. If that means a private school, so be it. I don't want their education interrupted by kids that do not want to learn or cannot speak English.
The fact that she can go to a better school miles away is awesome.
Stop using property taxes as a basis for scho funding, all it does is worsen inequality! All schools deserve equal funding from tax kiney not tied to how wealthy the individual school district is!
As long as schools are funded through local taxes education will remain inequitable
I live a mile from Forest Hills. Hearing that there are ZERO Blalck teachers and just a handful of Black students is really disheartening, though not suprising. It for damn sure shouldn't be like this. Kids shouldn't have to spend 1/3 of their lives traveling to get a good education and be around other kids who look like them and have things in common.
I went to Forest Hills HS and it was pretty diverse although it's primarily a Jewish/Russian neighborhood. According to my school district I was supposed to go to Jamaica HS, which is quite the opposite.
l went to an all white elementary school in Virginia. Didn't go to school with black kids until 8th grade. There weren't any black people living anywhere in the county where I was. The other county schools were like that too. The black kids went to the city schools. It's still like that today.
Back in the day, segregation was forced BECAUSE of color. It's not because of color anymore. There's income disparity between neighborhoods. It's not forced "segregation". Public education is an issue to be dealt with as a whole. This girl is able to go to her school of choice despite living elsewhere. Her mother has chosen to live where they are, in a district with much less resources. Nobody forces her to live there. They could move closer to her school, nobody is forcing them to stay put. Income is definitely an issue, but there are likely places to live closer than 14 miles away that are within their affordability. Good for her for choosing a better education. Now, time to leave the hood. There's nothing forcing them to stay. Ever.
Maybe she can't afford to move, why be so judgemental
Fatherless homes keeps the black culture in this perpetual cycle
and the partners having bad decision making skills which causes fatherless homes.
I don't understand what the thesis of this documentary was. I have an open mind, but it just talked about the past and current highschool students' privilege to attend a good school.
School funding needs to be seperated from property tax. There needs to be a per pupil formula so that every school has gets equal funding based on enrollment size.
Or just school choice
It's called self segregation
Just let people be with who they want to be with.
It breaks my heart how many people are going backwards in their mentality
After all the struggles they’ve been through it’s a constant battle to remain equal
Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
The most tragic thing is that minorities actually want it that way as well. Schools for only them.
After moving around 4 states and several poor to middle class public schools in my lifetime. It is obvious that politics and media don't represent reality.
Economic inequality. Forced poverty due to inequality. Asians, Indians, Middle easterners don’t see this separation as much
The problem people don't understand is that most of today's segregation is voluntary. You cannot force people to live in areas or put their kids in schools they don't want to . People will always segregate on social/racial/economic/religious lines. This has been happening since human's existed and is hardwired in our brains.
I remember my senior year of highschool, the same year they cancelled our bus system for inner city kids.
It gave me shivers that first day back to school when I looked around and our student population was at least 95% white. And many of the kids I had known since kindergarten suddenly weren't there. It was a haunting feeling.
Feel any safer?
Still putting my kids through private school go cry about it, if public schools wernt filled with gremlins and teachers actually cared more this wouldn't be the case. Its about culture.
Why aren't Asians represented in this report?
Because abc is woke
They’re classified as white
Because they are "honorary Caucasians" according to ABC.
@@XxCørpsegirlXx shouldn't they include Asians if they are woke?
They should be included but for crying out loud, Asians is far too broad of a group. I would rather abc talk with more nuance when talking about Asians, Latinos, and even those of African heritage. The country these people or their parents came from is an important factor. After about 2 American born generations, any external influences are practically gone.
This is a 100% true. What there not saying schools are often given resources based on the income levels of parents. I personally went to a school where went on field trips and had clubs. Then I was forced to go to a lower income school where nothing was available unless you were playing sports.
The parents' income has little to do with it. Schools are funded by taxing the houses within its district. The more affluent the house, the more tax dollars go to the schools in its district. A well off couple living in an nice apartment aren't doing much (tax-wise) to fund their local school relative to owning a really nice house and paying homeowner taxes.
That’s horrible. Is this why you don’t know the difference between “they’re” and “there”?
New York City school system is one of the most segregated in the country. Race and money defines everything in this country. Lot of us are getting older and the story is not changing. I've given up hope. I don't want my later years to have to be dealing with the same old issues with racist and rich running America into the dirt trying to turn it into Russia.
America is not alright.
I hate to play devils advocate on the subject, but I know that for many wealthy “white“ suburban school districts; if they were told that the government was going to start busing minority students from impoverished areas into their school system, parents would start pulling their children out of that school and putting them in private school, or moving further out into the countryside to avoid it. Little Rock Central High School where the Little Rock 9 historical events happened is now a majority minority student population. White people left. The same thing will happen again unfortunately 😢. Then, whether intentional or not; animosity and political pressure will be applied to redirect funds away from the school if the white population stays, now that most of their children go to private school, or if they move away and the tax base collapses, the funds simply won’t be there…
As someone who has subbed and taught in many schools, it's crazy to me how different 2 schools just a 5 minute drive away can be socioeconomically and racially. And the schools with majority poverty never get enough support. Even if the class sizes are the same and the number of adults is the same, students and their needs are not.
Poverty impacts learning in so many ways….
So for those schools 5 minutes from each other, are they treated differently by the local government? To what degree are the schools a product of its respective community?
It's a hard call, but how much additional effort and funding should be given to schools that simply are not supported by their community?
While I despise the rote "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps," there is an element of truth in it. Governments should treat schools equally; however, the school success does largely depend on the efforts and attitudes of the community.
Well when the tenured staff and faculty aren't the same as the student population racially or socioeconomically, it then becomes a systemic reinforcement of segregation.
Even when these schools receive more funding they are still worse. What makes a school good is parent involvement. Not cash. Baltimore schools receive crazy funding and they still suck
Most of this segregation has more to do with culture, family, income and such. The journalist who did this piece is named "Ike Ejiochi" which means he's likely a child of Igbo immigrants from the country of Nigeria. Nigerians are Black or Negro. It's very likely his children go to good schools. That's not because of his race, it's because of his achievements. Some of those achievements MAY have been made possible by his family culture or maybe the QUALITY of his CHARACTER that Martin Luther King talked about.
The truth is that MOST FAMILIES in the USA, even starting from the very bottom of the economic ladder, can make good decisions that will get them in the middle class within one or two generations. The markers of poverty in the USA are well known. This country has made a lot of progress in fairer justice and equal OPPORTUNITY for individuals of all races and religions. It's MOSTLY about individual decisions and family now, race plays a smaller part.
Why is it always about segregation when the key issue has always been financial and resources. Give the school districts financial support to even the playing field and stop the smoke and mirrors with this segregation narrative. Majority of US citizens live in close proximity to similar ethnicities or culturals that will never end. Just even the playimh field with funding.
Republicans are against funding public-education.
America is falling behind compared to other 1st world countries. It’s real unfortunate.
Looks like she made some choices. There’s a cost to her choices. I don’t think this is segregation.
The difference in schools is better books, technology, etc., why not fight for increased funding for the schools in our own neighborhoods.