can you upgrade the toms to the PDX mesh head pieces? We're looking for a starter kit for our 6 year old and eying the Roland stuff because of the upgrade options if he sticks with it. My band's drummer rocks the expensive TD27 kit and loves it and said if it were his kid, he wouldn't consider any other brand.
Yes you technically can, in the sense that both pads use a standard 1/4" cable to trigger the module. But we wouldn't recommend it. They each use a different mounting system, so it would not be an easy swap. Additional hardware would be required. Also, the PDX pads are not exactly inexpensive when purchased as separate components afterwards. Each PDX-8 is $339CAD, so for 3 of them to upgrade the 3 tom pads on the TD-02 would be over $1000. So for $699 for the TD-02 kit, plus $1000 for the PDX pad upgrades for a total of $1700+ you could just get a TD-07KV right from the get-go for $1499. And it comes with a much better module, better hardware, all mesh pads, bigger cymbal pads and a better kick pad.
@@longandmcquadeTrue…but this is a 6 year old who may beat on them for a week or two and then never touch them again so going all in on a more pro level kit right out of the gates and having them just sit would be a huge bummer.
@@FastRedPonyCar Why not rent a kit from us then so they can try it out for a couple weeks? Rental rate on a TD-02K kit is only $40 for a whole month, or $55 for the TD-02KV like the one in this video. If they get bored of it within a week, return it and we'll refund you the difference for the time not used. But if they stick it out for the full month and want to play beyond that, then it's a good clue to make the investment. If they enjoy it, you'll know. It'll be hard to pry them away from it. -Signed, a drummer who started at age 7.
RimCLICKS are possible with a stereo pad, I tried that. I am not sure whether rimSHOTS are triggered by simultaniously hitting mesh head and rim or if that is just a function of velocity.
You can only add a 2nd crash cymbal or upgrade to a 3-zone ride cymbal. There is a double bass patch in the module to use the included pedals as a double kick. You can upgrade the kick pedal trigger to a kick pad and then add a double bass drum pedal.
Perhaps not. You can see that this kit is pretty much set up at its height maximum (at least for the drum pads - the cymbal pads could go up higher) and we're not sure of Miles' exact height, but it's no 6'3".
how many channels can you record through the usb audio transfer? I see some of the more high end kits have 28 channels which is amazing but it seems like everyone dodges this question for the td-02? Is it because it's only 2 channel recording? Just want to know so I can get the best kit for my needs of recording each drum into a separate channel, thanks.
So there is no need to buy an adapter and a midi cable for it to work? I mention that I am interested in this set of drums for the clone hero game on PC.
@@longandmcquade thank you very much, I actually spent about 8 hours looking for information on the internet because I wasn't sure if I had to buy something extra :))
It depends on the snare pad itself. The TD-02 module does support rim shots on the snare, if the pad has that zone. The PD-4 pad that comes with the TD-02K does not support rim shots or cross sticks on the snare, but the PDX-8 pad that comes with the TD-02KV kit does.
Absolutely it can! Both can actually - the TD-02K with the 3-post rack folds in half, with the middle post acting as the "hinge". The TD-02KV also folds, with each of the side "wings" folding inwards. That's typically how we store and load rental kits into customers' vehicles.
@@bacoraforever The Roland website specs the dimensions of the kit fully set up as 40" wide, 44" deep and 46" high. By folding the kit in half, you'd make the kit narrower for storage purposes, but that would not really change the depth and height. So we'd estimate the folded dimensions to be 20" wide, 44" deep and 46" high.
You sure can. We'd recommend either the Roland PM-100 ( www.long-mcquade.com/102019 ) or the Traynor DW-10 ( www.long-mcquade.com/74087 ). The output on the back of the TD-02 module is1/8", so you'd just need a 1/8" to 1/4" TRS cable ( www.long-mcquade.com/1639 ). The smaller 1/8" end plugs into the Output jack on the back of the TD-02 module, and the larger 1/4" end plugs into the Input jack on the amp.
They each have their pros and cons. The Alesis Nitro Max has all-mesh pads, each of which is larger than what comes on the Roland TD-02. This generally gives a better feel and playing experience. You get an extra cymbal pad on the Alesis, and have a more traditional kick pad tower that uses a traditional bass drum pedal, which feels more authentic and is important for developing proper foot technique. The Alesis also comes with more adjustable hardware in the rack and stands, and the Alesis module contains more preset kits and sounds than the Roland TD-02 module. All of this for about $220 less than the Roland TD-02 kit. With all those pros for the Alesis, it would seem like it's the obvious choice, but not so... All of these pros for the Alesis could be made moot by the biggest cons, which are sound, build quality, and performance. The Roland has superior sound quality, even if the number of preset kits and sounds are fewer in quantity than on the Alesis. Roland generally uses very high-quality parts and components and generally is more durable and reliable than the Alesis. And finally, while the playing experience on the Alesis pad set is better due to the larger mesh pads, Alesis generally has triggering issues like miss-triggers and crosstalk, meaning it might not pick up all your strokes, or it might erroneously trigger a cymbal sound when striking a drum pad, which can be offputting and frustrating. The Roland pads and triggering will be more sensitive and accurate. And while the Alesis has larger pads and sturdier and more adjustable hardware, it comes at an increased physical size over the Roland TD-02, so if space is a concern, the TD-02 would be the better choice because it is more compact and takes up less space than the Alesis. Ultimately the choice is yours. We'd encourage you to check out the full specs of both kits on our website, compare features and pick the best one for you. We hope this helps! Alesis Nitro Max: www.long-mcquade.com/345931 Roland TD-02KV: www.long-mcquade.com/310446
1. Press the [MENU] button. 2. Use the [] buttons to select “PAD”, and press the [ENTER] button. The PAD screen appears. 3. Strike the snare pad. You can also select the pad to configure by holding down the [ENTER] button and pressing the [] buttons. 4. Use the [] buttons to select “XStickSens”, and use the [-] [+] buttons to edit the value. Set to a value other than "OFF". Increasing this value causes the cross-stick sound to be heard even for a softer rim shot.
You can't attach a double bass pedal in it's stock configuration because there is no kick drum pad. There is a setting for a double bass kit however, where both the kick and hihat pedals are used for the bass drum, and it feels great since both pedal triggers are exactly the same. You can replace the kick pedal trigger with a KD-10 pad (or used KD-9 or KD-8 more affordably) and attach a double pedal to that.
There were different versions of the TD-1. The TD-1 is just the model number of the module itself, and came in different configurations such as the TD-1K (K standing for "kit"), the TD-1KV (same as the K but with a mesh snare), or the TD-1DMK (DMK standing for "dual mesh kit"). This TD-02KV is more like the TD-1KV with its mesh snare pad, rubber tom pads, and the 2-zone cymbal pads which means there is no bell zone for the ride cymbal. The TD-1DMK is perhaps the kit you're thinking of that has the upgraded pads and the ride bell sound. However, all TD-1 and TD-02 kits, regardless of what pad set it comes with, only have dual-zone cymbals for bow and edge. The bell sound is triggered by velocity, so you can get the bell sound by accenting on the bow of the cymbal. The TD-02 module is a definitely upgrade from the TD-1. However the TD-1DMK pad set is an upgrade from what is currently available with the TD-02 module. We anticipate that Roland will come out with a TD-02DMK kit in the future, just like they did with the TD-1.
It's 2024 and Roland drums still machine-gun like crazy, especially noticeable on the snare. Still seems like zero attention is paid to round-robin sampling? Not sure how this can be acceptable for any player these days...so painfully obvious. Would love to not have to lug around a laptop to get decent/realistic drum sounds but it still seems like the only affordable way.
Nice sound and good info! Thanks for sharing
Thanks!
can you upgrade the toms to the PDX mesh head pieces? We're looking for a starter kit for our 6 year old and eying the Roland stuff because of the upgrade options if he sticks with it. My band's drummer rocks the expensive TD27 kit and loves it and said if it were his kid, he wouldn't consider any other brand.
Yes you technically can, in the sense that both pads use a standard 1/4" cable to trigger the module. But we wouldn't recommend it. They each use a different mounting system, so it would not be an easy swap. Additional hardware would be required. Also, the PDX pads are not exactly inexpensive when purchased as separate components afterwards. Each PDX-8 is $339CAD, so for 3 of them to upgrade the 3 tom pads on the TD-02 would be over $1000. So for $699 for the TD-02 kit, plus $1000 for the PDX pad upgrades for a total of $1700+ you could just get a TD-07KV right from the get-go for $1499. And it comes with a much better module, better hardware, all mesh pads, bigger cymbal pads and a better kick pad.
@@longandmcquadeTrue…but this is a 6 year old who may beat on them for a week or two and then never touch them again so going all in on a more pro level kit right out of the gates and having them just sit would be a huge bummer.
@@FastRedPonyCar Why not rent a kit from us then so they can try it out for a couple weeks? Rental rate on a TD-02K kit is only $40 for a whole month, or $55 for the TD-02KV like the one in this video. If they get bored of it within a week, return it and we'll refund you the difference for the time not used. But if they stick it out for the full month and want to play beyond that, then it's a good clue to make the investment. If they enjoy it, you'll know. It'll be hard to pry them away from it.
-Signed, a drummer who started at age 7.
Are rimclicks and rimshots possible on the snare pad? Thank you!
That would be good to know.. thats also what i am looking for...
RimCLICKS are possible with a stereo pad, I tried that. I am not sure whether rimSHOTS are triggered by simultaniously hitting mesh head and rim or if that is just a function of velocity.
Great job thanks
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Is it possible adding extra pads or having double bass drum pedal connection? 😅
You can only add a 2nd crash cymbal or upgrade to a 3-zone ride cymbal. There is a double bass patch in the module to use the included pedals as a double kick. You can upgrade the kick pedal trigger to a kick pad and then add a double bass drum pedal.
Is this kit suitable for taller players around 6,2-6,3? Great video.
Perhaps not. You can see that this kit is pretty much set up at its height maximum (at least for the drum pads - the cymbal pads could go up higher) and we're not sure of Miles' exact height, but it's no 6'3".
What amp are you playing through? This sounds great!
No amp, just going straight from the module into the recorder. The kit DOES sound great!
how many channels can you record through the usb audio transfer? I see some of the more high end kits have 28 channels which is amazing but it seems like everyone dodges this question for the td-02? Is it because it's only 2 channel recording? Just want to know so I can get the best kit for my needs of recording each drum into a separate channel, thanks.
The TD-02 records stereo audio. If you want more control over individual sounds, record via MIDI and use any drum sample VST.
So there is no need to buy an adapter and a midi cable for it to work? I mention that I am interested in this set of drums for the clone hero game on PC.
Correct, Miles explains this at 5:50. You can record or send MIDI straight from the USB port on the module. No MIDI cables or adapters needed.
@@longandmcquade thank you very much, I actually spent about 8 hours looking for information on the internet because I wasn't sure if I had to buy something extra :))
I tried but can't feel the rim shoot on snare, is it available feature?
It depends on the snare pad itself. The TD-02 module does support rim shots on the snare, if the pad has that zone. The PD-4 pad that comes with the TD-02K does not support rim shots or cross sticks on the snare, but the PDX-8 pad that comes with the TD-02KV kit does.
Can you create your own user kit choosing a snare, different toms.. etc
No, not with the TD-02 module. You'd need to upgrade to the TD-07 for that feature.
Do you know if I need to paste pedals in the floor or carpet? Thanks
No, please do not glue anything down. The pedals have rubber feet that give traction for smooth floors and will dig into carpet.
Can you upgrade the snare on the TD-02 K less expensive model
Yes you can. You can swap/upgrade nearly any pad on nearly any Roland module. As long as they have the same connector (ie 1/4" vs USB).
Can i use hi hat pedal as bass drum pedal. So i can play double bass drum
Yes.
Nice, looking to get the TD-02K from you guys as my first drum kit. Can it be folded to store it on a corner like other Roland drum kits?
Absolutely it can! Both can actually - the TD-02K with the 3-post rack folds in half, with the middle post acting as the "hinge". The TD-02KV also folds, with each of the side "wings" folding inwards. That's typically how we store and load rental kits into customers' vehicles.
@@longandmcquade awesome that's good to know! do you know by any chance the approximate size when folded? thanks
@@bacoraforever The Roland website specs the dimensions of the kit fully set up as 40" wide, 44" deep and 46" high. By folding the kit in half, you'd make the kit narrower for storage purposes, but that would not really change the depth and height. So we'd estimate the folded dimensions to be 20" wide, 44" deep and 46" high.
Can I upgrade this kit by adding another kik to play doubble kik?
The included kick pad is wide enough to accomodate a double kick pedal.
Is it good for flat
How to do Sound Balancing and tune Toms?
Those features are not available on the TD-02 module. You'd need to step up to at least the TD-17 module for those kinds of features.
Thanks For support 👍😀
Hello does this kit work with the Irig?
Yes, although it already has a USB audio interface built-in.
Can you plug this into an amp, if so how?
You sure can. We'd recommend either the Roland PM-100 ( www.long-mcquade.com/102019 ) or the Traynor DW-10 ( www.long-mcquade.com/74087 ). The output on the back of the TD-02 module is1/8", so you'd just need a 1/8" to 1/4" TRS cable ( www.long-mcquade.com/1639 ). The smaller 1/8" end plugs into the Output jack on the back of the TD-02 module, and the larger 1/4" end plugs into the Input jack on the amp.
Another resaon why to choose Roland :)
Which is better alesis nitro max or Roland td 02 v
They each have their pros and cons.
The Alesis Nitro Max has all-mesh pads, each of which is larger than what comes on the Roland TD-02. This generally gives a better feel and playing experience. You get an extra cymbal pad on the Alesis, and have a more traditional kick pad tower that uses a traditional bass drum pedal, which feels more authentic and is important for developing proper foot technique. The Alesis also comes with more adjustable hardware in the rack and stands, and the Alesis module contains more preset kits and sounds than the Roland TD-02 module. All of this for about $220 less than the Roland TD-02 kit. With all those pros for the Alesis, it would seem like it's the obvious choice, but not so...
All of these pros for the Alesis could be made moot by the biggest cons, which are sound, build quality, and performance. The Roland has superior sound quality, even if the number of preset kits and sounds are fewer in quantity than on the Alesis. Roland generally uses very high-quality parts and components and generally is more durable and reliable than the Alesis. And finally, while the playing experience on the Alesis pad set is better due to the larger mesh pads, Alesis generally has triggering issues like miss-triggers and crosstalk, meaning it might not pick up all your strokes, or it might erroneously trigger a cymbal sound when striking a drum pad, which can be offputting and frustrating. The Roland pads and triggering will be more sensitive and accurate. And while the Alesis has larger pads and sturdier and more adjustable hardware, it comes at an increased physical size over the Roland TD-02, so if space is a concern, the TD-02 would be the better choice because it is more compact and takes up less space than the Alesis.
Ultimately the choice is yours. We'd encourage you to check out the full specs of both kits on our website, compare features and pick the best one for you. We hope this helps!
Alesis Nitro Max: www.long-mcquade.com/345931
Roland TD-02KV: www.long-mcquade.com/310446
How about Cross stick
1. Press the [MENU] button.
2. Use the [] buttons to select “PAD”, and press the [ENTER] button. The PAD screen appears.
3. Strike the snare pad. You can also select the pad to configure by holding down the [ENTER] button and pressing the [] buttons.
4. Use the [] buttons to select “XStickSens”, and use the [-] [+] buttons to edit the value. Set to a value other than "OFF". Increasing this value causes the cross-stick sound to be heard even for a softer rim shot.
@@longandmcquade thank you very much
1 Negative thing is we can attach DUBLE BASS PADDLE
You can't attach a double bass pedal in it's stock configuration because there is no kick drum pad. There is a setting for a double bass kit however, where both the kick and hihat pedals are used for the bass drum, and it feels great since both pedal triggers are exactly the same. You can replace the kick pedal trigger with a KD-10 pad (or used KD-9 or KD-8 more affordably) and attach a double pedal to that.
The td-1 had a ride bell sound, so the td-02 is just worse and doesn't have it?!?
There were different versions of the TD-1. The TD-1 is just the model number of the module itself, and came in different configurations such as the TD-1K (K standing for "kit"), the TD-1KV (same as the K but with a mesh snare), or the TD-1DMK (DMK standing for "dual mesh kit"). This TD-02KV is more like the TD-1KV with its mesh snare pad, rubber tom pads, and the 2-zone cymbal pads which means there is no bell zone for the ride cymbal. The TD-1DMK is perhaps the kit you're thinking of that has the upgraded pads and the ride bell sound. However, all TD-1 and TD-02 kits, regardless of what pad set it comes with, only have dual-zone cymbals for bow and edge. The bell sound is triggered by velocity, so you can get the bell sound by accenting on the bow of the cymbal.
The TD-02 module is a definitely upgrade from the TD-1. However the TD-1DMK pad set is an upgrade from what is currently available with the TD-02 module. We anticipate that Roland will come out with a TD-02DMK kit in the future, just like they did with the TD-1.
Does the Hi Hat pedal can provide an open sound by “smashing” the foot or something ?
@@lesha313 Yes, that's called a foot splash and it is supported!
It's 2024 and Roland drums still machine-gun like crazy, especially noticeable on the snare. Still seems like zero attention is paid to round-robin sampling? Not sure how this can be acceptable for any player these days...so painfully obvious. Would love to not have to lug around a laptop to get decent/realistic drum sounds but it still seems like the only affordable way.
It's their cheapest model, what do you expect? And compared to other brands in this price range this is superior by miles
@@woutervanwijk4369what about alesis nitro max kit
8:26 can you upgrade the bass drum pedal to a V8 bass drum pad?
Yes you can!